Broadwind, Inc. (BWEN)
NASDAQ: BWEN · Real-Time Price · USD
2.610
-0.050 (-1.88%)
Apr 24, 2026, 2:52 PM EDT - Market open
← View all transcripts

Earnings Call: Q3 2022

Nov 8, 2022

Speaker 1

Greetings and welcome to the Broadwind Third Quarter 2022 Results Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. A brief question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. And as a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce Tom Ciccone, CFO.

Thank you, sir. You may begin. Good morning and welcome to the Broadwind Third Quarter 2022 Results Conference Call. Will be answered. Leading the call today is our CEO, Eric Blatchford and I'm Tom Stroney, the company's Vice President and Chief Financial Officer.

We issued a press release before market opened today detailing our Q3 results. I would like to remind you that management's commentary and responses to questions on today's conference call may include forward looking statements, which by their nature are uncertain and outside of the company's control. Although these forward looking statements are based on management's current expectations and beliefs, actual results may differ materially. Comes from the line of David. For a discussion of some

Speaker 2

of the

Speaker 1

factors that could cause actual results to differ, please refer to the Risk Factors section of our latest annual and quarterly filings with the SEC. Additionally, please note that you can find reconciliations of the historical will be from non GAAP financial measures discussed during our call and the press release issued today. At the conclusion of our prepared remarks, we will open the line for questions. With that, I'll turn the call over to Eric. Thanks, Tom, and welcome to those joining us today.

I'm pleased to report that demand conditions improved materially during the Q3 As both orders and backlog increase to multi quarter highs, we booked $85,000,000 of new orders in the 3rd quarter, more than double the prior year period, comes from

Speaker 2

the line of John with all segments posting significant increases.

Speaker 1

Most notably, our wind orders more than doubled from last year. Is, as the recent passage of the Inflation Reduction Act or IRA together with a decline in select raw material prices from recent elevated levels has led to early indications of recovery within the sector. Our Gearing and Industrial Solutions businesses continued to show strength in orders during the quarter with both segments posting 34% increases versus last year. While operationally, labor remains a challenge, we've taken steps to improve our recruiting and retention efforts, while continuing to offer a competitive benefits We are managing the impact of cost inflation and are collaborating with our customers to share these higher costs, while introducing strategic pricing actions as we ensure stable margin capture. We are effectively managing our cash and expect to have liquidity remain near current levels by the end of this year.

We generated revenue of $45,000,000 in the 3rd quarter, a year over year increase of 11%, comes from the line of John Franzrebrenco, led by growth in our Gearing segment and Industrial Fabrication product line, posting gains of 35% 95% respectively. We generated $1,900,000 of EBITDA in the quarter, a year over year increase of $1,500,000 We are encouraged by the passage of the IRA and its significant support for renewables, which we see as a major catalyst for our wind business for years to come. We are currently seeing increased quoting activity with our wind Customers expressing interest in tower capacity into 2024 and have now secured orders for tower production into mid-twenty 23. Our Heavy Fabrication segment saw orders of $63,000,000 up more than 137% year over year, led by wind tunnel orders. Our Deering and Industrial Solutions orders of $15,500,000 $6,100,000 Respectively, were each up 34% year over year.

Our total backlog at the end of Q3 was $132,000,000 An increase of 73% versus the prior year period. Quoting activity in our non wind markets remains is strong and we expect the good order flow to continue through the balance of this year. Within our Heavy Fabrication segment, revenue grew 7% to $31,000,000 as non wind demand offset a reduction in tower sections is sold. Aside from our core tower business, we continue to allocate spare tower production capacity toward other projects comes from the line of John Deerend.

Speaker 2

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of John Deerend. Thank you. Thank you.

Our next question comes from the line of John Deerend. Thank you. Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of John Deerend. Thank you.

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of John Deerend. Thank you.

Speaker 1

Is from a 35% increase year over year as customer activity continues to be strong within the energy and industrial sectors. We are seeing the positive impact of our upgraded sales team and revised commercial strategy in the form of new customers and increases in our profitable gearbox repair and upgrade service offering. In summary, I'm pleased with the substantial increase in order activity we experienced in Q3 as we build a strong backlog going into 2023. Our team continues to work with our sourcing partners to address We expect wind development activity to ramp up gradually over the medium term as the market favorably responds comes from the line of John Franzrebrenco. With that, I'll turn the call back over to Tom for a discussion of our Q3 financial performance.

Thank you, Eric. Turning to slide 6 for an overview of our Q3 performance. 3rd quarter consolidated sales were $44,800,000 compared to $40,400,000 in the prior year quarter. Versus the prior year, Q3 sales increased within our Gearing and Heavy Fabrication segments, but decreased within Industrial Solutions. The 11% increase in consolidated sales was primarily driven by increased gearing demand within its energy and industrial end markets.

Within the Heavy Fabrication segment, we experienced a nearly 100% increase in Industrial Fabrication revenue, is a result of strong recent order intake, but was offset by a 26% decrease in tower sections sold. Industrial Solutions sales were also down marginally. In Q3, we recognized $1,900,000 of EBITDA is compared to $400,000 in the prior year Q3. The improvement in EBITDA is reflective of the higher overall volume level and the corresponding increase in plant utilization, which contributed to improved operating leverage in the period. Turning to slide 7 for a discussion of our Heavy Fabrication segment.

3rd quarter orders were $62,900,000 is a 137% increase from the prior year period. The increase is attributable to a $4,000,000 increase in tower orders as demand remains elevated for our Abilene production capacity due to ongoing or planned projects in that region. 3rd quarter sales were $30,600,000 up from $28,700,000 in the prior year quarter. Weakness in Q3 tower sales was largely offset by nearly 100% increase in industrial fabrication revenue, comes from the line of David. Which benefited from strong demand from industrial customers as well as for our natural gas pressure reducing systems or PRS units.

During the Q3, we sold 145 tower sections, down from 197 sold in the prior year period and reflective of the continued weakness in tower demand out of Manitowoc when compared to the Abilene facility. We expect Abilene to continue to operate at near optimal capacity levels for the next several quarters. Segment EBITDA was $1,500,000 an increase of $500,000 when compared to the prior year period. Turning to slide 8. Gearing orders were strong in Q3, totaling $15,500,000 up 34% versus the prior year period and nearly 75% sequentially.

3rd quarter segment sales increased to $10,200,000 comes from the line of Chris with Barclays versus $7,600,000 in the prior year quarter as a result of strong order intake we've been experiencing comes from the line of Alex. Since mid-twenty 21, we generated $1,200,000 of segment EBITDA in Q3, An increase of $700,000 versus the prior year quarter and $1,100,000 sequentially. Results versus the prior year period were favorably impacted by increased volumes and a more profitable mix of products shipped. We ended Q3 with almost $39,000,000 of segment backlog, our highest level in recent history. Turning to slide 9.

Total cash and availability under our credit facility remains at an adequate level comes from the line of Alex. With almost $15,000,000 of liquidity at quarter end, the sequential improvement in liquidity is related to the increased availability is afforded by the Wells Fargo Credit Agreement that was finalized in August 2022. Net operating working capital will increase modestly in Q3 to $26,300,000 primarily reflective of a decrease in accounts payable attributable to the timing of vendor payments. Looking towards the end of the year, we expect slightly lower to flat working capital levels as inventory levels continue to moderate in response to some large expected shipments and an improving supply chain. During Q3, net debt increased $4,600,000 as we funded the working capital build, capital expenditures and prepaid assets.

We added new debt associated with machine purchase and we satisfied our interest obligations. While we have taken measures to improve liquidity, we will continue to manage it prudently given the increasing interest rate environment. Comes from the line of Alex. Finally, with respect to our financial guidance, we expect Q4 EBITDA to be approximately $200,000 to $500,000 That concludes my remarks. I will turn the call back over to Eric for an overview of end markets in addition to some concluding remarks.

Thanks, Tom. In the near to medium term, We view the IRA as a significant positive catalyst for the wind sector as it provides the policy certainty long awaited by developers. Now that the IRA's law, we believe that this supported by rising commercial and industrial demand will drive increased wind installations is beginning in 2023. In addition to the positive developments of the PTC extension for wind and the ITC for solar, We await final IRS guidance on the precise treatment of additional incentives in the IRA Act, such as the Advanced Energy Production Credit 45x, this provides a new production credit for domestic manufacturers of the components relating to clean energy, We have increased visibility and stronger backlog across each of our operating segments. As we continue to expand new adjacent Clean tech markets such as solar, clean fuels, power and infrastructure building on our legacy within wind.

In our Heavy Fabrication segment, we are adding automation to improve our plant throughput, optimize labor and reduce costs as we continue to work with our customers to book capacity for towers and other industrial fabrications in 2023. The proprietary Broadwind Pressure Reducing System product line introduced last year to serve the virtual natural gas pipeline market is progressing nicely and plans are on track to introduce a new high flow model to that line early in 2023. Given our current capacity, we have the ability to generate approximately $20,000,000 in annual incremental revenue from this line. In our Gearing segment, we are seeing success with our efforts to broaden our sales mix into less cyclical markets, is offering a more balanced revenue stream as shown by the accelerating bookings from our customers in steel processing and power generation. In Q3, we saw improved price realization, offsetting some of the inflationary cost increases seen this year.

Labor is still a challenge for us as we work to increase our force to meet the increasing demand. And we're pleased to see the favorable impact of increased plant utilization in our Q3 results. Looking forward over the next several years, we are building a precision manufacturing company, which proudly supports the world's transition to a cleaner future. We take pride in that mission and are developing a culture of operational and commercial excellence is supporting that important cause. With our significant process capabilities, we will expand in high growth cleantech markets, is leveraging both our internal and customer led product development efforts.

We want to expand upon the footholds we now have in wind, Clean fuels and power generation, as we look to enter the solar market in a more meaningful way. We will drive margin expansion and profitable growth, leading to reduced net leverage, giving us balance sheet optionality. With the successful execution of this strategy, We expect to generate significant growth in both revenue and EBITDA over the next several years. We are carefully managing costs, CapEx and liquidity as we execute our strategy and remain adequately capitalized to support our growth. And answer session.

A confirmation tone will indicate that your line is in the question Our first question comes from the line of Amit Dayal with H. C. Wainwright. Please proceed with your question. Thank you.

Good morning, everyone. It's good

Speaker 3

to see backlog and order activity picking up

Speaker 1

for you guys.

Speaker 3

Congrats on that. One question around that currency perspective, are you comfortable In terms of your outlook to meet sort of the higher order activity,

Speaker 1

The bigger backlog, etcetera. You're talking about hi, Amit. This is Eric. You're talking about our production capacity?

Speaker 3

No, I'm just talking about the working capital liquidity situation. Are you comfortable with what your balance sheet looks like right now?

Speaker 1

Yes. Thanks, Amit. Yes. I got you, Amit. Yes, I do.

We're about We have about $15,000,000 in cash and availability online right now. And we feel that a lot of the Operating working capital build that we've experienced has kind of moderated at this point. So we expect to go into Q4 with Last and maybe a slightly improved operating working capital. So I think going into 2023, I think we feel pretty comfortable.

Speaker 3

Sequentially, are you positive about how Q4 will

Speaker 1

I I think a lot of the orders that we're taking are really for 2023 production. Our Q4 has been, I guess, firmed up prior to a lot of that order intake.

Speaker 3

Okay. Understood. Understood. And then on the cost side, obviously, as you ramp revenues and add capacity or bring additional capacity online, How should we think about costs through 2023 and maybe even 2024?

Speaker 1

We're seeing our costs increase pursuant to inflationary cost increases that you've seen kind of the 5% to 8% range with labor and whatnot And ancillary costs. But fortunately, we are able to get price realization to offset that Amit.

Speaker 3

Okay. So those have already been implemented?

Speaker 1

Yes.

Speaker 3

Okay. Understood. And are you attributing a lot of the recent positive sort of order and backlog activity to the IRA? Or were there any other

Speaker 1

Yes. I would say the IRA has had some influence, But the majority of the influence has to do with the order activity in our Southern region. There's a lot of projects in the Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas region that we are well located to be able to take advantage of. Subsequent to that though, we are seeing order activity and interest Quoting activity and interest increased as a result of the IRA.

Speaker 3

Okay. Understood. That's all I have for now guys.

Speaker 1

I'll take my other questions off.

Speaker 4

Thanks,

Speaker 1

Amit. Thanks, Amit. Yes. And our next question comes from the line of Martin Malloy with Johnson Rice. Please proceed is your question.

Good morning. Nice to see the quarter trend pickup here with respect to wind. First question, you mentioned solar a couple of times. What are you all doing with respect to solar. Yes.

Through our Industrial Solutions segment, we're doing things like inverter skids. There's a whole cycle of field replacements that's now coming online now, but solar has had some years in the field. And our customers are asking us to help has been designed and manufactured replacement inverter skids to go out into the field that are used to upgrade and replace Wearing in Berglaskin that are in the field. So it's a replacement cycle. Okay.

And then just with respect to the wind order trends, Abilene, that's what's my understanding that that's been operating at a pretty high utilization for a while, but the Manitowoc facility, there just hasn't been the same demand in that region for wind towers. And one of the publicly traded wind blade manufacturers was suggested on their call that it would really be second half of twenty twenty three before you'd see a big ramp up in orders. Can you maybe talk about what you expect in that region that the Manitowoc facility serves from a wind tower perspective is in the time of the question. Yes, Marty, thanks for the question. We are seeing the same thing.

We're seeing that across really across the market, including Some of my competitors in towers. We do think because of the length of the project cycle, it can take several quarters for the funnel to fill back up again. So we are maintaining our capability and our ability, including our workforce, to a large extent to be able to ramp back up comes from the line of Alex. To meet tower demand in the North, which we do expect to come back in the latter half of 2020 3 into 2024. Great.

Thank you very much for answering my questions. Thanks, Marty. Thanks, Marty. And our next question comes from the line of Eric Stine with Craig Hallum. Please proceed with your question.

Good morning, Eric. Hi, Ken. Hi, Eric. Good morning. Hey.

So just coming back to Solar a little bit, you detailed how you're involved now. It did seem and maybe I'm misreading it, but it did seem from the presentation and also your remarks though that you do have Some bigger aspirations, is that fair? And if so, would that be utilization, Seems more along the lines of what you do in your non win segments or would that be Potentially a related acquisition something along those lines. We've got the ability to serve that market out of Industrial Solutions in a growing way, Eric, but I do think if we're going to be meaningful in participating solar, it could come through And acquisition over the next several years. Got it.

But that's not it doesn't sound like that. It does sound like you have bigger aspirations, but not necessarily near term. Right now, it would be the existing business and growth through Industrial Solutions? That's correct. Organic growth through Industrial Fuel Solutions.

That's correct. Yes. Okay. That's helpful. And then A lot of talk here.

Well, certainly good to hear that some of the wind growth that it's not all IRA related and that likely is to comes, but I'm just curious, has there been any change of just kind of OEM stance in offshore related to the IRA? I know that that's is a little bit longer term, but OEMs are often thinking longer term. We haven't seen any meaningful change. And in fact, We are seeing some developers renegotiate some of the PPAs with regard to offshore because of their increasing costs. So the interest is still there with our OEM customers and the developers we're talking to, but it continues to push to the right, primarily because of Permitting and interest rates and inflationary costs.

Yes. Comes from And I did see the one project that got some press off the East Coast. I think it was this week. But okay. And maybe last one for me.

I I just noticed in the presentation, talking about working capital and you noted a decline in project deposits. Is that Is there anything specific to that? Is that timing? Any color there would be helpful for me. Yeah.

Thank you, Eric. I think it's just more due to the mix of customers that we're currently working with. So That tends to ebb and flow depending on who we're working with at the time. So and really that's all that's related to. Okay.

Good to hear. Thank you. And our next question comes from the line of Justin Clare with ROTH from Capital Partners. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker 4

Yes. Hi. Thanks for taking our questions. So I guess first off here just in Q4, it looks like you're guiding to quarter over quarter decline in adjusted EBITDA quarter over quarter that you're anticipating here, is it lower sales? Are you seeing margin compression?

And then from for Q4 as we look into 2023, how should we think about how things trend?

Speaker 1

Yes. I'll take that question Justin and good morning. That is directly a result for some really competitive Tower orders we had to take to maintain our plant utilization or ethylene facility. And that particular order has us going through Q4 into Q1.

Speaker 4

Okay. Got it. So after Q1 that order rolls off and we could see an uptick in margins Beyond that point in time?

Speaker 1

Yes, most definitely.

Speaker 4

Okay. Okay, great. And then just With the increase in the backlog for heavy fabrications that we've seen, I was wondering if you could just talk about how much of your capacity is booked for 2023 and have you mentioned 2024. Have you booked anything for 2024 at this point in time, because it seems like it'd be quite early, but just want to see if your customers are looking really that far out in time now.

Speaker 1

Yeah. From a wind standpoint, if you're speaking to wind specifically, then no, we've not booked into 2024 any wind orders, But there are discussions in the 2024 with regard to wind. With regard to gearing, we are looking into 2024.

Speaker 4

Okay. Got it. And then wanted to better understand the manufacturing tax credit here. Could you share what you're Expecting for the value of that credit per tower here potentially? I know it's partly Yeah.

Well, I'll let you go ahead.

Speaker 1

Yeah. It is we're still trying to kind of figuring it out and we're waiting for the IRS guidance, which we expect will come out in the next several months. We hope sooner rather than later. But the section you're referring to is called 45X and That calls for specific refundable credits for the domestic manufacturer of CleanTech Components. Blades, missiles and towers are specifically called out.

And for towers, it's a $0.03 per watt Credit. So if you think about, let's say, there's a 3 megawatt turbine and we produce the tower underneath that 3 megawatt turbine, It's like 3,000,000 watts in a 3 megawatt turbine. So that could be Quick math about $90,000 credit for that tower.

Speaker 4

Right. Okay. And then I believe that kicks in at the beginning of 2023. So just wondering

Speaker 1

That's correct.

Speaker 4

How should we expect this to kind of flow through your financials or how will you monetize this? Like will you get cash payments from the U. S. Government on a quarterly basis? Or How should we think about that part?

Speaker 1

Yeah. Thanks, Justin. So what we know is that We will be able to monetize them. You don't necessarily have to be a taxpayer. It's a for the 1st 5 years for the statute, you can apply for a tax refund using the direct payment method.

So we know for at least the 1st 5 years, we'll be able to get that. The timing and the transferability is really that's what we're waiting for. That's what's subject to IRS guidance. But What we do know is that it's transferable and that we will be able to monetize it.

Speaker 4

Okay, great. And then Just one more for me. Considering the value of the credit here, has there been any change to your customer contracts, whether it's structure or any meaningful change to the pricing, is this being considered in those contracts or so just any update there would be helpful.

Speaker 1

I think we're all discussing how that might occur in the future, but it really is considered all in the future, Justin. Nothing with any contracts that

Speaker 2

we have that would be in any

Speaker 1

way impacted with our backlog. Actually, we have that would be in any way impacted with our backlog.

Speaker 4

Okay.

Speaker 1

The market is all trying to figure What this means, because the OEMs get some directly, they produce the nacelles as you know, then there's the whole blade incentive and the power incentive. And then of course the PTC is a great demand pool for the market. So we're all kind of figuring out what it means. But there's no doubt it's certainly what we've been waiting for as an industry. It really is a positive catalyst for this industry and we're excited about it.

Speaker 4

Yeah. No, definitely. Okay. Well, best of luck and thanks for the question team.

Speaker 1

Thanks, Justin. Thank you, Justin. Comes

Speaker 2

from the

Speaker 1

line of Eric. There are no further questions at this time. And I would like to turn the floor back over to Eric for any closing comments. Well, Thank you, everyone. We appreciate your interest and look forward to coming back to you after our Q4 results.

Thank you. Concludes today's teleconference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation and have a great day.

Powered by