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Earnings Call: Q2 2021

Dec 8, 2020

Speaker 1

Afternoon, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to AeroVironment's 2nd Quarter Fiscal Year 2021 Earnings Call. This is Stephen Gitlin, Chief Marketing Officer and Vice President of Investor Relations for AeroVironment. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded for replay purposes. Before we begin, please note that on this call, certain information presented contains forward looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Forward looking statements include, without limitation, any statement that may predict, forecast, indicate or imply future results, performance or achievements and may contain words such as believe, anticipate, expect, estimate, intend, project, plan or words or phrases with similar meaning.

Forward looking statements are based on current expectations, forecasts and assumptions that involve risks and uncertainties, including, but not limited to, economic, competitive, governmental and technological factors outside of our control that may cause our business strategy or actual results to differ materially from the forward looking statements. For further information on these risks, we encourage you to review the risk factors discussed in AeroVironment's periodic reports on Form 10 ks and Form 10 Q filed with the SEC and the Form 8 ks filed today with the SEC, along with the associated earnings release and the Safe Harbor statement contained therein. This afternoon, we also filed a slide presentation with our earnings release and posted the presentation on our website at avinc.com in the Events and Presentations section. The content of this conference call contains time sensitive information that is accurate only as of today, December 8, 2020. The company undertakes no obligation to make any revision to any forward looking statements contained in our remarks today or to update them to reflect the events or circumstances occurring after this conference call.

Joining me today from AeroVironment are President and Chief Executive Officer, Mr. Wahid Nawabi and Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Mr. Kevin McDonnell. We will now begin with remarks from Wahid Nawabi. Wahid?

Speaker 2

Thank you, Steve. Welcome to our Q2 fiscal year 2021 earnings conference call. Before we discuss our business achievements in the Q2, I would like to address our acquisition of the German robotics company, Telerab, which we announced a few moments ago and is summarized on Slide number 3 of our earnings presentation. TelerOp is a leader in advanced ground robotic systems with a strong global customer base and a best in class portfolio of unmanned ground vehicles or UGVs serving defense, first response, homeland security and other markets. This is an outstanding growing business in its own right that is poised for further success in the United States and globally and we're excited for them to join our team to support our customers and expand our global footprint.

At AirVironment, our goal is to drive superior shareholder value by developing and maintaining leadership positions in intelligent multi domain robotic systems for defense, civil and commercial customers. Our broad portfolio includes unmanned aircraft and tactical missile systems that are aerial robots with increasing levels of intelligence and autonomy that derive from our ongoing investments. Teleroth's outstanding team, best in class product portfolio, long track record of success and extensive customer base represent an ideal complementary set of capabilities that deliver the ground element of our multi domain portfolio. Teleroc was founded more than 25 years ago and its management team has extensive robotics experience that dates back to the 1970s. The TelerOp team has built an impressive list of customers around the world by applying their innovative robotics technologies to multiple growing applications and end markets.

With TelerOp as part of AeroVironment, we will offer a broader set of solutions and capabilities to our customers. Once the transaction closes, we plan to integrate our technology roadmaps to develop aerial and ground system solutions that deliver more capability and more complex operating environments to customers in defense and other applications. With this powerful multi domain solution offering, we will introduce AeroVironment to Telerav's existing customer base, which spans 45 nations and introduce Telerav's unique portfolio to our environments customers in the U. S. And 50 nations.

To this point in November, we submitted a joint proposal with Telerab to the U. S. Air Force for a large new multiyear explosive ordnance disposal robotics program where AeroVironment will be the prime contractor. The Air Force has not disclosed the potential value of this program, but it is significant. We will also pursue additional significant domestic UGV opportunities with the United States Navy, Marine Corps, Air National Guard and various police forces.

Specific international opportunities include UGVs for airport security and a Middle Eastern Allied Nation and multiple UAS programs with the German Federal Ministry of Defense, which a local presence would support. As you can see, the opportunities between our two teams are numerous and have the potential to produce significant value for AeroVironment shareholders in the near and long term. Upon German government clearance of the transaction, which we expect by spring 2021, TelerOp will operate as a wholly owned subsidiary of AeroVironment. We plan to retain the entire TelerOp team. We expect this acquisition to be GAAP EPS accretive in 2 years and non GAAP EPS accretive in fiscal year 2022, excluding intangible amortization and integration costs.

Under the terms of the agreement, we are investing approximately $45,400,000 in cash plus a 3 year milestone based earn out of up to $7,300,000 We will also pay off $9,400,000 in debt from TelerOp at closing. Our acquisition of TelerOp supports our objectives of deploying our strong balance sheet to grow our business, expanding the value proposition of our offerings and creating long term shareholder value. I look forward to sharing more with you as we proceed toward closing. Now I will summarize our 2nd quarter results. On today's call, I will emphasize 3 key messages included on Slide number 4 of our earnings presentation.

First, our team continues to deliver strong results during the unprecedented and challenging COVID-nineteen pandemic keeping us on track to achieve our fiscal year 2021 objectives. 2nd, we achieved significant milestones during the quarter and our key growth initiatives within tactical UAS, tactical missile systems and HAPS. And 3rd, we are successfully executing our long term growth strategy supported by our strong balance sheet while delivering significant value to our shareholders. Now let's review our financial performance in the quarter, which is outlined on Slide number 5 of our earnings presentation. We delivered 2nd quarter revenue of $92,700,000 an increase of 11% year over year and consistent with our expectations.

Earnings per diluted share of $0.09 declined from $0.31 in the prior year, primarily due to an accounting impairment related to our portion of a write down in HAPS Mobiles Inc. Equity investment in Loon LLC. Kevin will provide more information on this item in his prepared comments. Non GAAP earnings per diluted share for the 2nd quarter was $0.48 an increase of $0.14 or 41% year over year. Now I will review our business achievements in the 2nd quarter.

First, our small unmanned aircraft systems product line represented 63% of total revenue in the 2nd quarter, and we remain the leader in the global market for small UAS. We continue to partner with industry leaders to deliver more valuable solutions to our customers. In October, we announced the contract with Viasat to develop an on demand Type 1 encrypted communications network delivered by small UAS for the U. S. Army.

This is another example of our applied innovation creating greater value for our customers and shareholders. Next, our tactical missile systems product line represented about 20% of second quarter revenue. We continue to execute against the large Army LMAMS contract with our Switchblade 300 during the quarter. In recent years, DoD procurement budgets have provided strong funding for Army LMANCE procurement. This funding has driven programmatic adoption of Switchblade 300 via the U.

S. Army. In its fiscal year 2021 procurement request, the U. S. Department of Defense budget proposed about $85,000,000 of funding to support the Army LMANF program.

Senate and House of Representatives Appropriations Committees recently proposed reducing or eliminating LMAN's funding in government fiscal year 2021, partly because significant funding remains from prior budgets for LMANAM's procurement. We expect the entire $85,000,000 to be removed by the time the budget is enacted into law, but we'll not know for certain until then. It is important to note that a new multiyear competitive LMANZ program is planned to begin after fiscal year 2021. We believe we are well positioned to compete for and secure that award. In October, we unveiled our Switchblade family of loitering missile systems, including our new Switchblade 600, which is the larger variant we have previously discussed.

Switchblade 600 weighs 50 pounds, carries a much larger warhead than Switchblade 300, is capable of more than 40 minutes of endurance and delivers precision effects against armored vehicles and other hardened targets over greater distance, all while maintaining its portability and patented wave off and recommit capabilities. As part of the Switchblade 600 system, we also introduced a new tablet touch control that improves the user experience and makes training even faster and easier. With Switchblade 600, we are targeting a tactical missile market segment valued at more than $1,000,000,000 annually based on current U. S. DoD procurement of Hellfire, Javelin and Pro Missiles.

Developed in part with customer funding, we believe that Switchblade 600 is well positioned for the U. S. Marine Corps organic Precision Fires Mounted or OPFM program. Supporting our competition for OPFM, we received a $5,000,000 award late last fiscal year and another $1,000,000 award in the 2nd quarter. Importantly, these funds are separate and in addition to customer funding we have received for Switchblade 600 development.

We are now one of 4 suppliers who will compete as soon as this February for a Down Select award. That award would fund continued development that could lead to low rate production and then volume procurement over a multiyear period. Moving now to HAPS, which represented 12% of second quarter revenue, we achieved a significant project milestone in September when the SunGlider Solar HAPS UAS soared in the stratosphere for hours during a 20 hour mission at Spaceport America in New Mexico. During this successful test flight, we also demonstrated broadband connectivity via an LTE payload carried onboard the Sunglider. In fact, we conducted video calls from New Mexico that connected us to Tokyo, Silicon Valley and Washington DC using a standard Android smartphone.

The quality of the video call was as good if not better than most video meetings I have participated in from my office. This milestone offers a glimpse into the exciting possibilities HAPS represents for connecting the billions of people around the world who lack basic broadband access. We remain confident that this partnership would deliver strong returns for our shareholders. We expect the HAPS program to transition to a testing and certification phase toward the end of our current fiscal year 2021. We expect this testing and certification phase to continue for multiple years until we transition to production and commercial business launch.

Now I will turn to the impact of the COVID-nineteen pandemic on our business. We continue to experience some delays in customer contracting decisions as our domestic and international customers operate in unprecedented remote work situations. We're also experiencing some delays in limited areas of our supply chain resulting from the impact of the pandemic. However, our team's accomplishments in the important milestones they achieved during the quarter are particularly noteworthy given the challenges of the COVID-nineteen pandemic. The majority of our team members continue to work remotely and I am incredibly proud of the way they have continued to support each other and our customers.

All of us at AeroVironment are united in our commitment to delivering strong operating and financial results while maintaining a safe work environment. This was a solid quarter of achievements. We're very excited about our acquisition of Telerab and the progress toward our multi domain intelligent robotic portfolio it will drive. And as you can see, we're not standing still. We continue to invest in the future defining technologies that will derive higher levels of autonomy and capability for our customers and greater returns for our shareholders.

Now, I will turn the call over to Kevin McDonald for a summary of second quarter financials. Kevin?

Speaker 3

Thank you, Wahid. Today, I'll be reviewing the highlights of our Q2 and year to date financial performance. I'll be referring to both our press release and earnings presentation available on our website. Similar to last quarter, I will only be addressing the key financial metrics in my remarks and leaving some of the details to the press release and earnings presentation. Revenue for the Q2 of fiscal 2021 was 92,700,000 dollars an increase of 11% from the Q2 of fiscal 2020 revenue of $83,300,000 The breakdown of revenue by product area is contained on Slide 6 of the quarterly earnings presentation.

During the quarter, we showed strong performance in our TMS product line, which was up 139% from the same period last year. This was partially offset by lower half's mobile service revenue and lower small UIS product revenue. Revenue for the first half of fiscal twenty twenty one was $180,100,000 an increase of 6% from the first half of fiscal twenty twenty revenue of $170,200,000 Again, the increase in revenue was largely due to an increase in TMS revenue, partially offset by reduced small UAS product revenue. Turning to gross margin. Slide 7 of the quarterly earnings presentation shows our product service mix and overall Gross margin for the 2nd quarter was $40,900,000 or 44 percent of revenue compared to $35,200,000 or 42 percent of revenue for the Q2 last fiscal year.

Gross margin for the first half of fiscal twenty twenty one was $76,300,000 or 42 percent of revenue, compared to $76,400,000 or 45 percent of revenue for the first half of fiscal twenty twenty. As we indicated last quarter, we do expect second half margins to be lower than the first half margins due to a less favorable product mix. Now I will turn to operating expense. SG and A expense for the 2nd quarter was $15,000,000 or 16 percent of revenue compared to SG and A expense of $16,300,000 or 20 percent of revenue for the Q2 of FY 2020. SG and A expense for the first half of fiscal twenty twenty one was $27,000,000 or 15% of revenue compared to $29,900,000 or 18% of revenue for the first half of fiscal twenty twenty.

The lower spend in current quarter and year to date SG and A is in large part related to the reduction in travel and trade show expenses resulting from COVID related restrictions. R and D expense for the Q2 was $12,000,000 or 13 percent of revenue compared to R and D expense of $10,900,000 or 13% of revenue for the Q2 FY 2020. R and D expense for the first half of fiscal twenty twenty one was $23,100,000 or 13% of revenue compared to $19,600,000 or 11% of revenue for the first half of fiscal twenty twenty. We continue to make significant R and D investments. These investments include enhancements to current products, new variants within our product lines and product additions.

We believe these investments will enable our continued leadership in the small UAS space and drive growth in both small UAS and TMS product lines in the near future and longer term. Before I talk about the bottom line, I'd like to discuss the impact of the HAPS mobile JV on our income statement. As a reminder, we own approximately 7% of the HAPS mobile joint venture. In the Q2 of fiscal 2021, we recorded a loss of $9,500,000 related to our investment in the HAPS Mobile JV. This includes an $8,400,000 impairment loss, which represents our proportionate share of the HAPS mobile write down of its investment in Alphabet Loon's subsidiary.

In the first half, we recognized a total of $10,800,000 a total of $10,800,000 loss on our income statement related to our HAPS mobile investment compared to a loss of $2,200,000 for the first half of fiscal 2020. Finally, I should note that our accumulated losses in the JV have resulted in the carrying amount of our investment on the balance sheet to be 0 as at the end of the Q2. And therefore, we will not recognize any further losses related to our investment to date in the HAPS mobile JV in future periods. Looking at the bottom line. Net income attributable to AeroEnvironments for the Q2 of fiscal 2021 was $2,100,000 or $0.09 per diluted share compared to $7,500,000 or $0.31 per diluted share for the Q2 of fiscal 2020.

The $5,400,000 reduction in net income was largely a result of our proportionate portion of the HAPS mobile impairment of its investment in Loon of $8,400,000 higher tax provision of $1,400,000 increased R and D investments of $1,100,000 and reduced interest income of $1,200,000 These reductions were partially offset by higher gross margins of $5,700,000 and lower SG and A spending of $1,300,000 For the first half of fiscal twenty twenty one, net income attributable to AeroVironment was 12 point $2,000,000 or $0.50 per diluted share compared to $24,600,000 or $1.02 per diluted share for the first half of fiscal twenty twenty. The $12,400,000 reduction in net income is again primarily due to the $8,400,000 loss from our portion of the HAPS mobile impairment of its investment in Loon, together with higher R and D spending of $3,500,000 and lower interest income of $2,300,000 partially offset by lower SG and A spending of $2,900,000 In terms of adjusted EPS, Slide 12 shows the reconciliation of GAAP and adjusted or non GAAP diluted earnings per share. Non GAAP diluted earnings per share for the Q2 of fiscal 2021 was $0.48 per diluted share and excludes $0.35 per diluted share for our portion of the HAPS mobile impairment of its investment in Loon and $0.02 per diluted share of intangible amortization expense associated with our Pulse Aerospace acquisition and an additional $0.02 per diluted share for acquisition related expenses.

Non GAAP diluted earnings per share for the Q2 of fiscal 2020 was $0.34 per diluted share and excludes $0.03 per diluted share of deal integration costs and intangible amortization expenses associated with our Pulse Aerospace acquisition. For the first half of fiscal twenty twenty one, non GAAP diluted earnings per share was $0.91 per diluted share and excludes the $0.35 related to our portion of the HAPS mobile impairment of its investment in Loon as well as $0.06 per diluted share of acquisition related and amortization expenses. Non GAAP diluted earnings per share for the first half of fiscal twenty twenty was $1.08 per diluted share and excludes $0.06 per diluted share related to deal integration costs and intangible amortization expense associated with our acquisition of Pulse Aerospace. Turning to the balance sheet. We continue to maintain a strong cash position.

Cash, cash equivalents and investments at the end of the Q2 of fiscal 2021 totaled $368,200,000 an increase of $50,500,000 from the end of fiscal 2020. Total cash flow from operating activities during the first half of the year was $58,600,000 of which $25,300,000 was a result of working capital improvements and the remainder from operating activities. The working capital improvement came primarily from lower accounts receivables and unbillables, partially offset by lower accounts payable, accrued liabilities and higher inventories. In terms of capital expenditures, we spent $6,100,000 during the first half of fiscal twenty twenty one. Next, I'd like to highlight some of our backlog metrics.

Our funded backlog at the end of Q2 was $130,600,000 a decrease of $16,100,000 from the Q2 of fiscal 2020 and a decrease of $77,500,000 from the Q4 of fiscal 2020 backlog of $208,100,000 The backlog decline is in part due to delays in orders as a result of the COVID impacts. In terms of fiscal 2021 visibility, which is highlighted on Slide 8 of the earnings presentation, as of today, we have year to date revenue in fiscal 2021 of 180,000,000 dollars 2nd quarter ending backlog that we anticipate to execute in fiscal 2021 of 120,000,000 q3 quarter to date bookings that we anticipate to execute in fiscal 2021 of $4,000,000 unfunded backlog from internally funded contracts that we anticipate to recognize revenue during the balance of the year of $26,000,000 This adds up to $330,000,000 or 83 percent of our fiscal 2021 midpoint revenue guidance range. Now I'd like to turn it back to Wahid.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Kevin. As we noted, we're strengthening our leading market positions, achieving critical milestone in the development and introduction of potentially valuable new capabilities, expanding our offering, deploying our balance sheet to grow our business strategically and delivering on our commitments to our customers. We're developing the solutions and capabilities our defense customers need to confront insurgencies as well as peer and near peer adversaries in both permissive and contested environments. And we continue to execute our strategy to offer a multi domain portfolio of intelligent unmanned solutions and capabilities, integrating robotics, sensors, software analytics and connectivity technologies to equip our defense and other customers with the tools to win. By doing so, we believe we will continue to deliver even greater value to our shareholders and our customers.

Supported by 83 percent visibility to the midpoint of our guidance range, we are reaffirming our full fiscal year 2021 guidance of revenue of between $390,000,000 $410,000,000 as summarized on Slide number 10 of our earnings presentation. We expect to deliver operating margin of between 12% 12.5% and now expect revised earnings per diluted share of $1.28 to $1.48 as a result of HAPS Mobile Inc. Impairment of its equity investment in Loon LLC. We continue to expect non GAAP earnings per diluted share, which excludes acquisition related expenses, amortization of acquired intangible assets and the Apps Mobile investment impairment of between $1.74 $1.94 Similar to last year, we expect about onethree of second half revenue in our Q3 based on the midpoint of our revenue guidance range and we expect an EPS loss similar to the Q3 of our fiscal year 2020. As Kevin mentioned earlier, revenue mix will result in a lower gross margin percentage in fiscal year 2021 as compared to the prior year.

We also expect research and development investments to range between 11% 12% of revenue this fiscal year. In summary, to reiterate our main points for today's call. First, our team continues to deliver strong results during the unprecedented and challenging COVID-nineteen pandemic, keeping us on track to achieve our fiscal year 2021 objectives. 2nd, we achieved significant milestones during the quarter and our key growth initiatives within tactical UAS, tactical missile systems and HAPS. And third, we're successfully executing our long term growth strategy, including deploying our strong balance sheet as we did with the Telerab acquisition, while delivering significant value to our shareholders.

Before we open the call to Q and A, I want to say thank you to our customers, our team members and our shareholders for your ongoing engagement and for challenging us always to deliver excellence. We continue to focus on delivering on our promise to help you proceed with certainty. Kevin, Steve and I will now take your questions.

Speaker 1

Thank you, Wahid. We will now begin the question and answer session of today's call. And please reenter the queue if you'd like to ask any further questions. Our first question this afternoon comes from Ken Herbert at Canaccord Genuity. Ken?

Speaker 4

Hi, Steve. Good afternoon, everybody.

Speaker 2

Good afternoon, Ken.

Speaker 4

Wahid, I just wanted to first ask on LMAMS. If in fact the fiscal 2021 budget has zeroed out the funding, can you just remind us how much of the appropriated money has not yet been spent and what that contribution you think for your full year 2021, what the guidance implies from the allmans contract for the year?

Speaker 2

Sure, Ken. So as I mentioned in my remark, the original budget line item request was roughly about $85,000,000 The House of Representatives recommended $69,000,000 roughly. And then the Senate has actually put it a 0 on that line item as a recommendation. Now none of this is final. So the actual authorization still is around the $69,000,000 but what gets appropriated is what's going to matter.

No one really knows exactly what will be appropriated. We're in very close contact with our customer. There's still so we're planning on we're planning on it being zeroed out essentially. However, the reason why I said in my remarks that there's still significant funds remaining, This because we've had significant dollars of funding on fiscal 2019, fiscal 2020, even beyond before that, there's a significant amount of dollars that are not still awarded to us as part of the existing Ju On's contract that we have. That's number 1.

Number 2, we do have the details in terms of how much revenue we've recognized. I believe Steve, you have the specific details of that, that you can just iterate for this year. But we are still expecting to achieve our full fiscal year expectation on the Switchblade 300 based on the contract that we have today. So there's not going to be, in our view, no change on that as of today. We believe that we're going to be able to execute on that, and we're currently executing that as we speak anyway.

Speaker 4

Okay, great. And if I could, just a follow-up really quickly on Telerab. It looks like a nice acquisition. Can you provide any more details in terms of has the business been growing sort of in line with the 15% that you called out for the UGV industry or anything we should we can think about in terms of the potential revenue contribution of this business once the deal is closed? Thank you.

Speaker 2

Sure, Ken. So we are I'm personally extremely excited and bullish about this acquisition. It makes a whole lot of sense in terms of long term shareholder value creation. It's the right move for us strategically. Then there's tremendous amount of synergies on the revenue side and on the top line.

In terms of the business itself, 1st and foremost, it's a very well established business that have been around for decades. They have made a very strong name for themselves. They're known for very best in class technology. They've got some very unique technology and IP related to their design of their systems, number 1. Number 2, 40 plus countries they do business with already.

The business is growing, has been growing in the past few years. Obviously, the company is private right now and we cannot get into the details of that until the deal closes, which we expect that to happen sometimes in this spring, early next calendar year. But we believe that it's going to be accretive GAAP wise on the in 2 years and it will be non GAAP EPS accretive at our fiscal year 2022, really depending on when the close actually takes place. The number one criteria for the close is really the approval of the German government for the acquisition to go through. We have worked it for a while.

We are very familiar with the company. We've been working with these guys for significant amount of time. We assess the market. We believe they're very well positioned to compete in both the domestic opportunities as well as international ones. And a great example of that is just recently, not more than a few weeks ago, 2 or 3 weeks ago, we submitted a joint proposal for a U.

S. Air Force robotics RFP, which AeroVironman is acting as the prime contractor. So we could not announce the details of that at that time due to its disclosure issues, but we believe that long term, this is a very, very good acquisition for both our short term as well as long term strategy and value creation.

Speaker 4

Thank you.

Speaker 2

You're welcome, Ken.

Speaker 1

Thank you, Ken. And before we go on in response to your Wahid, as we said in our Q1 earnings call a quarter ago, we expect about $42,000,000 of revenue this year from the Army LNIMS contract that was announced on April 30 this year. So hopefully that fills in the answer to that question. We'll now turn to Pete Skibitski from Alembic Global for our next questions. Pete?

Speaker 5

Yes. Thanks, guys. Nice quarter. Just a follow-up on Switchblade on this appropriations issue. Is it reasonable for us to expect that fiscal 2022 Switchblade revenue for you, the 300, the LMS will decline?

Or how should we think about that?

Speaker 2

Thanks, Pete. This is Wahid. So in terms of fiscal 'twenty two, we are going to provide guidance on that on our 4th quarter earnings. However, this is not something that we believe is going to affect us in terms of our revenue and our relationship and the adoption of Switchblade 300. As you know, we've been very successful over the last decade to continue to grow that business.

We have been the by far the almost the sole source provider of this capability to the U. S. Military on a number of competitions, which we have won those hands down across the board in the last several, several years. There is significant amount of dollars already in the budget process from government fiscal year 2018, 2019 2020 as I mentioned. A significant portion of that is still not contracted and awarded to us, and we expect to get those awards sometimes this fiscal year or the beginning of next fiscal year, depending really on how the government proceeds and the COVID situation continues.

So I personally do not consider this to be a major issue. I just wanted to communicate to all of you what we have learned so far, what's out there, so you're aware of it. Additionally, last point I want to make on this. The U. S.

Army already has a potential competition planned for the phase beyond this Ju Ons that we have our 3 year contract on. So we're working with our customer to make sure that we compete for that and we believe that we're positioned very well for that. So when that award takes place, sometimes probably next calendar year, then it will be a smooth transition from the existing contract and the revenue stream that we have and the awards that we've received to continue beyond that. So our position is that, A, we've had significant revenue, strong growth and B, we believe that there's still significant dollars unawarded yet, which we are expecting to receive that, which will sort of bridge the gap between our fiscal year 2021 and the government fiscal year 2021, which will then get to the next competition and next award hopefully.

Speaker 5

Okay, got it. I guess just one follow-up for me on a different topic. There's some chatter out there, I think on the Navy Submarine launch UAV program that there's been a lot of exercises and progress has been made. And I think there was an RFI out there. Can you maybe update us on are you expecting maybe in calendar 2021 to see maybe a competition for that machinery as well?

Speaker 2

Sure. So the specific Navy Submarine Launch UAV that you're referring to is very much geared towards our Blackwing platform and variant of Switchblade. As you know, in the past couple of years, I have been providing updates on our success and our progress with the Navy on piloting this and actually doing field trials in the sea with various submarines. So we continue to make progress there. We've had a lot of really good success in terms of trials and real demonstrations and field deployments.

Obviously, it's a very critical growth opportunity for us, but the adoption rate within this Navy submarine is quite slow. So we expect in that Navy submarine launch RFI that you see that we will be able to compete. We're positioned really well and we continue to make progress on that front with our customers. So expect us to obviously compete on that again and we're very well aware of it and engage with it and we've already delivered a certain number of units to our customer throughout the last year and a half or 2.

Speaker 1

Thank you, Pete. Our next question comes from Peter Arment at Baird. Peter?

Speaker 3

Yes. Good afternoon, Wahid, Kevin, Stephen. Wahid, question I guess on the Switchblade 600, you mentioned the February kind of

Speaker 2

competition? Sure. So I think Peter you're referring to the Marine Corps OPFM, Organic Precision Fire Mounted potential program and competition. As I mentioned in my remarks, we have already received about $5,000,000 worth of funding as part of a selection process last fiscal year. And we this past quarter, this year, we've also received an additional $1,000,000 to keep improving the capability, which involves our Switchblade 600 with our customer, being the Marine Corps.

We think that we're positioned very well, but there are other competitors that are also competing in this competition. However, as you know, Switchblade 600's capability is very unique and very, very compelling. We also have a tremendous, I would call it a leg up or sort of advanced progress because of our track record with our original Switchblade in this field. So the customer intends to have the competition and fly off sometimes in February of this year, which obviously because of COVID is not guaranteed, but that's what we expect that to happen as of now. And once they do that, they expect to down select the most mature solution and the best solution to go proceed further.

There is approximately $20,000,000 ish or so in the government fiscal year 2021 budget for the OPFM program and it continues after that to become into an initial rate of low initial rate of production. And then beyond that, the U. S. Marine Corps has publicly stated that they would like to get into a full production eventually as a result of this competition in down select. So the short of it is Peter that we believe A, we're positioned really well B, our progress and our success so far gives us a unique advantage in my view to be able to compete just like we've always done in this space.

And 3, it is a long term program that we're really keeping an eye on that we think it's a good starting point for Switchblade 600 amongst other opportunities. And we'll keep you updated as we make progress.

Speaker 3

Just as a follow-up, Kevin, you mentioned, I'm sorry if I missed this, you said that there was some delays tied to COVID on orders. Did you quantify that? Or if you can give us a little color, that'd be helpful. Thanks. No, we don't have an exact quantification of that, but we're maintaining our guidance for the year.

And but obviously with COVID restrictions, there's been situations where demos and things like this get delayed.

Speaker 2

Just to add to Kevin's point Peter, as we said on our remarks, we expected some of these delays during our Q4 earnings call, which was the beginning of our fiscal year 2021 and we provided that and we actually planned for that as part of our objectives and guidance that we provided. Obviously, this COVID-nineteen pandemic has been beyond belief more difficult and also it extended further longer. None of it's actually been outside of our scope and perspective in forecast that we expected. However, given that the pandemic still continues, we still expect some delays. I am so proud of our team, the job they've done in terms of addressing both the contracting obstacles and delays that we have been experiencing with customers as well as the supply chain issues that we've experienced with some suppliers, not all, just very select some of them.

So overall, we're making great progress. We're on track. And as you could see from our results, that supports it. And then also for the second half of the year, we're positioned well, although we just want to give you all the color as to what the landscape looked like going into the second half of this year. And we'll keep you updated.

Speaker 1

Thank you, Peter. Our next question comes from Joe DeNardi at Stifel. Joe?

Speaker 6

Hey, good afternoon, everybody.

Speaker 2

Hi, Joe.

Speaker 6

Wahid, you mentioned that you're not expecting, I guess, the LMAMS funding issue to impact, I guess, revenue for next year. But as it relates to some of the order delays that you're seeing now, should we take that into account as we think about next year's revenue? Is that a potential risk? Are you assuming that that does kind of negatively impact the business next year?

Speaker 2

So Joe, I mean, we are very, very focused on executing our fiscal year 2021 right now. We will provide specific color to fiscal 2022 on our Q4 earnings call. I do, however, under align or emphasize that our 3 consecutive years of top line growth and profitability shows the diversification and the resiliency of our portfolio now versus many years ago. Not only do we have a diversified customer base, but also in terms of countries, geography, product line, portfolio and opportunities. We feel very good about our chances of long term value creation and growth.

I believe that there are several factors that we're looking forward to updating you as we progress in terms of opportunities that we have. But I think the long term picture for us right now as of today looks quite good. I mean, I really like our cars given what's going on in the world and what our customers need and what opportunities we got in front of us, irrespective of the LMANs. I think that that's going to be it's just one element of many, many other growth opportunities that we have. And even in that growth opportunity, we've been growing.

We've been growing our LMAPS business for several years. There's significant dollars in the pipeline. We're talking to our customers very regularly, obviously remotely. And we think that we're going to overcome these issues, especially now that the kit vaccines are becoming available quite soon. Okay.

Speaker 6

And then, Wahid, is there any update on kind of international Switchblade opportunities, timing and that's becoming a reality for you all?

Speaker 2

Nothing really has changed materially since last quarter because we're still engaged with customers. Obviously, this COVID situation has made it difficult engaging with international customers and having them to work with our Department of State as well as Pentagon. But we still see potential multiple countries that are interested, engaged. And as we have more updates, we'll let you know. It's just a matter of when versus if, if you ask me still.

Nothing materially has changed from that. We'll continue to make progress, but at a slower rate due to COVID. Thank you

Speaker 1

for your questions, Joe. We'll now take the next question from Louis DePalma from William Blair. Louis? Wahid,

Speaker 7

Kevin and Steve, good afternoon.

Speaker 2

Good afternoon, Louie.

Speaker 7

Regarding the Switchblade 600 bake off for the organic Precision Fire's mounted program, I was wondering how strong are AeroVironment patents for the Switchblade's wave off capability?

Speaker 2

Very, very good question and great insight, Louis. Our Wave Off is, A, one of the most important patents on our Switchblade portfolio, but it's not the only one. We believe that that patent is very critical. It's very defensible. We have multiple patents, both in terms of specific narrow technology patents that address a specific very deep narrow technology area, but also quite broad ones like the wave off.

So we have when we make these investments in R and D to develop these capabilities, we always think about how to make sure how we defend that. And we also have a track record of defending previous gains that we've had in litigations of similar type of matters. So again, I think that our technology is strong. I think our position and our progress so far gives us also an advantage, but we're not relying just on that. We believe that we want to make sure irrespective of technology that our solution is the best solution for our customers when it comes to their selection.

And we feel good about it. So when we look forward to the competition as we always do, that's a business that we're very familiar with, competing and having a high win rate in our competitions.

Speaker 7

Sounds good. And you guys made great progress with the SungGlider and you spoke about the video call and about the high quality resolution. And Kevin, you indicated that HAPS Mobile had a write down associated with its investment in Loon. And I was wondering what are the implications of Google potentially no longer looking to fund Loon? And like is there an opportunity for AeroVironment to potentially acquire like Loon's technology assets in order to have that intellectual property for the telecom that's involved in the radio access layer and providing connectivity?

Thanks.

Speaker 2

So Louis, this is Wahid. Great question again. In terms of the impairment, it was really just an accounting exercise on our side. It was related to an investment that HAPS Mobile made and to Loon LLC that based on Alphabet and Loon LLC's own decision and process accounting process triggered a devaluation of that investment, which then triggered an impairment in our side a one time of course, and it sort of expedited the impairment, the losses of our investments into HAPS mobile. So it has nothing to do with our business operations, particularly and it has almost literally having to do with the HAPS mobile's relationship with us a bare environment.

In terms of Loon, that's really a question related to Alphabet and Loon themselves. I'm not in a position to have insight into that. Obviously, we are not involved in their business. We feel very good about our relationship in general as they are sort of like a supplier to us on the payload of the HAPS mobile. We flew that payload.

We demonstrated the capability. We continue to talk and work together. And all of us, both South Bank and Air Bahnment is quite bullish about our beliefs and the Sunglider's prospects for success in the long run. We've always believed in that. I think that our track record of success so far substantiates and supports improves the fact that this is a very viable platform for the connectivity of the global population of human being on this globe.

So we look forward to that.

Speaker 1

Thank you, Louie. We'll now turn back to Joe DeNardi from Stifel with follow-up question. Joe?

Speaker 6

Thanks. Just 2 for Kevin, I think. Can you give us what international sales were in the quarter, just total international including apps?

Speaker 3

Total international is actually split fifty-fifty. It was just around $46,000,000 a little over 46,000,000

Speaker 6

dollars Great. And you talked about kind of lower G and A, I guess, as a result of travel and trade shows. How much of that is structural? I mean, how material could that be on

Speaker 3

the other side of this?

Speaker 6

Do you expect it to be for most of it to come back or to be reinvested elsewhere? Thank you.

Speaker 3

It's difficult to say when comeback will happen. So but obviously, there would be some reinvestment at that time, but we're not really putting a number on it right now.

Speaker 2

Thanks for the

Speaker 1

follow-up question, Joe. Yes, we appreciate it. And at this point, we have no further questions today. We thank you for your attention and for your interest in AeroVironment. An archived version of this call, all SEC filings and relevant company and industry news can be found on our website avinc.com.

We wish you a joyous and a healthy holiday season and New Year, and we look forward to speaking with you again following next quarter's results. Good day.

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