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Earnings Call: Q4 2022

Nov 30, 2022

Operator

Good day, and welcome to the Amtech Systems Fiscal Quarter and Fiscal Year 2022 Earnings Conference Call. Please note that this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the call over to Erica Mannion of Sapphire Investor Relations.

Erica Mannion
Partner and Founder, Sapphire Investor Relations

Good afternoon, and thank you for joining us for Amtech Systems Fiscal Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2022 Conference Call. With me on the call today are Michael Whang, Chief Executive Officer, Lisa Gibbs, Chief Financial Officer, and Paul Lancaster, Vice President of Sales and Customer Service. After close of market today, Amtech released its financial results for the fiscal fourth quarter and full year of 2022. The earnings release is posted on the company's website at www.amtechsystems.com in the Investors section. Before we begin, I'd like to remind everyone that the safe harbor disclaimer in our public filings covers this call and our webcast.

Some of the comments to be made during today's call will contain forward-looking statements and assumptions that are subject to risks and uncertainties, including, but not limited to, those contained in our SEC filings, all of which are posted within the Investors section of our corporate website. The company assumes no obligation to update any such forward-looking statements. You are cautioned not to place undue reliance on forward-looking statements which speak only as of today. These statements are not a guarantee of future performance, and actual results may differ materially from current expectations.

Among the important factors which could cause actual results to differ materially from those in the forward-looking statements are changes in technologies used by customers and competitors, change in volatility and the demand for products, the effect of changing worldwide political and economic conditions, including trade sanctions, the effect of overall market conditions, including the equity and credit markets and market acceptance risks, ongoing logistics, supply chain and labor challenges, capital allocation plans, and the worldwide COVID-19 pandemic. Other risk factors are detailed in the company's SEC filings, including its Form 10-K and Forms 10-Q. I will now turn the call over to Michael Whang, Chief Executive Officer.

Michael Whang
CEO, Amtech Systems

Thank you, Erica, everyone for joining us today. Fiscal year 2022 was a strong year for Amtech, with over $114 million in bookings, $106 million in revenue, and $51 million in backlog exiting the year. To place this in perspective, despite challenges during the year, including the Shanghai lockdown in fiscal Q3, revenue for the year grew 25%, with backlog continuing to grow. Driving our backlog growth is a strengthening and diversification of EV-related demand across multiple product lines, primarily for our U.S. operations. Q4 revenue was $32 million, up 33% year-over-year, as we were able to service much of the advanced packaging and SMT demand built up during the Shanghai lockdown in Q3. Overall, we remain excited about the long-term opportunities across all of our businesses.

Within the semi business unit, following nearly nine straight quarters of strong demand for our advanced packaging products, we have begun to see softening in new orders as customers digest existing capacity and evaluate capital spending projects in light of the changing market conditions. In addition, in high-volume SMT applications, we are seeing a shift in global strategy as our customers look to mitigate multifaceted risks. While this is causing delays and disruptions to overflow for now, we feel this redistribution of the customer base will present a great opportunity in the near future. Within the semi business unit, we are seeing meaningful increases in demand for our high-temperature belt furnaces, driven by multiple high-volume applications serving the EV market. These applications include thermal processing of EV sensors, battery cooling assemblies, and power module substrates, among others.

In the materials and substrate business unit, we continue to see strong demand for our consumable products, driven by the ramp in silicon carbide wafer capacity. As we have said in the past, this will be a multi-year capacity expansion cycle as individual customers ramp wafer capacity, then digest, then ramp again. As evidence of this, in the December quarter, we are seeing a stabilization of consumable demand while existing wafer capacity is fully utilized, and would expect to see a subsequent step-up in demand as the next phase of wafer capacity expansions are brought online. In summary, while we are dealing with material disruption in customer demand, we are confident that our strategy to align our divisions to high-growth megatrend markets such as EV is taking hold.

In fiscal year 2022, we saw a four-fold increase in bookings related to EV applications, with participation expanded to multiple product lines across all of our business units. We believe this strategic alignment to megatrend growth at multiple intersection points creates a strong and more durable foundation for value creation in the coming years. As we look ahead, we are confident we are well-positioned in the growth markets with exposure to several secular tailwinds to create a significant opportunity to drive increased profitability and shareholder value as demand accelerates and we realize the operating leverage built into our current business model. I will now turn over the call to Paul Lancaster.

Paul Lancaster
VP of Sales and Customer Service, Amtech Systems

Thank you, Michael. Expanding further on the demand environment with our advanced packaging and SMT products, we continue to see healthy mid to long-term interest. We have seen near-term softening given both the cyclical nature of the industry and macro semiconductor headwinds. Offsetting this, as Michael mentioned, we are seeing strong growth in products with exposure to electric vehicle applications. For example, last quarter, we received an initial $8 million order for our high-temp belt furnaces, growing backlog for these products to approximately 50% of the company total. Within the silicon carbide market, which at this stage is primarily focused on EV, we continue to see increases in consumable demand as our customers execute on their capacity expansion plans. As evidence of this, in the fourth fiscal quarter, we saw a 120% year-over-year revenue growth for these products.

It is important to remember, though, that going forward, this will be a multiyear expansion effort, and the pace of capacity additions is often longer than that of traditional silicon. Taken together, the demand for these products, namely high-temp belt furnaces and silicon carbide consumables, remains very robust. At this stage, limiting our ability to readily service this demand is a combination of supply chain constraints and internal capacity. As these products are predominantly manufactured in the U.S., we are executing to further expand our manufacturing capacity and strengthen our supply chain to reduce lead times and risk. While we are still early in the process, we are urgently moving forward to ensure we have the appropriate scale, capability, and resiliency to more quickly convert backlog to revenue and capture the opportunity ahead. I'll now turn the call over to Lisa.

Lisa Gibbs
CFO, Amtech Systems

Thank you, Paul. Net Revenues increased 62% sequentially and 33% from the fourth quarter of fiscal 2021, with the sequential increase primarily attributable to increased shipments of our advanced packaging equipment and increases in polishing equipment and consumables. As a reminder, during the third quarter of fiscal 2022, our Shanghai facility was closed for approximately two months due to the government-mandated closure relating to its COVID policies. The increase in Net Revenues from the fourth quarter of fiscal 2021 was primarily a result of increased shipments across all of our product lines. Margin increased sequentially and from the fourth quarter of fiscal 2021 due primarily to increased utilization at all of our locations, partially offset by increasing material costs, primarily in our semiconductor segment.

Selling, general, and administrative expenses increased $0.1 million on a sequential basis and $0.7 million compared to the prior year period. The increase from the fourth quarter of fiscal 2021 primarily relates to the timing of external and internal audit fees. Research, development, and engineering decreased $0.3 million sequentially and was relatively flat compared to the same prior year period. Operating income was $3.9 million compared to operating income of $9.6 million in the third quarter of fiscal 2022 and operating income of $1.3 million in the same prior year period. Income tax provision was $0.6 million for the three months ended September 30, 2022, compared to a provision of $20,000 in the prior quarter and $0.7 million in the same prior year period.

Net Income for the fourth quarter of fiscal 2022 was $4.2 million or $0.30 per share. This compares to Net Income of $10.2 million, or $0.73 per share for the preceding quarter, and Net Income of $0.7 million, or $0.05 per share for the fourth quarter of fiscal 2021. Unrestricted cash and cash equivalents at September 30, 2022 were $46.9 million compared to $47.7 million in June 30, 2022. Approximately 84% of our cash balance is held in the United States.

As we conclude our 2022 fiscal year, we are pleased with our annual results of $106 million in revenue, an increase of 25% from fiscal 2021, and Net Income of $17.4 million, or $1.22 per diluted share. The $12.5 million gain from the sale of our building in Massachusetts was an added benefit to our fiscal year 2022 results and resulted in a Net Cash Inflow of approximately $14.9 million. Looking ahead into our fiscal 2023, we will continue to focus on our growth strategy, which includes product development to drive our organic growth and pursuing strategic M&A opportunities.

We are also evaluating capacity and labor investments to strengthen our capabilities and to ensure our readiness for the growth we see ahead in EV-related products and services across all of our business units, to help us accelerate the servicing of our backlog. Another key consideration for our capacity investments is mitigating business continuity risk. Turning to our outlook. As Paul discussed, supply chain constraints and disruptions in our U.S. business are impacting our near-term results, as is the softness in SMT and advanced packaging. For the quarter ending December 31, 2022, our fiscal first quarter, revenues are expected to be in the range of $21 million-$23 million, with operating margin negative. The company's outlook reflects the ongoing logistical impacts and the related delays for goods shipped to and from China, as well as the supply chain delays we are experiencing in our U.S. operations.

Actual results may differ materially in the weeks and months ahead. Additionally, the semiconductor equipment industries can be cyclical and inherently impacted by changes in market demand. Our operating results can be significantly impacted positively or negatively by the timing of orders, system shipments, and the financial results of semiconductor manufacturers. A portion of Amtech's results is denominated in RMBs, a Chinese currency. The outlook provided is based on an assumed exchange rate between the United States dollar and the RMB. Changes in the value of the RMB in relation to the United States dollar could cause actual results to differ from expectations. Now, I will turn the call over to the operator for questions. Operator?

Operator

Thank you. At this time, we will be conducting a question-and-answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star two if you would like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. one moment, please, while we poll for questions. Our first question comes from the line of Craig Irwin with ROTH Capital. Please proceed with your question.

Craig Irwin
Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst, Roth Capital

Good evening, and thanks for taking my questions. The first question I wanted to ask is about the $8 million order in the quarter. I believe you said it was for a belt furnace. Is this for an individual unit or multiple units? Can you maybe share whether or not this is to service a single site and can you clarify for us if this is for a silicon or silicon carbide fab application?

Michael Whang
CEO, Amtech Systems

Hi, Craig. Good to hear from you, and thanks for joining us. I'm gonna have Paul answer that question and give you some additional details on that specific order.

Paul Lancaster
VP of Sales and Customer Service, Amtech Systems

Hi, Craig. Yeah, this was for multiple units. These are our controlled atmosphere furnaces built out of our Billerica facility in Massachusetts. They are going to a single site factory located in Asia. It's a Direct Bond Copper application used for making components directly related to electric vehicle electrification application.

Craig Irwin
Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst, Roth Capital

Okay, excellent. Excellent. It sounds like it's sort of downstream in the packaging market. Is that fair? Sort of for the module assembly?

Paul Lancaster
VP of Sales and Customer Service, Amtech Systems

Exactly.

Craig Irwin
Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst, Roth Capital

I just want to understand sort of where. Okay. Okay. My next question is really about this supply chain issue in the United States, right? You guys are a little bit off cycle, so this is very informative for all the investors that follow this industry and are obviously, you know, listening carefully to what you say because we know that you manage the company very well. Can you maybe give us a little bit more color on which components are seeing scarcity right now, and whether or not this has changed dramatically in the last couple of months, or if this is sort of continuity, deterioration, improvement? Any color here that you could share would be useful.

Michael Whang
CEO, Amtech Systems

Hi, Craig. I can take that one. This is more of a continuation of the challenges that we've seen at the onset of COVID. As you know, there are shortages across the board amongst our peers and customers in electronics, especially in chips, as silly as that sounds, motors, drive units, and even sheet metal. The volatility that we've seen in our supply chain pre-COVID is real. As we try to shift away from that volatility source, we're also finding out that the new areas that we're looking into to shore up and strengthen our supply chain is not at a position that's comparable to, say, Asia, right? I would say that it is overall stabilizing. It's getting better as we navigate through different supplier options.

Also based on the current macro disruptions, logistically, geopolitically, it's imperative that we diversify away from our traditional supply chain base and strengthen that area. That's very key to servicing very quickly the growing backlog that we have. That, in my eyes, is not sustainable. We are taking rapid steps at the moment to diversify and strengthen our supply chain.

Craig Irwin
Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst, Roth Capital

Understood. That makes a lot of sense. Coming to the silicon carbide consumables, you know, that's exciting growth to see that growing more than 100%. Can you maybe share with us a little bit more color? The market leaders are all looking for multi-fold growth off of where they were last year. You know, things have been lagging for many of the producers.

Can you share whether or not this more than 100% growth you saw was dollar volume for Amtech, and whether or not it correlates to the numbers of square inch of wafers processed, or if given the anticipated move to eight-inch wafers and some of the other changes in the market are causing sort of the opportunity per square inch to be slightly different for eight-inch versus six-inch or six-inch today versus what six-inch was, you know, one year ago, two years ago?

Paul Lancaster
VP of Sales and Customer Service, Amtech Systems

Hi, Craig. This is Paul. I'll kind of give you a little color there. To answer your first question, yeah, that was revenue growth year-over-year. It is, you know, we don't, you know, we can't go into great detail on sort of the configuration of our consumables, because those are confidential obviously. It is tracking pretty well. You know, as we said previously, there's always been a lot of talk about expansions on the fab side as it relates to silicon carbide. What we're seeing today is wafer capacity is starting to finally expand. We're seeing this growth because of those, public announcements where they are adding capacity on the wafering side, and that's the areas where our consumables are used.

We've said in the past that as they expand, you know, we will see an increase in sort of a plateau. As they expand again, we'll see another step level increase as well. We anticipate this to continue. It's hard to speculate at what rate because, you know, a lot of these leaders are very, let's say, closed in terms of providing forecasts and plans. You know, overall the demand environment is very favorable. You know, obviously it sounds like the demand will outstrip supply for the remainder of this decade. We're well positioned. As Lisa mentioned, you know, we are continuing to invest in capacity.

As Michael mentioned, the supply chain is being fortified, to be sure that we're ready to service that ramp when it does continue to happen.

Michael Whang
CEO, Amtech Systems

Craig, I will add.

Craig Irwin
Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst, Roth Capital

Just one last. Sure. Sorry.

Michael Whang
CEO, Amtech Systems

This is Mike. I will add predominantly the consumables are still on six-inch.

Craig Irwin
Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst, Roth Capital

That is exactly what I wanted to ask. eight-inch is not yet material, and that's an opportunity for growth.

Michael Whang
CEO, Amtech Systems

No, it's not material.

Craig Irwin
Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst, Roth Capital

Is that a fair-?

Michael Whang
CEO, Amtech Systems

No, what-

Craig Irwin
Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst, Roth Capital

Is that a fair... Okay.

Michael Whang
CEO, Amtech Systems

Yes. That's fair. We are sampling eight-inch, but it's not anywhere near volume, levels. To my eyes, it's still like pilot line evaluation.

Craig Irwin
Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst, Roth Capital

Understood. Understood. Well, hey, guys, congratulations on a well-executed quarter. We do understand supply chains are challenging for everyone and, you know, look forward to that being resolved for you and the upwards trajectory continuing the path you rode last year. Thank you.

Michael Whang
CEO, Amtech Systems

Thank you, Craig.

Lisa Gibbs
CFO, Amtech Systems

Thank you, Craig.

Paul Lancaster
VP of Sales and Customer Service, Amtech Systems

Thank you, Craig.

Operator

Just as a reminder, if you have any questions, you may press star one on your telephone keypad. Our next question comes from the line of Mark Miller with The Benchmark Company. Please proceed with your question.

Mark Miller
Senior Equity Analyst, The Benchmark Company

Let me add my congratulations on the strong quarter. Getting back to the $8 million order you just announced, where are the shipments are they gonna be throughout fiscal 2023 or the first half of the year?

Lisa Gibbs
CFO, Amtech Systems

I think it's, we indicated in the press release, it's more the back half of our fiscal 2023, Mark.

Mark Miller
Senior Equity Analyst, The Benchmark Company

Okay. You're talking about a change in customer base. Is that just more, you know, can I interpret that meaning you're just seeing, you know, growth in terms of the consumables versus other areas like AP?

Paul Lancaster
VP of Sales and Customer Service, Amtech Systems

Hi, Mark. This is Paul Lancaster. Yeah, we indicated there is a softness right now in our advanced packaging. Again, we did see some significant growth year-over-year on the consumables. Additionally, we saw some significant growth in the belt furnaces, the configured belt furnaces that are built out of our U.S. factory at our BTU division. A lot of that's being driven with, you know, end markets as related to electric vehicle applications.

Michael Whang
CEO, Amtech Systems

Hey, Mark, this is Mike. I will also add that there is a portion of our business right now that ebbs and flows with a broader semiconductor market, right? What gives me great comfort and excitement is that a greater portion of our business, as evidenced by that recent order and approximately half of our backlog is related to EV applications. We have more overflow, more demand in megatrend growth areas that could smooth out and counter the natural cyclicality in the semiconductor market.

Mark Miller
Senior Equity Analyst, The Benchmark Company

Yeah. Can you break out in terms of the belt furnaces, what impact they were, what % of sales they were last quarter?

Lisa Gibbs
CFO, Amtech Systems

Unfortunately, we do not provide that breakout. I know it would be nice to have, but we've not provided that publicly, Mark.

Mark Miller
Senior Equity Analyst, The Benchmark Company

Okay, just one more. Any impact on the U.S. restrictions? I don't believe there should be an impact, but just won't have to ask that one. The new U.S. restrictions, have they had any impact on your customers? That's more advanced logic and memory, I know that.

Michael Whang
CEO, Amtech Systems

All right. Yes, absolutely right, Mark. So far, there has been no to minimal impacts for us. The market segments we serve are not restricted from the current U.S. government restrictions.

Mark Miller
Senior Equity Analyst, The Benchmark Company

Thank you.

Lisa Gibbs
CFO, Amtech Systems

Thanks, Mark.

Paul Lancaster
VP of Sales and Customer Service, Amtech Systems

Thanks, Mark.

Michael Whang
CEO, Amtech Systems

Thanks, Mark.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Kevin Garrigan with WestPark Capital. Please proceed with your question.

Kevin Garrigan
Senior Research Analyst, WestPark Capital

Hi, everyone. Great speaking with you again. Let me echo my congrats on the strong execution. Just a few questions on my end. To start, you know, this is a multi-part question. You know, you booked

A large repeat order, you increased bookings, related to EV by 4x. Electric vehicles are becoming increasingly significant. Can you kind of give us a sense of the dollar opportunity for Amtech when it comes to electric vehicles over the next few years? You know, has this number changed since last year, 2020? Would you say that we're still full steam ahead, or you think you might see something slow next year?

Michael Whang
CEO, Amtech Systems

Lisa is looking at me with a stern eye. What I can say is there is sufficient momentum in EV growth that occurred in the last fiscal year, which in the beginning it was a nice surprise, but then it became more than a trend, right? What we anticipate is going forward is that we will continue to capture more EV-related orders, outside of our traditional materials and substrate business units. This is very exciting, very heartening for us that across all of our business units now, they are fully participating in the EV demand growth cycle.

Kevin Garrigan
Senior Research Analyst, WestPark Capital

Okay. Got it. That makes a lot of sense. Thank you for that. Lisa, you know, you've had a solid cash position. Can you kinda give us a sense of what your focus is in terms of capital allocation?

Lisa Gibbs
CFO, Amtech Systems

Sure. you know, as we've talked about the challenges that we're facing, you know, in capacity and supply chain, you know, we're looking very closely at what we need to do to build that up. When I talk about capacity, that can range from, you know, finding some contract manufacturing partners to help us, you know, work that backlog, as well as, you know, some possible, you know, shift additions into our current workforce so that we can start to bring that backlog down in a more meaningful, faster way. That's part of it. you know, we've talked about product development, and we're going to have some exciting, you know, products on the horizon in the next year.

M&A, you know, it continues to be something that we're very focused and interested in. We'll see if, you know, this current environment might present, you know, better opportunities than we saw during some of the peak cycles. All of that is very much on our radar. As we've done in the past, as we work through those priorities, you know, we'll look at, you know, buybacks and other ways to return capital to our shareholders.

Kevin Garrigan
Senior Research Analyst, WestPark Capital

Okay. Perfect. Then just the last one. You know, we just spoke about electric vehicles. You know, as we look out to 2023, just at a high level, you know, what are kind of the one or two opportunities that are that get you guys most excited about next year? Then, you know, what are the one or two things that, you know, you're most worried about or that keep you up at night?

Michael Whang
CEO, Amtech Systems

I'll take the first swing at that. What keeps me up at night is the continued uncertainty and volatility that we're all facing, especially around trade sanctions, logistical flows and supply chain. I made this comment earlier is that what we've all experienced since 2020 is that we built a very nice fair weather global supply chain that couldn't stand up to the rigors of the current volatilities and the storms that we're facing. We're just now, I think, starting to adapt. That adaptation takes time because we invested just globally, so much of our investments in the supply chain was in one geographic area, and now we need to kind of mitigate the risks around that system, right?

That's what keeps me up at night more than anything else, is this ongoing supply chain logistical issues. What I'm excited about is our two parts. It fits under one narrative right now, is that we have firmly latched on to the growth opportunities in electric vehicles, you know, vehicles themselves and the broader infrastructure. Unlike prior years where we only had one business unit participate, our materials and substrate, now that has swung across to our other business unit, and that's very exciting. We have a play on the material side with silicon carbide for the EV growth, and then we also have a play more downstream in the assemblies and modules from our belt furnaces made in the U.S.

I do anticipate that to grow in the coming years.

Kevin Garrigan
Senior Research Analyst, WestPark Capital

Okay. Perfect. That's awesome. Yeah, that was all I had. Appreciate the color and congrats again.

Lisa Gibbs
CFO, Amtech Systems

Thank you.

Michael Whang
CEO, Amtech Systems

Thanks, Kevin.

Lisa Gibbs
CFO, Amtech Systems

Thank you, Kevin.

Michael Whang
CEO, Amtech Systems

Thank you.

Operator

Looks like we have one more question from Mark Miller with The Benchmark Company. Please proceed with your question.

Mark Miller
Senior Equity Analyst, The Benchmark Company

I'm just wondering about the guidance. You, you had similar revenues in the June quarter of 2021, yet you had, it looks like an operating profit. I'm just wondering what's differing. Is it margins or Opex? What's causing you to forecast operating a negative operating margin?

Lisa Gibbs
CFO, Amtech Systems

A lot of it is product mix. Right now, you have the softness that we're seeing in our advanced packaging and SMT, which is our products that ship out of our Shanghai facility. That's where we're having the most, you know, softness in our bookings. You know, we're relying more heavily on our U.S.-built products, which have a lower gross margin profile. Product mix. We are seeing some material cost increases as well, which, you know, we're doing our best to counteract with some levels of price increases. We're trying to hold Opex as steady as we can, but labor, certainly is driving some increases as well.

Mark Miller
Senior Equity Analyst, The Benchmark Company

Thank you.

Lisa Gibbs
CFO, Amtech Systems

Thanks, Mark.

Operator

We have reached the end of our question and answer session, and this also concludes today's conference, and you may disconnect your line at this time. Thank you for your participation.

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