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Earnings Call: Q3 2023

Nov 1, 2023

Operator

Good morning, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to Atara Biotherapeutics' third quarter 2023 financial results conference call. If anyone should require operator assistance during the conference, please press star zero on your telephone keypad. Please be advised that today's call is being recorded. I would now like to hand the call over to Alex Chapman, Vice President of Corporate Communications and Investor Relations at Atara Biotherapeutics. Please go ahead, sir.

Alex Chapman
VP of Corporate Communications and Investor Relations, Atara Biotherapeutics

Thank you, Sherry. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to Atara's conference call to discuss our expanded tab-cel global partnership with Pierre Fabre Laboratories and our third quarter 2023 update. Earlier today, we issued a press release announcing this partnership and our third quarter financial results. This press release and an updated slide deck are available in the investors and media section at atarabio.com. Joining me on today's call are Dr. Pascal Touchon, President and Chief Executive Officer, and Eric Hyllengren, Chief Financial Officer. We will begin with prepared remarks, then open the call for your questions. We would like to remind listeners that during the call, the company's management will be making forward-looking statements. Actual results could differ materially from those stated or implied by our forward-looking statements due to risks and uncertainties associated with the company's business.

These forward-looking statements are qualified in their entirety by the cautionary statements contained in today's press release and the company's SEC filings. These statements are made as of today's date, and the company undertakes no obligation to update these statements. Now, I'd like to turn the call over to Pascal. Pascal?

Pascal Touchon
President and CEO, Atara Biotherapeutics

Thank you, Alex, and thank you all for joining us this morning. Today, we announce the global expansion of our tab-cel partnership with Pierre Fabre Laboratories. We are already successfully launching this product across Europe. In parallel, we announce a strategic restructuring that, together with the expanded tab-cel partnership, will extend Atara's planned cash runway into Q3 2025. This positions us well to continue building the value of our pipeline, including through anticipated clinical milestones for ATA188, with the interim readout in early November, as well as initial data for the ATA3219 program in lymphoma. Now, I'll start by covering the details of the partnership and strategic restructuring, followed by upcoming clinical milestones.

After a competitive process with significant interest from across the spectrum of large pharma, mid-size pharma, and biotech companies, we are excited to announce an expanded partnership with Pierre Fabre to commercialize tab-cel in the U.S. and all remaining global markets. This moment signifies a pivotal transition in Atara's evolution. We are now optimally positioned as a nimble allogeneic T-cell immunotherapy company with some near-term catalyst and the opportunity to advance a pipeline of differentiated therapies across a range of oncology and autoimmune indications from a proven EBV T-cell platform. We sought a partner that is committed to deliver tab-cel, a product with life-saving potential, to the U.S. and global patients.

In parallel, we pursued a deal structure that meaningfully reduces our cash burn over the next two years and provides Atara and shareholders with significant value, both through short-term cash and potential milestone payments, and long-term, significant double-digit royalties. Pierre Fabre brings substantial and demonstrated capabilities, evidenced by the successful launch of tab-cel, branded as EBVALLO, in European markets. We have found them to be committed collaborators for providing compelling justification to expand our partnership for tab-cel to reach as many patients as possible worldwide. Specific to the U.S., which is the largest commercial opportunity, Pierre Fabre is in a strong position to succeed, strengthening their U.S. presence with tab-cel as their flagship product and building onto their marketing experience in Europe. Now, for the specifics. Atara will receive up to $640 million in additional consideration, plus significant double-digit tiered royalties on net sales.

As part of the deal, we will receive approximately $30 million at deal closing in upfront and inventory purchase, and $100 million more in potential regulatory milestone payment through potential BLA approval. In addition, PFP will reimburse Atara for expected tab-cel global development costs through BLA approval and will purchase existing and future tab-cel inventory through the BLA transfer date. Substantially all tab-cel manufacturing, regulatory, and development activities are targeted to transition from Atara to PFP at the time of the BLA approval transfer. We remain confident that tab-cel represents a significant business opportunity with several hundred EBV-positive PTLD addressable patients in the U.S. alone, who could benefit from this potentially life-saving therapy with a favorable safety profile....

With significant pricing potential based on its value for patients and healthcare system in such an ultra-rare disease, we believe that tab-cel has the potential to deliver U.S. peak sales of over $500 million per year, following potential label expansion from the multi-cohort study. With future sales milestone and significant double-digit royalties through our agreement with Pierre Fabre, we believe U.S. tab-cel commercialization will progressively grow future revenues for Atara over the term of the agreement. As we continue to evolve as an organization focused on developing innovative allogeneic cell therapies for cancer and autoimmune disease, we are undertaking a strategic restructuring to reduce our current workforce by approximately 30%.

The benefits of the expanded tab-cel partnership, coupled with the restructuring, are anticipated to reduce our planned cash expenditures from 2023 levels by approximately 40% or $100 million by the end of 2025. I would like to extend my sincere gratitude to all Atara staff, both those continuing to the next phase of Atara and those departing, for their unwavering commitment to the patients' lives we seek to transform, and their significant contributions in advancing truly innovative medicine for patients in need. Thank you for what you have done to get us where we are today. We believe these actions, when combined with cash of approximately $102 million on September 30, 2023, and certain anticipated payments from the extended tab-cel commercial partnership, will be sufficient to fund Atara planned operations into Q3 2025.

This will position Atara well to deliver multiple anticipated clinical milestones, including the early November EMBOLD data readouts, as well as key data readouts for the ATA3219 program in lymphoma, and potentially in autoimmune disease. On the regulatory front, we are encouraged from the recent positive FDA assessment of comparability, that supports pooling the pivotal clinical data from different process versions of tab-cel in a BLA submission expected in Q2 2024. We now have a clear plan for the clinical data package, and the expected BLA submission timing aligns with our filing strategy to include the latest pivotal ALLELE study data for inclusion in, and to obviously support both the pre-BLA meeting and anticipated BLA filing package. We are also excited to disclose initial data from our phase II multi-cohort study, various EBV-positive cancers, in December at ESMO IO.

Now on to ATA188, a potentially transformative therapy for people living with progressive multiple sclerosis. The primary analysis readout for the phase II double-blind, placebo-controlled EMBOLD study is on track for early November, which will include the primary outcome measure of confirmed disability improvement by EDSS, and relevant imaging and fluid biomarkers for more than 90 patients. This includes a number of patients that enrolled earlier in the study, and have been evaluated beyond the primary endpoint of 12 months at 15, 18, 21, and 24 months. The EDSS data from these later time points will be analyzed as part of the primary analysis, and may give a sense of ATA188 impact on EDSS stability and progression, which usually requires longer follow-up time to assess that disability improvement.

Our goal is to disclose sufficient study data to allow investors to evaluate potential value of ATA188 in non-active progressive MS. As a reminder, significant unmet need remains in progressive MS, especially non-active progressive MS, which represents the vast majority of the progressive MS population, and is the focus of the EMBOLD study. There are no approved therapies right now that have demonstrated disability improvement for non-active progressive MS. The currently approved therapies only demonstrate modest slowing of disability progression, with an approximately 6% difference versus placebo, that is primarily driven by patients with active disease. As a result, anything better than the ranging from more slowing of progression, to stabilization of disability, to transform disability improvement, to significant improvement, is potentially transformative, and sets up the other and robust clinical development opportunities, including potential pivotal phase III trials.

Finally, we are progressing our potential best-in-class allogeneic CAR-T assets, which could play a foundational role in our portfolio moving forward. We will focus resources in the near term on clinical development of ATA3219, following recent IND clearance, and on pre-clinical activities for ATA3431, or CD19/CD20-targeted CAR-T. While these are the programs that have the highest potential for value creation over the next two years, we will also continue to strategically invest in other attractive targets and platform enhancements. With respect to ATA3219, or allogeneic CAR-T for B-cell malignancies expressing CD19, we are progressing to activate study centers and start enrolling patients in the coming months in the phase 1 study in relapse or refractory B-cell NHL. We expect preliminary clinical data in the second half of 2024.

We are particularly excited to bring this allogeneic CD19 CAR-T asset to the clinic as it's been optimized to offer a potential best-in-class product profile, featuring off-the-shelf availability and clinically validated technologies, like the 1XX signaling domain associated with favorable response rate and durability, enrichment for less differentiated T cell memory phenotype for improved clinical responses, and retention of the endogenous T cell receptor, which may be a crucial survival signal for T cells. We are also pleased that ATA3431, an allogeneic bispecific CAR directed against CD19 and CD20, built on the EBV T-cell platform with a 1XX co-stimulatory domain, is moving into IND-enabling studies with a competitive profile. Compared to an autologous CD19/CD20 CAR-T benchmark, pre-clinical data demonstrating potent anti-tumor activity, long-term persistence, and superior tumor growth inhibition. This has been accepted for poster presentation at the upcoming ASH meeting in December.

Beyond oncology, there has been high interest recently in the potential of CAR T cell therapies for autoimmune disease, with remarkable results from early data in patients living with severe thyroid disease, such as lupus. Atara, we have believed for a while in the important role cell therapy can play in addressing autoimmune conditions. With ATA188, Atara is pioneering the use of an allogeneic T-cell immunotherapy in a neurological autoimmune condition. Building on this experience, we are actively considering option best suited for Atara allogeneic CAR T EBV therapies in autoimmune disease. Our EBV T-cells have compelling potential benefits like persistence and favorable safety, with no requirement for complex genetic editing. Specifically, they possess a memory phenotype that can expand and traffic to site of disease, which provide a versatile platform with off-the-shelf accessibility, that can address several potential shortcomings of other approaches.

To that end, we are actively progressing efforts toward a potential IND to evaluate ATA3219 in autoimmune disease, in parallel with NHL development. More to come on that soon. To close, we're excited about the near-term opportunities for Atara to demonstrate the potential of our pipeline. We are coming up to one of the most exciting milestone in Atara's history, with the primary analysis result of the EMBOLD study very soon. We are now well-capitalized, with planned cash runway into Q3 2025, to pursue a potential best-in-class portfolio of CAR T assets in areas of great unmet need, where we believe we can make the biggest difference. I will now turn the call over to the operator for the Q&A part of the call. Operator?

Operator

Thank you. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star two if you would like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. Our first question is from Salim Syed with Mizuho. Please proceed.

Salim Syed
Managing Director of Equity Research, Head of Biotechnology Research, and Senior Biotechnology Analyst, Mizuho Securities

Great. Good morning, guys. Congrats on the deal. Just a couple from me, if I can. One, on the process, Pascal, you mentioned that there were large pharma players involved here. Just curious, the rationale to go with Pierre Fabre, was it just more operational that you wanted just one partner globally? Was that just really important to you, or was it also financially driven? Did Pierre Fabre actually, you know, offer greater economics? And then second, just on the $500 million number that you put out for US peak sales, just curious if you could break that down for us, even ballpark-wise. How much of that is for the first indication EBV for PTLD?

Just what portion of the $640 million in milestones could you get just on the first indication alone, potentially? Even ballpark would be helpful. Thank you.

Pascal Touchon
President and CEO, Atara Biotherapeutics

Thank you, Salim, for your question. So the first one, competitive process, a mix of big pharma, mid pharma, and biotech. The decision was based on three key aspects. One, of course, is financial, and financial, not only about an upfront level, but very importantly, the way for us to be able to have the partner progressively taking over activities, but immediately taking over the cost of the activities for that sale. That was very important for us, because that was the way for us to really move into focusing on cash into the development on MS and in allogeneic CAR-Ts. So that was one aspect on financial. The other one was the level of commitment that this particular partner is demonstrating through the process, the diligence. And with Pierre Fabre, we have experience with them.

We know how committed they are to the success of their value in Europe. And then thirdly, it's true that, having only one partner is much easier to manage for us as, as a, as a biotech company. It was not the most important decision point, but it was really an important aspect to say, if the financial are exciting, because they cover exactly what we need in terms of taking over the cost and adding cash to the balance sheet. On top of that, having someone who is truly committed to succeed in having that sale of their flagship product in the US, they're going to put 100% and even more of effort behind it. And then, of course, the fact that having only one partner makes it easier to manage in general. Now, on to your second question.

The $500 million peak sales, as we said, is linked with different type of indications. So first indication in second line, PTLD, and additional indications coming from the multi-cohort study, that is coming, by the way, we've announced that there will be some first preliminary data presented at ESMO IO in December. So that's the way the $500 million peak sales progressively build up there, in the US, in the way we see the potential of that product commercially. Now, on the milestone, that sales milestone, are not related to a specific indication, just sales milestone. And we're not going to disclose exactly what the detail of this sales milestone, but we think that they are reasonable in the approach that we're taking, in terms of what is the potential of the product and how that potential can be reached.

Does it answer your question?

Salim Syed
Managing Director of Equity Research, Head of Biotechnology Research, and Senior Biotechnology Analyst, Mizuho Securities

Got it. Sort of. I'm happy to rephrase it, if that, if that's okay. But if you can't answer, I understand that as well.

Pascal Touchon
President and CEO, Atara Biotherapeutics

Hmm.

Salim Syed
Managing Director of Equity Research, Head of Biotechnology Research, and Senior Biotechnology Analyst, Mizuho Securities

I guess-

Pascal Touchon
President and CEO, Atara Biotherapeutics

We cannot disclose more.

Salim Syed
Managing Director of Equity Research, Head of Biotechnology Research, and Senior Biotechnology Analyst, Mizuho Securities

Okay.

Pascal Touchon
President and CEO, Atara Biotherapeutics

On the milestone. That's my point.

Salim Syed
Managing Director of Equity Research, Head of Biotechnology Research, and Senior Biotechnology Analyst, Mizuho Securities

Okay, I guess for the-

Pascal Touchon
President and CEO, Atara Biotherapeutics

Okay.

Salim Syed
Managing Director of Equity Research, Head of Biotechnology Research, and Senior Biotechnology Analyst, Mizuho Securities

Just for the $500 million, though, how much of that is weighted on the first indication alone? I guess is the question. On the-

Pascal Touchon
President and CEO, Atara Biotherapeutics

Yeah, so-

Salim Syed
Managing Director of Equity Research, Head of Biotechnology Research, and Senior Biotechnology Analyst, Mizuho Securities

For PTLD, approximately.

Pascal Touchon
President and CEO, Atara Biotherapeutics

Yeah. I'll say it, it's a, it's a significant part, because we always say it's several hundred patients in the first indication. We also say that we have, we believe, a significant pricing potential, based not only on the experience in Europe, where the price in Europe today, the listed price, is about €640,000, or the equivalent of $640,000. Usually, the difference between the US and Europe is about 30%-40% for this type of product. That gives you an idea. We don't know what Fabre will take as a price, but we've been discussing that with them, and we think they will try, like they are doing in Europe, to optimize the pricing potential, in line with the value that the product is giving to patients and healthcare system.

But also, we've had a lot of discussion, as Atara, with payers in the U.S., and we know exactly what's the price sensitivity, and what the price that will be considered as acceptable to offer significant coverage of the patients. So we're confident about the number of patients, we're confident about the price, and we're seeing, by itself, this is going to create to reach a significant part of that $500 million.

Salim Syed
Managing Director of Equity Research, Head of Biotechnology Research, and Senior Biotechnology Analyst, Mizuho Securities

Got it. All right. Thank you so much, Pascal. Congrats again.

Pascal Touchon
President and CEO, Atara Biotherapeutics

Thank you.

Operator

Our next question is from John Newman, with Canaccord Genuity. Please proceed.

John Newman
Managing Director and Senior Biotechnology Equity Research Analyst, Canaccord Genuity

Hi there, thanks for taking my question, and congrats on a nice deal here. So my question is regarding the tab-cel regulatory process. I'm just curious, Pascal, if you could just give us an update on the new clinical data or the additional clinical data that will be included when you file the application in 2024.

Pascal Touchon
President and CEO, Atara Biotherapeutics

Yes, certainly. So when we reached the alignment and agreement on comparability, that was when we could then organize a new data cut for the ALLELE study, the pivotal study. So that has been done in October, and now we're going to have all the typical time needed to get the data clean, to get the IRO, the independent review of the scans, and so on. And that will give us a new set of data compared with the one we presented in December 2020 at ASH on 43 patients. So that new set of data will then be, in the typical way, put together, presented to the agency, pre-BLA meeting, and then move on to the BLA submission. So the time needed is really the time to clean up the data.

We're very confident in this data, and we've many reasons to be very confident in this data. But one that you all know is about the fact that whatever the type of study, whatever the process versions we've used in the past, and we've treated more than 400 patients with tab-cel, across different disease, and more than 260 patients in PTLD, in repeat PTLD. So we have a very significant data package and experience. But whatever the study, whatever the process versions, we always found similar results from an efficacy and safety point of view. So very similarly, efficacy with and over, in terms of overall response rate, long-term efficacy with good persistence of the response, and then, of course, favorable safety.

That's why we feel extremely confident about this new data that will be put together and discussed with the agency. Does it answer your question?

John Newman
Managing Director and Senior Biotechnology Equity Research Analyst, Canaccord Genuity

It does. I just had one additional question on ATA188. Just curious, obviously, the data will be coming here shortly, but, wondered if you could discuss your thoughts on, the commercial plans for that product, if you're considering a partnership, if you're planning on marketing the product on your own, if perhaps partnership is being considered for only Europe. Just curious there. Thanks.

Pascal Touchon
President and CEO, Atara Biotherapeutics

Yep. No, thank you for your question. So, it depends on the next step, but if indeed we are to the point where the next step is to move to phase III, as we disclosed in the past, we have already discussed with the FDA about the type of phase III that they would like to see when we obtain our 2 fast track designation. And that's where the agency mentioned two phase III, one in non-active PPMS, one in non-active SPMS. And the reason they asked for two instead of just one, is mainly because the medical need is slightly different in the U.S., in these two potential indications. Because in non-active SPMS, which is, by the way, the vast majority of the patient with SPMS, with secondary progressive MS. In that particular population, there is no approved therapy in the U.S.

Whereas in non-active PPMS, there is officially one approved therapy, recently approved therapy, which is Ocrevus there. So that's why there is a slight medical need from a fast track and potential BTD as a type of status later on. So we'll discuss with the agency... These two phase III studies will be also put together with a phase II program to go in earlier stage of MS, and maybe some other autoimmune indications. All that will be a very significant clinical development program, that we believe will benefit from having a strategic partner that could bring financial and operational capabilities, to be able to run all of these studies in parallel.

So at this stage, the idea will be to consider partnership, but not a pure licensing out, more of a strategic co-development, maybe with some options for other activities, especially in the U.S. And that's really the aim, being to activate rapidly this next stage of the development, at the same time, to retain significant value for within Atara. And we've discussed in the past that the type of partnership with profits split, particularly in the U.S., which is about 75%-80% of the world market for MS, could make sense for the company and our shareholders. So, too early to say to what type of partnership and how we will implement that, but certainly something that we have been actively considering and discussing with a large number of big pharma company over the last couple of years.

Jonathan Miller
Managing Director of Biotech and Pharma Equity Research, Evercore ISI

Okay, great. Thank you for taking my questions.

Operator

Our next question is from Phil Nadeau with Cowen and Company. Please proceed.

Phil Nadeau
Managing Director and Senior Biotechnology Research Analyst, Cowen and Company

Good morning, ladies. Congratulations on the expanded partnership. Couple questions from us. First, in terms of the royalty that you're gonna get from Tier 5, can you give us any more information on the magnitude of that royalty? Is it a graded royalty in any sense of the royalty range? Then second, a follow-up on the EMBOLD trial. Could you talk us through your current thought process as you, as to how you would frame the go, no-go decision post the EMBOLD data? What do you need to see in EMBOLD to advance 188 into those two phase III trials? Thanks.

Pascal Touchon
President and CEO, Atara Biotherapeutics

Thank you for your question. So the first one, unfortunately, we cannot say more than significant double-digit tiered royalties. And, it's an agreement with our partner, Pierre Fabre, that is not willing for us to disclose the royalty level. So we cannot say more than significant double-digit tiered royalties, and let's say that we are very pleased with that deal. Now, on your second question, the way we see the different scenarios, as we explained in the past, is as follows: We believe that if we have a significant statistical result on top of an impactful clinical result, in terms of showing a percentage of CDI or confirmed disability improvers, in active versus placebo, in that case, we would be with a significant P, will be considering moving into phase III .

But it could be also the case, if it is not a significant P, but very strong trend, supported by a number of additional data from other clinical measures, from imaging biomarkers such as MTR, magnetization transfer ratio, or some additional bio-fluid biomarkers. So having a strong trend supported by these type of biomarkers and additional clinical data, could also make the case for moving into phase III . So that's the type of scenario where we'll move to phase III. The scenario where we will not move to phase III, in this specific indication of non-active progressive MS, will be a scenario where we have evidence of effect, but that we either need either to continue to study till it ends, it's a two-year study, or to be able to have data, for example, on stability on a larger number of patients.

We have already data on stability of the disability and the ability to limit progression of disability, but we might want to have more patients, and to have all the patients reaching the two-year time point. We might also have some particular signals, strong signal in subgroups of patients based on the data. So all that could lead to the need to continue some additional work through EMBOLD, expansion of EMBOLD, or just a continuation of EMBOLD, or some other studies that we could do, to be able then to be in the stage where we could move to phase III.

So that's the best way probably to answer your question right now is, if it is statistical significance or very strong trend backed by biomarkers and other data, there is a clear path to moving to phase III, following end of phase II meeting with the agency and scientific advice in Europe. If it is something that shows evidence of effect, which by the way, will be a big first and truly transformational already, because nobody has ever shown, in such a large study, that there is evidence of effect versus placebo, that could be of a significant signal to be able to explore further or continue the study till its end. So that particular scenario will require some additional work, but we are well positioned to do that work.

Phil Nadeau
Managing Director and Senior Biotechnology Research Analyst, Cowen and Company

That's very helpful. Congratulations again, and thanks for taking our questions.

Pascal Touchon
President and CEO, Atara Biotherapeutics

Thank you.

Operator

Our next question is from Jonathan Miller with Evercore ISI. Please proceed.

Jonathan Miller
Managing Director of Biotech and Pharma Equity Research, Evercore ISI

Hey, guys. Congrats so much on the tab-cel deal. We're really looking forward to MS data coming out, obviously. I would look to get a little bit deeper into the, I guess, the pipeline and the runway from here. So you mentioned there are certain anticipated payments included in the cash runway to 2025 there. Is the BLA approval included in that runway, for instance? What are the certain anticipated payments that you're counting explicitly, and what are you not counting? And secondly, how much of the CAR T program, the oncology program trial initiations, are counted in the runway? And how much of those trials are covered versus not covered with your current expectations?

Pascal Touchon
President and CEO, Atara Biotherapeutics

No, thank you for your question, John. So in terms of the expected payment from the deal, this is really around the regulatory milestone. It's not only a milestone at approval, it's full approval. We have a number of steps that, if successfully achieved, will be linked with payments. So that's why we say $100 million regulatory milestone, full BLA approval. That includes the BLA approval, by the way, but it's not the only milestone. There are a number of milestone before the BLA approval that will, could lead to payment from Pierre Fabre, based on the progress we're making on a regulatory front. So that's, that's to answer your first question.

On your second question, what we are putting together in this cash runway expectation is the start, as we're doing right now, of for study in lymphoma with ATA3219, is also starting the study in autoimmune disease, as we believe that there is a great potential for that product in autoimmune diseases like lupus, and we're working on that right now. And it's also the IND-enabling studies for 3431, which is a very exciting, very competitive CD19, CD20 CAR T, allogeneic CAR T. Then, of course, we have involved, that is continuing, because even though we're going to present very soon, the 12 months readouts, the study, as you know, is continuing up to 2 years.

So we have a number of patients that have reached already two years, but many that have not yet reached two years, so we'll be able to continue that till next year, of course. So all that is part of the expenses, knowing that on the Tab-cel form, the expenses are mostly covered by Pierre Fabre. Does it answer your question?

Jonathan Miller
Managing Director of Biotech and Pharma Equity Research, Evercore ISI

Yeah, that's very helpful. Thank you.

Operator

Our next question is from Salveen Richter with Goldman Sachs. Please proceed.

Salveen Richter
Biotechnology Equity Research Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Thanks so much for taking our questions. This is Tommy on for Salveen, and congrats on the deal. So with the closing in December and the workforce reduction, can you kind of walk us through what the financial impact will be into year-end, if any? And on the MS release, how much detail do you expect to provide here? Will it be more so just P values, or could we actually see the trends and more quantitative measures, too? Thank you so much.

Pascal Touchon
President and CEO, Atara Biotherapeutics

Eric, do you want to take the first question? I'll take the second one.

Eric Hyllengren
EVP, COO, and CFO, Atara Biotherapeutics

Yeah, absolutely. So Tommy, you know, the way we're looking at it, obviously there's going to be... You know, we signed the deal, but then there's going to be the customary HSR review, which we don't expect to be a problem, so bigger kind of a December effective date there. So, you know, benefits of the upfront payment, inventory purchases, it's gonna be right around, you know, end of December, early January, depending on that and the payment terms. And then, yes, the 30% reduction in force, obviously there, there's the lower headcount benefit, but then that's offset by some severance, of course, for those folks.

So I would expect, you know, the main benefits to begin in 2024 as a step down, and then another step down in 2025, as we fully transition regulatory development and manufacturing activities over to Pierre Fabre.

Pascal Touchon
President and CEO, Atara Biotherapeutics

Onto your second question. So what we say so far, that we plan to disclose sufficient data for investors to be able to have a better understanding of the value created by that study and for that particular asset. So it's difficult to say exactly we disclose, but it depends on the data. But you can expect more than just the primary analysis of the 12 months confirmed disability improvement, active versus placebo. And as you know, there will be data on beyond 12 months, because we have a number of patients that will have been evaluated at 15, 18, 21, 24 months. So on not only confirmed disability improvement, but also CDP, confirmed disability progression, to see what's happening on the stability front. And then there will be imaging biomarkers for gamma HI and MTR in particular.

The biomarker we presented from our phase I a couple of years ago, with X-rays that show that sign of remyelination within the chronic lesion in the brain of the patient that we're improving on the treatment. So you can expect that type of data as well. And then, of course, a number of other type of clinical and potential biomarkers. So ideally, we'd like to give enough information for investors to be able to have an understanding of what's the value created by the study so far, and for this particular product, and of course, to try to also disclose what we see as the next step for the program. Does it answer your question?

Salveen Richter
Biotechnology Equity Research Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Thanks so much.

Pascal Touchon
President and CEO, Atara Biotherapeutics

Thank you.

Operator

That concludes our question and answer session for today. Thank you for joining Atara Biotherapeutics' third quarter 2023 financial results conference call. You may now disconnect.

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