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Earnings Call: Q2 2022

Aug 3, 2022

Operator

Greetings, and welcome to the Ashford Hospitality Trust second quarter 2022 results conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. If anyone should require operator assistance during the conference, please press star zero on your telephone keypad. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the call over to Jordan Jennings, Investor Relations for Ashford Hospitality Trust. Thank you. You may begin.

Jordan Jennings
Director of Investor Relations, Ashford Hospitality Trust

Good day, everyone, and welcome to today's conference call to review the results for Ashford Hospitality Trust for the second quarter of 2022 and to update you on recent developments. On the call today will be Rob Hays, President and Chief Executive Officer, Deric Eubanks, Chief Financial Officer, and Chris Nixon, Senior Vice President and Head of Asset Management. The results, as well as notice of accessibility of this conference call on a listen-only basis over the Internet, were distributed yesterday afternoon in a press release. At this time, let me remind you that certain statements and assumptions in this conference call contain or are based upon forward-looking information and are being made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of the Federal Securities Regulation.

Such forward-looking statements are subject to numerous assumptions, uncertainties, and known or unknown risks, which could cause actual results to differ materially from those anticipated. These factors are more fully discussed in the company's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. The forward-looking statements included in this conference call are only made as of the date of this call, and the company is not obligated to publicly update or revise them.

In addition, certain terms used in this call are non-GAAP financial measures, reconciliations of which are provided in the company's earnings release and accompanying tables or schedules, which have been filed on Form 8-K with the SEC on August 2, 2022, and may also be accessed through the company's website at www.ahtreit.com. Each listener is encouraged to view those reconciliations provided in the earnings release together with all information provided in the release.

Also, unless otherwise stated, all reported results discussed in this call compare the second quarter of 2022 with the second quarter of 2021. I will now turn the call over to Rob Hays. Please go ahead, sir.

Rob Hays
President and CEO, Ashford Hospitality Trust

Good morning. Welcome to our call. I'll start by providing an overview of the current industry environment and how Ashford Trust has been navigating it. After that, Derek will review our financial results, and then Chris will provide an operational update on our portfolio. I'd like to highlight some of our recent accomplishments and the main themes for the call. First, we saw sequential RevPAR improvement each month as we moved through the second quarter and expect continued strength through the third quarter.

Additionally, we're excited that June's RevPAR performance was the best month we've had versus 2019 thus far. Second, our liquidity and cash position continue to be strong. We ended the quarter with approximately $615 million of net working capital, which equates to approximately $17 per diluted share and is an increase from where we ended the first quarter.

With yesterday's closing stock price of $9.23, we believe we are trading at a meaningful discount to both our net asset value per share and our net working capital per share. I'm also pleased to report that we generated approximately $23 million of positive cash flow in the quarter after CapEx and our preferred dividends. Third, we have lowered our leverage and improved our overall financial position. Since its peak in 2020, we have lowered our net debt plus preferred equity by over $1 billion, equating to a decrease in our leverage ratio, defined as net debt plus preferred equity to gross assets, by approximately 12 percentage points. Fourth, in the last quarter, we filed a registration statement with the SEC for a future offering of non-traded preferred equity.

Importantly, this announcement demonstrates our strategic pivot from defense to offense, as we believe this offering will provide an attractive cost of capital, allow us to accretively grow our portfolio over time, subject to future market conditions. We believe access to this attractive growth capital is a significant competitive advantage, particularly given the fact that lodging REITs are trading at material discounts to their net asset values. We are now effective on this offering and expect to commence issuing limited amounts of the non-traded preferred equity beginning in the third quarter of 2022.

We are optimistic about the long-term outlook for the company, and by taking strategic actions to strengthen our balance sheet, we feel well-positioned to capitalize on opportunities we are seeing in the hospitality industry. Having said that, we have refrained from raising any common equity capital this year.

Given the softness of our stock price and our current circumstances, we don't currently anticipate raising common equity capital at these levels. To the extent we're successful with our non-traded preferred capital raise, our preference would be to use that capital for future growth. We expect several of our loan pools to remain in cash traps over the next 12-24 months. However, we're pleased to note that several of our hotels, including the Renaissance Nashville and Hilton Back Bay, have recently come out of their respective cash traps. We believe several other of our loans may be successful in exiting their traps in 2022, including KEYS pools D and E and our Crystal Gateway Marriott. For 2022, our CapEx spending is higher than the previous two years but still well below our historical run rate for CapEx.

CapEx spend during the second quarter was approximately $20.1 million. Additionally, while we're monitoring risks related to the current high inflation environment and the potential impacts of our portfolio, CBRE recently issued an industry report that highlights the benefits of hotels as a good hedge against inflation. Their model cited that due to the uniquely short lease periods measured in days rather than months or years, hotels have been seen as an effective hedge against inflation, given hotels can adjust prices rapidly to account for any short-term variations in inflation.

In fact, the report highlighted that historically, during periods of high inflation, hotels have shown their ability to grow profits above the inflation rate. We are seeing this play out during the current high inflation period we are experiencing in the industry. Let me now turn to the operating environment, performance at our hotels.

The lodging industry is clearly showing signs of improvement. RevPAR for all hotels in the portfolio increased approximately 73% for the second quarter versus last year. This RevPAR result equates to a decrease of approximately 6% versus the second quarter of 2019. June was the best performing month of the second quarter, along with being the best month we've had versus 2019 thus far, with RevPAR down only 4% versus 2019. Preliminary numbers from July are consistent with what we saw in June across the portfolio, with RevPAR for the month down about 5% versus 2019. Looking ahead to the remainder of 2022, we believe our geographically diverse portfolio, consisting of high-quality U.S. assets with best-in-class brands and management companies, is well-positioned to capitalize on the strong demand we're seeing across leisure, business, and group.

We also believe that our relationship with our affiliated property manager, Remington, really sets us apart. We believe Remington has been able to consistently manage costs and optimize revenues aggressively, enabling us to outperform the industry from an operations standpoint for many years. Additionally, capital recycling remains an important component of our strategy, and we are pursuing opportunities to sell certain non-core assets. We have one full-service asset under contract to sell with closing most likely in the third quarter, and another full-service asset currently marketed for sale. We expect any net proceeds from these sales will go towards paying down our strategic financing. Whenever we sell assets, our approach takes into consideration many factors such as impact on EBITDA, leverage, future CapEx spending, potential market growth, and RevPAR, among others.

Turning to investor relations, we continue to get on the road in order to meet with investors, communicate our strategy, and explain what we believe to be an attractive investment opportunity in Ashford Hospitality Trust. We've attended numerous industry and Wall Street conferences this year, which have led to nearly 300 investor meetings year to date. We have several more conferences coming up in the second half of the year and look forward to speaking with many of you during those events. We believe we have the right plan in place to move forward and maximize value at Ashford Hospitality Trust. This plan includes continuing to grow liquidity across the company, optimizing the operating performance of our assets, improving our balance sheet over time, and looking for opportunities to invest and grow our portfolio.

We have a track record of success when it comes to property acquisitions, joint ventures, and asset sales, and we expect they will continue to be part of our plans moving forward. We ended 2022 second quarter with a substantial amount of cash in our balance sheet, and with the launch of our non-traded preferred stock offering, we are excited about the opportunities we see in front of us. Now I'll turn the call over to Deric to review our second quarter financial performance.

Deric Eubanks
CFO, Ashford Hospitality Trust

Thanks, Rob. For the second quarter of 2022, we reported a net loss attributable to common stockholders of $9.3 million or $0.27 per diluted share. For the quarter, we reported AFFO per diluted share of $1.23, which represents a growth rate of 2,975% over the prior year quarter. Adjusted EBITDAre totaled $96.4 million for the quarter, which reflected a growth rate of 207% over the prior year quarter. This is the company's best quarter for adjusted EBITDAre since the third quarter of 2019. At the end of the second quarter, we had $3.9 billion of loans with a blended average interest rate of 5.6%. Our loans were approximately 8% fixed-rate and 92% floating-rate.

We utilize floating rate debt as we believe it is a better hedge of our operating cash flows. However, we do utilize caps on those floating rate loans to protect the company against significant interest rate increases. We currently have one loan with a final maturity in 2022, which is currently under contract for sale and have approximately $98 million in final loan maturities in 2023. Some of the company's loans will be subject to extension tests, and with our significant cash balance, we believe we are well prepared to meet any potential loan pay downs required to meet those tests. Our hotel loans are all non-recourse, and currently 85% of our hotels are in cash traps, which is down from 90% last quarter. A cash trap means that we are currently unable to utilize property-level cash for corporate-related purposes.

As the properties recover and meet the various debt yield or coverage thresholds, we will be able to utilize that cash freely at corporate. Importantly, subsequent to the end of the quarter, the Renaissance Nashville and Westin Princeton loan came out of its cash trap, and approximately $15 million of cash that had been trapped was released to corporate. We ended the quarter with cash and cash equivalents of $538.4 million and restricted cash of $126.6 million. The vast majority of that restricted cash is comprised of lender and manager-held reserve accounts. At the end of the quarter, we also had $24.7 million in due from third-party hotel managers. This primarily represents cash held by one of our property managers, which is also available to fund hotel operating costs.

We ended the quarter with net working capital of approximately $615 million, which is an increase from $609 million last quarter. As Rob mentioned, I think it's also important to point out that this net working capital amount of $615 million equates to approximately $17 per share. This compares to our closing stock price from yesterday of $9.23, which is an approximate 46% discount to our net working capital per share. Our net working capital reflects value over and above the value of our hotels. As such, we believe that our current stock price does not reflect the intrinsic value of our high-quality hotel portfolio. As of June 30, 2022, our portfolio consisted of 100 hotels with 22,313 net rooms.

Our share count currently stands at approximately 36.2 million fully diluted shares outstanding, which is comprised of 34.5 million shares of common stock and 1.7 million OP units. In the second quarter, our weighted average fully diluted share count used to calculate AFFO per share included approximately 1.7 million common shares associated with the exit fee on the strategic financing we completed in January 2021. Assuming yesterday's closing stock price, our equity market cap is approximately $334 million. While we are currently paying our preferred dividends quarterly, we do not anticipate reinstating a common dividend for some time. Over the past several months, we have taken numerous steps to strengthen our financial position and improve our liquidity, and we are pleased with the progress that we've made. Our cash balance is solid.

We have an attractive maturity schedule. Our non-traded preferred security offering is effective, and we believe the company is well-positioned to benefit from the improving trends we are seeing in the lodging industry. This concludes our financial review, and I would now like to turn it over to Chris to discuss our asset management activities for the quarter.

Chris Nixon
SVP and Head of Asset Management, Ashford Hospitality Trust

Thank you, Deric. We are extremely proud of the work that our asset management team has done to drive operating results. Comparable RevPAR for our portfolio increased by 73% during the second quarter relative to the same time period in 2021. For the second quarter, our portfolio has recovered 94% of 2019 comparable RevPAR. We continue to be encouraged by the recovery signs we are seeing within the group segment across our portfolio. During the second quarter, our portfolio recovered 92% of group room nights relative to 2019. Additionally, our full-year group pace compared to 2019 has improved 6% quarter-over-quarter. I would like to spend some time highlighting the success that we are seeing in some of our assets.

Renaissance Nashville Hotel had a record-breaking month in June with its highest revenue month in the history of the hotel at $8.1 million in total hotel revenue. That represents a 3% increase over the best month, which was October 2021. It also had a strong second quarter, which saw total hotel revenue exceeding comparable 2019 by 9%. Group rooms accounted for nearly 58% of all sold room nights during the second quarter, which is a 95% recovery in group room nights sold when compared to 2019. With this portion of our business largely recovered at this hotel, it has allowed us to become more aggressive with transient rate strategies. We have recently increased the rate premium for club-level rooms and suites. In addition, the hotel has closed out many discounted categories to drive retail rate efficiency.

These initiatives resulted in second quarter transient ADR exceeding comparable 2019 by 12%. There are no signs that these dynamics are slowing down, and we are excited to see the future performance of this hotel. The Hyatt Regency Coral Gables also broke a second-quarter record, with hotel EBITDA coming in at $2.4 million. That is a 28% premium to the second quarter of 2018, which was a previous record. The majority of this success was a result of room rate, which was up nearly 30% during the second quarter relative to comparable 2019. The hotel was able to bring back a large long-term piece of group business, which helped propel the hotel to an 11% growth in group room revenue during the second quarter relative to 2019.

With this core piece of business back in place, the hotel was able to be more selective with remaining groups, which drove the overall group room rate during the second quarter by 15% over the same time period in 2019. Lastly, I would like to highlight the success of Lakeway Resort and Spa in Austin, which also broke a record with hotel EBITDA nearing $2.5 million during the second quarter. The achievement is a 39% improvement over the next best quarter, which is remarkable. The hotel had been incredibly successful in locking in several groups, which resulted in the hotel exceeding sold group room nights by 11% during the second quarter relative to comparable 2019. Two of these groups signed multi-year contracts with the property.

These organizations contributed to our ability to push rates, which outperformed during the second quarter by 36% compared to the same period in 2019. With these contracts already secured for future years, the hotel will be able to replicate the successful rate strategy and capitalize on additional demand. Moving on to capital expenditures. We've noted in previous calls how we were proactive prior to the pandemic in renovating our hotels to renew our portfolio. That commitment has now resulted in a competitive and strategic advantage as demand continues to accelerate. We currently anticipate strategically deploying approximately $110-$120 million in capital expenditures in 2022. We recently completed the guest room renovation at Fremont Marriott Silicon Valley and will begin a meeting space renovation at Hyatt Regency Coral Gables and a lobby and bar renovation at The Ritz-Carlton, Atlanta.

Before moving on to Q&A, I would like to reiterate how optimistic we are about the recovery of our portfolio and the industry as a whole. Every month this year through the second quarter, we have seen hotel EBITDA in our portfolio grow over the previous month, with June's hotel EBITDA nearly 10 times larger than that of January. Some of the hotels have already outpaced their 2019 performance. During the first quarter of this year, 11% of our hotels were exceeding their comparable 2019 hotel EBITDA. Now, during the second quarter, 25% of our hotels are exceeding comparable 2019 hotel EBITDA. This trend is accelerating, with 31% of our assets exceeding their June 2019 comparable. As we look forward, we are seeing encouraging signs in our group lead volume for a number of markets.

With these positive indicators, we believe our portfolio is well-positioned to capitalize on the industry's continuing recovery. That concludes our prepared remarks, and we will now open up the call for Q&A.

Operator

Thank you. We will now be conducting a question-and-answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue.

You may press star two if you would like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star key. One moment please while we poll for your questions. Our first question comes from the line of Tyler Batory with Oppenheimer. Please proceed with your questions.

Tyler Batory
Executive Director and Senior Analyst, Oppenheimer

Good morning. Thanks for taking my questions. First one for me, more open-ended in terms of broad trends. When you look at July down 5% with 2019, can you discuss more detail on what you saw in the business in July? Then in terms of the recovery trajectory, obviously lots of momentum here. Is it possible Q3 compared with 2019 is better sequentially than Q2? And kind of how are you thinking about your commentary with revenue compared with 2019 coming back in 2023? Is it possible that you know, maybe we see that a little bit earlier?

Chris Nixon
SVP and Head of Asset Management, Ashford Hospitality Trust

Yeah, thanks for your question, Tyler. This is Chris. I'll take that. We are seeing favorable signs and trends continue into Q3. There is nothing in the data that we're seeing that indicates any kind of a pullback, and our preliminary forecasts for Q3 do show continued improvement over 2019 relative to Q2. July performed, you know, very consistent with what we saw in June. Broadly in terms of the segment trends we're seeing, the mix of business is very similar to what we saw pre-pandemic, with some slight adjustments. You know, group is 25% of our mix now, and it was pre-pandemic. Contract has been relatively similar. We're seeing an increase in leisure as a percentage of our mix and a decrease in corporate.

Leisure's up to about 48% of our business mix compared to 42% pre-pandemic, and corporate's moved from about 29% down to 23%. We are seeing very encouraging trends from the corporate segment, and we believe those are gonna continue as we look ahead. There's been steady recovery out of that segment. To kind of paint that picture, if we look back to January, corporate was at 37% of 2019 levels for our portfolio. In June, it was up to 76% recovery. We're very encouraged by that continued momentum. We're also seeing some interesting things. You know, the corporate customer has had a longer length of stay than they've ever had across our portfolio.

We're seeing, you know, a lot of our corporate travelers staying through shoulder nights and into weekends. Sunday night occupancy in our portfolio for Q2 actually exceeded 2019 levels, which is great. We expect, you know, these trends to continue into Q3, and we're not seeing any sign of a pullback.

Tyler Batory
Executive Director and Senior Analyst, Oppenheimer

Okay. Great. Appreciate that commentary. Follow-up question, you know, probably for Rob, just in terms of the asset sales here, you know, any more detail you can provide on, you know, why you think now is the right time to pull the trigger on this? You know, why you selected these hotels specifically? You know, any numbers in terms of potential proceeds as well?

Rob Hays
President and CEO, Ashford Hospitality Trust

Sure. A few different things. I mean, I think it's something where we've, you know, I don't know if there's any one moment where you can kind of do it all at once, right? I think our strategy is gonna be to continue to kind of layer these on over time. The reason that these assets are currently on the market or are for sale was that they are kind of lower RevPAR full-service assets, you know, that potentially had either, you know, CapEx needs that we maybe don't think were the best use of proceeds or weren't longer term hold markets for us.

I think that'll be pretty consistent with the assets that you'll see us sell will probably fall either into the bucket of lower RevPAR full-service assets just because when we look over the life of those assets, we find that they just don't generate as much EBITDA just because with the lower RevPAR, you just don't generate as much cash flow, but you still have to do the same amount of CapEx many times. I think we're trying to move some of those off our books. Then at some point in time, you'll see us potentially sell off some of our select-service assets that aren't long-term holds. But again, that'll be kind of selected, you know.

In terms of what we think the proceeds, net proceeds may be for kind of at least these two assets, it's probably in the neighborhood of, I'd say probably $15 million-$20 million. Is kind of a best guess right now. It could be a little bit higher than that, but somewhere in that range. Just given our current strategic financing, you know, those proceeds will, you know, need to primarily go to pay down that debt. That would be our most likely use of proceeds for that.

Tyler Batory
Executive Director and Senior Analyst, Oppenheimer

Okay. Very helpful. That's all for me. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is coming from the line of Chris Woronka with Deutsche Bank. Please proceed with your questions.

Chris Woronka
Senior Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Hey, good morning, guys. First one might be for Rob. Rob, talked a little bit about the non-pref, the opportunity to go back on offense at some point. I mean, not looking for super specifics here, but I mean, how would you directionally, you know, characterize the kind of stuff you're gonna look at? Is it gonna be full service? Are you gonna tilt towards resorts or urban or some of the same markets you've looked at in the past? Or are you trying to get a little bit more broad?

Rob Hays
President and CEO, Ashford Hospitality Trust

That's a good question, Chris. The answer is opportunistic. You know, I think when we're looking at some of the theses that we wanna invest in, you know, some of them are opportunities that we're seeing for repositioning. Some of the assets that we're looking at are, you know, assets that we think are kind of under-branded or independent that maybe could use a brand from a distribution standpoint. I think we're also looking potentially at markets where we already have a number of markets we like, where we already have a little bit of a position just because it really allows us to operate those with a lot of efficiencies.

I also think that we're also seeing opportunities in some of these northern, more northern and urban markets that are a little bit out of favor because you can get more attractive pricing on them relatively than you can in some of these resorts, and southern markets that we're seeing right now. Because we are believers in the recovery of business travel and the recovery of group. I think given that there's just some out-of-favor markets kind of in the northern half of the U.S., I think there's some interesting opportunities that are gonna be coming up over the next, you know, few years in that. Not particularly specific because a lot of it's kind of opportunistic, but I think there's not necessarily a consistent theme in the stuff that we're looking at today.

They just all have kind of unique opportunities in their own right.

Chris Woronka
Senior Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Okay. Thanks Rob. Fair enough. This one might be for Chris. Thinking about brand standards now that we're back to pretty much have most of our corporate travel back, group travel back, do you think the brands have landed on a final resting point in terms of service delivery on housekeeping and some of the food and beverage options?

Chris Nixon
SVP and Head of Asset Management, Ashford Hospitality Trust

I don't know that it's that they've landed on it and that it's fixed. I mean, we've got a great relationship with the brand. It continues to be fluid. We've got a number of vehicles where we provide heavy input and our feedback. I can tell you that, you know, in addition to the operational efficiencies that our management partners have found, we're very thoughtful about how we deploy capital. We're running more efficient operations, but our guest service scores are increasing over prior years and also over 2019. You know, that tells us that we're being very thoughtful in terms of the efficiencies we're driving and how we're deploying capital to be very mindful of the guest experience.

I don't think they're firm and final. There continue to be changes. Marriott adjusted their housekeeping policy just in July, and you know, we're hoping that the other players don't follow suit. I don't think anything is final yet.

Chris Woronka
Senior Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Okay. Very helpful. Thanks guys.

Operator

Thank you. As a reminder, if you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. Our next question has come from the line of Bryan Maher with B. Riley. Please proceed with your questions.

Bryan Maher
Senior Analyst and Managing Director, B. Riley

Good morning. Just first a point of clarity. I think you mentioned $15 million-$20 million proceeds for a hotel sale. Was that for the one hotel that's currently under contract that's, I guess, looking to close in the third quarter?

Rob Hays
President and CEO, Ashford Hospitality Trust

That would be both to the extent that we end up selling the other one that is currently on the market. It's, you know, the combination of those two.

Bryan Maher
Senior Analyst and Managing Director, B. Riley

Okay, thanks for that. If memory serves me a few years back, five, six years ago, you know, there was plans or consideration to really lighten up on the select service and focus on full service. You know, kind of like what you just talked about, you know, maybe stuff that needs some help and some decent markets that you think are gonna grow. Is that still the case? I mean, would you anticipate lightening up on select service or is there a thought to really keep that large chunk of that portfolio?

Rob Hays
President and CEO, Ashford Hospitality Trust

Yeah, I think over time the goal would be to lighten up on it. I think the question is what's the right way to do it? You know, is there a way that makes you know, broader, more strategic sense for the portfolio? I do think there are some pools and some assets that are select service that I think we are probably going to consider for sale in the next 6-12 months. On a net basis, you'll see us continue to lighten up on our select service.

Just given where the debt markets and transaction markets are, it seems unlikely that there's a trade to do kind of all of the select service or a huge part of select service. Realistically, we have some of a decent amount of select service that's crossed in debt pools, both in our Highland portfolio and in our what's called our MS-17 loans, where we've got full service and select service crossed. At a minimum, to be able to extract that and do something with it'll. You know, we'll need to refinance that at some point in time in the next two years. I think as opposed to anything dramatic, I think you will see us kind of lighten up on it over time opportunistically.

Bryan Maher
Senior Analyst and Managing Director, B. Riley

Yeah. That's a good segue into my next question. You know, maybe for Deric, I guess. You know, what are the mechanics of actually using your large cash position to extract assets from these debt pools to, you know, subsequently monetize them at the right time? How do you go about doing that?

Deric Eubanks
CFO, Ashford Hospitality Trust

Well, Bryan, we've got the flexibility to do that. I think, you know, from our perspective, holding that cash balance has been strategic for us because we know we've got some extension tests coming up, on a lot of our loans in 2023, and we're unsure what those extension tests might look like.

Because those are mostly a trailing debt yield at the time of the extension. Depending on the ramp up of the recovery, the potential pay down requirements could be nothing and could be significant. We've wanted to hold that cash on hand for that flexibility and for that. I think in a perfect world, we'd just line up the refinancing of those pools at their maturity dates or close to their maturity dates with any sort of releases or changes in the makeup of those pools and portfolios that we'd wanna make and do it at the time of the refinancings.

We've contemplated go ahead and do some refinancings now, to get in front of some of those extension tests, but the debt markets at the moment are not real attractive. While at the same time, the fundamentals continue to be very attractive. We've opted to just sit and wait, and then hope that the market improves.

Rob Hays
President and CEO, Ashford Hospitality Trust

Bryan, I'd also say that, you know, we've approached the. There's a handful of assets that, again, I think fall in this category of, you know, non-core, non-long term hold, you know, lower RevPAR full service assets that are crossed in pools. Typically, the mechanism to extract those is you're paying about 115% of the allocated loan balance for that asset. But normally, there's other tests involved, meaning that your debt yield, you know, isn't any lower, your debt yield's above where it was when you originated the loan, et cetera, et cetera. Realistically right now, most of the loans don't meet those tests, and so you actually would have to get some sort of waiver or agreement from your lenders in order to achieve that.

The issue is just what are they, you know, what do they want? You know, do they want an additional pay down? Do they want a fee? You know, so right now, as Deric said, you know, we're trying to be, you know, cautious and prudent with our cash given what's going on in the debt markets. But to the extent that, you know, we can find a solution with lenders, then there are ways, hopefully, to maybe extract some of those assets prior to refinancings.

Bryan Maher
Senior Analyst and Managing Director, B. Riley

Okay. Just last, maybe kind of a housekeeping item. You know, I think suffice it to say, you probably pay down the Oaktree financing, when it gets closer to that two-year mark. That's something we should be modeling for kinda late 4Q or early 1Q 2023?

Rob Hays
President and CEO, Ashford Hospitality Trust

That's a good question. You know, as we sit here, you know, today, I mean, I would love to be able to pay it off in January when the, you know, when it's kind of the two-year make whole burns off in the middle of June. I mean, middle of January. My mistake. But, it's really dependent upon the next six months, right? I mean, if the recovery continues like we're hoping and, you know, we're not kicked into a nasty recession, then I think it's a reasonable assumption to be made that that we can pay it off, you know, maybe sometime around January. But, you know, it's still TBD. You know, while I, you know, would like to send it.

I'd like to pay it off, it also is a substantial amount of cash to send $200 million off your balance sheet. We just wanna make sure it's the right time to do it and so it'll just be dependent upon how this recovery looks the next few months.

Bryan Maher
Senior Analyst and Managing Director, B. Riley

Thank you.

Rob Hays
President and CEO, Ashford Hospitality Trust

You got it, Bryan.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is coming from the line of Michael Bellisario with Baird. Please proceed with your questions.

Michael Bellisario
Senior Research Analyst, Baird

Thanks. Good morning, everyone.

Deric Eubanks
CFO, Ashford Hospitality Trust

Good morning, Michael.

Michael Bellisario
Senior Research Analyst, Baird

Just a couple follow-ups there, focused on the balance sheet both for Deric, I think. How much cash is actually trapped at quarter end? I know you said I think you have 15% of your hotels are no longer in cash traps, but maybe directionally or, you know, or if you could put numbers around it, how much of the value of your assets or cash flow is actually no longer in a cash trap today?

Deric Eubanks
CFO, Ashford Hospitality Trust

Yeah, Michael. At the end of the quarter, we had about $19 million that was trapped, and that was B in our restricted cash in our balance sheet. About, like I said, $13 million of that amount has since been released. There's really only about $6 million-$7 million that's left in the trap as of the end of the second quarter. In terms of the assets, the percent of assets you're right, it's 85% of the assets. In terms of the value, you know, we haven't really done that math, but I can tell you from a sort of percent of run rate EBITDA, it's actually pretty close. It's just slightly less than that. We're gonna say it's 85% of the assets.

Maybe that represents, you know, 80%-83% of our EBITDA because some of our larger assets are out of those traps. It's slightly less. You know, as Rob mentioned, we do anticipate that, you know, maybe another 10-13 hotels or so by the end of the year will be coming out of the traps as well. You know, really, it's really only been the last quarter or so when those hotels were generating enough excess cash to actually have any cash go into the trap. I would anticipate that from here, if trends continue like we've been seeing, that we would see more and more cash start to accumulate in those traps.

It's also important to note that any trap cash would also be available for any extension test if we have loans that have extension tests. At the time of those extension tests, any additional cash that's sitting in restricted cash that's in a trap would also be available for those bump pay downs as needed.

Michael Bellisario
Senior Research Analyst, Baird

Gotcha. That's helpful. Just one more on the, you know, bigger picture on the debt side. Can you maybe provide some perspective on pricing changes in LTVs, what you've seen in the mortgage market, in the changes that occurred over the last 90 days or so?

Deric Eubanks
CFO, Ashford Hospitality Trust

Yeah. I mean, it's clearly deteriorated. I mean, look, we haven't really been in the market to do anything. Market has pulled back when, you know, I think from an LTV standpoint, you can probably still get relatively high LTVs, but it's gonna cost you. You know, I would say spreads probably widened 100 basis points or so from, you know, maybe 150 basis points from where they were three, four months ago. You know, that's not typically what we've seen when the index rates have been going up. Typically, when we've seen the Fed raise rates, you've seen credit spreads come down.

This is a very unique time in this business, at least in my career, in terms of the Fed raising rates, and we're also seeing credit spreads go up when, you know, in reality, from a risk perspective, the fundamentals continue to be very attractive. It feels very technical. It doesn't feel like there's a reason for the credit spreads to be going up because just from a real risk standpoint, like I said, the fundamentals continue to get better. We're optimistic that it's a short-term phenomenon, and the market will improve here at some point in the near future.

Rob Hays
President and CEO, Ashford Hospitality Trust

Yeah. I think for some of the quotes that we had seen was basically LIBOR plus or a SOFR plus the kind of 500s, low 500s if you're going up to 65%. It's obviously a little bit lower than that if you're staying below 50. It's still, as Deric said, gapped out probably at least 150 basis points, I think, probably from where it was four or five months ago.

Michael Bellisario
Senior Research Analyst, Baird

Thank you.

Rob Hays
President and CEO, Ashford Hospitality Trust

You got it, Michael.

Operator

Thank you. There are no further questions at this time. I would now like to turn the call back over to management for any closing comments.

Rob Hays
President and CEO, Ashford Hospitality Trust

All right. Thank you everyone for joining today's call. We look forward to speaking to you all again next quarter.

Operator

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