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Wells Fargo 21st Annual Healthcare Conference

Sep 9, 2026

Summary

Leadership transition brings a focus on organic growth, operational excellence, and disciplined M&A. Key initiatives include optimizing service lines, leveraging technology for efficiency, and shifting to a national payer contracting strategy. IMPACT program and payer negotiations are offsetting volume volatility and cost pressures.

Moderator

Yeah. Thanks everyone for joining us. Pleased to have Ardent Health joining us. As I'm sure many of you know, Ardent's an operator of acute care hospitals. With us from the company, Dave Caspers, CEO, Alfred Lumsdaine, CFO, and IR, David Styblo. Thank you for joining us. First, opportunity to make any introductory commentary you'd like, but obviously there's a lot to talk about within the leadership transition as well. Just let us know where you'd like to start and we'll get right to it. Awesome. We'll jump right in. Dave, maybe with your transition to the CEO role, maybe just spend a minute taking us through what are your top priorities? Why are these the top priorities, and what changes as you move into this role, and what your key focuses are?

Dave Caspers
President and CEO, Ardent Health

You bet. Thank you. Our strategy or my key focus is really isolate on three particular elements, and you can see them on the slide there. First, of course, is organic growth. Inside of organic growth, we're really focused on what we call Capacity IQ, which is really getting the best and smartest use of our assets to really drive margin. Secondarily is operational performance. Inside of there is strengthening margin.

When I think about strengthening margin and operational performance, we have a program that we call IMPACT, which is Improving Margin Performance Agility and Care Transformation. The focus there, of course, is despite any headwinds on the top line, is to deliver bottom line EBITDA. Last is really our disciplined M&A activity. Our team is laser focused on reviewing all of our portfolio and assets to make the best decision with each of those, as well as to look at every opportunity we can have to make the next best decision to our portfolio in both directions.

Moderator

Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Well, maybe just start with Capacity IQ. It might not be something that everyone's kind of familiar with in the room. Maybe give us just a minute on what that means and maybe a couple practical examples of what that translates to in the actual operations of the business.

Dave Caspers
President and CEO, Ardent Health

You bet. Capacity IQ really came from this idea and understanding, obviously, that not all service lines are created equal.

Moderator

Yeah.

Dave Caspers
President and CEO, Ardent Health

You have some service lines that have a particular customer demand that's high, that also matches a particular margin that's healthy. And the smarter we are about increasing our access in those particular categories, and decreasing or, through atrophy, managing the other service lines so that we have the richest outcome with margin is really critical. That's an example. A second example would be brick and mortar bed utilization or imaging utilization, and ensuring that we have the right equipment with the right processes to get the full utilization out of that asset is really critical. There are many parts of the equation to Capacity IQ, but it's us getting laser beam focused on the right financial outcome and the right operational procedures to maximize both.

Moderator

Okay. Yeah. And is there a way to kind of frame where you are from a staging perspective with Capacity IQ? Is this something that you'd say is like, hey, we're still in the first inning, maybe the game hasn't started yet? Is this something that you've probably seen a little bit more impact from in the results at this point already?

Dave Caspers
President and CEO, Ardent Health

Yeah. Nope. We're clearly past the first inning in it.

Moderator

Okay.

Dave Caspers
President and CEO, Ardent Health

You may have heard us in our quarter two earnings describe inside of the operating room, the level of volume impact. We did reduce specific categories that were negative margin categories coming into the OR, as an example.

Moderator

Yeah.

Dave Caspers
President and CEO, Ardent Health

You'll also see us getting more laser beam focused on cardiovascular and NICU, mom, women, baby in particular, and you'll see us grow those categories and really ensure that we have the right customer access, ensure that we have limited leakage, and ensure that we have the right success in those specific categories.

Moderator

Okay. When we think about the operational excellence side, it sounds like some of these initiatives have been in focus for quite a while. I guess when we think about parts of the operational excellence strategy that are kind of the same and constant versus maybe change under your leadership, I guess, how do we think about the components of that and what's going to drive up margins over time?

Dave Caspers
President and CEO, Ardent Health

Sure. I think an easy place to talk about the success we've had is really around SWB and looking at the improvements we've made there. Our portfolio has migrated from being viewed as a location by location to a campus based and national based organization. The ability to match the structure to that has been able to drive 15% of our C-suite costs in the markets out of that equation, for example. That kind of leanness, it speeds up the flow of information. It ensures that we're focused on the same priorities to deliver excellence.

Moderator

Okay. On the IMPACT program broadly, that's a big driver for you. Can you talk a little bit more about what the IMPACT program is made up of? What the key initiatives are within IMPACT? Key milestones that you've achieved, and kind of what's still in front of you related to IMPACT specifically.

Dave Caspers
President and CEO, Ardent Health

You bet. IMPACT is really three different parts. The first is improving margin, which you heard me mention a little bit around Capacity IQ. That is embedded in there. The second is around performance agility, and that represents our ability to move with speed. The third is care transformation. Let's talk about a specific element of care transformation as an example. We have deployed hellocare.ai, which is a necessary tool and element that allows us to care for our patients differently.

It also allows us to enhance the outcome to our patients and improve the efficiency. An example of which, the tool allows us to take care of patients who would normally require a sitter. The previous productivity level would be one for one. The productivity level using care.ai allows us to be 10 to one or greater, which if you think about the ability to enhance productivity through that or through changing the way in which we discharge patients.

Our ability to be in the patient's room immediately, leveraging virtual care technology to better educate them, give them the full and ample time that they need, and to expedite their discharge, has improved our length of stay, which is part of full utilization of capacity. As we started the program in 2025, we turned in the first $5 million. As we turn the page on 2026, we've moved the number twice and are at $70 million and counting. We have a conveyor belt full of balance of activities for this quarter and for 2027. We've stood up a team that we call Optimization and Performance Improvement, or OPI. That team's job is to constantly evaluate where engineering can take place and sharpen and reduce expenses, sharpen margin and reduce expenses. You'll see this carry forward well into 2027 and beyond.

Moderator

Okay, great. Another newer strategic initiative appears to be what you are doing around payer recontracting. At a high level, maybe just take us through how this opportunity has become more clear in recent periods and how you are thinking about identifying and what the potential is here over time across the company.

Dave Caspers
President and CEO, Ardent Health

Yeah. I am going to start off with kind of three pieces of this equation. Then I am going to turn it over to Alfred to speak in the details and specifics of how we are performing. As we looked at payer strategies, or I call them payer hydraulics, our ability to get lift off of those elements, we first needed to get on offense with our legal team, ensuring we got paid for the work we did.

Moderator

Yeah.

Dave Caspers
President and CEO, Ardent Health

The second piece of that is really our partnership with Ensemble. The partnership with Ensemble helps us to organize our data, understand the situation with speed, and leverage their technology and our partnership to both move forward with legal equations and also to translate to the payer strategy team clear data of where we are today, where negotiation should be, and how we deserve to have the appropriate contract in the right communities for the business that we do provide care for. We have pivoted from location-based payer strategies and negotiations to a national payer strategy and negotiations. We have shifted those negotiations to be more in alignment so we can move at a regular basis in years to come. I will ask Alfred to speak to the success that he has been driving through this and we have been seeing through this.

Alfred Lumsdaine
CFO, Ardent Health

Oh, thanks, Dave. I think that last point is really important, moving from a local team and a local strategy to more of a national team, national strategy. There just are local dynamics when you are negotiating a contract. Unfortunately, we are in a world that having to push really hard, moving the negotiation to the last minute seems to be just part of the playbook. It is unfortunate, but it is the reality that we deal with. Having the data now, through the transparency data, gives us, we will call it leverage in the negotiation. Look, we just want to be paid fairly for the work we are doing in the market, be paid rates that are on par for the quality outcomes that we are delivering in those markets.

We have had, as we have implemented this strategy in the last year, we have brought in a new team, integrated it with our revenue cycle team to really have a revenue integrity team. We have negotiated four contracts since this new strategy and new team was put into place. We are seeing mid-single digits, which is above our historical recent history from a rate perspective. Equally important, we are also yielding improvements in contract terms. One of these contracts, as an example, we were seeing initial denial rates of 70%, which is just not a sustainable, not a tolerable place to be. We implemented governance around the application of denials that will bring that denial rate down significantly. So again, an equally important part of it. So inside of our current year, we saw out of a single contract that went live on June 1st.

A $5 million-$10 million lift above our budgeted expectations for this year. Of course, we will see a tailwind from that going into next year. But we do see, as we go through the renewal cycle over the next two to three years, that we are seeing early benefits from this strategy that we think are sustainable for the next renewal cycle.

Moderator

Yeah, I guess when you think about the kind of the timeline on this, I think most people's mental model is like, hey, it is going to take three years to kind of cycle through all your contracts. Is that how you think about the realization of the opportunity? You are going to go through this three-year cycle, then you will get some of what you think you are owed, but there is still going to be more opportunity in front of the company, because I am sure that managed care is not going to just do everything you want, probably quite overnight in all cases.

Alfred Lumsdaine
CFO, Ardent Health

No, I think that's right. I think you're thinking about it in the right framework, that it is a multi-year strategy, multi-year cycle, and candidly, just the resource intensity to actually go through this will, and the potential disruption in the market. In one of these four renewals, we actually had to go out of market for 30 days just because, again, to get the outcome that we think and need, it took actually going out of market. In the other three cases, it went right to the very we'll say days or day before the expiration of the contract. Unfortunately, in those cases, those end up hitting the media, letters have to go to members.

Moderator

Yeah.

Alfred Lumsdaine
CFO, Ardent Health

But we are just in a world where that does seem to be a part of the playbook.

Moderator

Got it. Okay. Maybe another one now that you're warmed up a little bit, just with Dave's transition to the CEO role. What's changing for you, or how you spend your time, what your priorities are? How does that look a little bit different over the next couple of years?

Alfred Lumsdaine
CFO, Ardent Health

Sure. No, appreciate the question. I think, and Dave's really hit on it already, Dave's been with the organization, first as COO and now as CEO, so for close to a year and a half now. Dave's introduction to the company, he architected the IMPACT Program, which he's already oriented you to in this conversation, and I think just that focusing on the controllables, Capacity IQ, how do we invest in the areas that will create the highest margin, how do we reduce focus on those areas that are not contributing to the overall margin profile and our long-term growth. What are the things we can control and focusing on those. Because we all know the headwinds in the business are well documented. We believe we're well positioned from being in the right markets and with a footprint that we can yield further optimization.

That, to Dave's earlier point, that is not a one-year strategy. That is a multi-year plan that we are well into. I think that is a huge focus for the entire organization.

Moderator

Okay. Maybe one more high-level question before we get into some more of the trends. The team seems to have started talking more about your clinical engine. Can you tell us more about the collection of assets there and how you are leveraging that to help run the business better?

Dave Caspers
President and CEO, Ardent Health

You bet. There are multiple aspects for the clinical engine to be such a critical component to us. One of which, of course, is getting AI right and selecting the right vendors and partners who are ahead of the game. In that selection, Epic, Ensemble Health Partners, hellocare.ai, Ambient, Qventus, Workday, very essential for us. We have our first trade show where those vendors come to us to walk us through their next 12 months of architected improvement so that our enhancements on our own work and their enhancements form a confluence that drives value. Our long-term play, of course, is to create as much value as we can. To do that, we are going to have to engineer like we have never engineered to create that value in order to do both things, margin up and expenses down.

Dedicating and committing to a core set of partners who can help us do that is essential in our roadmap.

Moderator

Okay. Another area of focus more recently across both your business and the broader sector has just been surgical trends. They were volatile in the second quarter. Inpatient was down a good deal more than outpatient. I think some of the decline, as you spoke to earlier, was the result of deliberate targeted actions for less profitable service lines. I guess, could you just update us on the variance versus what your internal expectations might have been for both inpatient and outpatient on the surgical side?

Dave Caspers
President and CEO, Ardent Health

You bet. Before we get into those details, one of the things that encourages me about the situation is there is pent-up demand. Our urgent cares, our clinics, our referral centers, our transfer centers, and our emergency room accepts are all trending very positive. Our ability to translate those and to move through specialty clinical services is really critical. Our ability to translate that and move forward is what gives us strong positive possibilities for the fourth quarter. Asking in the specifics of the performance, I will turn that over to Alfred for what we are seeing.

Alfred Lumsdaine
CFO, Ardent Health

We have already touched on some of the dynamic with the Capacity IQ and the focus on the more profitable service lines. That effort yielded essentially half of the surgical decline was directly attributable to those intentional decisions where we were walking back from certain service lines. To your point, it has been volatile. We had a relatively stable, our surgical volume was actually up just a little in Q1. Then we saw a pretty significant, when we announced Dave's promotion to CEO, we also announced a fairly soft Q2 surgical backdrop, where April and May were quite soft, 5%-6% down. We certainly saw a better June, July, and that again, that is a real focus on very short periods of time.

Moderator

Yeah, sure.

Alfred Lumsdaine
CFO, Ardent Health

But that level of volatility was a little bit new this year, and we think somewhat attributable to the overall macro environment as well as the exchange dynamics with a certain number of folks coming off the exchange during that time period. We did see that, again, stabilization in that June-July timeframe. We are certainly not forecasting for any improvement over the back half of the year from a year-over-year perspective, that we took that Q2 volume and really forecast that out for the rest of the year, from an overall year-over-year perspective. And we also announced that for us, that was about a $25 million expected IMPACT for the year. And the good news, with the IMPACT Program, we accelerated and increased a number of initiatives as well as the payer contract that I mentioned that renewed June 1.

The aggregate of those efforts fully offset the dynamic of the softer surgical volume. Having said all that, we are in a little bit of a challenge overall surgical environment. Dave's point, the top of the funnel looks pretty good. We see high demand at our clinics, high demand at our urgent cares and ER. So if to the extent that we see better conversion than we saw in Q2, that would be upside to the rest of the year.

Moderator

Yeah.

Dave Caspers
President and CEO, Ardent Health

When I think of, if you don't mind me adding a few things.

Moderator

Of course.

Dave Caspers
President and CEO, Ardent Health

One of the things I like about the IMPACT program is the performance agility. When I think about the middle of the P&L, our ability to respond to manage the number of ORs we have open, our pro fees associated to those ORs, is really critical to protecting the bottom line. I think going back to what Alfred might be experiencing that's different now is that we move with great speed to demonstrate that. We know those headwinds are going to exist, but our ability to maneuver to protect the bottom line is really, really critical. Secondarily, now is a really important time for healthcare to deliver and not allow any leakage. There are patients in need that are flowing through our system, and our ability to tighten up that leakage to ensure the flow through is really, really critical, as is meeting the customer where they are.

Moderator

Yeah.

Dave Caspers
President and CEO, Ardent Health

The customer has pressures, and our ability to help them with payment plans and all necessary elements.

Moderator

Yeah

Dave Caspers
President and CEO, Ardent Health

To ensure they get the care they need is important, because that cannot be postponed for very long.

Moderator

Sure. Yeah. It is an interesting topical point. There was just an article, I think, in The Wall Street Journal over the weekend about more adoption from health systems and other providers about sort of pre-screening for ability to pay co-pays and deductibles. In some cases requiring some kind of form of payment to be established prior to making procedures. I think a natural area of concern, or maybe speculation might be a better way to frame it, is just that that could be leading to some of the deferral that you are talking about. I guess, one, do you think that is potentially something that we could be seeing here? Maybe people are waiting until there is more co-pay and deductible coverage before doing things.

I guess specifically to your system, have you started to make any changes that require more upfront payment before establishing procedure schedules and getting people into the OR?

Dave Caspers
President and CEO, Ardent Health

We have always had a very good discipline at upfront payments. So good that we need to walk it back and soften our approach. To ensure that it meets the customer where they are. Secondarily, are we seeing signals? Yes. One of the signals I look at is cancellation rates. Cancellation rates on imaging and cancellation rates on near-term surgery. As we manage that, we have had to respond by leveraging some of Qventus' tools that farm forward potential cases that are in the waiting, so we are not under-utilizing those resources because case volume is there.

Moderator

Yeah. Okay. Dave, you talked a little bit about the Qventus backbone, but I don't think folks are as familiar with Qventus. You want to give the investors a little bit more color about how we use that and how that fits into our portfolio?

Dave Caspers
President and CEO, Ardent Health

Sure. I am glad you asked. Qventus does a good job helping us to manage the number of rooms to be open, times and schedules, and are we efficient to the estimated times and schedules for those procedures. As well as a connector point between us and non-employed specialty clinicians. That connection between us and non-employed allow for easier case loading and case management understanding so that block time is fully utilized. That efficiency where we are bringing together our internal system with our non-employed partners system is really essential for productivity.

Moderator

Okay.

Dave Caspers
President and CEO, Ardent Health

Much of it is driven through AI tools that predicts, analyzes, and anticipates what to pull forward.

Moderator

Okay. Great. If we kind of step back a little bit from just the pure focus on surgical, the overall volume picture for you is pretty strong in the first half of the year. Adjusted admissions up over 2%, which is encouraging to see. I guess, as you think about growth in, again, we will talk about the exchanges in a moment, so maybe setting that a little bit aside, how do you think about the kind of growth you are seeing across different payer classes, whether it is commercial versus Medicare versus Medicaid?

Alfred Lumsdaine
CFO, Ardent Health

Yeah, I'll touch on just from an overall payer distribution. The biggest challenge, of course, this year has been, not surprisingly on the commercial side. The exchange dynamics are well documented, although for us, we've actually seen, I'd say, a little better exchange volume than some of our, or maybe substantially better than some of our peers yet.

Moderator

Yeah.

Alfred Lumsdaine
CFO, Ardent Health

I think that's certainly partially attributable to the markets we're in. Some of those, like New Mexico, had a substantial replacement of the exchange subsidies, and we've actually seen growth in the exchange volumes in that state. So it isn't kind of one size fits all. We actually have seen where we have seen people leave the exchange. We've actually seen pretty substantial number moving into other forms of coverage, whether that's commercial or government coverage as well. Overall, I would say it's been a little bit muted. Strictly from a payer mix perspective, commercial has seen the most challenge this year. Which we do attribute largely to those ability to pay dynamics with higher deductibles and co-pays.

Moderator

Okay.

Alfred Lumsdaine
CFO, Ardent Health

That goes back to exactly what Dave said, of being positioned to work with our patients and consumers so that we're meeting them where they are.

Moderator

Got it. Okay. For the exchange volumes that remain in the system, maybe this was a bit less pronounced in some of your markets, but we have seen a decent amount of shift from products that have less cost sharing to products that have more as people try to stay in the market and have lower premiums. I guess, how has the company been thinking about this aspect of the exchange headwind? I guess when you think about the timeline to actually collect on some of these cost sharing items, I guess at this point, do you feel like you have enough visibility to be kind of fully comfortable on that front? Or at what point would you feel like that's a little bit more well-defined? If not?

Alfred Lumsdaine
CFO, Ardent Health

Yeah, I do think we're certainly not immune, even with the lower exchange exposure than some of our peers, to the underlying dynamics that you've heard others talk about with somewhat increase in bad debt exposure, just given the higher amounts of deductibles and related co-pay items. You're right, there has been a pretty pronounced shift out in the metal levels inside of the exchange volumes. We've seen 12% move. Gold stayed pretty well where it was in 2025, but we've seen a substantial move out of silver into bronze levels. There's good news attached to that. It's probably that the underlying utilization is lower in those levels anyway. Again, for us, I think the IMPACT has been less pronounced than maybe we've seen some of our peers said.

But it's certainly one of those headwinds that we have as we think about IMPACT program and how do we respond to the overall macro environment, and how do we do it in a very fast way, where we have been able to fully offset that lower volume, lower payer, less high commercial payer mix, and being able to fully offset that inside of the year.

Moderator

Okay.

David Styblo
SVP of Investor Relations, Ardent Health

The good news on that too, Steve, is right at the beginning of the year, our guidance embedded a $35 million head when related to exchange and those unfavorable payer dynamics that come associated with that. As Alfred was talking about earlier, some of the pressures weren't as pronounced, at least in the first half. We continue to keep a prudent outlook for the year, but so far it's been well contained within our guidance range.

Alfred Lumsdaine
CFO, Ardent Health

Tracked right. Consistent with our expectations.

Moderator

Great. To shift a little bit to the cost side. The labor performance year to date has been very strong. I think SWB is up maybe less than 1% on an AA basis. Contract labor is down a good deal. Maybe update us on the labor picture. I think obviously some of the initiatives on length of stay are clearly having a positive effect, but how do you think about the durability of this cost performance and stepping back a little bit, it feels like we have started to see a slowdown in broader wage inflation in the acute care market and things like openings and turnover starting to ease a little bit as well. I guess, how are you thinking about how labor might look over the next couple of years?

Dave Caspers
President and CEO, Ardent Health

First of all, I'm very proud of what the team has done. We've been very organized through our optimization team and IMPACT to be thoughtful about every structure and every productivity level, whether it is in nursing or in imaging, or in the ICU or provider productivity. We have standards and protocols to those standards that ensure a great clinical outcome and deliver the productivity that we're looking for. Tools, as we mentioned before, like hellocare.ai, where we go from patients who need a safe sitter with them of a 1:1 ratio to a 10:1 ratio changes the game. We've deployed hellocare.ai in a third of our markets, and will be fully deployed by Q1 of 2027. That changes the game in improving efficiency. That care transformation, which is the tail end of IMPACT.

Which by the way, to me, IMPACT is not a defense strategy, it's an offense strategy. Really important to call out. This allows us to push forward and continue to redesign, which is instrumental because our ability to deliver the bottom line is really determined by how we engineer the midsection of the P&L. We can do that.

Moderator

Okay. Professional fee growth is moderated. Some still running at a fairly high level relative to the rest of the P&L. I guess, as you're starting to probably work on contracting for 2027, I guess, how are you thinking about the trajectory of pro fee growth going forward?

Dave Caspers
President and CEO, Ardent Health

Pro fee growth. When we think about Capacity IQ, keeping the right number of doors, locations, imaging, ERs, ORs open appropriately is the most important controllable we have in controlling pro fees. At least my opinion. Alfred, I don't know if you want to speak to what we're seeing in the numbers or what we're forecasting.

Alfred Lumsdaine
CFO, Ardent Health

Sure. Yeah. At a tactical level, what we've seen in 2026 is 100% consistent with what we expected. Which we saw a significant spike in our pro fee growth, particularly radiology middle of last year into Q3. As we lap that, we are expecting to see a decline in the year-over-year rate of growth. In the first half, we've been low double digits. In the second half, we would expect that to moderate to high single digits. I would say, working with our providers as well to how can we create more of a, I'll call it a cost-plus relationship where we're proactively working to manage. So I do think that we'll see our expectations for 2027. I don't want to speak too detailed to 2027, but I do think we would expect to see a continuation of that moderation.

We're not in a world where that's going to go to any kind of overall inflation rate.

Dave Caspers
President and CEO, Ardent Health

Of course.

Alfred Lumsdaine
CFO, Ardent Health

But I do think that we'll see a continued abatement of the year-over-year pressure.

Moderator

Okay. Then maybe another one for you, Alfred. Just when we think about the guidance for this year, I guess, how should we think about the assumptions you've made in the back half? Obviously it seems like you're assuming that there'll be a greater impact than maybe previously expected in terms of the ramping of that. So that's one thing to consider, I guess. How would you describe the assumptions that you're making around any kind of change in either the demand environment or the cost environment? I guess, what has to happen for you to deliver on your guidance?

Alfred Lumsdaine
CFO, Ardent Health

Yeah, I think our commentary post Q2 remains fully intact, that the softer overall largely surgical volume environment would be completely offset by the acceleration and growth in our IMPACT initiatives, as well as improved payer contracting. That thesis remains intact. As I already mentioned, to the extent that we see a stronger overall surgical environment, that would be upside to our expectations, given our forecast embedded continuation of Q2 volumes at a surgical level from a year-over-year perspective. There is a thesis that one could have that because the softness in surgical volumes has been most pronounced in those payer sources that carry higher deductibles and co-pays, perhaps we're in an environment where there's even a more substantial seasonality dynamic with folks coming, trying to get care at the end of the year than we've even seen in past years. We'll see.

We're not there yet, and that's certainly not embedded in our expectations.

Moderator

Okay. When we think about some of the transactions, the companies that I think you've added around, I don't know, 25 plus urgent care and ASC sites through a mix of acquisitions and I guess also some de novos in those numbers too. Just maybe update us on how those perform against underwriting. I guess, what are the biggest areas of focus? I guess you just announced a smaller ASC acquisition in the Amarillo market. I guess, how does that fit within the overall ambulatory ASC strategy you have?

Dave Caspers
President and CEO, Ardent Health

Yeah, we're gaining. On the urgent care front, we had some learning curves.

Moderator

Okay.

Dave Caspers
President and CEO, Ardent Health

Now we are gaining very good stride in the care and the volumes of patients that we're able to meet, which is really important today for the consumer. Many consumers need that front door to be very reliable. We're seeing the strategy work, and the way we can see that is with our new patient growth. We're seeing over 5% new patient growth, which is really important.

Moderator

Okay.

Dave Caspers
President and CEO, Ardent Health

Which is why you heard me mention earlier our ability to seal off the leakage to make sure that those consumers are well taken care of in their patient journey, all the way through their needs, because our access points are working.

Moderator

Okay, that's great. It seems like obviously, some of the pressure from denials has stabilized a little bit. Could you walk us through a little why you think that's occurred? I guess, how much of it is coming directly out of some of the recontracting work that you're doing versus seeing stabilization outside of recontracting drivers? How to think about that going forward.

Alfred Lumsdaine
CFO, Ardent Health

Sure. I'm happy to hit that. I think it's potentially not a surprise that in a world where the payers are having a better year, better underwriter, better economics, that the underlying denial environment has stabilized. Clearly that has been our experience this year. At the same time, working with our revenue cycle partner, Ensemble, we've been very targeted at doing everything we can to control denials, to reduce denials, and both from a payer contracting is one element of that, but also applying the best technology, the best AI, to ensure that we're submitting clean claims. Then responding in a timely fashion so that those administrative things that happen that yield denials are reduced. We've seen good traction on that. Again, I attribute that to some of the dynamic where we have not seen any appreciable increase in denial activity this year.

Moderator

Okay, perfect. I think that might be all we have time for today. Thank you so much for being here with us. Really appreciate the insights. Thank you.

Dave Caspers
President and CEO, Ardent Health

Thank you.

David Styblo
SVP of Investor Relations, Ardent Health

Pleasure. Steve?