Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by, and welcome to the Second Quarter 2020 AMETEK, Inc. Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. After the speaker presentation, there will be a question and answer Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce Vice President of Investor Relations, Kevin Coleman.
Thank you, Andrew. Good morning, and thank you for joining us for AMETEK's Q2 2020 earnings conference call. With me today are Dave Zapico, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer and Bill Burke, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. AMETEK's 2nd quarter results were released earlier this morning and are available on market systems and in the Investors section of our website. This call is also being webcasted and can be accessed on our website.
During the course of today's call, we will make forward looking statements, which are subject to change based on various risk factors and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ significantly from expectations. A detailed discussion of the risks and uncertainties that may affect our future results is contained in AMETEK's filings with the SEC, including in our 10 Q, which we filed later today. AMETEK disclaims any intention or obligation to update or revise any forward looking statements. Any references made on this call to 2019 or 2020 results will be on an adjusted basis, excluding after tax acquisition related intangible amortization and also excluding the gain from the sale of Reading Alloys in the Q1 of 2020 and the realignment charge taken in the Q1 of 2020. Reconciliations between GAAP and adjusted measures can be found in our press release and on the Investors section of our website.
We'll begin today with prepared remarks by Dave and Bill and then open it up for questions. I'll now turn the meeting over to Dave.
Thank you, Kevin, and good morning, everyone. Despite an economic environment as challenging and uncertain as any we have ever faced in AMETEK, our business stood strong in the 2nd quarter delivering outstanding operating performance that exceeded expectations. I wanted to start by thanking all AMETEK colleagues who are working tirelessly through this pandemic to provide our customers with great products and exceptional service. As our results attest, our employees are doing an amazing job. The safety of our employees remains our highest priority.
We continue to implement our pandemic response plan, which provides a pandemic for our businesses to manage their facilities and workforce during this pandemic. We are following CDC and local health and safety guidelines and are adjusting and enhancing our safety protocols as required to ensure safe working environment for our employees. Now let me turn to our results for the quarter. Sales in the Q2 were $1,010,000,000 down 22% versus the Q2 of 2019. Organic sales were also down 22% with recent acquisitions contributing 4%, the divestiture of Reading Ally is a 3 point headwind and foreign currency a 1 point headwind.
Despite substantial demand weaknesses, our business delivered exceptional operating performance. Operating income in the quarter was $227,000,000 and operating margins were very strong at 22.4%, while decremental margins were an impressive 25%. EBITDA in the 2nd quarter was $289,700,000 and EBITDA margins were a record 28.6%, up 160 basis points over last year's Q2. This drove earnings of $0.84 per diluted share, down 20% versus the Q2 of 2019. Our cash generation in the quarter was superb.
Operating cash flow was up 28% year over year to $315,000,000 Free cash flow conversion was also exceptionally strong 183% of net income. Our businesses are focused on controlling what they can. The operating performance in the quarter is validation of the strength and flexibility of our asset light business model, the quality of our niche businesses and most importantly, the talent and commitment of our workforce. Next, I will provide some additional details at the operating group level. 2nd quarter sales for our Electronic Instruments Group were $647,900,000 down 21% from the same period last year.
Organic sales were down 26% with the acquisitions of Gatan and Intellipower contributing 5 percent. Despite the impact COVID-nineteen had on sales, our EIG businesses delivered excellent operating performance. EIG's operating income in the 2nd quarter was $159,600,000 and operating margins remained strong at 24.6%. The Electromechanical Group also delivered excellent operating results, driven by better than expected organic sales and their operational excellence initiatives, which contributed to exceptional margin expansion. EMG sales were $364,000,000 down 22% versus the prior year's Q2.
Organic sales were down 16% with the recent acquisition of PDT adding 3%, the divestiture of Reading Alloys was an 8 point headwind and foreign currency was a 1 point headwind. EMG's margin expansion was outstanding in the quarter. While operating income decreased to $84,300,000 operating margins expanded an impressive 170 basis points to a record 23.2%, driven by our proactive operational excellence initiatives, truly exceptional work by our teams. Now let me provide some color on the different end market dynamics we are experiencing within our business. AMETEK serves a diverse set of end markets and across these end markets, we are seeing very different levels of demand and COVID-nineteen impacts.
So as I did last quarter, I'll group our businesses into 3 buckets based on the levels of demand we are experiencing and provide some commentary on each. I'll start with the most challenging markets, commercial aerospace and oil and gas, which combined account for approximately 15% of AMETEK sales. The weakness in commercial aerospace was largely as expected and driven by the impacts of COVID-nineteen on both our commercial OEM and aftermarket businesses. We expect these businesses to remain challenged for the balance of the year. Along with the impact from COVID-nineteen, weakness in our oil and gas business was a result of difficult prior year comparison given several large project shipments last year.
As a result, we expect solid sequential improvements in this business during the 3rd 4th quarters. Combined, sales for aerospace, commercial aerospace and oil and gas were down approximately 45% in
the quarter.
Excluding these two markets, AMETEK sales were down mid teens on a percentage basis in the 2nd quarter. Next, our strongest markets, defense and medical. Combining these markets account for over 20% of our sales and we have been experiencing solid internal growth, while also strategically expanding our portfolio in these areas through acquisitions. In the second quarter, sales were up low single digits for these businesses and we expect the strength to continue in the 3rd and 4th quarters. And for the balance of our markets, which include power, industrial, automation, metals, food and beverage and research, we are seeing demand levels somewhere in between those other two extremes.
We expect to see sequential improvements through the balance of the year for these businesses also. To offset these COVID-nineteen driven demand challenges, we remain focused on actively managing our cost structure through a mix of structural and temporary cost actions. Our executive office meets regularly with each of our businesses to review current market conditions, their demand outlook for the coming months and their operational plans. It is critical that each of our businesses develop an operating plan customized for their business and that this operating plan be adjusted if conditions change. This flexibility is key in our asset light operating model where cost can be quickly variabilized.
This approach allows us to best align our cost structure with demand levels we are experiencing by market and by business. We have the flexibility to expand cost savings initiatives or as demand conditions improve, we can add back costs as required. In the Q2, we generated $85,000,000 in total cost savings, with $35,000,000 in structural savings and $50,000,000 in temporary cost savings. This level of savings was above our initial estimate of $80,000,000 in total cost savings in the quarter. As we look ahead to the 3rd quarter, we expect approximately $65,000,000 in total cost savings with $35,000,000 to $40,000,000 in structural and $25,000,000 to $30,000,000 in temporary savings.
And for the full year, we now expect structural savings of $135,000,000 and will flex our temporary cost savings either up or down based on volume levels in the Q4. The spread of the coronavirus has obviously forced companies to adapt and adjust how they do business. Work from home requirements and travel restrictions have changed how companies interact and engage with customers. Our businesses have been proactive in developing and utilized digital capabilities to help them stay engaged with our customers. Our sales and engineering teams are working side by side with our customers through digital channels to cultivate and build relationships.
These initiatives have included virtual events through newly implemented digital platforms to provide product demos, webinars and collaborative business meetings. Finally, some of our teams are finding innovative ways to help provide aftermarket services for our customers through interactive technologies. I commend our teams for quickly adapting to the new reality and for embracing these new ways of doing business. We remain committed to investing in additional technologies to support our customer experience. Despite the global demand challenges, AMETEK continues to invest meaningfully in new product development initiatives.
We are seeing great success from these investments as our businesses are introducing many new innovative solutions to help solve our customers' greatest challenges. Our vitality index, which measures the amount of sales generated from new products introduced during the last 3 years, was very strong at 26%. And here are just a few of the recent examples of new product introductions. AMETEK Land, a leading manufacturer of non contact temperature measurement solutions, saw robust demand in the Q2 for their new Viralode 3. This newly developed non contact temperature measurement solution is used to rapidly detect elevated skin temperature while allowing users to adhere to social distancing requirements.
The safe non contact, easy to use and highly accurate temperature solution is being used at entry points of offices, warehouses, hospitals, schools and recreational facilities. Given the product's ability to complete accurate temperature screenings at scale, the Viralote III is playing a role in reopening key facilities around the world. CreoForm, a leader in 3 d measurement technologies, released the latest solution in their MetraSCAN 3 d line The MetraSCAN BLACK is the fastest and most accurate 3 d scanner in the world with 4x the speed and resolution of its predecessor. The measurescan black can withstand harsh production environments and is utilized in the most complex quality control and quality assurance applications. This incredibly versatile instrument can be used to scan various part sizes and service finishes in real time, all with the same device.
And additionally, Mocon, a leading global provider of food package testing instruments, released their latest version of the DAN Sensor Checkpoint. This new portable headspace gas analyzer provides quality control managers a more precise, faster and more stable solution for measuring gases and specific food applications using modified atmosphere packaging or MAP. MAPs are used to extend the shelf life for packaged foods and pharmaceutical products requiring specialized packaging. Congratulations to the LAN, PreoForm and MOCON teams on these impressive new product developments. Now shifting to acquisitions.
The overall M and A market remains relatively quiet given the high levels of uncertainty around the coronavirus and its impact on the economy. That being said, our M and A teams remain very active and we are managing several opportunities. We have a very strong balance sheet and liquidity position and the ability to deploy meaningful amounts of capital on acquisitions. Our preference remains to point back capital on strategic acquisitions that provide us the ability to add quite high quality companies to our portfolio and drive excellent returns for our shareholders. Now turning to the outlook for the remainder of the year.
High levels of uncertainty remain given the continuing spread of the coronavirus, especially throughout parts of the U. S. While visibility has improved from this point last quarter, it is still limited as customers remain cautious. As a result, we will not be providing guidance for the Q3 or the full year. We'll issue guidance as conditions stabilize and visibility improves.
However, I did want to provide some high level comments around the Q3 and the balance of the year given what we know now. First, we expect to see sequential improvements in the 3rd and 4th quarters with commercial aerospace being the only business not expected to see sequential improvements. 2nd, we still expect very strong decremental margins at approximately 30% in the 3rd quarter. And lastly, we now expect full year decremental margins in the 25% range versus our previous estimate of 25% to 30% decrementals. In summary, AMETEK managed well through what's an extraordinarily challenging environment during the Q2.
The strength of the AMETEK growth model was evident in our Q2 performance and we will continue to allow us to operate at a high level through this dynamic market conditions. We are taking responsible cost actions and continue to invest our businesses to ensure they are poised to generate strong growth coming out of the downturn. We also have a robust balance sheet and liquidity position to allow us to capitalize on what we believe will be an opportunistic period for acquisitions. Finally, we're confident that AMETEK will emerge from these challenges as a stronger organization, given the growth profiles of our differentiated businesses, the company's financial strength and most importantly, the impressive level of talent within our world class workforce. I will now turn it over to Bill Burke, who will cover some of the financial details of the quarter, then we'd be glad to take your questions.
Bill? Thank you, Dave. I'd like to
echo Dave's comments on the outstanding efforts of our employees around the world. They continue to deliver exceptional performance during these challenging times. Let me provide some additional financial highlights for the quarter. 2nd quarter general and administrative expenses were down $1,700,000 compared to the same period in 2019 due to lower compensation costs and other discretionary spending cuts. The effective tax rate in the quarter was 19.5%, down from 20.4% in the same period last year.
The lower rate in the quarter was due to tax planning initiatives. For 2020, we now expect our effective tax rate to be approximately 19.5%. And as we've stated in the past, actual quarterly tax rates can differ dramatically either positively or negatively from this full year estimated rate. Working capital in the quarter was 19.6% versus 18.3% in last year's Q2. Capital expenditures in the 2nd quarter were $10,000,000 We continue to expect full year capital expenditures to be approximately $75,000,000 down from our initial expectations to start the year of $100,000,000 Depreciation and amortization expense in the quarter was $61,000,000 For the full year, we expect depreciation and amortization to be approximately $260,000,000 which includes after tax acquisition related intangible amortization of approximately $117,000,000 or $0.51 per diluted share.
Our businesses continue to generate high levels of cash. Operating cash flow in the quarter was excellent at $315,000,000 up 28% over last year's comparable quarter. Free cash flow was also outstanding at $305,000,000 up 36% over the same period last year, and free cash flow conversion was superb at 183% of net income. Total debt at the end of the quarter was $2,870,000,000 up modestly from $2,770,000,000
at the end of
2019 and down $383,000,000 from the end of the first quarter as we repaid a portion of the borrowings under our revolving credit facility. Offsetting this debt is cash and cash equivalents of $1,130,000,000 Our gross debt to EBITDA ratio at the end of the second quarter was 2.1x as we are intentionally holding higher than normal cash balances. This ratio was comfortably below our debt covenants of 3.5x. Our net debt to EBITDA ratio was 1.3x@quarterend. And both our gross and net debt to EBITDA ratios improved by 0.1 turns in the quarter.
AMETEK remains well positioned to manage this economic downturn with approximately $2,100,000,000 in liquidity to support our operations and growth initiatives. This includes over $950,000,000 in available revolver capacity. As we highlighted on our last call, AMETEK has a robust balance sheet with no material debt maturities due until 2023. To conclude, our ability to deliver solid results with outstanding cash generation despite these unprecedented challenges is a testament to the strength of our businesses and the dedication of our world class workforce. The AMETEK growth model and our financial strength firmly position us to manage this economic environment and invest in future growth to deliver long term success.
Kevin?
Thank you, Bill. Andrew, could we please open the line for questions?
Certainly. And our first question comes from the line of Matt Summerville with D. A. Davidson.
Thanks. Good morning. Couple of questions. First, Dave, can you talk about what you saw from an organic order standpoint in the quarter and maybe provide some color on kind of what the monthly year over year cadence may have looked like from April into July?
Right. Our overall orders were down negative 22% and organic was down about the same, so really aligned with our sales. Both of our groups were down and really followed sales. And we ended up with a book to bill of about 0.99. And for orders, the April was a low point in the quarter.
It grew nicely in May and then again in June. So it followed a similar trend for sales.
And then can you talk about your expectation for second half decrementals? You indicated in Q3 maybe expecting something a little worse than what you had in Q2. So maybe what's driving that? And then maybe put that in the context of the sustainability you see for the record EMG margin performance you generated in the quarter? Thank you.
Yes. The first point is the EM the second point, I answered your second question first. The EMG margins were exceptional and they were driven by strong operating performance. We had positive mix in our defense businesses and we also had the divestiture of Reading Alloys that contributed to 50 basis points at the EMG level. So EMG had a great quarter and the majority of that margin In terms of the decrementals, I mean, we had good decrementals in both parts of the business.
We had 16% decrementals in EMG and 31% in EIG. Those are really good. And in terms of the guidance of 30% decrementals for Q3, we're adding back some cost and we're really preparing for a larger Q4. So and still for the full year, we've increased our decrementals from 30% to 25%. So that's what we're doing.
We're managing the business, looking at focused on cash, focused on managing the decrementals and focused on driving key growth opportunities. And we're doing an excellent job of managing the decrementals and really kept our net income, our cash EPS down at the same level of our sales drop, which is pretty amazing when you consider their profitability level of the company. So I'm pretty pleased with that.
You got it. Thanks, Dave.
Thank you, Matt.
Thank you. And our next question comes from the line of Allison Poliniak with Wells Fargo.
Hi, guys. Good morning.
Good morning, Allison.
Dave, could you talk with I know you mentioned the structural versus cyclical costs. But could you just give a little bit more color on the structural cost savings that you're doing? Is it widespread across the verticals? Or is it focus specific on the more challenged ones like aerospace?
Yes. I would say the structural costs are more focused on the more challenged markets. And they're resizing those businesses to the new demand level that we have. Those businesses are profitable. They'll remain profitable on the way down.
And the way we're looking at it as the businesses start to grow from a bottom, they'll be very profitable on the way up. So there's a quick change in revenue and the team has done an excellent job of adjusting to the new demand level. Also, there was an element of those structural savings that are pulled forward from projects in our strategic plans. So we look forward out every 3 years and we get a time like this, we pull forward some projects that are some efficiencies, some planned consolidations. But mainly the structural while across the board, they were mainly targeted at the commercial aerospace and the oil and gas business.
Great. And then just turning to the M and A market, obviously still challenged there. But could you give us a little color on your pipeline in terms of size? Have you pivoted to a specific end market vertical? And I guess even just comfort level just given the uncertainty relative to the size of potential deals that you're likely looking at?
Yes, right. Great question. I As you know, Allison, M and A remains our first priority and we feel there's going to be a substantial opportunity for us as we get through this crisis because it's going to be pent up demand on deals. And we have the balance sheet and the cash flow generating capability to execute on the opportunity. And while the broader deal activity is due right now, we're very active in pipeline development and we actually have a couple of deals we're looking at right now.
So we're actually in diligence. And those are deals that have been working through our pipeline. There are larger deals and there are smaller deals. So I'm quite optimistic on the pipeline, but you still have the situation where to get to the end of the deal, buyers and sellers have to agree on new pricing expectations based on the cash flow visibility and that impacts the valuation process and we're adjusting our process because we have the inability to perform the face to face diligence that we used to take for granted and we still need to have some of that to feel really comfortable what we're buying. So we still think it's going to be late 2020 before the market returns to some kind of normal, but we are active on some properties right now.
So I'm pretty pleased with how hard the team is driving the pipeline and some good candidates in our pipeline.
Great. Thanks so much.
Thank you.
Thank you. And our next question comes from the line of Josh Pokrzywinski with Morgan Stanley.
Hi, good morning, all.
Good morning, Josh.
Dave, can you just remind us, with all of the structural and temporary costs elements coming in, and I know you're still kind of leaving it open on the Q4 based on demand. How should we all in think about incremental margins for next year? Because obviously, there's a lot of torque in the business, gross margins are high, so volume recovery would feel pretty good. But if I had to cross check that against maybe some of the temporary costs that come out, still fair to say that incrementals can start with a 3 next year? Or should we think about that definitely or maybe more specifically knowing what we know about the temporary side?
Right. That's a great question. And I don't think there's any doubt that incrementals can start with a 3. If you look at past downturns, AMETEK has really driven margin expansion as we come out of the downturns. And the temporary costs we're going to put back in as we progress throughout the year, but that's not stopping us from putting up positive incrementals.
So I think largely, we're going to end up with contribution margins in 2021 in that kind of range and I'm optimistic about that because the other thing you have to factor in is our pricing. Our pricing was very strong in the quarter and it's holding up well and I'm very pleased with it.
Got it. That's helpful. And then kind of a 2 part second question. First, anything on July, I think Matt Summerville asked about it, but I don't know if there's anything specific. And maybe talk around the role of backlog in some of the momentum.
Are you feeling like you're living hand to mouth in most of the businesses? Or was backlog maybe kind of distorting 2Q where there's still some longer cycle businesses that need to run off?
No, our backlog is pretty flat at $1,700,000,000 And as you know, we went through our guidance. But but you and what Matt were asking is a sense of where the business is going forward and we can give you that. I mean, if you start with Q2, our sales, April was the worst and improved in May and further improvement in June. And if you look at that improvement trend and you look at July, which is supportive of it, we think that we'll be down roughly 15% in the Q3. But that's an estimate based on what we know and there are many uncertainties.
But that's kind of what we're tracking to right now. And it kind of links.
Understood. Yes.
Okay.
That's very helpful. Thanks a lot, Dave. I'll get back in queue.
Thanks, Josh.
Thank you. And our next question comes from the line of Nigel Coe with Wolfe Research.
Thanks. Good morning. So you mentioned research. I'm just curious kind of how your research end markets performed. Can't imagine the stay at home, work from home trend is really helpful there.
So just curious what you're seeing next. I know that's more of an EIG kind of exposure. Yes,
I think the I'll break the research market into a couple of different areas. In the material science area of research, both university and corporate R and D, it was weak. Those projects have been pushed to the right. But in the life sciences area, the market is holding up very well. And it was shown by our Gatan business, the business that we acquired last year, they had performed very well, slightly ahead of our expectations and actually had flat revenue year over year in the Q2 for the top line well and that was driven by the life sciences market.
And the Catan products have been influential in the fight against COVID. In fact, the researchers at the University of Texas used a Gatan K3 camera. They were the first people to structurally image the spike protein on the coronavirus. So that's driven a lot of excitement and demand around the demand tools. In fact, the demand Catan K3 was the first person to structure the coronavirus and the next two people that did it used the K2, which is slower.
And the speed of the cameras, the K3 is faster, allowed the researchers to get done quicker. So good demand drivers in that business and it really points there again our research market. There are some areas that are doing very well, some areas that aren't and in certain parts of the world those research institutions have not really opened up. They're still closed. So we're hanging in there, but it's a complex story.
Okay. So on balance, it doesn't feel like it's any worse than the average. And then maybe just a little bit context on the geo markets, if you could give us how U. S, Europe, China, etcetera, are performing versus? And then just on the export exposure, has that changed materially over the last several years?
And I'm just curious how the U. S. Dollar weakness maybe benefits you going forward?
Yes. As you know, we're naturally hedged at the top line and the bottom line based on currency. So the currency swing doesn't really impact our profitability. But when the dollar weakens, we do get more competitive. So it's something that we're looking at.
So it's a good thing for us because we export over $1,000,000,000 And in terms of the geographical storyline, we really have broad based weakness and Europe and the U. S. Were most challenged. Europe was down 29% on broad weakness and it also had a difficult comp because there was some Middle East project business for our oil and gas business. The U.
S. Was down about 20%, but it was pretty broad based. And Asia was the best of the markets that was down mid teens and had notable strength in Asia in our automation business. China improved for us. China was actually up 3%.
So it was a positive rebound in China, driven by our automation and Kamika business. So that's the story, broad based weakness and Asia was the best and driven by China.
Thanks, David. Good luck.
Thank you.
Thank you. And our next question comes from the line of Deane Dray with RBC Capital Markets.
Thank you. Good morning, everyone.
Hello, Deane.
Hey, I did notice that you guys put free cash flow in your release for the first time. So, we really do appreciate that.
I'll let Kevin know that. Kevin's got a smile on his face.
I'm sure he does because I've pestered him about that for quite a while, but we really do appreciate it. But now I feel obligated to ask a free cash flow question. So here it is. Did you benefit at all from the timing of tax payments we've seen in other companies that have had upside on free cash flow? So was that a factor?
Yes, not a huge factor, Dean. It was probably about $18,000,000 or so. So that $183,000,000 would still be a pretty strong number probably in the mid-160s to $170,000,000 kind of a place.
Good. And I really like how you segment the business in those three buckets just to kind of give us the color real time as to the COVID impact. And last quarter, I'm pretty sure you included defense in the better bucket, better performing, and it got called out as a positive mix this quarter as well for EMG. Can you comment on defense and should it be in that bucket?
Defense was in the good markets in both last quarter and this quarter. So defense the buckets haven't changed in defense and medical were positive in Q2 and they were also positive in Q3. And as you recall, our defense business is about 5% of the company and it's doing extremely well. It was up low double digits in the quarter. So while the commercial market was challenged, the defense market was strong.
Great. And then on Gatan, really like that the update there and especially on the imaging of the spore. When is the next generation due to be released? Would that be the K4?
It is. There's a K3 plus and the K4. We're working on them both and we haven't announced when the next one will come to
market. Terrific. All right, last question on CapEx. So you had cut $25,000,000 out just for cash preservation. When might that come back?
And just share with us a bit of your decision making as to what would you trim and why? And when you bring what types of projects do you bring back on? Thanks.
Yes. The important point for us is our RD and E spending is roughly flat with 2019. So we thought that was going to be up coming into the year and we trimmed that back to flat, but we're really investing in RD and E. And the types of things where we've delayed are expansions in regions of the world where we're trying to put extra capacity in place and a new region of the world that we're putting some capacity in. So those kind of projects got delayed.
Quite honestly, we have a decentralized entrepreneurial team and they understand the situation. So they make natural decisions and we really don't have to push that number. That's what comes up to us. That's what our business leaders want to spend. And I can see as we get later in the year, start evaluating turning on some of those expansion projects we have in the various geographies of the world that we put on hold, but it was very difficult to complete those.
That's real helpful. Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you. And our next question comes from the line of Rob Wertheimer with Melius Research.
Thanks and good morning, everybody.
Good morning, Rob. Congratulations on the book.
Thank you so much. It's kind.
So I just had two questions on
the temporary side, if I can. I think last quarter you talked about delays and difficulties in getting the customer sites or whatever, pushing out a little bit of revenue. Is that still ongoing? And does that come back at any point? That's the first.
Yes. That certainly was with us throughout all of Q2. And it's still a bit of an issue, especially now travel in the U. S. And really what it comes to is you can travel, but you're quarantined.
And that was a big issue in China. Now that's abated and it's but that's a spotty issue around the world and it was a big factor in Q2. It will be a diminishing factor in Q3. And then does that is that
a few points of revenue that kind of
come back to you in 4Q
or whenever? Or is there a risk that it cancels? Or is it too small?
No, no. That will come back. And they've been rescheduled and they're pushing things out, but it will definitely come back. Perfect. And then on cost side, if I may, can you kind of roll the temporary costs indefinitely?
The way
you described it, it's obvious that commercial aero may be in trouble, oil and gas for a bit. And so maybe more permanent restructuring is appropriate there. But for the other markets that are just depressed during COVID and we don't
know when it comes back, can you roll that indefinitely? Or does it come a
point where costs have to sort of come back in the system?
Thanks, I'll stop. Yes. That's a good question, Rob. And we did a restructuring early on, you recall, and we think we got the balance correct, but and we'll bring back those temporary costs. But if it gets to the point where there's diminished long term viewpoint on revenue, then it doesn't we can't run with the temporary costs forever.
So it's a I view those temporary costs as coming out coming back during the course of the year. And if demand doesn't come back, then we may have to do something extra on the cost side. But we're certainly not looking at that as a long term situation. Okay, thanks.
Thank you. And our next question comes from the line of Christopher Glynn with Oppenheimer.
Thanks. Good morning, everybody. Dave, you mentioned some different adaptations around delivering, administering some of your aftermarket services operation. I'm wondering if you're revealing any or any businesses coming up with delivery models that might actually delivery levers and kind of remain post COVID?
That's really the case. The accelerated adoption of digital capabilities is really opening our eyes. And it's obviously in the digital marketing area and the way we interact with our customers. The one thing I'd point to is in the we have complex systems that are installed and they need calibrated and need commissioned and we have some service teams that are using augmented reality to remotely service and install our products and really interesting tools right now. So I think some of those will be long lasting and we're certainly adapting our business and learning as we move through this pandemic.
Okay. Thanks.
And then in terms of the Q3 outlook for kind of everything getting a little better versus other than commercial aerospace. Any some areas maybe you could call out where you're seeing the sharpest kind of rebounds and in particular anything just getting back to normal?
Yes. Our automation business is kind of led us back. That's doing well. Our oil and gas business is going to recover, but that's because of a lack of a comp as much as anything. So those two businesses are ones that will recover.
And I think our defense business will be strong. And the other thing we see is in the medical space, we saw really good demand on the COVID related products like COVID testing and COVID breathing apparatus, but we saw the elective surgeries tail off. And then second half of the year, what our med tech customers are telling us is the elective surgeries are going to rebound. So that's the kind of things I pointed to.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you. And our next question comes from the line of Scott Graham with Rosenblatt Securities.
Good morning, Dave, Bill Cap.
Good morning, Scott.
So I wanted to understand a little bit more on the cost side where you talked about Q3, your cost reductions are going to be $65,000,000 If my calculations here are right that you were a little bit below what the annualized number would be for Structural in the quarter and that that should pick up in the second half of the year, which would suggest a pretty significant reduction in your temporary in the third quarter, yet you're not providing full year EPS guidance. So I guess I'm trying to maybe connect those dots there if you're dropping down on temporary. Why don't you feel more comfortable with giving guide?
Yes. There are too many variables and uncertainties to give guidance with our typical precision. And I do appreciate your question and I understand why you're asking for that information at normal times. We give you that type of information, but these are normal times. And we withdrew our guidance and we just don't feel comfortable putting it back in place because of COVID and the lack of visibility and the typical precision that we have.
Can I maybe take a stab at one of them? Would it be that you're unable to predict what your second half mix will be? Is that part of it?
No, I don't think that's I mean, I was pleased that the mix held up, the pricing held up. That isn't a concern. It's really, if you think about it, we're in a pandemic. And we can have hotspots show up in places and we're constantly managing things. So there's a lot of uncertainty now and we just don't feel we can give guidance with a typical
Maybe you can just kind of call out specifically what you saw in the quarter in automation, power, research specifically and maybe if you could split for us commercial aerospace OE versus aftermarket?
Right.
I'll take you through the market segment commentary because that covers a lot of ground and I think we'll be able to answer your questions there. In our process business, overall sales were down high teens in the quarter and we had the contributions from Gatan offset by organic sales declines in line with AMETEK's organic sales decline. And we talked about widespread travel restrictions and in addition to project push outs and delays in our ability to provide service. So that impacted process significantly. And the largest weakness in process was our oil and gas business.
Our medical businesses performed well in the quarter as did our Zygo business. Zygo is seeing solid growth driven by some semiconductor fabrication work in the Extreme EUV. And while the end markets remain challenged and visibility is limited, we do expect to see sequential improvements in the 3rd and 4th quarters across our process businesses, including oil and gas. In Aerospace, we've talked about that. We were the defense business was up low double digits.
The commercial business was down in the high 40s. In the commercial business, the aftermarket was a little worse and the OE was a little better. We expect our defense businesses to stay strong in the 3rd Q4 and the commercial aerospace business, it's bouncing around bottom and we may have some shifts between aftermarket and OE, but we're not calling that one out as improving. We may be conservative on that, but that's where we are. In our Power and Industrial business, they were down in the high 20 range.
A lot of similar dynamics to our process business, demand impacted by the global shutdowns and travel restrictions. And we're looking to the orders in our power business were stronger. And we're looking to a second half where we expect conditions to improve modestly with sequential growth in both our power and industrial businesses. And finally, our Automation and Engineered Solutions business, they were down mid teens on a percentage of basis. And we're seeing automation trends improve across Asia within China and healthcare is the other big driver for automation business.
So we're seeing good sequential improvements there and we expect that to continue in the second half.
That's great. Thanks so much.
Thank you, Scott.
Thank you. And our next question comes from the line of Ivana Delevsko with Gordon Haskett.
Good morning, guys.
Good morning, Ivana.
So I just wanted to ask about the structural cost opportunities as we get into next year. I know there were some volume related benefits that you were originally expecting to get this year that may get pushed out to next year. So could you just give us a sense of like how do you see next year shaping up and what will be the different buckets?
Sure. We haven't done a lot of thinking about next year at this point, but the one thing that we do know, we'll probably have about $50,000,000 45 $1,000,000 or $50,000,000 flowing over into next year from the structural reductions that we did in 2020. So we'll have a good head start on whatever cost reduction plans that we put together and we'll couple that with a traditional material cost outs and the other projects that we'll put together. And we typically have a pretty healthy project list and we decide on that list during our budgeting process. So haven't really done much planning, but we have a good head start with the structural flow over from the things we've done in 2020.
And how much was the volume like sourcing expected to help this year that didn't materialize because of the environment?
Yes. Sourcing was a big driver. I'm just going from memory now and Kevin can check this with Kevin before that. But we probably lost about $10,000,000 or $20,000,000 of sourcing savings that because the volume isn't there and we had to make that up by the other structural savings.
Perfect. And just one more question in terms of synergy realization. Could you compare next year to this year in terms of how much synergies do you expect from the different deals and the timing?
Yes. The way I can answer that is we're on track with all of our deals. I mentioned Gatan, that's the biggest deal that we did last year and we just did review that business and we're actually slightly ahead of our acquisition model. So when we combine that business with our EDAC's business, it's another business within our portfolio and they're in the same market. So that combination is driving good synergy and because they have the same customer base and all
of our
acquisitions are progressing and we're certainly focused on the synergy And some of the top line may not be there, but we're focused on the synergy. And it's pretty hard to tell you right now in 2021 what that's going to be. We'll typically tell you that in the beginning of 2021 when we go through everything and understand it at a granular level what actually is going to happen and what we're going to do.
Thank you very much.
Thank you.
Thank you. And our next question comes from the line of Andrew Obin with Bank of America.
Hi, yes. Good morning. Good morning.
I'm going to try the first question. So one of sort of companies that I covered today sort of took a stab at when they thought revenues were going to turn flat year over year. Would you guys care to guess if and when that happens? Hopefully, when?
Not going to guess at that.
Okay. I figured that much. You guys highlighted automation doing well. Could you talk, are you seeing any of your customers sort of moving their supply chains around the globe? And what are the sources outside of China of automation doing well?
Yes, that's a good question. And we are seeing that. Supply chains are regionalizing. So there was a point of time where there was some overdependence on China. And I think a lot of companies are reconfiguring their supply chains and there's some reoccurring activities going on.
And that's going to help us because our process businesses help businesses manufacture things efficiently and at lower cost. And it's happening the seeds of that are just beginning now, but that's going to be a good long term driver for us.
And what industries do you care what industries are you seeing reshoring in, particularly North America?
Yes. It's just the beginnings. And but there's definitely plans in place for a lot of companies to make their supply chains more durable. And we're seeing volume intake potential volume upticks in places like the U. S.
And Europe for reshoring activities. But this is really on the early edges of it. And but it's fundamentally people want regionalized supply chains and want to reduce their dependence on parts of the world.
And then on M and A front, you sort of highlighted that you're engaged in some due diligence, some of these are smaller deals. So how do you look at your sort of firepower in terms of how much can you spend on M and A over the next couple of years? And how big a deal can you guys get to?
Yes. I mean, I look at it like we certainly can look at our free cash flow, look at our operating cash flow, it's a $1,000,000,000 plus year type thing and we have current liquidity of about $2,100,000,000 So very clearly, our balance sheet strong. I think Bill mentioned that it delevered during the Q2. So in a pandemic when our top line was down 22%, our balance sheet deleveraged. That's a testament.
I don't know if you want to comment on that, Bill?
Well, I think we certainly Dave, you mentioned that $2,000,000,000 we could do more than that and still remain below our covenants. But as we've always said, this is not a capital constrained strategy. This is more about finding the right businesses that will move the portfolio in the right direction and drive the returns that we're looking for. But the strength of the balance sheet can certainly support several couple of $1,000,000,000 worth of deals.
And more appetite for larger deals going forward?
We're looking at some larger deals. Gatan, we spent close to $1,000,000,000 on and we have some businesses that are in our pipeline right now that are of that size.
Thank you so much.
Thank you, Andrew.
Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of Andrew Buscaglia with Berenberg.
Good morning, guys.
Good morning, Andrew.
Can you forgive me if I missed this. Did you can you comment on the price versus cost in the quarter?
Yes. You didn't miss it. We talked about it, but we didn't give the numbers. And very pleased to see our pricing held up well. Q2 was similar to Q1.
We achieved about a 0.5 of price across the entire business. And total inflation and the impact of tariffs was a little less than 1%. So, but a good positive spread added to margins and that drove some of the margin and performance in the quarter.
Okay.
And David, you've been around the block a few times. Given you've had a few more months to kind of digest what's going on and the situation with aerospace, last quarter everything was so fresh. Do you have any updated commentary about what you're seeing, what you're hearing from customers and how you expect that market to go over the next couple of years?
It's going to take several years to get passengers back to the same volume in 2019. There is no doubt about that. And the base our base model for aerospace assumes that there is a medical solution to the virus, whether it's a vaccine or a therapeutic and people have to be comfortable flying again and that's going to take some time. But we're balanced in our aerospace and our military business is doing extremely well and we're very pleased with our portfolio. It's a high quality set of markets.
So we think we're well positioned with our leadership positions to recover with the market and recover profitably. But that's one market that we're going to have to it's going to depend on the government funding. It's going to depends on capacity decisions of many airlines. It's going to depends on the confidence of the flying public. So are still some uncertainties associated with that.
So we just manage what we know and we can resize the business. And I was running our aerospace business back on 9eleven. So been through a similar type of hit and you look at what our aerospace has done since then, we resized it and it's been a tremendous contributor to AMETEK over the time and we're doing the same thing right now. So we have a great team in aerospace and leadership positions in many areas, excellent positions with wide moats and we're controlling what we control right now and but it's certainly going to be an extended recovery.
All right. Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of Richard Eastman with R. W. Baird.
Yes. Thanks for the questions. Dave, just to expand on your last answer there, could you just recalibrate us on maybe the percentage of the business at AMETEK that is aerospace? And also how the four businesses maybe will perform or the 4 segments will perform for 2020?
Yes. I mean the aerospace presence is 15% of sales and that's 5% of that 15% is in the military market and 10% of that 15% is in the commercial market. And that commercial market includes our OE market, includes our business gen market, includes our 3rd party aftermarket. And that's the business that we're saying, it's a small part of our company, about 10%, but we're saying that we're not seeing as clearly a recovery path during the second half of the year. I think we did a little better in Q2.
So we call that at maybe 45% for the balance of the year. But it gets pretty difficult to get too granular on that market right now because you don't know what many variables that you don't control are happening and we're just managing what we can control. In terms of the process business, we're saying we're going to grow in Q3 and Q4 and that includes our oil and gas business. In terms of power and industrial, we're saying we're going to grow in Q3 and Q4. And in terms of our automation and engineered solutions, we're going to grow in Q3 and Q4.
So we think that sequential improvement that we're seeing will continue as the economy gets back to normal.
Okay. Okay. And then just one question on the gross margin. Bill, the gross margin declined maybe 110 basis points, I guess, year over year. Could you just break that out a little bit?
It sounds like you had a positive contribution from price, maybe only 30 basis points or something. But could you just give us a little bit of a walk up there or walk down on the 110 basis
points? Yes. I think the I think you've got the positive there in terms of the price versus cost. But what you're really dealing with is just the reduction in the sales levels, you're just getting the decremental margins on the fixed costs. So I don't think there's anything more
interesting. Yes. Okay. All right. And mix here, was mix much of an issue here between EMG?
Again, I guess, you favor EMG a little bit with less of a decline versus EIG. So mix was negative there?
I think the military market and the healthcare market held up well for EMG and then EIG. We have a good part of commercial aerospace and you also have the oil and gas business.
Okay. Okay, very good. Thank you.
Thank you, Rick.
Thank you. And our next question comes from the line of Joe Giordano with Cowen.
Hey, guys. Good morning.
Good morning, Joe.
Hey, correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the view last quarter from an organic standpoint was that EIG probably does a little bit better than EMG. So curious as to like what kind of shifted during the quarter from a market standpoint that would have kind of flipped that around?
Yes. Everybody here is shaking their heads. We didn't signal EIG would be better than EMG. We talked about the automation business getting stronger. We talked about the military business and And commercial aerospace.
Commercial aerospace was going to be weak and oil and gas is going to be weak and those are predominantly in ENG. So it kind of laid out like we thought.
Okay, fair enough. And then on R and D side, you talked about some of the advancements some of your businesses made during the quarter, new launches.
Can you just kind of talk to
us about how I mean R and D is so critical to what you guys do and how are you guys doing it in this environment with social distancing in this and what has had to change in order to allow R and D to progress at this pace?
Yes, that's a great question. Great question, Joe. And I've been pleasantly surprised at the quality and effectiveness, and we're getting the work done. But for R and D, it's not ideal. I mean, we have to have technicians interact with engineers and they have to find a way to get together and there's a certain spontaneity and productivity that comes with people getting together.
So we're still learning, but we're using the tools and doing things safely and we're making good progress. But it's certainly an issue that we specifically have worked on and it holds us back certainly. But the digital tools are helping mitigate the problems.
Thanks, Ed.
Thank you, Joe.
Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating and you may now disconnect.