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Earnings Call: Q2 2020

Aug 5, 2020

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by, and welcome to the Brookfield Infrastructure Partners L.P. Second Quarter 2020 Results Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in listen-only mode. After the speaker presentation, there will be a question and answer session. To ask a question during the session, you will need to press star one on your telephone. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. If you require any further assistance, please press star zero. It is now my pleasure to introduce Managing Director Rene Lubianski.

Rene Lubianski
Managing Director, Brookfield Infrastructure Partners

Thank you, operator, good morning. Thank you all for joining us for Brookfield Infrastructure Partners' second quarter earnings conference call for 2020. On the call today is Bahir Manios, Chief Financial Officer, Sam Pollock, Chief Executive Officer, and Ben Vaughan, Chief Operating Officer. Following their remarks, we look forward to taking your questions and comments. At this time, I'd like to remind you that in responding to questions and in talking about our growth initiatives and our financial and operating performance, we may make forward-looking statements. These statements are subject to known and unknown risks, and future results may differ materially. For further information on known risk factors, I would encourage you to review our annual report on Form 20-F, which is available on our website. With that, I'll turn the call over to Bahir.

Bahir Manios
CFO, Brookfield Infrastructure Partners

Thank you, Rene, and good morning, everyone. I'm pleased to provide an update this morning on how our business performed this quarter. I'll start off by touching on a few macro-level points before going through a review of our financial and operating results for the period, which were on an overall basis better than expected, and then I'll conclude my remarks with an update on our balance sheet and liquidity position. Sam will then take over and go through our strategic initiatives and provide an outlook for the company going forward. The second quarter was obviously a very challenging period as the global economy experienced a sharp retraction due to the economic shutdowns imposed by governments. Over the past month or so, we've been very encouraged by the return of economic activity with the gradual reopening of economies.

While many industries have been hard hit, the infrastructure sector has demonstrated one of its most coveted characteristics, being its highly resilient cash flows. As we communicated previously, each of our businesses were deemed essential, and thus provided largely uninterrupted service throughout this challenging period. Our results for the quarter reflect certain timing impacts that are expected to be recovered over time. These include delays recognizing earnings associated with the build-out of a contracted backlog of projects in our U.K. Connections business and reduced traffic on our toll roads, for which we expect to be fully compensated on their force majeure provisions in our concession agreements. Across all our geographies where we have GDP-sensitive revenues, we have seen strong recoveries in volumes once restrictions were lifted.

While we are pleased with the faster than expected recovery of many economies around the world that we do business in, a number of our operations continue to operate at levels that are off pre-shutdown levels. This is due to certain safety protocols that continue to impact productivity at construction sites, in addition to commuter traffic levels that are still impacted by employees continuing to work from home. Therefore, while we may not see a full recovery until later in the year or early 2021, barring any further shutdowns, the impact on our results due to the economic slowdown in the next few quarters should be modest on an overall basis. In the second quarter, Brookfield Infrastructure generated funds from operations or FFO totaling $333 million, which was relatively consistent with the prior year.

Our assets performed well on a local currency basis, and only a very small portion of our overall revenue was affected by the global economic shutdown. On a per unit basis, our results were off by 5% compared to the prior year. Results for the quarter benefited from our asset rotation strategy. In the last 12 months, we've deployed $1.2 billion of capital at an average going in FFO yield of 12%. These new investments were primarily funded with proceeds from asset sales and refinancings that were done at a much lower cost of capital. Offsetting these positive impacts was the 27% depreciation of the Brazilian real, which reduced our FFO by $30 million. These positive factors were offset by lower market-sensitive revenues, which were concentrated in our transport segment because of temporary lockdown measures.

Overall, the impact of economic shutdown reduced our FFO by $27 million, with most of this, as I alluded to earlier, being timing related and therefore not expected to be a permanent loss. Our utility segment generated FFO of $130 million, compared to $143 million in the prior year. Results reflected a higher rate base due to inflation indexation and approximately $280 million of capital commissioned in the last 12 months. This segment also benefited from the contributions from our North American regulated gas transmission business acquired last October. These contributions were more than offset by a delay in the recognition of connections revenue at our U.K. regulated distribution business. The loss of earnings associated with the sale of an electricity distribution utility in Colombia, and the impact of the weaker Brazilian real. FFO for the quarter from our U.K. regulated distribution business was better than we expected.

Construction quickly rebounded in May and June as home builders reopened their sites, with connection activity averaging 65% of planned levels throughout June. While physical distancing protocols have limited our ability to add connections at full capacity, construction is now operating at approximately 85% of normal levels and continues to improve. The business also recently secured its two largest capital projects for the year, representing approximately 28,000 new connections across four of our utility offerings. These initiatives reflect the rebound in building activity and the positive sentiment we're seeing from home developers. Moreover, this business stands to benefit further given recently announced stimulus to boost national housing demand. From early July 2020 until March 2021, the government has removed stamp duty tax on the first GBP 500,000 of property values. Since these measures took effect, U.K. home sales are approximately 35% ahead of last year.

FFO from our transport segment was $108 million compared to $135 million in the prior year. Results reflected higher volumes across our Australian and Brazilian rail networks, as well as the contribution from our recently acquired North American rail operation. These positive factors were more than offset by the loss of earnings associated with the sale of a European port business and the partial sale of our interest in the Chilean toll road operation. Results were also affected by a weaker Brazilian real and lower volumes following government-enforced lockdowns, which together reduced our results by $29 million. Among these factors, first, foreign exchange accounted for $14 million of this decline, and second, $13 million related to lower volumes at our toll roads, for which we expect to be compensated, based on force majeure protections and ongoing dialogue our teams are having with local regulators.

Therefore, the true economic impact from the downturn is therefore limited to $2 million, or less than 1%, of BIP's total FFO, which is primarily in our port operations. Our energy segment generated FFO of $106 million compared to $96 million in the prior year. Performance was insulated from the current economic environment, as over 75% of our cash flows are underpinned by take-or-pay contracts with an average maturity of 11 years. Results benefited from higher transport volumes at our North American natural gas pipeline, over 55,000 new customers at our North American residential infrastructure business, and the contribution from the federally regulated portion of our Western Canadian midstream business that we acquired in December. These contributions were partially offset by the loss of income associated with the sale of our Australian district energy operation completed last November.

Despite volatility in the global energy markets, our Canadian natural gas midstream operations recorded results that were ahead of the prior year. This performance reflects the attractive contract profile with over 85% of our revenues earned under long-term take-or-pay arrangements with primarily investment-grade counterparties. Given the solid liquidity position of these counterparties, we do not foresee any significant concerns arising from a prolonged period of lower commodity prices. The Montney Basin has impressive long-term economics due to high liquid yields. Therefore, most producers have a long-term supply cost less than current commodity prices. Our North American residential energy infrastructure operation continues to operate with strong durability. Results reflect the fulfillment of good customer demand for cooling equipment and our U.S. sales to rental strategy that has gained substantial momentum, achieving record HVAC rental conversion rates of over 55%.

We're also making progress with our Canadian expansion outside of Ontario, having secured over 3,000 new long-term contracts in Western Canada during the quarter. Following the securitization financing at our Canadian rental business in 2019, we have been exploring ways to optimize our capital structure and efficiently fund our growth. In that regard, we're working on a securitization financing at our U.S. business, which we expect to have completed during the second half of the year. The stability of our North American district energy operation has been showcased in recent months. This business serves a highly diversified customer base across multiple geographies and industries and generates almost all its EBITDA from volume-agnostic capacity contracts. Throughout this period, we advanced several expansion projects and are seeing heightened interest from prospective customers looking to minimize the upfront capital spend associated with purchasing standalone heating and cooling equipment.

Construction remains on target for the eastward and westward expansions of our Toronto system, which have the potential to collectively increase our EBITDA by approximately $20 million when commissioned. FFO from our data infrastructure segment was $43 million, which was 43% higher than the prior year. Our French telecom business benefited from inflationary price increases and our build-to-suit program, which has added over 200 new sites. Results also reflected the contribution of earnings associated with the recently acquired data transmission and distribution operations in New Zealand and the U.K. Our South American data center business finalized an agreement to build two new hyperscale facilities in Mexico that will add 36 MW of storage capacity over the next few years. These facilities will require $330 million of capital and are anchored by long-term U.S. dollar-denominated take-or-pay contracts with a leading global technology company.

The initial phase is scheduled to come online in 2022 and is expected to contribute $50 million of EBITDA on a run-rate basis. Since investing in this business just over one year ago, we've added 24% of contracted capacity and secured expansions into both Chile and Mexico, expanding the company's existing footprint outside of Brazil. At our New Zealand data distribution business, we've made progress with the margin improvement program that was core to our investment thesis. At the time of acquisition, roughly one year ago, we identified a comprehensive multiyear cost-out initiative to drive EBITDA margin expansion from the low 20% range to the mid-30% range. Our team is focused on reducing expenses, rationalizing non-core product offerings, and improving utilization of our utility-like broadband and wired up services.

We expect these efforts, in combination with other activities underway, to result in annual FFO growth of approximately 10% over the next five years. Moving now on to our balance sheet. Our liquidity position is robust, with approximately $4.3 billion of total liquidity, including approximately $3.2 billion at the corporate level. The business is further supported by a healthy investment-grade balance sheet, and we have no material debt maturities for the next several years. During the quarter, Brookfield Infrastructure's credit rating was reaffirmed at BBB+ stable. We've completed over $2 billion of refinancing so far this year. Our ready access to low-cost debt capital is due to our conservative financing structures and many years of developing a track record as a high-quality borrower. We recently completed our first asset-level green bond issuance at the metered service operation of our North American residential energy infrastructure operation.

The 10-year issuance of CAD 150 million was priced at a coupon of approximately 3.8%. With that, thank you very much for your time this morning, and I'll turn the call over to Sam.

Sam Pollock
CEO, Brookfield Infrastructure Partners

Thank you, Bahir, and good morning, everyone. For my remarks today, I'll provide a brief update on some recent strategic initiatives, I'll follow that with a spotlight on our regulated terminal in Australia. I'll finish up the call by providing an outlook for the business. It is our belief that one of the biggest economic costs of the downturn will be that many industrial companies and all governments will be significantly more indebted. Once the immediate measures to stabilize economies and businesses have been implemented, governments and businesses alike will need to evaluate alternatives to source capital to repay excessively high debt levels. We've spoken in the past about the secular trend of governments seeking investment from private sector to acquire and build out infrastructure. With inflated deficits, along with the desire to stimulate economic activity, we expect the impetus for this to become even more pronounced.

In addition, many corporations will be susceptible to tighter credit markets and they'll need to reduce debt levels through asset sales. Suffice it to say, this is an attractive environment for Brookfield Infrastructure to source investment opportunities for the foreseeable future. At the moment, the vast majority of our global investment teams have returned to the office, which has reinvigorated our deal activity and outreach activities. We are currently focused on executing several medium-sized tuck-in acquisitions for various businesses in our energy, transportation, and data operations. As a result of the potential synergies, we believe that these acquisitions should be highly accretive if closed. We are evaluating numerous new investment opportunities in all our regions. During the quarter, we made progress on various strategic initiatives. First, the sale of our North American electricity transmission operation closed in July.

This resulted in $60 million of proceeds to BIP and an IRR of approximately 21%. We are advancing two other asset sale processes that will generate over $700 million of additional liquidity. We believe that essential and de-risked infrastructure businesses that performed uninterrupted throughout this recent period will attract strong interest at premium prices. The closing of our large-scale acquisition of 130,000 telecom towers in India from Reliance Jio is expected shortly. We have received positive feedback recently from Indian regulators that the remaining approvals are on track. Since we signed the deal with Reliance Jio, they have raised approximately $20 billion of equity capital from technology companies and other private equity investors, which has further solidified the credit quality of this anchor tenant. BIP will invest approximately $500 million of equity in the business.

During the broad market sell-off in March, we acquired stakes in several high-quality infrastructure companies at attractive entry points. The ensuing rebound allowed us to monetize some of these positions and realize profits in a short period of time. We have fully executed a number of these investments, realizing total profits of approximately $40 million, with BIP's share being approximately $25 million. We continue to accumulate positions, however, in a handful of companies that we hope will lead to broader strategic initiatives in time. Dislocations in North American energy markets may provide unique opportunity to invest at value. Our focus is on the highly contracted businesses with solid counterparties, limited exposure to volume pricing risk, and long-life critical infrastructure that complements our existing operations. We believe several of these types of opportunities exist to implement, both in the public and private markets.

Lastly, we are very pleased with the market's response thus far to Brookfield Infrastructure Corporation, or what we often refer to as BIPC. Not only has there been significant demand for these shares, but BIPC was also recently added to the Russell 2000 U.S. Index. We intend to support the growth of BIPC's public float to improve the company's trade and liquidity, and recently completed our first initiative in this regard in coordination with Brookfield Asset Management, who agreed to sell a portion of its holdings in BIPC. This successful secondary offering in Canada increased the public float of BIPC by approximately 15%. Shifting gears, I'd like to spend a few minutes discussing the topic of resiliency. We often characterize BIP as an investment for all seasons, highlighting the recession-resistant characteristics of our business.

Our cash flow profile is stable and predictable, which is a function of the regulated contracted nature of our assets. A great example of this resilience through market cycles is our regulated terminal in Australia. As background, the terminal serves as a critical link in the global steel supply chain for one of the highest quality and lowest cost basins in the world, the Pilbara Basin. This fully regulated terminal operates under an established regime and has been a steady contributor within our utility segment for some time. This business has several key characteristics that we look for in infrastructure assets. First, it's a strategically important asset that is an essential link to global export markets and supported by a high-quality and long-life resource.

Second, it has an established regulatory framework, which provides a utility-like risk profile and stable and predictable cash flows with a full pass-through of operating and maintenance costs. That is very unique. Every dollar we've invested has been added to the rate base upon which we earn a regulated return. Third, it has no volume or commodity exposure, as revenues are earned under long-term take-or-pay arrangements. Fourth, it has robust downside protection with a mechanism for socializing costs amongst counterparties in the event of a default and no force majeure provision in customer contracts. Lastly, it has a very creditworthy counterparty profile, which is comprised of some of the largest mining companies in the world. For these reasons, the economic slowdown had virtually no impact on the operational financial performance on the business.

Similarly, in the past, we've had experiences, and we've reported many times on these calls about extreme weather events where the business has continued to receive full revenue payments despite the terminal being unable to operate for periods of time. To better understand the strength of the business, we can look at our annual EBITDA and FFO since 2017, which was the first full year since the last regulatory reset. The numbers demonstrate that in the years between regulatory resets, the annual variability in both EBITDA and FFO is virtually nil. Quarterly variability is also very limited, as the business has no seasonality associated with its cash flows. We acquired the regulated terminal at an attractive entry price in 2009 as part of the multifaceted recapitalization of Babcock & Brown. Over the 10 years of ownership, we've created value in a number of ways.

We've executed several capital projects to increase the regulated asset base. We've enhanced operating efficiency by improving working capital measures. We've reduced the cost of capital through opportunistic financing initiatives. That has resulted to date in returns for us of close to four times our invested capital. Now let's look ahead. Our outlook for the balance of the year is more optimistic than when we last reported back in May. While we remain cautious with respect to potential setbacks in the global recovery, we are encouraged by the pace of reopening and the strong performance of our businesses. Results for our assets that have volume exposure have been, for the most part, quicker to rebound than what we initially anticipated.

As many of our businesses, results are ahead of plan for the year as communities emerge out of lockdown and economic activity ramps up. While our payout ratio in the first half of 2020 is higher than our target range, we believe it will normalize as economic conditions improve and once the Indian telecom tower transaction closes. We expect this acquisition to be accretive to our overall cash flows. In the second half of 2020, we will focus on execution of our capital recycling initiatives. We are confident that the merits of investing in mature, de-risked, cash flow producing infrastructure assets will be more appealing to prospective buyers than ever, particularly with the expectation for low interest rates for the foreseeable future.

Our investment teams are pursuing a number of large and strategic investment opportunities, as well as follow-on acquisitions. An ongoing area of focus for us is on data infrastructure.

We believe the sector offers significant opportunities given the large-scale investments required to replace the aging copper infrastructure with fiber and upgrade wireless networks to the new 5G standards. With increasing demands placed on their capital, telecom operators are looking for funding partners to reduce the strain on their balance sheets and deliver the next-generation networks required to support an increasingly interconnected society. We remain patient in this regard, but we believe we have laid a substantial amount of groundwork and will aim to advance these opportunities in the coming months. Our liquidity position, combined with access to several sources of capital, will allow us to move quickly when a catalyst for such transactions emerges. This concludes our remarks for today's call. I'll now pass it back to the operator to open the line for questions.

Operator

Thank you. As a reminder, ladies and gentlemen, to ask a question, you will need to press star one on your telephone. To withdraw your question, press the pound key. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. Your first question comes from the line of Cherilyn Radbourne with TD Securities.

Cherilyn Radbourne
Analyst, TD Securities

Thanks very much, good morning. With regard to the need for industrial businesses and governments to reduce heavy debt loads by monetizing infrastructure, over what time period do you think those opportunities may unfold? With respect to governments in particular, do you think that activity will extend to regions where historically there's been some resistance to private ownership of infrastructure?

Sam Pollock
CEO, Brookfield Infrastructure Partners

Hi, Cherilyn, and good morning. I'll tackle that one. I guess the first part of your question was just how quickly will we see it unfold. I guess my view there is that's probably dependent on how long the stimulus will stay outstanding. I think if the central banks continue to, and governments themselves fiscally saturate the market with liquidity, the debt markets will remain open, and people will probably take advantage of debt for a period of time longer. We do know that there will be a limit to that, and my expectation is that we will first see corporations look to recapitalize their businesses as they'll be fearful of holding too much debt for too long. I think I'd be speculating on a specific timetable, but I think in 2021, we will see many opportunities arise from corporates.

With governments, you touched on in your second part of your question, the willingness to do that. I think going into next year, there will be a realization amongst governments that they will have to either increase taxes substantially or take other measures to raise revenues in order to fund these deficits. I think that will start the conversation around selling some infrastructure and/or utilizing new structures, maybe they haven't been devised yet, to bring in institutional capital into investing in parts of the economy. I think this will evolve. Nothing ever happens quickly with governments. The magnitude of the deficits and the debt is just so dramatic that our view on this subject is stronger than ever.

Cherilyn Radbourne
Analyst, TD Securities

Okay. That's great color. Second question is quicker. Here, I was just hoping you could give us a bit of an update on how volumes are trending on your transport assets to date in Q3.

Bahir Manios
CFO, Brookfield Infrastructure Partners

Sure thing. Good morning, Cherilyn. Thanks for the question. We are, as we've telegraphed in the letter, revising our outlook for the balance of Q3 and for the balance of the year just in response to the quick reopening of the various economies around the world. You noted transport in particular. Our rail segment, that's trending positively. The second quarter was relatively strong compared to what we initially forecasted coming into the quarter, and I would expect Q3 and onwards to be also modestly positive from here.

If you look at our toll road business, we had forecasted for volumes to be down about 40% coming into the quarter. Results came in about 20% better than that, where things are at today is, we think our toll road volumes in the second half of the year will be about 10% off call it normalized levels. Also a bit of an improvement over Q2 levels. Then on the ports as well. Coming into the quarter, we thought those would be about 10%-15% off. They landed about 5% off and we would expect that trend to be also positively positive in the second half of the year.

Cherilyn Radbourne
Analyst, TD Securities

Great. That's all for me. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Robert Kwan with RBC Capital Markets.

Robert Kwan
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Great. Good morning. If I can just dig into your comments on U.S. midstream. One of the things you mentioned was looking for assets that complement your existing assets. I'm just wondering if you can just elaborate on that, whether you're focused on an extension of your existing asset base, an expansion pretty much on top of what you've got, or vertical integration.

Sam Pollock
CEO, Brookfield Infrastructure Partners

Hi, Robert. I think we're always looking for opportunities to expand our existing networks. We've reported on many expansions of the NGPL pipeline. I think what we're referring to in our comments there was the fact that our focus today is primarily in the natural gas sector in the U.S., and so midstream assets within for that commodity and assets that have a very attractive contracted profile. As you know what has served us really well during this period of time is the fact that virtually all our midstream assets are highly contracted and as a result, they've performed spectacularly during this downturn. We haven't been impacted by reduced drilling like a lot of other midstream operators have been. It's really those types of attributes that we're looking for and that sector that we're focused on.

Robert Kwan
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Got it. Just by citing the U.S. specifically, is it really just kind of a read through here that you're less enthused with Canadian midstream? Can you just talk about some of the factors as to why U.S. versus just say, North America and kind of lumping Canada in the mix?

Sam Pollock
CEO, Brookfield Infrastructure Partners

Yeah. Again, I wouldn't read too much into that. I think the fact of the matter is the opportunity set in the U.S. is just much larger. We just tend to see more opportunities there. As everyone is familiar with, we have a large operation in B.C. as well. We monitor opportunities that arise in Canada as well. If the right one surfaced, we would definitely consider it. The amount of opportunities here in Canada are much smaller and lower scale than what we see in the U.S.

Robert Kwan
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Got it. I'll just finish the question on asset recycling. You highlighted the robust market that you're seeing. Has anything changed versus the pre-COVID-19 kind of thoughts you had with respect to the asset types or the amount of potential sales? Maybe with that you profiled DBCT and is that an asset that you'd now like to own longer term or could that be in the mix coming back to the asset monetization processes?

Sam Pollock
CEO, Brookfield Infrastructure Partners

I think there's two elements to your question. I think the first thing is just on assets that are attractive to the market. I think today, assets that have proven themselves to be resilient during market downturns are more in favor than ever. Those highest quality utility like businesses are the most sought after, and particularly in this low interest rate environment. Maybe with a growth outlook that looks a little diminished for the near term. Those type of businesses clearly are the ones that we think will attract the highest valuations. DBCT definitely would tick all those boxes. As it relates to how we would choose between which ones we might sell and which ones we might hold on to, I think our view has always been-

We bring to market those assets that we believe we have de-risked and execute our business plan, and those that we think we can achieve an attractive price and then reinvest those proceeds at higher returns. DBCT is a great asset. We would love to hold it forever, but also, if we got the right price, we would consider it for sale as well. I think we think about that. We look at all our assets in that manner. Nothing is sacred.

Robert Kwan
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Okay. That's great. Thank you very much.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Rupert Merer with National Bank.

Rupert Merer
Analyst, National Bank

Hi, good morning, everyone. On capital recycling, you've mentioned the target of $700 million of liquidity from two asset sales. On the investment side, you've talked about a fair amount of activity, looking at some tuck-ins. Are you able to quantify a target for the investment run rate over the next year or the coming quarters?

Sam Pollock
CEO, Brookfield Infrastructure Partners

Hi, Rupert. The investment run rate often is dependent on market conditions. Let me start off with that caveat. If there's great opportunities, then we will invest heavily, and we will find the capital either through asset sales or raise new capital. If the returns aren't there, then we'll be patient. I would say, on average, we're typically looking to invest approximately $1 billion a year of new investments. These days, we will source the vast majority of that through recycling the capital. The $700 million, plus or minus, it could be a bit more we get from the assets. I'd say for the most part, we see those amounts being roughly the same.

Rupert Merer
Analyst, National Bank

For today, you have more than $4 billion in liquidity, I believe, and you're not looking to invest at a rate much faster than what you can generate from capital recycling. How much liquidity are you comfortable holding? When you look at that $4 billion number, do you see that as nice to have in case a very large opportunity comes up, or is there a minimum level that you'd like to hold?

Sam Pollock
CEO, Brookfield Infrastructure Partners

It will typically fluctuate, but I would say it's very common for us to have company-wide liquidity of ±$3 billion. Corporate liquidity usually in the $1 billion-$2 billion range. That's typically what we operate in, and we try to manage within those levels.

Rupert Merer
Analyst, National Bank

Great. Secondly, looking over the U.K., we have Ofgem proposing lower ROEs for regulated utilities. Can you walk us through the regulatory process over there and what an impact ROE cuts could have on your operations?

Ben Vaughan
COO, Brookfield Infrastructure Partners

Rupert, it's Ben Vaughan here. All those, I guess the new WACC that are coming out for the companies in the U.K. were all factored into our business plans. As those new numbers play through the revenue streams that we earn through our business in the U.K., they really have no meaningful impact. At this point, they've been factored into our plans, and we've been obviously monitoring it closely. It's all fallen in line with what we foresaw. We don't expect any real impact from it going forward.

Rupert Merer
Analyst, National Bank

All right, great. I'll leave it there. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Frederic Bastien with Raymond James.

Frederic Bastien
Analyst, Raymond James

Good morning. Guys, you mentioned activating two new indoor wireless systems in buildings across the U.K. and then exploring the potential to export the model to other Brookfield markets. I found that quite interesting. I was wondering if you could provide a bit more color.

Ben Vaughan
COO, Brookfield Infrastructure Partners

Yeah, absolutely. Frederic, once again, it's Ben talking here. I guess there's two things that we sort of see as trends. One is just the continued evolution of 5G, and the need for increased density in wireless and communication networks. I guess the second trend that we've seen is owners of commercial real estate very much understand the value of having high-quality reception in their buildings. As somebody who's very familiar with the real estate business, we want to work with owners of large real estate portfolios to find opportunities to build out those networks for them. We've started this business in the U.K., and the next market that we are going to target is in North America. Leveraging Brookfield's overall knowledge in real estate, we hope we can build an interesting business in this space.

Those are the two key trends that are driving the thinking behind.

Frederic Bastien
Analyst, Raymond James

Okay, that's helpful. Thanks. Just building on the data, there was an article published yesterday suggesting you may be looking at a bid for the fiber unit of a Brazilian telecom company. Are you able to comment on that?

Sam Pollock
CEO, Brookfield Infrastructure Partners

Hi, Fred. Sam. We don't typically comment on transactions, so I'd rather not.

Frederic Bastien
Analyst, Raymond James

Okay. Thought I'd try. Lastly, for me, unless I missed it, there was no mention of your container business in your prepared remarks and whether it performed in line with expectations. That was maybe a concern heading into the quarter. How did that business actually perform?

Bahir Manios
CFO, Brookfield Infrastructure Partners

Morning, Frederic. It's Bahir. Maybe I'll take that one. Maybe there wasn't much of a spotlight. It is a much smaller business on a relative basis. We would have thought that would, I think I mentioned earlier, 10%-15% off from a volume basis, and we actually came in much better than that, and the outlook for the balance of the year is positive. We're quite pleased with how that business has performed just in light of everything that went on.

Frederic Bastien
Analyst, Raymond James

Okay. Thanks for that. I'll turn it over.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Robert Catellier with CIBC.

Robert Catellier
Analyst, CIBC

Yeah, good morning. Just a couple of follow-ups here. You talked about the impact of liquidity in the market might, in the short term, reduce government's desire to sell assets, but eventually it'll get around to it. I'm curious about whether you're seeing any impact of this high level of liquidity on competitive behavior. Are you seeing any irrational competitive behavior in bidding for assets?

Sam Pollock
CEO, Brookfield Infrastructure Partners

Hi, Robert. It's Sam. Maybe I'll take this one. Look, there has been and has always been competitive market. We sometimes witness transactions at prices that don't always make sense to us. Different people have different strategies and return thresholds. I wouldn't say, though, that we're seeing any change in buyer behavior of any sorts. While I think we can always point to certain transactions that might feel out of ordinary, we can do that at all points in the cycle and have over the last five years. I think the short answer to your question is no, behavior hasn't changed dramatically. I'd say the bid today is as solid as it was pre-COVID. That's what gives us the confidence to come back out into the market with some high-quality assets with confidence that we'll get good prices.

Robert Catellier
Analyst, CIBC

Okay. That makes sense. Could you provide a little bit more color on the securitization opportunity in the U.S.? Obviously, that was a success in the Canadian business. How far along is the process? It took a while to get it done in Canada, but is the market more developed in the U.S.? Ultimately, how much capital do you think you can pull out of that business?

Bahir Manios
CFO, Brookfield Infrastructure Partners

Hey, Robert. It's Bahir. I'll take that one. It's fairly progressed. We've been working on it for about six to nine months. The hope would be that it won't take as long as the Canadian one took. It is still a newer asset class in the U.S. The whole rental strategy of these HVAC units is not something that's typically seen today in the U.S., and hence it's a newer strategy that we're bringing to market. That being said, there are a lot of comparable examples out there that we're hopeful that the rating agencies will draw on. I believe, and I would expect that this should close in the second half of the year. As to quantum, I'm not ready to give a number out there on the call today. It is a smaller business compared to the Canadian one. It's less established.

We're in ramp-up mode in the U.S. This program will get much larger just given the success we've had even thus far executing on our rental strategy there. Maybe I'll leave it there.

Robert Catellier
Analyst, CIBC

Okay. Thanks for that. Just my last question here. This is obviously a little bit early, but they're still in the midst of a recovery, but you've commented on where the payout ratio is relative to your normal levels being influenced, obviously, by the COVID downturn and expected to improve with the closing of Jio. I guess, I'm wondering what you think you need to see between now and the end of the year to maintain your dividend growth strategy.

Sam Pollock
CEO, Brookfield Infrastructure Partners

Hi, Robert. I'll tackle that one. I'll start by saying that we haven't had those conversations with the board yet, and that typically will happen after business planning season and see how the end of the year turns out. The way the process works is, we set the dividend base off the long-term run rate for the business. We look through generally short-term iterations because we run the business for the long term. At this stage, the revenue and cash flow-generating ability of the businesses has not been impacted by COVID, and we would not expect it to be longer term. That will all be taken into account when we come to the business planning season. I think the last consideration obviously will be taking into account the various businesses we've bought and sold during that period of time.

We'll have some businesses that will no longer be in our generating cash flow and other ones that we will have recently bought that will be. All that will be taken into account. It's a bit premature. I can't give you any sense of what that outlook will look like. With the main point being that we take a long-term perspective to it, and our view today is that COVID has not impacted the long-term cash flow-generating ability of the business.

Robert Catellier
Analyst, CIBC

Okay. Thanks for that color. I realize it's a little early. That was a good color in light of the context. Thank you.

Sam Pollock
CEO, Brookfield Infrastructure Partners

Yeah.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Asit Sen with Bank of America.

Asit Sen
Analyst, Bank of America

Thanks. Good morning. On the Indian telecom deal, the slight delay, is it COVID related or is it normal course of doing business? Jio was successful in raising significant capital recently. How do you see the potential of investing more in Indian telecom? Broader context, if the reshoring trend away from China takes hold, how do you see the data infrastructure trend in that market?

Sam Pollock
CEO, Brookfield Infrastructure Partners

Asit, maybe I'll start with that, and maybe, Ben, if you would like to jump in. Let me deal with your questions on the Reliance portfolio first. We do view extremely positively the fact that Reliance Jio raised $20 billion from private equity and technology companies. We think it's a tremendous validation of the business plan they have for the company, and it provides them tremendous amounts of capital to grow the operations of not only the telecom but the e-commerce side of the business. Yeah, we do think that the potential for them to grow a business. They have visions of becoming both an Amazon-type business as well as a social media-type business.

I think the scale of that market has huge potential, and that, given the lack of landlines in the country, means that the wireless infrastructure will have to be used extensively, and having ownership of those towers means we think there'll have to be even further investment in that infrastructure, which positions us really well. Suffice it to say, yes, we think it's great. I think your other question in that regard was just the delays. I think it's a mix of a number of factors. Obviously, COVID impacted all regulatory approvals around the world. Things were not as efficient. The Indian market can sometimes be less efficient from a regulatory perspective than others. That's a factor. It's a number of factors, but as I mentioned in our remarks, we've had very positive feedback from the regulators, so we think it is all on track.

Sorry, your third question was regarding China?

Asit Sen
Analyst, Bank of America

Yeah. If there is a reshoring trend that takes place away from China, and this is very early days, how does Indian market in telecom data look in that environment for you guys investing more?

Sam Pollock
CEO, Brookfield Infrastructure Partners

To be honest, I don't know if I have a view yet. I'll have to think about that. I don't know, Ben, if you have a comment on that?

Ben Vaughan
COO, Brookfield Infrastructure Partners

I guess my only thought, I hadn't thought this through either what the China impact could be, but just the opportunity in India alone, given the scale of the country, the population base, the colocation, the fact that many of these networks haven't even leveraged colocation yet. I just think, at this point in my mind would be a bigger driver of growth than a reshoring of industry, but it would only add to the positive momentum. At this point, the opportunity is pretty significant just in and of itself in the current environment.

Asit Sen
Analyst, Bank of America

Great. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Rob Hope with Scotiabank.

Rob Hope
Analyst, Scotiabank

Morning, everyone. Just two follow-ups. First off, when you're talking about your M&A pipeline and corporations looking to move down debt levels, with the liquidity we're seeing in the market, have boards been receptive so far, or could this be more of a 2021 conversation?

Sam Pollock
CEO, Brookfield Infrastructure Partners

I think the conversations will build as the year goes on. I think the reception at every company is dependent on their own particular situation. We tend to focus our current ideas on things that we think are actionable in the near term, and so trying to pick those boards and management teams where their needs are immediate. As we mentioned earlier in the call, some companies have managed to kick the can down the road a bit with being able to tap the debt markets. Ultimately, they'll need to recapitalize and do that either by raising equity or by selling assets. We think these discussions will continue to take place over the next 6- 18 months. I think we're going to be extremely busy, and we're going to see lots of great opportunities.

Rob Hope
Analyst, Scotiabank

All right. Thanks for that. Then a follow-up, in terms of your public securities portfolio, looks like you're still making some investments there, but you have realized some profit there. Can you maybe add some color on kind of the size of your holdings currently and which sectors look most attractive to you?

Sam Pollock
CEO, Brookfield Infrastructure Partners

Yeah. I can deal with the first part. Very simply, we have about $1 billion of cash and financial assets on our balance sheet, and we've earmarked just over $500 million of that for the Jio transaction. The balance represents a mixture of equity investments and tool holds, as well as some bond financial asset-type investments, debt investments. We have still quite a sizable exposure. Look, our focus has been on probably those sectors that were most impacted by COVID, where we saw significant deterioration in share prices. I'll leave it at that.

Rob Hope
Analyst, Scotiabank

All right. Thank you.

Sam Pollock
CEO, Brookfield Infrastructure Partners

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Andrew Kuske with Credit Suisse.

Andrew Kuske
Analyst, Credit Suisse

Thanks. Good morning. Since inception, you've had an emphasis on inflation-protected cash flows, whether it's by way of contract or a regulatory construct. Maybe just in light of the economic environment we're in, are you having any positive or negative impacts from deflationary pressures, really on a near-term basis? When you think longer term, does it really set you up for better than the inflation expectations you've had historically?

Sam Pollock
CEO, Brookfield Infrastructure Partners

Hi, Andrew. On your first part of your question, fortunately, there have been, I think, over the years, the odd weird situation where we have a deflationary impact on one of our inflation-linked assets, but it's extremely rare, and I can't think of anything at the moment where we're having negative tariff increases. Nothing has popped up in that regard. It's something we do watch carefully. It's kind of like the same example would be with negative interest rates, always making sure that we don't have a situation where our swaps are mismatched with any types of debt securities. There's no issues today.

I think on how we're set up for the future, I think your question was to tell me if I've got the gist of this right, but you're suggesting that by having the inflation-linked cash flows to the extent that these monetary policies lead to higher inflation in the future, we should be well-positioned to capture that? If that's the gist of your question, then I think it's a real possibility that we see inflation down the road, and I do think we will benefit from that substantially. I think we benefit two ways. One is to the extent that there's high inflation, our inflation and cash flows or tariffs will rise substantially.

We do have the GDP exposure, which today has hurt us in some spots, but when the economy recovers, that does allow us the opportunity to pass along real rate increases in some of our tariffs and tolls. Hopefully we can have higher growth in the future.

Andrew Kuske
Analyst, Credit Suisse

Okay, that's great. With that potential benefit that comes in the future of a greater inflation environment, does that cause you to really revisit your capital structure at this moment in time with the debt in your capital structure of maybe being opportunistic in the current rate environment and the spreads that we see in locking in debt that further enhances that profitability in the future with rising inflation?

Sam Pollock
CEO, Brookfield Infrastructure Partners

Yeah. Look, I think our financial strategy or treasury policy has always been to lock away rates and make sure they're fixed and also increase our tenors as much as possible. That has hurt us at times, as rates have come down. By locking in longer-term rates, we've probably penalized ourselves to a certain extent, but we've done it as a risk management policy. I think if we continue it, then to the extent that rates move the other way, which would seemingly be the obvious direction given where rates are today, that should protect us if rates move up. I think we'll continue with the policy. We'll continue to push out. We have recently issued perpetual debt, [some first subs]. We'll continue to look to push out that tenor.

Andrew Kuske
Analyst, Credit Suisse

Okay. That's great. Thank you.

Sam Pollock
CEO, Brookfield Infrastructure Partners

Okay , thank you very much.

Operator

Thank you. I will now turn the call back over to CEO, Sam Pollock, for closing remarks.

Sam Pollock
CEO, Brookfield Infrastructure Partners

Okay. Thank you, operator. Look, we appreciate everyone's time today, and thank you for joining this call. We hope you enjoy the rest of the summer. Take care.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.