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Earnings Call: Q3 2023

Nov 2, 2023

Operator

Good morning, everyone, and thank you for participating in today's conference call to discuss Climb Global Solutions' financial results for the Q3 , ended September 30, 2023. Joining us today are Climb CEO, Mr. Dale Foster, the company's CFO, Mr. Drew Clark, and the company's investor relations advisor, Mr. Sean Mansouri, with Elevate IR. By now, everyone should have access to the Q3 2023 earnings press release, which was issued yesterday afternoon at approximately 4:05 P.M. Eastern Time. The release is available in the Investor Relations section of Climb Global Solutions website at www.climbglobalsolutions.com. This call will also be available for webcast replay on the company's website. Following management remarks, we'll open up the call for your questions. I'd now like to turn the call over to Mr. Mansouri for introductory comments.

Sean Mansouri
Head of Investor Relations, Elevate IR

Thank you. Before I introduce Dale, I'd like to remind listeners that certain comments made on this conference call and webcast are considered forward-looking statements under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These forward-looking statements are subject to certain known and unknown risks and uncertainties, as well as assumptions that could cause actual results to differ materially from those reflected in these forward-looking statements. These forward-looking statements are also subject to other risks and uncertainties that are described from time to time in the company's filings with the SEC. Do not place undue reliance on any forward-looking statements, which are being made only as of the date of this call. Except as required by law, the company undertakes no obligation to revise or publicly release the results of any revision to any forward-looking statements.

Our presentation also includes certain non-GAAP financial measures, including adjusted gross billings, adjusted EBITDA, adjusted net income and EPS, as well as effective margin as supplemental measures of performance of our business. All non-GAAP measures have been reconciled to the most directly comparable GAAP measures in accordance with SEC rules. You'll find reconciliation charts and other important information in the earnings press release and Form 8-K we furnished to the SEC yesterday. I'll now turn the call over to Climb CEO, Dale Foster.

Dale Foster
CEO, Climb Global Solutions

Thank you, Sean, and good morning, everyone. We made steady progress on our core initiatives during the quarter, as reflected by another period of organic growth and profitability, alongside our recent acquisition of DataSolutions. At a high level, this acquisition enables us to deepen our line card and efficiently grow market share in Europe. I'd like to publicly welcome the DataSolutions team to the Climb family and look forward to working with the new team in the months ahead. As we previously mentioned, our commitment is to have a focused vendor line card by selecting the most innovative technology companies in the market. Out of our 29 brands that we evaluated in the Q3 , we signed agreements with only 3 of them. Excuse me. I'd like to quickly highlight a couple of these wins.

First, we partnered with GigaIO, a pioneer in artificial intelligence and high-performance data center solutions. This collaboration represents another step forward in our data center product line and will enable us to deliver additional cutting-edge solutions to the channel to optimize data center operations. Next, we kicked off a relationship with Security Compass, a leading provider of cybersecurity solutions that integrates directly with existing DevSecOps tools and workflows, allowing organizations to release secure and compliant software to the market quickly and cost effectively. We are excited to collaborate with each of these vendors and bring their products to market, building a mutually beneficial relationship along the way. In early October, we closed the acquisition of DataSolutions, headquartered in Dublin, Ireland, a leading specialty distributor of cloud and security solutions, with sales in both Ireland and the UK.

DataSolutions brings a deep network of relationships to Climb, including 14 focused vendor partnerships such as Check Point, Citrix, Neustar, to name a few. In addition to their strong vendor relationships, DataSolutions carries a robust recurring revenue base, with more than 90% of their fiscal 2023 revenue coming from existing partners. We expect this acquisition to be immediately accretive to earnings and adjusted EBITDA. We've already identified cross-selling opportunities and look forward to unlocking additional potential as we integrate DataSolutions into the Climb operating systems in the months ahead. Shortly after the acquisition of DataSolutions, we announced our technical services division, known as Cloud Know How, completed a rebrand to Climb Global Services. This rebranding signifies our commitment to unifying our operating divisions under 1 uniform brand to build a truly global platform.

Currently, our service team delivers migration, modernization, management, and services for MSPs, resellers, and their respective end users, clients on platforms such as Microsoft Azure, ManageEngine, and Acronis. We're excited about the continued expanding of our professional services arm to provide a more comprehensive solution to our growing customer base across the globe. Quickly touching on the macro environment. Despite broader challenges and global uncertainty, our vendor and acquisition pipelines remain strong, and customer sentiment for the next year continues to be positive. We continue to monitor our evolving economic landscape and the potential of softening in the markets we serve, particularly where large competitors have experienced softness in the hardware sector.

... However, we believe we are still well-positioned to drive value and growth to our customers and vendors in the future as we scale our global footprint. As I've mentioned before, our team is always focused on the long game. Looking ahead, we will remain diligent in our M&A strategy as we evaluate opportunities that can bolster our line card and add to our financial profile, both in North America and overseas. With a strong balance sheet and a robust pipeline of targets, we can be selective as we pursue acquisitions that will further add scale as we align with our culture and strategic goals. With this, I will turn the call over to our CFO, Drew Clark, and he will take you through the financial results. Thank you. Drew?

Drew Clark
CFO, Climb Global Solutions

Thank you, Dale. Good morning, everyone. As I go through our financial results, I would like to remind everyone that all comparisons and various commentary refer to the prior year quarter, unless otherwise specified. Jumping right in, as reported in our earnings press release, adjusted gross billings, or AGB, which is a non-GAAP measure, increased 7% to $0.9 million compared to $2.3 million the year ago quarter. In addition, net sales in the Q3 of 2023 increased approximately 3% to $78.5 million compared to $66.3 million, primarily reflect the organic growth from our new and existing vendors. As we've communicated before, we focus on AGB as the true metric of our top-line growth, as the calculation of net sales is influenced by product mix and respective adjustments for AGB to net sales for financial reporting purposes under GAAP.

[audio distortion] In the Q3 , we had an increase in sales security, maintenance, and cloud products, which recorded a net of related cost of sales, and therefore leads to a larger adjustment from AGB to net sales. Gross profit in the Q3 increased 6% to $14.3 million, compared to $15.5 million. Again, the increase was primarily driven by organic growth from new vendors and our existing top 20 vendors in North America and Europe. This growth was partly offset by several large customers taking advantage of early pay discounts, or EP, compared to the year ago period. For example, in the month of September, we had approximately $500,000 more in EP taken as compared to the prior year. Even with the development, growth processes [audio distortion] remained consistent, 5.1%. As net increased [audio distortion] in the year before.

[audio distortion] . As we previously indicated on our earnings calls, improvement in gross and insurance investment in our infrastructure. As you can see, AGB increased 0.6% versus the 3.4% year-to-period. We move forward with expecting extensive AGB content in 2024, as we continue to gain scale operations and operating leverage. Income in the Q3 of 2023 increased 6% compared to 2024, compared to shares compared to 20.7. As mentioned in our press release, earnings per diluted share that are acquired in 2023 from $0.84 to $0.87 before expenses associated with the acquisition of solutions, and down from [audio distortion] , compared to the prior year. Operating increased 2% to $5.5 million compared to $4.9 million.

[audio distortion] The increase was partially from above management growth, partly by investment in infrastructures and cost associated with the acquisition of DataS olutions. Profit margin is 32.5%, compared to 30.6% in the year period. Our large profits were impacted by an increase in customer discounts that are increased. Turning to our balance sheet, cash and cash equivalents were $49.8 million on September 30, 2023, compared to $20.2 million on December 31, 2022, while working capital increased by $5.2 million during this period. The increase in cash was primarily attributed to the timing of receivable collections and vendor payments. The benefit of increased EP is the timely collection of our receivables, which has maintained our DSO metric in the U.S. below 32 days.

As of September 30, 2023, we had $1.4 million of outstanding debt with no borrowings outstanding under our $50 million revolving credit facility with JPMorgan Chase. Subsequent to quarter end and consistent with prior quarters, our board of directors declared on October 31, 2023, a quarterly dividend of $0.17 per share of our common stock, payable on November 17, 2023, to shareholders of record as of November 13, 2023. Looking ahead, we will continue to leverage our strong liquidity position to explore acquisition opportunities in both domestic and international markets. This will enable us to expand our service and solution offerings, reach new customers, and accelerate our expansion into new markets. We look forward to closing out the Q4 on a strong note and continuing to execute our game plan in 2024 and beyond. This now concludes our prepared remarks.

We will now open it up for questions from those participating in the call. Operator, back to you.

Operator

Thank you. At this time, we will conduct the question-and-answer session. As a reminder, to ask a question, you will need to press * 1 1 on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. Again, that's * 1 1 on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press * 1 1 again. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster.

...Our first question comes from Vince Colicchio with Barrington Research. Please go ahead.

Vince Colicchio
Managing Director and Senior Equity Analyst, Barrington Research

Yes, hello, guys. I just want to call out that couldn't hear Drew's comments very well until he started talking about the balance sheet. Having said that, Dale, I'm curious if any vendor categories slowed in the quarter versus your expectations and how the overall business is trending in October?

Dale Foster
CEO, Climb Global Solutions

Yeah, just to, for looking at the Q, I mean, we had, we looked at, we had some pockets, you know, typically, you know, the government fiscal year ends September thirtieth, and, you know, we had a tough comparable from the year before, but we just have some, a couple of pockets that were soft, but they were by territories and not really by part, product categories. So 2 things we kind of measure, Vince, and that is, you know, what does our quote volume look like? Because we can, you know, track over the years what the quote to order turn into. We had some of it push into Q4.

You know, I can just tell you, Q4 looks good from some of the vendors that we've signed and the ones we're going besides the DataSolutions that we're integrating those teams, both mostly on a sales and marketing standpoint. But we haven't noticed then, you know, we're looking at the amount of pipeline, like, I think it's one of our biggest quarters of evaluating new vendors that are coming at us. At 29, it's a big number, and signing 3 of them, we still have 3 in the pipe that we're not able to launch yet, just due to timing of that many vendors coming at us. And I think the last thing I'll mention is, you know, we talk about signing some of these vendors and trying to keep a limited line card.

What we don't really, you know, talk about publicly is that we push vendors that are not performing or performing at a more of a flat level. They go to our division called Climb Elevate, and they get transacted, but they don't get access to our sales and marketing teams like a vendor in our core portfolio. So we still transact. When they're ready to really put money into the market or hire team members that are going to cover territories, then we can bring them back into the fold. But other than that, they stay into you know, our Climb Elevate team.

Vince Colicchio
Managing Director and Senior Equity Analyst, Barrington Research

Did your top 20 vendors perform in line with the rest of the business?

Dale Foster
CEO, Climb Global Solutions

They did, you know, across the board, you know, those are the ones that are driving that. And same with our customers. We had some of our larger customers, a little flat in the quarter as well. And we had some stuff on our Spinnaker side we can talk about, you know, that got pushed into Q4, that we already have those orders in. We just didn't get them in the last week of September.

Vince Colicchio
Managing Director and Senior Equity Analyst, Barrington Research

And then, on DataSolutions, any help on what type of, revenue contribution you expect in Q4 and maybe, 2024?

Dale Foster
CEO, Climb Global Solutions

Sure. Yeah, we're at this point, we're not going to share that information, Vince, but we'll, we'll try and provide some info as we get into the Q4 earnings call.

Vince Colicchio
Managing Director and Senior Equity Analyst, Barrington Research

Okay, the organic growth for the quarter, I assume very little came from your Spinnaker acquisition. Is that correct?

Dale Foster
CEO, Climb Global Solutions

Correct, yeah. The Spinnaker contributed very little in the prior year quarter. We acquired them in August and had a very minor contribution in this quarter.

Vince Colicchio
Managing Director and Senior Equity Analyst, Barrington Research

Okay. I'll go back to the queue. Thank you.

Dale Foster
CEO, Climb Global Solutions

Thanks, Vince.

Operator

Thank you. Please stand by for our next question. Our next question comes from Howard Root, an individual investor. Please go ahead.

Howard Root
Individual Investor, Private Investor

Good morning, Dale and Drew. Congratulations on another solid quarter. Can you hear me okay?

Dale Foster
CEO, Climb Global Solutions

Sure can. Thanks, Howard.

Howard Root
Individual Investor, Private Investor

Sure. If I could ask just a couple of questions on the DataSolutions acquisition, just to get a little bit more kind of detail on the numbers. So as I see it, you know, you paid around a little over $16 million for it, and then there's a post-closing earn-out. And without giving the amount, is that like, you know, a 10% potential, or is that more substantial of a potential earn-out amount for that acquisition?

Dale Foster
CEO, Climb Global Solutions

Yeah, the earn-out has a range, Howard, that would be 85% to 115% of the EBITDA number. So, it's gonna be probably in terms of the consideration that we've disclosed in the filings, it's gonna be about 15%-20%.

Howard Root
Individual Investor, Private Investor

Okay. So, and with EBITDA, $3.3 million in the fiscal year, March 31 for that, you're, you're paying around 5x EBITDA. Is that kind of the way you look at acquisitions going forward? Is that a kind of normal pricing for you?

Dale Foster
CEO, Climb Global Solutions

We were fortunate to get a little bit of a discount on the EBITDA multiple, but as we said before, over in Europe, the transactions will probably have a slight premium due to the fact that, as Dale likes to say, you know, the Germans are different to buy from the French. So, you know, we would expect that multiple to be slightly higher than that on a go-forward basis in Western Europe, but we thought it was a fair transaction for both ourselves and us. And now, just to get a little more detail. So, you know, when we look at the acquisitions, we look at where we're trading at, and that's typical for North America, and we might look a bit more.

We also look at the concentration, you know, if there's a discount because of the concentration of vendors or customers, and then also we look at their margin profile. There's a lot of things that go into it. This one came out from a company that was running the book on, and they were basically pushed out to multiple distributors that were looking at them as they're being attractive, not only for the Irish market, but for some of their vendors. And the one that jumps out of the page, that it should jump out as a, you know, almost a tier 1 vendor was Citrix. And Citrix and Microsoft go very well, and that's one of the ones we have as a distributor in the U.K., that we want to bolster to go to the ... customer base.

With their 2 companies combined, we can do that in an effective way and, you know, just be efficient delivering those product categories.

Howard Root
Individual Investor, Private Investor

... And then just kind of a final one on that. And so, can you give us kind of a perspective on, you know, their Q3, not looking forward, but for DataSolutions Q3, as what the, the amount, the Adjusted Gross Billings or net revenue? I realize you didn't have any of that in for your number, but if they'd been added in, is that a $10 million increase in Q3? Is that a $5 million increase in Q3 in Adjusted Gross Billings, if you had them in your fold for that quarter?

Drew Clark
CFO, Climb Global Solutions

Yeah. So there's a little bit of cyclicality to their business. If you looked at, again, as we've said in Q4, Howard, they will be accretive, obviously, at the top line. They'll be accretive in terms of EBITDA, and they'll be accretive for us in terms of an EPS calculation. I don't have the exact numbers in front of me and wouldn't want to necessarily talk about those at the moment, but it's gonna be a very, very good transaction for us, ultimately.

Dale Foster
CEO, Climb Global Solutions

But I think that's a fair number, Howard, them being, you know, over $130 million in Adjusted Gross Billings, not on net sales, because we'll have to go through all the netting process.

Drew Clark
CFO, Climb Global Solutions

Right.

Dale Foster
CEO, Climb Global Solutions

But, you know, bringing around $10 million a month, but then they have some cyclicality. But, you know, they also have some, the core business, with some of their top vendors. And, you know, we, we talked about it in some of the early releases, that they, you know, started in the Irish market, very strong there. You know, when we were presenting this to the board for approval, you look at the vendors that they have and the percentage of, of market share and wallet that they have for the Irish side, is in the 90 percentile. But and then they moved, you know, in the last 3 and a 1/2 years to the U.K., and they're quickly gaining market share there.

So where they go, they tend to be, you know, one of the leaders in that space of their product mix.

Howard Root
Individual Investor, Private Investor

do you see that having legs outside of the UK, or is that kind of where it stops for-

Dale Foster
CEO, Climb Global Solutions

You know, of course, you know, we take a look at their top 5 brands, we take a look at their contracts and say, "Okay, can we expand this contract into the rest of Western Europe?" And we found some really unique things in the company, and that is, they already, since they're an EU country, it's easy to ship into the other 28 EU states, so it makes it easy for us after the Brexit, you know, happened. So that, that's potential in some of their contracts, but we've already looked and added them to some of our existing contracts for our vendors that we had in common, like, I think it was Cato and Orca. But yeah, we'll to do that.

If we were able to expand, you know, and this is some of our first conversations, Citrix to other places, I think that would be a big win for us on top of, you know, just the team we acquired.

Howard Root
Individual Investor, Private Investor

Yeah. Dare I say, huge win for you.

Dale Foster
CEO, Climb Global Solutions

Yeah.

Howard Root
Individual Investor, Private Investor

So my second question, general area, is on, I'm looking at the Q4, which, you know, last year you just knocked the cover off the ball with your Adjusted Gross Billings, about $320 million, which is a big step up, obviously, from Q3, and it's obviously seasonally your strongest quarter. But, you know, you have words in the press release about broader challenges in the macro environment and, you know, there's other issues, global uncertainty, that kind of thing. But in terms of, of, you know, posting a number above that, kind of, with, with the DataSolutions, maybe adding $30 million or so in Adjusted Gross Billings, are you confident in, in exceeding last year's, you know, exceptionally strong number in Q4 for your Adjusted Gross Billings?

Dale Foster
CEO, Climb Global Solutions

You're talking to a sales marketing guy, so yeah, I'm very confident, Howard, in what the team is performing. We already have, you know, October numbers as Drew and his team put out a flash report. So we're on track. That's our goal, to do that. I don't see. You know, yeah, there could be some obstacles as far as getting stuff in, you know, the last couple of days, because a lot of—you know, everybody waits, and, you know, we just—the vendors wait to push these things in. Like I said, we track our quote volume, so we can know if there's going to be a dip coming in, because we know how many quotes it takes to get 1 order, depending on certain manufacturers, we track that data.

But well, I, I'm comfortable that we'll be on target for, you know, Q4.

Howard Root
Individual Investor, Private Investor

Great. Great. Well, congrats again on another solid quarter. Love the continued focus on performance and execution. Thanks.

Dale Foster
CEO, Climb Global Solutions

Got it. Thanks, Howard.

Drew Clark
CFO, Climb Global Solutions

Hey, operator, excuse me, can you hear us okay?

Operator

Yes, you're coming clear on my side. I know a few people are working on the back end for some of our listeners. Please stand by for our next question. Our next question comes from Bill Dezellem with Titan Capital Management. Please go ahead.

Bill Dezellem
Founder, President, and CIO, Tieton Capital Management

Yeah, thank you. I'll just say, Drew, in relation to your last question, as you were answering the prior questioner's question, there was a lot of garble that came through then and was not only difficult to decipher, but like indecipherable on this side. Relative to my question, the early pay discounts, I am surprised with higher interest rates that your customers are doing additional early pay discounts or more early pay discounts this year than they did last year. So have you raised your incentive for the early pay discounts, or what's the dynamic behind the scenes there, please?

Drew Clark
CFO, Climb Global Solutions

Sure. Bill, can you hear me?

Bill Dezellem
Founder, President, and CIO, Tieton Capital Management

Yes.

Drew Clark
CFO, Climb Global Solutions

Okay. So the dynamic is, we have one of our large DMRs that historically was very inconsistent. They're not publicly traded, they're private, and they brought on a new CFO about a year and a half ago, who's reorganizing his team. They're focused on a number of different initiatives, and for whatever motivation, they are now adhering to the timeframe on early pay discount. Don't have a real understanding as to why, but we just know that that's been a mandate from him to his team to not forego the early pay discount. So I don't know, again, what their balance sheet, their financing terms look like, but they're taking full advantage of it now. They were probably taking early pay maybe 30%-40% of the time. It was very inconsistent.

We didn't have any, you know, rhyme or reason, but they're now taking it.

Bill Dezellem
Founder, President, and CIO, Tieton Capital Management

So in terms of assuming that that behavior continues over the course of the next, of the next, 12 months, then we won't have the same increase, at least from them in Early Pay Discounts, and the comparables will be a bit more even. Is that kinda how you are looking at it?

Drew Clark
CFO, Climb Global Solutions

Correct. As we've stated, we, you know, we were very positive on the fact that we were able to maintain gross profit as a percentage of Adjusted Gross Billings at a consistent level, despite the increased level of early pay taken by a couple of our key DMRs.

Bill Dezellem
Founder, President, and CIO, Tieton Capital Management

Great. Thank you, and congratulations getting money in the door early.

Drew Clark
CFO, Climb Global Solutions

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Please stand by for our next question. As a reminder, to ask a question, please press * 1 on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. Our next question is from Bob Sales with LMK Capital Management. Please go ahead.

Bob Sales
Founder, Managing Director, and Member, LMK Capital Management

Hi, 2 questions. And you really—for from my connection, you really broke up as you were walking through the dynamics of the quarter with respect to the end of the quarter in macro. So my question is this: Can you just talk a little bit about the organic growth one more time? And just, for those of us that didn't hear, what you saw and the dynamic as it played out and the resultant 7% growth in Adjusted Gross Billings?

Drew Clark
CFO, Climb Global Solutions

So yeah, the dynamic, Bob, if you didn't hear it before, yeah, we had a nice mid-single-digit growth in Adjusted Gross Billings. Despite quote-unquote "headwinds" that, you know, many of our larger distributors experienced over the past several quarters, predominantly due to hardware. You know, our outlook remains, as Dale mentioned earlier, fairly confident in the fact that we'll kind of meet and be at the previous quarter, Q4 results from 2022, at least at the top line. Obviously, gross profit is gonna be impacted by what we expect, the continued Early Pay Discount taken by several DMRs. And again, we're confident that we can continue to execute and deliver on the long term. Will we have some economic headwinds maybe that get into the data center security space and trickle down from hardware?

We're not seeing a lot of that, but we're starting to see a little bit, right? Slowly but surely, some opportunities are getting pushed to the next quarter, but we're still pretty bullish on the fact that we'll continue to execute the game plan that we've had over the past 10 quarters.

Dale Foster
CEO, Climb Global Solutions

And Bob, you know, we track, you know, we have quite a few customers that we sell to that are public, and they've already put their earnings releases out, like, CDW. They have a bigger hardware component. You know, some of the times, you know, when we went through the last couple of years, the hardware piece of a data center and everybody moving to a remote play, so there's a lot of sales on the hardware side of things. What we say is, you know, we're still 90% software, so we see, you know, a different product mix quarter by quarter, depending on the ebb and flow.

You know, one thing, you know, that we always count on is that we're having so many different vendors coming at us from a security standpoint, and we already have a lot of vendors on our security portfolio, so that continues to be strong, and everybody's doing security in a little different way. With the acquisition of DataSolutions, it comes with them a strong CTO that's gonna help us really kick off a division that's gonna really focus on AI products. Most of our vendors are talking about already or already have some kind of machine learning built into their products, but then now they're starting in the marketing side to push that element or that potential in their products.

So, just a lot of good things in, you know, the software, IT, security data center space, and that's our 2 top categories.

Bob Sales
Founder, Managing Director, and Member, LMK Capital Management

Great. Thank you. And then my second question is on the DataSolutions acquisition. It looks, well, it looks like a home run in terms of creation. I wanted to understand the tax situation, given that it's a I assume Irish-domiciled company, and whether that presents any of the advantages there because of the Irish standing.

Dale Foster
CEO, Climb Global Solutions

Yeah, we looked at... You know, we're looking at that right now, and we'll, you know, we did have an entity when we acquired CDF that had, because they were getting ready for a potential Brexit, you know, 3 years ago. So, yeah, we'll look at that. We'll look at, you know, where we can deal with the tax savings. The Irish tax on businesses is 12.5%, I believe. So, yeah, we're continuing to look at that, where orders actually start from, where they get transacted, and where we can take advantage of that, you know, into the rest of the EU countries, and then, you know, back to the U.K. team.

Bob Sales
Founder, Managing Director, and Member, LMK Capital Management

Great. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. At this time, I'm showing no further questions. I would like to turn it back to Dale Foster for closing remarks.

Dale Foster
CEO, Climb Global Solutions

Thank you, operator, and, you know, thanks, everyone, for joining today. Again, want to welcome our DataSolutions team. We've had the luxury of spending some time in Dublin over the last 6 months with the teams. Our teams are getting integrated. Some of our sales and marketing team were in the U.K. over the last couple of days, getting things kicked off, and we'll really start talking as a, as a combined team going into 2024. Thank you for your support of the shareholders, and, we look to have a strong 2023. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you for your participation in today's conference. This does conclude the program. You may now disconnect.

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