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Status Update
Oct 29, 2012
Good afternoon.
Thank you for being here. I'm Colette LaForest, Chief Marketing Officer of AMD and we want to welcome you on this very historic day. A special thanks to our partners, customers, press, Analyst and all of you watching on the web, we appreciate you joining us. Before we get started, I want to turn your attention to a slide here that describes the fact that we may be mentioning forward looking statements today. And with that, we'll start we'll get started and I want to introduce Rory Reid, our President and CEO.
Rory?
Hello, everyone, and thank you for joining us today on this historic day. I think it is a key moment in the industry. I don't think there's any doubt about it. Today is about what AMD really is at our core And it's in our DNA to innovate and to think about what's next. We look to disrupt the status quo.
We look forward to drive the industry to where it needs to go to inspire competition And to enable our customers to do more, AMD will transform the data center computing environment today as we announced We're the 1st company to offer both 64 bit ARM and x86 Server Processors. Yes, I like that too. There's no doubt that the cloud changes everything. In today's modern data center, it needs more change than probably anywhere in the industry. And the cloud truly is the killer app that's unlocking the future.
It's driving the fastest level of growth across the industry. Over the last 10 years, the last decade, we've seen an annual increase of about 33% in CapEx spending in the data center Officer. At AMD, we have the IP, the experience and the engineering talent to disrupt, Dense serving is the key to our long term strategy and growth. We talked about this And we're going to continue to pave the path to success by providing our customers with that differentiated solution that changes the game. Officer.
We've talked about an ambidextrous architecture. What we're doing here just as we did with AMD 64 in the last decade We're going to open up a next level of computing with ARM64, transforming the server area into a Whole new opportunity, creating differentiated IP across an agile and bidetrics architecture Officer. With reusable IP blocks that allow us to deliver lower cost solutions on a faster timeline, Officer. Unlocking the computing power of the server environment with our HSA, Heterogeneous Systems Architecture That allows you to run the workloads on the CPU and the GPU where they run best. We are uniquely positioned to lead in this era of cloud servers.
We have a full suite of X86 Processors, IP graphics and now ARM processor cores. We'll couple that with our C Micro Freedom Fabric. Now that C Micro Freedom Fabric is ultimately very, very important in this announcement. It is the only production ready, Production tested supercompute fabric on the planet and it differentiates our offerings from others As it combines both ARM based servers and X86 solutions, we have years of experience in the server market. This is not new to AMD.
It is in our DNA to innovate. We have the expertise, the engineering capability And of course, the customer and partner relationships. Now it's really important, if you think about Why did we choose to go in this space? What I think is important is about the partnership that we create with ARM. Why together?
Because ARM shares that same deep passion for innovation, that drive to look for what's next. They don't accept the status quo. They want to change the future. They want to create a future that's differentiated, where the customer has choice, where the Customer can ultimately create a high speed, fast solution at the right price point that unlocks the future. Arm and AMD together can change the industry landscape, can drive true competition And spur the next level of server innovation.
We share a common vision that where the industry is going, How we can disrupt it together and ultimately how we can lead this transformation. I think it's a pretty exciting day. And in summary, you have to think about it. When are these seminal moments in the industry? When do they occur?
Maybe they're not as always as obvious as they are, Officer. Just like AMD 64, that's this moment right here. AMD is the only computing company on the planet That's introducing this ambidextrous architecture spanning both ARM and X86 ecosystems. It's the right place, the right teams coming together to create the right solution in this next era of cloud level serving computing Officer at the Mega Data Center. And we believe in concert with our customers and our partners and critical ecosystem members, We will usher in the next era of server computing.
Now it's pretty exciting day, no doubt. And I have a good friend at ARM, Warren East, the CEO. Now Warren wanted to be here, but he was flying from London, Interesting enough. And he called last night about 7 o'clock as I was in the airport. He said, Rory, I'm coming to San Francisco through New York.
And I said, Warren, That's probably not a good plan because Hurricane Sandy is there. He says, I'm not going to be able to make it. I said, I'm going to get here later in the afternoon. I really want to be part of this. I said, Warren, hey, you've gone out of your way.
This partnership we've been working on over the past year, we've been Building this relationship, we've been trying to innovate and create this next future together. I understand this is out of your control. Warren said, maybe there's a way. I said, well, I got to get on the plane. So I flew across to California.
I landed here and I got off the plane and I hear Warren's going to do a video. Warren's doing a video in a taxi at the Heathrow Airport this morning. That's the kind of partner Warren East is. That's the kind of leader he is and he sees this same future that we do at AMD.
Officer. I'd like to run a video of
Warren East, the CEO of ARM.
Good afternoon. I'm Warren East. I'm CEO at ARM. Officer. In the back of the taxi at Heathrow Airport.
Now to start with, let me begin by welcoming AMD to the ARM partnership Officer. AMD adopted the Cortex A5 for use in security earlier this year. But with today's announcement, We have AMD laying out their plans for ARM technology in the service space. ARM, as you know, has a long heritage And all of the mobile and non mobile Internet connected devices are today putting huge demands on data centers, Driving up the requirement for ever more data capacity in these centers, driving up the demand for more and more servers. And all of these servers take huge amounts of energy, require huge amounts of energy for cooling and so on.
And a new methodology is required. AMD have a lot of expertise in the server domain and combining that expertise with the Highly efficient, highly integrated system on chip technology from ARM looks like a good way forward for Officer. And in particular, the software ecosystem required in the server space makes a great match. We look forward to the transformational effect that AMD's presence with ARM in the server domain is going to have in that environment over the coming years. Welcome to AMD.
Thank you, Warren. And there's no doubt that's a true partner. That's an innovator. He doesn't take no for an answer. He found a way to be here with us today.
Officer. And as he said, Warren said, we are excited about this opportunity and expanding our work together. We believe together, We are uniquely positioned to truly change the industry. It won't happen overnight, but it's a journey that we've begun over the past year And we're going to continue step by step to move through that. With that, I'd like to introduce Doctor.
Lisa Su, Officer, our Senior Vice President, General Manager of Global Business Units, who will talk about our product plans in more detail. Lisa? Thanks, Roy. Thank you.
Officer. Thanks everyone for being here. I'm really, really excited this afternoon to talk in a bit more detail about what we're doing together with ARM to really transform the data center. And if you really look at what are we trying to do, what's the problem that we're trying to solve, Officer. You heard it from Warren.
You heard it from Rory. It's that the data center is now being inundated with massive amounts of data and there has to be a way to do it more efficiently in smaller space with less power at a better cost point. That is the problem that we're trying to solve together as an industry and that is what we're trying to lead here at AMD. Officer. So first, let's take a look at what's happening in the market dynamics.
I think the market dynamics are very clear. It's the explosion of devices with the advent Office, smartphone, iPads, new business models, Google, Facebook, eBay, all of these cloud computing workloads are putting tremendous, tremendous Screen on the data center. Just last week, Cisco posted their latest global Internet outlook and they showed that data is going to grow in the data center at Officer. Over 30% CAGR for the next 5 years, 5 years plus and we'll be at over 6 zettabytes of data in the data center. Officer.
That's a tremendous amount of data that we're processing and it's really changing the way we think about data center economics and data center dynamics. Officer. Here at AMD, we have a history of really trying to revolutionize the data center and what really moves innovation forward. Officer. Back in 2003, we were the first to introduce 64 bit x86 architecture into the data center.
We were the first to introduce dual processors in 2,005. We moved to the petabyte supercomputer in 2,008. And earlier this year, when we did a very important acquisition, many of you asked why is AMD buying C Micro? Officer. C Micro was a systems company.
We were a chip company. C Micro was a startup. We were known for our consumer devices. But we really have this vision of We're really looking at where does technology really need to go as we look over the next 5 years. And the data center is Fundamentally, where we think the growth is going to be and where the innovation is going to be.
So C Micro brought to AMD world class leading edge fabric, Officer, Systems and Software Expertise as well as hardware expertise. And today, I'm really, really happy to talk about the next part of our data and our strategy, which is something that we've been working on for quite some time. And it's really the announcement around production based ARM servers based on AMD NC Micro Technology. We will be launching these products in 2014. We believe we will be at the leading edge of ARM based servers in 64 bit.
We have something that is very differentiated. In addition to all of our microprocessor and technology IP and expertise, we have the best Compute Fabric in the industry with the C Micro Compute Fabric and integrating these two pieces together will give us an opportunity to really Officer. Accelerate the adoption of Arm in the data center. When you think about what that means in terms of the data center, I'm going to show you a set of workloads and the Biggest change in the data center is there is no one size fits all. So we will offer ARM based CPUs with our fabric.
We will offer X86 based CPUs with our fabric and we will also look at opportunities where we can merge the CPU technology together with graphics compute in an APU form factor that will be very, very good for specific workloads and servers as well. And so AMD will be the only company Officer that's able to offer the full range of compute horsepower for the right workloads in the data center. Officer. So let me take you through some of the thinking and how we think this is all going to come together. One of the main points about why things haven't really evolved that much up until now Has been that the last two decades, everything has been around, let's call it, homogeneous workloads.
It's been around traditional IT. Officer. So the idea of how do you make a data center more efficient has been let's put more CPU horsepower, let's increase frequency, Officer. Let's increase just base processing power for homogeneous workloads. But that world is changing now.
All of these mobile devices and all of these new business models from the e commerce to the e business workloads coming in. And what those workloads have done are, as I said, they've shown a tremendous amount of strain in the data center. So we're adding lots and lots more data that we expect to move Officer around at a minute's notice, but it's also created opportunity because many of these web workloads are actually highly paralyzable. Officer. And what that means is we can break up their tasks over numerous CPUs so that we can do them in a much more efficient way.
Officer. This is the change that allows us to introduce new technology. ARM CPUs are particularly efficient for these types of workloads. ARM CPUs have really had a history in the consumer market from smartphones through mobile devices through embedded. It is really a standard out there in the industry.
And what it does is it allows us to really optimize and leverage all of that compute per dollar and compute per watt Officer that comes from the consumer ecosystem. These CPUs are particularly beneficial for these new workloads in the web and Officer in the massive data centers and this is where we think that ARM will excel. Now you should say, okay, ARM is a good choice. Officer. Why ARM plus AMD?
AMD has had a history of innovation in the data center. We believe in technology innovation and technology leadership. We've been shipping Opteron based AMD Processors for over 10 years. We serve every major customer in the server business. Officer.
We have world class 64 bit microprocessor technology and we continue to extend that in both X86 and now in the ARM world. There are many things about servers that are different from the consumer world and the enterprise class IP being able to ensure that we understand the quality, the reliability OpEx. The design tools, the platform aspects to serve the enterprise, we think are very, very beneficial to really accelerating the adoption of Arm Officer in the data center. And then finally and most importantly, the fabric technology is the secret sauce. This is what will make AMD's solution different Officer from other vendors that will be offering ARM based systems in the data center.
So let me talk to you a little bit about the fabrics and how we think about fabrics, because it really is something that's very, very synergistic to all the problems that we've been talking about today. Officer. We said that ARM CPUs have an advantage because they are very, very power efficient. They're small, they're capable. We can put parallelized workloads Officer on 100 and thousands of CPUs.
The problem is if you connect those CPUs directly to the network, you've just moved the problem from the processor over to the Officer over to the network side. And you won't be able to realize the total system cost of ownership reduction that you're trying to do. The fabric technology really enables you to really connect lots of efficient CPUs together into a cluster, Officer. So that you're able to link those clusters efficiently into the network. In essence, they really unlock the power of these Office.
So with the C Micro acquisition being now part of AMD, we have continued to evolve this fabric technology. We just recently announced A couple of months ago, our C Micro 15000 Series, which is the first product that introduces both Officer. Additional horsepower as well as AMD Optron based solutions. We're going to embed this fabric in our ARM based CPU offerings. Officer.
This is the only fabric that's production tested. It's been in the field for over 2 years. We've run millions of hours and we are trialing this Officer at many of the large mega data center customers in the world. We believe that the technology together with ARM's technology Officer. So going forward, how do we look at the data center and how does it really shape up?
It really is the idea of there is no one size fits all. So we don't want to say A is better than B or B is better than C. We want to ensure that we have the right product for the right workload for the right problem that we're trying to solve. Officer. When we're in these web and enterprise applications, this is a particularly fast moving part of the industry.
This is where you're going to hear from Officer. Our friends at Facebook a little bit later, you can tell that there's so much innovation happening here. They're also at the leading edge and able to adopt new technology. This is an ideal place to use ARM and really bring up ARM based servers as well as X86 CPUs. When you're in the traditional compute with compute clusters Where there's a lot of legacy code, you probably will stick with X86 CPUs and we'll continue to offer leading edge X86 CPUs in that framework.
And then in some of these specialty workloads like media clusters, online gaming, streaming media, these areas really offer tremendous opportunity for APUs that connect both CPUs with graphics compute technology also very relevant and high performance computing workloads. So the answer is the data center is undergoing fundamental change. It is important to be able to use the right problem for the right workload Officer and both ARM and X86 have very complementary and important roles in that ecosystem to come. Probably the largest question that many people have had about ARM is when is the 64 bit ecosystem going to get there? How is that going to get come together?
We're going to have a very interesting discussion following my talk, which really brings some of the ecosystem partners together. Officer. It is true that ARM has a great client ecosystem today and you'll see that there's a lot of interest by end customers for bringing ARM into the data center. Officer. And the key is there's disruptive cost, disruptive power advantages for doing that.
But we need to make sure the ecosystem comes with that. We need to make sure Officer comes with that. We need to make sure that the operating systems, the tools, the compilers, all of the total suite are there. And AMD is committed, Officer absolutely committed to making sure that that happens. We've shown that we could do that with the 64 bit x86 ecosystem And we are together with ARM and our partners going to do that for the 64 bit ARM ecosystem.
And this is one of those things that Officer. The advantages will really drive the industry to move faster than what normally you would do. Officer. So with that, let me summarize. I will say it's a happy day today to be able to really share with you some of what we're doing in terms of innovation in the data center.
I think we have really put together a fantastic group of people to talk to you about why we think this is important. There are very few times in industry when you Officer. This is one of those times for us to lead, for us to bring the industry to a better point and that's what we're committed to do here at AMD. Thank you very much for your attention. Officer.
So I gave you a little bit of background of what we're thinking, but very, very important is what the industry is thinking. And so we've collected a panel here today Officer of several very esteemed members of the industry who are actively working in the area of servers, data centers and the overall ARM ecosystem. So joining me on the panel today is Simon Segers. Simon is Executive Vice President and General Manager of Processor and Physical IP for ARM. He basically runs all of the processor and IP for ARM.
He is both a great partner and a great friend. So Simon, thank you for joining us. Officer.
Thank you.
Okay. We also have Jimmy Pike, who is Vice President and Senior Fellow from Dell Data Center Solutions. Jimmy is an absolute expert in cloud computing and data center architectures and he's made very significant contributions to Dell's enterprise solutions. I also consider him one of the foremost experts. So I call Jimmy when I have a question and what to do and I'm really happy to have him join us here today.
Officer. Thank you. Thanks, Jameis.
Jake Parikh is the Vice President of Infrastructure at Facebook. Facebook has one of the most exciting uses of the cloud and the data center. It is really serving nearly a 1000000000 users worldwide. And Jay was telling me before the panel of all of the interesting use cases they come up with. So really happy to have Jay join us.
Jay, thank you very much for being here. Officer. Tim Burke is Vice President of Linux Engineering at Red Hat. Tim has more than 25 years of experience in the industry and he runs all the development teams for Red Hat's Enterprise Linux Operating Officer. Tim, thanks for joining us.
Thank you. And finally, he doesn't need to be introduced. Nathan Brookwood is joining us to moderate the panel. Nathan is a Research Fellow at Insight64. He is truly respected as being a processor expert, a semiconductor expert and a system expert and he's also extraordinarily well respected as one of our foremost industry analysts.
Welcome, Nathan. Thank you for being with us. All right. Now I'm going to turn it over to Nathan.
Thank you. And before we get into the panel, I know that AMD had wanted Amazon to participate in this session and They couldn't be here, but they did send a video. So why don't we take a look at the video of what Amazon's views on this?
It's a great day for the overall server ecosystem. It's a step forward for the ARM server world. I'm really excited to hear this new part being announced and I'm even more excited about the prospect of seeing it shift in volume. The most important driver of the cost of a modern data center is power. And so anything we can do to lower the Power for a given amount of work done is extraordinarily valuable and nowhere is there a richer R and D stream on power performance and power optimization Officer.
And in the cell phone world, that ecosystem is driving some of the best innovations possible in power and power performance. And in fact, a little secret. I've always used the what's happening in the cell phone world as a predictor of what's coming in the server world. Technologies that show up first in the cell phone world end up in the server world. And knowing that is one of the reasons why behind the ARM market.
There is huge innovation behind the ARM market. So build on that ecosystem, At the same time, they're leveraging the advanced micro devices experience in building server CPUs for many, many, many years. Bringing those two together And building a server optimized part, it's taking technology that's there in volume today and is changing and growing and improving incredibly fast
Thanks. One of the things I've observed and I've been following the 64 bit computing world For a long time now, as a matter of fact, some people think 64 and inside 64 is when I graduated from high school. I can absolutely say that's not true. But it does have something to do with 64 bits. And it's interesting that it took Officer.
A long time, almost 5 years from the time that we started seeing 64 bit when AMD started talking about 64 bit Processors. Until there was any kind of ecosystem and support for it in the industry. And yet with Arm, That's happening much faster. Let me just illustrate. Andrew Feldman, who is the genius behind the AMD Freedom Fabric, I first met about 18 months ago when he was selling dense micro servers with Intel Atoms inside.
Officer. And then 6 months later, I ran into him when ARM was announcing their 64 bit Architecture a year ago at TechCon. And then 3 months later, there he was and AMD had just Acquired them and they were talking about Opteon based dense micro servers. And here we are another 3 months later And we're talking about AMD being in the ARM market. So in 18 months, we've gone from Little Intel dense micro servers to having AMD making this massive commitment.
And in another year or so, we'll see these products start to roll out. So it's really an Officer. And with that, let me just start because I've got these wonderful guys here who know so much about the industry. Officer. So let me throw a couple of questions out and I'll start with you Simon.
You're going to be on the hot seat. There are some people who say this whole micro server thing is vastly overblown and that it might eventually gain high single digit kind of market share in the server market. Officer. Now obviously, ARM thinks must think differently. What do you think that those people who are talking about This being an inconsequential portion of the market are missing.
Well, I think there's a much bigger opportunity than a couple of single digits. But I think it really comes down to how you define a server. So the conventional micro server is to the extent we've known it today has had a small processor with a bunch of Peripherals that are shared amongst other small processes, I think what we have the opportunity to do here is bring all of the SoC kind of technology That has evolved so rapidly in mobile to a server and that's going to allow us to take a completely different approach to architecting the chip, to architecting the system And delivering radically more power efficiency into the end market. So you mentioned that we've been through 18 months of rapid change. I think we're the next 18 months we're going to see a lot more rapid change as the capability just to completely redesign what a server looks like from the ground up is actually made available to So I think there's a much bigger opportunity than people have thought about traditionally.
Putting exact number on it, I think I'm not going to do because I'm bound to be wrong, but Yes, tens of percent, I think, over time is where this market can get to. Fantastic.
Let me ask you, Lisa. I was at IDF last month And one of the Intel executives there said, the role of the CPU in terms of power consumption is vastly overrated. And whether you have an X86 CPU, probably an Intel X86 CPU or an ARM CPU, Doesn't really matter because so much of the power in data centers gets used up in keeping the DRAM running and running the disks and running all the networking equipment. And so they didn't think that it really mattered whether that switching from an X86 to an ARM Would make that much difference in terms of overall power consumption. So what are they missing over at Intel that you guys see at AMD?
Officer. Yes. I think that's really a traditional view of what the data center looks like. And the real answer is that the data center is changing, The workloads are changing and the ability to dramatically change sort of what the cost of running a data center as well as the CapEx expense Officer. It's really unlocked when you do things like put small efficient CPUs like ARM together with our fabrics and systems that don't need as much Network Topology and really optimized for various workloads.
So I think that's exactly the problem that we're trying to solve and the exact thing that armed together with our fabric and the ecosystem can solve.
So In other words, it's not just that you're going to be reducing the power of the CPU or the power consumed by the CPU. It's always confusing talking Officer. But also that you're going to be able to reduce the amount of power consumed by the other elements talking to the CPUs. Is that what Officer.
Well, absolutely. And more importantly, you can reduce the number of nodes that you need from the system to the network. Officer and that really changes the dynamics of the economics of the data center.
Interesting. Okay. Well, speaking of the mechanics of the data center, we're all chippy people or software people, but there's one guy on the panel who actually spends a lot of time Getting his hands dirty with this data center kind of operation. Jimmy, at Dell, you that's what your business is, right, is fitting out these data centers. One of the things that I understand is that people who are running data centers today spend almost as much on power to run The servers that are in those data centers as they spend on acquiring that equipment in the first place.
And so my question is, Officer. If they go if we move those kind of workloads to ARM, how does that change the equation?
Well, that's actually somewhat dated. I think you're talking about Officer. Where the power utilization effectiveness of the data center was about 2.0. In modern hyperscale data centers, it's not uncommon to see Power utilization effectiveness to be 1.2, 1.1 or even lower. And what that means is you're not using up All this power on things other than the IT equipment that we once were.
That being aside though, what that does is that means that all the focus is on the power consumed by the IT equipment. Now the IT equipment, the processor is overwhelmingly the largest consumer of that. So anything we can do to give better power, better performance per power, better performance For Watt in the data center is really important. This is especially true if you look at the expected growth rate that we're going to see. Just the amount of Power we're going to need to power these data centers is going to be enormous.
So anything we can do to give us a better power footprint is good.
Fantastic. Okay. And now let's change a little bit, talk about some of the software implications of all this. So let me turn to Jay. You guys run large data centers, but you also build lots of software.
Officer. And you've got a lot of software, I suspect, that's now tightly bound to X86 kind of architectures. Officer. What's in it for you to make the investments to move to a different ISA? And is it really worth it Officer.
Yes. So I think touching on a couple of things that were said earlier, for us, it's always about Obviously, power and cost reliability, but also modularity for us is really, really important, right? So some of these what I'm Officer. Excited about sort of where the industry is. One is like I think we need to stop thinking about enterprise and HPC environments and sort of porting them back into the cloud.
Officer. We need to be thinking about our hardware designs across the industry for and basically optimizing for these really, really large scale kind of mega data center presences. Now the thing that's happening in these data centers is the workloads are just tremendous, right? I can say that if you all use Facebook, you're used to going to your homepage or to your timeline And you see sort of one web page, but there is 100 if not thousands of different services and servers that are involved in generating that One page for you. Some of these things are CPU heavy.
Some of them need a lot of memory. Some of them have a lot of disks. Some of them use all of the above, Maybe network, intensive. So for us, it's really about trying to not just save energy That's good. But really what I want to be able to do is from a modularity perspective being able to change out and optimize the hardware and we'll make the investment in the software if the TCO is positive for us is being able to kind of Change out our infrastructure at a kind of right scale or right cycle.
I don't want to be bound by Officer. In every 3 year upgrade because that's what sort of the financial plan says. If there are things that are coming in the market, Officer. I don't want to have to buy a bunch of new stuff and then deprecate the old stuff. What I'd like to be able to do is go pop out those parts, Those SoC modules in existing infrastructure where I don't have to touch the network, I may not have to touch the storage, I may not have to touch Officer.
Things like disk or NAND, but maybe it's that I just change out the processor. I change out the processor and the NAND or the NAND controller and the NAND Officer in the DRAM as well, and then being able to kind of at different times change out the network as well. And we'll make the software investments to make this all happen, right? For me, it's about flexibility and this modularity is a key part of why I think where we're going, what we're talking about today is exciting.
You mentioned that there are some tasks That require powerful CPUs and others that need could get by with lightweight, lighter weight CPUs. Do you have any feeling Officer. For the mix of tasks that need that kind of big bang that you get with a real X86 Versus what you can get with an ARM type core?
Yes. I think that's actually in some ways maybe orthogonal to the real issue that we face internally, which is Officer. One is, I don't have a real percentage there for you, but I think for us it's like today you have the big powerful LX86. There's very little software outside of sort of HPC environments, and heavily virtualized environments that I think take advantage of these very powerful CPUs, right? And then also you try to clock these down or limit the power, you play all these tricks and then you introduce latency and you introduce Other operational issues, when you do have a spike or you do have outages or you have other new software releases.
I mean at Facebook, The product literally is changing for 1,000,000,000 plus people every day like we are changing the front end code. In fact, as I speak right now, the entire site is rolling Officer for a 1000000000 users and we do that once or twice a day. So our product is changing all the time and the workloads that go behind it are changing literally every
Officer. So you don't have to stop and have Windows update and take care of all that stuff.
No blue screens for us.
No rebooting and all that. Speaking of blue screens, software. Software is always a big issue. And I remember in the early days when AMD was out there Typing AMD 64 and the whole ecosystem was still on 32 bit x86 and AMD was beating everybody up, Move to 64 blah, blah, blah. It never it took forever.
And so as somebody who's a purveyor of the operating system software, what's in it for you to move the your Officer. What's in it for you to move your software system, especially as it exists in the 32 bit ARM world To 64 Bits and how are you going to go about getting that to happen? Sure. Things are moving a lot more quickly now than
they were 10 years ago when Officer. 64 first came out. And if you look at a lot of the drivers of innovation today, it's coming from the bottom up. It's these movements of The Facebooks of the world, the Googles and things like that, they're really driving innovation in the cloud infrastructure landscape that are moving into the data center. So we at Red Hat, we're really all about choice and innovation and flexibility for our customers.
So through the collaboration of consortium Of Industry Partners, the broader community, we're able to take developments of these technologies and get them rapidly to market. So take, for example, Our cloud infrastructure, it's we already have armed based versions of our Fedora open source operating system Officer. Presently available for people to develop on today because it's really about forming a foundation, layers on which they can build. We're building we're porting and developing a 64 bit version of the Java runtime environment. We've got all the components already in place Officer for the traditional LAMP stacks.
And in fact, most customers and users of the cloud, they don't know what's in the back end. It's used for a lot of heavy analytics. Like take for example, the Giants win the World Series and they want to run all these models to get the right T shirts at the right spot or there's a hurricane ripping up the East Coast and they want to get Officer. Water and batteries in the right stores or get the right types of personalized queries for business propositions. These are the very workloads that are becoming the foundation both for on premise clouds and in the data center clouds.
So there's really a lot of opportunity here for really fast paced innovation and it really is the combined power of the open source community in conjunction with Officer. Our hardware and software partners that are really going to enable the marketplace to move quickly to capitalize on these low powered hyperscale environments. So one
of the things I heard you say is open source is a big part of this. And as I go back and think about what was going on when AMD was trying to convert the world to Office. 64 bit x86, a lot of that depended on Microsoft getting their act together and the Windows 64 bit versions Seems to keep getting pushed out. So are you saying that because so much of this is open source that it's going to happen quicker Officer.
Absolutely. In fact, we already have 32 bit versions of the ARM port. ARM has been supported in Linux for many, many years and it's really been this Grassroots bottom up development. For example, it enables our partners and other companies to participate, whether that's Through doing just basic hardware enablement to doing things like Java runtime environments to be able to Optimize GPU and other floating point units to be able to really do more. It's really empowering to let our partners, Customers in the community to drive the technology in places that no one company because ultimately, we all have our own different priorities and our own different drives and motivations.
And it's really the power of open source that's really fueled cloud computing, which is taking over the data center today.
I guess that open source also would make it easier for people who have codes that are based on X86 to migrate them into the To an ARM environment.
Absolutely, because they can port at their own rate. But the other thing, one of the benefits of open source is that the People can drive their own innovation. They can experiment themselves because it really is, as I mentioned before, it's a bottoms up Officer. Effort because a lot of the latest technologies are coming out of the social media space, things that are coming out of the mobile front as well as Innovations like in the financial services market that all work very closely together through open source. So it really is it's not just us.
Red Hat, Officer. Although we're building the platform on which this can be built and layered, it really is the combined community that really brings it and makes it pop in the industry.
Jay, how about what you're doing at Facebook in this regard? Are your toolchain set up so that you can easily convert Officer. Blocks of code or specific functions from one architecture to another?
Officer. We have a lot of different systems. So for us, it's about picking the right ones where this makes sense and then putting sort of Officer putting the team together to make that happen, right? So if it's where the TCO and sort of the model makes sense to adopt a different architecture in the web servers, then we will set up project and sort of build out the tool chain that makes sense. I mean, we've done this across the board, not at the processor level because we're mostly x86 Everywhere, but we've done this everywhere else.
So in the network and various efficiency stuff where we several years ago, We were running our front end code in Apache and that was having its performance and sort of cost implications for us. So we basically put together an Officer. Entire team that wrote its own compiler and now we have our own sort of virtual machine and compiler that runs all
of this code that our product teams build and develop. And is that Compiler X86 based or could you retarget it for ARM?
Both, yes. It is X86 based, but ongoing work to retarget it for whatever We need to.
So you control a lot of your own development tools, which we can take.
Yes, I think that's important, right, which is we've built up the team and sort of the expertise that we can Essentially start at the dirt where we build our data centers. And as you know, we've built our own data centers in Oregon and North Carolina and now Officer now in Sweden and we're literally starting at the ground up and building these very highly optimized efficient data centers where we can Minimize all the cooling and all the overhead there, but then bringing it up through the hardware, the network and all the software as well. Interesting.
If I could add one point to that. There's as much as people want to roll their own, one of the key things and this is a big challenge For fostering the ARB ecosystem is to be able to have a common standard platform on which ISVs and others can layer their applications. And so one of the most interesting things that I see developing is through there's industry consortiums and other collaborative efforts forming between Hardware partners such as AMD as well as the software vendors to be able to develop a standard commodity based ARM platform upon which you can build the operating systems and the middleware stacks on top of that. So I think that through the participants see this together And we're really trying to work hard to get ARM into a standard platform.
So And how far do you think ARM is from having that kind of standard platform at this point?
I don't think it's ARM is going to have it's not really ARM. That's the beauty of it. It's It's the industry together because no one participant can come out with this. So it's really the cooperation across the board here ranging from the chip Officers through to the OEMs, through to the software, middleware providers and ultimately into the application tier that that's what's going to bring it up.
But that doesn't happen all by itself. Somebody's got to be driving that and provide you.
What's been interesting was in the early days, we really had to push that. I'd say in this space that's Totally got a life of its own now. So we're seeing our partners top to bottom making contributions, wanting to get involved and wanting to push this on behalf of everyone. So It has totally got a life of its own these days.
Lisa, you started out this session earlier by talking about how AMD was going to contribute to that 64 bit ARM Ecosystem. Can you give us a little color as to how that's going to happen?
Yes, absolutely. I mean, this is one example, right? Gathering the key Officer of the ecosystem. We're working very closely with a number of the software vendors as well as the OEMs on how we put together the overall ecosystem for that. You'll be hearing more at ARM's event coming up over the next couple of days.
So I don't want to preannounce any of those things. But there are a lot of efforts to bring hardware, software, systems, OEMs together so that we get the entire framework of what's needed to make this successful. Officer. That's a multi year, multi partner effort.
Okay. I'm getting a signal from off stage that they want They're going to bring out a hook soon if we don't stop. So I want to thank you all for your participation here. It's been educational and informative. So thanks.
Thank you very much and thank you to all the partners who do. Officer. Okay. With that, I'd like to invite Rory back on stage and I believe we're going to take a few questions.
Lisa, Officer.
To invite up Andrew Feldman, who is our Vice President and General Manager of our Data Center Server Solutions team. Andrew, he's also responsible for the C Micro Freedom Fabric. Officer. Andrew?
Freedom Fabry.
Freedom Fabry. Freedom Fabry. Okay. Questions right over here.
First one, I
have the microphone here. Oh, we have the mic. Officer.
We'll start here and then we'll go there. Okay. All right.
We're coming next. Hey, Rory, it's Glenn Young from Citi. My question is kind of 3 parts, Lisa or Officer. You make the case that AMD is going to be the first with both x86 and ARM on 64 bit. I guess the first part of Officer.
Why is it relevant to have both? Is there somehow a synergy there? The second part is, is there are you going to be using
Officer. So Glenn, it's good to see you. From a standpoint of why is it important, the Ecosystems are going to continue to evolve. And obviously, the point about the Freedom Fabric is very important in terms of applying the Server technology to the workloads where it best fit. And we also think that this is going to be a very interesting growth phenomena Over the next say 3, 5, 7 years and as that occurs, we want to be a leader in that space because of the uniqueness of the design, Officer.
We think that ARM 64 bit will play an important role. X86 won't go away tomorrow, won't go away over a long period of time. This is an important opportunity for us to get in there and lead and show the direction and then pull it together with the C Micro solution. The second question?
Yes, Glenn, let me just add some thoughts to that. So we are announcing an overall partnership with ARM. I think we've Previously announced that we were licensing ARM's A5 for security. They've joined our Heterogeneous Systems Association. Tomorrow ARM will be talking more Officer, details about some of their new 64 bit core technology.
We are a licensee of that technology and that will continue to expand over time.
And then the third one was cost associated with it. When we talked about the operational Officer that we were creating with the financial reset that we did last week. We considered, as I mentioned, Glenn, in the earnings announcement, Where we were strategically investing and where we are going. So we've built that into the model going forward.
Okay.
Let's jump
over here. Thank
you. Sean Webster from Macquarie. Thank you for hosting this. A question related to Glenn's is on just general affordability. You said it's fitting within the envelope of your guidance taking into account the reductions that you have in mind.
It Sounds like this is going to be something that will require maybe multiple design teams of investment. And I'm just wondering if there's other areas within your portfolio that you're thinking of Disassociating or pulling back from. And then my second question, this is a 2 parter, is there anything that you would be doing in the ARM space that will be that you Leverage down into clients like getting into Windows RT environments. Thanks.
Yes. So the first question was in regards to the cost again and the structure. Yes. No, I mean, what everyone should think about is from an investment level, One of the ideas is the idea to reuse the IP that we've created across our portfolio. We have the graphics IP.
We have a number of Officer. About it in the past, SOC 15, a system on a chip, reusable IP blocks, agile architecture. This is the idea that each of our components is reusable across systems and across chips. The processor just becomes an IP block in that solution over Hi. And that processor then slides in and out of the design with the bus communicating across the various IP blocks.
And that's why we think that that's part of that ambidextrous architecture. But more importantly, we think it opens up Whole another level of growth opportunity to apply our technology. Okay. And the second question was? Officer.
Oh, client. Do you want to take that, Lisa?
Yes. And maybe the way I would talk about the portfolio is we are definitely targeting our investments at the higher growth segments. So the highest growth segment in server is definitely this mega data center, cloud data center workloads and that's where we're going to be targeting our investments. Officer and Client and certainly New Client and Mobility and that's where we're going to be targeting our investments there. I think ARM has a lot of traction in client for sure.
Officer. I think ARM has a lot of capability in various dimensions. Today, our relationship that we're announcing is around servers, but we certainly believe that the fundamental underlying principle Officer in terms of microprocessor design, in terms of system on chip capability, in terms of system integration are applicable across multiple markets.
Great. Thank you. Question? There's one here and then we'll go over here next. Hi.
Mark Hocking with Slushnet. There's been a couple of predictions, guesses as to the what's the ARM Officer. What's your assessment? And then as a second question, I want to know,
if you could quantify,
Officer. Sure. From a growth standpoint and opportunity, We think this will be one of the fastest growing segments, obviously. And in terms of its raw potential, it's hard to put a number on it at this point. Officer.
I put it in well into double digit percentages over that horizon 3 to 5 years. And I do think, again, it's going to be the fastest growth, multiple tens. Andrew, you've had some thoughts on this. You designed this into the fabric. What do you think about when you think about the mix?
Well, I think the movement towards smaller more efficient processors is Officer. And you heard Jimmy talk about it and you heard Jay talk about it in both from the largest OEM and one of the largest consumers of compute in the Officer. And so you heard that from the builders and the buyers. I think in answer to the second part of your question, I think you can build clusters of ARM based servers that use a third of the power, Between a third and a half the power, I think it takes work. And I think that's the work that will be worked on with the software community And with companies like Dell that Jimmy represents and teams like the one that I came to AMD with and C Micro.
But that works on the table and available to us because of this technology. And that new challenge Officer.
Great. We got one right here.
Yes, right over here. We have 2.
All right.
1st. Rick Merritt from E. Times. Three things weren't clear, just specifics. Are you going to design your own course As opposed to using ARMs, are you doing merchant ships as opposed to systems of C Micro?
And third one was oh, is this one chip Officer.
Yes. So let me answer those. So in terms of our relationship with ARM, as I said, we're announcing an overall strategic relationship with ARM. Officer. Tomorrow, ARMOUR will be announcing some details of one of their 64 bit cores and we will license that as part of the announcement.
In terms of what will we sell, we will sell merchant chips. So we will certainly work with the leading OEMs of the industry as well as sell systems Officer under the C Micro brand as part of AMD Systems. And the third question was?
When should the sales?
It will be integrated on single SoC.
Officer. Great. Next question right here. Yes.
Dean Takahashi with VentureBeat. Sort of related to that question, How much flexibility do you have in designing exactly what you want to design? Do you have this did you want this Broader architectural license, which would give you that complete freedom to do whatever you want or is there some limitation on what you can do?
Yes. It's fair to say that our relationship with ARM is expanding and broadening over time. So we have a lot of 64 bit microprocessor Expertise and we're going to apply that liberally to both X86 and ARM.
Question right here. Jack Officer. My question is for Lisa. I know you guys have Optron 6, 43. Do you have see a role for a lightweight X86 core potentially, let's say, like a Jaguar towards Low end, low power, power efficient SKUs in the server space?
Yes, I think that's a good question. So the question was regarding we have Arm has a small efficient core. We also have X86 cores as well, our Bobcat family series, Jaguar Officer. We do see a place for X86 small cores as well. I think the key thing is the ecosystem will drive of Small Core Adoption.
The fabric is absolutely critical to that and that's the piece that will be common amongst whether you're talking about small core, big core and it really is about optimizing for the various workloads as they come true.
And that's one of the how the question that was asked over here earlier relates to your question is, As you advertise blocks of IP across x86 and ARM something like the fabric, it's the Freedom fabric we designed is the only fabric that supports Officer. It's designed exactly so we could take one piece of work that we do as engineering and use that piece of work to underpin best in class smallcore Office. And best in class small core arm. And that's really sort of one of the tenets of the strategy is To use technology that we invent, in this case the Freedom Fabrics across the portfolio. Officer.
Good. Question in the back over here. Serge, it's Michel from Gartner. Quick question, Rory. On the reusable IP blocks that we've been talking about in the SOC world.
Could you give us some understanding of what time frame we're looking at for 1? For 2, what are those IP blocks more targeted for? Communication, industrial, gaming, what are the IP blocks that we're looking at to build an SoC product family?
Sure. We've been on this journey since many of the management team has been assembled. We've been working on moving toward IP blocks, SoC methodology since back in last year. The idea again is how do we create that set Officer of the ecosystem, but more importantly across chips. This is something that's fundamental in terms of reducing testing, Reducing all the complexity.
It's easy to create a complex environment that's Every interface has to be retested and tested because of every IP block coming together. What we want to do is move to a structure where those IP blocks Have defined interfaces that they allow to be assembled in a much more rapid pace. This will reduce our test cycles. This will reduce our costs. One of the points to Glenn in the beginning about how you reduce the cost of the overall execution of AMD.
This is a fundamental As well as moving to a standard set of processes, industry level, mass layers, all of these things make huge difference In terms of the overall cost, moving away from everything custom to reusable. This is something that's occurring now. You'll see it in The Capini product as it moves to a full SoC chip, you'll see it into the following chips. We're already moving in this direction Across the portfolio and this is a set of journeys or steps across our product segment to apply that. And that's the foundation of where we're going.
Did you want to add a little bit more on that?
No. I think you said it well.
Good. Our question from the back. Okay.
Officer. Gil Russell, Brightside Analytics. A couple of easy knock off questions here. You announced that it's a 2014 launch. And I'd like to know what when you expect the return on investment stream to kick in on that launch?
Also, have you formed the engineering team? And the other last or third part is Hey to you. Where does that segue? Sure. Go ahead.
Yes. Okay. Let me take those. So, 2014 launch, we believe that we will be at at Leading Edge of ARM based servers out there in the industry. The market will develop over time.
So clearly, we talked about how we accelerate the ecosystem, but this will be a couple of years to really get that market to develop over time. Next question was regarding
Part of the engineers.
The teams, yes. The engineering teams have been well underway. I think this is one of those things that Rory and I have been working on Officer for quite some time. And so the engineering teams are executing and working very well with the ARM team. Yes.
The APUs are really, I would say orthogonal to some of the conversation because when we think about APUs, I think about Office, the graphics compute as another IP element that we can integrate onto chip. So when you think about workloads that can really take advantage of the graphics Compute like some of these media streaming workloads, some of these high performance computing workloads. I think whether you're talking about X86 or ARM APUs, You'd be able to dramatically improve for these specific workloads the capability.
We have a question over here.
Okay. See you.
Yes. It's Damon Poder with PC Magazine. Hi. To Lisa's point that this is an inflection point, I think, is almost an understatement given the fact that the story to X86 House Officer. Moving to work with the new architecture.
It almost raises a lot of questions that are probably possible for you guys to answer. 1, just looking at my notes is we're talking about data center today. When do we start talking about client stuff And all the way down into mobile with ARM and AMD and X86 and ARM. Are other from AMD's point of view, Are there other architectures that you're looking at? Are we looking at MIPS?
Are we looking at other things besides ARM for possible future collaborations and stuff Officer. You talked about developing developer ecosystems. We've seen that's even tough For the Intel's and the NVIDIA's of the world with all that they've invested in, Takeda and their proprietary products. Officer. What's your strategy there going forward?
And that's a lot of stuff to digest, but Officer.
Go ahead. Yes. Whatever you can. So I'll take the first one real quick. From a standpoint of the inflection point, you're 100% right.
This is a huge inflection point. Don't misunderstand it. This is a we're a huge X86 business. We'll continue to leverage that architecture. That's an important piece of our business.
But there's no doubt Device type and the cloud fundamentally moves all the data there. We're going to attack that in 2 ways. We're going to attack it in the server Create the low power solution and architecture because as you heard our panel talk about, it's about power, it's about space, It's about huge amounts of data and workload because the applications and data are now out of the client. The second part we'll do is across the architecture in The client space, we'll start to knit together those because graphics matters. That's why our IP is so fundamental To our strategy going forward and take APUs across those client devices, drive down the lower the power lower and then allows us to move into adjacent Spaces like embedded, like semi custom.
This is all part of the growth strategy that we see driven by this market phenomena. And I think that's how we got engaged with C Micro back in the day because they saw that same idea and how to knit that solution together As we think just a fundamental step. Again, this is not a debate about X86. That instruction set Has lots of applications and data is going to play a huge role in our future. But more importantly, how do we knit that together?
Arm is going to open up so much new opportunity for us and it's going to allow us to expand across that. The market will ultimately be the Farnell Arbiter, but we're going to be there to help lead this transition disrupt and create a new future.
Maybe Damon, let me just add to that, because I think what you're asking is bringing together several pieces of the AMD strategy, because I think what we've said is Officer. We are a company that has tremendous innovation at our forefront. So high performance microprocessor design capability, Officer, high performance graphics capability, leading edge graphics capability, excellent systems capability with software, with our heterogeneous Officer, Software Solutions and then with our C Microfabric. When you talk about how do you move an ecosystem, I think the way to move an ecosystem is really to be open And how you do it. And I mean that's what makes the partnership with ARM so compelling because we're able to take all of Officer of the crown jewels and the IP of the company and apply it to an open ecosystem that is thriving to develop, whether you're talking to the OEMs like HP and Dell or you're talking to the users like Office.
Facebook and Google and Amazon, there's a desire for that integration capability. So it gives us an opportunity to really use the Tremendous IP assets that we have to these higher growth market segments. So I have a lot of confidence in the ecosystem building. Officer. One example I'll give you is our Heterogeneous Systems Architecture Foundation that we announced in June.
Officer. We announced with ARM as a founding member, Imagination, Texas Instruments, ourselves. Since then Qualcomm has announced They've joined. Samsung has announced that they've joined. So the ecosystem really does go for open systems.
One more.
Hi, James, it's Nicole at IDG News. Lisa, you said earlier, we believe we'll be at the leading edge of ARM You said something about the fabric is the secret sauce that no other server vendor will have. I mean, you are still planning to license all this, I presume
Officer. I'm sorry, I didn't catch the last. Are you
licensing this fabric to other server makers or is this an AMD technology going forward? I thought originally you said you plan to license this Officer.
Yes. What we've said about C Micro is Officer. We're using it to both advance the systems knowledge and certainly Andrew and his team are doing that. We're also working in partnership with the leading OEMs Officer to talk about how fabrics are integrating into their systems. And in our own capability, we will be integrating them on chip.
Officer. So whether there's actually licensing, I think that's a broader statement. But I think the key is the fabric together with our microprocessor technology Officer gives us a differentiated advantage for these ARM based systems. And maybe Andrew, do you want to add a little bit on that?
I'd just say that I think what we're announcing today is a use of our technology, our IP blocks across a new area, And I think whether it's working with Jimmy and his team at Dell or with other OEMs, we want to work with them to build phenomenal product that use their advantages and their IP and their insight. And if that involves our chips that have the Freedom Fabric embedded in it, we should work with them to help them build extraordinary solutions for their customers. And they have a set of capabilities and advantages that are different than the ones that the C. Michael Group bring to AMD. And so the trick is to use Our key strengths and marry them up with those who have different key strengths to build solutions that people like Jay find Officer.
And that's what we're out here trying to do every single day.
Okay. With that, we'll conclude the Q and A. Officer. I want to finish up the way we started. I want to thank you for being here on this historic moment.
I have a passionate personality and I believe In this inflection point, this is going to occur and this is part of the DNA that makes AMD who we are. Our engineers look for what's next. How can we create innovation? How can we inspire our customers and partners to think differently? How can we create that next inflection point?
How can we change the game? Our partnership today that we announced with Warren East, Officer. The CEO of Arm is a powerful one and an important step forward in this vision of changing the industry and capturing this inflection point. Warren made every effort to be here and I think it says volumes about the man who does an interview at Heathrow in the back of a taxi Because he believes in what we're doing. This is the first step in a series of steps to build a new and different AMD.
This is the future we want to create and this is the future our customers and partners see. This is our time to lead and apply our engineering skill and intellectual property to make it happen. Thank you all for taking part in this historic moment Officer. As we introduce our ambidextrous architecture leveraging both X86 and ARM technology