Hello, everyone. Welcome to our Q3 2022 earnings. Thank you so much for joining us and our executive team today. We hope that you've had a chance to read our shareholder letter at investor. Axon.com.
Our prepared remarks today are meant to build on the information in that robust letter. During this call, we will discuss our business outlook and make forward looking statements. Any forward looking statements made today are pursuant to and within the meaning of the Safe Harbor provision of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These comments are based on our predictions and expectations as of today and are not guarantees of future performance. All forward looking statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially, and we discuss these risks in our SEC filings.
And before we turn the call over to Rick, we will do our investor video.
Welcome back, everyone. This quarter, we are taking you to the Axon booth at the International Association of Chiefs of Police Conference. This is a big customer facing event. We bring our A game to boost our sales pipeline and generate customer enthusiasm for the Let's hear from Andrea, who is there on the ground.
It's great to be back in person for the first time in 3 years. The Axon booth is At, you can really see that Axon is the technology leader. You'll notice there is a giant rocket behind me. Our big theme this year is our moonshot 1st for the youth out there, a quick history lesson.
60 years ago, U. S. President John F. Kennedy rallied the nation behind a mission to go to the moon. Kennedy challenged us not because it was easy, but because it was hard.
And most importantly, he said this was a challenge that we were not willing Postponed. Humankind would go to the moon by the end of the decade. The Apollo 11 moon landing was in 1969. After
We are setting a new moonshot mission, one
that we are also unwilling to postpone.
Will we meet in an hour of change and challenge, In a decade of hope and fear, in an age of both knowledge and ignorance, The greater our knowledge increases, the greater our ignorance unfolds. So it is not surprising That some would have us stay where we are a little longer, to rest, to wait. If this capsule history of our progress teaches us anything, it is that man and his quest for knowledge and progress But why some say the moon? Why choose this as our goal? And they may well ask why climb the highest mountain.
We choose to go to the moon. We choose to go to the moon. We Choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard. Because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our energies and skills, because that challenge And therefore, as we set sail, We ask God's blessing on the most hazardous and dangerous and greatest adventure on which man has ever embarked.
As you can see, we want to cut gun related deaths between police and the public by 50% in the next 10 years. And when we say we, it's with a capital w, meaning all of us, because Axon is partnering with law enforcement, community leaders, And more to rally around this idea and make it happen. This moonshot goal is all about the sanctity of life. Last year in the U. S, More than 60 officers and more than 1,000 civilians died from gunfire during incidents involving the police and the public.
Saving lives and
It is intended to be a driving Like measurable moonshot, it means obviously a big tech project, something that feels like it might even be But we've been doing our homework and we believe after looking at the data that with some focused effort over the next 10 years, we can cut gun related deaths Between police and the public by 50%.
If you're watching this video, you are a part of this mission. Consider yourself recruited. Society doesn't have all the answers yet. This is going to involve diverse perspectives, open dialogue and realistic research based and responsible solutions.
For our part, Axon is committed to investing in better technology,
training and data that will help achieve
Please record your message when you finish. Between law enforcement
and the communities they protect and serve. Axon is investing in non lethal and de escalation tools Tact engagement and feedback solutions and more comprehensive and actionable use of force and response to resistance reporting. We are also funding 3rd party research to provide insights into common contributing factors to gun related deaths between police and the public.
This is big. This is happening. That's a wrap. Our business is solid and our demand outlook remains strong. Angel?
You can read more at investor. Axon
Thank you, Andrea and Angel. Our year to date results are pretty exciting with revenue growth of 32% in the 1st 9 months. So what's the secret sauce that's driving this revenue growth? Josh and Brittany will provide color on the details and we also outlined them for you in our shareholder letter. But at the highest level, we provide products that solve real world problems.
Our solutions work. We make our customers happy. We keep them safe. And the public benefits. So we benefit and our shareholders benefit.
I've been spending a lot of time with customers and communities on our moonshot goal Because helping the public to dream with us deepens our relationships and answers about the broader questions about why we invest in the areas that we do. It also paves a path for us to keep innovating in areas that will make a difference. We have been really heartened by the buy in we've seen on the moonshot, Bringing together groups that you don't normally see alongside each other. These include the Fraternal Order of Police, the African American Mayors Association, The Major County Sheriffs of America, the National Organization of Black Law Enforcement Executives and the National Policing Institute to name just a few. A common reaction I've been getting about our Moonshot goal is, well, this all sounds great, but how are you going to do this?
Look, we don't have all the specific answers just yet. Just like when Jack Kennedy challenged the nation to put a human on the moon, Not all the tech existed yet, but we have a good idea of where Axon can invest to move the needle. Using technology to solve deeply entrenched challenges is why I founded the company and why we're here today. Axon has been and will continue to double down on our investment in things like number 1, non lethal tools such as our enormously successful TASER platform. We believe the majority of TASER adoption remains in front of us.
We're still under 10% penetrated in terms of our global TAM. And we're working on some really exciting technology over the next 10 years to help hit our goal. Number 2, virtual reality. We're seeing a lot of interest in our VR training, which we sell on a subscription to customers. Number 3, cameras and sensors that never miss a moment.
Over the next few years, you're going to see us introduce next generation body cameras and we'll deepen the tie between our real time operations and our devices, Which brings me to number 4, real time and remote response. The public safety sector deserves Public safety grade communications tools that are as easy to use as consumer technology. They deserve better situational awareness And it will help them improve their decision making and their ability to respond effectively. Also, we believe that remote response can limit human exposure to danger. Our thinking is that removing the officer from harm's way leads to safer outcomes for everyone.
And this is why we're investing in Axon Air, Our drone solutions as a first responder as well as counter drone technology. Number 5, we're investing in community impact, Engagement feedback tools such as My90, which is a tuck in acquisition we completed last year of a company that essentially Allows the public and rank and file officers to anonymously deliver feedback to police leadership. This tool is already helping police departments deepen trust with their communities. Number 6, we're investing in more comprehensive and actionable response to resistance reporting. This includes both traditional use of force and de escalation data.
Data collection tools today either don't exist Or they don't talk with each other very well or the data is just not collected in a way that's very useful. We believe the public is hungry for better data, Especially on incidents involving its support. And we believe we can meet this need and we need this data to reach our moonshot. Now we know the moonshot goal will not be easy, but we also know that the private sector and companies like Axon have a unique role to play. As I look at our team, which includes leaders like Josh and Britney, I'm confident that they'll be sure we continue to invest prudently With a high degree of accountability to all of our stakeholders, driving a business model that creates impressive value creation, Solves some of the most challenging problems facing modern society and delivers great shareholder returns.
So with that, I'm going to turn it over to Josh.
Thanks a lot, Rick. During last quarter's call, I
During last quarter's call, I mentioned that the primary thing we can control is where we collectively focus our attention. Our sights remain set on continued top line growth, which I will address, and margin expansion over the long term, which Brittany will cover. We are increasingly confident that we can do both well in parallel. On the top line, we are very pleased with quarterly revenue of 34% And our Q4 outlook for 40% growth at the midpoint. We're having a strong year, and we are seeing a Strengthening of demand across all product lines.
Brittany will unpack the revenue growth in the quarter for you shortly, but I'd like to take a moment to touch upon What we believe will sustain healthy growth rates of 20 plus percent for the years to come. We're growing along 2 axes. The first is expanding our product suite for existing customers. Both Rick in the shareholder letter talked about a product roadmap where we believe we can continue to deliver premium solutions to customers at a compelling value proposition for them. We want to make it super clear that our state and local law enforcement business is nowhere near saturated.
We see a long and wide runway for continued growth. We believe that in the next 5 years, you will see Axon emerge as the leading Operating system for public safety, strengthened by our strategy of focusing on the customer experience and not cobbling together point solutions That don't work well together, which is the current state of the industry outside of Axon. The second axis is diversifying into new markets by both adding new types of customer profiles or users and by adding to our core customer base. You can think of our core customers as falling into roughly 4 categories of funding sources: the U. S.
State and local governments, The U. S. Federal government, international government customers and commercial enterprises. Simultaneously, The types of users we are adding to our platforms is expanding beyond law enforcement. We are adding attorneys, fire and EMS personnel, Corrections and the U.
S. Military and the funding for those types of users generally rolls up into the 4 sources I mentioned. I'd like to update you on 2 of those 4. First, our progress with the U. S.
Federal government and second, touch upon international growth. We are very excited about our U. S. Federal government business. In the 1st 3 quarters of 2022, the federal government has booked contracts exceeding $200,000,000 Up from an approximate $15,000,000 to $20,000,000 run rate just a few years ago.
Annual revenue has grown to the tens of 1,000,000 And our deliverables now extend over the next several years. Our progress with the federal government is a direct result of our intentional investments in both sales channel and product. We have been building trusted relationship with agencies that are now finding value in our products and missions and our commitment to helping them be successful. And while we can't necessarily name all of those customers, The breadth and depth of the federal government's interest in our entire product line continues to excite us. And now turning toward global expansion, we continue to refine our international go to market strategy.
We see 2 things as being the drivers and even the accelerators to international growth. The first is continuing to innovate on our TASER platform. We believe the total TASER installed base has room to grow by more than 5 times over time. And as we continue to develop technology that potentially matches a pistol in terms of stopping power, we think we have the opportunity to become the primary defense weapon in several international markets. The second thing we are focusing on is helping European customers overcome their historical resistance to cloud solutions.
This is a playbook we ran in the U. S. Starting in around 2012. Domestic state and local customers at first were very averse to Cloud hosted software, and we successfully evangelized the cloud to build a business that now tops $400,000,000 in annual recurring revenue. We are starting to chip away at cloud acceptance in the EU, and we see European governments starting to adopt other commercial services for cloud, And we believe that this bodes well for our international SaaS business.
Just like in the U. S, once we overcome that initial aversion, Strong adoption of Evidence Management will follow. Finally, last quarter, I told you that I am working on building the team that Axon needs for the next 5 to 10 years. We are thrilled to introduce Brittany Bagley as our Chief Financial Officer and Chief Business Officer. She brings a wealth of experience, not only as a public company CFO, but also as a seasoned board member and investor in the technology segment.
We sought to attract an executive who brings a next play mindset, versatility, mental toughness And a strong capability to deliver outsides outcomes. And we are excited that Britney brings all of those qualities To Axon. Based on working with Britney over the last 40 days, I can say with confidence and excitement that the future of Axon's Core strategic and financial functions is very, very bright. I'll hand it over to Britney.
Thank you, Josh. Hi, everyone. I'm thrilled to be on my first official Axon earnings call. I want to start with a big thank you to the team for making it such a great quarter and to Jim Zito for doing such a nice job in the Interim CFO role. It's an exciting time to have joined such an incredible company.
I'd like to share a little about why I joined and where you'll see me put my over the coming quarters. While there were many reasons to join, three main ones that I would like to highlight include the strong leadership team, the company's inspiring mission to protect life and the compelling business model. On that last one especially, I think the combination of the hardware ecosystem the company has been building, along with innovative software solutions, creates a powerful flywheel that is both high growth and profitable, which provides a relatively rare position in the technology world. Additionally, delivering mission critical products to public safety customers who purchase on long term contracts makes Axon's revenue both recurring and dependable. As Josh discussed, we continue to have a lot of growth in front of us, and I look forward to supporting our mission and a profitable growth trajectory.
To that point, My areas of focus will be on helping the team continue to execute and deliver strong results over the next several years. As both CFO and Chief Business Officer, I get to take a strategic and holistic view of the business to ensure we're making the right long term decisions to deliver on our mission and our financial promise. Near term, that means spending time better understanding Axon's gross margin potential and how I can help move the needle on other metrics we care about, including overall profitability and cash flow. We see opportunities to improve gross margin by investing in automation, driving manufacturing efficiency and improving fixed cost absorption as we scale. Driving the revenue mix further towards software is also a key gross margin lever over the longer term.
We are also focusing on controlling OpEx by enhancing financial discipline, while still investing in research and development and sales channel expansion to support future growth. In addition to leaning in on operational areas of the business, I am also focused on helping to deliver upon its strategic ecosystem vision, leveraging partnerships, investments and M and A to truly become the leading technology hub for Public Safety. Turning now to the quarter. Our domestic business grew 37% year over year in Q3 and continues to make up more than 80% of our revenue. This strength came across the board, supporting strong TASER segment growth at 19%, along with Great Software and Sensors segment growth at 51%, which was driven by Sensors growth of 51% And Axon Cloud Growth also at 51%.
One of the great things we're seeing domestically is Strong demand for the premium versions of our products and bundles. Beyond the strength in our core business and the traction we're seeing on our software and cloud revenue, We continue to be excited about other areas of growth, including our international business, which delivered 20% growth in Q3. We had a strong Q3 gross margin of 62%, which represented more than 100 basis points of sequential improvement. The increase was primarily due to the strength of Axon Cloud and the overall product mix in the quarter. Axon Cloud gross margin in Q3 benefited from our new long term contract with Microsoft Azure.
While this benefit will continue, We also have low to no margin professional services costs, which supports the setup of these contracts and the mix can change quarter to quarter. That doesn't change our view on exceeding the long term target of 80% plus for the software business, but we do expect quarterly variations as a result. In addition to the sequential gross margin improvement, the strong top line revenue allowed us to achieve good operating leverage in the quarter and resulted in adjusted EBITDA of $68,000,000 or 21.7 percent margin. Finally, I wanted to touch on our outlook. Given the strong quarter, we are raising our annual revenue guidance to a range of $1,150,000,000 to 1,160,000,000 which reflects about 34% annual growth at the midpoint.
This also implies Q4 annual revenue growth of 40% at the midpoint. Turning to our adjusted EBITDA. We are raising our outlook from $200,000,000 to a range of $215,000,000 is expected to be in the range of $49,000,000 to $54,000,000 Implied margins are down slightly sequentially from Q3 on product mix and less OpEx leverage, but remain strong overall with an almost an 18% EBITDA margin implied at the midpoint for the year. We are proud of our performance and outlook, and they speak to the bigger picture that Rick and Josh talked about, which is the overall strength of the business we are building. We look forward to delivering another strong Q4 and setting ourselves up well for 2023 as we execute against our financial objective of profitably delivering a 20% plus top line CAGR going forward.
With that, I would like to open it up to questions. Back to Andrea. Thank you. And we have you all in the queue. So if you're on the call, Soon, we've got you in the queue.
Thank you so much. We'll take our first question from Josh Riley at Needham. Go ahead, Josh.
All right. Thanks for taking my questions. Very impressive results here in the quarter. I guess maybe starting off, you had a pretty significant revenue beat here obviously. How much of a tailwind are you seeing Now from stimulus government funds from programs like the ARPA beginning to hit budgets or is that something that you see more of as And impacting 2023 and the beat in Q3 is driven more by budgets that haven't been impacted to date by those budgets.
Yes. I don't Josh, I appreciate the question and nice to see you again. I don't necessarily think there's a ton of correlation Our momentum and results in any one time or kind of recurring government subsidy for these products. I think ultimately, we're building a very strong business where there's a very high ROI on our products and our customers continue to see that And not only buy more of them, but buy more and more premium levels and licenses. And so while those are nice moment in time types of tailwinds for some customers.
I don't think they have any major implication on our continued growth and we're very confident that Independent of those factors, we're building a very strong and consistent business.
Got it. That's super helpful. And then The TASER gross margin was down sequentially and remains probably below where you guys wanted. I know that's a focus now for Britney as you're evaluating cost there. But was there anything specific in the quarter that brought the margin down sequentially?
Or any color there would be helpful. Yes.
I would say that we have been investing in everything related to our manufacturing capacity as well as supply chain for the TASER. And so you have seen that impact the gross margin this quarter and a little bit year to date. I think it will be one of the big areas of focus as we look to improve gross margins is making sure we can really scale into those costs and scale as we get leverage on gross margin over time.
Got it. Thanks, guys. Congrats again.
Thanks. Next question from Jonathan Ho at William Blair. Go ahead, Jonathan.
Thank you. Let me echo my congratulations as well. I wanted to start out with your commentary around sort of the higher end bundles and maybe customer behaviors that are leading to more selection of that Higher end bundle. I just want to understand sort of why you're seeing this behavior and whether you expect it to persist.
Yes, certainly, John. And I think the first thing I'd say on those bundles is even though we're seeing a lot of demand, there's a ton of white space ahead of us In terms of adoption of those bundles, especially in state and local. And it's really driven by the adoption is driven by the idea that In those bundles, we're adding more and more value added add ons. And so Jeff's team is doing a fantastic job Standing. Hey, sorry,
I accidentally called you back.
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Go on.
The I think Jeff's team is Doing a great job understanding some of what the customers are wanting in future releases of our products and then going back and building those things that are highly valuable. An example of that is transcription and another example is VR, both of which exist in our more premium A version of the Officer Safety Plan and that's driving a lot of customers toward those bundles. And so we'll continue to iterate on that strategy and make sure that The things that are the most highly valued in tandem with our core products appear in bundles in a way that make the customer Excited about the potential of buying all of these items and features at one time and one license.
And Josh, I would add in as well, what I'm seeing with customers, I haven't I can't think of a customer that's been like gone up to a premium bundle and then gone down the other direction That the more stuff they use from us, the more value they see in it. And there is sort of this flywheel effect Well, what I'm hearing from customers is they just want to put more of their solution set with Axon. They struggle with technology. They're hamstrung by really long complex procurement rules that make it very difficult for them to be agile in what they're doing. And so I think we've earned their trust and it's really incumbent on us to keep earning it every day.
So we don't break this dynamic. But it does seem to me They're pretty consistently moving up the ladder each time we launch something that integrates with the other stuff. It's paying off that it's working well. And again, a lot of that just goes to awesome execution of Jeff and the product team.
Excellent, excellent. And just as a follow-up, with the U. S. Fed opportunity, U. S.
Federal Government opportunity, what's, I guess been most impactful in terms of helping you break into this market. I mean, obviously, it's been a target for a number of years, but it seems like Things have improved from a step function perspective. What initiatives or what level of education do you have to sort of provide to kind of Further into the U. S. Fed opportunity.
Thank you.
So I'll start and then maybe hand back over to Josh. I think investing to get Pegram Accreditation for the evidence.com system early. It was a bit of a bet when we did it, right? It was expensive. It was Difficult to invest in that.
And I think to this day, we're still the only FedRAMP Accredited certified system and all these federal agencies that want to use the cloud. That obviously gives us a tremendous Advantage and then we've obviously seen things like the Biden administration moving towards standardization with IBM cameras. That and then Richard Coleman, who we hired a few years ago, has really, I think, just done a great job building out a team that really understands the federal And it's going to be some fantastic relationships.
Yes. I'd just add to that, Rick, especially on the last point. For us, every problem starts with how do we build a Strong team full of subject matter experts that we can trust their instincts and And when we brought Richard in, that was 25 years into our business and we hadn't quite cracked the code on how to run A growing federal business and just bringing him on along with a very talented team With him as well as more and more product focus has just unlocked this amazing opportunity. And even though we've had a phenomenal year and A literal 10x in bookings at this point in the last few years. We still think we're very much on our own side of the field and have a long way to go to maximize the full opportunity across federal, but we really believe we have the team in place to do that.
Thank you.
Thanks guys. Next question, Eric Lipinski. Go ahead, Eric. And from Morgan Stanley. Thanks, Eric.
Thanks guys. I maybe want to just follow-up a little bit on the federal side because it looks like at least the deal with the veteran affairs was pretty comprehensive across The product portfolio, whereas I know you're in other federal agencies, maybe with some products, but not all of them. I guess just would be curious on that, like as you're moving into newer federal agencies, do you see the opportunity for more of a sizable kind of across the spectrum deal up Ron, I maybe hadn't seen one that included fleet previously. So it would be good to just kind of understand the vision there that some federal customers are having and And kind of if you are seeing more of that.
Let me start first and then I know Josh is going to want to talk to this too. I would say this is where we see the advantage. We talked about being a mission focused business and a lot of times that can sound like puffery or Kind of fluff, but it really is true. We are running this business to solve problems we're passionate about. And of course, we also want to run a rigorous business where we have financial models that make sense, but the finances come from the problems we solve.
And infusing that in every employee, right, I'm just so impressed with the team and the attitude they've got where It's all about keeping our customers productive and safe and happy. And we really give a lot of latitude to our teams to make things right. And where that pays off is, we don't think of these as just contracts we're going to sell and make a few bucks and move on to the next one. And so we get phenomenal customer references and the investments we make in really delivering a great product to the end user, not focusing on on winning the bid at RFP sort of bureaucratic process, I think builds the types of things where you see these relationships where people Even relatively early on, they're cross checking with their other agency customers that are similar and they're getting the confidence give us a large part of their technology ecosystem. So I think that's the underlying thing is the focus of the team on really Passion around the business to build things that really delight and protect our customers that give customers the confidence to go do that.
I'll turn it over to Josh to maybe give a little more color to the federal specifically.
I think Jeff was going to chime in first, Rick.
Yes, sure. I totally echo everything Rick said. And then combined with that, you heard us talk a lot, whether it's Margins are in many other places about scale and our flywheel and leverage over time. But in the way we invent and deliver Our products for customers as we do these market segments expansion, the same thing is true there as well, because you can think of leverage where we've spent a decade on our core, DEMs and cameras products and then even longer on TASER. And at this point, even internally, what we have is small Surgical dedicated parts of our engineering team for these expansion markets like federal who can inherit All of the common aspects of those products that are already fit for purpose for all segments we're competing in, But then overlay on top of that in a very focused way what our federal customers need to tailor those existing products And then over time, as that keeps getting even more and more large and well situated, you'll see us build bespoke products that might be first For Federal after we've earned the right by building out those sockets with loyalty to the products that we already had.
And I'd just add finally, I think, to your question about fleet specifically, Eric, in federal. I think it's just an example of, in Some cases, we'll have 1 or 2 products off the bat that are nice fits for the customer and will land and expand for lack of a better term from there. And then there'll be other customers that see the value across the board in terms of what we offer And want to engage in a more extensive contract upfront. I think we still maintain the belief that either way, Longer term, the customer ends up in the same place, which is very happy with Axon's full suite of products. And the VA is a great example of Agency that trusts us on day 1 to deliver all of it and in some cases we'll see that same phenomenon over time.
Awesome. Thank you. That's really helpful. And maybe if I could just sneak in a follow-up, but more focused on Records. It looks like in the release At this point, you kind of have 40 agencies and 12 doing a full replacement.
Just as we think about obviously a full replacement A very intensive workload. How much are you being relied on for that type of work? And do you see the Opportunity to potentially streamline that or build software around it over time that makes it kind of the records and just to understand Maybe some of the timelines you're seeing with those 12.
Sure. I'll take that. So like we said, we're I think Like you see when you talk to anyone in the industry, we remain these are big complex Deployments just like ERP systems and things like that. And there's nothing that will ever change the fundamental physics, but those are big complex Systems because they have big complex work to do, but we are we remain extraordinarily optimistic And confident in our long term trajectory and growing our leadership position in this segment. But we're approaching it in, we think, a humble and disciplined way, One deployment at a time.
And as you heard us share, we are both continuing to go up into the right steadily In agencies adopting records overall and for their full deployments and our ability to Continue to scale out the number of those that we're working on simultaneously and the amount of bespoke work per each successive deployment. Both of those are going in the right direction. And so I think you'll see continued steady and accelerating momentum there, but we also Are not going to get over our skis and B2 chess BD before we've earned it.
Awesome. Thanks. Congrats on another good quarter.
Thank you. Keith Housum at Northcoast. Keith, you're up.
Can I try to unmute myself here? Guys, again, I'll echo everybody else's saying during the phenomenal quarter. But as we look at some of the individual results, Axon Fleet sales were down 15% for our prior year and Axon Dot was down as well. Could the quarter have even been even better? I'm assuming if you had access to some of the, I guess, materials you've got a lot of there, I guess, perhaps provide a bit of color on Some of those 2 specific items that did not perhaps do as well some of the other items in your portfolio?
Yes, certainly, Keith. And I don't necessarily want to speculate on what the quarter We're really proud of where we landed, but I think it is an indicator that the future looks bright for a variety of reasons, including increased fleet shipments. We did run into 1 or 2 minor items with the hubs that power our fleet unit from our supplier. But the good news is in Q4, you'll see that demand rebound substantially, and we expect to see our best ever Shipment of fleet quarter of shipments for fleets specifically in Q4 and the strong demand continues Well into the future there, and we're very excited to continue to build on our market lead in that product line.
Great. This is my follow-up, but maybe Britney, I'll put you on the hot seat here for your first time. As we talk about the moonshot goal, how does that fit into Axon's, I guess, existing R and D budget and the financial profile.
Yes. I mean, I think the way We philosophically think about it is that we can achieve both really healthy top line growth and head towards that moonshot and do that profitably and have a really nice bottom line as part of the business. And so To your point, that will be a balance for us as we go forward. But of course, with our growth, not going to stop innovating. We're not going to stop investing in R and D.
We're not going to stop coming up with great new products. And so it's just that a lot of those will be focused on helping achieve that mission, but all inside the financial profile that we think is the right long term profile for the
So I guess I see it in our way. You don't necessarily see a significant expense increase for R and D as a result of this large goal. No,
there's nothing specifically we're calling out on that. I do think we will continue to invest in R and D and we've been consistent on I'm saying that, but this wouldn't necessarily change that profile in a way we're calling out today. Thank Sami Badri at Credit Suisse. Go ahead, Sami.
All right. Thank you. My first question was on the 20% annualized growth target. I was hoping to kind of give us an idea on how you're going to get there either by new subscriptions, existing subscriptions that are seeing some price increases as a function of new features. May you could kind of give us an idea on the composition of that 20% growth.
And then my second question is on CapEx. It looks like your guidance was reduced for the year. Could we just go through the puts and takes on that, please?
Sure. I'll start with the Revenue growth question and then hand it over to Britney for the CapEx question. I think, Sami, there's one of the beauties of our business and business model is there's a lot of different ways we can achieve And it's not one specific thing. I think there are some of the things you mentioned are very much in play. We'll continue to invest in new products that delight customers and cause customers want to buy more at higher pricing tiers and more Premium bundles.
But I think it really boils down to 2 specific things. 1 is, we're going to do a really good job of building new products For our existing customer base, meaning state and local U. S. Especially, how do we introduce new products into that base. And the second one is applying existing products to newer markets like international, Federal and enterprise.
And we really believe we're doing those things well in parallel, and we'll do them even better in parallel next year. And of course, by doing so, that Opens up kind of growth opportunity on both of those axes. So I'll probably leave it at that for now and hand it over to Britney for the CapEx question.
Thanks, Josh. I mean, I think the only thing I would add is, I think it's exciting how many levers I see the business having in terms of where and how it can grow. There's an enormous amount of opportunity. So now you have to focus and make sure you're executing against them and going after the right ones, but the opportunity is there. I think from a CapEx standpoint, what we just highlighted is We are making some CapEx investments this year and some of those are getting really pushed out to next year.
It's more of a timing piece than a fundamental change in strategy.
Got it. I have one more question and it's mainly on working capital And just inventory, do you foresee inventory levels just consistently stepping up from now all the way perhaps maybe until the end of 2020 3, just a function of supply chains and components and all those other factors that are essentially increasing inventory levels?
So I'd say there's 2 things right now that are driving our inventory investments. 1 is, we are still not out of supply chain challenges. So we still have products that are supply constrained that we would like to get back in Stock on and get to a better inventory position. And then I think too just with the types of growth we're seeing Across some of our products, we need to continue to invest in inventory to support that top line growth. So I do think you'll continue to see that be just a strategic area of investment.
I think at the same time, One of the things I talked about is really making sure we are doing a good job with our free cash flow. And so as we get to 'twenty three, we'll have to work to make sure we're appropriately balancing strong free cash flow generation with making sure we have that inventory we need to support the top line.
Got it. Thank you.
Thank you. Paul Chung with JPMorgan. Go ahead.
Hey, guys. Can you hear me? Yes. Okay. So, just another follow-up on the free cash flow.
So you're putting up record numbers here And have kind of seen free cash flow conversion surge as well. So talk about how the firm has driven the higher conversion. Is this kind of sustainable here?
I think it's been a big area of focus. The team has done a nice job specifically stepping up what they've been doing from a collection standpoint and paying more attention to our accounts receivable. And so that's a lot of what gets us, I think, as we go through the rest of the year to our free cash flow targets. And again, I think it's just, of course, we need to balance with our inventory investments and making sure we're in the right place from that standpoint, making sure From a CapEx standpoint, we're investing in the business where we need to invest in the business, but there should be some good free cash flow characteristics that we can continue to
Okay, great. And then just a follow-up on the investments you're pursuing. We saw a lot of that at the show. So Were you seeing some momentum across your investments? What can really become more material over time?
What do you get excited about on the investments Sure.
Yes. Well, I'll start and then and maybe I'll let Jeff jump in a little bit. But I get excited in a couple of places. 1, There really is this incredible ecosystem that the company has created where the hardware and the software have a flywheel to benefit each other. You heard us talking about how more customers are buying the premium parts of our business.
And so That's really proving out the software. And so I get excited that we can make investments in partnerships that continue to drive that ecosystem. At the same time, with my CFO hat, we're going to be thoughtful and we're going to be disciplined about where and how we invest. But I really do think we have a unique opportunity in front of us with that as a lever to continue to pull things in. And I think what's great is The more you can bundle some of these products together, the more powerful each one is.
And so, it's just Great opportunity there. But Jeff, I know you spend a lot of time thinking through the ecosystem and products and where we should make investments. So if you want to add anything.
Sure. Absolutely. Thanks, Britney. Again, thanks for the question. Yes, I think of it, of course, very similarly.
I think kind of 3 core areas. 1, as Josh said earlier and Rick alluded to in people not stepping down, the power Of our bundles, I sort of belay my own Amazon roots and the power of things like Prime or other similarly situated models. The fact is that giving customers for
a fair price that
they already think is a great for a fair price that they already think is a great deal even for a subset of the benefits that they already know they want to use. And then once they've done that, they have access to at what feels like free to them, an additional and steadily growing set Product benefits that just light up. In fact, just today, I was talking with one of my team members who was at one of our major Citi customers who's already in a particular Level of our bundles, but they weren't using performance, for example, and they had been approached by another company with a Standalone product at IACP and then we helped them realize and remember that they had access to performance And boom, they instantly started using it and now they're more excited about the bundle than ever. I think the second across our ecosystem, as you've heard Andrea and all of us talk about, is not just our own first party products, but more and more and more The story or the narrative or the idea of the Axon network is becoming more and more tangibly real as customers Have and use both our own products and our partners' products, whether that's Block or Fusus or DroneSense or D Yes, it's great that they can sometimes buy those on one piece of paper, but the actual products themselves Light up in ways that weren't were just moments in a video demo vision idea not too long ago, And now they're real.
And then the third that gets me excited about in our own products is more and more of these magical connections and leverage from our Software services adding value to our hardware, even once that hardware has already been deployed. And the two greatest examples of that are Respond. And so the many, many, many hundreds of thousands of our AV3 body cameras that are now have respond paid licenses Connected with them and those agencies using those real time connected features of Respond, which is both a paid add on and great value And ALPR as a software connection to Fleet 3 and the absolute peanut butter and chocolate combination that our Customers are finding of having both the world's best hands down standalone in car camera system, but that being connected to the world's best Cloud powered, democratized access price point and ethically designed ALPR system. So it's those connections, Both inside our first party products and across us and our partners' products. That's super exciting for me.
Great. Thank you. Very helpful.
I love it. Will Power at Baird. Go ahead, Will. You are up.
Okay, great. Thanks. I guess a couple of questions. First one is probably for Josh, maybe Jeff, but Nice acceleration in the software revenue in the quarter. I guess I'd love to get any other cover around the key drivers of that.
How much of that's tied to OSP 7 plus adoption, attorneys and DIMMs. I mean, what's kind of leading to that acceleration point you've seen last few quarters?
Yes, certainly. Will, nice to see you again. I think it's really just a combination of a few things, driving more users to our more premium licenses, Expanding our user base to more software only use cases outside of kind of core state mobile. You mentioned attorneys, That's certainly a big one and there are others along that same realm. And then just increased overall adoption across evidence.com, even within state and local, we continue to add new users every quarter, and we see some of that also in federal and international and enterprise as well.
So Goes back to really focusing on selling more into our existing markets and then opening up new markets in parallel. And That's one of the places we're seeing some of the result. And of course, there's a lot more work to do there as well.
Okay. And then maybe just a second question for Britney, just as we look at margins, EBITDA margins going forward, I know you touched on it, it sounds like you Expected EBITDA margins dip in Q4. I guess it would be great to get any additional color there is going to be higher revenue that I think at least We were modeling previously, obviously, down from Q3, are there seasonal issues there? Q3 obviously helped was helped by the outperformance on the revenue side. But then I guess in tandem with that, just your broader thought process on EBITDA margin expansion over the next few years, once you move into 'twenty three, What does that kind of comp look like relative to 'twenty two?
Any other kind of framework you can help us with there?
Yes. So I think a couple of things going on In Q4, our we talked about having slightly less leverage on our OpEx. We do continue to invest in OpEx as we head into the Q4 of the year. We have also talked a little bit about how It's still a very positive margin for the overall year, so we'll get to almost 19% EBITDA margins, but I think if you look at sort of last year to this year, what you really saw was Gross margins came down year over year and that's a lot of what was impacting our EBITDA margins year over year. So we actually have managed to get some OpEx leverage if you look at some of those numbers.
And so as we look and Start thinking about what is that going to be like in the future. It's one of the main reasons that I'm really starting by digging into gross margins and where can we get Some continued leverage in gross margins that all can then flow through to the bottom line and support what we come out with in terms of longer term EBITDA targets. We'll have more for you on 2023 when we get to our Q4 earnings call, but really looking forward to digging in there and being able to provide some more of that color.
Thank you.
Thank you. Jeremy Hamblin at Craig Hallum. Go ahead.
Thank you.
Congrats. Brittney, I want to follow-up on that last point actually. So gross margin performance was pretty solid in the quarter, especially with A lot of the revenue upside tied to AV3 cameras. And Now that you've had a obviously still getting familiar with the company and the opportunities and so forth, But I sense that there is a notable tone change in terms of opportunity on gross margin And that that may be like a key focus on a go forward basis of where there's opportunity. So I wanted to get a sense for the timing of, well, A, how much low hanging fruit you think there is, Because maybe if you're going to gain 500 basis points, how much of that is easy and how much of it is you're going to have to work hard?
So I wanted to get a sense of how much opportunity you think there is overall? And then also the timing What you think if again, I'm just throwing something out there, but how much of the gains you think could happen in the next 18 to 24 months versus a 5 or 6 year slot.
Yes. No, appreciate the question. I mean, I would say I think that the business has been well run. And so I wouldn't say there's Any glaring low hanging fruit, but I would also say it's a business that's come through many of the supply well, it's still Many of the ongoing supply chain challenges, so the company has been paying PPD and having to invest in manufacturing capacity and automation and all things, I think, that have been capacity and automation and all things I think that have been talked about, but should start to see some benefits Going forward, as we continue to grow, as we continue to get scale on some of those investments, hopefully, as we get to a more normalized supply You saw the growth in software, which is higher margin for us. So that product mix is very important going forward.
I think all of those things are the things that we're going to need to do to drive gross margin improvement.
Okay. And in a similar vein then, in terms of I'd also sense that maybe Your OpEx growth might also be there's been a lot of investment over the last few years. And a lot of that was new product rollout and not that you're not still iterating from there, but It does I do get the sense that now you're going to mature or realize some of the opportunities in those business that It's taken 4 or 5 years to lay the foundation and start to see a little scale. Is that a correct read that Obviously, continue to invest, but maybe the rate of growth in your OpEx might be a little bit lower than what it's been in the last few years.
I mean, I think that we're certainly looking to get some good OpEx leverage as we continue to grow. But I also I don't want to leave you with the impression that we're not going to continue to invest in that growth because the opportunity in front of us is just So enormous that you should all want us to be investing behind going after that. And so I think we're going to continue to be really Thoughtful about where we do that and make sure we're getting a good return on those investment dollars, but both from an R and D standpoint and then Some of these new channel opportunities are big and you're starting to see that pay off in federal. And so we would like to keep doing that and keep driving that Top line growth, just doing that profitably and making sure that there's a good balance there and a good focus on really getting return for the dollars we're investing.
Great.
Thanks so much for the color.
Thank you. We'll go a couple of minutes over. Eric Suviger at JMP. Go ahead.
Yes. Thanks for taking the question. On the international front, can you talk a little bit about kind of the Near term strategy, I'm not sure if there's a timeline associated with the 5x Opportunity that you envision there, but can you talk a little bit about kind of your lead products and how you're going to develop the international markets?
Sure. I think, generally speaking, the focus, Eric, is really to land with one product, whether it's on the CEW side, the video side, Interview room, in card video, any of our digital evidence management products. And there, we'll bet on ourselves to continue to grow The adoption and numbers and volume of that one product, but we'll also Grow the adoption and volume of other products along the way. So right now, we still remain focused on Doing everything we can to grow in the UK and Canada and Australia being our Tier 1 international markets, But also just finding one product to fit in all of these other large national police forces and from there supplement with our additional products. And I think it's working well.
We've seen a lot of interesting TASER adoption this year in markets where we haven't really participated before, But we also see a tremendous pipeline going into next year and the year after, not only across TASER, but across body cams and cloud. So We're very excited about the prospects of international and it's really about that land and expand strategy that we talked about earlier in the call.
Let me jump in and help there too. I think in particular, this moonshot, right, One can look at that and say, okay, well, how do I tie that back to the financial returns of the company? And what we're trying to do is Push ourselves not to just think of, in particular, the TASER as a product that we're going to incrementally keep making marginally better than the last version. But how do we obsolete the bullet? How do we become the primary defensive weapon and one that doesn't kill?
When we do that, we will move the TASER from a Specialist item that a few officers or a specialized team may have to where every officer is going to need 1. Now in the United States, Police will carry a taser on one hip and a gun on the other. In most international markets, we don't see that dynamic happen where That's seen as I think maybe a more American approach to carry both devices. When we Start to approach the stopping power and reliability of a pistol with a non lethal weapon. I think that will be a game changer where No, not in the United States.
United States has unique challenges because of the gun culture broadly in the country. Perhaps we're going to need to carry both for quite some time. But if you think about France, Germany, Spain, a good international country where officers are routinely wearing handguns. If we can give them something that's Similar in performance stopping power, I think we'll see those countries potentially shift to where a TASER energy weapon could become their primary device And suddenly we go from 5%, 10% of a police force to approximating 100%. So I think that sort of thinking is going to pay off And really breakout moments of growth for us, particularly in the international space.
So and then the other piece is the cloud. We are hammering away. It's taken longer than I thought it would in Europe in particular to get acceptance to the cloud over the same objections we saw in the U. S. A decade ago.
We're seeing some bright spots, some signs of light. And I think if we get 1 or 2 leading customers to crack and Broom the cloud is safe that we'll start to see the dam break there as well. So I'm particularly excited about the international opportunities led by TASER and cloud.
Does the TASER take time? You had talked about the moonshot and getting to the point where it starts to obsolete the bullet. Does that imply that the lead product would be the sensors and the DEMS until the TASER starts reaching that level or what How do you think between those 2?
Well, I'd say in many markets, the TASER is already a lead product. It tends to bring us I think into more markets because of its unique value proposition. But I think that will accelerate as we Continue to step up its capability to move from a specialist capture tool to a highly reliable personal defense system. I don't know if you want to make any additional commentary, Josh.
I think that covers it, Rick.
All right.
We'll take questions from one more analyst and then Rick will close us out. Logan Hennen from Northland Securities Europe.
Thank you and congrats again on another great quarter. So with our first question, we are hoping that you guys could shed a little light around what percentage of sales is currently coming from the federal government And how do you guys expect that to change come fiscal year 'twenty three and 'twenty four?
Yes. Logan, I appreciate the question and thanks a lot. I don't know that we're Going to go into that level of detail right now. I'd say our focus in federal continues to remain on growing bookings and total contract value With the expectation is that flows to the top line in revenue, not only upfront as those contracts are signed, but over time. But at this point, we're not To break out federal revenue and maybe we will reassess later, but at the moment, we're going to stick with the way we're reporting it.
Okay. Yes, understandable. And then so our next question is, what should we anticipate for Q4 bookings? What have you guys kind of noticed so far? And do you expect that to be the highest of any quarter this year?
We do expect Q4 to be our highest bookings quarter of the year for sure and maybe even ever depending on a few factors there. So we're certainly excited about it, but that's The extent to which we'll elaborate on that right now.
Perfect. Thank you.
All right. Thank you, And thank you, everyone. We're going to have Rick close us out.
Awesome. Thanks, Andrea. And of course, thanks to our shareholders. It is With great pride that we're able to deliver results like this. It is an amazing team.
I got to tell you, Josh Isner, Having watched Jim grow in his career, he's just an amazing team builder and coach and he gets a lot of credit for Helping us find and recruit Britney in, who this is her first call with you guys, but I can tell you we're already feeling the magic that she's adding to the team. And of course, Jeff and the amazing team he has built over in product, he's continuing to just bring in amazing talent. So there's never been a better time to be at Axon. The moonshot, we didn't blindly make that Promise without some pretty clear vision on how we're going to get there. So to get to the moon, we're working on the Saturn V and the Eagle Lander and a lot of really awesome tech you can expect to Over the next couple of years.
So with that, I'm going to wish you all a happy holiday season. Thank you for your patience and sticking with us. Many have been You've fallen the company for a long time. We're delighted to see the investments we're making in the past pay off, and we're excited to show you where today's investments will pay off Tomorrow in the future. So if I don't see you all, enjoy your holidays, and we look forward to talking to you in the New Year.