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Earnings Call: Q2 2023

May 11, 2023

Operator

Greetings, and welcome to the Cemtrex second quarter 2023 financial results conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. A question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. Before we begin the formal presentation, I would like to remind everyone that statements made on the call and webcast may include predictions, estimates, or other information that might be considered forward-looking. While these forward-looking statements represent our current judgment on what the future holds, they are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially. You are cautioned not to place undue reliance on these forward-looking statements, which reflect our opinions only as of the date of this presentation.

Please keep in mind that we are not obligating ourselves to revise or publicly release the results of any revision to these forward-looking statements in light of new information or future events. Throughout today's discussion, we will attempt to present some important factors relating to our business that may affect our predictions. You should also review our most recent Form 10-K and Form 10-Q for a more complete discussion of these factors and other risks, particularly under the heading Risk Factors. A press release detailing these results was issued today and is available on the investor relations section of our company's website, cemtrex.com. Your host today, Saagar Govil, Chief Executive Officer, and Paul Wyckoff, Chief Financial Officer, will present results of operations for the second quarter ended March 31st, 2023. At this time, I will turn the conference over to Cemtrex Chief Executive Officer, Saagar Govil.

Saagar Govil
CEO, Cemtrex

Thank you, operator, and good afternoon, everyone. I'm pleased to welcome you to today's second quarter 2023 financial results conference call. A quarter which we feel represents a true look into the company's realignment and operating performance power. The second quarter of fiscal year 2023 was highlighted by a return to operating profit, driven by the sweeping efforts we have taken throughout the business. Sales execution by Vicon with multiple large orders resulted in revenue growth of 37% year-over-year. In combination with operational improvements, the quarter led to a gross margin improvement of 1,360 basis points to 46%. We continue to expect increases in our gross margin over the next couple of quarters as we make further enhancements in Vicon's business.

Overall, operating income for the quarter increased to $0.4 million, compared to an operating loss of $2.9 million a year ago. Our quarterly performance is now reflecting our shift in focus to the Vicon and Advanced Industrial Services, or AIS, businesses. With the actions we have taken to drive business improvement and the increasing demand for security solutions, we expect to achieve a full year operating profit for fiscal year 2024. We also believe that there is room within our inventory and asset base to draw extra liquidity in order to continue to maintain a healthy cash position. As a reminder, we have now modified our financial presentation into three segments: Security, consisting of Vicon, Industrial Services, consisting of AIS, and Cemtrex Corporate.

Year-over-year, improving revenues in our security segment were led by Vicon with a 47% increase, driven by strong demand from customers for its award-winning Roughneck cameras and Valerus video management software solutions. During the quarter, we released a new suite of AI-based analytics in an enhanced Vicon Roughneck AI camera series, further improving our unified VMS platform for controlling video, access control, license plate recognition, and other integrated applications. We view this release as the first step in our AI roadmap and ultimately believe that artificial intelligence is going to contribute massively to improving the security industry, and our product roadmap is intensely focused on leveraging these new AI tools to deliver features and benefits over the coming months and years.

Vicon's orders included a recent $1.5 million order and a follow-up $1.1 million order from a current large border protection customer in Texas to expand its security technology system with new security solutions. Increasing modernization of the current security infrastructure is accelerating the growth of the border security market, driven by the rise of geopolitical instability and an increase in border threat assessments. Another $0.8 million order for a new prison being built in the U.K. includes a full end-to-end system of Vicon surveillance products, including hardware and software, equipped with the latest smart technologies to better protect prisoners, staff, and public. We see demand in the U.S. and internationally from corrections facilities as a growth driver for us, as they are increasingly focusing on deploying the latest and greatest technologies.

With Vicon on track to launch more products this year, as well as continued improvements to our core software platform, Valerus, we expect to drive further growth. We believe revenues for Vicon Industries based on our current demand will exceed our earlier expectations of $28 million for fiscal year 2023, given the growing demand for our products and solutions. Additionally, we see further opportunity to grow our gross margin percent in fiscal year 2024. Revenue for our industrial services segment, AIS, increased 23% during the quarter, mainly due to increased demand for our services.

We believe AIS will continue to expand revenues and may exceed our original 3% target of $21.8 million for fiscal year 2023, driven by continued strength in the industrial services market. The gross profit margin for AIS improved to 36% for the quarter compared to 29% for the year prior, driven by increased prices and lower subcontractor costs. The gross margin percent is expected to maintain or exceed approximately 34% for the fiscal year 2023 for AIS. Looking ahead, we believe that continued reshoring of manufacturing to the United States as well as investments in infrastructure here will play a key role in AIS's long-term growth. I'll now turn over the call to Paul Wyckoff, our CFO, to discuss the financials.

Paul Wyckoff
CFO, Cemtrex

Thank you, Saagar. Revenue for the three months ended March 31st, 2023 and 2022 was $16.1 million and $11.7 million respectively, an increase of 37%. This increase is mainly due to increased demand for the company's products and services. The security segment revenues for the three months ended March 31st, 2023 increased by 47% to $9.9 million. The security segment increase was due to an increased demand for security technology products under the Vicon brand. The industrial services segment revenues for the quarter increased by 23% to $6.2 million, mainly due to increased demand for the industrial services products under the Advanced Industrial Services brand.

Gross profit for the second quarter of 2023 was $7.3 million, or 46% of revenues, as compared to a gross profit of $3.8 million or 32% of revenues for the same period a year ago, mainly attributed to increased pricing and lower subcontractor costs. Total operating expenses for the three months ended March 31st, 2023 were $6.9 million, compared to $6.7 million in the prior year's quarter. The increase was due to an increase in research and development expenses for the period. Operating income for the second quarter of 2023 was $0.4 million, as compared to an operating loss of $2.9 million for the second quarter of 2022. The increase was primarily due to an increase in gross profits for the period.

Net loss for the quarter ended March 31, 2023, was $0.6 million, as compared to a net loss of $4.7 million in 2022. Net loss decreased in the second quarter as compared to the same period last year, primarily due to the higher revenues and higher gross profits. Cash and cash equivalents totaled $6.6 million at March 31, 2023, as compared to $9.9 million at September 30, 2022. Inventories increased $8.6 million at March 31st, 2023, from $8.5 million at September 30th, 2022. I will now turn the call back to Saagar for a review of our 2023 outlook.

Saagar Govil
CEO, Cemtrex

Thank you, Paul. In summary, with approximately $6.6 million in cash, our restructuring complete, revenue growth, increasing margins, operating income improvement, and reduction in expenses, we believe we are well positioned to execute on our roadmap. With achieving a critical milestone of operating profit for the quarter, we are optimistic for the year ahead and the ability to achieve a full year positive operating income by fiscal year 2024 while driving attractive top-line growth. We look forward to providing additional updates in the months to come as we accelerate our efforts to build long-term value for our shareholders. I look forward to providing our shareholders with further updates throughout 2023. I thank you all for attending and now would like to open it up for questions. Operator?

Operator

Thank you. We will now be conducting a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star two if you'd like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star key. One moment please while we poll for questions. Thank you. Our first question is from Jason Kolbert with Dawson James. Please proceed with your question.

Jason Kolbert
Analyst, Dawson James

Hi, guys. Congratulations on the numbers. They look really good. What was the principal driver behind the growth at Vicon? Was it, you know, technology? Is it that your reputation is now, you know, you've met a couple of orders and you're seeing reorders? Help me understand the dynamics of that and what it means for the rest of the year.

Saagar Govil
CEO, Cemtrex

Yeah, it's a good question, so I appreciate that. I think it's a combination of a lot of things working in sync with us. You know, if we think about it as kind of like a flywheel. You know, we have obviously a solid reputation. We are building on that reputation. We, you know, as we get more orders, we execute on them well, and we continue to build confidence with our customers, and that's where we're getting this repeat business. Naturally, the Vicon brand has been around, so you know, we have a reputation in the market for delivering these kinds of mission-critical applications such as corrections and border protection. It's also just the environment, frankly.

You know, we're seeing the need for security to be ever present, there's just genuine interest in beefing up security. You know, we have conversations every day with facilities where, you know, they're just not doing enough on the security side, and they think it's time that they start implementing more and more of the technology that's out there, modernizing their infrastructure, right? CCTV has been around for decades, a lot of facilities, more than you'd expect, have pretty legacy infrastructure in place. A lot of it is really about modernizing and bringing up to speed.

There's no time like the present because there's really novel technologies out there that we offer that, you know, companies can start to adjust even, you know, with our Roughneck AI cameras, with license plate recognition, things like that. You know, there's a lot of opportunity for upgrades and so forth. You know, because of the legacy install base, being able to upsell into newer platforms, all of that contributes to our ability to continue to maintain those relationships, to build confidence, continue to move legacy systems into, you know, modern, deployments, right? To continue to accelerate their growth. We see that well into the future. There'll be no shortage of those kinds of opportunities to really grow our business for the next several years.

Jason Kolbert
Analyst, Dawson James

How important is AI? Competitively, what gives you the edge versus others that you know are gonna be working to catch up?

Saagar Govil
CEO, Cemtrex

The reality is that in the industry, you know, a lot of these AI tools are off the shelf, and many companies deploy them, but they deploy them poorly. One of the things that we take pride on is, you know, our software package, Valerus, is considered one of the easiest to use, products in the, in the market. You can give customers tools, but if they don't use it's of no value, right? You generate sales by creating value for your customers.

I think we pride ourselves as an organization on being able to give these tools in a way that allows people to use them easily, deploy them quickly, get them up and running, and that's really a critical part of the strategy and how, you know, we're gonna have to compete as we go forward. A lot of these tools, you know, many of them start out as open source, and then they get trained on specific data. I think the other side of it is having access to unique datasets, and we're continuing to build a strategy that gives us that ability.

I think on a number of fronts, you know, it's gonna be a competitive space, but I think we're in the very early innings of what's possible with AI, and it's a huge, huge opportunity in front of us in terms of the scope and the potential to capitalize on that.

Jason Kolbert
Analyst, Dawson James

My last question has to do with the, you know, industrial side of the business. How are you managing the growth on that side? Help me understand kind of how you're gonna manage the growth of the company, given the fact that you have these two very different divisions, both of which seem to be, you know, firing on all cylinders right now.

Saagar Govil
CEO, Cemtrex

Well, we actually have a really fantastic team at AIS, you know, with our leadership team there and the managers underneath. It's a well-established business. It's firing on all cylinders, and they're continuing to find opportunities in the market to grow the business. You know, the truth is that Vicon and AIS operate completely independently, and it works quite well. At the corporate level, you know, we're pretty lean from that perspective, and we empower our management teams to run the businesses effectively, right? The competencies around the nuances specific to each business, a lot of that is done at the management level, and we delegate a lot of that. You know, we don't see that as an issue in terms of continuing to drive growth.

In fact, I would say that, you know, in the last two years, we have a new management team in there. They've demonstrated enormous ability to run the company well and continue to find areas of growth. We're optimistic that that'll continue going forward and we'll exceed, you know, probably our earlier expectations around growth. We also supplement that with acquisitions, right? A lot of, you know, we've managed a lot of acquisitions over the years, and I think that'll be another area where we'll be able to leverage a lot of value to that team and continue to scale the business. I see opportunity there as well.

Jason Kolbert
Analyst, Dawson James

Thank you so much. Congratulations on the quarter.

Saagar Govil
CEO, Cemtrex

Yeah. Thanks.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is from Alan Rosenthal with Scarlet Knight Capital. Please proceed with your question.

Alan Rosenthal
Analyst, Scarlet Knight Capital

Gentlemen, excellent quarter. fabulous work. two questions. I'll ask them both and then just listen to the response. The first one is, I think Title 42 ends tonight at midnight. how do you see that affecting Vicon's business one way or the other, if at all? That's first. The second question is in the Vicon business, given the new suite of products and solutions that were released over the last several months, can you talk a little bit about the margins in the business on that side of the business? I'll go back on mute and listen.

Saagar Govil
CEO, Cemtrex

Sure. Thanks for the questions, Alan. Regarding Title 42, you know, naturally we've gotten some big orders, as we said earlier and as we communicated to the street, in the border vertical. It seems like Title 42 being vacated will have enormous ramifications, or you know, ensuing chaos is maybe the way to put it lightly. There's clearly tremendous opportunity. You know, now I can't speak to specifically what the folks down there are thinking, but, you know, it sounds like a pretty chaotic situation and if things continue to get worse, you know, that could drive more business for us. There's no doubt about that.

You know, naturally we, you know, don't want bad things to happen, but, you know, we're in security and our job is to provide the best solutions to address the needs of the border and to the customer that we provide our services to. There's certainly opportunity there. Ultimately, I think, you know, it'll be interesting to see how it plays out. But yeah, as things get worse there, you know, there's always a growing need for security. There's no question about that. Then, could you remind me about the second question?

Alan Rosenthal
Analyst, Scarlet Knight Capital

Yeah. It was regarding the fact that you had released a new suite of products and solutions, you know, the AI cameras and so on. Just if you could speak a little bit to the, to the margins you're seeing that this is going forward, especially as it continues to grow, continue expansion and so on. Do you know what your thoughts was?

Saagar Govil
CEO, Cemtrex

Sure, yeah. With respect to growth margins, software is gonna become more larger part of our revenue as we go forward. You know, our perspective is that as that continues to scale and we sell more and more software, that that'll continue to help move margin, gross margins up. We see that, you know, as over the next, you know, in looking into fiscal year 2024, that there'll be further opportunity to drive expansion there from that perspective. So really it's a combination of that. There's also further opportunity from, just logistical costs and so forth, infrastructure, you know, providing more, managing that side of the business in terms of shipping costs. So we see opportunity on both those fronts.

I think as we continue to develop software solutions, specifically AI-driven software solutions, you know, there'll be margin expansion as software becomes a bigger and bigger part of our overall revenue share.

Alan Rosenthal
Analyst, Scarlet Knight Capital

Thank you. That's great. I appreciate it. Great quarter. Looking forward to the next one.

Saagar Govil
CEO, Cemtrex

Thanks. Any other questions?

Operator

Thank you. There are no further questions at this time. I would like to turn the call back over to Mr. Govil for any closing comments.

Saagar Govil
CEO, Cemtrex

Thank you, operator. Would like to thank each of you for joining our earnings conference call today and look forward to continue to update you on our progress and growth. If we were unable to answer any questions today, please feel free to reach out to our IR firm, MZ Group , who'd be more than happy to facilitate a response. Thank you. Have a good evening.

Operator

This concludes today's conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.

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