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Earnings Call: Q1 2020

Feb 4, 2020

Operator

Good morning, and welcome to Aramark's First Quarter 2020 Earnings Results Conference Call. My name is Paulette, and I will be your operator for today's call. At this time, I would like to inform you that this conference is being recorded for rebroadcast and that all participants are in a listen-only mode. We will open the conference call for questions at the conclusion of the company's remarks. Rich Kotzker, Associate Vice President, Capital Markets and Investor Relations, will kick off today's call. He is standing in for Felise Kissell, who is unfortunately under the weather. Mr. Kotzker , please proceed.

Rich Kotzker
Associate Vice President, Capital Markets and Investor Relations, Aramark

Thank you, and welcome to Aramark's First Quarter Fiscal 2020 Earnings Conference Call and Webcast. This morning, we will have the pleasure of hearing from our Chief Executive Officer, John Zillmer, as well as our new Chief Financial Officer, Tom Ondrof, who we are excited to have join us at Aramark just about four weeks ago . As a reminder, our notice regarding forward-looking statements is included in our press release this morning, which can be found on our website and in our earnings slide deck. During this call, we will be making comments that are forward-looking. Actual results may differ materially from those expressed or implied as a result of various risks, uncertainties, and important factors, including those discussed in the Risk Factors, MD&A, and other sections of our Annual Report on Form 10-K and our SEC filings. Additionally, we will be discussing certain non-GAAP financial measures.

Year-over-year GAAP results include the impact of the divestiture of the Healthcare Technologies business that was completed in the first quarter last year, as well as some miscellaneous unusual organizational items. A reconciliation of these items to U.S. GAAP can be found in this morning's press release, as well as on our website. With that, I will turn the call over to John.

John Zillmer
CEO, Aramark

Thank you, Rich. Good morning, everyone. I look forward to spending time with you today to share an update on the progress we are making across the company to accelerate revenue growth and unlock the economic potential of the business. As I continue my visits with our operations leaders and client partners, I am more encouraged than ever about Aramark's strong DNA. There is unified commitment to service, quality, and innovation that is amplified by the integrity and passion of our team. This powerful mindset gives me confidence in our dynamic path forward as we create long-term value for the company and all of our stakeholders. I'm very pleased to welcome Tom Ondrof to the team as Aramark's new CFO, appointed about four weeks ago.

We're extremely fortunate to have Tom, a highly seasoned food service and hospitality industry veteran, who is not only a financial expert, but also provides valued insights as a former chief development officer and chief strategy officer. In a few minutes, Tom will share his initial observations from our financial results, along with his immediate priorities. I also want to take this opportunity to thank Steve Bramlage for his numerous contributions during his five-year tenure with Aramark, as well as for providing his expertise and guidance during this transition period. We wish Steve all the best. Turning to our financial performance, the quarter materialized as expected and reflects the early actions of our reinvestment for accelerated revenue growth. While we saw organic revenue growth across all segments, there is ample opportunity ahead to drive additional performance.

As we work to elevate the company's hospitality culture and drive future growth across the business, we have realigned resources, specifically in the areas of client retention, sales, marketing, finance, and human resources, to more directly support our field organization who serve our clients and end customers. Marc Bruno, a respected leader at Aramark, who has been with the company 26 years after rising through the ranks, has been promoted to Chief Operating Officer, U.S. Food and Facilities. As someone who originally hired Marc at Aramark, I'm very confident in his ability to inspire the teams and drive performance. In addition, Gary Crompton has returned to Aramark as President of Business Dining. Gary is a highly respected industry leader with more than two decades of prior experience with Aramark, including serving as President of Business Dining and Healthcare Hospitality.

I firmly believe our leadership changes, that also include the recent appointment of John Orabona to oversee our global supply chain and group purchasing organization that I mentioned on our last earnings call, combined with the talented teams already in place, create favorable catalysts for the business. We've already begun to recognize John's influence on our supply chain strategies as we implement customized and differentiated experiences for clients that complement our productivity and product quality enhancement initiatives. John and the team are actively strengthening and leveraging our global spend pools, conducting comprehensive reviews of targeted product categories, refining our broad line distribution programs, and extending our procurement scale in innovative forms, including beyond our traditional touchpoints. We have commenced our reinvestment in the business, funded by the approximately $35 million in further synergy capture for the Avendra and AmeriPride integrations.

Our spend to date includes more field-based resources for new account sales efforts and client retention, as well as establishing resources to actively pursue adjacent business opportunities that further serve our clients' needs. We anticipate continuing to realign resources and add where necessary throughout the balance of the year, particularly in the second quarter, to ensure we are well positioned for the opportunities ahead. As part of our work to reignite the hospitality mindset across the portfolio, we are actively creating customized dining experiences that meet our clients and partners’ unique needs and preferences. I'm very pleased with the early progress of this approach that has already resulted in several new and expanded relationships. I continue to be confident in the company's long-term prospects. In just a few short months, we've mobilized several key components of our focused plan to unlock the economic potential of the business...

This approach is quickly being adopted by our sales and operations leaders. In fact, a few weeks ago, I participated in our global sales meeting. The excitement, the energy, and commitment of the team reinforced my enthusiasm in the extensive runway we have ahead. Before I turn it over to Tom, some of you have asked about our business in China, given what all of us are seeing unfold with the coronavirus. First and foremost, we are focused on ensuring the safety of our employees and the clients we serve. Broadly speaking, China represents about 2% of our total company business, primarily in healthcare, with minimal presence in the Wuhan region. We are monitoring the situation daily, and we're in constant contact with our Chinese leadership team.

Now I'd like to turn the call over to Tom to share his initial observations and insights on the company's financial performance.

Tom Ondrof
CFO, Aramark

Thank you, John. I'm excited to be here and to have the chance to work with you. While I've only been a part of the company for a short time, it's already clear that there's a great deal of talent within the organization and a genuine enthusiasm for the future prospects of Aramark. I look forward to partnering with John, the board, and our business teams to position resources to best serve our clients, drive disciplined revenue growth, and strengthen our capital structure for added financial flexibility. As John mentioned, the quarter materialized as expected and reflects the early actions of the commitment to reinvest in a hospitality culture and support future revenue growth. In the first quarter, organic revenue grew 1.6% compared to the prior year, with increases delivered across all segments.

U.S. Food and Facilities posted a 0.9% increase in organic revenue, backed by solid base business growth in healthcare and sports, leisure, and corrections, partially offset by negative net new business and education. Reiterating John's point earlier, there's ample opportunity in the year ahead to drive top-line performance. International grew organic revenue a healthy 3.2%, despite the unfavorable impact of the strategic exit of non-core custodial accounts in Europe late last year, with notable performance also delivered in South America, overcoming the social unrest in Chile. Uniforms showed balance in the quarter, growing organic revenue 2.5% from pricing and volume increases, while also remaining focused on increasing adjacency services for additional resort revenue opportunities. Turning to adjusted operating income. In the quarter, constant currency AOI was down 2% compared to the prior year.

AOI in U.S. Food and Facilities declined 11% on a constant currency basis, primarily as a result of actions to accelerate growth, negative net new business in education, and an increase in medical insurance claim costs , and lower income from possessory interest versus the prior year. International grew constant currency AOI 43% due to the strategic exit of the non-core facilities accounts in Europe, as well as the timing of incentive-based compensation in the prior year. Uniforms increased constant currency AOI by 2% over the prior year, as productivity improvements in operations and the anticipated synergies from AmeriPride were partially offset by investment in sales force, resources, and training. Adjusted EPS was $0.62 for the quarter, which was flat to the prior year on a constant currency basis.

This was a result of the slight decrease in constant currency AOI just outlined, offset by the benefit of reduced interest expense and a lower adjusted effective tax rate in the quarter. Free cash flow was negative $405 million, $88 million less than the same period last year , due primarily to the timing of incentive-based compensation payments compared to the prior year and special contributions to employee retirement plans this year. These outflows were partially offset by slightly lower quarter-over-quarter capital expenditures. A reminder that free cash flow is historically negative in the first quarter due to the seasonality of the business. The capital structure continues to strengthen and is an area of focus and opportunity. The company reduced its net debt position by $221 million in the quarter, and the leverage ratio remained at 4.2 times.

Finally, with an as-expected first quarter behind us, the outlook for fiscal 2020, on a 52-week basis provided during the last earnings call, remains unchanged. Earlier, John asked me to share my immediate priorities, so let me wrap up with that before turning the call back over to him. Over the next few quarters, I plan to focus my time on five areas . Number one , growth. I will support the investment to increase sales resources across all business lines and lean on my previous experience to help reinforce the sales process and implement rep-reporting tools to drive accountability and increase close rates on new business. Number two , ownership and retention.

I will work with John and the senior operating teams to continue to identify opportunities to invest in field-level hospitality, like culinary resources, training, merchandising, and marketing programs, and help implement the appropriate level of decentralization to promote account ownership by unit managers and improve client retention. Number three, procurement. I look forward to working with John Zillmer and his team to identify ways to grow the Avendra business, bringing value and savings to Aramark's clients and GPO customers. Number four, G&A. While I believe that a company can't cut its way to greatness, I will work with the businesses and corporate teams to ensure that G&A dollars are invested in the right places, and we are fit for purpose to best support our field associates and clients. Lastly, free cash flow.

I will look to review and implement a series of proven working capital initiatives to improve free cash flow, reduce debt, and provide financial flexibility to support client investment opportunities and enable us to execute a disciplined strategic M&A program. While appreciating the immediate work ahead of us, I'm confident that we will, over time, execute on John's vision to provide great service to our customers and position Aramark for sustained excellence. I look forward to spending time with many of you in the coming months. John?

John Zillmer
CEO, Aramark

Thanks, Tom. I appreciate your insightful perspective and know that your financial and industry expertise will be an invaluable asset to us as we propel the company forward. Before we have the opportunity to take your questions, I also want to thank our associates across the globe for their extraordinary focus on serving our customers and growing the business, and to offer my congratulations to the Kansas City Chiefs, our customer, for a great season and their Super Bowl win on Sunday. Now we'd like to go ahead and take your questions.

Operator

Thank you. We will now begin the question-and-answer session. If you have a question, please press star then 1 on your touchtone phone. If you wish to be removed from the queue, please press the pound sign or the hash key. If you are using a speakerphone, you may need to pick up the handset first before pressing the numbers. In order to accommodate participants in the question queue, please initially limit yourself to one question and one follow-up. Our first question comes from Ian Zaffino from Oppenheimer. Please go ahead.

Ian A. Zaffino
Managing Director, Oppenheimer

Hi, great. Thank you very much. Maybe you could also broaden, the conversation and talk about some of the experiences you've had, or maybe just talk about a few best practices you'll bring to Aramark? Thanks.

John Zillmer
CEO, Aramark

We're very sorry. Your question cut out several times. Would you mind repeating it?

Ian A. Zaffino
Managing Director, Oppenheimer

Yeah, sorry. The question was for Tom. Tom, maybe you could talk about, you know, the five areas you focused on. Maybe touch about your experiences that you had at your last shops, how you'll kind of weave those into what you're doing at Aramark and those five areas you'll focus on, or maybe just talk about some best practices that you've, you know, that you bring to the table. Thanks.

Tom Ondrof
CFO, Aramark

Yeah, Ian, I mean, it's A, it's great to be here. I sort of bring in 25 years of experience to the business. You know, John was very persuasive in laying out his vision to me. He's a tough guy to say no to, so it's great to be back in the industry, and Aramark has such a great history. I was excited by John's vision and the chance to help the company sort of reset its priorities and take a more balanced approach to running the business. I did lay out, you know, the priorities that I have, so, you know, to, you know, not want to really repeat those. I think I would mention that they were listed in a specific priority.

You know, growth is gonna come first. We are very focused on that. In John's initial few months, his priority has been there, and I think everything else sort of falls from there. You know, in terms of best practice, you know, you've got to be able to grow the business. You've got to create momentum from the top of the P&L and then have it work its way down. That will certainly be the priority. I think some really good things have been put in place here, some good disciplines, a good cost culture, but I think, again, it's just trying to bring the balance back to the forward-looking execution of the business.

Ian A. Zaffino
Managing Director, Oppenheimer

Okay, thanks. You know, just a question for John. Just more broadly speaking, how do you feel about your brand lineup? you know, what you have, you know, what you may need to add, or maybe some areas that you might need to add in, or are you kind of happy with what you have or what Aramark has? Thanks.

John Zillmer
CEO, Aramark

Yeah, thank you. Well, first of all, I'm very confident in our ability to compete as one Aramark. That, as an organization, we have the capability, the technology, and the branded concepts that our customers want, and where we don't have a brand that serves particular needs , we'll develop and implement one appropriately for each individual customer. I've always had a firm belief that customized solutions are the solution set that best serves the needs of our clients and our customers. I don't have an out-of-the-box solution for any customer in any part of this industry. I think, you know, we have in higher education, we have Harvest Table, we have Simple Servings and B&I, we have LifeWorks.

We have a number of premium brands we can bring to bear when that serves the client's interests, and we can also compete as one Aramark against the vast majority of our customers and clients. I also believe that we'll do whatever is necessary to compete aggressively to win new business. We'll partner with branded concepts, we'll partner with restaurant operators, we'll partner with prospective organizations in a way that serves our clients' best interests.

Operator

Our next question comes from Kevin McVeigh, from Credit Suisse. Please go ahead.

Kevin McVeigh
Managing Director, Credit Suisse

Great. Thank you. Hey, John or Tom, the growth initiative is super helpful. Can you give us a sense, it may be hard, but just, you know, the kind of current trajectory is 2%-4% type organic, longer term. You know, what can that ultimately become, and how much of it is kind of close rate versus retention? You know, because it looks like two, kind of the first two are revenue, the second two are kind of cost. Just any thoughts on that organic growth longer term and what that can mean from a margin perspective?

Tom Ondrof
CFO, Aramark

You know, I think the higher is the initial answer right now.

Kevin McVeigh
Managing Director, Credit Suisse

Right. Yeah, no, I get it.

Tom Ondrof
CFO, Aramark

Yeah. It's hard to say, you know, really, at the moment. I think the overall industry, I'm sure I know you've looked through sort of the market structure, the global opportunity across, you know, all the business lines, the geographies, that Aramark serves. There's a ton of opportunity. The growth rate should be higher. You know, what can it be? You know, mid-single digits, I think is probably the goal over the course of time. I think that's quite doable, but, you know, there's work to be done to do it. You know, right now, I talked about fit for purpose.

I don't think we're there yet, and it will take time, and you can't put salespeople in today and expect them to make an impact tomorrow. We will get there. In terms of the margin impact, you know, we'll be disciplined about that growth. Again, the market opportunities are great enough that there's enough available market out there that we don't have to, as has been said many times over the years in this industry, just, you know, beat each other up. We'll be disciplined and thoughtful with our growth, I think the margin will progress. I think that should be the goal.

If we can't strike a balanced approach to growing the top and the bottom line, then, you know, we're not really doing our job.

John Zillmer
CEO, Aramark

I would add just two comments , Kevin. I think, you know, as we've said, historically, you know, we want to improve our retention rate, we want to grow the base business as well as sell new accounts. All three elements are important for that growth trajectory. We have opportunities to improve the level of service to our customers to help grow the base business. We have increased stomach share in the accounts that we already serve. We increase participation rates and increase check averages, which leads to further growth. We believe that we are kind of at the historic level of retention inside the company right now. You know, we think we have opportunity to improve it.

Adding 100 basis points to retention would dramatically alter the trajectory of the business going forward, and we think we have that opportunity. As Tom said, improved closure rates in the business as we sell new accounts. We've got three levers. We're working against all three of them.

Kevin McVeigh
Managing Director, Credit Suisse

Yeah. Awesome. Okay, I'll hop back in. Thank you so much.

John Zillmer
CEO, Aramark

Thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from Andrew Steinerman from JPMorgan . Please go ahead.

Andrew Steinerman
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, JPMorgan

Hi, it's Andrew. I want to know if organic revenue growth should progress throughout the year, particularly thinking about second quarter. As I look at slide 7, it doesn't have that little graph that was in the last slide deck that sort of had a line up and to the right to give you a sense of quarterly cadence.

Tom Ondrof
CFO, Aramark

You know, I hate to, Andrew, get into sort of quarter by quarter detail. You know, we, I think, talked historically about it progressing throughout the year. I think we still feel confident about that. If, if, you know, start to finish, so to speak. You know, we fully expect to have, you know, good, solid momentum going into fiscal 2021. Within, you know, the second, third, fourth quarters, we see a progression.

John Zillmer
CEO, Aramark

Yeah.

Andrew Steinerman
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, JPMorgan

Right. So. Go ahead, John. Sorry.

John Zillmer
CEO, Aramark

Sorry. I was just gonna add, you know, the seasonality kind of occurring in the business. You know, you have the ramp-up of the national parks and the sports and entertainment business that occurs in the, you know, third and fourth quarter, and second and third quarter, especially on the sports side. You know, it's hard to really kind of delineate the quarter-over-quarter growth. As you know, the selling season in higher education tends to be in the spring, you know, it's too early to make a call on what the sales hit rate will be and what the closure rate will be.

You know, working very aggressively to move those numbers, and we'll have better visibility here in probably the next quarter.

Andrew Steinerman
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, JPMorgan

The drag from the custodial facilities contracts in Europe is now fully in the numbers as of first quarter, right?

John Zillmer
CEO, Aramark

Yes, that's correct.

Andrew Steinerman
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, JPMorgan

Okay, thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from Toni Kaplan from Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.

Toni Kaplan
Executive Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Thank you. This is for Tom. Just to follow up on, I think, the first question that was asked, but just given your prior experience at one of Aramark's main food services competitors, just curious on any initial thoughts on noticeable differences between the two organizations, and I guess what you think will help Aramark accelerate growth closer to what that competitor's been doing historically?

Tom Ondrof
CFO, Aramark

Yeah, well, the company is a great business. Aramark is a great business. That's probably as close as I'll get to a comparison.

Toni Kaplan
Executive Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Mm-hmm.

Tom Ondrof
CFO, Aramark

What I know is there's no structural difference between the companies. They're similar but different. You know, I think roughly 25% of Compass's business is in lines of service or geographies that Aramark's not in, and the same works sort of the other way. The comparisons are, you know, a little different. But I understand the need or people's desire for benchmarks. But our goal and our focus is really gonna be on being the best we can be, and I know that sounds like a cliche, but we wanna grow the top line at an accelerated rate. We wanna progress the margin, and we wanna deliver free cash flow increases. You know, if we do that, we're gonna deliver for our shareholders, regardless of what any of our competition does. That's really our focus.

You know, we'll look up one day and sort of see where we are in a comparison way, but that's not what we're after. We're after serving our clients and serving our shareholders, and doing that with all the experiences that John and I have, and a really, really solid management team has that's in place and that John's putting in place.

Toni Kaplan
Executive Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, Morgan Stanley

That's helpful. As my follow-up, do you anticipate any changes to the company's capital allocation policy? You know, is M&A more or less of a focus? How are you thinking about the current buyback authorization, and just any thoughts around capital allocation would be helpful.

Tom Ondrof
CFO, Aramark

Sure. A bit early to sort of definitively opine on it, but, you know, I do know in a general sense that, you know, our first priority with free cash flow is gonna be to reinvest in the business and take, you know, the opportunities we can to support growth. You know, M&A, you know, on a disciplined and strategic sort of tuck-in basis would be the second. Reducing debt, of course. Once those three things are sort of evaluated, then we'd look at, you know, other options for the cash. You know, I'll get a little deeper into that as I go and certainly, you know, give a clearer view on the set priorities as we get into the year.

Toni Kaplan
Executive Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from Gary Bisbee from Bank of America. Please go ahead.

Jay Hanna
Research Analyst, Bank of America Securities

Hey, guys, this is actually Jay, in on for Gary today.

Tom Ondrof
CFO, Aramark

Hey, Jay.

Jay Hanna
Research Analyst, Bank of America Securities

I was just wondering quickly on the, on the GPO, what's the longer-term roadmap there? Is that gonna be an M&A focus, or I guess internal growth? What's the longer-term plan?

John Zillmer
CEO, Aramark

This is John. you know, I think you hit both elements. we're gonna work very hard to grow the purchase spend, you know, by selling those services to third parties and to continue to expand our relationship with our partners in that business. There is definitely an organic opportunity there. We'll also look to bolt-on acquisitions in the GPO space that will increase our spend pool. you know, there are various opportunities, you know, to do that. you know, we'll primarily be focused on serving both the needs of our existing business as well, and really getting the synergies out of that combination of our purchase spend as core Aramark and the GPO spend as well.

We still have plenty of earnings improvement opportunity on both sides.

Jay Hanna
Research Analyst, Bank of America Securities

Okay, great. For that $30 million–$40 million incremental spend this year, did I hear you say that was primarily going to occur in Q2? Or like, what's the cadence for the remainder of the year?

John Zillmer
CEO, Aramark

Yeah, we have, basically, we've already begun investing. We've begun hiring salespeople throughout the businesses, targeted on those businesses that we believe have the best growth characteristics and our best opportunities. Uniform Services, you know, has made significant hires over the course of the year already and will continue to bring on additional people, primarily focused on adjacent, on adjacent opportunities, first aid, restroom services, and the like. Bringing those sales managers on first, you know, because those represent significant margin opportunities, and we have a great base of business to sell against in our existing customers and potential new customers. We've already begun spending those resources.

Resources in the various growth organizations, and we'll continue to ramp up through the balance of the year. It's our belief that we'll spend that entire amount at some point during the year, but it really depends on the quality of the people that we're able to recruit, develop, and hire. And the cadence will really be determined by that, by the availability of quality candidates.

Tom Ondrof
CFO, Aramark

I might just add on the, on the sales side and sort of the growth expectation that, you know, the different lines of business all have different sales cycles. So we've tried to, or I know John has tried to add across those different sales cycles. So for instance, uniforms, refreshment services, you know, sort of B&I, have shorter sales cycles, hello to contract, so to speak. So the impact could be felt a little sooner from those hires. Healthcare, education, certainly parks, sports, entertainment, they have long, multi-year,

John Zillmer
CEO, Aramark

... sales cycles, but if you don't start doing the work, building the relationships today, you know, you'll never grow the business. There's some investments that will pay off, more in the near term, others that will be multiyear payoffs.

Jay Hanna
Research Analyst, Bank of America Securities

That makes sense. Thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from Manav Patnaik from Barclays. Please go ahead.

Gregory Parris
Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, Barclays

Hi, this is actually Greg calling on for Manav. I just wanted to dig in on the uniform business a bit more. I think last quarter, it may have been a little early to talk about it, and maybe some of the commentary already about investments give some indication on how you're thinking about that business, but just hoping to get some color on how you're thinking about Aramark's competitive positioning there and opportunity going forward.

John Zillmer
CEO, Aramark

Sure. This is John. You know, first of all, I will tell you that I've spent a significant amount of time inside the uniform business over the course of the last four months, been extraordinarily impressed by our operating team and the strategies they've laid out for the organization, the opportunities that they have in front of them in terms of improving the growth rate and improving margin. As I said in our last call, my primary focus is gonna be on looking at ways to improve the operating results in that business, and looking at the strategic investment opportunities that we have inside of Uniform Services.

The board, you know, has not taken up any discussion with respect to strategic alternatives, and I don't anticipate doing that in the near term. I'm really focused on improving the core business. It operates at a very good margin, and we've got a great team running against it. They have worked very hard to realize the synergies of AmeriPride, and are undergoing significant strategic implementations with respect to the route accounting system, which will have dramatic impacts with respect to, I think, our ability to operate and report on the business. We're really focused on those efforts right now.

I will tell you, the time that I've spent with the Burbank team was extraordinary, and really liked the business and think that they're really focused on the right things.

Gregory Parris
Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, Barclays

Very helpful. Then maybe on the food services side, just curious also to get your perspective on the facilities side, because that's, I guess, a piece that has kind of differing views among the big catering players on how active to be in that space. Just hoping to get your view on how facilities fits with the core food services offering. Thanks.

John Zillmer
CEO, Aramark

Yep, you bet. You know, first of all, we have two different facilities businesses. On the healthcare side, the facilities business is integrated along with our food service operations because it's truly an integrated system sale, that business is aligned in that organization and very focused on serving the total needs of the healthcare system and the healthcare customer. In the other businesses, facilities has stood up as a standalone business, providing services to a wide range of customers, both in higher education and Business Dining. We like the business, operates at good margins. You know, we've got a very strong team working against that business. We see it as an opportunity to continue to grow.

We've got some very strong technical capabilities and a very strong portfolio of existing customers. We also have, significant opportunity. It is a very large segment, and we have a very specific business unit focused on growing that segment. We like it, and we're not gonna shy away from it, and we have people really focused on doing the right things in that, in that business.

Operator

Our next question comes from Seth Weber, from RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Seth Weber
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Hey, good morning. Maybe a similar question, but, you know, on the educational business, can you just talk about, you know, the headwinds that you're seeing there and, you know, what the plan is to kind of turn that business more positive? When, you know, I know it's a kind of a long cycle business, but how are you thinking about the turn that could happen in education? Thanks.

John Zillmer
CEO, Aramark

Yeah, that's absolutely true. It is a long cycle selling business, and we are very focused on that selling season right now, as you would guess. You know, we think that, first of all, we're number one in that business. We have a very strong position, and we think we have certainly a right to win. I think that business was affected by the decisions over the last few years to cut resources and to centralize resources. We have appropriately moved resources back into the business to be focused on serving those unique customers and developing, you know, a portfolio of solutions that really serves the higher education marketplace more effectively.

I think the downstreaming of those resources, the repositioning of them, if you will, into higher education, will help to accelerate that change. We've got a very aggressive team of sales leaders in that marketplace and good operating leadership. There are a couple of fundamental issues inside of higher education that I think all companies will struggle with over a period of time, like lower enrollments in certain universities. That's a headwind that we'll need to work through. We have a number of customized programs developed to improve the meal plan take up by freshmen and the readoption of meal plans by upperclassmen, focused on new marketing initiatives to go ahead and have an impact on that as well. We're...

It's not a single solution kind of, change is approaching the marketplace with multiple solutions. I think that, you know, that will have a very significant impact in the very near term, on that business unit.

Seth Weber
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Okay, you think we could see a positive turn, by the end of fiscal 2020?

John Zillmer
CEO, Aramark

Absolutely. I think we can absolutely see a positive turn in our new account acquisition rate and our retention rates. You know, whether that will translate immediately to top line sales growth in this fiscal year is an open question. Remember, when you sell a new account, you're opening it in the fall, you'll have one period of new business implemented in this fiscal year. You'll see a turn in the success, but not necessarily an improvement in the numbers until we get into next year.

Seth Weber
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Okay. If I could just get a clarification, John, in your prepared remarks, I think you used the term, you know, going after business aggressively, doing whatever it takes kind of thing. I mean, I just want to understand, you know, where pricing kind of comes in, in your, you know, in that framework. I understand there are a lot of initiatives to help margin, but is pricing going to be, you know, a lever that you use to go after new business? Thanks.

John Zillmer
CEO, Aramark

Well, I'll answer it this way. We're gonna compete on a very disciplined basis. We are not gonna use price as a lever to sell new accounts. We're gonna provide services to our customers that are designed to fit their needs and expectations. We will do it on a basis that is accretive to margins and to grow the business appropriately and on a balanced basis. We are not, we are not gonna lower our financial expectations to sell new accounts.

Seth Weber
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Perfect. Okay, thank you very much.

Operator

Our next question comes from Hamzah Mazari from Jefferies. Please go ahead.

Hamzah Mazari
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, Jefferies

Yeah, good morning. Thank you. My first question is just around how are you thinking about timeframe for the turnaround on organic growth? You know, is it 5 years? Is it 3 years? As part of that, you know, I know you talked a lot about net new business, retention, adding salespeople, but are you comfortable that there's nothing structural in your product or any heavy lifting that you have to undo from sort of prior management teams' investments and, you know, standardization, technology, and et cetera?

John Zillmer
CEO, Aramark

I, you know, I'll both answer that, but Tom, you go ahead.

Tom Ondrof
CFO, Aramark

I again, as I mentioned before, I don't, I don't think there's anything structural. You know, it's sort of an execution. It's an approach to selling new business. It's a resource to selling new business, making it a priority, making retention a priority. In terms of the client offer, just the hospitality culture, the focus on serving and satisfying the customer and client, that's all there. I don't believe it's gonna take, you know, additional CapEx in any category, either for clients or within the business, to grow.

This is just about, you know, a prioritization and a reinvestment in feet on the street, and then letting, as I mentioned before, those businesses grow. They'll all be at a different pace based on the life cycle or the sales cycle. I have probably answered your question. It's gonna be less than 5 years, but more than 1 quarter.

John Zillmer
CEO, Aramark

Yeah, I would. Very well put. It's gonna be less than 5 years and more than 1 quarter. I think, you know, we definitely have a strong pathway and trajectory towards, you know, significantly improving the organic growth rate in a, what I would characterize, the medium term. The, you know, we have expectations to improve the growth rate this year, and then to continue to improve it next year. As we've made these strategic investments in new selling resources, we expect, you know, that many of them will be productive this year in some of the businesses, and that the longer cycle sales will begin to really have an impact in 2021, particularly in higher education. I don't see this as a multi-year effort. I also don't see it as a multi-year investment requirement.

We believe that, you know, we have the resources that we need to operate the business going forward, we've made this strategic investment this year, and we can add these resources and really have an impact on the business across all three of those growth paradigms, if you will, but base business growth, retention, and new account sales. We see this as a strategy that will accelerate, you know, going into the end of this year and will continue going into next year as well.

Hamzah Mazari
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, Jefferies

That's very helpful. My follow-up question on uniform, you know, you talked about, you know, sort of no strategic options at this stage. At the same time, you talked about, you know, investing in adjacencies in that business and turning it around. First of all, you know, maybe talk about, is there any synergy in uniform in the food service business? I guess you're the only company that owns a uniform asset. Then two, is the uniform business a turnaround, too? Are you executing on two separate turnarounds, or is the uniform business just, you know, investing in first aid a little bit?

John Zillmer
CEO, Aramark

I would not characterize the uniform business as a turnaround business. I would say it's a business that performs, you know, very well in the marketplace it operates in, that there are some differences in the structure of the business between us and our competitors, that we're working to, that we're working to close, both through technology implementations and as, and by, scaling up the organization through the AmeriPride acquisition. You know, the route accounting system is one area where that acquisition, we believe, will pay very significant dividends. I see it as a business that has significant improvement potential, not as a turnaround business. They operate very effectively, given the assets that they have and given the resources that they have.

The strategic investments in uniforms is really about creating additional runway, you know, adding the adjacency services like first aid. You know, we've already built that business very significantly in a very short period of time. It comes at very good margins, is very accretive, the investment in those sales managers, we think, will drive very significant returns in that business. Again, I don't see it as a turnaround. I see it as significant improvement potential.

Tom Ondrof
CFO, Aramark

I think I'd add that, you know, while it doesn't have the sort of traditional synergy definition or overlap with the other side of the business, it's a very familiar business to me. I've not been exposed to it in my career, and walking in it feels very familiar. It's a B2B business. It operates very similarly to the food and service side from a contract standpoint, from a business relationship standpoint, retention. You know, all those things are very familiar. I think for both John and I, it's not a very difficult business to manage. It's got an excellent operating and management team. As John said, it's got good financial metrics. You know, I'm excited to get into it a bit more.

Operator

Our next question comes from Andrew Wittmann from Baird. Please go ahead.

Andrew Wittmann
Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst, Baird

Great. Thank you for taking my questions. I'm gonna keep going on uniforms a little bit here. Some of the competitors have cited some concerns about some softness in their end markets, that have held them back from being a little bit more optimistic on their own guidance. I was wondering if you guys have seen any pockets of weakness, either by end market or geographically, that would be notable?

John Zillmer
CEO, Aramark

you know, I would tell you, I don't see that as I look at the business. you know, I think, you know, in general, they're experiencing good growth across all the geographies. you know, I don't see any particular segment weakness. you know, we do serve, you know, we have significant customers in the automotive sector. We have significant customers across such a wide variety of customers and clients. you know, I think we're somewhat insulated from any specific industry's downturn, if you will, or softness. I would tell you from both a geographic perspective, and a customer perspective, you know, we're confident in the trajectory for that business this year.

Andrew Wittmann
Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst, Baird

Great. Just a follow-up question here. I just want to try to get a sense of your goals for the margin profile. I mean, a few years ago, a company called G&K Services, was generating operating margins in the 12% range before they got taken out by Cintas. That was on less than $1 billion of revenue. You guys are obviously more than twice the size of that. Is the move to, you know, 12 or beyond, is that the right way to think about what your business is capable of? How can you put the margin potential in context for us as you effectuate your plan?

John Zillmer
CEO, Aramark

Yeah, I think it's certainly we aspire to that level of margin attainment. I think that over a period of time, it is attainable, particularly as we scale up the adjacencies. You know, the real difference between us and Cintas historically has been, you know, the fact that we're unionized and they're not. You know, the fact that they've got a business that was built by building plants to specification as opposed to by acquisition, which is the way we built the company. You know, we have a different footprint, different plant structure that gives us a slightly lower margin profile.

Again, the build-out of the services capabilities, the adding of the adjacency services, the improvement of the route accounting system, gives us significant headroom in terms of margin improvement potential, that's what we're focused on. As I mentioned on our last call, I've run multiple distribution businesses. I've spent significant time inside the uniform company, I'm very confident in our ability to have a significant impact on the margin potential in that business.

Andrew Wittmann
Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst, Baird

Great. Thanks.

Operator

Our next question comes from Shlomo Rosenbaum from Stifel. Please go ahead.

Hamzah Mazari
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, Jefferies

Hi, good morning. Thank you for taking my questions.

Shlomo Rosenbaum
Managing Director, Stifel

Hey, John, I just wanted to ask you know, it is a long cycle business, and you noted a number of things that are changes that are going on right now that should impact the business more positively as time goes on. The ones I am noticing are hiring and then kind of the routing system that you're talking about in uniforms. Are there other ones that you wanna highlight that are already going on, but people can't really. You don't see the impact immediately, but it's one of those things that, as you put it into motion, the impact and numbers become more apparent over time?

John Zillmer
CEO, Aramark

I think that's a great question, and I think really the actions that we've taken to date have all been focused on creating that long-term growth potential opportunity. Probably the most significant action we've taken to date has been to re-resource the businesses by taking, you know, the organizations that had been centralized into a center of excellence and focus on multiple businesses and downstreaming them back into the markets that they serve . We've taken resources out of the center, given them to Business Dining, given them to Healthcare, given them to higher education.

We've put people back into the businesses, that they know and love, so they can focus on that, in those individual markets and have a really deep, intimate understanding and deep impact on those businesses. I think that that will have a significant result over a period of time, as those leaders and those sales leaders have the opportunity to reengage with customers in a much more intimate way. Very much behind the scenes.

You know, I think also the strengthening of the leadership group, you know, the reintroduction of Gary Crompton into Business Dining, Marc's promotion, those are all, I think, terrific elements of contributing to the growth culture in the company and the focus on new account sales and customer relationships, and that will have a significant impact over a longer period of time.

Shlomo Rosenbaum
Managing Director, Stifel

Great. On Compass's call, they talked a little bit about weakness in B&I sector in Europe. Is that something that you guys are noticing as well, or is there anything on a macro perspective besides, obviously, stuff going on in China, that you wanna call out on this call that people should be aware of?

John Zillmer
CEO, Aramark

I don't, we're not seeing that. Our international results are actually very strong. We don't break it down, obviously, by country and by segment, but we're not seeing that softness in the European results.

Shlomo Rosenbaum
Managing Director, Stifel

Okay, great. Thank you so much.

John Zillmer
CEO, Aramark

Thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from Stephen Grambling from Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.

Stephen Grambling
Managing Director and Lead Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Good morning. Just have a couple quick follow-ups. You talked to the synergy capture benefits in the quarter. Can you just elaborate on the magnitude of the capture, maybe what's left as you think about the two acquisitions, AmeriPride and Avendra, and then perhaps talk to integration costs that may be expected going forward?

John Zillmer
CEO, Aramark

Certainly. You know, first of all, we projected the synergies for the total year to be approximately $35 million, between the two integration, between the two acquisitions. You know, we see that materializing as expected. Don't see any real gaps in that realization on either organization, seeing significant progress in Avendra and AmeriPride.

You know, we did not calculate as part of the AmeriPride acquisition, the value or the benefit associated with the implementation of the route accounting system across the enterprise. We're beginning to really see that that can be, you know, a very significant, tangible, synergy benefit, but haven't really quantified it yet as we've adopted it in a couple of our former Aramark facilities and are piloting and testing it and really satisfied and happy with the results that we're seeing. As we get further along in those tests, we'll be able to quantify that theoretical benefit by that implementation. We're already seeing very positive impacts from it.

Stephen Grambling
Managing Director and Lead Analyst, Goldman Sachs

That's great. Then, maybe another follow-up. you know, on the cash flow side, CapEx this quarter looked a bit lower than typical and lower than the prior year period. Can you just talk to the trajectory of your CapEx spend? It sounds like most of the investments that you're making are gonna be much more, you know, PNL-focused and investing in sales folks versus client contracts, but we've seen some of the peers start to inch that up. If you have any thoughts around, you know, client contract investments and how you think about evaluating those versus other opportunities. Thanks.

John Zillmer
CEO, Aramark

Sure. You know, the two different categories of capital, if you will, to secure contracts, gain contracts, you know, we don't particularly differentiate. You know, it's cash out, it's cash to win new business. We look for, you know, acceptable returns for that investment, and, you know, we'll continue to. In any given quarter, CapEx can, you know, be a bit lumpy, based on the opportunities. You know, hopefully we, you know, are looking at a great fourth quarter, and an install of education business, and that would, you know, be a, you know, a requirement of CapEx, more than likely.

In terms of progression, you know, I think it's best to look at sort of the full year-on-year, and at the moment, you know, we're looking at the pipeline that we've got. You know, we're again, optimistic that the opportunities are there and the CapEx will trend towards historical norms and then into next year as well.

Stephen Grambling
Managing Director and Lead Analyst, Goldman Sachs

That's helpful. Thanks so much. Best of luck this year.

John Zillmer
CEO, Aramark

Thank you.

Operator

I will now turn the call back over to Mr. Zillmer for closing remarks.

John Zillmer
CEO, Aramark

Terrific. Again, thanks, everybody, for joining us this morning. We look forward to conversations, you know, at the end of next quarter. We're very pleased with the state of the organization, and I'm very pleased to have Tom sitting by my side here as we move forward, and looking forward to just a great result through the balance of the year. So thank you very much.

Operator

Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. This concludes today's conference. Thank you for participating, and you may now disconnect.

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