Concrete Pumping Holdings, Inc. (BBCP)
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Earnings Call: Q3 2021

Sep 8, 2021

Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for participating in today's conference call to discuss Concrete Pumping Holdings Financial Results for the Q3 ended July 31, 2021. Joining us today are Concrete Pumping Holdings' CEO, Bruce Young CFO, Ian Humphries and the company's external Director of Investor Relations, Cody Slach. Before we go further, I would like to turn the call over to Mr. Schlage to read the company's Safe Harbor statement within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 that provides important cautions regarding forward looking statements. Cody, please go ahead. Thanks, Laura. I'd like to remind everyone that in the course of this call, to give you a better understanding of our operations, we will be making and forward looking statements regarding our business and outlook. These statements are subject to numerous risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from such statements. For information concerning these risks and uncertainties, see Concrete Pumping Holdings' annual report on Form 10 ks, quarterly report on Form 10 Q and other publicly available filings with the SEC. The company disclaims any intention or obligation to update or revise and forward looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise. On today's call, we will also and certain non GAAP financial measures, including adjusted EBITDA, net debt and free cash flow, which we believe provide useful information for investors. We provide further information about these non GAAP financial measures and reconciliations to the comparable GAAP measures in our press release issued today or the investor presentation posted on the company's website. I'd like to remind everyone this call will be available for replay later this evening. And A webcast replay will also be available via the link provided in today's press release as well as on the company's website. And Investor Presentation to the company's website. Now I'd like to turn the call over to the CEO of Concrete Pumping Holdings, Bruce Young. Bruce? Thank you, Cody. Good afternoon, everyone, and thanks for joining today's teleconference. I'm pleased to report that after a challenging weather start to the Q3, we had a strong finish that highlighted the relative resilience and flexibility of our business. At the beginning of the quarter, we experienced well above average rainfall in many of our markets, including Texas, Colorado and Arizona. Because of the higher levels of precipitation, many of our customers' projects in the month of May were delayed. But I am delighted to report that Our team performed exceptionally well catching up in June July, and we ended the quarter with 5% year over year consolidated revenue growth. This was driven by strong demand within our residential and infrastructure markets and our team's ability to opportunistically improve our rates. We continue to grow market share and have maintained a strong financial profile with $40,500,000 in year to date free cash flow that has driven significant improvement in our total available liquidity. Based on our solid results to date, we remain in a strong position to and execute our strategic growth priorities and financial outlook in 2021 and beyond. Within our individual reporting segments, Our U. S. Pumping business was slightly lower due to the above average rainfall that I just discussed as well as lingering COVID-nineteen headwinds and some of our commercial projects. Like last quarter, this volume headwind was mostly offset by strong results and market share expansion in our residential business and Continued Growth in Infrastructure. In our UK segment, revenue increased 37% due to continued strong recovery from the impacts of COVID-nineteen. In Eco Pan, revenues were up 8% due to organic growth and pricing improvements. Eco Pan remains and part of our long term growth strategy. And during the quarter, we made great strides in further building out our sales team. Now turning to some end market commentary. We are continuing to see strong demand within the residential market, especially for single family homes. We have been able to capitalize on this momentum and residential Construction continues to be a bright spot for our company today. As for the commercial market, the pandemic continues to cause some weakness as we discussed in our prior earnings calls. We have intentionally tailored our fleet management to capture residential opportunities while the commercial market recovers. In the near term, we expect and greater share of our overall revenue will come from residential projects. We are continuing to see momentum with our infrastructure projects in the U. S. And the U. K. In the U. K, our team continues to work on the concrete intensive high speed railway project that we expect will last beyond 2,030. In the U. S, we've seen increased public funding from state governments for bridges, schools, wastewater treatment plants and hospitals. As for the current infrastructure bill that is being debated in DC, we believe the federal infrastructure bill will ultimately be passed, although the timing, size and many other details are still unknown. Regardless of whether an infrastructure bill gets passed, we expect to be able to capitalize and increase infrastructure spending at the state level. Importantly, I want to note that our current outlook for fiscal 2021 does not include possible benefits of an infrastructure bill. Our commercial end market continues to recover along with our nation's recovery from the pandemic. As we reported last quarter, we've seen continued progress in high growth markets such as fulfillment centers and data centers, both of which are concrete intensive projects. We are actively bidding projects that require specialty equipment and it is expected that these projects will begin in early 2022. On the cost side of the business, the most notable headwind that we encountered in the Q3 was from diesel fuel. As a reminder, in 1st 2 quarters of this year, fuel was neither a headwind or a tailwind. In our Q3, not only did we absorb fuel price increases of almost $1 per gallon compared to last year, but we were comparing to a quarter where much less fuel was consumed given the lower traffic congestion due to COVID related lockdowns. In times when we face inflationary cost pressures such as diesel fuel increases, we update our prices accordingly and there is typically a lag as We burn off current workload as previously agreed pricing. Now looking at labor, we continue to endure challenges from availability of qualified workers due to the current tightness in the job market. It remains difficult to attract new and qualified talent given the various COVID-nineteen stimulus keeping some workers on the sidelines. This isn't something that just impacted our business. Various trades across many of our customers' projects also to found workers hard to acquire in the current environment. While our business generally has unique levers to pull to combat labor headwinds like a higher wage base, which generally helps attract more sticky talent, the unique environment experienced this quarter was difficult to fully offset. We have acted on both labor and fuel cost inflation by opportunistically raising our rates. In other areas of Supply Chain, I am pleased to say that the cement headwinds we mentioned last quarter were short term and did not noticeably affect us or our customers in the Q3. We were also able to maintain safety uptime and reliability of our equipment by holding a stable and consistent inventory of repair and maintenance parts. During the quarter, we successfully executed upon M and A strategy by securing a strategic acquisition of 16 concrete pumping trucks from a construction company in Southern California market. We folded majority of those trucks into our Southern California location and redirected some and excess equipment into the Las Vegas market. Las Vegas represents a greenfield expansion for us, and we're excited to say that we have quickly established a strong team that we believe is the right fit to pursue opportunities that would be an attractive market for our business. Our new Senior Vice President of Sales and Marketing, Tom O'Malley, who is off to a great start, is working hard to drive continued development in our U. S. National sales strategy in order to capture additional growth opportunities. In addition, as we announced today, we successfully acquired the assets of Hi Tec Concrete Pumping Services. Hy Tech is an established concrete pumping service provider primarily based out of the Houston metro area that shares our core values of safety, people and reliability. Hy Tech notably improves our market share in the Houston metro area and further strengthens our presence in Southern Texas. The acquisition will be immediately accretive to our earnings and similar to other M and A deals, we structured it as an asset purchase paying $12,300,000 in cash for 34 pieces of revenue generated equipment, including 32 boom pumps and 2 placing booms with an average age of approximately 7 years. We have already onboarded Hy Tech's experienced team and look forward to growing our breadth of services in the fast growing Houston Metro and South Texas markets. Additionally, the acquisition provides a compelling opportunity for us to introduce our Eco Pan service to Hy Tech's customers. Overall, we were pleased with our operational execution and financial performance in the Q3. I will return to discuss our longer and growth strategy and provide an updated market outlook. But for now, I will pass the call off to Ian to discuss our Q3 financial results in more depth. Ian? Thanks, Bruce, and good afternoon, everyone. Consolidated revenue increased by approximately 5% to $80,800,000 compared to by $7,100,000 in the same year ago quarter. The revenue increase was mainly driven by organic growth in our UK operation as the country's construction market continues to recover from the impacts of COVID related shutdowns. Additionally, our U. S. Concrete Waste Management business operating under the Eco Pan brand reported a record $10,100,000 in sales reflecting an 8% increase compared to the same year ago period. Turning now to our individual segments, revenue in our U. S. Concrete Pumping segment mostly operating under the Bruinage Bone brand was $58,000,000 compared $58,600,000 in the same year ago quarter. The slight decline as mentioned earlier by Bruce was primarily a result of the lower construction volume in May due to excessive and above average rainfall in our South and Central regions. However, the team did an excellent job recovering and caught up most of the delayed revenue and volume throughout the months of June July. For our UK operation operating largely under the Canfor brand, revenue improved 37% to $12,700,000 compared to $9,200,000 in the same year ago quarter. This organic growth is primarily attributed to the fact that that prior year period was heavily impacted by COVID-nineteen shutdowns. UK is now running at near full capacity when compared with and pre COVID-nineteen volume and revenue run rate. We remain optimistic about the rest of the year and beyond in the UK as regional markets continue to strengthen across the country. Revenue in our U. S. Concrete Waste Management Services segment increased almost 8% to $10,100,000 in the Q3 of 2021 compared to $9,400,000 in the same prior year quarter. The increase was due to solid organic growth, pricing improvements and growth in our roll off service adoption. Returning to our consolidated results, gross profit in the 3rd quarter was $37,200,000 compared to $37,800,000 in the same year ago quarter and gross margin was 46.1% compared to 49%. The reduction in margin is reflective of higher fuel costs as a result of the fuel price headwinds and increased traffic congestion that were outlined earlier by Bruce. We continue to prudently monitor and manage other areas of cost. And turning to review our general and administrative overhead, These expenses in Q3 were $25,000,000 which is 7% lower when compared to $27,000,000 in the same year ago quarter. Excluding the non cash G and A expenses related to amortization and stock based compensation. G and A expenses were $17,000,000 or 21% of revenue, which compares to $17,500,000 or 23% of revenue in the same year ago quarter. As a reminder, in January this year, we accessed the Capital Markets to pursue a strategic refinance of our debt facilities. And to date this has delivered the expected benefits of lower interest expense, improved balance sheet capacity and lower amounts of cash paid for interest. In the Q3, interest expense was $6,200,000 which compares to $8,400,000 in the same year ago quarter. Net income attributable to common shareholders increased to $4,100,000 or $0.07 per diluted share compared to a net loss attributable to common shareholders of $200,000 or $0.0 per diluted share. The improvement was driven largely by the aforementioned increase in revenue, reduction in G and A expense and lower interest expense. Adjusted EBITDA in the 3rd quarter was $28,400,000 compared to $30,000,000 in the same year ago quarter. Adjusted EBITDA margin was 35.2% compared to 38.9% in the same year ago quarter. Looking at adjusted EBITDA by segment, adjusted EBITDA in our U. S. Concrete Pumping business was $18,400,000 compared to $21,200,000 in the same year ago quarter. In our UK business, adjusted EBITDA increased 20 percent to $4,100,000 compared to $3,400,000 in the same year ago quarter given the continued recovery in organic revenue growth. For our U. S. Concrete Base Management business, adjusted EBITDA improved 10% to $5,300,000 compared to $4,800,000 in the same prior year quarter following an 8% year over year organic revenue growth. Now turning to our capital structure and liquidity. As at July 31, 2021, we had total debt outstanding of $375,000,000 or net debt of 354,800,000 After including our year to date CapEx investments of $29,500,000 net debt has been reduced by $22,000,000 and current net debt levels equate to our net debt to EBITDA leverage ratio of approximately 3.3 times. As of July 31, 2021, we had approximately $142,200,000 in liquidity, which includes cash from the balance sheet and availability from our ABL facility. When compared to our 2020 fiscal year end, our current Liquidity position has improved by almost $83,000,000 or by 240% from 59,300,000 as of October 31, 2020. This improvement has greatly enhanced the flexibility of our balance sheet and ability to pursue accretive investment opportunities like M and A, such as the tuck in strategic acquisitions we are discussing today. As a reminder, we have no near term debt maturities with our senior notes and asset based lending facility maturing in 2026. Our business continues to generate healthy operating free cash flows. We invoice our customers daily for the work we perform and we have minimal working capital requirements since we do not take ownership of the concrete we place. As an example of the strength of our cash flow model, we generated approximately $40,500,000 and year to date free cash flow and this equates to a very healthy free cash flow conversion rate from adjusted EBITDA of approximately 53%. Our ability to generate strong free cash flows allows us to expand our liquidity position, secure opportunistic and accretive investments and delever in line with our strategic goals. Turning now to provide an update on CapEx investments. We continue to make improvements to our existing concrete pumping fleet age. By improving the age of our fleet, we have safer and more reliable equipment. We have lower repair costs and reduced repair time, providing us more opportunities to capture project wins with our new customers. Following a slight delay on delivery of equipment orders from earlier in the year, equipment deliveries were back on track in Q3. These delayed equipment deliveries, in addition to the $5,900,000 for growth CapEx in Southern California, resulted in elevated CapEx in Q3 that we expect will normalize to historical norms in Q4. And the improvements to our fleet are critical to drive improved margin performance across the business. Additionally, an enhanced fleet helps attract qualified employees, which is very important in today's labor market and often improves retention of our existing employees. We continue to apply prudent capital allocation and remain opportunistic with our strategic and accretive CapEx investments. Now moving to our full year 2021 outlook, We continue to expect our full year revenues to range between $300,000,000 $310,000,000 adjusted EBITDA to range between $105,000,000 $110,000,000 and free cash flow, which we define as adjusted EBITDA less net CapEx less cash interest to range between 47,500,000 at $52,500,000 Operationally and financially, we remain strong and we are actively working to execute on our growth strategy. With that, I will now turn the call back over to Foose. Thanks, Ian. In the Q3 of 2021, we were pleased with our ability to grow revenue despite weather disruptions and the continued impact of COVID-nineteen. We are gradually returning to a normalized state in both U. S. And U. K. And during the quarter, we took steps to drive and scale through continued organic growth as well as strategic M and A. In our Eco Pan business, we are also focused on growth as we build out our sales team in and strategic locations to enhance the reach of our service and communicate the disruptive and economic value of our service offering to new customers. While we're excited to be speaking about 2 complementary tuck in acquisitions on this call, we continue to have a robust pipeline of other acquisitions that our team is assessing and we remain very disciplined in our approach to consummate a deal. Hitek is a great example of us sticking to that disciplined capital allocation approach as we believe this acquisition clearly fits our criteria of what we look for a high returning capital investment that will enable revenue growth and improve operating efficiencies to drive margin expansion. Overall, we continue to balance our disciplined capital allocation priorities to responsibly grow our business while maintaining a healthy balance sheet and financial flexibility. We remain focused on prudent organic capital investment, to consistent return of value to our shareholders and value enhancing acquisitions. We look forward to continuing to develop our leading market and share position organically and through acquisitions. For the last quarter of the year, we expect that residential construction will continue to be an area of momentum and strength for us for our U. S. Business as demand remains high for these projects. In infrastructure, we are also seeing continued momentum, especially in areas like the U. K, where we have always been infrastructure heavy. For commercial, we continue to see heightened demand for heavy industrial warehouses and data centers given the current e commerce and work from home trends. We expect our commercial business will continue to recover in the last quarter of this fiscal year as commercial construction investment continue and as the economy recovers from the impacts of COVID-nineteen. Lastly, we expect Eco Pan to continue accelerating, especially as our sales team ramp up and we are able to sell in person. With that, I'd like to now turn the call back over to the operator for Q and A. Laura? Thank you, sir. At this time, we will be conducting a question and answer session. A confirmation form will indicate your line is in the question queue. For participants using speaker equipment. It may be necessary for you to pick up your handset before pressing the star key. One moment while we poll for questions. Our first question comes from the line of Tim Mulrooney with William Blair. You may proceed with your question. Good afternoon, Bruce. Good afternoon, Ian. Hi, Tim. So last quarter, you guys highlighted some potential project delays from a supply chain shortage of concrete. Did that impact your business in the Q3 as well? And if so, could Could you quantify it for us? Yes. We had talked about the cement shortage and how that affected ready mix concrete in the last earnings call. It turned out in Q3 it wasn't as impactful as Q2 was and really it wasn't a meaningful impact for the quarter. Now we have had other supply chain issues with steel and other supplies on projects that have had some impact on us. But To this point, they haven't been meaningful. Okay. That's good to hear. And you anticipated my next question, Bruce, because you did talk about supply chain constraints in your press release this afternoon. Those are not related to concrete, It's a cement, excuse me, it's related to other things like steel. Would you say that those constraints relative to last This quarter have gotten better or worse or are about the same? I would say that they're about the same as what they were in in the last quarter and we see them steadily improving. Okay. So not getting not actively getting worse. And then as it relates to the uncooperative weather in Texas and Colorado and Arizona, I apologize if I missed this in your prepared remarks, but Any estimate how much that impacted your fiscal Q3 by pushing revenue out in the future quarters? Yes. Tim, this is Ian. It never we caught I mean, in our We largely caught up on that weather element. It was probably about $2,000,000 of revenue And it was impacted in May. But I mean the catch up was almost all recovered through June July was maybe about $500,000 of revenue that was left behind. So not a substantial amount will get pushed. So the team did a remarkable job catching up in that volume in June July. Okay. That's good to hear, Ian. One more for me and I'll pass it along. On this Hy Tech acquisition, I guess, 2 parts here. Number 1, Was this acquisition multiple for the business, was it in the normal range of what you typically expect to pay for a company of this size? Or have acquisition multiples increased in recent years? And secondarily, I think investors like to see opportunistic bolt on acquisitions like this. Can you provide us with a sense for how many of these types of bolt on opportunities there are in the U. S? Sure. So with the Hy Tech business, as you know, as we look at businesses, we look at 4 times EBITDA or 1.25 times the value of their concrete pumping assets are the average of those 2. And the Hy Tech acquisition threaded the needle on that. So it was right in line with where we expected it to be. And as far as for future opportunities, we have several Very similar, some larger, some smaller in the pipeline right now that we're currently looking at. That's great. Thanks for taking my questions, guys. Thanks, Jim. Our next question comes from the line of Stanley Elliott with Stifel. You may proceed with your question. Hey, everybody. Thank you guys for taking the call. Bruce, can you talk a little bit about the rate? You mentioned being opportunistic and pushing that higher. How much should we think the rate increased over the course of the quarter? Yes. So our rate increase over the quarter was A little over 1% for the quarter. Now we really started getting hit with the fuel cost early on in the quarter. And as you know, about 50% of our work is work that we've pre bid. And so we already have agreements and we don't have the ability to get the rate up on that. And so as those jobs wind down and new jobs start, we basically put our cost tools to work and determine what the rate should be on future bidding on projects. And so, while it's improving, it will as those projects run out And if fuel stays at the level it's at and other issues, we'll certainly factor that in over the next couple of quarters. And when you think about kind of the CapEx as a percent of sales, should we think about that? I don't want to get too far ahead, but thinking about that in Similar terms next year. And the reason I'm bringing it up I brought it up is you mentioned U. K. Running near capacity. You talked about A lot of the infrastructure projects they have, have such a long duration. Are we looking at a situation where we'll need to move the CapEx higher to meet demand in some of these markets? Our utilization rates are still in the high 70s where we target about 85%. We have quite a bit of capacity to go before we have to start adding organic units. So I think for the near term, I think the percentages we've given you in the past that 10% to 12% of revenue for CapEx are going to be pretty consistent. Perfect. And then lastly for me, single family continues to be quite strong. Any concerns about some of your builders being able to find land to put down the pads, put down the roads, etcetera? Certainly, in certain markets, that's becoming tighter and tighter. But the pricing on houses has gotten to the point where they can forward to move into some of those properties that were unaffordable prior. And so I see that still moving on. Great, guys. Thank you very much and best of luck. Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Justin Hauke with Robert Baird. You may proceed with your question. Good evening. I appreciate the time here. I wanted to ask, I don't think you quantified it on the diesel specifically. I think you gave the amount of diesel increase, but not the dollar cost and just maybe how that weighed on the gross margin, if you could quantify that just for the quarter? Yes. Hi, Justin. This is Ian. So on the fuel price, I mean, as you know, it went up at almost $1 from About $2.40 a gallon to about $3.40 a gallon to a year over year. So it was about 40% increase in fuel price Year over year in that quarter. The dollar effect on the quarter was about $1,500,000 $1,500,000 Okay. Thanks. That's helpful. And I guess my text I'm sorry, were you saying something? No, go ahead, Justin. Okay. The second question, just, I wanted to clarify on the acquisition or I guess it's an acquisition. The HD Construction that you called out that was in the quarter, is that a business? Or did you literally just acquire equipment there and so it's more of a CapEx purchase? This came through there's a fairly large general contractor in Southern California that bought started buying equipment in 2014 and with the idea that they would go after the infrastructure play. And after 6 or 7 years of running that business, he's decided that it wasn't for him and so we offered that portion of his business up for sale and largely just negotiated a deal with us to buy his assets for asset value. Okay. All right. That makes sense. And I guess just maybe the last question I have here is on Eco Pan. You've given the stat in the past about the growth of the number of pans in the field just as kind of a leading indicator. What was that increase in the quarter? Just so we can kind of think about the trajectory there. Yes. The increase in The quarter was largely around the revenue increase. So the pans in the field count continue to improve and in line with our organic growth in revenue. Got it. Okay. That's all I've got here. Thank you very much. Thanks. Thanks, Justin. At this time, this concludes our question and answer session. I would now like to turn the call back over to Mr. Young for closing remarks. Thank you, Laura. We'd like to thank everyone for listening to today's call, and we look forward to speaking with you when we report our Q4 and full year for fiscal year 2021 results in January. Thank you. This concludes today's teleconference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation and enjoy the rest of your day.