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Earnings Call: Q2 2015

Jul 23, 2015

Summary

Q2 revenue fell 13% YoY, while adjusted EPS was $1.27. FY15 sales guidance declined to $49B mainly on FX, with profit guidance unchanged; weak end markets and H2 inventory headwinds persisted.

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Caterpillar second quarter 2015 results conference call. At this time, all participants have been placed on listen-only mode. The floor will be open for your questions and comments following the presentation. It is now my pleasure to turn the floor to your host, Mike DeWalt. Sir, the floor is yours. Thank you, Anthony, and good morning, everyone, and welcome to our second quarter earnings call. I'm Mike DeWalt, Caterpillar's Vice President of Financial Services. On the call today, I'm pleased to have our Chairman and CEO, Doug Oberhelman, and Group President and CFO, Brad Halverson. This call is copyrighted by Caterpillar Inc. Any use, recording, or transmission of any portion of the call without the expressed written consent of Caterpillar is strictly prohibited. If you'd like a copy of today's call transcript, we'll be posting it in the investor section of our caterpillar.com website, and it'll be in the section labeled Results Webcast. This morning, we'll be discussing forward-looking information, and that involves risks, uncertainties, and assumptions that could cause our actual results to differ materially from the forward-looking information. A discussion of some of those factors that, either individually or in the aggregate, could make actual results differ materially from our projections, that can be found in our cautionary statements under Item 1A, that's Risk Factors of our Form 10-K, filed with the SEC in February of this year, and also in the forward-looking statements language in today's release. In addition, there's a reconciliation of non-GAAP measures that can be found in our financial release today, and that's also been posted at our caterpillar.com website. Okay, let's get started. This morning, we'll be reviewing our results second quarter and our outlook for 2015. For the quarter, sales and revenues were $12.3 billion and profit per share was $1.16, and that was $1.27 excluding restructuring costs. Both of those numbers were about what we expected, no big surprises. In fact, from a macro standpoint, much of what we were expecting when 2015 started seems to be playing out. We expected that mining would continue to be very weak, and it certainly has. We were concerned about weakening sales of construction equipment in China and Brazil, and both are down substantially from last year. With the sharp drop in oil prices from last fall, we expected we'd have sales headwinds in our Energy & Transportation segment and in construction equipment sales in the parts of the world where oil production was important, and that's happening. On the plus side, we also expected that our people would continue to execute on the things that we can control. And we've done that with decremental margins better than our target. Machinery, Energy & Transportation operating cash flow of $1.6 billion in the second quarter, and a balance sheet that remains healthy with a debt-to-Cap ratio near 35%. With that introduction behind us, let's get into a little more detail on the quarter. Sales and revenues were 13% lower than last year. The decline was widespread, with lower sales in every geographic region of the world and down versus last year in each of our business segments. We'll start with Construction Industries, which was down 18% and down in all regions. Latin America was the most significant decline, down 47%, and that was mostly a result of weak demand in general, and in particular, Brazil. Also absence of a large order that we had from the Brazilian government from last year. Asia-Pacific region was down 30%, with much of that decline in China and Japan. In China, the construction industry continued to weaken, and in Japan, the main issue was currency exchange as the yen weakened versus the dollar, and our sales that are denominated in JPY there are translating into fewer dollars. In the Europe, Africa, Middle East region, Construction Industry sales were down 18%, and much of that was from currency translation as local currencies, particularly the EUR, were weaker than the dollar compared with the second quarter of last year. In addition, there was some unfavorable dealer inventory change in the Europe, Africa, Middle East region. North America was off 3%, and we have seen some strength in residential and non-residential construction, but that's been offset or slightly more than offset by a drop in sales to customers serving oil and gas. In Resource Industries, which is mostly mining, sales were down 11% versus the second quarter of 2014, and mining sales continue to weaken for both new equipment and, to a lesser degree, for aftermarket parts. Sales related to quarry and aggregates did improve, but it wasn't enough to offset the decline in mining. In Resource Industries, sales were down in all regions. Suffice to say that mining remains weak around the world, and we haven't yet seen signs of a recovery. If you'd like a little more regional flavor, there's more in the Resource Industries section in this morning's financial release. For Energy & Transportation, sales were down 12%. While down in all regions, I think probably the most useful way to cover Energy & Transportation is by major industry. That's oil and gas, transportation, power gen, and industrial sales. In short, sales in each of these industries was down. In order of magnitude, the most significant decline was for transportation, and that was mostly lower locomotive sales in North America. Locomotive sales last year in 2014 were pretty good. In 2015, regulations for emissions changed in the U.S., and Tier 4 started. Our Tier 4 locomotive isn't expected to be available until later in 2016, so sales this year are down. Oil and gas-related sales were also lower, and that's probably not surprising to you given the decline in oil prices over the past year and softening investment by oil producers. Sales of industrial engines also declined, and just for your reference, we sell these industrial engines to ag customers, electric power packagers, construction and material handling customers, and for a wide variety of other applications. In general, demand was down a bit, and currency also had an unfavorable impact, particularly in Europe. Power generation sales were also down, and most of that was currency translation related. Again, in Europe in particular, where our EUR-based sales translated into fewer dollars. That's a summary of sales and revenues. Again, all in all, about as we expected for the quarter and down about 13% from last year. Profit in the quarter was $1.16. We did have $0.11 a share or $89 million of restructuring costs, and without restructuring, profit was $1.27. Profit is down from a year ago. We were $1.57 all in, and $1.69 last year in the second quarter, excluding restructuring. Operating profit declined from $1,475,000,000 in the second quarter last year to $1,130,000,000 this year. That's a drop of $345 million. More than all that decline, $483 in total, was a result of lower sales volume. In addition, financial products was down $49 million. R&D costs were a little bit higher than the second quarter of last year as well. On the favorable side for operating profit, price realization was a positive. It was $84 million. Certainly in the right direction, but less than 1% of sales. Manufacturing costs were slightly favorable and would have been more so if not for a headwind from inventory absorption. That was a result of an increase in our inventory over the course of the second quarter of 2014, and a decline in inventory in the second quarter of 2015. Let's talk about currency for a moment. While the impact on sales was negative, over $400 million, it was actually positive to operating profit about $80 million. That's because we have a significant cost base outside the U.S., and a stronger U.S. dollar causes those costs to translate into fewer dollars. That more than offset the negative impact on sales. There are other currency impacts in our P&L as well below operating profit. Other income and expense, again below operating profit, quarter-over-quarter, was unfavorable $78 million. Most of that was related to currency translation on our balance sheet position and hedging. So in summary, on balance, relative to profit, currency didn't have much of an impact second quarter to second quarter. That's profit versus last year. The major story is sales volume. So let's turn to the outlook, and that'll be actually pretty easy to cover because little has actually changed. Back in January, with our original outlook, we expected sales and revenues of about $50 billion. At the end of the first quarter, we held that. This morning, we lowered about $1 billion to $49 billion. The most important point in that is, for the most part, the change is currency related. The dollar strengthened some in the first quarter and strengthened a bit more in the second quarter, particularly against the JPY, and it's moved enough versus our original outlook that we needed to reflect it in today's updated outlook for the year. Sitting here about halfway through the year, except for currency impacts, the overall sales and revenues outlook is still pretty close to what we expected when we started the year. While we would have liked to have been surprised to the upside, our sales outlook of six months ago is proving to be pretty accurate so far. Particularly given the degree of uncertainty in the world and the things that we expected would happen in 2015, including world economic growth that wasn't much different than 2014. The impact of lower oil prices on Energy & Transportation and construction equipment sales. Lower mining sales, headwinds in China and Brazil, and the decline in locomotive sales. Profit in the outlook is being held flat with what we expected at the end of the first quarter, and that's $4.70 a share or $5 a share excluding restructuring. While that's unchanged from last quarter, it is up from our original outlook from January, which was $4.60 a share or $4.75 without restructuring. I mentioned it a few minutes ago, and I think it's probably worth repeating while we're talking about the outlook. What happened in the second quarter for sales and profit is about what we were expecting when we were on this call 3 months ago. If you consider our full-year outlook and actual results for the first half, it's evident that we're expecting lower sales and profit in the second half of the year. Excluding restructuring costs, our outlook would reflect about a $1.24 decline in profit per share first half to second half. That's a result of lower sales in the second half, about $1 billion. Seasonal cost patterns. The first quarter is usually a pretty light quarter for cost, and the fourth quarter is seasonally higher, and that includes R&D costs. We have the absence of the gain in the first quarter on the sale of our remaining interest in the third-party logistics business. We do expect some negative sales mix in the second half, particularly related to oil and gas. That'll likely decline more in the second half than it has in the first half. We're expecting more negative inventory absorption. We're forecasting a decent-sized inventory decline, that's Caterpillar inventory, in the second half of the year, more than the first half of the year. In terms of how the next 2 quarters are going to play out, we think that sales will be less in the third quarter than the fourth quarter, about $750 million lower. That's not unusual. Just for example, in 2014, last year, sales in the third quarter were about $700 million below the fourth quarter. As a result of lower sales in the third quarter, third quarter is likely to be our lowest profit quarter for the year. As expected, again, 2015 is turning out to be another challenging year. We're serving several industries that at the moment are weak: mining, oil and gas, and in many parts of the world, construction. Again, particularly China and Brazil. We are, however, executing on the things that are more in our control. We've taken substantial restructuring actions, and more are likely. We're improving quality, safety, and our market position for many of our products. We're also generating cash. Our Machinery, Energy & Transportation operating cash flow, again, was $1.6 billion in the quarter. Given the weakness in many of our businesses right now, we don't need cash to deploy for capacity, and our balance sheet is strong. Our ME&T debt-to-Cap ratio is near 35%, well within our target range, and we had $7.8 billion of cash on the balance sheet at the end of the second quarter. And that brings me to the other announcement we made this morning, that is our intention to repurchase another $1.5 billion of stock in the third quarter. Now that, plus what we have repurchased in the first half, should take us to around $2 billion by the time we get to the end of the third quarter. As a reminder, we did increase the quarterly dividend in the second quarter, that was back in June. We took it up $0.10 from $0.70 a quarter to $0.77. If you annualize that, it is a rate of about $3.08 a share. So in summary, sales and profit in the second quarter, about as we expected. No change in the profit outlook for the year. $1.6 billion of ME&T operating cash flow in the quarter. $1.5 billion share repurchase. 10% increase in the dividend. We think we have done pretty well with the economic and industry climate we have to work with. We have improved our market position and our operations. All that said, we would certainly be happy to see a better global economy. So, with that, we are ready to take your questions. Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. The floor is now open for questions. If you have any questions or comments, please press the numbers 1 followed by 4 on your touch tone phone at this time. Pressing 1 4 a second time will remove you from the queue should your question be answered. Lastly, while posing your question, please pick up your handset and pressing on speakerphone to provide optimum sound quality. Please hold while we poll for questions. Our first question is coming from Jamie Cook. Please announce your affiliation, then pose your question. Hi. Good morning. Thanks for the time on the question. I guess a couple questions. Just more broadly, can you guys talk about, I guess, Mike, when you are thinking about the second half of the year, or can you talk about oil and gas, the declines that we saw in the second quarter relative to what you expect in the second half? What is implied in your profitability in the second half of the year with regards to oil and gas? I feel like before you said it would be more on the reciprocating engine side, and you still expected Solar Turbines and the marine business to be up. Has that mix changed at all? Yeah, I would say in general what we said before about the recip business for drilling and well servicing, that's where the brunt of the decline is going to be felt. We had a pretty sizable backlog of that coming into the year, and that's actually helped sales in the first half. We're going to see more of the decline in that recip business in the second half. That goes back to my comment on sales mix in the second half. So that'll likely be a bit more negative. I'm sorry, your visibility specifically on Solar Turbines right now, and I'm assuming Solar Turbines is still good relative? Yeah. I'd say everything that we've said about Solar Turbines this year and holding up and the backlog is still the case. I'm going to try not to get too far ahead of ourselves into a discussion about 2016. We don't have an outlook in front of us for 2016. That's not trying to avoid that question. It's just we commonly do that with our October third quarter release, kind of give a preview of what we think for the next year. That said, if you do look at backlogs and what's happened, you don't see Solar Turbines falling apart. It's marching along reasonably well so far this year. I wouldn't say there's anything that I've seen that I would consider to be alarming, if that helps. Okay. Can I ask a second question? Just, I guess broadly, Doug, on mining, we've seen a lot of the mining data points continue to deteriorate, what you're hearing from your customers as well as your competition. I guess, Doug, what would you need to see to change your longer-term view on mining and to take sort of a more aggressive restructuring within Caterpillar? As we think of, I know you're spending this year for the long term, do you feel like the brunt of the spend in mining, in terms of new products and R&D, does that go away in 2015? So 2016, that's less of a headwind. Thanks, and I'll get back in queue. Around mining, most of the restructuring we've taken to date has been aimed at mining. A number of facilities have been downsized, closed, and have been announced to do so this year and next year. We'll continually view that. What we're hearing from customers, of course, and seeing from customers is an ongoing, fairly high production rate. I don't know how long that will hold up, but so far we haven't seen a big drop in production. We've certainly seen no expansion and won't for the foreseeable future. But we have not seen any, or I guess we have seen our trucks and ancillary equipment, especially, being used longer and longer and longer. Service intervals being extended. As long as we see that, we know there's a replacement cycle coming at some point. It's just extended. In terms of where do we see this long term, I think a lot of that's going to depend on what we see for long-term growth rate, and is the world going to grow at 2% for the next 10 years, or is it going to grow at 3% or something else? I think we'll continue to monitor that. We do that right now, and particularly as we go into 2016, we'll take a look at that towards the end of the year. But that would be the driver of how much mining is going to require over the next decade or so, and then, thus, the supply of equipment to them. Okay, next question, please. Our next question is coming from Joel Tiss. Please announce your affiliation, then pose your question. Sorry, I was on mute. Joel. Bank of Montreal. How's it going, guys? Good, Joel. What's up? I was just in Asia, and there's this whole, I guess it's a little old, but I'm old too, but I'm a little behind the curve probably. They're talking about expanding, like giving countries money to help expand their infrastructure and dragging a lot of the Chinese overcapacity and the Chinese suppliers with them. Not stopping at the Chinese border, going all the way, Africa, Eastern Europe, former Soviet republics. As long as Doug is here, I just wondered if you could talk a little bit about, does China bring you guys along with them because you are a local Chinese supplier as they go to these different regions? Or are you already there and can effectively compete with them? How does this play out sort of over the next decade? Hi, Joel. I think you're referring primarily to the Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank, the AIIB, which was announced over a year or so ago. It's been funded now and run by the Chinese. It's a somewhat similar bank to the several regional banks that are around, whether it's Latin America or Asia, to some degree, World Bank. They are focusing certainly around Asian infrastructure. We're there. Our business model works very well. I think a significant piece of this is aimed at the Silk Road, the new One Belt One Road project. It's probably a 50-year project going forward. My expectation would be that we're a local Chinese company. Our dealers service products throughout that region. When it comes down to it and they build infrastructure, complete those kinds of things funded by that AIIB, the best supplier is going to win on construction equipment just like anything else. Will there be bias in another direction? Probably, as we see today, but we do pretty well in China. My expectation is that that's China trying to take its investments even more broadly than they have been doing. We've done pretty well with that around the world so far, and that would be my expectation going forward. Having said that, a bit political, it'd be nice to see the U.S. involved with that. We've not been. A lot of the European countries have joined in, and most Asians have joined in, to aim at areas that need a lot of development. That, I hope, is in our future. But again, a little bit off the subject, but is, I think, pertinent to the answer. Thanks, Joel. I can't do a quick follow-up? Okay, fine. Thank you. Go ahead. I just wondered if, Mike, this isn't giving away 2016 guidance, but can you share with us what the Energy book-to-bill has been in those two different, in the recip engines and in Solar? Well, definitely for recip engines, the backlog has been going down. That's probably no surprise. We haven't got a lot of new orders for oil and gas over the last six months as the oil prices declined and investment is beginning to dry up. So our backlog has definitely come down for the recip side. Not so much for Solar. Okay. Thank you. Next question. Our next question is coming from Joe O'Dea. Please announce your affiliation, then pose your question. Good morning. It's Vertical Research. First question, just on mining and in the press release talking about both equipment and aftermarket being down. I think for a little while now, aftermarket has been trending more flat, so just looking for any context around those aftermarket trends in the quarter, whether this is the beginning of another chapter of declines given commodity movement over the last six months, or if those decline rates were actually pretty small. Yeah, good question, Joe. I wish, honestly, we had a crystal ball where I could give you a very crisp answer for that. I think I'll refer back to Doug's comment a bit ago around customers delaying maintenance intervals and repair intervals. In our view, that's going to catch up. I know that's a little bit of a broken record and we've been saying that, but fundamentally, the more they run this equipment and the longer those repair and maintenance intervals go, the more pressure there's going to be. I don't think anything fundamentally has changed. They still need to repair and maintain vehicles, but I think they're pushing it a little harder right now. Perfect. Thank you. Then maybe just as a follow-up on the power gen side, North America and Asia Pac both flat in the quarter. I think this is on the heels of actually several years of seeing weakness in power gen. So really just asking your confidence in finding any sort of bottom and any visibility you have into improving demand in power gen. Yeah. I think for power gen, and I will just make my comment sort of an around the world comment here, it is very dependent or reasonably tied to global GDP. We have not seen much improvement generally. We have got a pretty flattish world economy. If you think about electric power and a lot of it is backup power. When you build a new school, when you build a new shopping mall, you build a new factory, you need backup power. Until you have maybe an improvement in construction around the world, you are probably not going to see much of a big improvement in electric power. That said, it was the least unfavorable in the quarter of the sort of sectors under E&T, and a lot of the decline was actually currency in Europe. It has been, from a demand standpoint, I think more flattish than some of the others. Great. Thanks very much. Next question, please. Hello? Operator. Our next question is coming from Jerry Revich. Please announce your affiliation, then pose your question. Morning. It's Goldman Sachs. You folks have spent a lot of time on supplier development. Can you just give us an update on how much more room you have to reduce material costs beyond raw material deflation? Obviously, steel costs coming down will help you folks in the back half of the year. Maybe you could also touch on what kind of steel price you're assuming in the guidance over the balance of the year. Thanks. Yeah, Jerry, good question. If you look at our results over the past, actually about three years, we've gotten pretty decent, what we call material cost reduction. That's really been a combination of a couple of things. We have had commodity declines over the last few years, but we've actually, as a company, throughout the company, done a pretty good job on not just commodity-related price reductions, but actually cost reducing components in our products. And we've got pretty good cost reduction doing that. That's a lot of work between suppliers, purchasing, our engineering group, to take costs beyond inflation and commodities out of the product. That continues this year. I think our expectation is there's still quite a bit of room to go there. That's always an ongoing effort. Above and beyond that, it does rely a little bit on what's going on with commodities. But I think there's still a lot of room to run there. I would just add here a little bit. We reorganized our procurement, our logistics, and our lean manufacturing group a while back, and we are really seeing the benefits of that. As Mike DeWalt said, we've seen lower material costs for several years, but at rates that have been unheard of around here prior to that. The operating margins, the pull-through numbers we've seen, even in this down period of sales, we've never experienced before in the past either. I would give this group and the fact that our operating units are embracing that all of the credit, because we're seeing our built-in quality numbers and our quality metrics measured by defects per unit also drop through the floor. All of this is really helping us at a time when we need that kind of efficiency, and it's working well. I think the best is yet to come when sales do pick up, and we can put it to work in a growing environment. Certainly now it's helped us on our decremental pull-through, and quite happy about that. Doug, maybe I'll just make one comment. This is Brad Halverson. Frank Crespo leads that area, and I go on visits with Frank. You would probably maybe not be surprised, but the tenor of these discussions when we go in with our suppliers is all about how we can collaborate, how we can develop a better product solution, more value to the customers, and how can we take cost out of the process. When we go in, I would say to our suppliers in today's environment, maybe compared to seven, eight, nine years ago, the discussions are incredibly different. They're not about what kind of a price decrease can you give me and a discussion and negotiation around that. The discussions are all around collaboration, and I would say that that group's done a great job in the last four, five years with improving the collaboration. There's a lot of talent in suppliers, and they're a huge asset to us. Okay. Thanks. Quick follow-up? Yeah. Just on the pricing side, you folks got better pricing and resources quarter. Doug, over the course of your leadership, you've delivered pretty well on the price side. I'm wondering how much room do you have to deliver modest price increases, even as material costs are flat to down? Do you think you have room there, over the next couple of years, because of how much the premium has come in versus the competitor set? I really don't see much change coming the next couple of years there, unless we would see some inflationary pressure. The entire industry has more than enough capacity. We've got a strong dollar to contend with many of our big key competitors. I'm quite happy with the fact we've been able to more or less beat or meet, anyway, retail CPI around the world and price realization the last few years. The cost reduction at this point. At one point, we talked about cost reduction efficiency, putting into market share, which we have been doing. I'd like to think we could continue that. Our market share, market position over the last few years has trended up nicely and is even the last year up a bit in a very tough environment. I'd like to see that continue. I don't know. I think we'd continue to see more of the same where we've been in terms of price realization. Thank you. Thanks, Jerry. Our next question is coming from David Raso. Please announce your affiliation, then pose your question. Good morning. The conversation on the stock is going to increasingly shift toward the setup into 2016. I know you're not giving 2016 guidance, but can you help us a bit with where you see margins exiting 2015, in particular E&T? I mean, the margins have been stellar there, basically 18%, haven't really taken much of a hit. I'm just curious, how do you see those margins, as well as CI exiting 2014? I'm sorry, 2015. David, this is Mike. Let me start with that. There are some headwinds in the second half of this year. I am not going to get into next year, but I will talk about a couple. One is inventory absorption impacts negative. This year, we are going to end up with a pretty healthy, by the time we get to the end of the year, we think, a reasonably healthy inventory reduction for Cat inventory. If you think about it, our sales this year versus last year are down from about $55 in our outlook down to about $49. There is inventory coming out. Without getting too far ahead and talking about next year, I will just say, if I look at what the analyst consensus is right now for next year, not our forecast, but collectively, you guys have our sales about roughly flat with that next year. If that were the case, the degree of inventory out, which is going to be pretty heavily weighted to the second half of this year, that would be less of a drag. I think the second half of this year is going to have some negatives in it related to that. Also, there is a lot of first half, second half differences, some that are seasonal. Just for example, we tend to build dealer inventory in the first half of the year, as we are kind of preparing for the summer selling season, particularly for construction. Then dealers tend to use inventory in the second half of the year, and we tend to undersell demand. That will be the case, we think, again this year. We expect dealer inventories to come down. There are some kind of built-in headwinds in the second half of the year. I am not going to get into a guidance game too much, but I do not think it is appropriate to probably take the second half of this year and multiply by two, I think because of headwinds like that. All that said, next year will definitely be set up as a bit of a mix problem for us. If you think about this year, particularly in the recip piece of oil and gas, we came into the year with a pretty decent backlog. So much of the sales decline that we are going to have for the year in oil and gas is going to be in the second half of the year. One way to think of it is good first half or a reasonable first half for recip oil and gas, lower second half. Unless something changes in the marketplace- I think the likelihood is that you'd have a couple of weak halves next year. The backlog now, we're kind of through. I think, and I don't think that's likely a big secret, year-over-year, full year-over-year, you'll be looking at probably some margin weakness because of that. I think in terms of E&T margins overall, they've done a great job. If you look at the work that they've done over the past three, four years, it's just been phenomenal. We focus a lot, and we talk a lot when we have you on the phone about oil and gas, but they've taken up margins in almost every part of the business. Industrial, for example, they've done a fabulous job on controlling cost and getting margins up there. I think it's no doubt with recip oil and gas coming down, there will be some pressure on E&T margins in the second half of the year. Unless the situation with oil and gas changes, I'm sure those pressures will continue. I know you would have probably liked a little more of a numerical discussion around 2016, but we'll have that maybe in October. Well, I guess not even 2016, but Mike, I was asking directly if you could at least quantify a little bit the margins exiting the year in E&T and CI. Are you willing to at least say you expect double-digit margins in both CI and E&T, both 3Q and 4Q? We're just trying to get a feel for the run rate to set up into 2016. Well, certainly based on where E&T is right now, there's no doubt in my mind they'll be certainly double digits over the course of the second half. I believe that too for construction. Okay. Then lastly on the backlog. Obviously it's down 23% year-over-year. It's down 15% since the start of the year. How should we think of the backlog expectations the rest of the year, given they at least historically show some relationship to how you guide sales? Are we expecting the backlog to improve the rest of the year or still draw down? I think it probably depends upon the business that we're in, because they all have some seasonality to them. For example, in construction, we tend to get a lot of orders late in the year, and very early in the year, we develop a bigger backlog. Again, it's a little bit like dealer inventory. Dealers are preparing for getting equipment lined up for the selling season. So that'll likely happen, I would think again. Without, again, getting too specific, I would suspect if the seasonal patterns hold, that in the second half, we'd probably build a little bit of backlog in construction. In mining, the whole book-to-bill has been slightly negative. It's getting to a point where there's not a lot of drawdown coming, and I think we should probably be coming to the point where that's not very significant one way or the other. Until we get a recovery, that would be great. Then, in E&T, you talked about the backlog coming down this year, and that goes back to the point that I made a little bit ago. We started the year with a pretty healthy backlog of recip engines for oil and gas, and that's worked down throughout the year. There might be a little bit more of that to come out, but I can tell you, order rates for the first half of the year have been extremely lean. I hope that helps. I guess in aggregate then, is the CI uptick seasonally expected to be large enough to offset the E&T drawdown, I guess is the end of the day question. Yeah. Honestly, I don't know what the backlog forecast is. That isn't something we cover. If I did, I probably wouldn't. We've never disclosed a forecast for that, and I probably wouldn't start. To be honest with you, I don't know. I would personally be surprised, given everything I know, if the change was very much one way or the other over the course of the second half. All right. I appreciate it. Thank you very much. Our next question is coming from Ted Grace. Please state your affiliation, then pose your question. You said that the total revenue guidance is down $1 billion to $49 billion, and it's mostly FX. Is there any mix shift we should just be cognizant of between construction resources and E&T and kind of the expectations for the year? Yeah. I think what I would tell you is that probably a disproportionate share of the currency impact is construction. Mining tends to be, in a lot of the world, a pretty dollar-denominated business. Oil and gas kind of tends to be as well. Not entirely. It's not 100% is construction, but it's probably disproportionately construction. So, earlier in the year, we had thought construction would be down kind of 5%-10%. It'll probably be closer to the top end of that. But outside of that, I think no big shifts in what we thought was going to happen. I said this kind of in my opening comments. We've actually been, I think, pretty good at predicting what's going to happen this year, I think, certainly on the top line and by and large on the bottom line as well. Agreed. So, I think everyone's cognizant of how tough the macro is. One of the key kind of tenets of Cat's business model is market share. I was wondering if you could just talk about, in the context of challenging markets, how you feel Cat's executing against the competitors and specifically maybe in North America construction, if you're comfortable talking about that, EMEA construction, and then, whatever you might feel comfortable talking about within engines. Yeah. I think, generally, I would say we've done pretty good on share. It's been a fairly consistent march up year after year for about, I think, the last four years. It's not always every product, every quarter, but it's a good generic comment to make. We've done well over that time period in North America. We've got a couple of things I would say are really helping us with share. We have excellent Tier 4 products. We are the fuel economy leader at Tier 4. We're promoting the heck out of that. Quality of the Tier 4 products has been very good. Customers like them. So that's helped us a lot and Tier 4 and the European equivalent is essentially in those developed markets, and that's very much a comment around North America. We've done a pretty decent job. We've also, as Doug mentioned earlier, kept price increases pretty modest, and that's helped. And we've been able to do that because we've taken a lot of cost out, and we've essentially reinvested that in market share and have done, I think, a pretty decent job. I just would like to add here on our Tier 4 Final product. This is another big year for that. We are over halfway through Final here and in Europe. In all of our models, we have seen an increase in fuel economy. We have seen a drop in defects per unit, and those two things going into the marketplace have really helped us offset aggressive competitors, both because of the dollar and because of capacity. I really am happy with where our product stands today, particularly given our past history in some of these things where we have introduced a lot of new product at once, but we are in really good shape with this going forward. I think the built-in quality, the lean metrics around what we measure now and the way in which we manage our factories and design are coming through nicely, and we see that, and that has been a big help to us in a tough cycle here. The last thing I will ask, I will get back in queue. In terms of what you are seeing on the pricing front from a competitive dynamic, particularly in North America, is it staying rational? Are you seeing any kind of shifts in that regard? That will be the last thing I ask. I do not have anything in particular that is dramatically different. No. Okay. Thanks, Doug. Best of luck this quarter, guys. Okay, Ted. Thanks. Our next question is coming from Henry Kirn. Please state your affiliation and pose your question. Hi, good morning. It's SG. Hey, good morning, Henry. Welcome back. Thank you. It's good to be back. You mentioned in the press release accelerated focus on emerging technologies. Could you talk a little about the expectations for the level of investment required and maybe at a high level, the required returns profile and the bigger picture goals there? What we're really referring to is the ongoing number of investments around connected machines to our factories, to our engineers, to our suppliers, to their owners, and to their dealers. We've had a number of announcements around that. I expect to have a number more of those. The revolution is happening around big data and data analytics, and we're right in the middle of it with the idea being to connect every single one of our machines and hopefully those that aren't our machines and our customers with us in a very efficient way to raise their productivity. I think you'll see continued emphasis on that. I would expect the returns actually on those to be very attractive as we go. It's a process because we're starting from, not starting from scratch since we had a lot of that internally, but developing that externally. We're taking advantage of a lot of that investment that's occurred outside of our industry and is known there. Really optimistic about it, early days, and I think we'll really change our customers' and our dealers' world over the next decade. This is really the beginning of that basis. Thank you. Now that the Greek situation is at least temporarily resolved, can you talk about what your folks on the ground there are seeing? If there were green shoots, how would you expect that to begin to show up in the order book? I would say in Greece, we have such a small position there. It is such a small market. Even in the good days, it would not ring any bells around here. I think the bigger issue with Greece is the amount of uncertainty it drives in the EAME and beyond. That is specifically in South Europe. Having that toned down and calmed down out of the headlines every single day may help. I think it depends on what the European Central Bank does and the individual governments going forward to have some kind of recovery in their economies. I would point out our retail numbers yesterday, while down in EAME, after United States were the best, it is still a down market. But we are not seeing total catastrophe there like we saw 2, 3, 4 years ago. I would say stability is probably in the not-too-distant future, and I do not know when growth will return, but it will. I think that the Greece thing is one of those that needs to get behind us all in order to reestablish some kind of stability in the political environment over there, which will lead then to some kind of economic stability and hopefully growth in the not-too-distant future. All right. Thank you very much. Okay. Next question. Our next question comes from Ann Duignan. Please announce your affiliation, then pose your question. Yeah. Hi, good morning. JPMorgan. My first question is just around the backlog being down 23% at this point. Mike, how feasible is it in any way, shape, or form that revenues could be up next year? It all depends on what happens in the economy. In many of our businesses, we don't commonly have much of a backlog. The entire aftermarket business, construction, is a pretty short lead time business. I think whether sales are up or not next year isn't necessarily driven by what's in the backlog today. It'll be more a case of where are commodity prices as we start to exit the year, and that'll be based on where's the global economy going. I don't think right now I would draw a direct link between the backlog and the sales forecast. A lot could change in the next six months, good or bad. I'm not trying to sugarcoat it. I'm just saying that sales next year are going to be dependent a lot on what happens in the global economy. We're on the edge right now of what's needed for growth. We have a pretty decent correlation, particularly in the U.S., when GDP is above 2.5%, we tend to grow. When it's about 2.5% or below, and it varies by degree, we don't. I think a decent recovery in the economy would help a lot. I know that's a simplistic answer, but it's the truth. No, I think that's fair. Then my follow-up question would be of Doug, again, with backlogs being down 23%, I was a little surprised, Doug, that R&D was flat year-over-year and SG&A only down 3%. What would it take for you to have to seriously look at those two line items and say, "You know what? We're going to have to cut some of these projects that we're working on," or some deeper cuts than just shutting manufacturing plants? Ann, we started the year in December, January, hoping to actually increase our R&D 2015 over 2014. We have not done that. In fact, we took that back to flat, as you alluded to, as well as CapEx. We are constantly monitoring the market long term. You've heard me say many times, in the past, we have not had the availability when markets turn up and we lose market share. We're paranoid about market share around here. It's what drives us and drives our dealers. I would say to see a major reduction, and I'm not going to find that, we'd have to see some kind of a cataclysm downwards in our top line. If we see that, we'll react, as we have in the past and shown we can do that. That would be the catalyst. If we see something really nasty coming or happening, we will go right after it. Okay, would you consider not repurchasing shares in the same environment, or is the share repurchase a done deal? Well, the share repurchase that we talked about this morning, Ann, is what we expect to do for the third quarter. We've not really talked or placed any kind of forecast or estimates or anything in the market around what we would do after that. I certainly wouldn't describe the third quarter as a done deal, per se, but it's absolutely what we intend to do. What drives our buyback, it drives our capital allocation, everything else, is really a strong balance sheet. With the balance sheet today at 33%-34% debt to CapEx with almost $8 billion in cash, taking $1.5 billion off in the third quarter still leaves us in a great position going forward if we saw a cataclysm or if we don't. That's really how we look at it, because we absolutely have to have that strong balance sheet to get us through growth times and times we're not growing like we have. We've never been positioned at a time like this with that strong of a balance sheet, which allows us to return some of that to shareholders. Now, we go down in top line further, we'll have to assess where we are with our capital structure and everything else and all that would play into it. We'd probably revise it to some degree. We've got plenty of room and plenty of years in our $10 billion authorization with four to go to get that done or not. We assess that all the time. Ann, maybe this is Brad, I'll just make a comment. We're trying to act very consistent within our business model. We've talked about going back to 2012, our sales are down $16 billion-$17 billion. What we've wanted to do over this timeframe is to grow our market share, to improve our quality. We've had very little price action relative to that. So the quality of our earnings is to deliver 25% decremental to 30% decremental numbers, balancing all these things in terms of what we can do. With the work we've been able to do on our variable margin, we're going to be right around 25% for that period. We're well below 25%-30% decremental in the first half of the year. Because of that, we are very happy to be able to fund our R&D programs and to be in a position of strength to have those when the market does turn around. As Doug mentioned, we have got close to $8 billion of cash. Our debt to CapEx is low. We do not have huge CapEx needs at this point in time, and we are going to fund R&D at close to the levels of 2012, which was a record year. We will do all that and still have a very strong balance sheet heading into next year. I appreciate that all in the backdrop of a global macro environment that is very hard to call right now. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Okay, I will get back in line. Thank you. I appreciate the time. Our next question is going to Vishal Shah. Please announce your affiliation then pose your question. Yeah, thanks. Deutsche Bank. Can you talk about your inventory levels? What do you think the right-sized inventory levels would be, and how does the reduction impact by different segments? Vishal, are you talking about our inventory or dealer inventory? I would say your inventory levels. I think you said that you're going to reduce your inventory levels in the back half of the year. Yeah. What is the run rate you expect at the end of the year, and where does the reduction come from? Yeah. I think if you look at our business, we, a bit like dealers, sometimes tend to build some inventory in the beginning of the year as we're ramping up production for the selling season. Then when we get particularly in the fourth quarter, we have a tendency to sell more than we produce, and inventory comes down. I think a part of what you're going to see in the fourth quarter is just a little bit of a seasonal pattern for us. That happened last year as well. We had a pretty sizable inventory reduction in the second half. I think if you just look at our inventory levels broadly, Cat inventory, we're working on lean. We'd like kind of year in and year out to take them down for efficiency. It would be nice if we had enough increase in volume that it caused inventory to go up from a volume standpoint. But all else being equal, we're working hard to improve inventory turns and be more efficient. I guess all else being equal, I would like to see it continue to come down a little bit as we improve processes. I'll make a comment on dealer inventory too. It wasn't asked directly, but I think most of what we're seeing over the course of this year, first half, second half, it'll be more reduction in the second half. But again, I think there's some seasonality in dealer inventory that way. It'll likely start to build again in the first quarter for the selling season. I don't think dealer inventories overall are out of line or problematic or anything of the case like that. I think reasonably speaking, most of the dealer inventory reduction that was because there was too much per se, happened in 2013 and 2014. With that, we are at the top of the hour, and I just want to thank everybody for joining us today. We'll sign off and talk to you again next quarter. Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. This concludes today's teleconference. You may disconnect your phone lines at this time, and have a wonderful day. Thank you for your participation.