Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by, and welcome to the BioCryst First Quarter 2021 Earnings Call. Please note that today's call is being recorded. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. After the speakers' presentation, there will be a question and answer session. I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker for today, John Bluth at BioCryst.
John, the floor is yours.
Thanks, Jay. Good morning and welcome to BioCryst's Q1 2021 corporate update and results conference call. Today's press release is available on our website. Participating with me today are CEO, John Stonehouse CFO, Anthony Doyle Chief Commercial Officer, Charlie Geyer Chief Medical Officer, Doctor. Bill Sheridan Chief Business Officer, Megan Stuczynski and Chief R and D Officer, Doctor.
Helen Thackray. Following our remarks, we will answer your questions. Before we begin, please note that today's conference call will contain forward looking statements, including those statements regarding future results, unaudited and forward financial information as well as the company's future performance and or achievements. These statements are subject to known and unknown risks and You should not place undue reliance on these forward looking statements. For additional information, including a detailed discussion of our risk factors, please refer to the company's documents filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission, which can be accessed on our website.
I'd now like to turn the call over to John Stonehouse.
Thanks, John. I couldn't be more excited to have our 1st earnings call with revenue from a BioCryst launch product. This is the latest evidence that our company is going through a major transformation. Sales were very encouraging in Q1, especially considering this is our Q1 of the launch of Orla Deo. This is a direct result of focused execution of our plan by the BioCryst team and the desire to build a great company that can discover, Develop and now successfully commercialize oral medicines for patients suffering from rare diseases.
Very few companies can do all 3. The launch is off to a great start because we have a great drug, it works. Patients Are experiencing meaningful reductions in their attacks and they can achieve this by taking 1 capsule once a day. This is leading to patient switches from injectable prophy and on demand therapy. It's exactly what we saw in our market research and clinical trials And it's already playing out in the marketplace.
Great drugs don't sell themselves. We also have a fantastic team. Charlie and Alan Hodge, our US GM have assembled an experienced team, but more importantly, they're working together working through challenges and obstacles like COVID And achieving great results. We couldn't be more pleased with the start and the good news, we're just getting going with so many more patients to reach in the U. S.
While the U. S. Is the largest market, we now have approval in other major territories around the world. Our partner Tory is launching in Japan and we recently received approval in the EU. The same planning investments were made here too.
The launch ramp will take longer as these are different markets from the U. S, but we expect these countries to contribute over time to our goal of achieving $500,000,000 plus in global peak sales. And finally, our pipeline is full with the opportunity we have with our oral Inhibitor, BCX9930 for patients suffering from many different complement mediated rare diseases. We're heading into pivotal studies in PNH and proof of concept in nephritis indications. We will apply all the learnings of our HAE program And build off that success to bring 9,930 to market to create even greater value as a company that discovers, Develops and commercializes multiple oral drugs for patients suffering from rare diseases.
Now I'll turn the call over to Charlie to go over more details about our early launch success.
Charlie? Thanks, John. The Erlodata launch is off to a great start. We're pleased, but not surprised. We knew we had a great drug that patients want because they are tired of the physical, psychological and logistical burdens of injectable therapies.
Physicians also tell us they are confident in prescribing Orlydeo for a broad range of patients when they see the long term data on attack reduction, Safety and tolerability. Here's what we're seeing so far. In a very competitive market, patients are switching to Orlydeo. Over half the patients starting on starting oral ODAO for the first time are switching from injectable prophy. The rest are switching from acute treatment only now that they have an oral once daily prophy option.
In fact, The majority of patients on Orlodeo by the end of Q1 were those who switched from other products. The rest were patients transitioning from our clinical trials Trial investigators accounted for a minority of Orla Dao prescribers in Q1. Roughly 500 physicians treat 50% of HAE patients And our team has reached nearly all of them. Most of these physicians tell us they intend to prescribe Orlydeo, but only a minority have done so thus far. So there is a lot of room for growth.
And finally, payers are reacting favorably to Orlydeo. Most of the reimbursed product in Q1 came through medical But many payers and PBMs also establish coverage policies. Our momentum with payers is strong and we expect the great majority of patients to have access Our U. S. General Manager, Alan Hodge and our U.
S. VP of Sales, Ron Dellinger, Launched SynRise over a decade ago and successfully created the first market for HAE Profi. They came to BioCryst because they always knew That an oral drug is what patients really wanted. They attracted a talented and agile team that understands the importance of fighting for every patient in a competitive rare disease market like HAE. As excited as we are about the Q1 results, this team is just getting started.
COVID has limited in person sales calls, but vaccines are starting to change this. Our marketing programs are just starting to kick in And expanding reimbursement access is giving patients and prescribers even more comfort in switching to Orlydeo. We are very confident about the growth trajectory and we believe Orlodea will reach peak global sales north of $500,000,000 The U. S. Is the 1st and largest part of that opportunity, but we expect meaningful sales in Europe.
Awareness and understanding of HAE in Europe is on par with U. S, but use of targeted HAE prophylaxis has lagged based on lack of options. Our work with European physicians and patients tells us that the availability of new options and specifically an oral once daily therapy We'll more than double prophylactic treatment share to 60% or more of patients. We are taking the same approach in Europe as in the U. S, Investing in experienced commercial teams that know how to launch rare disease products.
Orlydeo will launch in Germany this quarter And early access programs are active in France and the United Kingdom. We look forward to sharing more about Europe in the coming quarters. And there is yet another Orlydeo launch underway right now in Japan. I'll turn the call over to Megan to describe how our partners at Tori Pharmaceutical are approaching this opportunity.
Thanks, Charlie. We're excited the Japanese launch is now underway After successfully completing the NHI price negotiations last month, there are a few important points I want to emphasize again regarding the commercial And what makes it different from the U. S. And Europe. First, Orlideo is the only approved prophylactic therapy in Japan.
With no competition, Tori has a head start in building the prophy market and our oral once daily medicine is well suited for a population that tends to prefer oral drugs over injections. Secondly, while the vast majority of patients In the U. S. And EU are already diagnosed Japan lags behind. Only about 20% of patients are identified in the registry today.
Tori is focused on finding patients and helping to advance their standard of care by providing access to the 1st approved prophylactic medicine. One reason we chose Torrey was based on what they accomplished with Gilead's HIV franchise. Their strategy focused on driving disease awareness among physicians and increasing patient identification. This strategy was very successful as they grew the business to almost $200,000,000 annually. This experience serves as a strong foundation heading into Orla Deo's launch.
And similar to us, Tory has been preparing well in advance And are fully focused on supporting a successful launch. Lastly, through our partnership economics, We have triggered the $15,000,000 milestone payment following pricing and we get the share in Tory's success With a tiered royalty from 20% to 40% of net sales. Overall, the Japanese market provides an outstanding long term opportunity. We see a strong potential to follow a path similar to what we've seen in the U. S.
In the last decade, An expansion of the HAE market driven by patient diagnosis and adoption of prophy treatment as part of standard of care.
As Charlie shared, there's a
lot of early momentum in the U. S. Launch and we're not surprised by this excellent start. Over the course of this year, you will continue to see new clinical data highlighting how well patients do on Orlanda over time. Patients are getting their disease under control, while reducing the impact treatment has on their lives and independence.
Our work is also helping physicians understand how Orlodeo is an ideal treatment choice for all patients. It offers patients the attack control they desire and the lifestyle freedom and benefits of a convenient, more discrete oral once daily pill. Our strategy remains focused on shifting this treatment paradigm. As Charlie spoke about earlier, patients are switching, which is early evidence our Strategy is working. We see a very similar unmet need and opportunity in the complement space with our Factor D program.
I'll now turn it over to Bill for more on our 9,930 progress. Bill?
Thanks, Megan. For everyone who discovered and developed OLIVEIRA and our clinical trial collaborators around the world, it's just so great to see the OLIVEIRA launch doing so well. For hereditary angioedema, ORVADA was effective, it is safe and because it is oral, dramatically reduces the burden of therapy. A very similar shift is beginning for patients with paracetamolactional hemoglobinuria, a very serious rare disease With no approved oral treatments and the standard of care is lifelong intravenous infusions. BCX-nine thousand nine hundred and thirty Great opportunity to substantially improve disease control in PNH compared to the currently available intravenously infused C5 inhibitors.
These do a good job controlling intravascular hemolysis, but many patients remain anemic, are still transfusion dependent And continue to suffer from symptoms like fatigue. That's because C5 inhibitors cannot control extravascular hemolysis. These clinical advantages come on top of the obvious patient benefits of oral administration and we are moving the program very quickly to get this medicine to patients with PNH. I'm pleased to report that we've now reached agreement with the FDA on both the design and the endpoints for our PNH pivotal trials. The 2 pivotal trials each test oral BCX9930 monotherapy and will support the indication of treatment of PNH.
The dose will be 500 milligrams BID. One trial will include patients who had an inadequate response to C5 inhibitors And the other trial will include patients not currently receiving complement inhibitors, including those naive to these drugs. Patients in both categories need relief of anemia, freedom from transfusions and relief of symptoms. The primary endpoints of both pivotal trials agreed with the FDA will be changed from baseline in hemoglobin, a direct clinical measure of release of anemia. In both trials, we will measure the impact on need for transfusions as a secondary endpoint and we will also capture other important outcomes in TNH such as fatigue scores, TNH clone size and laboratory biomarkers of hemolysis.
The outstanding results we reported in March With mean hemoglobin change from baseline of 3.3 grams per deciliter in C5 inadequate response patients And 3.5 grams per deciliter in treatment naive patients position BCX9930 very well for success in our pivotal trials. As you heard in March, hematologists and patients with TNH are very excited by the prospect of a treatment that could dramatically improve outcomes And eliminate the need for IV infusions. We are convinced that success in our pivotal studies will drive a paradigm shift in PNH towards oral proximal complement inhibition with BCX9930. So what's next in this program? We are now ready to move directly into the pivotal trials in PNH in the second half of the year using the designs now agreed with the FDA.
We will also move into a proof of concept trial We selected nephritis indications in the second half of this year. BZX9930 represents Pipeline in the molecule. We are very excited to be moving this program so quickly because we know patients are waiting. Now I'd like to hand the call over to Anthony.
Thanks, Bill. We've continually said that we are focusing our investments where they can drive the greatest value. With Orlodeo now approved in 3 key global territories, the commercial team in the U. S. Getting the launch off to a great start And the very positive data that we have with BCX9930, we are executing this strategy and we are well positioned for future growth.
You can find our detailed financials in today's earnings press release and I'd like to call your attention to a few items. Net revenue The quarter was $19,100,000 Of this, dollars 10,900,000 came from sales of Orla Deo in the U. S. Our operating expenses, not including non cash compensation, for the quarter was $63,000,000 with the incremental investment from previous Quarter is focused on the development of BCX9930. We ended Q1 with $244,000,000 in cash.
This cash, in addition to access to the additional $75,000,000 from Ethereum and now revenue from Orla Deo, continues to give us cash runway into 2023. Since this is our 1st full quarter of Orla Dera revenue, I wanted to take a minute to remind you of our approach on a couple of key items. We recognize revenue when our sole source specialty pharmacy ships Orlodeo to patients for use. Each shipment contains a 28 day supply of Orlodeo. These are shipments directly from the specialty pharmacy to patients, so they are true sales and you will not see any inventory or channel stocking in our revenue numbers.
When we look at gross to net, the biggest impact at the moment will be driven by non reimbursed shipments. Our QuickStart program has proven to be a real differentiator And is delighting customers in the ease and speed of getting access to Orlydea, sometimes within 24 hours of a start form being submitted. The Quick Start program and our patient assistance program both resulted in the gross to net adjustment being higher now than it will be once the launch is in a more mature phase. Because gross to net is so fluid early in the launch, We are not providing gross to net guidance, but as we continue to progress with the launch, you should expect our gross to net adjustment to move in line with other rare disease products. So what does our strong Q1 mean for future periods?
Charlie's team did a great job of converting clinical trial patients, giving us a boldness of patients in the Q1. Additionally, the team has achieved great success in helping many new patients Switch from injectable prophylactic or acute only medications. Together, this gives us a really strong foundation for future periods. We have not provided revenue guidance as there are still several variables that will impact the growth trajectory of revenue that we need more time to better understand. 1st, What is the steady state of monthly prescriptions?
While we've been very encouraged with the numbers to date, we need more time to see it play out. Next, what does customer retention look like over a longer time? In our clinical trials, this number was about 75% through 48 weeks, Telling us that Orlodeo is well tolerated and is providing outstanding attack control. While we believe we will see this level of persistence in the market, And lastly, what does the trend look like when the vast majority of patients have reimbursement? The $10,900,000 in net revenue we are reporting is only from patients whose ORILDEA prescriptions are reimbursed.
As Charlie described, we're making good progress getting Orlyday onto policies, but the pace of reimbursement over, Especially the Q2 will be a key driver in the rate of revenue growth for us over the remainder of the year. While we're early in the launch, we are very encouraged by the results to date. We have a lot of work to do and a lot more patients to get this next generation of drug too. We have a great product in Orlodeo. There is strong patient demand for it and we have the team to execute on making our launch a success And getting us to our peak target of $500,000,000 plus in the coming years.
With that, I'll hand it back over to John.
Thanks, Anthony. This is what execution looks like. We're off to a great start with the launch of Orlodeo in the U. S. And starting to launch in other major parts of the world, All contributing to what we believe will be a $500,000,000 plus global peak sales product.
Add to that our plan to advance into pivotal studies in PNH with 9,930 and in parallel moving into other indications with this pipeline in 1 molecule. And finally, having the financial flexibility that comes with a strong balance sheet and revenue generation allows us to focus on execution and value creation. The evidence is clear that BioCryst is transforming into a company with product revenue, A full pipeline and a discovery engine that produce these compounds and will continue to produce more. That concludes our prepared remarks. We'll now open it up for your questions.
Thank you. Thank you. Our first question comes from the line of Jessica Fye of JPMorgan. Your line is open.
Hey, guys. Good morning. Congratulations on a strong quarter. I was curious if you could add some more color about specifically which agents You see the patients switching on to Orlov AO switching from?
Kelly, you want to take that?
Yes. Hey, good morning, Jeff. Thanks for the question. We're seeing patients switch from all the different therapies really in proportion to what you'd expect from their market share. So as I mentioned, more than half of the patients are switching from injectable prophys and that means TAKHZYRO, HAGARDA, SynRISE proportion to their market share.
Okay. Thanks. And you mentioned that some scripts were not reimbursed in the quarter.
Yes. We haven't commented on the Specific details, but as Anthony mentioned in his comments, what we're doing with nearly all patients is starting off on our Quick Start program. And then we work with patients and providers to go through prior authorization. And in Q1, most patients got access through medical exception. But we're making great progress with payers and we expect to make continued progress through mid year.
And Jess, Charlie made Comments in his prepared remarks around the more policies that are in place where all the DAOs on formulary, the more interest there is going to be by both doctors and physicians.
Got it. And just a last one on gross to nets. You mentioned that longer term that will move in line with other rare disease drugs. So can you just characterize what typical gross to nets are in rare disease?
Yes. From a gross to net Perspective, what we'd be looking at getting is kind of into the teens 20 type of frame.
Great. Thank you.
Welcome.
Thank you. Next question comes from the line of Lee Sabayo of Evercore ISI. Your line is open.
And I wanted to add my congratulations on a great quarter. I'm just going to turn to the PNH studies for a moment. Can you maybe discuss what Sort of control arms will look like in both of the studies?
Phil, you
want to take that?
Sure. Hi, Lisa. Thanks for the question. I'm super excited about moving into these studies, of course. And one study will be a superiority trial against C5 inhibitors in patients who have had an inadequate response.
And the other study in patients who are not taking C5 inhibitor, the control group will be placebo.
Okay. I see. And can you maybe describe the I guess how you'll be looking at superiority C5, will you be looking at combination therapy then For the patients that are inadequate responders or will people be moving on to monotherapy, how will that work
for the inadequate responders group?
Sure. Both studies are designed as tests of BCX9930 monotherapy. So patients will be randomized to In the C5 inhibitor trial, they randomized to continue their current treatment or start BCX-nine 9,930 monotherapy and discontinue their current treatment. So this is the goal here is a label for monotherapy With a broad indication to treat patients with TNH, but the reason for the study designs, as we just outlined, is to support that type of labeling.
Okay. And how do patients go on to monotherapy from being on a C5? How does that work? Is it just a Can it hold Turkey switch or is there a combination therapy and then a withdrawal or does it work?
No. It's the C5 inhibitor has stopped and The oral drug has started, 9,930 started. It's just a simple switch.
Okay. We haven't seen the data yet in that population in terms of being on monotherapy. You give us a sense of when you might see that in your Phase 1, Phase 2?
Sure. The protocol doesn't specify a particular Time line and it's a physician judgment call, but we expect that we'd be able to share data at the end of the year. I mean, neither the regulators nor us are waiting for that data in order to Start the studies because we're very confident in the drug on the basis of the monotherapy results from the naive patient population. The disease is the disease. The Factor D target is the same.
The dose is the same. So It's not necessary for us to see that data before we start the study.
Okay. Good. And then I guess Turning to Orla Deo, really great out of the gates. Is there any kind of additional color you can provide on either The percentage of patients that were on your Quick Start program receiving drug that way, the percentage of prescriptions Like Anar, any color on persistence? Those are obviously the key questions to help guide us as we think about the rest of the year Launching off of this really great start.
So, just hoping you can provide some additional color there. And that's my final question. Thank you.
Sure, Lisa. So on the percentage of QuickStart, so in Q1, nearly all patients started on QuickStart and that's part of our strategy As we work with them to get access and as I mentioned, most patients got reimbursement through medical exception. If they were not able we were not able to do that in Q1, they'll continue on free good until the payers establish policies. And then as far as your question about persistence, as Anthony had mentioned, we expect we had great results In our clinical trials with about 75% of patients staying on for at least a year, that's what we expected in the real world. So far the patient experience has been great, but it's too early to say what the long term persistence rate will be.
Okay.
And that patient quick start program is about, is it a monthly prescription until you get on
That's right. It's a month and if there's not reimbursement in a month there, we will continue them either on QuickStart or on our patient assistance program.
Okay. I guess that just leaves me with one final question. Approximately how long is it taking to get on to commercial reimbursed drug at this point?
So in Q1, it's all over the board, everything from a few days to patients still being on the program. And by mid year, we expect that to really stabilize As the great majority of patients will have access to coverage through their plans.
Yes. And Lisa, the theme here is that as the year progresses, We will have more and more people on paid drug and fewer and fewer on Quickstart. That's the plan.
Okay. All right. Thanks a lot guys.
Thank you.
Thank you. Next question comes from the line of Ken Cacciatore from Cowen and Co. Your line is open.
Hey, guys. Congratulations on the early progress. Just wondering, we hear really good things about the interactions on both the Clinician and patient level via your hub. So just wondering, as it seems to be ramping
a little bit faster, do you feel you're staffed Can
you talk about some of the early learnings from this really kind of more personalized approach and things that As things are getting underway that you're maybe changing or again if you're staffing a little bit more. Then on EU, just wondering, it looks like A potential really focused selling effort. Can you talk about where these patients are domiciled? Is it going to be Fairly easy to get at them, fairly difficult, maybe some of the learnings from the injectables. I know you feel and we feel as well that should go better there, but maybe a little bit more nuance around Europe.
And then lastly, maybe for Bill, I know it's Really early just announcing you're going to start these pivotals. But can you take a shot at timing of results? Maybe a little bit of nuance here in terms of the kind of competitive landscape to enroll patients, but Any kind of shot at when we might expect to see data would be fantastic. Thank you.
So the first question you had just about our specialty pharmacy patient services program and staffing. One of the great things about having a sole source is we really prepared for the right staffing. And then Alan Hodge and his team have done a great job working with the SP P, the pivot as we see this demand from patients. So increasing staffing appropriately, increasing procedures, They're really quick in making those changes to serve the patients well and it's making a difference. As far as the EU, really good question about access to patients and how easy or difficult is that.
The great thing about the EU is that Treatment centers are very concentrated, so you can literally have hundreds of patients within a given center. And so what our teams are doing is working with The HAE experts at those centers to make them aware that Orla Deo is coming and to reach out to their patients and bring them into So we're really enthusiastic about the opportunity there. And Ken, I'd add that BioCryst is
a known entity to these docs That treat HAE in Europe, I mean, we've been doing clinical trials all the way back to our 1st generation program. And so we've got fantastic relationships and They know the company. They've been involved in our trials and so their the excitement level is high.
And then maybe And then
maybe And then maybe And then
Phil, the Yes, go ahead.
Yes, sure. So Ken, what a great question. When will the studies finish? I wish I could be specific And give you a prediction. I think it's really difficult at this stage.
We need to get them up and running. What I can tell you is that we have a great Clinical execution team here at BioCryst and we are going to approach this on the basis that patients really need this It's going to be a major advance in PNH. That's what we believe. And so we'll be ramping as fast as possible. And just like in HAE, we'll go to the best centers all around the world to get these studies done.
And just like HAE, in most rare diseases, patients getting patients on clinical trials is a competitive Activity and that we believe we have a great offering here with an oral Factor D inhibitor. So we look forward to Seeing the study start on the accrual moving and then we'll be in a better position to make an estimate of when they might finish.
Great. Thanks.
Ken, I'd just add, it's hard to say because we just don't know what the rate of enrollment will be, right, in a competitive Space in a much larger study than what we've studied so far in PNH. It's just super hard to predict. But one thing I will say is Bill's team is excellent and their aim is to be the sponsor of choice and this is where Big doesn't necessarily help you small companies that pay attention that listen that give the extra TLC make a difference in enrollment. And so I am super confident that Bell's team will do that.
Very helpful.
Thank you. Next question comes from the line of Serge Belanger from Needham and Company. Your line is open.
Hey, good morning and thanks for taking my questions. A few on oral Omidyol. First, apologies if you covered this before. Did you disclose a number of patients that were on drug at the end of the Q1? And I guess how many of them Are patients transitioning from clinical trials or the early access programs?
Hey, Serge. Good morning. We have not disclosed the detail on that. What I can say is the number of patients on Orla Deo continues to grow every day as patients switch In Q1, what we did say is that the majority of patients by the end of the quarter were those were new patients switching And then too early to end, and then the rest of them were those transitioning from our clinical trials and EAP. And that transition program finished in Q1.
So that That bolus that Anthony talked about is complete and then everything going forward is growth as patients switch to Orlydaya.
Yes. Just one point of clarification on that, the complete means that they switch from clinical trials to QuickStart or patient assistance. They have to go through the same process of reimbursement like any other patient. And so some have been reimbursed, some have not.
Okay. And I think you talked about physician base about 500 serving about 50% of the HAE patients. How big is the next set of physicians serving the other 50% that you need to address?
Serge, there are easily another 1,000 plus physicians out there and we're reaching them as well. We're really concentrated on that Top 500 just because they are they have more patients and they really know HAE. So that's our priority, but we're reaching the other doctors as well. And we're getting prescribing from them too. And Serge, I'd add, what makes this achievement in the Q1 with the sales that Charlie and his team have generated even more As they did it in COVID, right?
And so we're already seeing things starting to open up with vaccination. That's only going to get
better as the course of the year goes on.
Okay. And then while around COVID, what has been the overall impact with restrictions? Are you seeing limitations on the number of patient switches? And is that something that you expect will increase as restrictions lift?
I think, 1st of all, Serge, as John was talking about, COVID limited our in person interaction with providers. Fewer than 50 We had a great quarter despite all of this. Another piece is that oral is easy for doctors to prescribe. So it's something that many physicians have been comfortable prescribing Orla Deo in a remote environment to their patients. With more in person visits though, it's just it's more opportunity and we're excited for what's to come.
Great. Thank you. Congrats on the progress.
Thanks, Serge.
Thank you. Next question comes from the line of Maury Raycroft of Jefferies. Your line is open.
Hi. This is Kenny Chan on for Maury Raycroft. I have two questions. 1 on ORLA DEAO. How is the progress on the formulary adoption versus Met reimbursement by medical exception.
And have you encountered any pushback on the cost effectiveness from insurances? And How are the reimbursement conversations going? Are insurance is looking at ISA reports? And for the second question on The PNH program, what was the FDA feedback on LDH levels? And is there a specified of the threshold that would trigger a safety concern?
Thanks.
Charlie, do you want to take?
Yes. Thanks, Kenny. As far as the payer progress, the policy progress is, as we said in our comments, it's going really well. In Q1, it was mainly medical exception that we were getting access, but several payers and PBMs put Orlideo on formulary. And we expect a lot of acceleration of that over Q2.
Cost effectiveness, No, this is the lowest price prophy on the market and payers have reacted really well to our pricing strategy as well as the profile of the drug. And then as they see the demand coming from patients switching to Oral Ledeo, it's really encouraging payers to establish coverage policies quickly. So we're very pleased with where we are. And let me stress one point I made in the prepared remarks.
This drug works, Right. People are switching that are controlled on prophy therapy to our drug and they're staying on our drug. So this idea of effectiveness. This drug works. I just really want to stress that.
Bill, you want
to take the FDA feedback on LDH?
Sure. Kenny, thanks for the question. We do have a secondary endpoint of percentage change from baseline in LDH. There is no threshold either as an endpoint or as a safety concern for that matter. So LVH is a useful biomarker.
The improvement in anemia with the change from baseline in hemoglobin going up And the improvement in transfusion burden with transfusion avoidance being, of course, the most important, the number of transfusions going down, Very important clinical outcomes. It's also worth stressing that another very important secondary endpoint is evaluation of quality of life with tools such as the facet fatigue score. So measuring fatigue is important too.
And Bill, you might want to just talk about the interaction with the FDA and that it was focused on clinical benefit, right? Biomarkers are important, but clinical benefit is more important.
Right. So the regulators, of course, want to see clinical outcomes being treated as important Endpoints in clinical trials. So that's why we have changed from baseline in hemoglobin as the primary endpoint and transfusion avoidance as a key secondary endpoint. And That's your little linchpin of evaluating a treatment of anemia after all. So, yes, there's a whole range of interesting biomarkers we're going to measure them.
LVH is not viewed as important enough to be a primary endpoint. It's really very simple.
Thanks.
Thank you. Next question comes from the line of Brian Abrahams of RBC Capital Markets. Your line is open.
Hey, good morning. Thanks for taking my questions and congrats as well on the early launch. My first question is on the launch. I was wondering if you could maybe parse out the pent up demand For patients new to Orla Deo, I guess I'm wondering how long into the year might you expect 1st quarter's rate of switching from existing acute prophylactic therapies to continue? Hey, Brian, it's Charlie.
Good question. And yes, there was pent up demand and we expected that. So they're always early adopters. What we're really pleased about is The demand is continuing. So we're seeing patients switch to Orlydayo literally every day.
So and then as I mentioned in my remarks, There's a lot of opportunity to come.
And then it's going to peter out, Brian. We expect that this is going to continue to be strong through the course of the year. And We said it's a $500,000,000 plus global peak sales product and we're even more confident in that.
Got it. That's really helpful. And then I'm curious what sort of feedback you're getting on how real world efficacy and safety and tolerability It's comparing to the clinical trial setting. Any surprises there? And then I know it's early days, but I'm curious what you're seeing with respect to persistence and compliance for the new patients to therapy versus the rollovers from the expanded access and QuickStart?
Yes, I'll take the first part, Charlie, if you could take the second, that'd be great. So I'm smiling as you asked that question because the docs And patients told us that these drugs do way better in the real world than they do in clinical trials. And so I think our clinical trial doesn't really represent The real benefit that we're seeing from patients, Megan mentioned that we're looking at the data from APeX-two out to now 96 weeks and It just keeps looking better, right? And so, this I'll say it again, this drug works. People are getting a real benefit.
They're getting control of their disease. And by the way, they're doing it on one capsule once a day. So it's just a huge, huge benefit.
And then Brian, your question about The experience of rollovers versus new patients, the great majority of the patients who are in our clinical trials Chose to continue on Orla Deo in the commercial world because they're having such a great experience and the early word back from patients and we hear back
from our specialty pharmacy and we hear back
through physicians via our reps, Pharmacy and we hear back through physicians via our reps. The early feedback is very strong. Patients newly switching Orlodeo are having a great experience as we expected. So we're pleased and to my point earlier, we expect more patients to continue to Switch to Orlodeo based on what they hear from their peers about their experience. Great.
Thanks so much.
You're welcome.
Thank you. Next question comes from the line of Tazeen Ahmad of Bank of America. Your line is open.
Hi, good morning guys. Thanks for taking my questions. On oral Omidyoh, as it relates to, I guess, treatment naive patients, What is your latest market data telling you about the percentage of patients who have HAE who are currently not on any therapy. And related to that, I'm just wondering, do you think once COVID So treatment naive patients that are receiving scripts will normalize more relative to what you're seeing in the early Stations of
the launch and then I
have a couple of follow ups.
See, I think I've got Question, but let me address it in a couple of different parts. What we saw prior to the launch of Orla Deo is about 60% of patients are on prophylaxis. And so in the Q1, we're seeing More than half of the patients coming to Orlydeo switching from those other prophy products. Most of the remainder of patients Switching to Orlodayo or switching from acute only treatment, so they may be naive to prophylaxis, but they've been treated with acute only. Our research tells us that the number of truly HAE treatment naive patients, they're not on acute, not on prophy, is small.
That's a small opportunity in the future, but most of these patients are treated well by their doctors. They have at least an acute therapy And those patients are deciding to switch to prophy now that they can do it with an oral once daily option. So this is a I can't stress this enough.
This is a switch Strategy and it's working, right? That is if you walk away with anything today, walk away with this is a marketplace where people are on Prope therapy and acute on demand therapy and they're switching to an oral drug, right? So that's what's we We saw that in the market research. We saw it in the clinical trials and now it's playing out in the marketplace, which is great. And it's only the Q1.
And to your point about COVID, I think there's opportunity here, right? I think access of our reps to docs It's been challenging in some parts of the country. They've been really diligent and resourceful and they Produced a great result in the Q1, but I think as things open up more, it's going to get better. And I think the same goes for docs and patients, Right. It's just been harder.
It's been telemedicine. Maybe they're putting off their visit. And so I think that gets better as more people get vaccinated and more people start to go see their doctor.
Okay. Thanks for that color, John. And then, for Japan, I know it's Just very, very early in the launch, but in terms of the trajectory, would you expect it to be similar to what we would expect to see in the U. S? And do you have any visibility on what pricing in Japan is?
Megan, you want to take that?
Sure, sure. So
on the trajectory, Tazeem, I think as we've been sharing, Japan is a very Market in the U. S. And Europe and is a decade behind. And so we're absolutely thrilled about the opportunity that Tory has to really build and shape it. So I think our trajectory in the near term is more tempered.
Also too Japan is in a state of emergency currently with COVID and a different rollout with the vaccine, so that may also slow that initial ramp. But as I shared in my Remarks, we see this as a really strong long term potential as Tori drives the adoption of PROPHIE, but also the expansion of the market through And then, Dazeen, to your second question, with our pricing Negotiations completing last week last month, excuse me, we netted out with a price of around US250000 dollars per patient per year. And for us, we were really proud and excited about that price point and the opportunity it represents for patients and for Tori. So All in all, they're equally excited to now be out of the gates like the U. S.
Had been for the last few months and we're excited to see what they can deliver.
Okay. Thank you. And then maybe just one question if I could on PNH. For the two trials that you're running, I know it's difficult Take a guess on how long it's going to take to enroll, but for the naive versus the placebo the inadequate responder trial, excuse me, Would you expect both to read out at around the same time? Or do you think one could enroll faster than the other?
Bill, you want to take that one?
Yes, sure. Hi, Tazeen. It's very difficult to say at this stage and either of those Possibilities could come to pass, right? They could read out at approximately the same time or one could move much quicker than the other. I think it's too early to know.
Okay. Thank you.
Thanks, Tazeen.
Thank you. Next question comes from the line of China Wong of Barclays. Your line is open.
Hi, good morning. This is Swapnil on for Gena. So
just one question on PNH,
so far can you tell us about what the size of the trials could be for this Phase III? And then like what Specific PKPD data was looked at to go ahead with the 500 mg BID dosing versus 400.
Thanks for your questions. So we're going to reserve additional details about the studies for later this year, maybe at a medical meeting or something like that. So we'll Be happy to share all of those details at that stage. Now with regards to selection of the dose, the PKPD modeling Uses all of the information you have, for example, on in vitro complement assays and Things like clinical outcomes and biomarkers like LDH. This is where LDH actually is quite useful As a fairly rapidly responsive biomarker that follows the dosing and we saw that in our disclosures through last year About how the higher doses are obviously superior to the lower doses.
So I think that it's that type of information that goes into the model as well, Well, of course, the drug
levels. And let me just add on the size. I mean, these are rare disease trials, right? And Typically in rare disease trials, you need a couple of 100 patients on the drug for a year for safety if it's a chronic therapy and The expectation is
it will be something like that.
I think we ended up Bill with over 300 in the HAE program when we filed. So roughly similar. Yes.
Okay. Thank you. And then one follow-up question. So for the slightly higher Levels that we see for LDH that was previously presented maybe was due to Shorter duration of treatment and like small sample size. So do you expect 500 mg BIA dosing over a period
So That particular target is not an endpoint in either study. So I think that's the most important response to the question in fact. So There actually is nothing magical about 1.5 times the upper limit of normal of the LDH. And LDH is certainly Useful biomarker and we're measuring it and it's included as a secondary endpoint. It's more relevant in the setting when you're starting out with a high LDH And you're not on C5 inhibitor therapy, but it's not as important as increasing the hemoglobin and reducing the transfusions and improving the fatigue.
So, specifically in answer to your question, I think what we've seen in all of the other studies Of all of the other complement inhibitors, when sponsors have published individual patient data over a long period of time, You see that the LDH fluctuates and that will be typical in this disease. We expect to see the same thing. So, you observe people for long enough, the LDH is going Over time, if people are not anemic and not being transfused and feeling well, then we've achieved all of the principal objectives of
Yes. And what's most exciting is we now have agreement with the FDA that hemoglobin is Primary endpoint, change from baseline, which is really exciting.
Got it. Thank you for taking my questions.
Welcome. Welcome.
Thank you. Your final question comes from the line of Jonathan Wollibin of JMP Securities. Your line is open.
Hey, good morning and sharing my congrats on the strong launch. Just a few for me. I'm wondering if the $10,900,000 figure for Ladeo, if that's net of your royalty payment and if there's any meaningful contribution from the ATU in France?
Yes. So the $10,900,000 is not net of the royalty payments. The royalty payments are, Just as a reminder, 8.75 percent of those net revenues up to $350,000,000 and then once we get over $350,000,000 it drops down to $2,750,000,000 Where that hits is below the line between operating income and net income Basically as an interest expense John? In terms of the ATU, no nothing meaningful.
That was all U. S. Sales at $10,900,000
Great. And then, just one question on the market. With you're seeing patients switch from acute, If you have any sense on the percentage of patients now of all HAE patients who are on prophylaxis and where do you think that kind of levels out in the future
Good question, John. So As I mentioned, what we see we're very confident that at the time of the Orlovale launch, about 60% of U. S. HAE patients were on prophylaxis. And so as patients also switch from acute therapy only to Orlandeo, that number is going to grow.
And what physicians tell us is that in the future, That it's about 80% of patients they expect 80% of patients to be treated with PROFACE. So the acute market is shrinking every day. And we expect that same kind of trend to occur in Europe after our launch there. And it's turning out that the market research that Charlie has been doing is playing out in the marketplace.
Perfect. Well, thanks for taking the questions and congrats again.
Thanks, John. Thanks, John.
Thank you. There are no further questions at this time. I will now turn the call back to John Stonehouse for closing remarks.
So I've done a lot of earnings calls in my 14 years at BioCryst and I got to say this is one of The most fun and exciting ones that I've been a part of. We've got a great launch with a great product and a great team And we're just getting started. And so it's really exciting to have a product that's generating real revenue. We have a green light to go into pivotal With our next program, that's an entire pipeline in a molecule. And so we're going to be starting up pivotal studies later this year.
So it doesn't get a whole lot better than that. And our focus now is execution. I'm just so proud of the team And just incredible focus and execution that they've delivered on and will continue to deliver on. So Thanks for your interest in our company and have a great day.
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