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Investor meeting

Jun 17, 2026

Summary

Four strategic pillars—organic growth, M&A, productivity, and culture—drive consistent outperformance, supported by embedded AI and operational excellence. Segment outlooks remain strong, with raised synergy targets from recent acquisitions and robust M&A capacity. Competitive advantages include scale, data, and technology, positioning the business for sustained growth.

Operator

Good morning, welcome to Arthur J. Gallagher & Company's Quarterly Investor Meeting with Management. Participants have been placed on a listen-only mode. The lines will be open for questions following the presentation. Today's call is being recorded. If you have any objections, you may disconnect at this time. Some of the comments made during this investor meeting, including answers given in response to questions, may constitute forward-looking statements within the meaning of the securities laws. The company undertakes no obligation to update these statements. These forward-looking statements are subject to certain risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially. Please refer to the information concerning forward-looking statements and risk factors sections contained in the company's most recent earnings release, Form 10-K and 10-Q filings for more details on such risks and uncertainties.

For reconciliations of the non-GAAP measures discussed during this meeting, please refer to our most recent earnings press release and other materials in the Investor Relations section of the company's website. It is now my pleasure to introduce J. Patrick Gallagher Jr., Chairman and CEO of Arthur J. Gallagher & Company. Mr. Gallagher, you may begin.

J. Patrick Gallagher Jr.
Chairman and CEO, Arthur J. Gallagher & Company

Thank you. Good morning, everyone. Thanks for joining our investor meeting today. We think these investor meetings give the investment community a chance to hear from our business leaders and better understand what continues to drive Gallagher's growth and long-term value creation outside of the busy earning season. In some cases, it serves as a primer for our new investors. I'll start by discussing Gallagher's four strategic pillars and why we believe we are very well positioned to grow revenues and improve profitability in this market. I'll give an update on the insurance market and economic conditions. After me, you'll hear from our business leaders. They'll discuss their businesses, markets, including the trends, growth opportunities, and operating initiatives that continue to drive strong performance across Gallagher. They'll also give some specific examples of how they're using AI and discuss how they see the second quarter developing.

Doug Howell, our CFO, will pull the comments together and provide a more detailed second quarter and full-year outlook. Our prepared remarks should last around an hour. After that, we will open the line to the group dialed in for Q&A. One of the questions I hear most often is why Gallagher continues to grow across different market environments and outpace the industry over time. The answer starts with our four strategies that have stayed consistent for decades, in which we continue to create opportunity for growth and long-term value. Number 1, grow organically. Number 2, grow through mergers and acquisitions. Number 3, increase our productivity and raise our quality. Number 4, maintain and promote our culture.

These have been tested through economic cycles, employment cycles, interest rate cycles, and insurance pricing cycles. They continue to deliver excellent revenue growth and profit improvement year in and year out. We are a two-pronged growth company, organic and M&A. I continue to like our position on both because we have very little market share, and the industry is highly fragmented. Even after growing organically over $3 billion and acquiring more than $6 billion of annualized revenue since 2020, we still touch less than 5% of the global insurance market. There are perhaps 60,000 smaller agents and brokers around the world who recognize or will recognize they would serve their clients better by being together with us. Our future growth has, practically speaking, no real limits. We're also highly profitable as a company, with EBITDA margins up over nearly 800 basis points since January 2020.

I continue to see significant opportunities to improve productivity, raise quality, and increase profitability. We have a team-first, execution-driven culture that recognizes growing revenue and profits enables us to invest in talent, technology, and expertise necessary to exceed our clients' expectations. Put simply, this business is built to deliver double-digit annual revenue and EBITDA growth and to turn that into long-term shareholder value. Let me do a deeper dive into our first objective, growing organically, and why I believe our combined brokerage and risk management segments are still on track to deliver full-year 2026 organic growth of about 6%. Gallagher has client capabilities in approximately 130 countries, more than 72,000 employees, and the ability to provide advice and solutions across insurance, reinsurance, human capital, and claims management. Insurance remains one of the most essential products in the global economy.

It touches just about every business, every asset, every transaction in the economy, all of which have increasing risk and greater complexity. The Swiss Re Institute estimates that there are more than $7 trillion of annual insurance premiums globally, which includes $4 trillion in non-life premiums alone. That premium base continues to expand as economies grow, insurance demand increases, and new risks create new coverage needs. We touch about $200 billion of premium a year. Frankly, global insurance premiums are growing annually more than we currently touch. What's contributing to that broader market growth is the ever-increasing size and complexity of risk, meaning insureds need our expertise more and more every year. Examples like data centers, cyber, energy transition, and evolving liability risks increasingly require specialized expertise, better data, and more sophisticated advice.

Today, you'll hear from the team how we have industry-leading talent around the world, deep expertise across products and geographies, and a consistent, successful approach to sales and service, all operating under an ever-increasing respected global brand. You'll hear those strengths are reinforced by the scale of our data, our Centers of Excellence, and the technology and AI capabilities we continue to build across the organization. You'll also hear about the diversity of our model with operations across PC, retail, wholesale, benefits, reinsurance, and claims, each with different growth drivers and sensitivity to market cycles. Our producer talent, niche expertise in global and diverse capabilities, and client-first culture are the reasons Gallagher has grown organically in practically any environment. Turning to our second objective. Another way Gallagher creates long-term value and revenue growth is through mergers and acquisitions.

The opportunity for M&A remains substantial because insurance distribution continues to be highly fragmented around the world. When firms join Gallagher, they get immediate access to our niche experts, client and carrier insights, digital and AI tools, thought leadership, recognized brand, and our elevated service from our centers of excellence. That creates immediate value for their clients and gives their producers more ways to win. It also strengthens Gallagher through the addition of talented producers, specialized expertise, and local market relationships. So far this year, we've completed 15 mergers, representing around $115 million of estimated annualized revenue. Looking at our pipeline, we have nearly 40 term sheets signed or being prepared, representing around $600 million of annualized revenue.

We remain disciplined on valuation and focused on culture fit. We believe the same factors driving our organic growth, our talent, expertise, data, and client solutions also continue to strengthen our position as a preferred acquirer. The third objective of our strategy is to increase productivity and raise quality. This has been a longstanding focus for Gallagher. More than two decades ago, we began building our centers of excellence, where today, over 18,000 colleagues handle many of our back office and client servicing activities. Through standardized processes and common systems, we've created a scalable, consistent operating model across the organization. That work is particularly important in the context of AI. What differentiates Gallagher is not simply that we are deploying AI today, but that we've built the foundation for it over many years. Standardized workflows, centralized data, and a global operating model.

That foundation allows us to move with speed and consistency as we embed AI across the business. AI is not a future initiative for Gallagher. It's already integrated into how we operate, how we support our professionals, and how we serve our clients. We're applying it in practical, workflow-driven ways across the brokerage, claims, benefits, reinsurance, and M&A with a consistent focus on improving speed, insight, and execution. In our brokerage operations, AI is reducing the time required to analyze carrier quotes, summarize loss data, and prepare client deliverables, allowing our teams to respond more quickly, make more informed placement decisions. In our digital platforms, AI is making proprietary data more actionable for producers and clients, improving how we evaluate options and deliver advice. Within Gallagher Bassett, AI is embedded directly into the claims workflow.

It helps identify severity and litigation risk earlier, triage claims more effectively, and improve consistency in decision-making. These capabilities allow for earlier intervention and better outcomes for clients while improving efficiency across the claims process. More broadly, these are not isolated use cases. They reflect how AI is becoming embedded into everyday workflows across Gallagher, improving workflow efficiency, enhancing producer productivity, strengthening placement outcomes, and delivering better insights and results for clients. Similar benefits are being realized in reinsurance and M&A, where AI is accelerating data extraction, analytics, and aspects of diligence, while our professionals remain focused on judgment, relationships, and execution. Importantly, AI makes our brokers, consultants, and claims professionals more effective. It does not replace them. As risks become more complex, clients continue to need judgment, advice, and advocacy, and market access. We see AI as strengthening those core capabilities, not substituting for them.

The benefits from these investments are emerging in stages. We are already seeing gains in productivity and quality. Over time, these improvements support better responsiveness, stronger execution, higher retention, and improved win rates, ultimately contributing to stronger economics and organic growth. The bottom line is simple: AI is helping us grow, improve quality, and operate more efficiently. We believe it will continue to reinforce our advantages in scale, data, expertise, and market relationships. Given the investments we have made in our people, technology, and operating infrastructure, we are well-positioned to continue creating value for our clients and shareholders over time. The fourth objective of our strategy is to maintain and promote our culture. As we've grown, our culture is unchanged. Our focus is on our clients, our people, and doing business the right way. We believe our culture is a meaningful differentiator.

It helps us attract talent, integrate merger partners, retain clients, and continue executing consistently across a growing global organization. It is also what enabled us two decades ago to embark on centralization and standardization as a journey. Our teammates knew that this was better for our clients. They see the same thing coming out of AI. That culture has been a key contributor to Gallagher's long-term success and remains an important part of our growth strategy going forward. Moving to an overview of the insurance market. Overall, we view the global PC insurance market as segmented. Carriers look to grow in lines and geographies where they are earning acceptable returns and remain disciplined where underwriting margins require further support. Property conditions continue to ease as capacity is returned, especially on larger accounts. While casualty remains firmer, given ongoing pressure on loss costs and underwriting margins.

For the first two months of the quarter, we saw the following in renewal premium changes by line of business. Property lines down 9%. Casualty lines up 5% overall, including general liability up 1%, commercial auto up 4%, and umbrella up 8%. D&O, cyber, and other professional lines up 2%. Personal lines up 3%, and workers' compensation about flat. Overall, property decreases are offset by increases across most casualty classes. Excluding property, renewal premium changes are up about 3%, with stronger increases in the U.S. than in international markets. We also continue to see meaningful differences by client size, with large property risks driving most of the downward pressure overall. Across our renewal portfolio, premiums reflect underlying insurance conditions, but our revenue reflects the value of the advice, placement, and advocacy we provide. Those don't move one for one, and that relationship varies by line of business and client mix.

In some areas like property, we've seen premiums come down as rates normalize, while in casualty and specialty lines, premium and revenue trends remain more aligned. In our specialty business, where placements tend to be more complex, that alignment reflects the value of our niche expertise. Good accounts are still seeing some premium relief. However, accounts with poor loss experience are likely to see greater increases. In many cases, where clients are seeing savings in property, they are opting back into coverage or increasing limits. As for reinsurance, capacity remains ample overall, with market conditions varying by line of business. In this environment, the value of a broker becomes even more important. Clients are not simply looking for capacity. They need advice on how to structure coverage, evaluate trade-offs, access the right markets, and make better risk decisions.

That is where Gallagher's expertise, market relationships, and data-driven capabilities help differentiate us and create opportunities to continue winning business. Moving now to our view on economic conditions. Through mid-June, our daily revenue indications from audits, endorsements, and cancellations are still in positive territory and continue to point to solid underlying business activity for our clients. In the U.S., the number of job openings is still ahead of the number of people looking for work. Healthcare costs continue to trend higher due to innovative medical treatments and prescription drug costs. This dynamic has employers continuing to look for cost-effective ways to support their human capital objectives. Overall, these indicators suggest the underlying market conditions that support our business remain intact and continue to support our growth expectations for 2026. All right.

Let me preview what you will hear from each of our business leaders, then I will turn it over to them. Mike will discuss our Americas PC retail and specialty businesses and how scale, niche expertise, data, and technology continue to help us win in a rational market. Patrick will discuss our international retail PC London specialty operations, where our global platform, digital ecosystem, and specialized expertise continue to support growth across international markets. Tom will discuss Gallagher Re, and also as a separate topic, our global M&A strategy, including how our model continues to attract talent, merger partners, and opportunities for growth. Bill will walk through our employee benefits and HR consulting operations, where employers continue to seek advice, cost discipline, and talent solutions in an increasingly complex environment.

Scott will discuss Gallagher Bassett and how scale, data, technology, and AI capability-enabled claims management are helping deliver superior outcomes for clients and supporting continued growth. Doug will bring it all together financially. Okay. I will stop now, turn it over to Mike Pesch, who is going to discuss our PC brokerage operations across the Americas. Mike?

Mike Pesch
U.S. CEO of Brokerage Services, Arthur J. Gallagher & Company

Thanks, Pat, and good morning, everyone. I am Mike Pesch, and I lead our Americas Property Casualty business. Today, I will cover four topics. First, I will provide an overview of our Americas retail and specialty operations in the U.S., Canada, Latin America, and the Caribbean. I will discuss current insurance market conditions, then I will outline how we have implemented AI across the business. Finally, I will end with what we are seeing thus far in the second quarter. Our Americas retail PC brokerage operations generated over $3.5 billion of revenue in 2025. Our largest Americas retail operation is in the U.S., where our U.S. retail PC operations generated over $3 billion of revenue in 2025. Including the recent acquisitions of AssuredPartners and Woodruff Sawyer, pro forma revenue would have exceeded $4.5 billion, with roughly $35 billion of premium placed here in the U.S.

In Latin America and the Caribbean, we generate around $200 million of revenue across 15 countries and have more than 2,000 employees. In Canada, we are a top five commercial lines broker with clients in all 10 provinces and three territories. Here, we generate nearly $300 million of annual revenue with approximately 1,500 employees. In our Americas retail businesses, we serve and compete for commercial clients of all sizes, from large risk management clients to small commercial lines, and also high-net-worth personal lines customers, though to a lesser extent. Most of our clients are middle-market commercial clients who spend between $100,000 and $2.5 million on their annual insurance premiums. That translates into roughly $10,000-$250,000 of annual commission and fee revenue to Gallagher per middle-market client. These middle-market clients often have complex insurance needs, but limited in-house risk management resources.

We are well-positioned to serve them because we combine deep industry specialization and local relationships with the scale, data, and resources of a global platform. That lets us bring tailored advice, broad market access, and practical risk solutions to clients who may not have those capabilities in-house. As a result, clients rely on us to identify, evaluate, and manage risk. That embeds Gallagher more deeply in their operations, strengthens retention, and creates more opportunities to grow with them over time. Gallagher Blueprint combines our knowledge and data-driven approach with AI to focus on the most important drivers of our clients' total cost of risk. In practical terms, that means helping clients evaluate coverage adequacy, improve loss control, manage claims, optimize program structure, and decide when to retain risk versus transfer it.

Those are the kinds of decisions that directly affect a client's total cost of risk and make the broker relationship much more valuable than simply placing a policy. The risk management advice and solutions we provide are strengthened by our niche practice groups. These specialists understand the products, exposures, and industry-specific needs that matter most. They work side by side with our producers in the field so we can identify and address each client's unique risks. We have a deep bench of niche specialists spanning property, cyber, technology, construction, energy, reinsurance, space, and executive risks, to name a few. Our industry experts often work together to support more complex risks. This niche strategy reflects more than 30 years of deliberate investment. We built it practice by practice. It gives our producers access to specialized expertise that is hard to replicate.

That helps us solve more complex client problems, deepen relationships, and support retention and cross-sell over time. Data centers are a good example of how that specialist model creates value. They are one of the fastest-growing and most complex risks in the market today, driven by AI, cloud computing, and digital infrastructure demand. They are also large, capital-intensive projects, often with insured values in the $ billions. These projects cut across property, construction, cyber, energy, business interruption, and executive risk. Clients need coordinated advice and placement across a broad carrier base. Our advantage is that we can bring those specialists together, backed by hundreds of professionals who help data center clients with risk management, safety protocols, claims resolution, and claims advocacy. Speed of execution is critical in this market, and our scale, market relationships, and data capabilities help us secure capacity efficiently and deliver solutions for our clients.

Ultimately, our role is to help clients place and manage these risks more efficiently as they scale critical digital infrastructure. It shows how Gallagher's scale, specialty expertise, and data capabilities help us solve complex client challenges in ways that are difficult to replicate. Claims advocacy is another real differentiator for Gallagher. When clients have a loss, we bring expertise, market relationships, and execution to the claims process. That helps clients recover faster and stay focused on running their business. It also deepens relationships, supports retention and cross-sell, and makes the revenue stream more durable over time. That value extends to carriers as well. When we bring a client to market, we help carriers understand the risk, the client's operation, the loss control work already underway, and the coverage structure that makes sense.

Better submissions, better data, and better risk conversations help carriers deploy capacity more efficiently and make more informed underwriting decisions. That is an important part of why the broker model continues to matter on both sides of the transaction. It is another example of how our platform helps producers win business, serve clients more fully, and deliver value when it matters most. Our decades of work and hundreds of millions of dollars of investments are differentiators in the business. Whether you're a longtime Gallagher producer or a new merger partner, these capabilities are available from day one to help service clients more effectively, improve retention, and drive new business production. Let me shift now to our specialty business, which collectively generated approximately $1.5 billion of revenue during 2025. With the addition of AP, our annualized run rate revenue is over $2 billion.

Our specialty business includes our U.S. wholesale, affinity, risk program administration, as well as alternative risk and capital management operations. Our U.S. wholesale operations, known as Risk Placement Services or RPS, represent about half of the specialty revenues. RPS was founded in the late 1990s and has grown to one of the largest wholesale brokers in the U.S. It includes our open brokerage programs, binding, and MGU, MGA businesses. We engage with over 25,000 retail clients, providing data, analytics, differentiated products, and access to specialty markets and insurance solutions that align with their client needs. The other half of our annual run rate revenue comes from our other specialty operations, such as our affinity business, where we offer specialized insurance solutions for over 300 national associations and affinity groups.

Our risk pooling business, where we offer a wide range of services to support public entities, education, faith-based organizations, nonprofits, and other member-based groups. AP added strength here as well, particularly in public entity pooling. Artex, our alternative risk solutions, captive management, and ILS administration business. Artex is one of the largest captive managers globally and a leading player in the broader ILS market. Moving on to my second topic, insurance market trends across the Americas, starting with U.S. retail. So far in the second quarter, renewal premium change, that's both rate and exposure combined, is down around 2%. While this reflects the premium change, specifically fees as well as stronger commission rates produce positive renewal revenues over the same period. There has been much discussion on property renewal premium moderation, which is still felt mostly by our larger clients.

Casualty lines, on the other hand, continue to show increases with more uniform increases by client size. That said, in many cases where potential price savings are available, clients are increasing their coverage levels and redeploying those savings into higher limits and broader coverage. If I break this down by line of business, property is down 11% with all coverages in positive territory. Casualty is up 7%, which includes general liability up 4%, commercial auto up 8%, and umbrella up 8%. Package is up 3%. Workers' compensation is about flat. D&O is up about a point, and cyber is up 5%. Excluding property, renewal premium change was up approximately 4% over the last two months, which is consistent with what we saw in the first quarter.

In this market, we're seeing a further divergence between our renewal premiums and revenues on those same accounts as renewal revenues remain positive over the same period. Starting with property, this is where the disconnect is most visible today. As rates come down, renewal premiums are declining, but our revenue impact is more muted. That reflects strong retention, exposure growth, and the work our teams are doing on placement and program structure. Many of the larger and CAT-exposed accounts driving the headline changes are also likely fee-based, which is another reason the revenue impact is different. In casualty, we're still seeing positive rates, so premium and revenue remain more aligned. As that rate environment moderates, revenue growth will increasingly reflect exposure and client activity rather than pricing alone.

As we've discussed previously, many of the larger and CAT-exposed property accounts are driving the headline changes, but these accounts are often on fees. Moving to Canada, renewal premium changes show decreases of around 2%. Property is down around 8%, and casualty is down about a point. Moving to the U.S. wholesale market environment, through the first two months of the quarter, our open brokerage renewal premiums were down about 4% and binding premiums up about 2%. This is the kind of market where our expertise, product knowledge, and data-driven insights matter most. Every client has a different risk appetite, a different set of needs, and a different budget. Our role is to help clients navigate those trade-offs and find the right coverage at the right price for their risk profile.

At our March Investor Day, I talked about how SmartMarket and Gallagher Drive are using AI across our workflows. Since then, we've continued to expand those capabilities across the business. We are applying AI in three practical ways. First, turning our proprietary data into more actionable insights for producers and clients. Second, improving placement quality and carrier matching through tools like SmartMarket and Gallagher Drive. Third, helping our people deliver better client outcomes through faster analysis, stronger submissions, and more informed risk advice. These tools are already embedded in our workflows. They help producers evaluate carrier options faster, compare pricing and coverage structures, and prepare submissions more efficiently before going to market. The impact is straightforward. Faster response times, better-informed placement decisions, and more consistent execution. Over time, that supports stronger retention and higher win rates.

These capabilities continue to scale as adoption expands across our producer base. Finally, a brief update on what we are seeing in the second quarter. Through the first two months, the underlying trends remain constructive. Renewal revenue increases continue. Net new business spread remains positive, and we have not seen a meaningful impact from midterm policy activity, including audits, endorsements, and cancellations. Taken together, those indicators, along with continued strong client retention, support our confidence in the outlook. Based on what we are seeing thus far, we continue to expect mid-single-digit organic growth in total for our Americas Specialty and our Americas Retail P&C businesses. Looking ahead, we remain confident in our long-term prospects. We have differentiated solutions, strong sales talent, data-driven insights, and a client-first culture that position us to continue delivering strong results.

Those strengths are embedded across the business and supported by the scale, specialization, and execution discipline that have consistently driven our performance. With that, I'll turn it over to Patrick Gallagher, our Chief Operating Officer, who will discuss the rest of our major property casualty retail operations as well as London specialty. Patrick?

Patrick Gallagher
COO, Arthur J. Gallagher & Company

Thanks, Mike, and good morning, everyone. I'm Patrick Gallagher, Chief Operating Officer. Today, I'll focus on our retail P&C units in the U.K., Australia, and New Zealand, along with our London specialty business. Let me cover three things. First, I'll give you an overview of these businesses and what differentiates Gallagher globally. Second, I'll talk about the insurance environment in each market. I'll finish with what we're seeing so far in the second quarter and how that supports our organic growth outlook. Starting with our international retail businesses. Today, our international retail operations in the U.K., Australia, and New Zealand generate approximately $1.6 billion of revenue and place over $12 billion of premium annually on behalf of clients. Our international retail operations are an important contributor to Gallagher's growth story and one of the clearest examples of how we have successfully scaled our model across geographies.

Taken together, these businesses reflect the scale, reach, and market positions we have built across some of the most important insurance markets globally. What is most important here is that we are not operating as a collection of separate local businesses. Over the last decade, we have built a more connected global platform that lets us leverage expertise, data, technology, and client solutions across geographies. That is one of the things that differentiates Gallagher and supports our ability to continue growing across these markets. Our international retail clients look very similar in complexity to our Americas clients, with a focus on the middle to upper middle market. We also provide brokerage services to large account risk management businesses. We also serve smaller commercial enterprises and high-net-worth personal lines clients, though to a lesser extent.

Despite operating across different markets, these clients often share many of the same insurance and risk management needs. Our sales approach and tools look a lot like the Americas. We built that consistency by design over the last decade, and it is the foundation of our global go-to-market playbook. Rather than operating independently by geography, our teams leverage a common set of tools, expertise, and capabilities around the world. Today, we have unified global go-to-market playbook. At its core, it brings a consistent approach to risk management, industry expertise, data-driven insights, and client service across our international platform. First, CORE360 anchors our risk management discussions with clients and prospects of any size anywhere around the world, and it provides a common framework for how we identify, assess, and address client risk.

Second, our global niche practices cut across industries and products, allowing clients across geographies to benefit from our deep knowledge and expertise. Examples of our global niches include energy, real estate, hospitality, and marine. Third, our data and analytics platform helps us deliver more informed advice and create a more connected client experience through tools such as Gallagher Drive, SmartMarket, and Gallagher Go. Gallagher Drive shows prospects and clients insurance buying trends for similar Gallagher clients from around the globe. Within Gallagher Drive, a client or prospect can see information for clients like me, including coverage mix, limits, potential catastrophe exposure, and claims forecasts. The platform further differentiates us versus the competition as producer adoption continues to grow. SmartMarket has evolved into a global offering used by most of our large carrier partners across our retail platforms, helping improve connectivity and efficiency across placement activity.

For carriers, that connectivity matters because it helps them see business that fits their appetite, understand where they can compete effectively, and engage earlier with the risks that align with their underwriting strategy. For clients, it improves speed, market access, and execution. That combination is one of the reasons our platform creates values for both sides of the market. Gallagher Go gives clients a simple way to manage their insurance in one place. It provides a single digital experience and is becoming an increasingly important channel for how clients interact with Gallagher. While our retail operations use the same sales techniques, tools, data, and analytics, they also rely heavily on our Gallagher Centers of Excellence for large portions of their client servicing work. Our Centers of Excellence are a good example of the operating advantages we have built over time.

For nearly two decades, we have made our processes more connected and standardized. That has driven productivity and quality gains while also creating the data foundation behind many of the technology capabilities I mentioned earlier. That foundation, along with a more unified technology infrastructure, lets us apply technology and increasingly AI in practical ways across the workflows that matter most. We are focused on use cases that improve productivity, strengthen decision-making, and create better outcomes for clients. That includes policy checking and quote data extraction as well as better submission quality and embedding AI into core tools like Gallagher Go, Drive, and Guide. The key point is simple. We are using AI to take friction out of the workflow and create a more connected platform where data insights and tools work together across placement and servicing.

When we take friction out of the workflow, our producers and service teams can spend more time on prospecting, onboarding new clients, and serving existing ones. That supports organic growth. In Gallagher Go, tens of thousands of retail clients are already using the portal, with adoption continuing to build each month. We are expanding it later this year into benefits, U.S. small commercial, personal lines, and global reinsurance. Gallagher Drive is also seeing tens of thousands of dashboard views each month. Those comparative insights are helping us win new business and improve retention. This quarter, we built on that by layering in AI so producers and clients can query coverages, limits, and risk appetite more directly.

The bottom line is that AI is already improving how we operate. The real differentiator is the foundation behind it, our standardized processes, global data model, centers of excellence, niche expertise, and connected digital tools. That is what allows us to deploy AI in practical ways across the workflows that matter most while keeping our professionals at the center of the client relationship. Now shifting to London Specialty. Our London Specialty platform has roots dating back to the mid-1970s. We focus primarily on larger commercial home clients, supporting retail agents and brokers around the world to place specialty insurance solutions across six main trading divisions: aerospace, marine, financial lines, casualty, construction, energy, and property. We have over 1,300 colleagues within our London Specialty Group, which generates more than $700 million of annual revenue and places more than $6 billion of premium annually.

London Specialty growth has been very strong in recent years. We still have many attractive growth opportunities. There are three priorities there. First, we are continuing to deepen our specialty niches. We are constantly looking to expand capabilities, market relationships, and product offerings that align with client needs, including financial lines, cyber, and energy. Second, we are adding and developing talent, including seasoned producers who add to our expertise across our six specialty trading units. We also continue to develop our own talent through our Gallagher Futures graduate program. Third, we are focused on placement efficiency and the best route to market. That includes greater use of more efficient placement structures where they give us a better process and better economics than traditional facultative placements. Let me turn to the market and what we're seeing so far in the second quarter.

Starting with retail in the U.K., renewal premium changes, including rate and exposure, are down about 1%. Property is down 2%, commercial auto is up 1%, general liability is flat, D&O and cyber together are up about 3%. Most other lines combined are about flat. Renewal premium changes in Australia are down also about 1%. Property lines are down 3%, package is up 9%. Other casualty lines are down low single digits. In New Zealand, renewal premium changes remain under pressure in selected lines and are down about 6% in total. Property is down about 10%, cyber is up 6%, while most other lines are flat to down slightly. The London Specialty market remains well-capitalized and competitive, with ample capacity and generally favorable conditions for most clients. Carrier appetite remains very strong.

That benefits clients and creates opportunity for us, but it also keeps pressure on rates across many lines. We still see pressure in CAT-exposed property and other complex risks. Carriers remain disciplined, especially around attachment points, terms, and underwriting quality. In conflict-affected regions, we are seeing meaningful increases in marine war risk pricing and, to a lesser extent, in aviation tied to recent geopolitical developments. In some cases, that rate pressure is being offset by slower activity as geopolitical uncertainty delays investment, infrastructure, and M&A decisions. The situation remains fluid and insurers are actively adjusting their underwriting approach. We are working closely with clients to secure coverage and navigate changing market conditions. This is exactly where specialty expertise matters. London remains the global hub for product creativity and development and the home for large and complex risks.

In an environment shaped by conflict, political instability, climate change, inflation, and higher insured exposures, we see continued opportunity for our London specialty team to deliver strong solutions for clients around the world. Pulling it all together, we continue to expect middle single-digit organic growth in the second quarter and full year 2026 for our U.K., Australia, and New Zealand retail and London specialty units combined. These businesses are performing well, supported by strong client relationships, specialized capabilities, and disciplined execution across attractive markets. I see meaningful opportunity ahead, and we remain well-positioned to continue delivering consistent growth and value over the long term. I'll now turn it over to Tom Gallagher to cover reinsurance and our global M&A strategy. Tom?

Tom Gallagher
President, Arthur J. Gallagher & Company

Thanks, Patrick, and good morning, everyone. I'm Tom Gallagher, and today I'll cover two topics. First, our global reinsurance brokerage operation, Gallagher Re. I'll spend a few minutes on our global M&A strategy. Let me start with Gallagher Re. Gallagher Re is the third-largest reinsurance broker in the world and was formed through the combination of our 2013 startup, Capsicum Re, and the purchase of WTW's treaty reinsurance business in December of 2021. We finished 2025 with more than $1 billion of revenue, much of which comes in the first half of the year, given the timing of major reinsurance renewals. We provide advice, modeling, strategy, and placement expertise across treaty, facultative, and other risk transfer solutions globally. As risks get more complex and capital solutions get more specialized, clients rely on us to manage volatility, access capital, and optimize program structure.

Within our reinsurance business, we've grown organically by investing in talent, capabilities, and client relationships. We've continued to invest in talent across treaty and facultative, and that is driving strong organic growth. We finished 2025 with 14% organic growth, and we've had a strong start to 2026, and we still see a good opportunity ahead. A few examples. First, we are broadening our product offerings, including solutions across life and health, marine and energy, programs, cyber, and property. We're investing in talent across key product areas and geographies. That includes expanding our global facultative capabilities, adding seasoned producers, and developing the next generation of reinsurance talent. We're leaning into our global footprint by growing existing client relationships and winning new business across all of our regions. We also help source additional capital for our clients through alternative forms of capacity, including sidecars, adverse reserve development covers, and CAT bonds.

Our integrated technology platform helps us harness our global footprint, proprietary data, and market access to generate actionable insights at scale. We are using the power of Gallagher to create cross-divisional opportunities with Gallagher Bassett, our retail business, our tech specialty, and our benefits team. We are embracing AI to support our producers, service teams, and clients. We're using AI in practical ways today to improve speed, quality, and insight across Gallagher Re. For example, we use AI in core platforms such as Workbench to extract and structure quote information from documents and emails. This improves data quality, accelerates workflows, and gives brokers faster access to usable market intelligence. We are also using AI with our data and analytics capabilities to generate better insight from proprietary data, helping teams compare trends across geographies and lines of business and bring sharper insight to clients.

The important point is that AI does not replace judgment, relationships, trust, or market access. Instead, it makes our brokers better by giving them faster access to cleaner data, sharper analytics, and more usable market intelligence. That strengthens the capabilities that have always differentiated Gallagher Re: our people, data, relationships, and platform. All this helps us operate with more speed, consistency, and scale. The 4.1, 5.1, and 6.1 renewals reflected many of the same themes we saw at 1.1. Abundant capacity, meaningful risk-adjusted rate reductions in property and specialty lines, and broadly stable casualty pricing. In Japan, property CAT renewals saw somewhat more downward pricing pressure, and this accelerated further in the Florida property CAT market.

The conflict in the Middle East has increased uncertainty, it has not changed the overall reinsurance market dynamic to date, we do not currently expect it to alter broad pricing trends across the market. Where it does matter is in the exposure analysis, coverage review, and structuring solutions for clients with more directly affected portfolios. As we look toward the upcoming 7.1 renewals, the broad backdrop appears consistent with what we have been seeing previously. Ample capacity, continued competition in many lines, and client demand for thoughtful structuring and advisory support. In that environment, we're helping clients clarify exposures, stress test coverage response, and assess how current programs may perform under different scenarios. We promote the right program structure and price, including the use of alternative forms of capital through bonds and sidecars. We review war-related cover and wording where relevant and position upcoming renewals consistently.

We structure tailored solutions for clients in specialist areas such as shipping, energy, aviation, cyber, and political risk. From the carrier perspective, the value of the broker model is also clear in this environment. Reinsurers and capital providers need high-quality data, clear exposure analysis, and well-structured opportunities where they can deploy capital with confidence. Our role is to help clients articulate the risk, evaluate alternative structures, and bring the right opportunities to the right markets. The reinsurance market remains well-capitalized. Capacity is abundant, and conditions are increasingly favorable for well-structured buyers. At the same time, client demand remains strong, driven by underlying exposure growth and the need for more sophisticated risk transfer and capital solutions. More importantly, this market is creating opportunities for clients to do more than simply reduce spend. They can refine program structure, add targeted protection, and improve portfolio resilience while capacity is abundant.

Importantly, our growth is not dependent upon rate. Rate can move up or down, but clients still need advice on volatility, capital structure coverage, and market access. Our growth is driven by many different factors, including our ability to attract talent, expand advisory capabilities, win new business, source additional capital, and help clients navigate increasingly complex risk and capital decisions. Those drivers have supported strong organic growth across a variety of market environments, and we believe they position us well going forward. As we look to the rest of 2026, we remain bullish on our growth outlook. For reinsurance, our growth strategy is across lines, across geographies, and multifaceted. A growth strategy that will continue to outperform in any market. Let me turn to M&A across our businesses. Alongside organic growth, M&A has long been an important part of Gallagher's strategy. Doug will cover capital allocation and discipline.

Strategically, M&A remains central to how we add talent, capabilities, and client reach over time. We have a long track record of tuck-in acquisitions, and we continue to see substantial opportunity ahead. The market remains highly fragmented, with roughly 30,000 agencies and brokerage firms in the U.S. alone, plus substantial opportunity of another 30,000 or so across our other major operating geographies. Most of these firms are smaller and privately owned. Gallagher is a strong long-term home for these entrepreneurs who want to do more for their clients, grow faster, and create more opportunity for their teams. At Gallagher, M&A brings together entrepreneurial spirit, local relationships, and specialized expertise with our scale and culture. Our merger partners bring expertise, market insight, entrepreneurial thinking, and strong client relationships, and these additions make Gallagher better.

Gallagher brings a broad set of capabilities to help our merger partners serve clients and grow, including specialized expertise through our various niche practice groups, access to our data and analytics capabilities, including Gallagher Drive, broader risk management capabilities across retail, wholesale benefits, alternative markets, and reinsurance. Deep carrier relationships and differentiated product offerings and scalable operational support through our Gallagher Centers of Excellence. We also offer something many owners care deeply about, permanence. Gallagher is a long-term home. Partners are not joining a business to be resold, and if they receive equity, it is the same equity held by everyone in our organization. Merger partners also gain immediate access to our operating playbook, which helps them bring more value to clients from day one.

That can show up in practical ways for clients, including access to tools like Gallagher Submit that can streamline renewal workflows, use of Gallagher Drive capabilities, including clients like me to benchmark programs against comparable clients, faster certificate of insurance turnaround times, and improved policy accuracy through more scalable service operations, and a wide range of additional resources that smaller firms cannot build on their own. We see a similar benefit in M&A, where AI can help us move faster through screening document review and parts of diligence, while our people remain focused on judgment, negotiation, and integration. For example, we're using AI to support target screening and review large sets of diligence materials more quickly, helping our teams identify patterns, surface issues, and focus their time where judgment matters most.

As in Gallagher Re, AI is helping us improve productivity and consistency, but it does not replace judgment, relationships, and cultural assessment that matters most in successful M&A. Across both reinsurance and M&A, AI is helping us improve productivity, quality, and responsiveness. More importantly, we're applying it in real workflows across the business to support our teams, serve clients better, and strengthen an already differentiated model. For many owners, the choice comes down to whether they want to build these capabilities independent over time, with no guarantees that clients will wait or gain immediate access to Gallagher's scale, expertise, and capabilities through our platform. More owners are recognizing that trade-off. It is one reason our M&A deal sheet and pipeline remain robust. We remain confident that our proven M&A strategy will continue to create value for our merger partners, our clients, and our shareholders.

With that, I'll turn it over to Bill Ziebell to discuss our benefits brokerage and HR consulting operations, known as Gallagher Benefit Services. Bill?

Bill Ziebell
CEO of Employee Benefits Consulting and Brokerage, Arthur J. Gallagher & Company

Thanks, Tom, and good morning, everyone. I am Bill Ziebell, Chief Executive Officer, Employee Benefits Consulting and Brokerage, and I lead our employee benefits and HR consulting business, Gallagher Benefit Services, also known as GBS. My comments today will cover three topics. I'll provide a quick overview of GBS. I'll discuss how we help clients manage benefits and human capital challenges. I'll close with what we've seen so far in the second quarter. GBS was established in the mid-1970s and has grown into a global business focused on helping employers address their most pressing workforce and benefit-related needs. GBS was the fourth largest benefit broker and HR consult in the world at the end of 2025, generating around $2.5 billion of annual revenue. With the addition of AssuredPartners, our annualized run rate revenue is over $3 billion.

The U.S. remains our largest geography and represents approximately 90% of annual revenues, while the remaining 10% is predominantly from the U.K., Canada, and Australia. Our producers provide solutions across a wide range of employee benefits products to help businesses address their human capital needs. About two-thirds of our annual run rate revenue comes from health and benefits offerings. That includes traditional group insurance coverages like medical, dental, vision, disability, and life, as well as benefits plan design, financial projections, and cost-saving strategies. The remaining one-third of our revenue comes from retirement services, compensation advice, executive life, HR consulting, and other similar offerings that help employers address their human capital strategy outside of traditional health and benefits offerings. We often compete against local or regional benefit firms that do not have the product breadth and expertise that we have.

With that said, we serve clients of all sizes, including large or jumbo accounts where we provide a differentiated alternative to some of our larger competitors. This breadth allows us to address a wider range of client needs, deepen existing relationships, and create additional opportunities to grow alongside our clients over time. We also can leverage our multinational consulting business to help employers with operations outside of our core geographies. Before I get into some of our growth initiatives, I want to spend a moment on Gallagher People Strategy, our client value proposition. This is how we help clients think about total reward programs that attract, engage, and retain talent while managing costs. When you look across the benefits landscape, the opportunity goes well beyond traditional compensation consulting and medical coverage. Employers can support financial well-being through retirement and savings programs.

They can also support physical and emotional well-being through a broader range of health and workplace solutions. Our role is not simply to place medical or health insurance. Our tailored approach helps clients address their most important HR and organizational challenges as they manage their broader workforce goals. This consultative approach helps differentiate Gallagher in the marketplace and strengthens our role as a long-term advisor to clients. When we consider growth opportunities for GBS, overall, the macro environment is supportive of growth. More recently, we are seeing more employers focused on strategies and offerings to retain their employees compared to strategies to attract new talent. While talent remains top priority for most organizations, managing rising medical costs is becoming increasingly important for employers.

As employers look for ways to support their human capital objectives while managing ongoing medical cost inflation, these are exactly the issues our professionals are helping them navigate. Our work goes well beyond placing insurance. We start by understanding the client and their employee population. We look at plan design, workforce demographics, and the key cost drivers. From there, we develop solutions that fit their needs. These solutions can include narrow networks, preferred provider arrangements such as centers of excellence, pharmacy strategies. Pharmacy costs are rising faster than medical. Our teams are skilled at working with PBMs to identify savings and opportunities for our clients. As we consider market conditions within the health space, we saw medical cost trends rise throughout 2025. We expect that pressure to continue in 2026.

Fully insured renewals at our largest carriers are showing high single digits to roughly 10% premium increases. In stop loss, we are seeing average premium increases in the mid-teens, in some cases above 20%. These trends are driven by increased utilization, including the number of diagnostics and treatments, health provider consolidation and hospital workforce shortages, and higher utilization of higher cost drugs, including GLP-1s. Elevated health program cost pressure is likely to remain with us in the near to intermediate term. Our job is to help clients mitigate that pressure through plan design, targeted solution, and advisory support. As healthcare costs continue to rise, employers increasingly rely on these capabilities to help balance employee outcomes with affordability. That complexity matters. Employers are managing medical inflation, pharmacy cost pressure, workforce retention, and regulation at the same time.

The more complex those decisions become, the more they rely on our advice, analytics, and execution. Our continued investment in data and analytics has supported the rollout of Gallagher Drive and other new products and services for clients. Gallagher Drive remains a differentiator for our benefits team because it gives clients and prospects a clearer insight into benefits program and performance, helping support plan design and coverage decisions. In many cases, our teams can identify savings while maintaining or even improving cost coverage. These insights help clients make better decisions while reinforcing the value of Gallagher's data, analytics, and advisory capabilities. We are also using AI in practical ways across GBS. It's helping us move faster, generate better insights, and deliver a more personalized experience for our clients and employees.

That includes Avante, where we can give employees more tailored guidance while giving employers better visibility into benefit utilization, cost drivers, and overall plan performance. When you pair that with Gallagher Drive, it gives our teams better information to help clients make smarter benefit decisions and strengthens the advice we deliver. We also differentiate Gallagher by sharing our expertise through webinars and thought leadership on topics such as HR compliance, pension de-risking, weight loss drugs, and broader workforce retention-related issues. Along with our ongoing thought leadership efforts, these activities continue to deepen engagement with clients and prospects while reinforcing Gallagher's expertise across a wide range of workforce and benefits issues. Shifting to some comments on April and May.

Recall the first quarter is our largest, yet during the first two months of the second quarter, we saw favorable net new business spread within our core U.S. health and benefits business, and continued strong demand for our individual products and retirement consulting offerings, with more muted demand for our consulting services. When I combine what we are seeing across our global business, second quarter organic growth of approximately 3% and full 2026 organic growth of 4% are tracking in line with our expectations. Looking ahead, I believe we are well-positioned for continued growth. Our expertise, tools, and client approach continue to differentiate us, and we believe that positions us well to help the clients navigate their most important HR and benefits challenges. I'll stop there and turn it over to Scott Hudson, who will discuss our risk management segment, Gallagher Bassett. Scott?

Scott Hudson
Global President and CEO, Gallagher Bassett

Thanks, Bill. Good morning, everyone. I'm Scott Hudson, and I lead our third-party claims administration business, Gallagher Bassett. If you're familiar with our financial statement reporting, it's also known as the risk management segment. I'll cover three topics today. First, I'll start with an overview of Gallagher Bassett, or GB for short, including key elements of our strategy. I'll touch on what we're seeing in the business, along with the drivers behind our strong organic growth. I'll finish with some comments on how we're positioning the business for the long term. Throughout my remarks, I'll touch on a few themes that we believe are key to our long-term success, the breadth and scale of our operation, our focus on delivering superior outcomes for clients, and the investments we're making in data and technology, including AI-enabled claims management.

Gallagher Bassett was formed in the 1960s and has grown into one of the largest third-party claims administrators in the world. Our core business is straightforward. We adjust and manage claims on behalf of our clients. We don't take underwriting risks. In 2025, we closed more than 1 million P&C claims and paid approximately $18 billion in losses on behalf of our clients. For context, that level of annual claims payment would place us near the top five P&C insurers in the U.S. We have over 11,000 employees globally, supporting one of the largest and most diversified claims operations in our industry. We finished 2025 with approximately $1.6 billion of revenue. Moving to key elements of our strategy. We're focused on serving four types of clients. First, we serve large commercial clients. Think Fortune 1000 businesses.

These clients have balance sheets that allow them to have large deductible programs or self-insure. They then outsource the claims resolution process to us. This is our most mature and largest client segment. Second, we serve clients in the public sector. This includes municipalities, state entities, federal governments, and school districts. Third, we serve group captive or alternative market clients. These insurance entities utilize our services for their claims handling infrastructure. Our fourth and last client segment is insurance carriers. These are underwriting enterprises that choose to fully outsource or white label a portion of their claim handling operations. Outsourcing a portion of a carrier's claims can help address aging claim systems and adjuster recruitment, two of the major challenges facing carriers today. Carriers are a sizable and still largely untapped market for our services. Today, around 90% of U.S. claims are still handled by carriers.

The same is true outside the U.S. We believe that dynamic is starting to shift as carriers look for more flexible, capital-light operating models, particularly given cost pressures and the need to modernize their claim infrastructure. Our goal is to serve these clients wherever they operate in the world. North America currently represents about 80% of our revenue, with most of the remainder coming from Australia and to a smaller share from EMEA. We expect North America to remain a strong driver of our growth, while international markets provide meaningful longer-term opportunity as we expand our capabilities and global reach. Our broad product set across workers' compensation, liability, and property allows us to address many of our clients' P&C exposures.

Within liability, most of our volume comes from auto and general liability claims, with additional expertise in specialty areas such as cyber, environmental, marine, medical malpractice, professional liability, and product liability. Within property, we focus on specialty classes and complex claims rather than large storm or catastrophe adjusting. In terms of our revenue mix, roughly 60% of our adjusting revenue comes from workers' compensation claims, about a third from liability, and approximately 7% from property. Through our acquisition of My Plan Manager a few years ago, we also expanded in disability claims management in Australia. Today, we're the largest provider in that market and closed nearly 6 million claims in 2025. Customers choose us for our deep expertise, outstanding service, and consistent execution, all of which help us deliver superior outcomes.

Those outcomes may include mitigating or preventing losses, improving medical delivery, helping employees return to work sooner, shortening claim duration, or increasing claimant satisfaction. Our clients also have different objectives for their claim programs, whether protecting their brand, strengthening customer loyalty, or helping employees return to work sooner. We tailor our services to those objectives, delivering customized solutions and ultimately greater value. Our claim managers have access to proprietary tools and technology to guide decision-making throughout the life of a claim, prepare analytical reports, and provide easy access to claim status and financial information. Our RIMS platform, Luminos, has consistently been recognized as the best in our industry. The system has risk analytics and benchmarking tools built in, providing our insurance carrier clients with real-time claim insights by geography and industry, which ultimately assist them in making better underwriting decisions.

We also have simple state-of-the-art processes and tools for exchanging vast amounts of data with clients, brokers, and regulators. One of our biggest advantages is the amount and depth of the claims data we have, and that advantage only grows as AI becomes more capable. Our objective for using AI, help claim managers make better, faster, and more consistent decisions at key points in the claim lifecycle. Support and automate as much work as possible so claim managers can focus on what skilled professionals do best, showing empathy, building constructive relationships, and exercising judgment in complex situations. Use our expertise, experience, and data to further reduce claim frequency and to significantly improve IT productivity and shorten technology delivery timelines.

We already have several AI capabilities in use across the business, including workers' compensation severity, prediction, and early intervention models, auto liability severity prediction and reserve adequacy assessment models, a litigation prevention model, a claim summarization tool for both clients and claim managers, a fraud detection model, and voice and email sentiment analyzers. In early May, we showcased our technology and AI solutions at RIMS RISKWORLD 2026, the world's largest annual risk management event. The overwhelmingly positive response confirmed that our investments are on the right track. Among the solutions that drew the most attention was GB Navigator, our recently launched platform for claims professionals with embedded AI tools. Our newly developed system for nurse case managers, also powered by embedded AI, and Luminos, which I mentioned previously, our risk management information system.

What matters most, however, is whether these solutions are delivering better claim outcomes for our clients, and they are. One clear example is our fraud detection model, which has already saved a single client in excess of $100 million. The opportunities to apply technology, including AI, across our business are endless. They will help us deliver better service, higher quality, and stronger financial outcomes for our clients. Combined with the strength of our team, technology, including AI, will be a key driver of new business, client retention, and consistent organic growth. The last element of our strategy I'd like to highlight is M&A. The TPA industry is already more consolidated than brokerage, so there are fewer merger opportunities. That said, M&A is becoming a more important part of GB's strategy. We're not focused on scale roll-ups.

Instead, we're looking for targeted acquisitions that add specialty capabilities or expand our reach geographically. In 2025, we completed two acquisitions. The first was W.K. Webster, a marine and transit claims specialist acquired in February. With operations across the U.S., U.K., Europe, and Asia, W.K. Webster expanded our global footprint and broadened the services we can provide to insurers and global self-insured companies. We also acquired Safe T Professionals LLC in 2025, an expert in safety consulting solutions in the construction and manufacturing sectors. In 2026, we closed on another two acquisitions, German-based Reck & Co., a global transport and marine claims specialist, and Mays Brown Solicitors, a U.K.-based firm that specializes in shipping and maritime legal services. Both acquisitions tuck in nicely to our marine specialty teams, and Reck gives us a presence in mainland Europe.

Today, we have an active pipeline of potential merger partners across all of our major geographies and businesses. As we look at the business today, momentum remains strong, supported by several factors driving our organic growth. First, client retention remains strong. We continue to win new business across all client segments and geographies, and our pipelines are very healthy. Claim volumes are increasing, driven by both new business wins and growth within existing clients. Client cost pressures remain elevated, which continues to reinforce demand for high-quality claims management that delivers measurable outcomes. When combined with our continued investments in technology and productivity, these trends give us confidence in strong organic growth and solid EBITDA margins for 2026. For the second quarter, we expect organic growth of 11%, driven by several large new business wins we talked about late last year.

For the full year 2026, we now expect organic growth of approximately 8%. We continue to estimate EBITDA margins in the 21%-22% range for both the second quarter and full year. Longer term, we anticipate margin expansion driven by scale efficiencies and continued productivity improvements. To wrap up, I'll briefly touch on how we're positioning GB for the long term. We're investing in developing new claims professionals as well as training our experienced professionals. We're expanding and continually improving our products and services. We're investing in technology, including AI, to deliver even better service and outcomes, and we're committed to preserving and investing in our unique culture. Together, these priorities are scale and our current momentum position GB for sustained growth, margin expansion, and long-term value creation. Okay, I'll stop now and turn it over to our CFO, Doug Howell. Doug?

Doug Howell
CFO, Arthur J. Gallagher & Company

Thanks, Scott, and hello, everyone. Today, I'll recap what you heard from each of our business leaders. I'll highlight some items from the CFO commentary document. I'll provide some comments on cash, M&A, and capital management. Then I'll summarize some comments on AI that you've heard from the team. Then we'll move to Q&A. All right. Let me recap what you heard from our business leaders. Demand for our services is strong. Client retention and new business are both excellent. At the same time, the teams are using data, analytics, and technology in ways that are clearly improving the outcome for our clients. The market background is reasonably consistent with what we expected to see develop here at the end of the first quarter. Property remains competitive. Casualty remains firm. Pricing still varies by account size, complexity, and loss profile.

Larger property accounts are seeing more downward pressure on the property side, while middle market and smaller accounts remains steadier. Overall, the market backdrop continues to support healthy underlying growth. Mike and Patrick highlighted compelling practical uses of our Gallagher Centers of Excellence, technology, and AI around the world. Better workflows, better placement outcomes, and better client service, to name a few. There was also a broader point there on differentiation. In the middle market, especially, our brokers and account teams are showing clients tools, data, and benchmarking at the point of sale that smaller brokers simply do not have. That matters in winning new business and keeping it. This is the broker value proposition in action.

We're using our expertise, our data, and our carrier relationships, and also our claims advocacy teams and our Gallagher Centers of Excellence all together to help clients make better decisions and not just buy a policy. Tom said much of the same thing in reinsurance. In this bifurcated reinsurance market with property down casualty firm, our judgment, market access, and trust, bolstered by benefits from technology and AI, are improving the speed, data handling, and benchmarking, and presentation work that we do for our clients. Bill's comments pointed to a solid demand in benefits in HR consulting, the real message is that the complexity keeps rising. Medical cost trend is an issue for employers. Plan design, cost-sharing, pharmacy, and workforce support are not getting any easier.

That is supporting demand, not just for brokerage, but for HR outsourcing, consulting, and broader advisory work, with technology helping us deliver it more efficiently at better scale. Scott, you just heard, discussed how Gallagher Bassett is also giving us an additive growth profile. Claims complexity is increasing, international opportunities are growing, and the work is less tied to the insurance pricing cycle than the brokerage revenue. GB is using AI inside claim workflows to improve triage, identify severity and litigation risk earlier, and drive better responsiveness and outcomes. Gallagher Bassett is not just performing well, it gives us deep insights into claim advocacy and is also an important growth diversification advantage for Gallagher. When you pull all that together, PC, retail, wholesale, and specialty brokerage, benefits, reinsurance, and risk management, our outlook remains strong.

A very important point, these businesses don't all move the same way at the same time. That diversification helps deliver performance across pricing cycle and adds to the consistency of our growth. As I look out, I still expect second quarter organic growth for the brokerage segment at about 5% and full year 2026 of approximately 5.5%. For risk management, some of the new business wins and international growth have increased our organic growth expectations to 11% in the second quarter with an estimated 8% for full year 2026. Let me shift now to the CFO commentary document that we post on our website. Let's start on page three, which really includes our usual modeling helpers. Only one call-out here for you to update in your models. FX moved a bit over the last six weeks.

Turning to page four, this page recaps our organic growth outlook you just heard from the operating leaders. Each of our businesses have continued the momentum we saw in the first quarter. Now being two months into the second quarter, I have further confidence in the second quarter organic of about 5%. Flipping over to page five, here is where we summarize our investment income and rollover revenues. Please be sure to reflect in your models the interest income as it's shown here, as it makes clear that prior year interest income earned on the funds held to buy AssuredPartners does not repeat. Moving down, we've updated the rollover revenues for brokerage and risk management to include acquisitions closed through yesterday. Please use these figures when you're updating your models. Remember, these amounts do not include AP.

You'll see that now when we flip to page six, AssuredPartners information. I want to spend a minute or so here. Three points as you consider how to use this page within your model. First, remember that forecasted numbers we provide in this table are at the midpoint of our estimates. As we convert locations onto our systems or gain deeper insights into their old system, there could be some small movements between quarters and some additional small netting like we've seen in the last few quarters. That's just geography. Second, the footnote reminds you that the non-cash figures shown on this page, which reflect depreciation and earn-out payable, are included within our estimates on page three, so please don't double count that. Third, this table does not include any revenue or expense synergies.

Those would be incremental to the numbers you see here, and you'll need to model those separately. When you review the numbers on the page, you'll see our second quarter and full year 2026 outlook for AssuredPartners' EBITAC is unchanged. The integrations story continues to improve. Since closing 10 months ago, we've made terrific progress on integration. Nearly all back office systems and processes are fully implemented and up and running. Vendor and real estate consolidations are ahead of plan, and here in the second half of 2026 through mid -2027, we'll get the vast majority of the roughly 300 branches onto our agency management systems. That progress is also showing up in the synergy outlook. You'll see that in the footnote.

We now expect annualized run rate synergies of up to $325 million by early 2028, up from $300 million that we had forecasted when we last spoke in April. Even more impressive, $325 million is well above the $160 million we originally estimated when we announced the deal in December of 2024. That kind of synergy progression says a lot about Gallagher's acquisition strategy, our integration pipeline, and our ability to create more value from these deals over time. Let's now flip to page seven, the brokerage segment EBITDA margin bridge. There is no new news here from what we spoke about in April. Our margin expectations are unchanged. More importantly, this page helps you dig out three things.

First, the first few lines show that the 2025 headline margin is highly distorted because last year, we had interest income that we earned from cash we were holding to buy AssuredPartners. Second, and perhaps most importantly, the line near the bottom shows our productivity and quality efforts should again deliver another year of terrific underlying margin expansion. Third, in between those lines, there are some other puts and takes, but we're starting to get additional margin lift from rolling in AP and AP synergies. Longer term, we still have a long runway of margin expansion from organic growth and scale advantages from M&A. Our platforms are industrial strength and can handle billions more of revenue with little incremental cost. Now let's turn to page eight to the corporate segment. Three updates here.

First, the interest in banking line is updated now to include interest expense on incremental borrowings, primarily related to another $170 million of share repurchases, incremental M&A, and debt retirement. Second, the corporate line. That's updated now for two non-cash items, an unrealized FX loss of about $6 million in the second quarter, and a few million dollars less of permanent tax benefits from the exercise of shares under our employee option plan. Again, both of these are really non-cash, but they do impact EPS. Third, the lower right box gives detail on our cash taxes. At March 31st, we had $165 million of tax credit carry-forwards and another $11 billion of tax-deductible amortization expense related to our acquisition strategy that we'll deduct in the future. Together, credits and amortization are worth about $3.4 billion of future cash tax savings.

This means our cash taxes paid will be around 10% of EBITA for the foreseeable future. Model that. You'll get close. The real punchline that you'll see is that these tax items create a nice cash flow sweetener to fund future M&A. That continues to be an important story. Moving now to cash capital management and M&A funding. When I look at our available cash on hand, expected free cash flows, and future investment-grade borrowings, we estimate close to $10 billion of capacity to fund M&A over the next two years before using any stock. Our M&A pipeline remains strong, and it's full of targets at attractive multiples, which still creates immediate shareholder value through a nice arbitrage. Also to note, in the first quarter, we repurchased approximately $310 million of our shares. Thus far in the second quarter, we've repurchased another $170 million.

We continue to believe our equity is undervalued by the market. This repurchase was opportunistic. Our priorities remain unchanged. We're going to continue to invest in organic growth. We're going to remain active in mergers and acquisitions, staying consistent in our approach and disciplined in our pricing. We'll deploy excess capital in a way that maximizes long-term shareholder value. All right. Let me make a few comments on AI, and then we'll get to Q&A. First, I'm as enthusiastic today as what I see as the opportunity from AI as I was 22 years ago when I first went to India and we hired our first six employees. We are now 18,000 strong in a dozen lower-cost locations around the world. Second, what you heard this morning is real. It's already in the works. AI is embedded into standardized workflows.

It's using our common data, it's improving the operating infrastructure speed that we've built over many years. Third, we're funding it inside our normal technology budget. Fourth, the benefits come in stages, productivity and quality first, then margins, and over time, revenue lift through better service retentions and win rates. Finally, as I said in our March IR day, I do believe on the cost side, over the next few years, we could see about 5% savings in our producer and field sales layer cost, maybe 10%-15% in our service layer cost, and 20%-30% in our back-office layer cost. Of course, some of that will be reinvested to meet changing customer demands, our investment needs, and an ever-evolving insurance market landscape, but it still could be a substantial improvement in our profitability. Those are my comments.

Let's go now to Q&A. We're going to do this time, we're going to try this in two parts. First, we've listened over the last six weeks and distilled a lot of common questions into eight or 10 questions that Sara Walsh, our IR leader, will pre-address for about five minutes. We'll get to those on the line for other questions. Sara, fire away on the Q&A.

Sara Walsh
Head of Investor Relations, Arthur J. Gallagher & Company

Great. Thanks, Doug. First question here is for you, Pat. Let me start with the bigger picture. What do you think investors are still missing about what drives Gallagher's growth?

J. Patrick Gallagher Jr.
Chairman and CEO, Arthur J. Gallagher & Company

Thanks, Sara. When I take a look at it, I think that there's an underappreciation in the marketplace of the consistency of our execution. That's probably more than anything else. In our business, new business matters. Having boots on the ground, bringing customers in makes a difference. Retention matters, diversification matters, I think some people just focus too much on the cycle. I've heard so many investors just say, "Well, cycle's softening. Here we go. We're out of brokers." They're not looking at the actual growth that we're delivering to our shareholders. If you have a broad book and strong producers, we're producer client-oriented, and you keep winning, you're going to grow through these various cycles, I think we've showed that historically.

Sara Walsh
Head of Investor Relations, Arthur J. Gallagher & Company

Great. Thanks, Pat. Mike, on that same point, what gives Gallagher an edge in winning new business or I guess taking market share?

Mike Pesch
U.S. CEO of Brokerage Services, Arthur J. Gallagher & Company

Yeah, Sara. We're a great large account broker. In fact, I think I've shared with this group in the past that it's our fastest-growing segment. Remember, 90% of the time, we compete against a smaller broker, and in the middle market, the tools, the data, the analytics are a real advantage. We can walk into a meeting with better benchmarking, better structure ideas, better claims advocacy than a smaller broker usually can. That's what helps us win business and keep taking market share.

Sara Walsh
Head of Investor Relations, Arthur J. Gallagher & Company

Patrick, so when you and Mike have talked about Gallagher having an advantage here, so what do you mean by that?

Patrick Gallagher
COO, Arthur J. Gallagher & Company

I mean, we have an advantage given our scale, data, and process. I think we've spent a lot of years standardizing our workflows and centralizing our data, as Doug talked about, which already puts us ahead. A lot of firms can test tools, but fewer can deploy them broadly and safely. If you already have common systems, common data, and repeatable workflows, it's so much easier to deploy AI, which will add a lot of distance to our lead.

Sara Walsh
Head of Investor Relations, Arthur J. Gallagher & Company

Great. Thanks, Patrick. Bill, some investors are asking whether AI could eventually pressure the benefits growth if it slows down employment or changes the workforce mix. Why do you think the benefits business remains resilient there?

Bill Ziebell
CEO of Employee Benefits Consulting and Brokerage, Arthur J. Gallagher & Company

Thanks, Sara. Appreciate that.

I guess the way I look at it is I don't think it as a simple unemployment story. It's really more about role changing. People change the types of jobs they're looking for and doing. In other words, whether people are fully employed or underemployed, it's probable they still receive health, welfare, and retirement benefits. As that happens, the need for advice does not diminish, it actually increases. Benefits will become even more of a reason people work. Employers still need help with benefit affordability, plan design, financial well-being, communications, and retention, and that plays directly into our advisory analytics and brokers capabilities. I wouldn't think about this business as purely linear to headcount. If anything, the advice requirement increases, organizations redesign their workforces, which is why we think the employee benefit business remains durable and supportive of organic growth over time.

Sara Walsh
Head of Investor Relations, Arthur J. Gallagher & Company

Great. Thanks, Bill. Mike, back to you. One other topic that we continue to hear about on growth is data centers. As AI driven build out accelerates there, what do you think about that market for Gallagher?

Mike Pesch
U.S. CEO of Brokerage Services, Arthur J. Gallagher & Company

Well, look, I think this is a great market for us. In fact, we just picked up a very large win just last week. I would frame it as part of a broader, complex risk opportunity. It's not one vertical that changes the whole company. Data centers bring large values, technical risk, cyber exposure, and complex placements. That plays perfectly into our strength. Yes, it is a positive area, but I wouldn't overstate it financially. We're going to get our fair share of wins.

Sara Walsh
Head of Investor Relations, Arthur J. Gallagher & Company

Great. I guess, where do you think we help the most?

Mike Pesch
U.S. CEO of Brokerage Services, Arthur J. Gallagher & Company

Well, really, three places. Risk analysis, the program design upfront, the placement across the right markets, and then of course, claims advocacy. Remember, I've shared with this group, we have over 400 claims advocates across the country. These are complex risks, and our clients tend to value a broker that can support the full program.

Sara Walsh
Head of Investor Relations, Arthur J. Gallagher & Company

Great. I'll throw it back to you, Pat. Why are you not worried about AI having a disruptive impact on our organic, and why are you so confident it helps the model instead of hurts it?

J. Patrick Gallagher Jr.
Chairman and CEO, Arthur J. Gallagher & Company

Well, everywhere I look, the world's just getting more complex, that, I think, is what drives advisory based business. That's what we are. It doesn't replace judgment, trusted advice or market access and insight. A client buying a complicated casualty tower or dealing with a tough claim still wants an advocate in the middle. That's why I see AI as a real enhancer to the broker model, not a detriment.

Sara Walsh
Head of Investor Relations, Arthur J. Gallagher & Company

And Patrick, on the carrier side, why doesn't AI lead to more disintermediation? Why is the broker relationship still valuable to carriers?

Patrick Gallagher
COO, Arthur J. Gallagher & Company

Well, it's a good question, thanks. Carriers value brokers who bring them well-structured business, not just more submission flow. A good broker helps frame the risk, improve the data, and place it with the right market. That makes underwriting more efficient and usually leads to a better outcome for the client and the carrier. Brokers still matter after the placement, too, at the renewal, when exposures change, when a claim happens. Even as technology improves, the advisory role stays important to both sides of the market.

Sara Walsh
Head of Investor Relations, Arthur J. Gallagher & Company

Great. Thanks, Patrick. Mike, back to you. I guess, what do we think it does for producers day-to-day?

Mike Pesch
U.S. CEO of Brokerage Services, Arthur J. Gallagher & Company

Well, I can tell you, listening to our producers speak, they love it. It helps them get more prepared faster to give better advice. Look, it can take upwards of two to three days to analyze and compare policies. We've got that down to a half hour, an hour. That, in practical terms, less time on the mechanical work and more time with our clients and more selling. If you help producers get to an answer faster, look smarter in front of their clients, they're going to win more, and that helps keep good people as well.

Sara Walsh
Head of Investor Relations, Arthur J. Gallagher & Company

Thanks, Mike. Doug, do you have any thoughts here?

Doug Howell
CFO, Arthur J. Gallagher & Company

Of course. Let me take it maybe from the client standpoint. We talked about this in our March IR day when we were talking about this. Look at it from what a client's paying for their insurance. We know that it's about 3% of their total cost base. Our share of that is about 10%, so 30 basis points of a customer's cost base is what a broker really charges for a customer to have our advice. Clients know the value that we provide. They know that they have 99.7% of their other costs to worry about. I think the important thing is, let's look at it this way. We really don't sell insurance to our customers. We buy insurance on behalf of our customers.

We're their outsourced risk manager, and frankly, I think that they quickly get to the point that they know what we earn is a bargain. Lastly, don't forget, AI isn't free to deploy either. I think that our customers clearly know and trust our advice, and they've got 99.7% of their other costs that they've got to worry about.

Sara Walsh
Head of Investor Relations, Arthur J. Gallagher & Company

Great. Pat, taking a step back, how do you think AI changes the insurance industry more broadly? Does it create any pressure on broker economics or even commission rates even over time?

J. Patrick Gallagher Jr.
Chairman and CEO, Arthur J. Gallagher & Company

Clearly, I think you hear on the table, we know that AI is going to help the industry work better. It's going to give us better underwriting, better claims handling, and way better service. It doesn't make insurance simple. Everywhere we look, the world's getting riskier, and risk is complex, advice is going to matter more and more. As Doug pointed out earlier, we give that advice at a very reasonable rate. On commissions, I certainly wouldn't jump to any conclusion that automation is going to put structural pressure on the comment Doug made earlier. Again, we're just not taking that much out of the system. I think it helps us structure programs, access markets, navigate claims, and then as it matures, it helps us do a better job that supports the business. It doesn't undermine it.

Sara Walsh
Head of Investor Relations, Arthur J. Gallagher & Company

Great. Thanks. Back to you, Doug. Let's shift from organic here. How should investors think about the timing of the financial benefits to Gallagher from our own AI investment?

Doug Howell
CFO, Arthur J. Gallagher & Company

I think that you heard me say in my prepared remarks that we're going to get productivity and quality first, margins will follow that. Then over time, I see us getting revenue benefit through better service. Like I said, faster response time, I think that we're going to win more on it. I think that as I gave some of those comments in my earlier comments, that's a three to five year journey, I think that this is accelerating every day. We've got 1,000 flowers blooming around the company. We're experimenting, we're learning. I think that we're going to be able to push the opportunities for AI efficiency and profitability. It'll come faster than I think any of us really realize.

Sara Walsh
Head of Investor Relations, Arthur J. Gallagher & Company

Thanks. I'll stay with you, Doug, for one more question here. Let's talk through a few of the numbers, or at least one specific one I'll call out in the CFO commentary. On brokerage organic growth, we've been talking that property is softer across parts of the market. Why are you still comfortable with that 5.5% organic we have for the full year 2026?

Doug Howell
CFO, Arthur J. Gallagher & Company

Listen, nobody has a crystal ball. I think that's a ground-up approach to figuring out how we get to it. We have a process in place that our divisions do to give us an insight into the future. I think that getting there, that our 5% organic growth shows the diversification in our model. It's a bigger story than just property pricing. Casualty is still firm in a lot of places, too, in most places. Our broader point is we're not tied to one pricing index as maybe people think. Rates, sure, they're contributing. Maybe only around 1% of our organic outlook today. The bigger drivers are new business retention, client activity, exposure growth, new coverages, customers opting into coverages that they went without when prices were going up.

I think that we tend to track more closely with things like nominal GDP, payrolls, insured values, the exposure growth of our customers, which you heard Pat say our overnights are showing that we're really operating in a strong economic condition right now based on our data. Pricing matters. It's only one input. Nothing that we're seeing today changing our confidence and our outlook.

Sara Walsh
Head of Investor Relations, Arthur J. Gallagher & Company

Great. Thanks, Doug. I've got two more questions here in front of me. I'll end with a couple of questions on capital allocation and M&A. Pat, how are you thinking about the M&A environment today? Are we seeing valuations or even competition changing the opportunity in any meaningful way?

J. Patrick Gallagher Jr.
Chairman and CEO, Arthur J. Gallagher & Company

Well, our approach has not changed over literally 20 plus years. The market is active. There's competition for quality businesses. Our discipline, I think, matters. We still want to concentrate very closely on culture and cultural fit. That's been a big part of our success over the years, and we continue to see a very healthy pipeline. Our standards remain the same. We want a strategic fit. We want people who love the business, who can run a good business, who fit culturally, and that's what creates shareholder value.

Sara Walsh
Head of Investor Relations, Arthur J. Gallagher & Company

Thanks, Pat. Final one to you, Doug, here. At Gallagher's current valuation level, how are you thinking about buybacks versus M&A?

Doug Howell
CFO, Arthur J. Gallagher & Company

Well, listen, you've heard me say this in other situations. If we buy back a share of stock, we get a nice picture of Art Gallagher, who was a hell of a salesman. You know that I tend to favor trying to get more boots on the ground, get new partners, get new ideas, get new geographies, get new niches. Frankly, we're buying brains. We're not buying businesses. I think that brains that have the opportunity to trade with ourselves, work with our wholesales, work with London, work with Gallagher Bassett, work with our captives. Those to me, sure, there is a slight safety opportunity, risk-adjusted safety by buying our shares back that we think are undervalued. Boy, this is a business that's growing so much. Like Pat said, it's growing $200 billion a year in premiums.

We need more boots on the ground, and we get that through organically by our internship that's got 600 kids in it this summer, and we get it through doing nice tuck-in acquisitions. It's a trade-off that we balance, but I tend to favor growing our business rather than contracting it.

Sara Walsh
Head of Investor Relations, Arthur J. Gallagher & Company

Yeah, great. Great, Doug. Operator, let's now open the line for other Q&A.

Operator

Thank you. The call is now open for questions. If you have a question, please pick up your handset and press *1 on your telephone keypad at this time. If you're using a speakerphone, please disable that function prior to pressing star one to ensure optimum sound quality. You may remove yourself from the queue at any point by pressing star two. Again, that's star one for questions. Our first question comes from the line of Elyse Greenspan with Wells Fargo. Let's just see with your questions.

Elyse Greenspan
Analyst, Wells Fargo

Hi, thanks. Good morning. My first question is on brokerage organic. You guys have pointed to the organic picking up in the second half of the year. I think, Doug, in the past, you said it was based off of incremental reinsurance demand during the mid-year renewals. Did you guys observe that as you expected around these renewals? Is that still, you think, going to be the driver of organic picking up in the Q3 and the Q4? I know we don't get Q3 and Q4 guidance yet, but would you expect those two quarters to be similar to each other and both show improvement relative to the first half of the year?

Doug Howell
CFO, Arthur J. Gallagher & Company

All right. Yes. In answer to your question about reinsurance, we're still seeing that happening. In fact, we're seeing across all of our business that customers are opting in to buy more insurance. Third quarter might be a touch higher than fourth quarter when we look at how it rolls in. I'm going to say, if it's 5% or 6% each of the next two quarters, maybe we'll get 6% in the second, and maybe it'll be 4% in the fourth, or it's 7% and 5%, something like that. Just realize that there might be. You're not going to see 10% in the third quarter and you're going to see 1% in the fourth. There's not that kind of variance around our expectation by quarter.

Elyse Greenspan
Analyst, Wells Fargo

Thanks. My second question, on the brokerage organic guide for the Q2, the 5%, I know you guys guide all in, including supplementals and contingents. If you were looking at base organic, would that be similar to the 5%, or are you looking for outside growth in supplementals or contingents in the quarter?

Doug Howell
CFO, Arthur J. Gallagher & Company

Listen, if there's a variance, it's a point. It's not something big. Here's the thing. Oddly enough, as our supplementals and contingents continue to grow, and maybe they outpace our base commissions, it shows you the value that we're bringing to the carriers. It shows you the value of the quality of business that we're bringing and the volume of business. I think, if supplementals and contingents are running a point or so better than base commissions, I think that's a really good story.

Elyse Greenspan
Analyst, Wells Fargo

Okay, got it. Thank you.

Doug Howell
CFO, Arthur J. Gallagher & Company

Thanks, Elyse.

Operator

Our next question is from the line of Tracy Benguigui with Wolfe Research. Please proceed with your question.

Tracy Benguigui
Analyst, Wolfe Research

Thank you. Good morning. Doug, you mentioned that pricing is only around 1% of your organic outlook today. That's reassuring, but help me understand why we saw a nice uplift during the hard market. Are you suggesting that pricing is asymmetrical?

Doug Howell
CFO, Arthur J. Gallagher & Company

Well, listen, I think what we're talking about is total premium change, yeah, I think it is a little bit asymmetrical as rates were going up and exposure units were growing so much. Remember, we give you a total premium change in that, not just pure rates. Yeah, there is an asymmetrical relationship.

J. Patrick Gallagher Jr.
Chairman and CEO, Arthur J. Gallagher & Company

Also, Tracy, let's not forget this, Pat. As rates are going up, our main function for a client around advice in dealing with the risk is also mitigating that price increase. Yeah, they're definitely asymmetrical.

Doug Howell
CFO, Arthur J. Gallagher & Company

As prices are going up, we do take pay cuts along the way. As on the way down, we tend to do a pretty good job of re-discussing with our clients the value that we bring and reminding them that we took pay cuts on the way up and maybe now is the time that we share a little bit in that downside. They think they're very smart. They know the value that we bring. There's inflation in that too. These are smart customers that understand that we don't need to make as much on the way up, but we need to get some of that back on the way down.

J. Patrick Gallagher Jr.
Chairman and CEO, Arthur J. Gallagher & Company

Let's remember, we're totally transparent with our clients. This is an adult conversation about the value we bring.

Tracy Benguigui
Analyst, Wolfe Research

Okay, great. Since I believe you use net debt in your leverage definition, so you're adjusting for cash, is it fair to use your long-term leverage target of 2.5x as a bogey to assess how much buyback you could complete? I would not be asking this question on M&A, since acquired EBITA helps leverage while buybacks do not.

Doug Howell
CFO, Arthur J. Gallagher & Company

I'd have to see what your puts and takes are in getting to the 2.5, it depends on the rating agency aspect, depending on the debt covenant. We do have private placements out there that have some different. There are a lot of adjustments that go into that. The point on this is 2.5 the right number? Is it three including earn-out? You've got to look at those two bigger components. I think I understood your question, as we think about how much we can buy going forward, not trying to reduce or increase our debt ratio is our objective.

Tracy Benguigui
Analyst, Wolfe Research

Okay. Yeah, maybe I'll just rephrase. Maybe you could just clarify how you look at leverage and if that gives us any insight on how much buybacks you could complete.

Doug Howell
CFO, Arthur J. Gallagher & Company

Yeah, I think that we're comfortable moving our leverage up in order to do M&A. I don't think we'd want to push our leverage ratio up for the sake of buybacks. We have so many opportunities for M&A. We have been consistent that we'll run the debt ratio up when we do M&A, and we're consistent when we bring it back down. Think about it more as a driver of M&A capacity than share repurchase capacity.

Tracy Benguigui
Analyst, Wolfe Research

Thank you.

Operator

Our next question is from the line of Michael Zaremski with BMO Capital Markets. Please proceed with your questions.

Michael Zaremski
Analyst, BMO Capital Markets

Hey. Good morning. Thanks. I guess back to the organic growth part of the value creation for Gallagher. Patrick, you talked about the four powerful strategies allow you all to take market share. I thought that was helpful. You also talked about how one of the biggest main questions you get from investors is how you're decoupling from the decelerating pricing power environment. Just back to the crystal ball question you received earlier, Doug. Do you all expect pricing to stabilize and maybe even improve? Property doesn't fall as much next year or it may be net new, which I think last update you said was running at 2-2.5 points-ish, and I think historically it's been as high as three to four. Maybe that's improving.

Maybe you can kind of just offer some more insights into why you guys are thinking that growth bottoms around in the fives. Thanks.

Doug Howell
CFO, Arthur J. Gallagher & Company

Listen, I think that as we look out for the year, the 5.5% number is kind of assuming 1 point from rate. I think that you're going to probably get maybe 0.5 points or so to exposure units growth, maybe 1 point there. We have a forward thrust of about gaining share of about 3% on that. That's kind of how we're looking at. What have we thought about for property? We're getting through the heavy property season right now. We are assuming that property will continue to move lower somewhat throughout the year. We haven't started looking at next year yet, but sitting where we are right now, I'm not seeing a huge slide in 2027 as much as we've seen it come down between 2024-2025, and 2025-2026.

I believe if you look at that, it's been sequentially going down about 10% each year in the past. I don't think there's another 10% coming out of this market next year overall. Dura property is also not just coastal exposed property. You've got a lot of non-CAT exposed property that is still seeing significant issues with convective storms. We've got a big storm coming through Chicago while we're speaking here. It's pretty dangerous out there when it comes to convective storms. I would not expect the property market in 2027 to have a similar downstep as we would between 2024-2025, and 2025-2026.

Michael Zaremski
Analyst, BMO Capital Markets

That's helpful. Lastly, just sticking on organic, I guess I'm nitpicking, does the guide include the same amount of revenue synergies from Assured as you've spoken to in the past in terms of a small amount of revenue synergies starting probably more in the back half of this year?

Doug Howell
CFO, Arthur J. Gallagher & Company

Our organic growth has not contemplated much of any of that.

Michael Zaremski
Analyst, BMO Capital Markets

Would that be a cushion to the extent you do have some revenue synergies that I believe you've guided to when the transaction was done that would go into organic that you're not contemplating in the guide then?

Doug Howell
CFO, Arthur J. Gallagher & Company

Right now you should assume that that comes and will be attributed to the AP numbers. It will be hard to unscramble that egg in some cases. By and large, if an AssuredPartners person gets a better commission structure because of on our programs, it'll be pretty hard for us to pull that out and put it in our organic numbers.

Michael Zaremski
Analyst, BMO Capital Markets

Understood. Thank you.

Doug Howell
CFO, Arthur J. Gallagher & Company

Maybe there's a ghost organic coming out of that's not in our calculation of the way we calculate it.

Michael Zaremski
Analyst, BMO Capital Markets

Awesome. Thanks.

Operator

The next question is from the line of David Motemaden with Evercore ISI. Please proceed with your questions.

David Motemaden
Analyst, Evercore ISI

Hey, thanks. Good morning. I had a follow-up on the data center piece. Interesting to note that you guys just had a win last week. I'm wondering how much you guys are expecting data center related placements to contribute to organic growth now. Also just maybe talk about the pipeline and your market share in that market.

Mike Pesch
U.S. CEO of Brokerage Services, Arthur J. Gallagher & Company

Yeah. David, this is Mike Pesch. If you heard my last comment on that question, I said really I wouldn't factor it into a true impact to organic. It's going to be part of our normal organic growth storyline. I wouldn't single it out that way. As far as your other questions on market share, it's a little bit more difficult to unpack. I think in prior conversations we've talked about data centers come in very different sizes. I think the average size is about a half a billion dollars of total insured values all the way up to the big ones that you read in the newspaper of $15 and $20 billion. We play very well, and we organized our structure. We already had the pieces in place to really solve the data center opportunity across the infrastructure. We organize them globally.

Our teams in London, our teams here in the United States all talk on a routine basis. They put out content. They're prospecting. We have the relationships with a lot of the real estate developers and others and construction companies that are building these. I can't speak to the overall market share, but as I said, we will get our fair share, and it was a great win last week.

David Motemaden
Analyst, Evercore ISI

Great. Just the pipeline, how that's looking, the timing of when you think that'll convert. Any comments on that?

Mike Pesch
U.S. CEO of Brokerage Services, Arthur J. Gallagher & Company

Yeah. The pipeline. You may have read, there's a lot of articles out there about some of the pushback from some of the municipalities for some of these data centers. We wouldn't share our pipeline in a public forum on this sort of thing, but it's a robust pipeline. The timing of these things can be a little bit funky in the sense that there's a lot of pushback from municipalities. There's a lot of question marks around whether or not people want these data centers where they live. Again, we're going to get our fair share. We've got the relationships with the developers and the people that are building these things, and when they go live, we believe we have the team to service those accounts.

David Motemaden
Analyst, Evercore ISI

Got it.

J. Patrick Gallagher Jr.
Chairman and CEO, Arthur J. Gallagher & Company

You totally eliminate the little guys. You go to your 30,000 competitors in the U.S. that we are buying up every chance. They stumble across an opportunity in a data center, they can't do it. You got a few players in this market, and we'll do just fine.

David Motemaden
Analyst, Evercore ISI

Got it. No, yep, appreciate that. Mike, I think you also, in your remarks, you had mentioned some of the divergence between RPC and renewal revenues. I think you had mentioned retention, exposure, but you had also mentioned stronger commission rates. I don't know if that was a property specific comment or that was broader. Just wondering if you could elaborate on commission rates and if that's something that you guys can continue to push up.

Mike Pesch
U.S. CEO of Brokerage Services, Arthur J. Gallagher & Company

Yeah. I would go back to some of Doug's comments on that in addition to mine. In a market that's softening, commission economics becomes very important, right? We drive value, and you heard Patrick talk about the quality of submissions. The volume that we're now placing when you combine Woodruff and you combine AssuredPartners gives us that opportunity to increase our commission economics. Again, of course, to Pat's comments, this is fully disclosed to our customers. It also comes in a package of asking if we're on a fee, which is about 25%-30% of the time, where we're driving tremendous value to our customer, and where we can earn a raise on that placement for the great work that we're doing, not only on the placement, but also the stuff that we do behind the scenes in claims advocacy and so forth.

It comes in a bunch of different packages, beyond just commission. It comes in a lot of different areas, and so we feel like in this marketplace, we'll be successful, given the fact that we have the volume, we have the quality, and we have the relationships with the carriers to drive that.

David Motemaden
Analyst, Evercore ISI

Thank you.

Operator

Our next question is from the line of Katie Sakys, Autonomous Research. Please proceed with your question.

Katie Sakys
Analyst, Autonomous Research

Yeah, thanks. Patrick, I think you did a great job illustrating how Gallagher Drive is driving new business wins and improving some client retention. I was kind of curious across the broader brokerage business, if you guys can quantify the extent to which Gallagher Drive and perhaps some of your other initiatives are actually improving new business win rates and/or the client retention rate.

Patrick Gallagher
COO, Arthur J. Gallagher & Company

Yeah, I think we have some decent stats on when Gallagher Drive is utilized or frankly, any data or digital output from our teams are used with a client and/or a prospect that we do see our close ratio go up. If you generally close 30% of the prospects that are in your pipeline, we're seeing that increase to 40% and 50% when we place digital or Drive and benchmarking in front of our customers. Yes, getting it out into the field into as many hands as possible and in front of as many prospects as possible will definitely drive our hit ratio.

Katie Sakys
Analyst, Autonomous Research

Got you. I think you guys have made it very clear that most of the times you're competing against smaller brokers, but in the cases in which you are competing for new business against larger peers, how do you think your new business close rate compares to theirs?

Mike Pesch
U.S. CEO of Brokerage Services, Arthur J. Gallagher & Company

This is Mike Pesch. I would tell you that it's on par with exactly what Patrick just said. We think that the tools that we've invested in show very well against We've been told by outside consultants and other firms that our platform, Gallagher Drive and Blueprint and others, stand out as a differentiating factor from impartial third parties. We believe that those sort of things give us a very successful opportunity when we compete against someone of our size or bigger.

J. Patrick Gallagher Jr.
Chairman and CEO, Arthur J. Gallagher & Company

Let me make a comment on that too. This is Pat. A big part of competing at the larger end is our expertise. People want to do business with people that know their business, that's when you get to our verticals and our niches. That's the differentiator 90% of the time, supported by the kind of things that we can do with the data and the data advice. You get into the larger accounts. It makes a huge difference when it comes to where things should be placed, how it should be shared, how it should be layered, what markets you're in. We'll put our expertise and our verticals up against anybody all day long.

Katie Sakys
Analyst, Autonomous Research

Thank you.

Operator

The next question is from the line of Yaron Kinar with Mizuho. Please proceed with your question.

Yaron Kinar
Analyst, Mizuho

Thank you. Good morning. I apologize if you already replied to that, with Mike's question, I may have misunderstood. When I go back to page six of the CFO commentary, I look at the revenues expected from AssuredPartners, those have been coming down a bit. I think as we start looking at the second half of this year, that should impact organic, right? If organic is actually a tad lower from AssuredPartners, where are you getting a better lift than you expected to keep that approximately 5.5% growth expectation for the year?

Doug Howell
CFO, Arthur J. Gallagher & Company

Right. Yeah. Let's go back to the narrative of that. As I think that we've had some netting that's going on as we understand their systems. As they come onto our systems, co-brokerage fees or commission shares with other outside brokers, et cetera, they were showing gross revenues then, and then some expenses associated with that. Now we show that net. If we co-broker with somebody, we do not put-

That into the revenues, nor do we put it into expense. That's just their share of the revenue. You're seeing a little bit of apples to oranges between the blue and the pink sections on this sheet. We will say that those revenue numbers, as we discover more and more of where there's commission sharing going on, you could see a decrease in the total revenues, but the EBITDA is not changing. That's just geography and accounting. We've said before, I would not take the $720 million of revenue in fourth quarter 2026 divided by the $704 million that you see in fourth quarter 2025, and come to the conclusion that that's an organic growth number of 2.2% or whatever, I just did the mental math here on it, that you would see in organic. I don't think this schedule would say that.

What I would say is that AssuredPartners, when we bought it, the thesis was is that they were running nice organic growth, not at the level of us. Therein lies the opportunity. They were running maybe a point and a half less than us. The opportunity is when we get AssuredPartners into our fourth quarter numbers, we will now have a year of opportunity that hopefully we're seeing some terrific organic growth coming out of it. Truly, we're having some terrific wins that I see. From the CFO's chair, I see the great wins that are coming up. We are better together. You can't use this table to judge how organic's going to be.

Our thesis that we're going to improve organic growth for those producers at AssuredPartners that have been waiting 11 years for sales enablement tools is going to come true. There's nothing that makes us think it's going to be different. You can't use this table to reach that conclusion. You didn't miss the answer to the questions because we didn't answer it quite that directly in the past. It's a good question, but I would not jump to those conclusions.

Yaron Kinar
Analyst, Mizuho

Perfect. Thank you. Maybe just to confirm, the fact that the EBITDA from AssuredPartners, the EBITDA expectations have remained unchanged, that's because what had been expected as revenue is now coming in more as an expense save. It's not because the integration cost saves are greater for 2026 than originally expected?

Doug Howell
CFO, Arthur J. Gallagher & Company

Well, we haven't put the integration costs into this table on page six. What it's saying.

Yaron Kinar
Analyst, Mizuho

Yeah

Doug Howell
CFO, Arthur J. Gallagher & Company

is that the geography between a gross up of revenues and gross up expenses has nothing to do with the EBITDA that we think that we're going to realize out of this. What I'm particularly pleased that, boy, if we hit full year 2026, that $1.057 billion before synergies, and we think by the end of the year, we could be running maybe $160 million of synergies too. What a terrific deal this continues to be, not only on a valuation standpoint, but just our teams. It's pretty exciting how they're coming together, Yaron.

Yaron Kinar
Analyst, Mizuho

Yeah. Definitely see that as well. Maybe shifting gears a bit, the M&A that we saw this quarter or are seeing quarter to date continues to be a bit lighter than maybe we've seen in past quarters and years. The term sheet pipeline seems to be very robust. Are we just looking about it at a timing difference here?

Doug Howell
CFO, Arthur J. Gallagher & Company

We always are a little short in the first couple of quarters. People tend to accelerate to try to get something done between now and the end of the year. Sometimes that can be tax driven. Some of them can be estate planning driven based on that. I think there is a realization that's happening right now. The sellers are coming to grips that the valuations that they're going to get by selling their business is probably not as rich as they used to think it was. Here's the thing is we're finding that our story is getting better and better on that. The mystery of what equity means given by a PE owner versus our equity. We've got one common stock that every single person in our organization has. We pay a cash dividend. We pay our earn-outs in cash.

We're not asking them to take promissory notes because they can't make their earn-out payments. They're understanding the tools and capabilities that we can show at the point of demonstration are better for their people. All the tools that the guys talked about for an hour, they get that. 18 days after we bought AssuredPartners, the sales force had our tools and capabilities on their desk ready to use. It's been a training exercise to get them to use it. You get more from Gallagher by selling to it. Sellers have to come to grips that valuations are coming down. That's the thing. Sometimes it takes a little while to realize that maybe I need to take a better thing. Because if I were a small broker and agent, I'd say, "I need those tools now. I can't wait.

J. Patrick Gallagher Jr.
Chairman and CEO, Arthur J. Gallagher & Company

By the way, the deal brokers are still telling them that the renewables are not coming down. You get into a bit of a conflict.

Yaron Kinar
Analyst, Mizuho

Yeah. Got it. Thanks for the comprehensive answers.

J. Patrick Gallagher Jr.
Chairman and CEO, Arthur J. Gallagher & Company

Thanks.

Operator

Thank you. The next question is from the line of Greg Peters with Raymond James. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker 20

Hey, good morning. This is Mitch on for Greg Peters. My first question today is on the competitive environment for producer talent. Have you guys seen any changes in recruiting behavior, employment contract terms, or how firms are using non-solicit protection?

Mike Pesch
U.S. CEO of Brokerage Services, Arthur J. Gallagher & Company

Greg. Look, we think we've got a great place to work. We look at that as an opportunity to recruit great talent. Doug mentioned it. We've got 650 young people coming into this business through our internship program this summer. We recruit our own, we build our own, but we are very strategic. If we have someone who's unhappy where they are at today, we abide by non-competes. We don't see that changing. If we want them on the team and we think that they can build a bigger book of business with our expertise and our capabilities, we go about doing that. Our pipeline hasn't changed. We still have an active group out there connecting with people to make sure that we can continue to build a great franchise with great talent that wants to be a part of it.

J. Patrick Gallagher Jr.
Chairman and CEO, Arthur J. Gallagher & Company

Mitch, this is Pat. Another point here I think that doesn't get made very often that I think is going to be a big part of this is, you're talking, look at all these team lifts and what have you. Clients are getting smart. What's in this for me? Oh, okay, fine. You're happy because you're making a move there. I think Mike's point is when we try to recruit someone from someone else with the tools that we're talking about, what have you, we give the answer to that question. I'm going to Gallagher for myself, for sure. I want to work at a place where I'm happy, but you as a client are going to win. An awful lot of our competition doing team lifts and all this other garbage don't have that answer.

Doug Howell
CFO, Arthur J. Gallagher & Company

Yeah, I got to say, I think that if another year of the fact that some of the return expectations that maybe these producers were expecting in their current homes, if they have any type of equity, aren't coming true, I think we're going to have more and more opportunities because they just can't wait for point-of-sale capabilities to better them. They can sit at their old firms for a long time, and they're never getting the sales enablement tools that we have. They might as well come to Gallagher. I think we're going to be a net winner on it.

J. Patrick Gallagher Jr.
Chairman and CEO, Arthur J. Gallagher & Company

That's kind of the U.S. lens. London is pretty frothy right now. There's a lot of change and a lot of movement going on in London, and I think we're the calm home.

Operator

Alex, your line is open for questions.

Speaker 19

Hey, sorry about that. There was a lag there. I had a question on the risk management business. You provided a lot of good commentary on AI, and I think at one point you mentioned the benefits on growth would come a little later, but it does seem like you're growing pretty well in risk management, and some of the things you talked about were compelling. I'd just be interested in more color on, is that a place where you actually are beginning to see some of that, and could we see growth accelerate, related to some of those things you're doing there?

Scott Hudson
Global President and CEO, Gallagher Bassett

This is Scott. I think the fact is, over the last year or so, we've seen a lot of really nice new business wins. It continues. I think it's a reflection of the investments we're making, our emphasis on great outcomes. We're building that story. It's becoming more compelling, it's crossed all the segments that we serve, whether it's the carriers, the large risk management clients. I think we feel really good about the spot that we're in, the story is resonating in the market.

Speaker 19

Great. Thanks. Can you talk maybe a little more specifically about headcount? What we should expect as you're executing on some of the things that you've talked about from an efficiency standpoint, some of those cost reductions you talked about. Will we actually see headcount reduce, or is there more of that operating leverage? I'm just trying to understand how we'll expect it to come through in margins.

Doug Howell
CFO, Arthur J. Gallagher & Company

Let me break it down, Alex. I think that you're going to see our headcount on producers go up. I think you're going to see our middle office, that as we bring more and more efficiencies to the middle office, when I talk about regardless of whether it's our technologies, our quality centers, our Centers of Excellence, then if you think about AI. I think that we have enough internal attrition that will naturally contract that workforce. Frankly, we're growing so much that just holding steady could be a really, really nice win. In the back office, I do believe that AI will continue to allow us to, again, harvest the benefits of natural attrition. That won't be a perfect one-to-one match as AI comes in.

One thing I will say right now is that we are hell-bent on making sure that if technology causes a job to be no longer necessary, that our human resource department works very hard to repurpose that employee into a spot where we've had attrition someplace else. Attrition will do most of our natural work over the next three years on that. We lose 15% of our people a year. It will probably be a net hire during that, but that we'll be able to net hire at such a pace.

Speaker 19

Got it. That's all really helpful. Thank you.

Doug Howell
CFO, Arthur J. Gallagher & Company

Thanks, Alex.

Operator

Our next question is from the line of Mark Hughes with Truist Securities. Please proceed with your questions.

Mark Hughes
Analyst, Truist Securities

Yeah, thanks. Good morning. You talked about the, in property, kind of the disconnect between some of the more dramatic rate decrease numbers we've seen in your own experience. I wonder if you take into account what you're doing on commissions and maybe policyholders buying more coverage and maybe also taking into account contingent, how would you have seen property revenue the last few months, the last six months? I know you've given us some premium renewals and pricing, how about your revenue when you think about property?

Doug Howell
CFO, Arthur J. Gallagher & Company

All right. Let's break that down to that basic. Remember, any large account or any medium-sized account where they've got a big property tower, or they've got this huge CAT exposure, we're working on a fee for them by and large. By and large, that's it. When you get into kind of more the inland exposed property in package and everything, those rates are still holding in there compared to CAT-exposed properties. We work on a fee in many cases. You get into a package policy, you get to unique property placement and some of our real estate and higher ed type positions. There are commissions on that to a certain extent, but by and large, think about it as that we're protected. We didn't benefit on the upside.

When it was going up 20%, our commission on the property wasn't going up 20%, because there's a lot of fees in there. The mix of our business on property, you need to think of the huge property placements as more of a fee-based business than it is a commission-based business. Does that help you?

Mark Hughes
Analyst, Truist Securities

It does help. If you crystallize that into a number, with all of those dynamics, what has that meant for property? Just so we can think about your real experience hitting your P&L versus some of these other numbers you might have seen.

Doug Howell
CFO, Arthur J. Gallagher & Company

I said earlier that 1% was probably where I thought that the overall organic was influenced by rates in general. Maybe property is getting a negative of a point and casualty is a positive point or something in that range. We're not having huge swings based on our property. It's a very narrow range around that 1%.

Mark Hughes
Analyst, Truist Securities

Yeah, that's helpful. How about on U.S. wholesale property pricing? You gave us some broader numbers, I think including retail. What's the wholesale experience been on the property?

Doug Howell
CFO, Arthur J. Gallagher & Company

You're going to see that as being a little bit more outside of that.

Mark Hughes
Analyst, Truist Securities

Okay.

Doug Howell
CFO, Arthur J. Gallagher & Company

I think that you're going to see that. That might be the tail. That's the tail that whips a little bit more.

Mark Hughes
Analyst, Truist Securities

Then if you looked at overall wholesale renewal premium, do you have a number you might share on that?

Doug Howell
CFO, Arthur J. Gallagher & Company

Listen, I'd have to dig out what we said in the scripts on that. Wholesale right now, depending on how you define wholesale, you've got open brokerage, you've got programs, you've got finding a business. That's running in kind of the mid to low single digits combined organically, unless Mike has a different.

Mike Pesch
U.S. CEO of Brokerage Services, Arthur J. Gallagher & Company

Yeah. Mark, I would just add. Where you're seeing maybe that be more impacted to the traditional flow of business, specifically from Gallagher into RPS, that does have an impact. The benefit of AssuredPartners, just in the last year, the premium trade into RPS from AP is up 129%. Submissions are up 182%, and RPS revenue connected to AP is up 95%. While you see some puts and calls relative to the traditional Gallagher business, the benefit of AP is making a big impact into RPS, and that's the beauty of doing a deal like that.

Mark Hughes
Analyst, Truist Securities

If I might just tack one on, where did you find $100 million in fraud in the risk management business?

Doug Howell
CFO, Arthur J. Gallagher & Company

I think it's one of those things, as we look at, Scott will actually. I don't think we can answer the customer, but it's basically fraud detection. Go ahead, Scott.

Scott Hudson
Global President and CEO, Gallagher Bassett

This one specifically, Mark, was all about fraud detection in the auto space specifically. They have a large exposure, and some new innovative ways, in particular, using AI that we were to detect it. Probably more importantly, they were aggressively pursuing it, which in partnership with them, it made a big difference.

Mark Hughes
Analyst, Truist Securities

Yeah, sounds like it. Thank you.

Doug Howell
CFO, Arthur J. Gallagher & Company

Thanks, Mark.

Operator

Our next question is from the line of Meyer Shields with KBW. Please proceed with your question.

Meyer Shields
Analyst, KBW

Thanks. Two-part follow-up for Doug first. Can you explain why it takes, I guess, three to five years for the revenue benefits of better service to show up? This is in the context of AI, and I'm wondering if you're seeing any initial attempted pushback from the carriers for whatever reason.

Doug Howell
CFO, Arthur J. Gallagher & Company

All right. You mixed up a couple things. Revenue benefits will take a little longer as it emerges into our hit rates. When we sell somebody today, if we use AI to help us sell, and sometimes that's an 18-month sales cycle. What I said is when the benefits come in to Gallagher, it'll take us three to five years to probably realize those numbers that I gave you earlier in my prepared remarks. Real reason why is that a lot of that has to do with span of control. When you come in as workloads of not the worker bees and not the leaders, but in that span of control layer that sits in the middle.

As we start to improve what the daily workers are doing then scrape that information to a reportable information in the span of control layer, it just takes a while for that to get implemented, and then for that span of control to increase. Again, we're going to do most of that with attrition. So as we expand out span of control, it just takes a while for us to put that in place. An example would be is, I don't know if I want AI to do wire transfers, but I have no problem with AI tabulating how many wire transfers, scanning it for quality control, scanning it for fraud, for doing that. I don't want AI actually doing it yet, but I don't have a problem with it being there tabulating and reporting out on what's happening.

That just takes a while to lay over the actual work layer.

Meyer Shields
Analyst, KBW

Okay, that's helpful. I guess question for Pat. You made the comment that you're growing faster in large account space. I guess I'm just curious because I would imagine that there's a greater gap in competence when you're competing with smaller brokers. Not to take anything away from Gallagher, when we look at the large account brokers, they seem stronger than I would imagine your typical storefront broker could be. I was hoping you could dig into that a little bit.

J. Patrick Gallagher Jr.
Chairman and CEO, Arthur J. Gallagher & Company

Let's not confuse the two. I'll let Mike answer in a second. I did not say that we're growing faster taking accounts away from our bigger competitors. I said our book of business and our new business is growing faster in the large account space, a lot of that is taking large accounts and pieces of large accounts away from the smaller brokers who don't deserve it in the first place.

Mike Pesch
U.S. CEO of Brokerage Services, Arthur J. Gallagher & Company

I would just add, Pat's exactly right. Our takeaway ratio, our win rate, against our larger competitors is about on par with our win rate, maybe when we look at it overall. I'll share just a quick story with you. We just picked up a really nice account here in Chicago, a six-figure account that had been with a local broker for 20 years, we came in and showed all the tools and resources that we could provide to this account. It was a gut-wrenching decision for the CEO of this company to fire what was one of his best friends. Back to Doug's point about the impact of AI, the impact of our tools and resources can take 18 months, two years, three years to unravel those relationships. We have to get someone fired to get hired.

That's a very difficult thing when you're talking about a 20-year relationship, the tools and resources, the tipping point of those continues to show itself in our win rate, whether it's a smaller competitor or a larger competitor.

Meyer Shields
Analyst, KBW

Okay. Thank you so much.

Mike Pesch
U.S. CEO of Brokerage Services, Arthur J. Gallagher & Company

Thanks, Meyer.

Operator

Thank you. Our last question is from the line of Robert Cox with Goldman Sachs. Please proceed with your question.

Robert Cox
Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Hey, thanks for fitting me in. First question, I just had a two-part question on the Middle East. The first part is, you talked about lower activity in some cases in the Middle East. I'm just curious, and I know it's not having a big impact, but curious what type of activities or products you're seeing delays and how that trended versus the first quarter. The second question is just if you think we might see some lagged inflation impacts kind of show up in RPC over the rest of the year from the Middle East conflict.

Patrick Gallagher
COO, Arthur J. Gallagher & Company

Well, it's a moving feast. This is Patrick, sorry. It's a moving feast. The biggest portion of our business that touches that is the London specialty team, the marine team, the aviation team. When I was talking about a slowdown, there has been a slowdown in aviation in the region, while there are war risks and other rate issues that drive revenues and exposures up, there is some delay in construction projects for energy construction. There's some delay in flying. There's also the marine that is insuring the boats in the Strait of Hormuz. It's a real moving feast. The delays are mainly in regard to aviation.

Doug Howell
CFO, Arthur J. Gallagher & Company

Yeah, I will add, just from Doug Howell, as we're looking at our organic outlook for the quarter when it comes to our London specialty and business, there is one large account that I'll be honest, I don't know if it's going to renew here on June or on July 1st. I don't know if it's going to be a June 30 placement or we'll get it put to bed in July, and that might be a $4 or $5 million flip between second quarter to third quarter. I think that overall, what we're feeling is, there's a lot of pent-up demand on our marine business, our aviation business. There could be some timing between quarters if that's what you were plumbing for on it, Rob.

I think the fact is the demand for our services is going to be even more, and I don't think rates are going to just drop down immediately because there's been a memo of understanding of what's going to take 60 days to get flushed out.

Robert Cox
Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Thanks. On the inflation piece, do you think that we might see that flow through in a bigger way over the rest of the year?

Doug Howell
CFO, Arthur J. Gallagher & Company

Well, listen, I think inflation causes pressure on replacement value. You know, you've heard me speak before that I'm not completely convinced that the carriers are done with their march to get properly paid on replacement costs across the sector. I think inflation puts pressure on medical. I think inflation puts pressure on replacement costs, on liability settlements. I just think that fundamentally, clients struggle with the impact of inflation because of their premiums go up, and that's where we're there to help them. I think that's our job, is to help them navigate through the inflation. I think there could be inflation pressures, but I'm not completely convinced that the business can't handle that in terms of the premium rates.

It might put a little bit of a floor in. If there's some rate-cutting pressure competition out there, it might put a floor on that pretty quickly.

J. Patrick Gallagher Jr.
Chairman and CEO, Arthur J. Gallagher & Company

One last comment before we get to my final remarks, Rob. It's really been interesting to me to look at our data, which I think is sensational data on our cancellations, our audits, and what's actually happening in our book of business, the resiliency of the middle market accounts literally across the world. You keep seeing things. We've got a war in Iran. We've got Israel and Lebanon at each other, you'd expect, oh my gosh, business has got to slow down. Our middle market businesses are robust. I think they've been able to deal with tariffs. They've been able to deal with inflation, and I think we're going to see continued growth in that area.

Robert Cox
Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Thanks for that. Just to follow up, one last question.

J. Patrick Gallagher Jr.
Chairman and CEO, Arthur J. Gallagher & Company

This will be the last.

Robert Cox
Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Yeah, fair enough. U.S. retail commercial auto renewal premium change, I think, accelerated 6 points quarter-over-quarter. I'm not sure if last quarter was just artificially compressed, just curious if there's anything to point out in terms of what's going on there.

J. Patrick Gallagher Jr.
Chairman and CEO, Arthur J. Gallagher & Company

Yeah, you got a lot of bad accidents and huge settlements.

Doug Howell
CFO, Arthur J. Gallagher & Company

Yeah, I don't think-

J. Patrick Gallagher Jr.
Chairman and CEO, Arthur J. Gallagher & Company

You got distracted driving and people running into each other.

Robert Cox
Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Got it. Thank you.

J. Patrick Gallagher Jr.
Chairman and CEO, Arthur J. Gallagher & Company

Thank you again, everybody, for joining us this morning. I think you heard the team today loud and clear that we're incredibly confident in our ability to execute and believe that we're very well positioned for continued long-term growth. So we look forward to speaking with you again after our second quarter in our earnings call this summer. Thanks for being with us today.

Doug Howell
CFO, Arthur J. Gallagher & Company

Thanks, everyone.

Operator

Thank you. This does conclude today's conference call. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.