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Earnings Call: Q2 2018

Jul 31, 2018

Speaker 1

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the AvalonBay Communities Second Quarter 2018 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. Following remarks by the company, we will conduct a question and answer session. Call. Your host for today's conference call Mr.

Jason Riley, Vice President of Investor Relations. Mr. Riley, please go ahead. Thank you, Travis. Welcome to AvalonBay Communities' 2nd Quarter 2018 Earnings Conference Call.

Before we begin, please note that forward looking statements may be made during this discussion. There are a variety of risks and uncertainties associated with forward looking statements and actual results may differ materially. There is a discussion of these risks and uncertainties in yesterday afternoon's press release as well as in the company's Form 10 ks and Form 10 Q filed with the SEC. As usual, this press release does include an Attachment with definitions and reconciliations of non GAAP financial measures and other terms, which may be used in today's discussion. The attachment is also available on our website at www.avolonebay.com/earnings, and we encourage you to refer to this information during the review of our operating results And with that, I'll turn the call over to Tim Naughton, Chairman and CEO of Outland Bay Communities for his remarks.

Tim? Yes. Thanks, Jason, and welcome to our Q2 call. With me today are Kevin O'Shea, Shawn Breslin and Matt Derenbaum. Shawn, Kevin and I will provide a brief commentary on the slides that we posted last night and then all of us will be available for Q and A afterwards.

Our comments will focus on providing, first, an overview Our results for the quarter, secondly, an update to our outlook for the full year, and then lastly, we want to touch on how we're managing risk At this point in the cycle. Starting on Slide 4, highlights for the quarter include core FFO growth of 6.7% or $0.04 per share above the midpoint of our Q2 outlook. Same store revenue growth came in at 2.5%, which was about 20 basis points higher than budget for the quarter, roughly 30 bps above budget year to date. While we completed 1 $140,000,000 in new development at an average initial projected yield of 6.4% and so far This year completed $430,000,000 at a projected yield of 6.5%. And then lastly, we raised about $300,000,000 of external capital Through the sale of 4 communities at an average cap rate of 4.7% as the transaction market continues to be very healthy.

Turning now to Slide 5 and touching on our outlook update for the full year. Core FFO growth is now Projected at 4.1 percent or 50 basis points above our original outlook. Same store revenue and NOI growth are Expected NOI from development is unchanged at $52,000,000 as deliveries, occupancies and rates are all largely consistent with plan. Projected development starts for the year, still tracking our plan of roughly $900,000,000 And then Lastly, planned external funding for the year is now $950,000,000 or about $300,000,000 less than originally expected, mainly due to reduced development spend as some New developments have started or expect to start a little later in the year than we had originally planned. Turning now to Slide 6.

Slide 6 provides a break Down of our revision to core FFO of $0.04 in the revised outlook. As you can see, higher than expected stabilized Minor revisions to our capital plan and updated overhead rejections more or less offset one another for the balance Other revisions to our forecast. Turning now to Slide 7. What's driving this upward revision? It's really coming stronger than expected economic and job growth.

And if you look at it nationally, job growth is expected to be about 400,000 or about 20% higher than initial forecast that was embedded in our original outlook and about 150,000 jobs or about 30% higher than Averagely anticipated in our markets, which are even stronger. On the supply side, if you look at the projected deliveries in our markets, we now expect it to be off by about 5 From what we had anticipated at the beginning of the year, and so that the operating performance is really being driven by Stronger than expected fundamentals on both the demand and supply side. I'm now going to turn it over to Sean to provide a little bit more color on portfolio performance across our markets. Chuck?

Speaker 2

Thanks, Tim. Turning to Slide 8, as Tim mentioned earlier, We increased the midpoint of our same store revenue growth outlook by 30 basis points to 2.4%. This outperformance is supported by our outlook for Stronger growth in New England and Northern California, which represents about 35% of our portfolio, has been partially offset by weaker performance in Seattle, For New England, it's benefiting from better than expected performance in the Boston market. Job growth, which has been running at an annualized rate of 1.6% over the past 6 months, a reduced level of supply It resulted in fairly positive momentum as far as this year. At the portfolio level, reduced turnover, which was down more than 400 basis points in Q2 alone, Has allowed us to maintain roughly 96% occupancy as we push rental rates.

We achieved 3.8 from our primarily suburban portfolio during Q2 and are trending above 4% for July. In Northern California, better than expected job growth, strong wage growth and overall confidence in the tech sector has led to increased demand in both San Jose and San Francisco. Job growth has accelerated to an annualized pace 2% in San Francisco and 3% in San Jose over the past 6 months. This healthy level of demand, Combined with moderating supply has resulted in better pricing power over the past quarter. Many of our year over year Key performance metrics for San Jose and San Francisco improved materially during Q2.

Turnover decreased more than 700 basis points in San Jose and 900 basis points in San Francisco. Occupancy increased 60 basis points in San Jose and 80 basis In San Francisco, for the quarter, occupancy averaged roughly 97% in each market. The median household And 4.6% in San Francisco, up 160 and 350 basis points respectively compared to Q2 last year. And when you look at July, rent change is trending above 5% in both markets. Moving to the Pacific Northwest, performance has moderated as new supply, which is at a cyclical 5% of inventory comes online.

Job growth remains strong, but has also slowed from the blistering pace of a couple of years ago. Brand change in our portfolio averaged 3% in Q2, 2, about 400 basis points below what we achieved in Q2 2017. In terms of portfolio revenue growth, Year to date results have also been impacted by activity, including lease terminations associated with our retail portfolio in the region. On a year to date basis, our 3% same store revenue growth rate represents 3.5% revenue growth from the residential portfolio and a roughly 15% reduction in the revenue generated from the retail portfolio. The performance in our New York, New Jersey, Mid Atlantic And Southern California regions is expected to be relatively consistent with our original outlook.

Moving to Slide 9, The healthy demand we've experienced over the past year combined with the leveling off of supply has resulted in relatively stable rent change at the portfolio level. This slide depicts the trailing 4 quarter average rent change to eliminate the effect of seasonal patterns in our business. We've averaged roughly 2% since Q2 last year, which has supported revenue growth in the low to mid 2% range the last 4 quarters. In terms of recent activity, blended rent change for July is currently 3.25%, about 50 basis points greater than what we achieved in July 2017, this is the 1st month the portfolio has produced a material year over year increase in rent change since October 2015. Renewal offers for August September are running in the high 5% range, about 25 basis points greater than the offers made at the same time last year.

Now I'll turn it over to Kevin to talk about development in the balance sheet. Kevin?

Speaker 3

Thanks, Sean. Turning to Slide 10. As the business cycle has matured, we have focused on reducing development risk while further enhancing our credit profile. As you can see on Slide 10, We have reduced development starts for 2017 2018 to about $900,000,000 per year. This is $500,000,000 or 35% lower than the average start volume of $1,400,000,000 per year in the preceding full year period.

At this reduced level, new development starts can be funded on a roughly leverage neutral basis through a combination of internal free cash flow, leveraged EBITDA growth and disposition activity. As shown on Slide 11, we focused on increasing timing flexibility within our $3,500,000,000 development rights pipeline so that we have greater flexibility to adjust new development starts to real estate and capital market conditions. Specifically, in the first two bars on the left, about 40% or $1,400,000,000 of the pipeline represents projects that are likely to start over the next two and a half years. In the middle bar, about $400,000,000 of potential development activity represents opportunities to densify existing apartment communities on the West Coast and an opportunity with flexible timing in the Mid Atlantic. These opportunities can proceed as starts when entitlements are complete if they continue to make economic sense at that time, Royalties can be held in inventory for the next cycle at little cost, if necessary, since there is no third party land to be purchased.

And about onethree or $1,200,000,000 represent projects that are likely to start at least a few years from now sometime in the next cycle. Much of this business is public private partnerships with flexible timing and representing a different risk profile than our typical development right. It is also worth noting that we are controlling this $3,500,000 development pipeline with a total investment of only $170,000,000 as of quarter end. This amount consists of approximately $130,000,000 in land held for development, of which we expect to put about $115,000,000 into production by year end and $40,000,000 in development pursuit costs. Altogether, this increased timing flexibility and modest financial exposure reflects the more defensive risk management posture that we adopted several years ago in anticipation of a more challenging development environment.

Turning to Slide 12. As we have throughout this cycle, we continue to remain focused on mitigating a key risk of development, which has lagged funding risk, by continuing to substantially match fund development underway with long term capital. By doing so, we are able to lock in much of the development profit by substantially reducing the amount of remaining capital that is exposed to future changes

Speaker 1

in our cost of capital.

Speaker 3

At the end of the second quarter, we were approximately 85% match funded against development underway, which is in excess of the high end of our target range of being roughly 70% to 80% match funded against outstanding development commitments. On Slide 13, we show how we have remained focused on enhancing our balance sheet strength and flexibility by highlighting 2 important credit metrics, namely overall leverage and refinancing risk. Specifically, at the end of the second quarter, Net debt to core EBITDAre remain low at 5.0x and at the low end of our target range of about 5x to 6x. In addition, by issuing longer dated debt in recent years, we have increased the weighted average years to maturity of our total debt outstanding from 8.3 years to 10.2 years, which is one of the highest in the REIT sector. In doing so, we not only reduced our near term refinancing risk over the next few years, that also put the company on stronger footing for the long term.

And with that, I'll turn it back to Ken for concluding remarks.

Speaker 1

Thanks, Kevin. Just finishing up on Slide 14 and some of the key takeaways for the quarter. Healthy economic growth is supporting apartment markets with Revenue growth now stabilizing in the 2% to 3% range. Our revised outlook is ahead of our original plan, driven by better than expected fundamentals. Development deliveries and NOI are in line with our original plan.

As the Cycle ages, as Kevin just mentioned, we are increasingly turning our attention to risk management, particularly how we are managing the development portfolio of the balance sheet. And then lastly, we are currently on pace to deliver better than sector average core FFO growth for the 8th consecutive year. And with that, we'd like to open up the call for questions, Travis. Yes, sir. Our next question our first question comes from Nick Joseph.

Thanks. Can you mention risk management? There have been media reports now on exploring a larger New York disposition Transaction, what's your appetite for selling or JV in a portfolio of assets? Nick, Tim. We are aware of Some media reports out there.

As it relates to the Manhattan portfolio of assets, I mean, we can't really comment on it. I guess what I'd say is we often do explore either opportunistically or strategically disposition or portfolio type agreements, either Outright sales are JVs and they are often subject to confidentiality. And as early to that specific deal, we'll When it makes sense to comment on anything, we will. But as I mentioned in my earlier remarks, the disposition market is The transaction market is very healthy. We sold $300,000,000 this quarter at sub-five cap rate.

Those aren't necessarily the lowest cap rate assets in the portfolio. So I think it is as you look at Across kind of our opportunity set for capital, asset sales and debt are easily sort of screen the most attractive to it. So it's just a matter of what form and we're trying to marry that against Just against our capital allocation objectives, as you know, we entered Denver and Southeast Florida recently and Yes, looking to some extent to reallocate some capital from the Northeast to those markets, and we've done a We have a fair bit of sales in the suburban New York area as of late, and we're looking at other opportunities as well. Thanks. And then you've resized or reduced the development pipeline and leverages at the low end of the targeted range.

Should we expect similar levels Jim, as we mentioned, we have as Kevin mentioned, we have brought it down a bit From an average of $1,400,000,000 a year in store, it's about $900,000,000 in the last 2 years. As many of you know, Just look at kind of what's happening on the construction side. Construction costs have been running in the mid single digit or probably in I think mid- to high single digit escalation today and whereas rents are more than 2% to 3% range. And if you just You play that out over a couple of years, that could erode yields by, call it, 20 basis points a year. So as a result, I mean, a lot of this is bottom up at some level.

Just plus make less There's fewer deals that are going to make sense, and therefore, we're likely to see some that volume Come down assuming we see the same kind of trends we have been seeing, which is construction costs outpacing rent growth, land markets have not yet adjusted yet, Yes, something else we didn't mention, but we really haven't added a development right so far this year other than the DRAU deal that we Started in Southeast Florida. So as you look at our bucket of it's one of the reasons why we want to have flexibility and optionality with our Development Right portfolio. If you look at that group of opportunities, there's probably one bucket that sort of clear the bar easily that we'll There's a hurdle in the 3rd bucket where it's more of a stretch. Where it's more of a stretch, we'll probably hold off or renegotiate or potentially abandon, We're just clearing the bar, it's probably going to be a little bit more of a game time decision. So I know it's a Long winded way of saying it kind of depends.

It's not a simple answer, but I would guess if we see the same kind of trends in construction costs, We'll continue to see the total level of development volume sort of continue to drift down from this point forward. Thanks. Appreciate the color. Our next question comes from Rich Hightower.

Speaker 4

I just want to pick up quickly on Nick's question on the Manhattan JV transaction, potential transaction there. So Maybe you've already answered this question, but as we think about the motivations for doing something like that, is it sort of equal weighted between A source of funds for additional development, is it to reduce your New York City exposure? Is it a mark to market on those assets that you think

Speaker 1

Rich, again, can't comment on anything specifically. But any time we're looking at doing something opportunistically, It's going to be a function of is it a good source of capital first, which this resistance generally is an attractive source of capital, certainly more attractive Then Equity Day, it's going to be a function of kind of where we want to allocate capital across our market footprint. And thirdly, Based on how we think about valuation in a particular market versus maybe some other opportunities that we may have to reallocate the capital. So Those are the kind of things that we're using as a screen to look for opportunities, particularly ones that are maybe a little bit more opportunistic in nature.

Speaker 4

Okay. That's fine. Thanks, Tim. And then the second question here. So I think reducing turnover has been a It's been sort of a theme the past couple of quarters, not just from Avalon, but also from your public competitors.

Is there anything structural going on there? Is it Asset specific, portfolio specific, market specific. And then if you think about what a normalized Turnover rate might be, I mean, how much of that has impacted OpEx year to date? And what

Speaker 3

do you think sort of

Speaker 4

a normalized OpEx run rate is given a normalized turnover rate, if

Speaker 3

you can help us think through that.

Speaker 2

Yes, Rich, this is Sean. In In terms of the first part of your question, I mean, turnover is down pretty broadly. I mean, if you look at our footprint on a Quarterly basis, year over year as well as the year to date numbers, turnover is down pretty material across all the markets with the exception The Greater New York, New Jersey region, which is pretty flat and the reductions are relatively meaningful, let's say, greater than 300 basis points across all those markets that are down.

Speaker 1

And when

Speaker 2

you look at sort of the reasons for turnover, it's they haven't really changed a lot. I mean, relocation is up a little bit, rent increase is down a little bit. So just the overall volume of churn is down. And I think it's probably a function of a number of different factors, including certainly what's happening in the single family business, in terms of home sales and production Things like that being relatively constrained in part due to the availability of labor, cost of materials, things like that In terms of actually producing new products as well as just inventory being down in terms of home sales. So there's probably a number of different factors in there as it relates to turnover.

But if you look at the cost side of it, Redeck is down, which shows up in the maintenance category. But in terms of moving the needle, it's not moving the needle in a material way, I would say. So if you looked at overall OpEx growth, you may be talking about 10, 15 basis points that might relate to what's happening on turnover and redact And things of that sort. Probably the more important factor is we're thinking about it more on the occupancy side in terms of reduced turnover, You don't have the vacant days associated with turning those homes that tends to support a higher occupancy, which is certainly what we experienced in the first half of the year, Where outperformance in revenue was to a significant degree due to greater occupancy. So I'd probably focus More on that side of the P and L as opposed to the OpEx side in terms of the material benefit.

Speaker 3

All right. That's perfect. Thanks, Sean.

Speaker 1

Our next question comes from Drew Babiner. Good morning. There's good deal

Speaker 5

of information in the presentation about employment growth and obviously it exceeded your expectations So far this year, I was hoping you could talk about whether the improved employment growth outlook is kind of a pass through of what happened in the first half of the year or better expectations for the second half of the year. And I guess kind of bolting onto that, how is the weighted growth trended year to date relative to your expectations kind of

Speaker 2

Yes. Happy to talk about that, Drew. This is Sean. In terms of job growth, What I'd say is across the footprint, the majority of the markets are producing jobs at a greater rate than what we expected. The exceptions are sort of in the Greater New England area, but it's a pretty modest number in terms of softness there in job growth, a little bit in Southern California.

But outperformance in New York, Mid Atlantic, Pacific Northwest, Northern California in terms of jobs has been healthy. And certainly, we would expect that to bleed through into the second half of the year. As I mentioned on as it relates to the last The first half of the year, we benefited from greater occupancy that has allowed us to push rates a little bit harder, and we expect to benefit from that in the second And let it bleed through across the footprint. So if you're looking for the impact, we certainly realized In terms of occupancy, we're realizing it in terms of rate growth. You'll see more probably on the rate growth side than occupancy in the second half of the year.

As it relates to wage growth across the various markets, we have seen pretty healthy wage growth. I mentioned what's happening in Northern California, but we're seeing across some of the major markets north of 5% wage growth Not wage growth, but household median household income of new residents relative to new residents that moved in the same period last year. So if you think about it from that perspective, I think we're somewhat of a proxy for our market and the profile of the customers within our buildings. So it's been pretty healthy Wage growth has actually driven rent to income ratios down close to 20%, whereas they peak the cycle closer to 22% or so. So wage That's been healthy across the portfolio, but most pronounced in the tech markets, but healthy just about everywhere.

Speaker 5

And I guess if you could help kind of marry the comments about economic prosperity in the near term and kind of using the term late cycle and saying that Things have obviously decelerated from where they were a few years ago, but this pickup in employment, is that sort of saying that, Yes, things are a little better than expectations, but employment growth is likely to kind of return more to trend levels over time, wage growth is likely to return to trend over time. I guess, how do you kind of marry the short term versus the long term in the way you've phrased it?

Speaker 1

Well, I mean, And maybe if you just listen to economists, I think the general consensus is that the combination of stimulus and The rollback of regulatory requirements is creating a bit of a seamless effect here that may not be long lasting. We think it's probably going to last for 2018 and maybe 2019, but In some sense, you may be pulling some demand forward. So I'm not sure that either the e commerce community or we believe at this point that Yes, it's just structural in nature that's going to sort of put us on meaningfully different trajectories sort of longer term, if you will. But certainly, kind of what's going on in the and corporations are just starting to get the benefit of this, the tax cuts, right? And they're just Most companies just started to enter their planning and capital cycles right now.

And so you would expect to see some of that Some of the impact carry forward in 2019 based upon that alone.

Speaker 5

Okay. That's all for me. Thank you.

Speaker 1

Our next question comes from Juan Sanabria. Hi. Just hoping you could comment a little bit on supply. You talked about Some slippage in deliveries, seeing 5% less deliveries than you expected for 'eighteen to start the year. But if you could just help us frame your views As you see 2019 now, which markets are up and which are down and how you're thinking about the relative growth in the portfolio as a result of that?

Speaker 2

Yes, Juan, this is Sean. Happy to take that and then others can chime in as needed. Yes. As we Tim mentioned in his prepared remarks, supply consistent with the last several years It's beginning to slip a little bit from 1 year to the next. So it's in the kind of 5% to 6% range in terms of The deliveries that we anticipated for 2018 that are probably going to be pushed into 2019 and it's spread across a variety of markets, Most concentrated in Southern California, I'd say, where based on what we see upwards of 20%, 25% Deliveries that were expected this year can be pushed into 2019, but there's some in Northern California, the Mid Atlantic, etcetera.

So it's sort of everywhere. And I Expect that based on what we're seeing in terms of trends in the construction market that as we get towards year end, we'll see additional slippage In terms of deliveries, so I think the sort of the macro way to think about this is, last year deliveries were About 2.2% of inventory based on what we know today for 2018, it's going to be about 2.3%. 2019 is forecasted 2.1, but I'd say 2018 2019 are probably going to be pretty similar in terms of the volume of deliveries and really have to double Click through at the market or the regional level to find where the variations are. And so as you look at 2019 relative to 2018 In terms of any meaningful changes, there's 3 markets where we're likely to see an increase in deliveries And that's in D. C.

Proper, the district itself, the East Bay and San Jose, on the order of magnitude of 2000 to 2,200 units, Additional units in 2019 relative to 2018 and then the markets with a more meaningful reduction in deliveries Currently are expected to be New York City, which is pretty meaningful. It's a reduction of about 6,000 units as compared to deliveries that are Which we expect to benefit from given some stuff we have under construction up there. We think that'll be good timing for us. And then in Orange County and San Diego, Dan, about 3,000 units in Orange County, about 2,500 in San Diego. Orange County performance has been a little bit soft this year, so they should benefit that market next year.

So I mean, those are the markets that given the current level of job creation and assume that that bleeds through into 2019, Tagging along with some of the things that Tim talked about from a macroeconomic perspective, these markets, the changes in supply, you'd expect to see either an uplift Potentially a modest softening, all else being equal. So that's probably how I'd describe that in terms of next year.

Speaker 1

Great. And then just with regards to your development, you brought down your uses. You talked about some delays or starts maybe a little bit later than you'd anticipated. It didn't look like any Have your completions moved other than maybe public market in California? Do you see any risk from your development perspective on Delivery delays or slippage, given what we've just discussed?

Tim here. No, in fact, Our updated outlook basically is aligned with our original budget. So we're basically tracking plan at this point with respect to Delivery is occupancies and rate as it relates to the development portfolio. Thank you. Our next question comes from Austin Wurschmidt.

Speaker 6

Hi, good morning. Just have a question around the guidance. So you beat in the 2nd quarter by $0.04 which was attributed to better core fundamentals. I'm just curious if this was occupancy related. I think you mentioned a little bit of rate you expect to show up in the back half of the year, but would have thought there'd be some carry through to the balance of the year, particularly with the backdrop of better demand and lower supply you talked about.

So can you just walk us through Why we're not seeing any flow through?

Speaker 2

Yes, this is Sean. Why don't I let Kevin kind of roadmap the Earnings piece for you and then I'm happy to talk about the bleed through on revenue specifically. Sure. So Austin, in terms

Speaker 3

of as you've identified In terms of our outlook, we're expecting from a core FFO point of view, a $0.04 increase in 2018 versus our initial outlook to 8.9 versus the 93 and as we have in the favorable areas, we should double click through that. Essentially on a net basis, dollars 0.04 is really coming through the same store And redevelopment portfolios with essentially of that $0.04 really kind of on a net basis $0.03 coming through from same store revenue, if you will, And then the other penny coming through, essentially accelerated occupancies in the redevelopment portfolio. And And then sort of as Tim pointed out and to be opening the adjustments in the capital markets and expectations in the overhead line items kind of being awash. In terms of kind of the cadence of that, if you look out in the balance of the year and our implied guidance For core FFO in 3Q and what you might sort of back into for the Q4, much of The sequential uplift in core FFO as you pace through the balance of the year is really going to be driven primarily from same store NOI, if you will, and to a lesser degree, but still to a positive degree from lease up activity in the development portfolio.

Yes.

Speaker 2

And Austin, as it relates to Thinking about how revenue growth bleeds through, as I indicated, the first half of the year, we outperformed our expectations overall In the neighborhood of 25 basis points or so, as a majority of that was on the occupancy side around 20 basis points, the other handful of basis points through rate and other rental revenue. As we move through the second half of the year, as I mentioned earlier, we expect more of that performance to come through on the rate side than the occupancy side. We had budgeted to be at a higher level of occupancy in the second half versus the first half. So that's how I would think about And the components of performance shift in the same store basket as we move through the balance of the year.

Speaker 6

So does the revised guidance in the back half You're assuming inflection that you talked about in July and then also for August September renewals?

Speaker 1

Yes.

Speaker 6

Okay. Appreciate that. And then previously in the Mid Atlantic, you talked about that market was tracking a little bit softer early in the year. We saw an acceleration here. What do you attribute that acceleration to?

Has it benefited from better demand? Or did you see supply get pushed out a bit in that market specifically.

Speaker 2

Yes, Austin, it's Sean. It is on the demand side, job growth Outlook for 2018 based on what we produced in the first half and sort of the expected pace in the second half given some of the macroeconomic Thanks. As Tim talked about, we're talking about at the beginning of the year, we expected job growth to be closer to 1.1%, roughly 1%. Right now, it's tracking the pace. It's by closer to 1.6%.

So it's a pretty meaningful increase. Supply has not changed materially, I would say,

Speaker 1

at this point. When you look

Speaker 2

at the delays in that market, we're talking of insignificant number of units. It's like 800 units or so in DC that's been pushed out, Really nothing in suburban Maryland and Virginia. There's a little bit of Baltimore, but we don't have a big same store basket there. So It's primarily on the demand side when you look at the Mid Atlantic. And it's a in terms of where we're seeing the best performance right now is in the Northern Virginia Submarket of the 3 major components of the metro area, so.

Great. Thanks for the time.

Speaker 1

Our next question comes from John Pawlowski. Thanks. Tim, regarding dispositions and doing something more opportunistic, Am I interpreting your comments right that if you did do something opportunistic that proceeds will be funneled towards development and acquisitions? Perhaps. Perhaps.

I mean, obviously, It's part of the whole capital allocation process, but it's I mean, largely the fund, we don't really have any debt Retire. I mean, debt rolling, but it's largely fund development and perhaps to some extent, redeploy And to potentially expand particularly the expansion markets in Southeast Florida endeavor. Some of that may be in development, by the way, as well as acquisitions. Okay. Curious the thought process just in terms of deploying capital in a very, very competitive private market.

If construction costs keep outpacing rent growth by a wide margin, your cost of equity remains impaired and private vehicles keep from raving More money than God, and people are going to debt Denver in South Florida. My question is, did the odds of you guys doing a special dividend or

Speaker 2

Yes. John, it's Kevin. I mean,

Speaker 3

we understand kind of where you're getting at. It's sort of a hypothetical in the first about whether we transact opportunistically and then another hypothetical in terms of what do we decide at that point in time Based on future capital market and real estate conditions about the second choice and how to deploy that capital, That's a lot of speculation for something that hasn't yet happened. I guess to try to be responsive, we do think about all those questions. So if cash shows up in hand and there's not an immediate compelling use, then certainly issues such as a special dividend Buyback all get part of the management discussion.

Speaker 1

So as we talked about before, there

Speaker 3

are a number of different hurdles and complicating factors that relate to each of those things, particularly as a taxpaying entity with obligations to make a dividend over time. So It's premature for us to try to answer that question in

Speaker 2

a concrete way or to kind

Speaker 3

of lay out the specificity that the framework would be, We certainly look at all those things under circumstances should they arise.

Speaker 1

Okay. Thank you. Our next question comes from John Kim. Good morning.

Speaker 7

On your development rights slide slide 11 of your presentation, you have a bar of $400,000,000 which includes asset densification on the West Coast. I'm assuming this includes your joint venture with GGP in Seattle, but I was wondering if there were any other retail developments as part of this figure and how many joint ventures you may have on densification efforts?

Speaker 1

Yes. John, it's Matt. I can Speak to that one. Actually, no, the potential joint venture with DGP in Seattle is not currently in our development rights pipeline. We don't Technically recognized a development right to its clear due diligence and cleared our investment committee Kind of the initial screen.

So we've been working on that for a long time, and it is what I'd call a likely future development right, but that's not apparent. So in terms of how much of the current development rights pipeline is retail joint ventures, none of it. Again, we are talking to various folks. We do have a number of development rights, which are partnerships with Retail owners where ultimately we will own the residential and they will own the retail. We have a site in Woburn, Mass.

It's in the development rights pipeline that fits that which is a partnership with Edens. We have a number of development communities currently underway, like our deal in Towson with RPAI that would That description for the Amityville Public Market site. But the only development joint venture, true joint venture we have right now is one that's wrapping which is Northpointe and Cambridge.

Speaker 8

So in this figure

Speaker 7

of asset densification, those are densification efforts on your assets?

Speaker 1

Yes. There's a couple of assets that we own that we bought through Archstone, one of which is in Mountain View, which we've talked about a little bit in the past, one of which is in San Jose. And there's actually a third one in Redmond, which is not on the list yet, but which will join the development rights pipeline in the Q3. These are older garden communities where with surface parking, where jurisdictions recognize there's a need for more housing as part of just an overall housing shortage in those markets and are willing to work with us to try and Modify the entitlements to add density usually through replacing parking or replacing surface parking with Parking deck in some cases just reducing the parking ratio because times have changed and there's not close enough demand for parking.

Speaker 7

Got it. Okay. And then a second question on development returns. This quarter, you had 170 basis points spread in development yields between high rise and garden developments. But I was wondering if you had seen a noticeable difference among development unlevered IRRs Between high rise, mid rise and garden projects based on your history of developing and recycling assets?

Speaker 1

Yes, it's an interesting question. Generally, I think we did the last time we looked at that by product type, I think it was pretty consistent Across the three baskets, high rises will generally tend to trade at a lower cap rate. And in some cases, We developed high rises in urban submarkets that we're transitioning where we got in early like you think about Christie Place, we were very early there Our Riverview assets in Long Island City. So sometimes that plays a part in it as well. I would say probably in terms of risk adjusted returns.

High rises are riskier in our experience, both on the cost side And just the timing it takes, takes a long time to put the asset into production. So you might argue Gardens are getting the same IRRs on a risk adjusted basis. It's probably even a little better, but and that's probably over the last 10 or 15 years, I don't know, I'm guessing maybe a third of our development in terms of capital has been high rise, probably 2 thirds has been like Fred. Our next question comes from John Genuity. If I'm looking at Page 17, your development rights, are you at liberty to talk about where the numbers make sense?

I'm assuming you've got some low basis in some of your land positions or your development rights, which help the yield on cost. But Where do the numbers pencil out and where don't they in this day and age? Do you mean kind of geographically or by? Yes, geographically. Geographically?

You're talking about putting a lot of this into play, I think. Well, Ken went over on the slide. Some of these are going to take quite a while to play out and others would be ready in the next year or 2. The ones Where the economics are holding better tend to be the more suburban deals where the entitlement process takes longer. And as you point out, in Suburban New Jersey, those are deals that are less sensitive to changes in the cycle.

And that's where you see, frankly, when you look at our development rights pipeline, it is a little overweight in the Northeast, partially because of that. But in terms of the $3,500,000,000 that's there, it's the allocation of what makes economic sense is probably consistent with just the total allocation that you see on that chart. Great. And then second question, has Great. And then second question, have you seen any sign that the merchant builders are Perhaps laying off people or slowing down?

Or are they still locked and loaded and aggressively trying to build new product? Yes. We haven't seen this is Matt again. We have not seen many farms of them slowing down yet. I would say, I don't know that they're increasing capacity, but I would say they're still pretty full up.

They still have pretty deep pipelines. And in fact, One of the ways we've tried to play it out a little bit, as Tim mentioned, we are particularly in the expansion markets looking to in addition to doing our own ground up development, Partnering with some folks that might have sites ready to go. And the Doral asset we started this past quarter is a good example of that where That's a deal that TCR, the local TCR office is the development sponsor. We're providing the capital. At the end of the day, we will buy out their position and wind up as a wholly owned asset.

But they took the entitlement risk. They're taking the construction We're taking the lease up risk. And we like that kind of business. We haven't done a lot of it in the past, but particularly in these expansion markets where there are some Ready to go, where the economics still do look good, that's a good way to get some volume there. Yes, John, Henry, just to add Just maybe to add that quickly, it's the public to pull back, which is interesting.

And I agree with Matt. My sense is the Merchant guys haven't necessarily increased, but not necessarily pulled back at all. But then I think the other trend you've seen, you just had some new entrants that probably made up We're offset some with the amount of public support back. So overall, we're seeing pretty level volume of supply, And that's kind of what's in our projections kind of over the next couple of years. Great.

Yes, I think I'd probably add to that If the multifamily focused public asset pulled back, but the multiple product type Our next question comes from Dennis McGill.

Speaker 8

And the question guys, just want to tie together a couple of things you noted with on the turnover side, turnover being down substantially and you mentioned that being really across portfolio and then wage growth similarly accelerating across the portfolio, both would be pretty notable tailwinds to the rent growth side. And it's been fairly stable over the last year. So when you guys look at that, is that simply just supply overwhelming both of those factors? Or

Speaker 2

John, good point on the tailwind factors and all else being equal would result in better performance. And I think that's What's reflected in the revised outlook is we are seeing better performance in the first half really driven by occupancy, a little bit of rate And the second half, a little more on the rate side. So it is leading through in terms of better performance. And so really, you've got better job growth, We did turnover, good wage growth, all those are positive benefits, still meaningful amount of supply, But the supply was known. So it is bleak and true for us in terms of better performance in the first half and what we're expecting in the second half, net led to the revised outlook.

So if that's a part of your question.

Speaker 8

Yes, I think that makes sense. So essentially, there's a lag effect lower than a year ago in all the regions except for Northern California, but you noted that slipped positively for the overall portfolio. Can you give some color at the regional level as well as to how broad based that is as far as the reversal

Speaker 1

of being positive year over year?

Speaker 2

Yes, sure. I'm happy to do a little bit of that. As I mentioned, I mean, when you look at Q2 2018, it's 2.8, Yes. Q2 2017 was 2.9%. So kind of rounding here and there, it's pretty much similar.

In my comments, I mentioned that July is running The rest of the markets when you look through it, in terms of July, what we're experiencing is Modest lift in certain markets like the mid Atlantic, modest lift in Boston, Southern California is at par, New York is a little bit weaker. I don't have that number off the top of my head. So what I'd say is it's relatively Broad days with the exception of a couple of regions, but the order of magnitudes are different. So the order of magnitude is more significant in Northern California and Boston As compared to the other markets, I'd describe it more generally. If you want specific data points, so that going through all the markets, we can try to talk to you offline.

Speaker 8

Okay, perfect. That's helpful for now. And then just one final one on the dispositions in the quarter and then anything that you might be marketing. Can you just talk a little bit about the types of bidders that

Speaker 1

It has been a pretty deep field, I would have to say, pretty robust. Pricing has exceeded our initial expectations probably by maybe 10 basis points on the cap rate from where we We are marketing a couple of West Coast assets now, one of which was It's one of our fund vehicles where it exceeded by more than that. But it's been we sold an asset to Blackstone's multifamily private REIT, we've sold to some private buyers that we've dealt with in the past. There have been some foreign capital buyers pursuing some of these assets that we haven't seen before necessarily on some of the larger assets that are in the mix. So I'd say the field, if anything, is probably a little deeper than it was maybe a year or 2 ago.

Perfect. That's helpful. Thanks, Matt. Thank you, guys. The next question comes from Wes Golladay.

Hi, guys. I just want to go back to that comment about the accelerated rent growth. I want to get your opinion on what is potential drivers of that. You talked about improving demand. But I was also wondering about the impact of having less concessions in the market.

Is that a big factor at all?

Speaker 2

Yes, Wes, this is Sean. I mean, for the most part across our markets, For most of the major public REITs and major private players, concessions aren't used a lot on Existing assets, the more used lease up communities. And for the most part, that's really concentrated in New York, given some of the rent regulations there where Lease ups could offer anywhere from 1 to 3 months of concession, depending on the lease term to establish a relatively high legal rent. And then they build their rent increases off of that. But in terms of concessions, they're pretty de minimis overall.

I mean concessions are certainly down Faraz and I suspect many others, which is helpful as it relates to revenue growth, but it's not a meaningful number relative to Occupancy gains or rate gains overall. So I wouldn't attribute it to that in a meaningful way Maybe what you would be looking for in terms of performance in New York City specifically?

Speaker 1

Yes. Okay. I was looking at more so like maybe having some Private developers being maybe more rational this year, not pressuring the public REITs on new and renewal leasing. And then maybe if I could parlay that with another question, I guess, with supply moving out of peak leasing season, some of us move into 2019, but do you see any Markets where there'd be heavy supply in the second half of the year, maybe in a lower demand season?

Speaker 2

Yes. I mean, the numbers don't move around a lot from quarter to quarter when you look at it. It's a little bit heavier in Q3 3 as compared to Q2 across our footprint for 2018. Q4 is up a little bit from Q3. But for us, the volume of lease expirations during those periods, particularly in Q4, is down quite a bit.

So it doesn't have much of an impact on the rent roll and the revenue Trem, given it's 20% of lease expirations, what you've been through for the 1st 3 quarters kind of baked 80% of the year. So Even if there is some additional softness in certain pockets where there's heavier supply, markets like the district come to mind for me as an example or

Speaker 1

Our next question comes from Richard Hill. Hey, you got Ron Kamdem on the line for Richard. Just going back to the expansion market, you just how should we think about when you're looking at The deals at

Speaker 2

whether Denver or Southern Florida, could

Speaker 1

you just provide some color of some of the deals you may be looking at? What are the cap rates? Is it more deals than you thought, less deals than you thought, so on and so forth? Sure, Ron. This is Matt.

We are certainly looking At both acquisitions and the expansion markets, future development and then as I mentioned also, in some cases, Looking at developments that others might have ready to go where we could capitalize it. It's been very active. And if anything, I would say cap rates are probably down a little bit in both of those markets. What we're finding in Denver, We're probably more interested right now in some of the assets that are a little bit more suburban, where kind of like in our Portfolio in our other markets, there's a little bit less supply and the kind of the risk adjusted return at this particular moment looks more attractive. In the long We'll look to have a diversified portfolio in both of those markets.

But right now, stuff that is Kind of high profile, sexy downtown or in a walkable type Denver location is probably a 4.25 to maybe a 4.5 cap. But in many cases, the assets coming out of lease up are not really stabilized yet or it may be hard to tell because The lease up pace may not be what really would sustain the rents that they're getting. So our view on what that cap rate truly is might be a little lower And some other market participants, in the more suburban locations in Denver, it's probably more like high fours cap rates. And in Southeast Florida, probably similar, a little bit less in the market. It's Not as much trades in Southeast Florida as in Denver, but still an active market.

And kind of similarly there, we're being somewhat focused In terms of select submarkets, those that are less exposed to supply right now. On the development side, we think the yields there are probably comparable to in our markets. And if we do a deal like this deal we're doing in Doral, where we're partnering with a local developer, they're taking the construction risk. For us, we're solving for a yield there that's kind of halfway between the development and acquisition yield because from the list point of view, that's kind of an appropriate allocation of the risk. Got it.

That's helpful. And if I could just go back to the Mid Atlantic region for a second. You talked about on the supply side, but maybe if you can touch on just the jobs outlook, not just this year, but to move into 2019 2020, that would be great.

Speaker 2

Yes, Ron, it's Sean. I mean, the data we have best available right now really reflects what's happened in the first half and projects The second half given the effect of stimulus and things like that that Jim addressed earlier, which is Jeff both Being sort of in the 1.6% range for the full year 2018 as compared to the beginning of the year, which is 1.1%. How long that plays out in In terms of stimulus through text, rare form, blah, blah, blah, all the various factors out there, it's hard to play out. There's certainly a lag effect. Price school is over in 'nineteen, but it would be too premature to speculate on what specific job growth would be in either 'nineteen or 'twenty at

Speaker 1

this point. This is Matt. I guess the one thing I would add to that is as it relates to the D. C. Metro specifically, certainly, the recent budget deal Should lead to an increase in both procurement, which is generally a pretty big driver of the C Metro economy.

I'm not sure we've Seeing that impact yet, but there's certainly a lot of cost count. There could be another government shutdown, that could change. But on the current pace we're at, there does appear to be, From what we've read, kind of a backlog of spending and contracts to be let that could provide a little juice for Northern Virginia and D. C, followed obviously the devil's name, Charles. Got it.

Helpful. Thank you so much. Our next question comes from Daniel Santos.

Speaker 3

Thanks for taking my Question,

Speaker 1

just two quick ones from me.

Speaker 7

I was wondering, I'm sorry

Speaker 2

if you've answered this question already. If you

Speaker 7

could give us some background on the Miami development, how you chose the site and the partner?

Speaker 1

The Doral deal and then I know Sean, you may want to talk about cost and supply a little bit. Again, as I mentioned, we've been looking at sites that are ready to go where somebody else A local developer really starts with the sponsor, the quality of the sponsor, and we've known the folks at TCR for many years and obviously share common heritage if you go back A long, long time. So, have a lot of respect for what they do. This is a site. It's in Doral, which is one of the fastest growing submarkets of suburban Miami.

There is a grocery anchored shopping center, which is part of the project, which is developed by another developer, which will be right at the front door. It's got some marketability. It's 7 story, 8 story, we drive wrap products and structured parking. And it's a submarket that we like long term and a sponsor that we think highly of. And that is again, we'll be looking to do more of that kind of business.

And it's different than what we've done in the past. It's different also in the sense that it doesn't really show up in our pipeline until the deal is ready to go because we're not funding those pursuit costs early. We're not taking that risk. So we've been working on it for probably 6 months, but we didn't commit to it and close until it was all ready to go. There's a third party general contractor, But again, the local developer is providing the completion guarantees to us.

Speaker 2

Yes. As it relates to supply, Dan, Happy to take that as it relates to Boston. So for 2018, supply currently is expected to be about where we thought it They only started the year, which is around 6,200 units, something like that. It's down about 20% from what was delivered last A good percentage of that reduction in deliveries is in sort of the urban markets of Boston, a little bit in the suburbs. As it relates to the outlook for 2019, supply should be running based on what we see today at Pretty similar level to 2018, again around 6,200, 6,300 units.

So relatively stable supply outlook In Boston, kind of moving from submarket to submarket, but in terms of total deliveries down in 2018 relative to last year It looks pretty steady for the next 12 to 18 months in terms of pace of deliveries.

Speaker 1

That's helpful. Our next question comes from Rick Anderson. Hey, good afternoon now. Tim, early on in the Carl, you talked a little bit about what might be

Speaker 2

a short

Speaker 1

term economic Stimulus from all the things that have gone on maybe perhaps into 2019 or through 2019. With that in mind, do you feel If this is an inflection point in terms of fundamentals for your business, do you feel a little bit less sort of sanguine towards it Because of that short term perspective you have and maybe it's prompting you guys to do things before the music stops? Are you equally as optimistic about things relative to past cycles that you've seen as a manager of this company? Yes, Rich. I think that's a good question.

I think you captured it. I think you captured it well. I guess we'd say we're less sanguine At this point, sort of as late in the cycle as we think we are, I mean, you're starting to see areas in the economy where there just isn't much slack. You look at the labor markets, which can be contingent upon labor for participation rates, what you're seeing, unemployment At 4%. And then for college grads, it's almost 0.

I mean, it's literally in the low 2s. So there's not much slack in the labor markets to continue to sort of drive Household formation, I think there is some opportunity still as it relates to household formation as the millennials age. The most recent print on household formation was as strong as we've seen in a while. I think it's you got to take that with a grain of salt. It The number of young adults are living at home as you would expect to go down as the leading edge of that age cohort It starts to vibrate towards their mid-30s and late-30s.

So when you think about inflationary pressures, you look at our business, the construction cost pressures are pretty acute. I don't see them Not so abating, because you've got I mean, you have both the labor side and the material side, and they're both not being held by policy Right now as it relates to tariffs and potential immigration and the impact on skilled labor. So I think there's a lot of reasons to be cautious As it relates to being aggressive in terms of deploying capital in this market, we probably are a bit more cautious than We would be in other points that may be showing some inflection. And would you say that some amount of your kind of Declining development or I should say elevated development risk management process is tied to that shorter term economic perspective as well beyond the construction cost issue or maybe it's all just related to each other? I think it's related.

I think it's something that's been going on really The last 2 or 3 years, I mean, we were much more willing probably through about 2015 to consider taking land inventory in the balance sheet that we felt we could Good introduction over the next year. Today, I'd tell you, we're not that willing. And we're being we're pretty We had one deal in L. A. That we're willing to do that with.

We felt like that market had a little bit more legs than maybe some of our other regions. But And fundamentally, we don't think land markets have adjusted yet. So Yes. Okay. Good enough.

Thank you. All right. Very good. Our next question comes from Tayo Okusanya. Yes, good afternoon.

I'm not I hope you hadn't addressed this yet, but I got on to the call late. Have you talked to So all about just views on cost per Hawkins and kind of progress being made in regards to those In regards to that in California?

Speaker 2

Tyler, we haven't talked about it on the call. Do you have Specific questions around it in terms of Yes.

Speaker 1

And just kind of how you're thinking about some of the momentum behind it about possibly being on the ballot in November and Kind of what are you hearing locally from lobbyists about that and what that potential implications could be?

Speaker 2

Yes. No, Happy to address that. People have been asking about that through other means as well, but particularly around the likelihood of a passing and things of that But I mean trying to give you a specific probability about it passing would be pure speculation on my part and anyone else I think that would We're doing out there. In fact, there are polls out there that offer a wide range of answers. What I'd say is that based on what we know that if You simply ask voters in the state of California if they would support rent control as it relates to controlling housing costs in the state, More than a majority would likely say yes.

Based on what we know to the extent that you Educate voters about what a repeal of Costa Hawkins specifically means, the outcome could be quite different. There's a number of issues associated with Costa Hawkins That voters are being educated about including the impact on homeowners, which represents about 60% of likely voters And putting single family homes at risk regarding rent restrictions and potential reductions in the value of their home Yes. The kind of single family rental market and those buyers, the investor buyer starts to go away because of concern about rent restrictions, as an example. The fiscal impacts, the nonpartisan LIO issued a report recently talking that a repeal could be detrimental to local government Funding, particularly in terms of lost revenue from property taxes associated with single family and cost of administration and All kinds of other things like that. Other issues that are out there relate to the conversion of rentals to for sale product, which happened in San Francisco after the adoption of bank control and there's a number of store studies out there related to that topic.

So There's a lot of different issues that people need to understand as it relates to what Costa Hawkins means, what protections exist today that would potentially go away with the repeal. So What I'd say is the messages are being delivered to voters and probably will be much more so over the next few months here In terms of what the repeal means, and those are the issues that will ultimately drive the potential outcome when we get

Speaker 1

to Election Day. Got you. All right. But again, if it does happen, do you have you guys on any kind of analysis around what kind of impact it could potentially have on your portfolio? Yes.

Speaker 2

I mean, it's very much speculative in terms of what local jurisdictions will do. All we know is based on what's in place today for us, one asset would be impacted by rent control that currently isn't today. Other than that, it's Trying to handicap every jurisdiction and which way they're going to vote in terms of putting a right control measure on the ballot. Is that done through some kind of voter referendum or other means? That's all purely speculation that is really hard to comment or quantify at this point.

Speaker 1

Got you. Okay. Thank you.

Speaker 2

Yes.

Speaker 1

Our final question comes from John Pawlowski. Thanks. Sean, I apologize if I missed some of these components. Could you just quickly run through 2Q new and renewal growth rates as well as early 3Q New renewal and occupancy?

Speaker 2

Yes, John, why don't I give you the Q2 numbers at the regional level, a A lot of that stuff, that's a fair amount of detail. So I want to have Jason follow-up with you on that. I mean, the Q2 Blended rates were included in the supplemental, as you may know, by market and overall, so you can see that. But as it relates to the difference between move in, renewal and blended for the quarter, I could say New England move in I'd like to do move ins

Speaker 1

Sorry, total portfolio will be fine, total portfolio. Total portfolio.

Speaker 2

Yes, total portfolio for Q2 is included in the supplemental, Which is 2.8% blended, 3% on renewals and 1.4% on move ins, if that's what you're looking for specifically. And then July, I mentioned 3.25% blended, which is roughly 4% on renewals and about 2.5% on move ins.

Speaker 1

And occupancy today?

Speaker 2

Occupancy today is running in the low 96% range.

Speaker 1

Thanks a lot. Cool. Thank you, Travis, and thank all of you for being on the call today. I hope you all enjoy the rest of your summer, and we'll see you sometime in the fall. Take care.

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