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Earnings Call: Q2 2018

Aug 2, 2018

Operator

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. My name is Suzanne, I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Brookfield Infrastructure Partners Q2 Earnings Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question during this time, simply press star, then the number one on your telephone keypad. If you would like to withdraw your question, please press the pound key. I would now like to turn the call over to Rene Lubianski, Senior Vice President, Corporate Development. Please begin.

Rene Lubianski
SVP of Corporate Development, Brookfield Infrastructure Partners

Thank you, operator. Good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us for Brookfield Infrastructure Partners' second quarter earnings conference call for 2018. On the call today is Bahir Manios, Chief Financial Officer, and Sam Pollock, Chief Executive Officer. We also are joined by Roberto Marcogliese, Deputy CIO of Data Infrastructure. Following their remarks, we look forward to taking your questions and comments. At this time, I'd like to remind you that in responding to questions and talking about our growth initiatives and our financial and operating performance, we may make forward-looking statements. These statements are subject to known and unknown risks, and future results may differ materially. For further information on known risk factors, I would encourage you to review our annual report on Form 20-F, which is available on our website. With that, I'll turn the call over to Bahir.

Bahir Manios
CFO, Brookfield Infrastructure Partners

Great. Thank you, Rene. Good morning, everyone. This morning, Brookfield Infrastructure reported solid results for the second quarter of 2018 as we generated funds from operations or FFO of $294 million, or $0.75 on a per unit basis. While FFO benefited from another period of solid organic growth, this quarter's results were impacted by the loss of income associated with the sale of assets and the time required to redeploy those significant proceeds into new investments. As this happens, our payout ratio is expected to return to our target levels over the next few quarters. We continue to execute on our strategy to constantly be positioning this business for long-term growth.

During the quarter, we progressed a number of investment initiatives. We currently have an advanced pipeline of investment opportunities totaling approximately $1.7 billion, of which approximately $1.3 billion has been earmarked for three recently announced transactions that will expand our energy and data infrastructure operating groups. Sam will speak to these investments in more detail later in the call. These new investments, coupled with the strong backlog of capital projects we have across our operating groups, should allow us to meaningfully grow our cash flows in the years ahead. Funding for these investments will come from the almost $4 billion of liquidity that currently sits on our balance sheet as at period end.

I'll now spend some time and walk you through our financial results, both on an overall basis as well as on a segmented basis, and also provide some key operational updates that relate to a number of our operating groups. Overall, our FFO in the period was $294 million, which benefited from organic growth of 8% on a comparable basis to 2017, as well as contributions from new investments. Our FFO was reduced by approximately $26 million as a result of the appreciation of the US dollar relative to the Australian dollar, the pound sterling, and the Brazilian real. Our utility segment generated FFO of $139 million compared to $168 million in the same period last year.

Overall results for the segment were lower than the prior year, primarily due to the impact of the sale of an electricity transmission business in Chile, a debt financing recently completed at our Brazilian regulated gas transmission business, and the impact of foreign exchange. Underlying performance, however, for this operating group was solid, as FFO on a comparable same-store basis increased by 6% over the second quarter of 2017, primarily due to substantial connection activity in our U.K.-regulated distribution business and capital commission into the rate base over the past 12 months. During the quarter, we closed on an acquisition of our controlling interest in Gas Natural Colombia, the second largest gas distribution network in the country, for a total equity investment of approximately $310 million, with BIP's share of that being $90 million.

The closing occurred concurrently with Colombia receiving its official approval for OECD inclusion, which is an important achievement for the country, which should have a positive long-term impact on all of our Colombian businesses. Our transport segment contributed FFO of $133 million, which was relatively consistent with the prior year levels. Improved performance was predominantly driven by inflationary tariff increases and higher volumes at our toll road businesses. These positive effects were more than offset by the impact of foreign exchange and a nationwide truck driver strike in Brazil. This strike occurred over 11 days during the quarter. Given the importance of truck-based transportation to Brazil's economy, this event had a significant, though short-lived, impact on the flow of goods in the country, which resulted in lower than planned volumes at both our toll road and rail businesses.

The strike, which was centered around rising fuel prices, was resolved by the government agreeing to reinstate a portion of historical fuel subsidies for a period of time. While the strike reduced our second quarter results by approximately $8 million, traffic at our toll roads returned to normal levels shortly after the strike ended. At our Australian rail business in Australia, there was a favorable development with one of our iron ore customers that will result in an overall net positive impact relative to what we reported last quarter. During the period, a mine that was slated to close prematurely was sold to a new owner who intends to operate the mine for the balance of the remaining five to six-year life.

A new four-year contract was signed, which is forecasted to contribute AUD 5 million of revenue in the fourth quarter of this year at approximately AUD 20 million on a full year basis. Those numbers are in Australian dollars. In addition, we are continuing discussions with another large customer about their rail requirements for a potential expansion project at their mine. Our rail business in Australia is the sole provider of rail infrastructure in the southwestern region of that country. Despite a relatively low population base, it's prolific in agricultural and mining resources. Our view is that while there may be variations in annual harvest and ore production from time to time, the region will remain an important global long-term supplier of grain, iron ore, and aluminum. Our energy segment reported FFO of $54 million in the second quarter.

This represents a 26% increase over the same period in the prior year, reflecting a higher contribution from our North American gas transmission business due to increased gas transport volumes and lower leverage levels. Our district energy operations also performed well, while results at our gas storage business continue to be impacted by a weaker gas spread environment relative to last year. Our North American natural gas transmission business continues to benefit from robust global demand for natural gas and a material ramp-up in U.S. production. The business finalized terms for a second phase of its Gulf Coast expansion, which will require the deployment of approximately $230 million of capital at attractive risk-adjusted returns. BIP's share of that would be $150 million.

The project is backed by a long-term take-or-pay contract to transport gas to liquefied natural gas or LNG, and an export facility is expected to have a mid-year 2021 in-service date. The business is also progressing capacity improvement projects that will enhance deliverability in key supply regions. These works require minimal capital investment and are backed by multi-year customer contracts that will meaningfully contribute to our results. I also wanted to highlight that subsequent to quarter end, this business's credit rating was upgraded to BBB- by S&P Global Ratings. Our data infrastructure business in France contributed FFO of $19 million for the period, which was consistent with the prior year. Our business is progressing its build-to-suit program, where new towers are built based on the requirements of mobile network operators. The business has delivered over 200 new towers since the program began, with strong co-location rates.

Based on the existing backlog, the program should add another 220 new towers over the remainder of the year. Additionally, the rollout of the fiber to the home projects is now underway, with the commercial launch of our first secured tender at Val-d'Oise beginning in July. We forecast that these combined projects will grow the business's results by 15% on a full run rate basis once commissioned, expected in 2022. Finally, before I turn the call over to Sam, I want to touch on the state of our balance sheet and provide some color with respect to our financial risk management activities. We ended the quarter in a strong financial position, with total liquidity of $4 billion, of which approximately $3 billion was at the corporate level. With this level of liquidity, we're able to fully fund all our committed transactions and organic growth backlog.

Even though we currently carry excess liquidity, we're progressing our next phase of capital recycling with a target of approximately $1 billion of proceeds over the next six to 12 months in order to realize on mature investments and to replenish our resources to fund further growth initiatives that we have on the go on an accretive basis. The debt capital markets remain quite healthy and open for new issuances, but we've seen a higher volatility more recently in the foreign exchange markets. From a financial risk management perspective, we continue to actively manage our debt maturity profile and lock in foreign-denominated FFO to US dollars over a period of 24 months to reduce exposure to rising interest rates and to minimize currency volatility in our cash flows.

Our debt maturities are well-laddered with only approximately 5% of debt maturing in the near term and no significant individual maturity in the next five years. Outside of Brazil, where the recent economic recovery has led to a meaningful decline in interest rates, 90% of our debt is fixed. This is the result of our efforts to lock in rates to benefit from a historically low interest rate environment over the past several years. As we've communicated in the past, substantially all of our foreign-denominated cash flows outside of South America and India are hedged for the next 24 months. Recently, we made the decision to hedge a portion of our near-term cash flows from Chile, Colombia, and Peru. Interest rate differentials have narrowed, meaning that the cost to hedge these currencies has come down significantly.

We're also noting similar trends in Brazil and India, although hedging costs remain somewhat elevated for these currencies, we're closely monitoring opportunities to cost effectively hedge cash flows coming out of these businesses in these regions. With that, thanks for your time this morning, I will turn it over to Sam.

Sam Pollock
CEO, Brookfield Infrastructure Partners

Great. Thank you, Bahir, good morning, everyone. I'm going to take a few minutes to provide an update on the strategic initiatives we have underway, all of which we are very excited about, then I'll provide a bit of an outlook for the business in the current economic environment. It has been a very active and successful period for advancing several investment initiatives. Our current pipeline of advanced transactions totals approximately $1.7 billion. We have signed binding agreements for three opportunities, representing $1.3 billion, and we have a further $400 million of initiatives under exclusivity and in the final stages of due diligence. Our primary objective is to invest globally at the best risk-adjusted returns, meaning we are typically agnostic about our geographic mix of assets.

However, we are pleased to have recently secured three large-scale North American investments, a U.S. data center business, a Western Canadian midstream business, and a North American residential energy infrastructure business. I will describe all three of those momentarily. These investments are the outcome of substantial efforts to focus specifically on the data infrastructure and energy sectors, respectively, where we have recently been observing good value opportunities in the market. Another contributing factor to our success has been the ability to apply our expertise in executing carve-out transactions. In the case of the data center and midstream businesses, we are acquiring assets from large industrial companies. While these companies do not consider these businesses to be strategic to them, we are excited about the potential to own and operate them. Although each of these businesses has its own distinct investment attributes, more broadly, we like carve-out transactions for the following reasons.

First, carve-out transactions tend to attract few financial investors, and therefore valuations are generally less robust. This is normally the case because there is additional complexity in valuing assets that need to be separated from a larger concern, and often there is a requirement to bring new management into the business. Many financial investors do not have this capability or interest. Businesses that are deemed non-core by large companies may receive less management attention and capital resources, and thus a new owner with expertise and financial resources can add significant value. Lastly, we believe that businesses that are run in a decentralized manner by highly motivated and accountable executives can create value through close attention to margins and customer needs.

Now I'm going to take a bit of a break and I'm going to turn the call over to our guest speaker this quarter, Rob Marcogliese, and he's our Deputy Chief Investment Officer for Data Infrastructure. What I've asked him to do is to discuss what we're seeing in data infrastructure sectors and, more specifically, to talk about our recent U.S. data center acquisition. Then I'll come back, and I'll talk about our two recent energy investments. With that, I'll turn it over to Rob.

Roberto Marcogliese
Deputy CIO of Data Infrastructure, Brookfield Infrastructure Partners

Great. Thank you, Sam, and good morning, everyone. As you may recall, during the 2017 Investor Day presentation, we identified the exponential growth in data usage worldwide as a significant opportunity for us, in particular, the opportunities around the large-scale infrastructure investments that will be required to support the transportation and storage of this data like any other commodity. Over the last few years, we have made several investments in data infrastructure assets, primarily to support the transportation of data. Our U.K. regulated distribution business is deploying fiber to the home or FTTH networks as part of its multi-utility offering and in response to customer demand for faster and more reliable broadband solutions.

Our French data infrastructure business is the leading independent broadcast and telecom tower operator in France, with over 7,000 towers and active rooftop sites, and is currently rolling out core fiber to the home networks as part of the French government's broadband plan, which will seek to connect over 7,000 households in the next few years. During the quarter, we reached a significant milestone by broadening our existing data infrastructure sector exposure into the data storage segment. In June, we signed an agreement to acquire 100% of a portfolio of data centers from AT&T for $1.1 billion, or $560 million of equity, of which BIP's share would be approximately $160 million. We believe we have found a scalable business at an attractive entry point.

The transaction is a carve-out from AT&T, which requires us to assemble an experienced management team and dedicated sales function. We believe this complexity allowed us to buy the business at an attractive entry point, especially relative to recently announced transactions in the segment that did not have similar considerations. The business was no longer core to AT&T and allows them to redeploy the proceeds for other purposes. Before I discuss the transaction in more detail, I wanted to elaborate on which areas of the data center market we are primarily focused on. We are targeting investments in retail colocation and wholesale or hyperscale facilities because they offer attractive infrastructure characteristics with limited technology risk as the servers and IT equipment are owned by the client.

Retail colocation facilities, such as the ones we are buying from AT&T, benefit from a diverse customer base as multiple enterprise tenants are hosted in each data center location. On the other hand, wholesale data centers are large-scale facilities typically leased out to a single tenant, such as an Amazon or Microsoft, under a long-term contract. Turning our attention back to the AT&T transaction, it allows us to establish a large retail colocation data center platform from which we can grow accretively. The business benefits from the following key attributes. First, the portfolio includes 31 data centers, which provides us with a strong presence in most of the major global financial hubs in North America, Europe, and Asia-Pacific. The centers are located on five continents, in 11 countries, and within 26 metro markets, with the vast majority of the assets and revenue coming from the U.S.

That's about 85% from the U.S. on the revenue side. Second, the customer base is large and well-diversified, comprised of over 1,100 companies representing multiple industries as well as the U.S. federal government. AT&T will remain the single largest tenant and a key strategic partner going forward, given its existing data center connectivity solution. Lastly, the retail colocation sector is expected to experience strong growth, driven by a continued trend of companies outsourcing their data center requirements and increasing workloads. With the build-out of a specialized team, we believe the business will be positioned to capture the future growth given the unutilized existing capacity, which can be leased out with limited incremental capital investments, and several of the data centers can be expanded in a cost-efficient manner to meet rising demands.

Furthermore, there will be opportunities to enhance the portfolio by building new facilities or making small tuck-in acquisitions to strengthen our presence in existing markets or enter new regions. With data expected to be the fastest-growing commodity in the world for the foreseeable future, the long-term fundamentals for data infrastructure assets remain very attractive. For context, over the last two years alone, 90% of the data in the world was created, and we expect that growth to continue with greater smartphone penetration, increasing video consumption, and new and evolving use cases such as Internet of Things, artificial intelligence, and other applications that depend on low latencies. To make the growth more concrete, we can look at our existing asset portfolio.

The volume being handled on our U.K. fiber to the home networks alone is almost 250 GB per month per household, which compares to the U.K. national average of 160 GB in 2016. Similarly, in France, wireless customers using 4G networks consume on average 5.8 GB per month in the first quarter of 2018, which is up almost 60% per annum over the last two years. In order to capitalize on this growth trend, we will seek to leverage our key competitive advantages. The first relates to operational complexity, which is a familiar theme that we have discussed in the past. With respect to the AT&T transaction, this was a corporate carve-out of a non-core asset from a large corporation.

We believe we were able to acquire the business at an attractive entry point with little competition by virtue of the fact that the business did not include a management team or a sales force, both of which we had to put in place ourselves. Second, emerging markets such as South America and Asia-Pacific are benefiting from similar trends as those that we are witnessing in North America and Europe. These regions are actually several years behind from a data infrastructure perspective, and therefore, we will need massive investments in the networks that transmit and store data. Given our long history of investing in these regions and our extensive local presence, we believe we are well-positioned to identify attractive growth. In particular, the wholesale data center market represents an attractive growth opportunity in emerging markets as there is a limited install base capacity today.

Lastly, our ability to invest in scale and be a single partner of choice for sellers and partners continues to result in unique investment opportunities. With the AT&T acquisition, we are now invested across all three of our target data infrastructure segments, being tower infrastructure, fiber, and data centers. We believe we are well-positioned to leverage our growing sector expertise to identify attractive investment opportunities that utilize our key competitive advantages. With that, I'll now hand it back to Sam.

Sam Pollock
CEO, Brookfield Infrastructure Partners

Okay, thanks, Rob. Now, let's move on to our other investments in the quarter. In July, we entered into a definitive agreement to acquire 100% of Enbridge's Western Canadian natural gas gathering and processing business for about $3.3 billion with a total equity investment of about $1.8 billion. Approximately $540 million of that will be funded by BIP. This business is the largest independent operation of its kind in Canada. It's strategically positioned for continued development of what we think is a prolific but largely untapped Montney region of British Columbia and Alberta. The business is comprised of 19 natural gas processing facilities with total operating processing capacity of 3.3 billion cubic feet per day and over 3,500 kilometers of gathering pipelines. It is well-connected to major demand markets, including the U.S. Pacific Northwest, U.S. Midwest, and Alberta, giving producers multiple egress options.

Over 85% of 2018's revenue is comprised of fee-based take-or-pay contracts, and it has a weighted average remaining contract life of 10 years. This business is an ideal platform to establish our midstream presence in Canada, as it's competitively positioned for growth given the highly economic acreage throughout the Montney region. We believe the region's massive scale and low breakeven cost will ensure that it continues to be a focal point for development by top-tier producers, with over 40 years of anticipated economic drilling inventory at current price levels. Production in the Montney is anticipated to grow by approximately 20%+ over the next 7-10 years, and we believe the catchment area of the business overlies more than 35,000 potential future wells, representing approximately 60% of the region's gas resources. This transaction is expected to close in 2 stages due to separate provincial and federal approval processes.

Closing for the provincially regulated business, comprising about 60% of cash flows, is expected to occur in the fourth quarter of this year, and closing for the federally regulated business, comprising the remaining 40% of the cash flows, is expected to occur in the first half of 2019. Yesterday, we announced the acquisition of 100% of the outstanding shares of Enercare, a leading provider of essential residential energy infrastructure such as water heaters, heating, ventilation, air conditioning, and other home services across Canada and the U.S. The total enterprise value of the company is CAD 4.3 billion or about $3.3 billion, and this will have a total equity commitment of about $2.3 billion, of which approximately $630 million will be funded by BIP. It operates in a sector that we understand very well, having reviewed the opportunity to acquire another market player in the past.

It also offers many parallels to our U.K. regulated distribution business, given the similarity in approach and sales channel utilized to deliver these services. Enercare is a high-quality, annuity-like business with a well-established market position. The business has been around in some form or fashion for over 50 years and currently has about 1.2 million rental units. From installation, these assets provide revenues underpinned by long-term inflation-linked contracts over many years. Recurring revenues from equipment rentals and protection plans generate approximately 80% of the company's revenue, resulting in predictable long-term cash flows. We see strong growth prospects for the business given the relative under-penetration of HVAC rentals, thereby presenting growth opportunities in the company's home market of Canada and significant potential upsides from the growth of the more recently acquired HVAC sales and servicing business in the U.S.

In addition, there are a number of Brookfield management businesses that we believe can be leveraged to further enhance the growth prospects of the business. The transaction is expected to close in the fourth quarter of 2018. To wrap up, I'll shift gears a little bit and talk about the current economic environment and our plans for the balance of the year. Looking ahead, we expect global macroeconomic and political uncertainties may continue to dominate the news cycle. So far this year, headlines have been consumed by geopolitical events surrounding North Korea, rising interest rates and inflation, and more recently, there's been a lot of talk about the possibility of a trade war due to the introduction of import tariffs. However, with the business conditions generally good and conducive to solid growth, we feel that our outlook is very positive.

While the risk of a prolonged trade war could have an impact on global economic activity, that would be hard to predict. We believe our business is, for the most part, insulated, given our predominantly regulated and contracted cash flow streams, as well as our well-diversified operations and our strong balance sheet that Bahir spoke to. In the first half of 2018, we raised approximately $1.6 billion of capital from the sale of Transelec and the refinancing of our Brazilian regulated gas transmission utility. As indicated last quarter, these capital raises result in a near-term drag on results. The impact of these initiatives on our FFO is approximately $31 million per quarter and approximately 8% yield on proceeds raised. However, we are now well on our way to redeploying the proceeds into higher-returning investments.

In that regard, our $1.7 billion of committed and advanced initiatives should be fully deployed over the next 12 months. On average, we believe these investments will earn initial going-in FFO yields of approximately 10% and generate substantially higher same-store growth over time than we would have earned from Transelec. Our investment pipeline also includes other attractive but less advanced transactions that should result into investment opportunities over the coming quarters. Our primary focus for the balance of the year is to close our recently signed transactions, progress our pipeline of other advanced transactions to signing, and execute our asset management strategies to drive value within our operating businesses. With that, I'll now turn it back over to the operator, and we'll open the line for Q&A.

Operator

Thank you very much. At this time, if you would like to ask a question, please press star, then the number 1 on your telephone keypad. We'll pause for just a moment while we compile a Q&A roster. Again, another star, then the number 1 on your telephone keypad. Your first question comes from the line of Dennis Coleman from the Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Your line is open.

Dennis Coleman
Analyst, Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Yes. Hi, good morning. Just wanted to ask a little bit about the acquisition from yesterday. You're viewing this as more of something that akin to your U.K. business, not the district energy business? Is that correct?

Sam Pollock
CEO, Brookfield Infrastructure Partners

Yes. Hi, Dennis, it's Sam here. Yeah, I would describe this as having more similarities to our U.K. business, in the sense that most of what we provide in our U.K. businesses are services to households where we provide electricity, gas, water, and fiber connections. We have a retail-facing component there where we interact with customers. We bill them directly in some cases for fiber and water. We have a number of service technicians that deal with that business. It's a large book of annuity-like cash flows. Now, in the case of the U.K. business, it's a regulated cash flow stream. The only difference with the Enercare business here in Canada and the U.S. is that it's an unregulated book of business. It has very long-term cash flows that are very predictable, and as we mentioned, the business has been around for 50 years.

The only difference is it's an unregulated cash flow stream. Whereas our U.K. business is a regulated cash flow stream.

Dennis Coleman
Analyst, Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Okay. You talked about some synergies or perhaps ways to capitalize it with some of your other assets. Would sort of the district energy model be part of that? Can you expand on what you mean by some of those other areas?

Sam Pollock
CEO, Brookfield Infrastructure Partners

Yes. Again, our district energy business here in North America is more of a B2B business. We generally connect various buildings and institutional properties into our systems, whether it be here in Toronto or in Boston, Houston, or other parts of the United States. Whereas, the types of businesses that we'll be able to leverage to grow the Enercare business will likely be some of the utility companies that we're associated with. One in particular, Vistra Energy in the United States, has a very large retail business with close to 3 million residential customers. We feel that there could be a great opportunity to work with them in a synergistic fashion to tap into this customer base to drive more sales. That would be one that's very exciting and one that, once the transaction closes, we hope to engage in discussions with them.

In addition, there's a relatively small, but we think a very quick, fast-growing business, a sub-metering business that Enercare owns that we're hoping we can leverage our condominium services business that we own in Brookfield and our large multi-family presence across North America that we can drive more sales to that sub-metering business. Of course, we have a large residential home building business, and many of the leads and adoptions that come from the home builders in the Enercare business. Obviously, we hope to increase the market share that we get from the Brookfield-related companies. So home building company. That's kind of the strategy. It's much less focused on the district energy side and more on those types of businesses.

Dennis Coleman
Analyst, Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Great. That's helpful. Switching gears a little bit to the Canadian midstream. I wonder if you might just talk a little bit about your natural gas outlook for North America there. Obviously, that's a key point, and you mentioned the economics of Montney gas. Can you talk about break evens and maybe talk about how you think about the longer-term outlook for natural gas in North America? Because clearly that underlies this investment.

Sam Pollock
CEO, Brookfield Infrastructure Partners

Yeah. First, our existing business, NGPL, that we own with Kinder Morgan in the U.S., has been performing exceptionally well. With the significant demand in the Gulf Coast from LNG and sales into Mexico, we've been able to secure a number of take or pay contracts to drive volumes down there, and we just see that continuing. We are very optimistic they'll continue to grow our transportation volumes on that system over the next couple of years and continue to see growth there. We see very similar dynamics in Western Canada. I think the enthusiasm and the excitement around the potential announcement of Shell's LNG facility going FID sometime this summer or in the fall has built up quite a bit. We share that enthusiasm that that facility will get going.

We think there's lots of support by the government out there as well as many of the local constituents. In addition to that, we think there's other West Coast LNG facilities that could be built in the U.S., which will all be very positive to the Montney, which is one of the lowest cost regions in North America. Today, even at gas prices at AECO, which are, I think, like $1.50, this region is extremely economic. We think that, in fact, the economics in the Montney could improve even more so because generally, the technological improvements that have come with Shell in Canada tend to be a couple of seasons behind. We think that there could be even greater productivity brought to that region that will reduce those costs. We think the outlook for gas production in that region is very robust.

There'll be lots of takeaway capacity from LNG. We're big bulls on the sector.

Dennis Coleman
Analyst, Bank of America Merrill Lynch

That's great. Very helpful. Last one from me, just going back to the third acquisition, the data centers. Can you talk about sort of growth profiles from here? You had a five-year target of growing the telecom data sector quite significantly relative to the rest of your portfolio. How should we think about the growth in the data centers here as part of that?

Sam Pollock
CEO, Brookfield Infrastructure Partners

Rob, as our guest speaker, would you like to speak to this or do you want me to answer it?

Roberto Marcogliese
Deputy CIO of Data Infrastructure, Brookfield Infrastructure Partners

Sure. Just want to make sure. Are you speaking specifically about the AT&T acquisition or the broader plan for the platform?

Dennis Coleman
Analyst, Bank of America Merrill Lynch

It's a little of both, Rob, please.

Roberto Marcogliese
Deputy CIO of Data Infrastructure, Brookfield Infrastructure Partners

I think starting with on the AT&T side, obviously the plan there is to grow this. That's kind of by putting in the new management team and a dedicated sales team that will focus on it. We think there's a number of key growth areas given where the portfolio is diversified across the U.S. I think generally speaking on the retail colocation side of the business, the growth over the next five, six years is supposed to be sort of in the kind of high single digits. That's, again, largely driven by two key factors, which is more companies looking to outsource and growing workloads. In terms of our strategy for the business, with this platform now, we think there's going to be lots of tuck-in opportunities. We're also, I would say, looking at the other segments as well.

We continue to look for power acquisitions, as well as looking to deploy more capital into the fiber to the home or sort of fiber business. Not sure exactly where that will lead to over the next five years, but there's lots of opportunities that we're looking at. There's a few opportunities that we're currently looking at right now, which hopefully, we'll be able to announce in the not too distant future.

Sam Pollock
CEO, Brookfield Infrastructure Partners

Great. Thanks, Rob.

Dennis Coleman
Analyst, Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Okay. That's it for me. Thank you.

Sam Pollock
CEO, Brookfield Infrastructure Partners

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Robert Catellier of CIBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Robert Catellier
Analyst, CIBC Capital Markets

Hey, thank you very much for that extensive review of the data center business. A similar question. Just when you're looking at the growth, what are the aspirational dollars there in terms of the amount of capital you can be deployed? Just trying to get a feel. It sounds like you're both organically growing and growing through capital, but just trying to get a feel to what those dollars might be on the capital deployment side.

Sam Pollock
CEO, Brookfield Infrastructure Partners

Well, maybe I'll tackle that. Again, I won't deal specifically with AT&T, but more just broadly on data infrastructure. Look, I think our goal would be in the next 12 months to invest probably $500 million from a BIP share perspective into data infrastructure. Probably over time, ramping up from there. I would say today, probably a higher percentage of our investments are going towards data infrastructure and energy in the next little while. That would be consistent with how our pipeline currently looks.

Robert Catellier
Analyst, CIBC Capital Markets

Okay, you gave the impact of the capital recycling drag from the Transelec sale, I think it was $31 million FFO per quarter. As you look to monetize another, I think you said $1 billion over the next 6 to 12 months, how should we look at the FFO drag from that?

Bahir Manios
CFO, Brookfield Infrastructure Partners

It's Bahir. The FFO yield that would be coming or the FFO that would be coming out of our results once those transactions hopefully get completed would also be in the mid to high single digits as well. These are mature businesses that command premium-type valuations.

Robert Catellier
Analyst, CIBC Capital Markets

Okay. My last question really has to do with the capital allocation strategy. You have increasingly invested in North America recently. With the OECD status in some Latin American countries, tightening interest rate differentials, which of those two is driving the capital allocation $? Is it just you're targeting data centers and energy infrastructure, or is it the fact that maybe Latin America's become more competitive as the economies improve and mature?

Sam Pollock
CEO, Brookfield Infrastructure Partners

Yeah. I'm not sure I would draw any conclusions necessarily from our recent activities about Latin America. I think we still see lots of interesting opportunities down there and hope to be able to announce other transactions in that region in the not-too-distant future. I think what you can draw is that we've recently been successful in identifying opportunities in North America that fit our wheelhouse. Businesses that we felt were suited to us, where we could drive additional value, and where we could be not only competitive but excited about the opportunities. I don't know if that's necessarily something that we'll replicate many times over the next 12 to 24 months. These were unique situations. Suffice it to say that we have investment teams across the world looking at opportunities, and we see interesting opportunities in all those markets.

Sometimes it just depends on specific circumstances why some proceed and others don't. As I mentioned in my remarks, we're somewhat agnostic around where we invest as long as we get the best risk-adjusted returns.

Robert Catellier
Analyst, CIBC Capital Markets

Okay. Just if I could have one more here. Just with the Enbridge Midstream acquisition, you referenced LNG, which can benefit the region. Just as you look out longer term, does the company have an appetite for making LNG investments? Obviously, the ones that are just going full FID and have a long construction cycle are different. In terms of a mature operating LNG plant, is that something that fits within the company's wheelhouse?

Sam Pollock
CEO, Brookfield Infrastructure Partners

It could. I think, again, it depends on the specific situation. If we can get the proper returns, we would definitely look at it.

Robert Catellier
Analyst, CIBC Capital Markets

Okay. Thanks very much, guys.

Sam Pollock
CEO, Brookfield Infrastructure Partners

Great. Thank you.

Operator

Your next question comes the line of Andrew Kuske of Credit Suisse. Your line is open.

Andrew Kuske
Analyst, Credit Suisse

Good morning. I think the question is probably for Sam, it's about the velocity of capital that flows through BIP. When you think about BIP One coming to maturity in a couple of years, probably raising capital for BIP Four maybe later this year, early next year, depending on deployment. How do you just think about the dollar value of capital opportunities and things you need to recycle flowing through BIP from a personnel standpoint and just managing all of that?

Sam Pollock
CEO, Brookfield Infrastructure Partners

Okay. Hi, Andrew. Just so I get the question correct, are you speaking more from a human resource perspective or a capital perspective?

Andrew Kuske
Analyst, Credit Suisse

Well, it's a little bit of both because obviously you've got a body count to deal with searching out opportunities and deploying the capital, but the dollar value that you're going to have to monetize or prospectively monetize and then also deploy is just growing in size and scope.

Sam Pollock
CEO, Brookfield Infrastructure Partners

Okay. Well, I'll do my best to answer it. I would say, I think I've mentioned this on past calls as well, that we are evolving to a state where the amount of realizations is gradually matching the amount of capital that we are deploying. In our early years of operation, the business was ramping up quite a bit and the investments were obviously in an early stage, we weren't realizing all that many. Today, as you pointed out, investments that we made from the Babcock transaction and early on in BIP One are becoming mature, we are looking to realize on those. We expect that that will be a significant component of our funding of future investments as we go forward. We can already, in our own minds, see which businesses we will likely bring to market over the next 2 to 3 years.

From that perspective, internally, we have good visibility on that capital recycling program. As it relates to personnel, we have matched the growth in the business with growth of people. Today, in the infrastructure group more broadly, we have over 200 people dedicated to the business in all the regions that we operate in. We feel that we're in a great position to not only find new investments, which I think we've demonstrated that, but also to manage the businesses, which is led by Ben Vaughan. Part of his team's mandate is also to realize on those investments when we determine it's time to sell. I would say from a HR perspective, we have probably one of the largest groups in infrastructure around the world, if not the largest. We feel like we can execute this plan quite well.

Andrew Kuske
Analyst, Credit Suisse

That's helpful. Then maybe just one minor extension. Does BIP get to the point within a specific asset class, really, in terms of size and maturity, that you contemplate effectively spinning out the underlying business and have it as a standalone entity?

Sam Pollock
CEO, Brookfield Infrastructure Partners

That's interesting. Yeah, we've had that debate over the years. I think that it's possible at some point we get to that stage. I think the things we'd have to consider is weighing the benefits of providing more of a pure play growth opportunity for investors against what we might lose on a cost of capital raising perspective. Today, BIP has a great credit rating that with the diversity we have in the cash flows, as that continues to grow, it's just helping our ratings and makes it very easy for us to raise capital. We might lose a little bit of that if we spun out a significant division. We have to weigh those factors. Today, we're not contemplating anything. You raise a good idea and something that the board always thinks about.

Andrew Kuske
Analyst, Credit Suisse

Okay. That's helpful. Thank you.

Operator

Your next question comes to the line of Robert Kwan of RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Robert Kwan
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Great. Morning. Just starting on data centers, in some ways maybe the answer's been out there, just in terms of where you're seeing the greatest opportunities. There was a lot of discussion on roll-ups. Is there a role for any larger acquisitions? Should we expect to see a material addition to your backlog profile for any greenfield or brownfield type expansion activity?

Sam Pollock
CEO, Brookfield Infrastructure Partners

Maybe I'll tackle that one, Rob. You jump in if I miss anything. On your last question, Robert, it's probably a little premature to talk about the implications on the backlog. I think we need to get in the business and even though we haven't closed on the transaction, the number of tuck-in opportunities that we have for the business is quite remarkable. That surely has surprised us, how quickly that they have come up. It's hard to say just how quickly or what the impact would be on the backlog. I think we'll add to this sector in relatively short order. I think you'll be surprised how we grow this business and in some meaningful transactions. Not all of them will necessarily be plugged into the AT&T platform. It's possible that we will have, in other regions, other types of businesses and possibly with partners.

I think we'll take a multifaceted approach in how we grow this business.

Robert Kwan
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Okay. Just as part of the explanation around the AT&T business, I can't remember the percentage, but it sounded like a large percentage of the customers own their own equipment, which reduces or eliminates your technology risk. As we think about kind of what you might want to do in this segment in the future, was that a key part of the attractiveness of the asset and something that you absolutely want to see going forward? Was it just something that was nice as part of the AT&T deal?

Roberto Marcogliese
Deputy CIO of Data Infrastructure, Brookfield Infrastructure Partners

Yeah, sure. I guess in the way we're looking at the space, there's obviously different opportunities and different strategies that we can employ. Some of the data centers may have more of a service feel or are managed hosting, in which case, oftentimes the data center owner will actually own the equipment. That's not a space that we're looking at right now. We're really focusing on effectively owning, what I'll call it, the building and the basic cooling systems and the HVAC, and really providing that space to customers who will then install their own servers and IT equipment. I think that sort of holds very true for both the retail colocation part of the business and for what we call the wholesaler, sort of the bigger hyperscale.

These individuals, these customers, are usually installing their own equipment, and there's very little, or there's some service element that retail colocation will provide, but the equipment is really owned by the end customer. I wouldn't say it's really unique of the AT&T. That is actually the model for retail colocation.

Robert Kwan
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Got it. Just keeping with data infrastructure, can you just provide an update on the outlook for acquisition potential on the tower side of things? There's been multiple things that you've been chasing that didn't come to fruition. Has that kind of gone to the back burner, or is it something that you're still actively pursuing?

Roberto Marcogliese
Deputy CIO of Data Infrastructure, Brookfield Infrastructure Partners

There's obviously been lots of transactions that have occurred in the European market. A number of which we have taken a look at, some of them obviously in our own backyard. In terms of the prospect going forward, it's definitely high on our list of acquisition targets. I would say right now probably the biggest opportunities for us are really on the fiber side of the business and on the data center side. Obviously, we like the fundamentals for the tower market and continue to look for those opportunities across the globe.

Robert Kwan
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Got it. If I can just finish with the Western Canadian midstream side. Sam, you talked about establishing your midstream business in Western Canada, when you think about growing that, again, where are you seeing the most likely investment opportunities going forward? Is it bolt-on acquisitions, or do you expect it's going to be more organic, greenfield, brownfield, i.e., backlog activities? Last, do you see the potential for larger transactions?

Sam Pollock
CEO, Brookfield Infrastructure Partners

We will consider all three of those things you mentioned. Initially, as we think about our business plan for the company, it's been mostly around the organic opportunities. We think that the two areas that Enbridge maybe has not been as focused as maybe we would be. One would be exploring some of the liquids opportunities around the assets. That's something that as we put in our new management team, we'll definitely focus on. We'll probably be maybe less stringent as Enbridge was as related to deploying capital into the region. Where they were probably more focused, they are a large interstate pipe company and used to dealing with long-term contracts on a take-or-pay basis. They're probably more fixated on those types of contractual relationship with customers.

We'll probably be prepared to take maybe some shorter-term, take-or-pay contracts and the sharing arrangements on some of the back-end production risk. We think that could drive lots of investment opportunities.

Robert Kwan
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Got it. Just, Sam, you talked about liquids opportunities. Is that more investment in the existing plants to improve the liquids yields, or are you looking at liquids egress options?

Sam Pollock
CEO, Brookfield Infrastructure Partners

Yeah. The latter, I think.

Robert Kwan
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Okay. That's great. Thank you very much.

Operator

Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of Frederic Bastien from Raymond James. Your line is open.

Frederic Bastien
Analyst, Raymond James

I was wondering if you could provide examples of certain levers you believe you could pull across the Brookfield platform to grow the Enercare business.

Sam Pollock
CEO, Brookfield Infrastructure Partners

Hi, Frederic. Yeah, I'd be happy to do that. I probably touched on it a little bit earlier on, but I'm happy to maybe restate them a little bit more clearly. We think that there's probably four businesses that we can tap into that can really help the business. Probably the largest one relates to the Vistra entity that we're involved with in the U.S. This is a large retail power business based in Texas. They have over three million residential commercial customers. Our HVAC business, I shouldn't say ours yet, it's not ours yet, but the Enercare HVAC business is based out of Texas as well.

One of the opportunities is to obviously tap into, to the extent possible, the customer base that this utility has and establishing some joint venture where we can share in the prospects of rolling out the Enercare-type business to this customer base. It's very under-penetrated today in the U.S., to the extent that we can accelerate that through that channel, that would be a huge home run. In addition to that, I mentioned there's a sub-metering business within Enercare, within our multi-family operations across North America, as well as our condominium services business. We should be able to access customers there and roll out the sub-metering services. Lastly, the Brookfield home building business is quite large across North America.

Accessing opportunities to provide water heaters and HVAC systems to that company to then adopt the residential customer, again, could be very additive to the business. That's something that today they are already a customer, but we don't have probably as much market share of the Brookfield business as we could have. In some respects, that's very similar to the district energy business where we were able to increase the market share that we had with Brookfield Properties on that business.

Frederic Bastien
Analyst, Raymond James

Okay, thanks.

Sam Pollock
CEO, Brookfield Infrastructure Partners

That would be it, Frederic.

Frederic Bastien
Analyst, Raymond James

Awesome. Thanks, Sam. That's super helpful. I have a last one here. You hinted at another $400 million of potential investments, for which you're in exclusive negotiations. Are you able to provide a bit more color on those? Wondering what sector these investments might be in.

Sam Pollock
CEO, Brookfield Infrastructure Partners

Sure. I think all I'd be comfortable to say at this stage is the opportunities are in the data infrastructure and energy sectors, and that we're hopeful that we'll have both transactions closed before the end of the month.

Frederic Bastien
Analyst, Raymond James

Okay.

Sam Pollock
CEO, Brookfield Infrastructure Partners

Not closed. Signed by the end of the month.

Frederic Bastien
Analyst, Raymond James

Okay, consistent with what you've been achieving recently. Thanks. Awesome.

Sam Pollock
CEO, Brookfield Infrastructure Partners

Great. Thank you very much.

Operator

Thank you very much, everyone. I'd like to turn the call back over to Sam Pollock for his closing remarks.

Sam Pollock
CEO, Brookfield Infrastructure Partners

Okay, well, thank you, operator. I'd like to thank everyone for joining the call this morning. I appreciate your patience. I know it was a longer call than usual. We're looking forward to updating you on our progress next quarter. For some of you, we hope to see you at our annual Investor Day in New York in September. On behalf of the management team, we hope you enjoy the rest of your summer. Thank you.

Operator

This concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect.