Earnings Call: Q1 2020

May 6, 2020

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by, and welcome to the Atara Biotherapeutics First Quarter 2020 Financial Results Conference Call. Please be advised that today's call is being recorded. I'd now like to hand the call over to Erik Hallengren, Vice President of Investor Relations and Finance at Atara Biotherapeutics. Please go ahead, sir. Thank you, Elaine. Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to Atara's Q1 2020 conference call. On today's call, we will provide an update of our operational and strategic progress, review our upcoming key milestones and objectives for 2020 and discuss the potential impacts of the COVID-nineteen pandemic on our current and planned activities. Earlier today, we issued a press release providing an overview of the company's Q1 2020 financial results and operational progress. This press release and an updated investor presentation are available in the Investor and Media section at attarabio.com. Joining me on today's call are Doctor. Pascal Tuchamp, President and Chief Executive Officer Gopal Copikar, Chief Financial Officer Joe Newell, Chief Operations Officer and Doctor. A. J. Joshi, Chief Medical Officer. We will begin with prepared comments from Pascal and then open the call for your questions. We would like to remind listeners that during the call, the company's management will be making forward looking statements. Actual results could differ materially from those stated or implied by our forward looking statements due to risks and uncertainties associated with the company's business. These forward looking statements are qualified in their entirety by the cautionary statements contained in today's press release and the company's SEC filings. These statements are made as of today's date, and the company undertakes no obligation to update these statements. Now I'd like to turn the call over to Pascal. Pascal? Thank you, Eric, and thanks to all of you for joining us this afternoon. Let me open today's call by acknowledging the environment we are currently in. This global pandemic has impacted many lives across the globe, and our hearts go out to everyone who has been directly affected. Sharing the same vision as our frontline health care workers to serve patients, we at ATAR would like to honor and thank the healthcare professionals who are here especially during this time. This moment in time only reinforces our deep commitment to making a difference in patients' lives. It is with tremendous pride that I acknowledge the commitment and resiliency of our entire Atara team, where we remain focused on the mission to serve patients and implemented industry leading practices to ensure safety while mitigating the impact of COVID-nineteen on our business. We have made significant progress in the Q1 of 2020 toward accomplishing our key objectives. Importantly, we remain on track to initiate the BDA submission for tab cel in the second half of twenty twenty and to present key data from the Phase 1a study of 8,188 in patients with progressive multiple sclerosis in the 2nd quarter. I want to take a moment to provide a brief update on the operational adjustments we have made in response to the pandemic. 1st, prior to COVID-nineteen outbreak, as part of our routine supply planning and operational risk management strategies, we had already manufactured significant inventories across TapCel, 8,188 and our other programs, including process intermediates and the required starting materials needed to maintain long term product supply. Consequently, we continue to deliver product to patients for more inventory, which is a clear advantage of such off the shelf allogeneic EBV T cells. In addition, our teams have been working closely with our clinical side to ensure the safety of site staff and patients and to preserve data integrity and access to treatment as appropriate. Where needed, they have established remote study visits, leveraged telemedicine on healthcare and other methods to ensure continuity of care for patients and to preserve key endpoint data. We are closely monitoring the evolving COVID-nineteen pandemic and continue to assess its potential impact on our business and operations, including the timing and execution of clinical and preclinical studies. Regardless of the current pandemic, Atara Biotherapeutics remains a pioneer in allogeneic T cell immunotherapy. With our lead program in Phase III clinical development, we are the most advanced allogeneic T cell immunotherapy company, and we intend to rapidly deliver off the shelf treatments to patients with high unmet medical need. Our platform leverages the unique biology of EBV T cells and has the capability to treat a wide range of EBV associated disease or other severe disease, including solid tumors and hematological cancers for incorporation of engineered CARs or TCRs. A key step toward achieving this mission is initiating the BLA submission for tab cel in EBV plus PTLD, which remains on track for the second half of twenty twenty. We are very pleased to have enrolled a sufficient number of patients in our Phase 3 study to perform an interim analysis in Q3 2020 after the appropriate follow-up. We then plan to request a preliminary meeting with FDA discuss the totality of data from the Tuft Cell program, including the MSKCC Phase 2 studies and ATARA's expanded access program and Sigal patient use. If the totality of clinical data are considered compelling in all by the FDA, we will initiate a BLA submission for tab cel. With respect to site activity and patient enrollment for the ongoing Phase 3 tab cel study, most of the 40 active clinical sites in the U. S. And Australia are available for enrollment. And we are continuing to prepare to open additional sites in the U. S, Canada and Europe. As previously discussed, we submitted clinical trial applications, or CTAs, to several European countries in November December 2019 to enable the opening of European clinical sites in 2020. In addition to the previously reported approvals in the UK, Austria and Spain, I am very pleased to report that the CTA in France was recently approved and that we have just activated our 1st European site in Spain. As I've noted before, these additional sites are being added to support full enrollment of the Phase 3 study and not an interim analysis for which we have already enrolled a sufficient number of patients. With respect to tab cel regulatory failure in Europe in 2020, we submitted a Pediatric Investigator Plan, or PIP, to the EMA as per the usual requirements. Following EMA approval of the PIP, we intend to submit a tab cel EU marketing authorization application for patients with EBV positive PTLD in 2021. We continue to see strong top cell investigator, physician and patient interest even during this COVID-nineteen pandemic. And for cases in which patients are not able to enroll in the EBV positive PTLD Phase 3 clinical study, we are providing TapCel to patients in need under our EAP and also SPU. Additionally, a growing body of data suggests that TatCell may provide clinical benefit in additional EBV positive disease, and we are advancing clinical studies to further evaluate its potential. Toward this end, we continue to expect to initiate enrollment in the second half of 2020 in a tab cel Phase 2 multi cohort study that will include up to 6 additional ultrarare EBV positive patient populations. I will now turn to ATA188, our allogeneic T cell immunotherapy for the treatment of patients with multiple sclerosis. We previously reported encouraging early data at Xstreams 2019 from a Phase 1 multi center open label dose escalation study, evaluating the safety and efficacy of ATA188 in patient with progressive form of MS. We are looking forward to presenting in the Q2 of 2020 in an appropriate form the 6 months results for the dose escalating cohort 124 and very importantly, the 12 months results for the quarter 123. We plan to present data on clinical measures and in particular assessment of disability. We also expect to present 12 month cohort 4 data in the second half of twenty twenty when such data are available. We are still retreating patients in the open label extension of the Phase 1a study in an appropriate setting given the constraint of the COVID-nineteen pandemic and as determined by the treating physician and patients. As previously announced, we have temporarily paused the screening and enrollment of patients in the Phase Ib randomized placebo study to ensure that the participating clinical sites can focus on meeting the needs of patients with COVID-nineteen and to protect the safety of study participants, investigators and staff. These polls will also help preserve the study and data integrity as they are numerous assessments that require a specific clinical setting and we want to have confidence that the clinical environment will allow these assessments to be conducted at the time period specified in the protocol. Based on our current assessment and information from the clinical sites, we expect this post to be limited and therefore to initiate enrollment in this study in the 2nd or Q3 of 2020. Forgot the Q1 of 2020, we also continued to make progress in advancing our CAR T pipeline. We expect that our collaborators at Memorial Sloan Kettering will submit an IND application to the FDA in the 2nd or Q3 of 2020 for our next generation methoteline targeted autologous CAR T immunotherapy ATA-two thousand two hundred and seventy one. ATA-two thousand two hundred and seventy one is designed to improve efficacy, persistence and durability of response using novel 1XX CAR costimetry MAIN and cell intrinsic checkpoint inhibition technology with a P1 dominant negative receptor. Preclinical data from ATA-two thousand two hundred and seventy one IND enabling studies have been accepted as a late breaking e poster at the AACR Virtual Annual Meeting in June, and the abstract will be released on May 15. We also expect that MSK will present additional clinical data for the academic 1st generation program in the second half of the year. We have a strategic preclinical IND enabling study for our CAR T, ATA-three thousand two hundred and seventy one, as well as for ATA-three thousand two hundred and nineteen, or CD19 targeted CAR T. Both of these programs utilize our next generation CAR T technologies and EBV T cell platform. ATF-two nineteen in particular is supported by the initial proof of principle from an academic off the shelf allogeneic EBV CD19 cardiac clinic study presented at the 2020 TCT meetings, which to date show the longest duration of response for an allogeneic CD19 CAR T with 26.9 months median follow-up. As we invest multiple innovative programs and generate a growing body of promising clinical data, we are increasingly confident that our IBD cell platform and technologies are strongly positioned to provide patients with meaningful clinical benefit and create tremendous value for shareholders. EBVT sales offer numerous advantages as the basis of our allogeneic platform as they are potent cell killers that specifically target disease cells, are safe, traffic to the site of disease, expand and persist in patients. Beyond the therapeutic potential of our platform, we also have a robust and scalable manufacturing capability that is nearing commercial readiness. We are on track to complete commercial validation this year and have the ability to rapidly deliver product from inventory to patients in the U. S, Europe and Australia in 3 days or less. We continue to innovate at our manufacturing facility in Southern California. Over time, we expect to further increase manufacturing yields to bring ATARA off the shelf ATC cell therapy cost of goods manufactured in range with those of traditional biologics. In addition to the significant progress we achieved in the Q1 in our clinical, preclinical and manufacturing activities, we also continue to attract highly talented individuals to the Atara team. I am confident in the leadership team we are building out, including Ron Renaud who has been appointed as our new Non Executive Board Chair and Amar Murigan was named Senior Vice President and General Counsel. We are making tremendous progress on hiring a new Head of R and D and currently expect to make this announcement in the very near future. We are on track to achieve our key 2020 objectives, and I strongly believe that we have the team, the technology and the passion to succeed in our mission of innovating with transformative immuno therapies that have the potential to improve outcome for patients with serious disease. Now turning to our financial results. We ended the Q1 of 2020 with $214,600,000 in cash, cash equivalents and short term investments. This is a decrease of $44,500,000 from the prior quarter and reflect cash used from operating activities of $67,000,000 offset by net proceeds from our at the market facility or ATM of €23,100,000 We believe our cash, cash equivalents and short term investments as of March 31, 2020 are sufficient to fund planned operations into the Q2 of 2021. In summary, despite operating in these unique and changing times, we remain committed to our mission and believe that we'll be able to continue advancing our programs in the months ahead. I believe that this experience will only strengthen our resolve and commitment to our company and the patients we seek to serve. I know that many of you are experiencing disruption in your own professional and personal lives, and I truly appreciate your time today. I also want to take this opportunity to thank our staff and our clinical collaborators for continuing to support our trials as they face their own challenges in caring for patients in an unprecedented environment. I also want to ensure the patients currently participating or interested in participating in our studies that we remain committed to their safety and are positioned to continue closing in our ongoing studies as they and their physicians deem operate. We understand that the pandemic is another significant obstacle in what is already a tremendously challenging patient journey, and we are doing everything in our power to minimize its impact on how we move forward. I hope that everyone on the call today is staying safe and healthy, and I look forward to sharing our progress with you in the weeks months ahead. I'll now turn the call back to the operator to begin the Q and A portion of the call. Operator? And your first question comes from the line of Mark Frahm from Cowen and Company. Yes. Thanks for taking my questions. Pascal, thanks for the extra clarity kind of around the BLA submission and the interim analysis. But I guess what's the current plan on when we will see the data that's being generated in Q3? Should we it would seem that the timing would be amenable to something like an ASH presentation. Should we expect to see that this year? Or is it likely not in the coming months? Thank you, Marc, for your question. As we said previously in previous call, we will discuss with the FDA during the pre BLA meeting the totality of data including the interim analysis. And then we'll also discuss with them regarding what will be needed for the completion of the submission as well as the possibility for us to communicate and how to communicate on this interim analysis data. So it all depends on the timing of this pre BLA meeting. And then, of course, we will communicate with the agreement of the FDA at an appropriate congress after that pre BLA meeting. And your next question comes from the line of John Newman from Canaccord. Thanks very much for taking my question and thank you for the updates. So Pascal, I just wondered if you could comment a bit about what you expect to see in terms of enrollment from your European sites. You mentioned in your prepared remarks that you have the first site open for enrollment. Just curious if you can talk to us about perhaps the number of additional sites you'll be looking to open in Europe and of what you would expect from enrollment there? Thank you. Thank you, John, for your question. Ajay, do you want to answer? Sure. Thanks, John. I think a couple of important points, right? Just to reinforce Pascal's point earlier that our focus until now has been the 40 U. S. And Australia sites and that's driven us to the enrollment points that Pascal mentioned earlier. In terms of the European sites, we're not really going to specifically talk about the numbers of sites. The main point here is that the European sites are being opened now so that we can complete the study enrollment and that gives us a much more expeditious path to complete it as rapidly as possible. And your next question comes from the line of Salim Syed from Mizuho. Thanks so much guys. Thanks Pascal for all the clarity. I guess a few from me on multiple sclerosis on ATA188, if I can. One, can you just I presume you submitted a late breaker for EAN and you're going to find out at some point whether that's been accepted or not. If we are going to get the data at EEN, can you tell us how you're since it's so close to how you're thinking about displaying that data, not what the data is, but how are we going to get that data? Is it going to still be lumped like the ECTRIMS data or is it going to be more granular? That's the first question. And then the second question I had was just on the clinicaltrials dotgov update, which looks like in March of this year, you guys upped the trial for the Phase 1 ATA188 from 72 patients to 97 patients. And I'm wondering why you did that, the implications coming out of that? And then lastly, how much data do you need, based on your discussions with the regulators, perhaps, to file early on ATA188 if you show reversal on disability from baseline? Okay. Thank you, Salim. Very detailed question and thank you. I appreciate that. Ajay, do you want to take this question? I will chime in if needed. Sure. So thanks, Liam. I think, yes, we have submitted to EAN for a late breaker and we're waiting the decision as everyone else is, quite frankly for the late breakers. And in terms of the question on how we're going to be presenting this, we're certainly going to be giving more detailed information because as the data is matured, we're able to now actually provide the level of detail. And to kind of reinforce the notion, one of the biggest questions we continue to be asked is what were the what do the disability assessments look like? And we'll be providing detail on those, both via In terms of the patient enrollment numbers, part of what we're doing here is we've set up the design of that study to allow us to have various elements of adaptive design so that if we see any elements of clinical signal or biological signals in the course of that study, we're able to adapt the design and essentially targeted towards potentially more meaningful statistical outcomes. So it's really an element flexibility that you're seeing there as opposed to a specific need or driver that says we need to add more patients. It's meant to allow us the flexibility so that we can power the study along a variety of different measures depending on how the Cohort 4 data look as well as how some of the blinded information looks like in the RCT. And I guess the third question that you had was in terms of if we were to see reversal of disability then does that give us some kind of accelerated pathway. I'm not going to comment on a specific whether reversal or specific endpoint at this point. What I would say is that if there is if we're able to show an efficacy signal that would be a transformational product profile when you prove it out in later studies, then I do think that creates significant opportunity for various conversations with FDA on some form of accelerated pathway. But all of that obviously has to be proven out a bit more in a randomized setting to be able to say that there might be any kind of accelerated pathway there. But certainly, a transformational potentially transformational profile would give us that opportunity. Thank you, Andrew. And it's really what's important for us, Salim, is really to aim at transformative treatment of MS. And that's what we would like to bring for further development of that product in line with the need, medical conditions in that population because as you know, no treatment today is really able to reverse decline or they're just delaying the decline. I mean, talking about treatment approved in breast cancer. So there is really an unmet medical need and we really aim at addressing that unmet medical need. Thank you. And your next question comes from the line of Miguel Vakomovitz from Citigroup. Yes. Hi. Thanks for taking the questions. Can you just explain a little bit more exactly is going to happen at the Q3? What that you set for what would be a success analysis. So understanding of what you need? Ical, we have some chance to hear you, but I guess you have question about the interim analysis in Q3 2020 and what will be considered a success, isn't it? Yes. What yes, success, is there an internal you've outlined that need to be comfortable with Okay. I think I understand your question. Thank you. Ajay, do you want to answer and then Yigal, you will tell us whether it's answering your question because we still have some difficulty to hear you clearly. Yes, I apologize. I'm going to just take a crack at it, Yigal, and see if it hits the point. I think the as is the case in most ultra rare conditions, the totality of data is what's most relevant here. We're not going to be specifically getting interim analysis. I think the key point here is that when you have the Phase 3 data and the totality of information that we've described here, it's that package that will drive the FDA view on things. And if you think about an ultra rare condition, the package of information we have here is fairly significant when you look at totality of information. So I think that's the main factor is how does that entire view look, of course incorporating these major elements of the Phase 3 enrollment in study. Does that answer the question? Yes. And I guess I was looking for numbers. I probably don't want to give numbers. I just wanted I was hoping to get a sense as to more detail, but I understand you're not in a position to talk about that. I also wanted to understand that the additional patients in the so those patients, I mean, they're obviously not an interim They're going to be that data will be submitted later, presumably when you get that data from these additional patients for the cytisinic data you started in? Yes. I guess it's still very difficult to hear you, Yigal. I guess your question is, what is the objective of the patient the additional patient to complete the enrollment of the study and how do we plan to discuss this with regulatory authorities. Is that right? Yes. Can you hear me better now? Is that better? Yes. Much better now. Yes. Okay. Ajay, do you want to answer that question? Yes. So the typically when if we were to do when you do an analysis like this, I think I got your question correctly where those additional data that get generated after this analysis are information that you're definitely going to provide to the regulators. And oftentimes in a situation like this and I'm not going to predict which way things go, but those wouldn't necessarily be a prerequisite for example for moving forward. Most of the time, those are things that say the data that you provided at the time of the pre BLA discussion are the basis for the decision that they make to say, yes, let's you can move forward with your BLA filing. Any data that you generate related to the Phase 2 program, they're always going to want to see when you finish generating those. But they will not be necessary for that decision that is made at the timing of the pre BELA meeting. Okay. But that's yes, yes, but the first submission for the BLA, that will be I mean, is it understood that that's going to be a conditional on further data or is this going to be a full approval or you don't know yet? I think that's a review issue. That's going to be part of the discussion with FDA at the pre delay meeting. But I wouldn't a priori say that this is going to be a conditional. It would not. Okay, got it. So that's not a priori. Not a priori conditional. Okay. And then I just have a question on MS. So we've talked to some of the experts in the United States and we talked to one fellow at Cleveland Clinic who's one of the KOLs in EBV biology and well in MS. And he was saying that his view is that the EBV hypothesis is quite strong in relapsed refractory disease, but not as clear in Okay. We lost you again. But I guess you wanted to say in PMS. So probably your question is that upon the EBV expert you mentioned, things that the EBV hypothesis is in MS is stronger in relapse remitting than it is in progressive? Ajay, do you want to take that and I will chime in? Sure. The hypothesis so and I'd love to maybe have some conversations because these are always good dialogue. But for that particular individual, the EBV hypothesis actually does not differentiate between whether it's relapsing remitting or progressive MS. And to give you a little perspective, we had recent advisory board with all our top advisors. And these are very well established individuals within the MS space. And very consistently, there's no reason why it should impact one space versus the other. Their comment is, hey, if we start seeing something in PMS, you should be looking at all of them. And that has always been the plan. So there's not really been a differentiation. The hypothesis is MS. It's not just PMS. There should be really no difference between those two spaces in terms of EBV being a major element of the pathogenesis of the MS process. And clearly, the reason we went to progressive MS, as I said earlier on, is because of the immense unmet medical need that exists there. And if we can show safety in this early study safety and a potential clinical efficacy signal that represent would represent a transformational product profile in PMS, we will then go, of course, not only to pursue that in PMS, but also in other type of MS. And your next question comes from the line of Ben Bennett from Stifel. Hi, this is Kaylee Breza on for Ben Burnett. My first question is just pertaining to tab cel. And I know that you guys are looking to do a Phase 2 multi cohort study that includes up to 6 additional ultra rare EBV plus patients. I was wondering if you could provide any additional color pertaining to like disease severity, patient population size relative to PTLD? Yes. I think clearly this study that we're doing is intended to expand the tab cel label beyond second band PTLD and to address serious unmet need in patients with EBV positive disease. This study is planned with up to 6 additional cohorts, creating the possibility for additional indication or even potentially to discuss a broader mechanistic label. And this is based on experience that we have both ourselves at Atara with our EAP and single patient use as well as our collaborators that we modeled in earlier study that we have some clinical data in this type of patients. So we're building upon this clinical data to move forward in this multi cohort study. Each of these cohorts represents ultra rare conditions, but collectively, they represent a potentially addressable EBV population, EBV positive population several times greater than the size of the 2nd line EBV positive PTLD. And there are different type of disease that we're exploring there of patient population. Some are related to immunodeficiency, lipoproliferative disorders like primary immunodeficiency LPD and also acquired immunodeficiency LPD. We're also going to explore LMS, leiomyosarcoma for which we have presented data in the past as well as first line EBV PTLD for patients where current first line treatment are inappropriate and first or second line CNS PTLD. So as you can see, a range of different type of patient population. And altogether, these are representing a significant commercial potential if we are successful and a population that is several times greater than the size of the second line EBV plus PTLD, which is the first indication that we are pursuing. Great. And then if I can have one more question. I had a question regarding ATA-two thousand two hundred and seventy one. What's gating for the mesothelioma IND? And are there any plans to develop this and additional solid tumors outside of mesothelioma? So as we said, there will be the presentation of some preclinical data from the IND in EPIC studies that will be have been accepted as a late breaking poster at AACR. The abstract will be released on May 15. And these that are part of the package that we need or our collaborators who are going to at MSK, we're going to submit that IND needs to submit the IND. All the data and all the studies have been done now. So it's just more of moving into the preparation of the submission. And that's why we are confident that this IND submission should be able to be done in Q2 or Q3 2020. Now in terms of this first study, it will be addressing advanced mesothelioma, but we have the plan to go in other type of solid tumors where you have high expression of mesotheli, in particular ovarian cancer and pancreatic cancer. And your next question comes from the line of Kelly Butler from Roth Capital. Pascal, thank you very much. Really three very brief questions. Number 1 is, when you think about the 1881a study, there in the open label portion, there's retreatment. And I'm curious if potentially there will be some retreatment data that will also be presented at EAN? That's question 1, and I'll finish the other 2 very quickly, if I may. The second is with respect to the 1b study of 188. I think currently you have 9 sites open. Because you've paused the 1b study, will you then decide to create a greater number of sites in order to speed up that enrollment opportunity? And then finally, on the CAR programs on 7,119, newer programs, do you think or is it a goal to file INDs for those in this calendar year or is that more a 2021 event? Thank you. Thank you, Tony. Ajay, do you want to take the first two questions? I'll take the last one. Sure. So with respect to the Phase 1a long term extension patients. Just a quick reminder, we chose the dose for that long term extension based on the Cohort 3 data. So if you recall, once we achieved the pre specified endpoints in the Phase 1a to move into the RCT, we did that based on the Phase 3 cohort dose. So that became the dose that we use for the open label extension. So it makes so because of that, we treated several patients actually. We've begun to treat them in that open label extension, but they're not far enough along to present at the EAN. So we will ultimately present those data, but they're not going to be available for the EAN discussion. And in terms of your question on adding additional sites to try to catch up on the RCT, the good news for us is although we paused the actual enrollment, we were able to continue the pre screening activity. So we do have several patients lined up for those for that study once we're able to resume full enrollment activities. So I don't really anticipate needing to sorry, go ahead. Yes. We lost you. So if you can start explaining that what's happening in the current time where we pause, but we're still active in preparing the site? I guess that's what you wanted to say. Yes. Sorry about the connection issue. Yes. So we've remained active in essentially pre screening patients for the study so that we've actually got several patients lined up so that the moment we resume enrollment activities, we can put them through the full screening process. Because of that, I don't really anticipate needing to add additional sites. And where we are now is we do expect to resume enrollment activity soon in that study. Specifically, the approach is going to be that, as you might imagine with COVID-nineteen, there's center by center variability. We have really close relationships with the sites. So what we're going to do is on a site by site basis to expeditiously get them started up again, we've just got a checklist that ensures that the sites have the capability to do all the assessments that are necessary, that they have the staff, facilities and equipment all available. And as long as we're able to meet that checklist, we're going to be able to resume enrollment at those sites. So again, I anticipate that happening very soon because of that and the patients we As you know, we have started the IND enabling study and we are making steady progress towards bringing these exciting assets into the clinic. We will we are not communicating right now the timing of such IND filing and we'll communicate the timing And your next question comes from the line of Maury Raycroft from Jefferies. Hi. This is Faizin on for Maury. I guess couple of quick questions. For the IND enabling studies of the ATA-two thousand two hundred and seventy one, do you expect to include like non human primates data or if you can provide some more perspective into what to expect? I think his line is disconnected and he's dialing back in now. One moment. Okay. Hello. May I have your conference ID number, please? Me? Do you want me to just join you back into the conference? Hello? Yes. Is it for me, from Mario Reco's line? Yes. Yes. That would be great. Okay. I'm just going to rejoin you back into the conference. I think something has happened to the lines. One moment please. Hi, everyone. This is Ajay Joshi. Sorry for the technical issues that have just been able to get back in. Okay. Eric, are you on? It looks like they have him and about to put him in. Okay. So I was going to say maybe what we can do is, moderator, do you know where we got lost? Was it in the middle of my response on the MS, so I could continue that while we wait for others to join back in? I think it might be, A. J. I think it was when I was starting to answer in 'eighteen, 'twenty 19. So maybe you can start there. Can I start, operator? Operator, can I start? Are we online? Yes, you may go ahead. So hello, everyone, and very, very sorry. I really apologize for this technical issue. So I'm going to go back to the questions from Tony on 3,219. As I said, at this stage, we are working actively on the IND and ending studies, but we're not going to say when is that going to be filed. We will do that at the appropriate time. However, I would like to say that this program, we believe, is very exciting because this field of CD19 CAR T is well known in terms of the level of safety and efficacy achieved by autologous carpi at this stage. And we believe that we in going as fast as we can in a clinic, we can really deliver a proof of concept of our platform in terms of its ability to deliver safe and effective AlloCAR T. But at the same time, if due to the specificity of our Allo platform, particularly so the EBV T cell and 1XX as a unique cost military domain that impacts on the persistence and efficacy of the T cells, having less exhaustion of the T cells, this might lead to superior activity in patients. And in that case, of course, that will create a very significant value for that product. Does it answer your question, Tony? Okay. Maybe next question, operator? Maury Raycroft from Jefferies. Can you hear me? Yes, we can. Okay. Thanks. This is Farzin on for Maury. So the first question is for the AATA-two thousand two hundred and seventy one program. Are you going to have non human primary data included there as well that you're going to present? For ATA-two thousand two hundred and seventy one, the mesotidine autologous RT, that's the one you're asking about? Yes. Okay. So the IND enabling studies are mostly in vitro and in vivo studies that are needed as well of course CMC package that is needed for the FDA to review through the IND process. So the data that will be presented are related to in vivo preclinical studies. And I'm not going to give any more detail at this stage as the abstract is going to be released very soon. Okay. That's fine. For the MSK data previously, the after shells allo EPP CD19 data, so it lacked many specifics on the CAR T expansion persistence area. So did you get a chance to evaluate the peripheral and the marrow samples from the 10 patients? So this is, as you know, an academic study and the data they presented at the TCT meetings with by the way, on the 6 patients that we are treated with this 3rd party donor cells modified with CD19 CAR have been quite clear in terms not only of the level of response with 5 out of 6 in CR, but the durability of response for a median follow-up of 26.9 months, so the longest ever for an AlloCAR T. Now we don't have a near MSK as data at this stage on the kinetics of the cells. These are the type of data analysis that hopefully they will be able to do in the future based on the samples they have, but we don't have these data available at this stage. Okay. That's fine. The other question is for the ATLA188. Can you recap the redosing plan strategy and insights about how the redosing is going? Yes. Thank you for your question. Ajay, do you want to answer this one? Sure. So the redosing plan is when patients come do further dose and that's essentially we've left a relatively open window, but it's after the 12 month time point. So it's usually it's anywhere between 12 and I think we leave a window of about 12 months to 24 months because that allows some of the earlier cohort patients to be retreated. But the goal is to retreat as close to that 12 month timeframe as we can. And it will be it's basically one cycle treatment at that point. So it would be day 1, day 8, day 15, you get doses of APA188. And the goal is going to be that we're going to continue annual treatment on these patients all the way through to 5 years of follow-up from the initial study entry. Okay, great. Thank you. And your next question and your last question is from Salveen Richter from Goldman Sachs. Thanks for taking the questions. This is Andrea on for Salveen. Maybe just one question on tab cel. As you've seen an increasing number of clinical sites come online particularly in Europe, has this provided any additional insights into the potential market size opportunity? Thank you for your question. As you know, we are working on opening new sites in Europe in various countries. And we do so once we've obtained, of course, the CPA approval. This has been obtained in 4 countries right now: the U. K, Austria, Spain and France. So we're working in these 4 countries on active opening and activating sites. And as we said earlier on, we've just activated our first European site in Spain very recently. So things are progressing there. But I guess your question is about the medical need and the patient population. And when we discussed with your open expert, they clearly told us that there is a medical need. They have patients that don't have options for treatment today, and they are very eager to get access to tab cel. So we see that in terms of the clinical trials, but also we plan to open as we've done in Australia and the U. S. In parallel to our clinical trials, a compassionate use program, which is a different system of the EAP, but similar in different European countries, which is to be able to address the need of patients that for whatever reason cannot be enrolled in a study. So we clearly see a strong demand there from these sites in terms of having access to tab cel and we're getting ready to be able to deliver tab cel to them either through the clinical pivotal study or full compassionate use because they have many patients waiting for transformative treatment for their very severe and rapidly progressing disease. It's no further questions. That concludes our question and answer session for today. Thank you for joining the Atara Biotherapeutics First Quarter 2020 Financial Results Conference Call. You may now disconnect your line.