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Earnings Call: Q1 2017

Apr 28, 2017

Operator

Good morning, welcome to the Arthur J. Gallagher & Co.'s first quarter 2017 earnings conference call. Participants have been placed on a listen-only mode. Your lines will be open for questions following the presentation. Today's call is being recorded. If you have any objections, you may disconnect at this time. Some of the comments made during this conference call, including answers given in response to questions, may constitute forward-looking statements within the meanings of the securities laws. These forward-looking statements are subject to certain risks and uncertainties that will be discussed on this call and which are also described in the company's reports filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Actual results may differ materially from those discussed today.

In addition, for reconciliations of the non-GAAP measures discussed on this call, as well as other information regarding the use of these measures, please refer to the most recent earnings release and other materials in the investor relations section of the company's website. It is now my pleasure to introduce J. Patrick Gallagher, Chairman, President, and CEO of Arthur J. Gallagher & Co. Mr. Gallagher, you may begin.

J. Patrick Gallagher, Jr.
Chairman, President, and CEO, Arthur J. Gallagher

Thank you, Donna. Good morning, everyone, thank you for joining us for our first quarter 2017 earnings call. With me this morning is Doug Howell, our Chief Financial Officer, as well as the heads of our operating divisions. As we do each quarter, today, Doug and I are going to touch on the four key components of our strategy to drive shareholder value. The first is organic growth. Secondly, growing through mergers and acquisitions. Thirdly, improving our productivity and quality, fourth, maintaining our very unique Gallagher culture. The team executed on all four of our strategic priorities this quarter and resulted in a strong first quarter. Even though our first quarter is seasonally our smallest, I believe this sets the stage for another outstanding year in 2017. Let me talk a little bit about the brokerage segment.

First quarter organic growth was 2.7% all in, with base commission and fee growth even a bit better than supplemental and contingent growth. The 4.8% organic in the first quarter of 2016 set a high hurdle to grow against this year, I'm extremely pleased with this quarter's growth. Domestic property and casualty organic growth was a little lower than our all-in organic, while international property and casualty was over 4%. Property and casualty rates globally continue to be a slight headwind, are being offset somewhat by exposure growth. Taken together, rate and exposure reduced our domestic property and casualty brokerage organic by about a point. We really haven't seen much of a change in the U.S. operating environment. Internationally, the rate environment varies more by geography. Pricing remains challenging in our London specialty unit, while U.K. retail continues to see modest pricing headwinds.

On a more favorable note, Australia and New Zealand appear to be turning the corner into positive rate territory. When combined with the modest economic growth, this is encouraging for our business. Our employee benefit and HR consulting business posted about 4% organic in the quarter. Our benefits teams remain focused on helping our clients navigate rising healthcare costs, uncertainties around the ACA, and the challenges of attracting, retaining, and motivating a global workforce. Our offering to clients and competitive position has never been stronger, as we have a winning combination of insights, tools, and service that our smaller competitors cannot match. When I look at organic going forward, I continue to see an environment much like 2016. There will naturally be some volatility from quarter to quarter, but right now, 2017 organic feels like it will end up being similar to 2016, or maybe even a little better.

Second, let me talk about merger and acquisition growth. We completed 12 acquisitions this quarter at fair multiples, representing about $63 million of annualized revenue. As we discussed on our last earnings call, we normally see a lull in activity during the first quarter, but we had a terrific start to the year, benefiting from prior year carryover and a very strong pipeline. I'd like to thank all of our new partners for joining us, and I extend a very warm welcome to our growing Gallagher family of professionals. As I look at our merger and acquisition pipeline report, I see about $350 million of revenue associated with over 50 term sheets either agreed upon or being prepared.

I've said in the past, not all these transactions will close, but our pipeline remains strong and is full of small tuck-in opportunities run by entrepreneurs with strong sales skills and excellent client relationships. Third, I want to spend some time on our productivity and quality efforts. I'm particularly pleased that our large merger integration efforts are effectively done. This quarter, we incurred less than $3 million of integration expense, down dramatically from the $14 million we spent in the first quarter of 2016. The team has done a fantastic job of getting through this final push of integration. Our Global Chief Service Officer discussed at our New York Investor Day in December, we now are setting our sights towards sharing and implementing our leading-edge service model developed in the U.S. with our units in the U.K., Canada, Australia, and New Zealand.

While never exactly the same country to country, we feel we can get our client service model fairly consistent across geographies. Over the next two to three years, we will leverage those skills and techniques to help our global units become more efficient, more productive, and also deliver the highest quality in the business. Let me wrap up the brokerage business with these stats. 8% total adjusted revenue growth on 2% organic, adjusted EBITDAC growth of 14%, an adjusted EBITDAC margin of 24.6%, up 121 basis points over the first quarter in 2016. A really solid start to the year for our brokerage team. I'd like to move to our risk management segment, which is primarily Gallagher Bassett. First quarter organic growth was 1.6%.

We delivered solid U.S. organic growth of 2.5%, while our international results were negatively impacted by a law change in one program in Australia. Essentially, the law capped the time an injured worker can receive benefits and cost us about $2.2 million of revenue this quarter, which is over a full percentage point of segment organic growth. The law change will likely be a headwind for our international business through year-end. We did have a number of new business wins in Australia that should allow us to post greater than 3% organic growth for the year. This past week, our Gallagher Bassett team was at the annual RIMS conference in Philadelphia. Through interactive claims experiences, we showcased our outcome-driven approach to claims management, utilizing our proprietary decision support and benchmarking tools.

It was a very successful RIMS conference, the team generated an extremely high level of client interest, including over 100 new prospect meetings. Our risk management team also recently completed a small acquisition in New Zealand. This new merger partner will round out our service capabilities in New Zealand with specialization in property and motor classes. Fourthly, in terms of productivity, the risk management team did a great job of holding expenses, allowing us to post adjusted margins of 17.1% in the quarter. This was solid execution by the team as we continue to make investments in innovative tools, new products, and the very best people, all aimed at driving superior claim outcomes for our clients and future growth. Now let me speak about our unique culture.

I'm very pleased that just a few weeks ago, we were recognized as one of the world's most ethical companies for the sixth consecutive year. We're honored to be one of only 124 companies globally to receive this award in 2017, and one of less than 70 companies to be recognized six years in a row by the Ethisphere Institute. Let me tell you, this award did not just happen by chance. We work hard to promote the values that were instilled in our company by my grandfather, Arthur J. Gallagher, when he founded Gallagher 90 years ago. These tenets, articulated in The Gallagher Way, continue to drive our global team's success today, we believe that our unique culture is a key differentiator and a competitive advantage. Okay, a strong quarter, great way to start off our year. I'll stop now and turn it over to Doug. Doug?

Douglas K. Howell
CFO, Arthur J. Gallagher

Thanks, Pat, good morning, everyone. Like Pat said, what a nice solid start to 2017. Today, I'm going to provide my typical commentary on modeling, margins, clean energy, M&A, and cash and capital management. Most of my comments will be using the CFO Commentary document, which is posted on our investor website. Let me point out a few things as you model the next three quarters of 2017. Starting on page two of the CFO Commentary, we've provided our guess on the impact from foreign currency exchange rates on both revenue and EPS based on current FX rates today. For brokerage, you'll see about a $20 million impact on revenue in the second quarter of 2017, but not much in the second half of this year. That doesn't translate into much impact on EPS.

About $0.01 or $0.02 drag in the second quarter, but next to nothing in Q3 and Q4. As for risk management, you'll see not much impact on revenue or EPS. Next, if you flip to page five of the CFO Commentary, we show you the roll-in revenues for the next three quarters for mergers that we closed through yesterday. You'll need to make a pick for revenues related to future mergers that we've not yet closed. Finally, I'd suggest that as you roll in revenues for future acquisitions, that you use the mid to late quarter closing assumptions in your models. You'll also notice on page five, and you heard Pat say just a minute or so ago, that Gallagher Bassett completed a nice little merger down in New Zealand, and we've given you those roll-in revenues, too.

Finally, as a reminder, remember to apply your organic growth pick to last year's revenues after adjusting for FX, but before roll-in for new M&A revenues. Let's move to margins. Adjusted brokerage, EBITDAC margin expanded 121 basis points in the quarter. That's really terrific work with organic growth hovering just around 3%. Our international operations led the way with really solid margin expansion in the quarter, and the retail teams in the U.K. and Australia are still hard at work improving their margins over the next couple of years. Looking forward, as I always say, it's tough to expand margins if organic isn't at 3%. Moving to integration. Pat said it, but it deserves mention again. Our international integration efforts are basically done. We only spent $3 million this quarter versus $14 million last year first quarter.

Looking forward, we have just a few small IT projects that are wrapping up by the end of the year that might cost us about $0.01 or so a quarter. Again, excellent work by our international folks for posting solid organic, expanding margins, all the while putting finishing touches on our integration efforts. Moving to the risk management segment. Posting EBITDAC margin of 17.1% keeps us in the running for a full year pushing 17.5%. The team did some really good work to hold their expenses and overcome the first quarter revenue headwind Pat talked about down in Australia. That said, you heard Pat say, we do have a strong new business pipeline in Australia that should help us a lot towards the end of the year. Moving to clean energy.

Even with a warmer winter than normal, we had a solid first quarter with net after-tax earnings coming right around the midpoint of their estimate. You also see on page three of the CFO Commentary that we didn't change our outlook much for full year 2017. We're still forecasting a nice step up from 2016. There is a little bit of movement in our estimates between the second, third, and the fourth quarter, so please adjust your models accordingly. As for tax credits on our balance sheet, effectively are receivable from the government. At March 31st, we have over $500 million, which will help reduce our future cash taxes paid for many years to come, perhaps even past 2025. One thing to highlight on the corporate line within the corporate segment, the midpoint of our guidance was an after-tax loss of about $6.5 million.

We beat that by about $3 million. All of the beat versus our guidance comes from more income tax benefit from the new accounting standard for income taxes related to employee stock-based compensation. In other words, we had more stock option exercises than we forecasted in the first quarter, resulting in more tax gains. As for cash, first quarter tends to be our smallest cash generation quarter. At the end of the quarter, we had over $300 million of available cash. Our efforts to unlock our bank account consolidation efforts and wind down integration efforts are clearly working. As for mergers and acquisitions, we used about 260,000 shares this quarter for tax structured exchanges. Recall, we pre-bought those shares mid-2016. You also see on page two of the CFO Commentary that our weighted average multiple crept up to about 8.5 times.

There were a couple specialty shops that commanded a slightly higher multiple this quarter. As I look at our pipeline, I see us coming in for the year below eight times, and it looks like we can fund deals in 2017 with cash and debt. Those are my comments. Solid organic, great M&A, terrific margin expansion, and an excellent cash position. A really solid first quarter that sets us up nicely for the rest of 2017. Back to you, Pat.

J. Patrick Gallagher, Jr.
Chairman, President, and CEO, Arthur J. Gallagher

Thank you, Doug. Donna, I think we're ready to go for some questions and answers.

Operator

Thank you. The call is now open for questions. If you have a question, please pick up your handset and press star one on your telephone at this time. If you are on speakerphone, please disable that function prior to pressing star one to ensure optimum sound quality. You may remove yourself from the queue at any point by pressing star two. Again, that's star one for questions. Our first question is coming from Kai Pan of Morgan Stanley. Please proceed with your question.

Kai Pan
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Thank you, and good morning.

J. Patrick Gallagher, Jr.
Chairman, President, and CEO, Arthur J. Gallagher

Good morning, Kai.

Kai Pan
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

First question on the expense ratio reduction in the brokerage segment. If you look back since the third quarter 2014, your quarterly run rate about $140 million. Pretty consistent despite you being growing your business. Could you talk a bit about how to control that expense? Can you keep the same level here going forward, that you will have natural leverage as you grow your top line?

Douglas K. Howell
CFO, Arthur J. Gallagher

Yeah, great question, Kai. Yeah, our operating expense ratio and then just the absolute amount, the team's done a terrific job as we start to take our sourcing initiatives, our real estate initiatives, leveraging our IT. Even this quarter, our ability to go out and source our office supplies contributed in the quarter. You'll see us being able to hold that operating expense ratio into the future as our sourcing efforts. We're getting great traction in Australia and in the U.K., using a lot of the techniques that they're good at, we're good at, and together we've done a really good job of controlling those expenses.

Kai Pan
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Okay. Even at sort of like a low to mid-single digits organic growth, like below 3% organic growth, if we can help baseline, we'll still be able to see some margin expansion?

Douglas K. Howell
CFO, Arthur J. Gallagher

Well, I don't know. I've always said that it's tough to expand margins if you don't have 3% organic growth in the brokerage space. We've done it. If we have prolonged 3%, yeah, maybe there's margin expansion in there.

Kai Pan
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Okay. Second question is on your contingent and supplements. In the past two year, been growing year-over-year about, if you add them together, about 15%, this quarter is kind of flat year-over-year. I just wonder anything on that behind it? Because it's high margin business, even the slowing down, would that impact any sort of potential margin expansion?

Douglas K. Howell
CFO, Arthur J. Gallagher

Yeah, good question. Last year, we had a nice step-up in our supplementals and contingents in the first quarter that contributed to the 4.8% organic. Our base last year, I believe, if my memory's right, was about 3.5%. Our base this year is 2.9%. It's not all that dissimilar on the base commission and fees year-to-year. Supplementals and contingents, again, geography between the two, I wouldn't worry about that too much. In total, I think the step-up after last year and holding it this year was good work. We still believe that there are opportunities for us, especially as we continue to buy businesses to roll them into our supplemental and contingent programs. I think our relationships with the carriers are really good right now. I see that line kind of being consistently growing, but it's always going to be a little bit lumpy.

Kai Pan
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Okay. Lastly, just quick one, and on the clean coal. For 2017, looks like you're on track to achieve 10% year-over-year growth. Do you have any sense about 2018?

Douglas K. Howell
CFO, Arthur J. Gallagher

Not at this time. We need to look at coal consumption. Our plants are running well. I don't really have a thought about that right now, Kai.

Kai Pan
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Okay, great. Thank you so much.

Douglas K. Howell
CFO, Arthur J. Gallagher

Thank you, Kai.

Operator

Once again, that is star one to register any questions at this time. Our next question is coming from Elyse Greenspan of Wells Fargo. Please proceed with your question.

Elyse Greenspan
Analyst, Wells Fargo

Hi, good morning.

Douglas K. Howell
CFO, Arthur J. Gallagher

Good morning, Elyse.

Elyse Greenspan
Analyst, Wells Fargo

I wanted to follow up on some of the comments you gave in terms of organic growth. You guys printed around a three in the Q1. Pat, your comments imply you'll come in about last year's level, which was 3.6%. I guess, how do you envision the step-up as we go through the remainder of the year? As you think about getting 2017 looking like 2016, how do you see the components moving forward domestically and internationally, especially as you point to the market potentially turning harder in Australia and New Zealand? One other question on that front, did you say what the wholesale organic growth was in the quarter?

J. Patrick Gallagher, Jr.
Chairman, President, and CEO, Arthur J. Gallagher

I didn't mention it. Let me take a look at that.

Douglas K. Howell
CFO, Arthur J. Gallagher

I'll answer the first part here.

J. Patrick Gallagher, Jr.
Chairman, President, and CEO, Arthur J. Gallagher

Yeah. Let me answer the first part of your question, Elyse. First of all, over the last few years, as you know, we've built a much more balanced portfolio. We now are one of the bigger players in New Zealand, Australia, Canada, and U.K. We get the benefit of that balance. Organic in the U.S. this past, in the property casualty area, was a struggle this quarter. I think we're going to see some improvement there. I also think we'll see some improvement in organic at Gallagher Bassett as the year unfolds. Our benefits business was particularly strong in the quarter. I see that continuing to strengthen. Australia and New Zealand were strong, Canada was strong.

With that balance, and really what I'm seeing in the rate environment is when I say that we're down one percentage point from rate and exposure, that's a great market for us. Really, we've been almost flat with regard to rates, with some up, some down. Property in particular over the last four years has been down significantly. By and large, we have not seen the swings in the property casualty market over the last five to six, seven years that we've seen for the last 40 years. I think that's a great environment for our people to be out producing, and I think that we'll have a good new business year. We've got a very strong pipeline. I can look at that in Salesforce. The bottom line, it just feels like last year.

I think we will probably do about the same as we did last year, maybe even a little better.

Douglas K. Howell
CFO, Arthur J. Gallagher

Yeah. On the wholesale side, Elyse, first of all, let's define wholesale. When you look at our program business, our program business was basically flat. We have some commercial auto in there that the markets are shifting on that. You've seen that in some of the carrier's reports. As markets come in and out, that's flat, so they held in there nicely. Our open brokerage, I think, was over 5% for the quarter, then our binding businesses were somewhere around 3%-4%, something like that. We had good results across our wholesaling platform other than maybe in the program business. All in maybe in the mid 2s.

Elyse Greenspan
Analyst, Wells Fargo

Okay, great. In terms of thinking about the organic for the remaining three quarters, do you guys have a view, kind of following up on the earlier question in terms of how the growth you might see in the supplementals and contingents? They did see strong growth in the Q1 last year, but a bit more even throughout the year. As you think about the organic growth for the out three quarters, do you think that the growth within supplementals and contingents will pick up?

Douglas K. Howell
CFO, Arthur J. Gallagher

I think it'll outpace base commissions and fees. I think that in total, supplementals and commissions will actually contribute to more organic growth relative than how it did this quarter. Also, one of the things about organic growth, other than maybe a year or two, in the last 10 years, our first quarter organic growth has historically been the lowest organic growth quarter. Not just seasonality, but in percentage-wise of organic growth. Last year that wasn't the case, and maybe one other year in the last five it wasn't. We feel as we look out, property we don't see as much as a headwind this year as we come into the second quarter. Of course, that can always change. That's why we feel that this year should end up like last year or maybe a little better.

Elyse Greenspan
Analyst, Wells Fargo

Okay. In terms of the margin within the brokerage business, the 120 basis points was pretty strong in the quarter. From your comments, I know you pointed to pretty strong international margin expansion, but it doesn't seem like it's anything that's one time in nature that would potentially cause us not to see a good level of margin improvement when we think about going forward, right? There wasn't anything really one time in the numbers?

Douglas K. Howell
CFO, Arthur J. Gallagher

Not really, no. I think it's just steady improvement. Our international folks are doing a terrific job of bringing the franchises together, working hard about we understand that there's synergies and there's economies of scale, and they're doing a good job of getting after it.

Elyse Greenspan
Analyst, Wells Fargo

Okay. One last question, if I might, on the deal front. You guys mentioned pretty strong pipeline there. Have you seen any change in private equity interest in the group? I know last quarter we kind of speculated what potential tax changes could do to deal prices as well as interest in the brokerage space. Have you seen any of that play out, or are we kind of waiting to see actually how tax changes in the U.S. will take shape?

J. Patrick Gallagher, Jr.
Chairman, President, and CEO, Arthur J. Gallagher

No, I don't see any hesitation out there, Elyse. This is a frothy market. There is a lot of private equity money that wants to be in the brokerage space. Every single deal that is going to have a private equity competitor, it's going to be a fiercely fought deal.

Douglas K. Howell
CFO, Arthur J. Gallagher

Frankly also, Elyse, to those that we're actually courting and those that are actually merging with us have decided that they want to be with a strategic. They want our capabilities. They want our resources. They don't want to be a part of a roll-up. They're looking to sell insurance with us. They believe that their family and our family together will be better. Yes, there's price competition out there, and of course, that always keeps it interesting at the negotiation table. By and large, we're looking for those partners that want to take a fair price to come sell insurance together with us.

Elyse Greenspan
Analyst, Wells Fargo

Okay. Thank you very much.

J. Patrick Gallagher, Jr.
Chairman, President, and CEO, Arthur J. Gallagher

Thank you, Elise.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is coming from Adam Klauber of William Blair. Please go ahead, sir.

Adam Klauber
Analyst, William Blair

Thanks. Morning, everyone.

J. Patrick Gallagher, Jr.
Chairman, President, and CEO, Arthur J. Gallagher

Good morning, Adam.

Adam Klauber
Analyst, William Blair

Pat, I think you mentioned that the impact to the economy or exposure is pretty much level, if I heard correctly. Are there some regional differences where some regions are actually helping, where some are more neutral?

J. Patrick Gallagher, Jr.
Chairman, President, and CEO, Arthur J. Gallagher

Oh, I can't really pick out too much on that, Adam. I think probably the West Coast is getting a good lift. We still, I think, are seeing some decrease in the whole energy play in the South in the oil fields. Northeast seems okay and Midwest is fine. I think that bottom line, we're just feeling that our customers, their businesses are in pretty good shape. We had a board meeting this week, and we invited a customer to come in. The board had asked to meet someone that actually worked with us, and he was a small manufacturer locally, about $100, $150 million manufacturing firm, U.S.-based. They do fire suppression work, sprinkler systems, things like that. He was very bullish on his opportunities. I think I see that when I bump into customers across the whole spectrum.

Adam Klauber
Analyst, William Blair

Okay. On the benefits side, I think you said the growth there is doing well. With some of the noise about ACA repeal and obviously change in administration, has there been any slowdown in the decision making or just clients pulling back saying, "We just want to wait till we see what's going to happen"? Would you say the market proceeding more along normal lines?

J. Patrick Gallagher, Jr.
Chairman, President, and CEO, Arthur J. Gallagher

No, I think the market's proceeding along normal. Well, let's put it this way. I don't think that market's seen normal since the ACA was instituted.

Adam Klauber
Analyst, William Blair

Right.

J. Patrick Gallagher, Jr.
Chairman, President, and CEO, Arthur J. Gallagher

We've got 30-plus people in our compliance department. Most of them are lawyers, that is all around having to help our customers comply with all these regulations across the board. At the same time, they're trying to balance that with the problem they've got of cost increases, with the problem they've got with the war for talent. That is right at the heart of what we do for our clients, and there's no stepping back from that. That's a constant concern, and it provides us with basically constant opportunities.

Adam Klauber
Analyst, William Blair

Okay.

J. Patrick Gallagher, Jr.
Chairman, President, and CEO, Arthur J. Gallagher

Frankly, Adam, the beauty about it is the small guys can't do it, right? We're doing acquisitions in the benefits space, and frankly, I can tell when they come in, when I meet them, if they have met our compliance people or not. Because when they come in, to be perfectly honest, they're cocky about the ACA. They know it, they can handle it. They're working with Ernst & Young or Deloitte. Once they've met our compliance people, they're scared. It's a whole different deal. They go, "Oh, we're supposed to be advising our clients on all of that?" It's a great opportunity for us. Couldn't be better.

Adam Klauber
Analyst, William Blair

Okay. On U.S. retail, nice, the acquisitions have picked up. How about growth in the producer force aside from acquisitions? Are you growing the force? Is it more?

J. Patrick Gallagher, Jr.
Chairman, President, and CEO, Arthur J. Gallagher

Yeah, no, absolutely

Adam Klauber
Analyst, William Blair

I know you always have a training program. Sorry, didn't mean to cut you off. Is it more from the training program, or are you actually hiring from the outside, or both?

J. Patrick Gallagher, Jr.
Chairman, President, and CEO, Arthur J. Gallagher

Well, we're growing our producer headcount three ways. First of all, I'm really excited. We're coming into June, and we're going to have 400 kids domestically in our internship program. We're going to introduce 400 new young, bright people to this industry, and I'm hopeful that we'll hire a good portion of those. That's number one. By the way, that's domestic. If you add the additional about 100 globally that we'll do. We'll end up introducing about 500 young adults to this business. The second way we grow producer count, of course, is through acquisitions, and you guys can see that every day, every week. Of course, we're out looking for new people. About two years ago, we started a program that we call HireRight.

HireRight is an effort to go out and find really good salespeople that are not in the insurance business. They can sell copiers, pharma, whatever it might be. Find people that have no car reluctance, that really like to get in front of people and sell and teach them insurance. That has gone extremely well for us and is adding to our organic headcount in the producer force. I feel really good about that.

Adam Klauber
Analyst, William Blair

Can you give us just a ballpark? Should the producer force acquisitions grow in a 2%-3% range, or is that a little too much?

J. Patrick Gallagher, Jr.
Chairman, President, and CEO, Arthur J. Gallagher

I don't have a number, Adam.

Adam Klauber
Analyst, William Blair

Okay. Thanks a lot.

J. Patrick Gallagher, Jr.
Chairman, President, and CEO, Arthur J. Gallagher

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is coming from Mark Hughes of SunTrust Robinson Humphrey. Please go ahead.

Mark Hughes
Analyst, SunTrust Robinson Humphrey

Yeah, thank you. Good morning.

J. Patrick Gallagher, Jr.
Chairman, President, and CEO, Arthur J. Gallagher

Good morning, Mark.

Mark Hughes
Analyst, SunTrust Robinson Humphrey

What about tax reform? Any early thoughts on what that could mean for the Clean Coal business?

Douglas K. Howell
CFO, Arthur J. Gallagher

Mark, just repeat your question. You kind of broke up on us.

Mark Hughes
Analyst, SunTrust Robinson Humphrey

Yeah, sorry. Any early thoughts on what tax reform could mean for the corporate segment, for the Clean Energy business?

Douglas K. Howell
CFO, Arthur J. Gallagher

Yeah. Actually, on the CFO Commentary, we republished our pro forma where we took 2016 and we ran it assuming a 20% federal tax rate. We did that pro forma for you. We published it in January. It's still out there. We didn't update it, but the pro forma on history doesn't change that much. How do I feel about on the tax credit strategy? I believe that the credits that we have will continue to have value going forward. I believe that it's a credit, it's not a deduction. A dollar under old written tax and under new tax is the same. Overall, even with tax reform, we're going to reduce our taxes even more because if AMT goes away, we'll actually be able to use our credits even more. I feel good about it.

I think we've got a good inventory of credits that have a long life on it. We have the ability to produce more credits also going forward. Remember, this law sunsets on credits in 2021. We've got four more years of generation on it, but I think that that will create an inventory and a warehouse that could stretch well into the late '20s.

Mark Hughes
Analyst, SunTrust Robinson Humphrey

Okay. That's safe. Any comments on line by line? You had pointed out, I think that the Property wasn't as much of a headwind. Anything else you would call out as being particularly strong or weak from your perspective lately here?

J. Patrick Gallagher, Jr.
Chairman, President, and CEO, Arthur J. Gallagher

I think first of all, the world of risk is certainly growing every single quarter. Right now, I think the one that gives us the most opportunity and the most concern is cyber. Cyber's a very strong offering and something that all of our clients really need. Property, as you know, has been down significantly over the last four years and now is really kind of relatively flat. Transportation is a bit of an issue. It's an issue to our clients. Those prices are going up. I think I'd look across regular general liability, umbrella, et cetera, is basically flat.

Douglas K. Howell
CFO, Arthur J. Gallagher

I think just piling on, just to give you some actual numbers. If you go back to first quarter 2016, commercial property by illustration was off, according to our data here, 5.1%, and this quarter, we saw it only off 1.4%. If you look at marine was down 5% in the fourth quarter of 2015. It was actually up 1.7% this quarter. Package is flat. Commercial auto is flat. Professional lines is flat. Workers' comp shows a little bit of an uptick this one quarter. You're kind of seeing that in the charts here on where rates are that I'm not giving you quarter-over-quarter negative. I'm giving more flats or slightly up.

Mark Hughes
Analyst, SunTrust Robinson Humphrey

Very helpful. I'll have to ask, any thought on claims trends within the risk management business? If you think about the kind of U.S. workers' comp business, what do you see?

J. Patrick Gallagher, Jr.
Chairman, President, and CEO, Arthur J. Gallagher

See claim trends up about 1%.

Douglas K. Howell
CFO, Arthur J. Gallagher

Yeah, our U.S. business was up 2.2% in the quarter, so overall.

Mark Hughes
Analyst, SunTrust Robinson Humphrey

Very good. Thank you.

J. Patrick Gallagher, Jr.
Chairman, President, and CEO, Arthur J. Gallagher

Thank you, Mark. Anybody else, Donna?

Operator

Not at this time, sir. Do you have any closing comments today?

J. Patrick Gallagher, Jr.
Chairman, President, and CEO, Arthur J. Gallagher

Yes, I do. Thank you. I'd like to thank everyone again for being with us this morning. We believe we started off 2017 on an excellent footing, and our focus remains on executing on each component of our value creation strategy. We will grow organically. We're going to grow through acquiring the best mergers. We will improve our quality and productivity, and we're going to invest in what we believe is a strategic advantage, which is our unique culture. Thanks for being with us today. We appreciate it.

Operator

Thank you. This does conclude today's teleconference. You may disconnect your lines at this time, and have a wonderful day.