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Earnings Call: Q4 2018

Feb 5, 2019

Speaker 1

Good afternoon, and welcome to the Bloom Energy 4th Quarter 2018 Earnings Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. Later, we will conduct a question and answer session and instructions will follow at that time. As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Mark Mosler, Vice President of Finance and Investor Relations at Bloom Energy.

Please go ahead.

Speaker 2

Thank you. Good morning all and thank you for joining us on Bloom Energy's 4th quarter 2018 earnings conference call. To supplement this conference call, we have posted to our Investor Relations Web call. Our Q4 2018 shareholder letter as well as supplemental financial information that we will periodically reference throughout this call. Call.

Please note that this call contains forward looking information regarding future events and the future financial performance of the company. Call. We caution you that such statements are predictions based on management's current expectations or beliefs. Actual results may differ materially as a result of risks and uncertainties that pertain to our business. We refer you to the company's SEC filings, including the company's quarterly report on Form 10 Q for the fiscal quarter ended December 30, 2018.

These documents discuss important factors that could cause actual results to differ materially Form those obtained in the company's projections or forward looking statements. We assume no obligation to revise any forward looking statements made on today's call. Call. During this call, in our Q4 2018 shareholder letter, we refer to GAAP and non GAAP financial measures. Call.

These non GAAP financial measures are not prepared in accordance with generally accepted accounting principles. A reconciliation between GAAP and non GAAP is included as part of our Q4 for 2018 Shareholder Letter. Joining me on the call today are KR Sridhar, Principal Co Founder and Chief Executive Officer for Bloom Randy Ferrer, Chief Financial Officer and Matt Ross, Chief Marketing Officer. KR and Randy will review the operating and financial highlights of the quarter, Call. I will now turn the call over to KR.

Speaker 3

Hello. This is KR. Good afternoon to all of you, and welcome to our Q4 2018 conference call. I'm very excited to share with you my perspective on our Q4 and FY 2018 results, capping our 1st fiscal year as a public company. Call.

As we enter 2019, we have a strong foundation in the fundamentals of our business. 1, A strong and increasingly diversified sales backlog reflecting the mainstream appeal of our offering. 2, continued cost reduction and 3, a unique, innovative and proven technology platform in the Bloom Energy Server. As you know, we provide 3 key benefits that our customers highly value today. Call.

1, lower cost of power 2, lower emissions and 3, Higher resiliency, including the option for uninterruptible always on power. It is clear that this value proposition Call is relevant and important to an expanding customer base. I'll focus on 4 key areas with you today: Growth, quality and diversification of our backlog, cost reduction and Outlook for 2019. Let's start with growth. We grew 2018 acceptances call by 30% or 187 systems in comparison to 2017.

In 2018, Call. We had 809 acceptances compared to 622 in 2017. Call. In Q4 2018, we grew acceptances by 28% or 56 systems Q4 2017. We had a record 257 acceptances in Q4 2018 compared to $201,000,000 for Q4 2017.

We are very happy with this growth. Call. When we look ahead to 2019, key metrics to consider are the product and install backlog volume and Quality of Debt Backlog. I'm pleased to tell you that we exited 2018 with a strong product and install backlog Call of 1384 systems, 70% higher volume than our actual customer acceptances in 2018. Call.

Based on this product and installed backlog, plus anticipated bookings that we expect will convert to acceptances Call. This year, we expect to have year over year total percentage revenue growth in 2019 in the 20s. Now let's look at the quality of our backlog. Diversity of sectors, Geographies and the potential for future growth in these areas are key metrics to evaluate the quality of product and install backlog. Call.

We have executed on a deliberate strategy to diversify our growth opportunities Call as our value proposition becomes more mainstream, both geographically and by industry sector. Call. Data tells the story. In 2011, 100% of our acceptances were in California. Call.

In 2017, that number was still 87% and in 2018, it was 42%. Call. Our backlog exiting 2018 suggests that our acceptances in California will be less than 30% of our total 2019 acceptances and not more than 15% in any single utility service territory in the state. Call. We view this diversification to be very important to our business.

When we look outside of California, Call. Our backlog shows good geographic diversity in 6 Northeastern States, Japan and South Korea. Call. Like many companies you're familiar with, Bloom's business today has seasonality to it. Call.

If you consider years 2016, 2017 2018, our average acceptances in Q4 cumulatively Conference were higher by over 50% than our cumulative acceptances for the Q1 period in the same years. Call. In general, second half acceptances are significantly higher than first half acceptances for Bloom. Call. We expect 2019 will follow the same cadence and in fact will be impacted even more by seasonality Call.

As our product and install backlog expands in the Northeast, where we face winter weather challenges such as the recent polar vortex Call as opposed to the milder construction friendly winters in California. Our business in Korea will help to mitigate this in Q1 2019. Also, when we look at our current bookings, new orders Conference and a highly diversified set of industries, including data center, cloud services, healthcare, Call. Retail, Hospitality, Advanced Manufacturing, Higher Education, Call. Real Estate, Government and Utilities.

This diversification mitigates our exposure to any one location, Call. Any one utility service area or market sector. We have intentionally built this diversity into our product and install backlog and it enables us to sustain ups and downs in Call. Let me take a few moments to talk about the momentum we have in the Korea market. We see Korea as a very attractive market to grow our business now and in the future.

Call. We achieved our first order in South Korea in December 2017. That 8.35 Megawatt project with Cowen Call is now operational less than a year after the PO. In November 2018, Call. We announced a strategic agreement with SK, the 3rd largest company in South Korea to be our preferred distributor of Bloom Energy Solutions in Korea.

Call. In December 2018, with SK, we won 4 utility scale projects call with customers including Korea Telecom and Korea Midlands Power, a KEPCO power generation company. Call. We plan to fulfill these orders in Q1 2019 to establish our brand and reputation in a strategic growth market Call as well as mitigate weather related risks in the Northeast in Q1. We see it as a worthwhile and prudent investment.

These acceptances will be below the margin targets Call for the rest of our expenses. Additionally, we will have non recurring expenses Call relating to certification costs to operate in Korea and the establishment of an infrastructure for operating and maintaining our energy servers Call. The non recurring cost impact and lower ASPs will be reflected in our margin guidance for Q1. Call. We consider this an investment that will pay off as early as the second half of this year, and we expect our margins in Korea call to be in line with our corporate targets.

To further fuel our growth, it is the right time for us to be investing in sales and Call. Historically, our investment in sales and marketing has been modest, call, well below typical investments in this area for a disruptive innovation company like Bloom. We are now carefully investing in the areas that will help us to enter new markets and expand our penetration in existing markets. Call. Now let us turn to cost reduction.

While we are continuing to reduce cost in our Bloom 5.0 commercial platform, Call. As discussed previously, we have ramped up R and D on our new 7.5 platform. Call. We are on track with our plans on this very important program. We are ramping up our R and D in 2019 to build 7.5 prototype units.

Bloom 7.5 should offer our customers call. More power in the same footprint and with the further increase in our already world leading fuel efficiency. Call. This platform will also enable us to continue to drive product and service costs down significantly. Call.

Consider this, Bloom 7.5 should deliver 50% more power Conference in the same physical footprint as our current generation, bringing about a step change Call. Introducing our product cost. This combined with continued manufacturing process innovation and volume growth Call. Give us very high confidence about continuing our rapid cost down trajectory. Call.

While we are investing in our technology to drive cost reduction, we are also investing in R and D Call to broaden our offerings for the future. An example is our investment in biogas initiatives, Enabling us to provide expanded net zero carbon solutions. For our customers, Call. Biogas fuels always on Bloom solutions deliver uninterruptible 20 fourseven power, enabling them Call to both lower their emissions and to power through events that otherwise would pose a risk of operational disruption. Call.

We believe now is the time to press our innovation advantage and to lengthen our lead in Power Solutions that combine low or no emissions with always on resilience. Call. For this reason, we are also investing in a range of always on solutions Call. We hope to announce some exciting customer events in 2019. Call.

Now let's summarize what all this means for 2019. Based on our product and install backlog, Call. I expect to see revenue growth in the mid-twenty percentage points year over year. Call. I also expect our gross margins to be in the mid-20s in the second half of twenty nineteen.

Call. Together, these expectations should put us well on our way to our long term business model of 30% revenue growth and 30% gross margin. Our actions and investments are geared to provide Call. Not only healthy growth and margin, but also a diversified portfolio of opportunities that has the potential to make our business Call. More predictable and less susceptible to localized market and geographic disruptions.

Call. With that perspective, I would like to invite Randy Furr, our Chief Financial Officer to walk you through our operating results Call for Q4 and estimates for Q1 2019. Over to you, Randy.

Speaker 4

Thanks, KR. Throughout my prepared comments, I'll be referring to the slides in the earnings call presentation that Mark referred to earlier. Call. First, some highlights. Note that all profit numbers that I reference will exclude stock based compensation.

So on to Slide 3. Call. In summary, a very respectable quarter. Acceptances were 257 systems, a record. Revenue was 213,600,000 Call up sequentially by 12.3%.

Non GAAP gross margin come in at 18.1%. Call. Our non GAAP operating income was $4,700,000 with adjusted EBITDA coming in at $14,000,000 Call. Adjusted EPS was a loss of $0.12 Year end product and installed backlog rose almost 17% to 13 84 systems Call with an approximate dollar value of $773,000,000 And this backlog excludes any long term service agreements as we recognize those billings as occurred on an annual basis and it excludes quarter. As a reminder, service and electricity revenue in 2018 totaled 138,000,000 Call.

And we ended the quarter with $348,000,000 in cash and short term investments and this excludes $36,400,000 of PPA cash. In addition, given the December quarter was the Q4 of our fiscal year, Call. I wanted to share some annual highlights as well. Acceptances were 809 systems, a record as well and up 30% from 20 seventeen's 6 22 systems. Revenue totaled $742,000,000 for the year Call.

And this includes the one time top line benefit of $45,500,000 related to the federal ITC reinstatement Call as this was for 2017 ITC benefit that was received in Q1 of 2018. Call. Backing out that onetime benefit, the actual 2018 revenue was $697,000,000 a number that was up significantly from 20 seventeen's $376,000,000 where we did not have the federal ITC benefit. Call. Non GAAP gross margin come in at 21.4 percent.

Non GAAP operating income was 26,400,000 Call and adjusted EBITDA was $66,900,000 During our call last quarter, I walked you through our business model. Call. I explained how we define the term system here at Bloom, how an order gets into backlog, Call. What is meant by an acceptance and how our reliance upon third parties can impact the timing of those acceptances, Call. How the federal ITC impacts Bloom and how you need to factor in ratable versus upfront revenue recognition call when looking at historical financials.

As such, I am not going to dive into those topics today call and we'll move directly to providing some color on our Q4 results. As I mentioned last quarter, Call. We will only disclose our product and installation backlog once a year at year end. Conference Call. Once again, orders generally come in lumpy, but reporting on an annual basis helps us normalize that lumpiness.

Call. We ended the year with 13 84 systems and product and installed backlog, a 16.6% increase Call of the Twelvethirty Oneseventeen number and as KR mentioned in his prepared remarks, a backlog number that is over 70% higher than the 809 systems recognized as revenue in 2018. Call. Our backlog goal is to maintain 9 to 12 months of product and install backlog at any point in time call. And we're at the higher end of that window as we enter 2019.

Referring to Slide 4, Call. The 257 acceptances translated to $213,600,000 in revenue, up 12.3% from Q3's $190,200,000 and up significantly from last year's GAAP revenue of 123,300,000 Call. The quarter over quarter increase in revenue is attributable to the growth in acceptances, which includes the Korean orders. Call that because we are not responsible for the installation of these systems, our revenue recognition here is based Call. On when the systems are received at port and not when they're generating electricity like our U.

S. C and I business Conference, where we generally are responsible for the installation. On a year over year basis, from a GAAP perspective, Call. The majority of the increase was attributable to the realization of the federal investment tax credit, which was not available in 2017. Note from an operating metrics perspective and when measured against billings, year over year revenue growth for the quarter Conference was 65.2 percent with some of the increase due to the increase in acceptances, Call with the majority due to the reinstatement of ITC in 2018.

On to Slide 5. Call. Gross profit excluding stock based compensation was down from $39,500,000 in Q3 2018 call. 38.7 percent in Q4, a 2.1 percent sequential decrease. This was in line call with expectations as 58% of our Q4 acceptances were international where ASPs are lower.

Call. Year over year comparisons are not particularly meaningful given the absence of ITC in 2017. Call. As most of you know, we do provide some quarterly estimates and in our Q3 shareholder letter, we provided you with Q4 call. Average sale price estimates as well as average total installed system cost estimates.

For Q4 2018, both the ASPs Call. And the TISC came in line with those estimates. However, Call. As I previously emphasized, the real key metric here is the delta between the 2, which represents our margin on the equipment and installation Call of the acceptances during the quarter. The midpoint of the estimated ASP and TISC yielded a delta or margin segment of $14.55

Speaker 2

per kilowatt. Call. As you

Speaker 4

can see on Slide 5, our actual margin delta was $14.12 call, a number generally in line with the midpoint of our estimate. As you can see on Slide 6, Call. Non GAAP operating income for Q4 was $4,700,000 excluding stock based compensation. Call. This is down $900,000 from Q3's $5,600,000 again reflecting the mix of international shipments for Q4.

Call. The $4,700,000 operating profit is up considerably from Q4 2017's operating income loss realized both Call from a non GAAP and an operating metric standpoint, again, primarily due to the increase in acceptances and the reinstatement of ITC in 2018. Our adjusted EBITDA coming in at $14,000,000 for the quarter. Call. Non operating expenses were per plan and adjusted EPS come in at a loss of $0.12 call.

Turning to the balance sheet on Slide 7. We ended the quarter with $384,800,000 of cash and short term investments. Call. This includes $36,400,000 of PPA cash. So excluding PPA cash, we ended with $348,400,000 of cash and Short Term Investments.

Free cash flow, which we define as cash flow from operations less capital expenditures, was a negative $55,600,000 This use of cash reflected the mix of international revenue for the quarter. Call. The payment terms with our Korean partner specify 60 days after arrival at the shipping port. This contrasts Call. Our domestic revenue where we generally receive progress payments with the full amount of the contract received no later call, and 7 days after acceptance.

This mix translated to approximately $57,000,000 of Korean shipment related accounts receivable that was billed in Q4 and will be received in Q1. So Call. If we factor in the Korean receivable, we would have been cash flow neutral for the quarter. Call. With the exception of the accounts receivable just discussed, our working capital metrics came in line with expectations.

Referencing Slide 8, Call. Days of sales was up 8 days from Q3 to 27 days, again reflecting the international shipment terms. Call. Our days of inventory outstanding was down 14 days from Q3 to 73 days, this reflecting the record shipments and acceptances for the quarter. Our payable days was down from Q3 by one day to 33 days on normal business cycle variations.

Changing the conversation to our outlook. In Q1, we expect acceptances to be between 215 and 245, ASPs to be between 6,750,7,050 Call with our total installed system cost to be between $5,600,000 $5,900 I'd like to add some color to our outlook. Call. First, I'll start with acceptances. This is in the neighborhood of 10% lower than what we presently see as consensus for Q1.

Call. This simply reflects us being conservative given our past challenges in this area. Also included in our outlook are additional shipments to Korea. Call. A little over 50% of the quarter's total shipments will be destined for Korea in Q1.

This influences our ASPs a couple of ways. Call. First, we have no installation revenue for Korean revenue and that translates to a lower ASP as compared to United States revenue, keep in mind that we also have no installation cost as well. Call. 2nd, and as mentioned during last quarter's call, international shipments and revenue today carry an overall lower ASP than does domestic, call.

And that translates to a margin lower than our target. So then you might ask, why do any Korean volume today? Call. The reason is later this year, Korea should provide us with larger volumes as well as margins that will enable us Call to hit or exceed our communicated targeted margin. In addition to the lower acceptance volume included in our outlook for Q1, Call.

We are taking a volume hit to our quarterly total product cost as production builds in Q1 will be less than in Q4, Call. So less fixed cost absorption adding up to a higher quarter over quarter cost of goods sold as a percentage of revenue for the quarter. Call. This of course will start to move favorable beginning in Q2. I also want to add that we expect Call.

Operating expenses will be up approximately 12% quarter over quarter. This incremental spend Call. Is related to R and D as we ramp up our next generation Bloom Energy Server and invest in our always on solution and our new biogas product. Also contributing to the call. Additional operating expenses, our investments and our sales and marketing efforts.

Call. What all this adds up to is an expected non GAAP operating loss for Q1. Let me summarize what's driving that loss. Call. 1 is once again top line and mix related as our outlook represents 27 fewer systems at the midpoint of our estimates Call with a little over 50% of our revenue being Korea.

2, is the negative impact on cost call that comes from fixed cost absorption as a result of lower build volume. And this impacts profitability in the $3,000,000 range. Call. And finally, you need to factor in our planned additional investment in R and D and sales and marketing. This resulting in about a $4,000,000 impact relative to Q4 Operating Expense Spending.

I will close with some comments on the second half and full year for the 2019 year. Call. We have previously communicated our 30% growth and 30% non GAAP gross margin longer term goals. Call. We believe we are on a path to achieving both.

In fact, we believe for the second half of this year, Call. We will be solidly in the range of between 25% 30% for both revenue growth and non GAAP gross margin. Call. Once again, thank you for your time. And now I'd like to turn the call back to the operator for Q and A.

Speaker 1

Your first question comes from Paul Coster with JPMorgan. Your line is open.

Speaker 5

Yes. Thank you very much for taking my questions. I've got 2. You talked about Call. Higher margins on the South Korean product in the second half of the year.

Can you just elaborate a little bit on why the ASPs and margins are going to improve.

Speaker 4

Yes, Paul, good question. Look, it's fairly simple. We have an agreement. We know what our ASP is. That's not going to fluctuate.

Call. And we also have through our detailed budgeting process, a pretty good idea of where our call. Our product cost is going to be later in the year. And it's a simple difference between those two that gets us to where we're comfortable that That's going to be in the communicated targeted margin range that we had before. And why is cost coming down to Enable us to reach that is a lot to do with just our continued cost efforts down and the increased volume that we're going to have that's spread over a larger our fixed cost spread over a larger volume that's going to give us call.

That cost point that will let us achieve that targeted margin.

Speaker 5

Okay, got it. I've got a lot of other questions, but I'll confine myself to one other and that is No real commentary around the installation timelines and Delays or anything of that nature. It suggests to me that maybe you're starting to get on top of that part of your Business Challenge. Can you just tell us how we're doing in terms of sort of delivering in a timely manner and eliminating some of the variables that were Affecting the acceptances. This

Speaker 3

is KR. And Yes, there was a lot of speculation about given what we had done earlier, whether in Q4, we will meet our acceptance Call. And what was going on especially in California and how that would impact us. You can see from the numbers Call. We put in a strategy and we have added Call.

Both in terms of leadership as well as other important skill sets to that area and made Installation timeline, a key area of focus for the company, and we are beginning to see the results. Call. And stay tuned before the next earnings call, we may give you some Call. You will see that it's already paying very good dividends. And Andy, do you want to add?

Speaker 4

I'd just add that we

Speaker 3

call. We're trying to be conservative

Speaker 4

in our forecast and our outlook going forward and that's kind of reflected in the Q1 outlook as well.

Speaker 5

Call. We appreciate that, Randy. Thank you.

Speaker 1

Your next question comes from Pavel Molchanov with Raymond James. Your line is open.

Speaker 6

Call. Thanks for taking the question, guys. I know you're not explicitly guiding on TISC, but In Q1, you are indicating an uptick in that cost from Q4 levels. Call. Is it fair to say that once the start up issues in Korea subside, the downward trend in your TISC should resume?

Speaker 4

Yes. And I want to slightly word it. Call. You hit a very good point and you're on target. I want to slightly word it a little bit different.

It's not that we have Any start up issues in Korea, it's just that there is obviously any time you enter a new market, there is expenses associated with that. Call. As we all know, Bloom has come up, invented the concept of the power tower in Korea. And obviously, we have a large number of systems in Korea today and Call. The Korean electrical standards are different than, say, the U.

S. Standards and making sure all of our products conform Call. To those specifications and standards, there's some expense associated with that and we're experiencing some of that expense. But Call. Things are progressing and moving very, very well in Korea and we're very proud of those installations over there.

But you're right, there are some incremental expenses that we're seeing showing up in our cost of goods sold, which is being reflected in TISC here call. That you will not see later in the year.

Speaker 3

And the key point that Randy made is, again, I want to call. Emphasize, Powell, it's not an issue. It is a real nonrecurring expense in terms of a starting up in a new area Call. And the reason if you're looking for a data point Call. To give you confidence on there are no issues, you have to think about this, December of 2017 call.

And we had a purchase order due to a 8.3 megawatt power tower and by fall of Call. The following year and in less than 9 months, we had the system up and by the end of the quarter, we got certification and we were having that 1 tower operating, 1 of a kind, the very first time. And so Call. There are no issues, but there are startup costs associated with that.

Speaker 6

Okay. And one more regarding Korea, if I may. So to clarify, the distributorship that you announced today with SK D and D, That's a separate agreement versus another division of SK Group that you had announced last year. Is that right?

Speaker 3

That is absolutely correct. So our first agreement that we announced Call. SK E and C and they do utility scale projects, call. They do very large projects for large corporations, things of that nature. SK D and D is an independent Conference.

Separate business units still within the same conglomerate and SKD and D focuses on real estate and Large Buildings in Korea where they are the leader today in on-site energy management and Storage Solutions as well as Solar Solutions. And they are super excited Call. To bring a base load to that mix, thereby they can offer call. What will be truly microgrid solutions to a customer where they can have always on power in addition to benefiting from the lower carbon footprint. So this would be whatever opportunities come from this particular partnership will be additive call.

To what we have already signed on the utility scale with SKA and C, so you can see why we are super excited about Corie as a market. Call.

Speaker 6

Okay. Thank you very much guys.

Speaker 1

Your next question comes from Stephen Byrd with Morgan Stanley. Your line is open.

Speaker 7

Call. Hi, good afternoon.

Speaker 3

Good afternoon. Hello, Steve.

Speaker 7

I wanted to look at Q1 guidance, I believe a majority of the sales will be in Korea. And so I guess from a positive point of view that Call to me seems to highlight potentially less execution risk in terms of other projects. But I wondered if you could just talk at a high level in terms of Call. The kinds of execution risk to achieve on the balance, I guess, when you ship internationally, you are able to book those sales. But Call.

What is the degree of execution risk in your Q1? I know you've been asked in a variety of ways just to think about execution risk. Call. What kinds of challenges would you have if weather is not optimal or other kinds of risks? How should we think about sort of execution risk for the Q1?

Speaker 4

Call. Yes, again, great question and I'm going to give a kind of a little bit of an answer here. So bear with me a second. So Call. As we sometimes talk about, the great thing about Bloom is we have great technology, we have great manufacturing capabilities, Call.

Great quality and really the lead time from the time we get an order call. To the time that we recognize revenue on most of the U. S. C and I business call. There is very little time to manufacture the product and actually deliver them to the site and get them up and working and turned over.

2 thirds of the time or this 9 to 12 month timeframe that we take really centers around the design, Call. All the field work we need to do prior to that design and during the design, all the customer, landlord, utility, Government approvals for the building permit, all of that stuff usually takes 6 to 9 months to accomplish. Call. We in all of our installations, each site, we have a detailed project schedule and we go into that Call. Knowing a date, so 100 percent of our backlog today has a date out there that we think we're going to get an acceptance because we do that plan.

Call. But clearly, we deal with so many third parties that there's risk in that. And we've highlighted the risk, I think, last quarter call. To do with the hurricanes or the natural disasters, the wildfires, how utility crews are pulled off and sent to regions and these are the guys that call. Maybe come out and do the tie ins or do the inspections and it just plays havoc with the calendars, right?

And we have those issues. We don't want to miss our quarters. That's obvious. I mean, none of us want to do that. We feel bad and that's not our goal.

So how do we deal with that? And we deal with that by having a pool of systems. And every quarter, we come up with the pool. And this quarter, we had 257 Acceptance is there and I can tell you the pool was much larger than 257. And all we have to do is make sure that we yield a number out of that pool that lets us meet the expectations that are out there.

Call. How we deal with that is just as I said is that we try to have plenty of backups. So if something was to go wrong and these things that kind of go along that impact the timing of the acceptance are really to do with inspections from third parties call. And should something happen there that's not in accordance with our schedule and caused the project to be delayed, call. Then we have this other pool of systems that we can go to and rely upon to be able to make the quarter.

So what we're doing call. Certainly after last quarter is we're trying to be more conservative there with Call. The estimates there set are the outlook for the quarter based upon the size of the pool we have. But call. And we're trying to get better at execution and planning.

But with that said, it's inherent part of the business we have call. And the way we're going

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to deal with it is having this pool. So, Stephen, let me add to what Randy said. He covered most of the points. And in my opening remarks, when I made the comment of the importance of diversity, geographically, Call. A key underlying statement that I should have made probably and I will make it now When you look at it from an installations perspective particularly, okay.

And what do I mean by this is Call. Take Q1 as an example. I walk you through how Call. As we grow and become open up new markets, our reliance on Call. California in terms of the total acceptance has been diminishing all the way from 100% to less than 30% this year.

Call. Now that's a good thing, but also understand the other 6 states that we operate are in the Northeast. Call. And the East Coast, as we look at January, if January is any indication, we don't know what the Groundhog is going to do, whether Call. February March are going to be same as January or not.

So we have two choices here. Call. We can go to the international market and fulfill this or we can pay Call. Enormously large expedite charges to catch up for any weather related issues and still try to make our quarter in the East Coast Call. As long as our customer is willing to wait, there's no reason to go through those additional expenses, which will lead into the margin Call.

And you can swap things out back and forth. So having this flexibility of geography, multiple zones Call. It's really helpful and I think to Paul's question, we answered another question. We are doing 2 things Conference. One is trying to be really, really good even in the face of contingency of managing all these risks, call.

Making our execution really good within our installation group by adding skill sets, adding to the leadership, doing all that. Call. In addition to that, when we have optionality like what we have of international versus East Coast versus West Coast, Call. The combination of all these things is what ultimately will allow us to execute because Call. The uncertainties of a forest fire or somebody behind the desk in a city government call.

In the last minute denying you a permit or a utility person not showing up to give you a connection is something we eliminate. By using these strategies, we can still deliver on what we need to do and that's what we are focused on. Call. And we demonstrated that in Q4 since you asked, the forest fires did not hinder us from meeting the numbers we call put out for you in Q4. We're hoping to do the same thing in Q1.

Speaker 7

Call. It's extremely helpful color. Thank you very much. And then my next question is fairly high level. Just Conference Beyond Korea where you've had very clear success, would you mind just talking a little bit more internationally at where you're seeing the opportunity?

Call. Obviously, don't need to be too specific, but I'm just interested in what kind of international opportunities you're seeing, what are you most excited about call. Over time, not necessarily in any particular quarter, but just at a high level, what are you most

Speaker 3

Call. Steven, Matt's in the room and he is for those of you on the call, Call. Matt Ross is our Chief Marketing Officer and I'll have him answer this question.

Speaker 8

Thanks, Gar. Hi, Stephen. Call. Keep in mind, I think we made the statement earlier about very low investment in sales and marketing. So we pick our shots Call.

And we're very careful about doing that. We don't have the coverage to go broad. So we pick our shots very carefully. As you can see that Korea, Call. After being in that market for 1 year is already scaling very rapidly.

Another market that we see Call. Some real potential in for 2019 is Japan. And that's because Call. The development of the power tower that gives us a very effective energy dense platform for deploying in Japan. It opens up some of the kinds of opportunities We've seen grow very rapidly in the United States.

For example, edge data centers that are in dense urban areas, Call. Well, we can do that with the power tower now. So the economics for Japan are looking pretty favorable this year, Taking into account our general cost down as well. Another area is Quarter. So we see an opportunity in India, probably not very large numbers in the next couple of quarters, Call.

But strategically, again, very important. So those are a couple of examples. Call. There are 1 or 2 European markets that we're looking at very carefully. And so I hope that gives you some perspective.

Speaker 1

Call. Your next question comes from Tahira Afzal with KeyBanc. Your line is open. Call.

Speaker 9

Hi, Kiara. Team, nice to see you back on track. Congratulations on the installs.

Speaker 4

Thank you.

Speaker 9

Call. So, Kia, first question for you. If you say a year back from now and you see where your backlog is right now, Where does it surprise you in terms of where the orders have come in from?

Speaker 3

So call. We are extremely happy with the diversity that we have, both geographically Call as well as strong in various sectors. And so Call. What we are excited about without getting into the details right now, Tayra, is that we have Newer opportunities that we did not have before. So these are new avenues that we can explore.

But Equally thrilling for us is the 3 sectors we have talked to you in the past, which is Edge Data Centers, Healthcare and Retail, Call. They continue to be very strong for us and we expect that to grow. And I think you heard the comments from Matt. Call. There is an opportunity here for us to make a big difference in the data centers, not just in the U.

S, but because of the power tower, call maybe in Japan, which could potentially be a very large opportunity. But when I look back at our backlog, call. Very strong in the areas that we have been traditionally strong. Added to that is the geographic diversity and call. On top of that, you add some new areas we are super excited about growing in.

Speaker 1

Call. Your next question comes from the line of Michael Weinstein with Credit Suisse. Your line is open.

Speaker 10

Hi, guys. Conference. When you look at the backlog that would have existed or did exist back In the Q4 of 2017, the end of 2017 and that converting to 800 non acceptances this year or last year. What does that what can we infer about acceptances for 2019 versus the backlog that you now have of 1400?

Speaker 4

Call. Yes. Michael, I think that's a great question. So there is clearly some backlog that we have that we exited 2018 that will end up being early 2020 kind of revenue. But as we look through part of what was in the 809 and part of what we expect in 2019.

Call. There are additional incremental bookings that will come in, in Q1 and even later in the year Call that will end up being revenue that we will achieve in 2019. A great example Call. Our Korean orders for which usually they come in 1 quarter and are shipped the next quarter and recognized as revenue as an example. Call.

And we have pretty good visibility on what's going on in Korea for 2019. Call. So I think to walk away from that is, as we kind of said in our prepared remarks, our backlog is 70% north of what we had in our acceptances in 2018. We're Call. As we pointed out, a little bit better at our execution on the U.

S. C and I and we have the international where we don't do Call. It's not just Korea, also for Japan and regions as well. So we think it bodes well. We're not providing guidance for the call year.

But as we did say in the remarks by the second half of the year, we certainly think we'll be in that 25% to 30% revenue year over year growth range and even expecting some contraction year over year in the ASPs. We think that backlog bodes well for us to be able to achieve something

Speaker 3

Call. So I think in summary, what Randy is saying, based on our Exiting backlog and what we expect to be booked is the basis on which we expect call. Our second half growth to be the numbers that we gave you and we feel very good about where

Speaker 8

we are sitting right now.

Speaker 1

Call. Your next question comes from the line of Colin Rusch with Oppenheimer. Your line is open.

Speaker 11

Thanks so much. Guys, can you Talk a little bit about how bigger percentage of the backlog in the 2019 unit acceptances you're expecting to come from Korea?

Speaker 3

Conference. I want to make

Speaker 4

sure I understand the question. Call.

Speaker 11

Yes. I just want to understand how much of the backlog that you have is from the Korean customers and how much of the growth and the total acceptances you're expecting in 20

Speaker 4

Call. So look, the Korean backlog that we have today,

Speaker 3

I don't

Speaker 4

have that number in front.

Speaker 8

I have what it is today, which is

Speaker 4

Call. It's a high single digit number. High single digits that we have in backlog today

Speaker 8

as a percent.

Speaker 3

Call. But understand based on what Randy said, the Korean backlog comes in and out call. It's a pretty short shelf life.

Speaker 11

Yes. And then

Speaker 3

So don't take that number as indicative of what

Speaker 8

the business will be. Call.

Speaker 11

Yes. And then I guess the clarifying question, which I think is related here is how much of the acceptances you're expecting have in 2019 with the unit growth are you expecting from Korea?

Speaker 4

Look, we think Call. Our Korean revenue in 2019 will be north of 25%, maybe approaching 30% of 20 nineteen's total revenue.

Speaker 11

Okay. That's super helpful. And then I just want to make sure I understand the shipment terms really clearly. So You recognize revenue when the units get to the port in California and then the payment terms are call. 60 days after they arrive in Korea, is that correct?

Speaker 6

I just want to make

Speaker 11

sure that we understand the working capital needs accurately.

Speaker 4

Well, slightly changed from that. As you know, we build our units in Delaware, so we don't ship them across the country. Okay. Conference. We are getting close to Delaware.

And yes, once the title transfers, once they are at the port and put on a ship Call. Yes, go ahead, Matt. Yes, I was just going

Speaker 8

to jump in just because I live this every day. Corp. So our terms for acceptance last year were departure from U. S. Port in 2019, its arrival at Korean port, Simple as

Speaker 3

that. Yes.

Speaker 1

I apologize, but we've run out of time. I will now turn the call back over to the presenters.

Speaker 4

Call. Yes. We want to thank you for the time and Call. Appreciate your support, Bloom, and we look forward to talking to you throughout the quarter and the next call. Thank you.

Speaker 3

And I would like to add to what Randy said Conference. I would say that, look, our solution of always on low carbon footprint Call is more important than ever, not just in the U. S, but everywhere else. And I'm super excited that in more and more parts of the world, we are call. To be mainstream in more and more sectors.

And we look forward to growing this company with you. Call. And we are constantly making sure that while we're meeting our short term goals, we are focused on building a great company Call. And doing the right things to build a great company. Thank you.

Speaker 1

This concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect.

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