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Citi’s 2026 Global Consumer & Retail Conference 2026

Mar 9, 2026

Filippo Falorni
Director of US Beverages, Household Products, and Personal Care Lead Analyst, Citi

All right. Thank you for joining us at the Citi Global Consumer & Retail Conference. We are here with The Clorox Company. Filippo, you can take it over. Great. Good morning, everyone. I'm Filippo Falorni, Citi's Beverages, Household Product and Personal Care Analyst, and we're very happy to welcome The Clorox Company here. We have Luc Bellet, Clorox Executive Vice President and CFO. Luc, thanks so much for coming.

Luc Bellet
EVP and CFO, The Clorox Company

Yeah. Thank you, Filippo. Good morning, everyone. Maybe let's just me, you know, start by taking a few moments to maybe frame where we at in our transformations and how we've been navigating the current environment. I would say probably three key messages, you know, for you. First, we started the fiscal year knowing that, you know, the front half was gonna be challenging. This was, you know, driven by the environment, also driven by the fact that, you know, we were implementing our ERP and expected some temporary negative impact. Now, the second quarter came generally in line with expectations. The good news is now the ERP implementation is behind us with cost complexity ramping down and then the benefit ramping up.

Second message is, we have strong plans for the back half of the year. We expect to sequentially improve organic sales growth, and we're really focused on execution right now. This is really supported by a more stable supply now that we passed the ERP implementation, but also supported by the strong slate of innovation and demand creation plan. Third, looking ahead, we feel like we now have a stronger foundation that positions us well for the future. If we look at our innovation pipeline, our margin management pipeline, you know, for the upcoming years, they're quite strong. We also now have put in place a solid digital foundation that's going to enable us to modernize capabilities, strengthen our brand, and reinforce our competitive advantage for years to come.

Finally, with the GOJO acquisitions, we are expanding our leadership in health and hygiene and adding a business that should structurally improve our growth and financial performance. Net, still, more work to do, but we're relatively optimistic about the future.

Filippo Falorni
Director of US Beverages, Household Products, and Personal Care Lead Analyst, Citi

Great. That's a good intro. Maybe starting with your first point, right, of improving top line growth in the second half of the year and starting with the categories. Obviously, you said your category was approximately flat in the first half of the year, but you saw a little bit of an improvement in January. Can you help us give an update on, like, what you see at a consumer level, category growth expectation for the back half, within your expectation of improving top line?

Luc Bellet
EVP and CFO, The Clorox Company

Sure. For context, we, our outlook for the full year assume that categories will be about on U.S. retail category, on average, flat to 1%. That is below our historical average of 2%-2.5%. We also assume that there will be some volatility any given month and any given week. In the front half, we, like you said, our category average about on the low end of that range, about, you know, we're flat. For the back half, we assume that they would continue to be flat to 1%. In the current quarter, we certainly saw volatility week by weeks.

I think you were referring to earnings call, where at the end of January, we saw double-digit increase as people were loading their pantry ahead of the storm. That was followed up by double-digit decline in early February and bounced it back after that. If I look at quarter to date, categories probably average about 1% on the higher end of that range. We expect that for the remaining of the fiscal year, we would continue to oscillate between flat and 1%.

Filippo Falorni
Director of US Beverages, Household Products, and Personal Care Lead Analyst, Citi

Great. Then, to your point, like that's below historical growth rates for your categories. As you look a little bit ahead, like in the next couple of years, what do you think you would need to see categories normalize more towards like 2.5%? Especially given the promotional environment as being a little bit more elevated in the U.S., do you need that to kind of like return to more lower levels to see the categories get back to like more the historical kind of like 2.5%?

Luc Bellet
EVP and CFO, The Clorox Company

I guess the short answer is we, you know, we're confident that, you know, the categories will normalize back to 2.5%. Given the current environment, it's hard to predict when that might happen. Again, what we're currently seeing is essentially category being compressed mainly due to value-seeking behavior, right? Consumers stretch their usage. They, you know, they adjust their, the pack sizing as well as shift, you know, channels. That's putting a little pressure on the categories. That's actually fairly consistent with what we've seen in the past when consumer was under stressed. Then we saw that, you know, bounce back. What gives us confidence is we're not seeing any structural changes.

those are everyday essential categories, and if you look at the share of wallets, spent on those categories, it's been remarkably consistent over a long period of time and in recent years. We're not seeing any structural change in at-home behavior, and we're also not seeing any significant trade-down to private label. Hard to predict when it will now normalize. In the meantime, we're focusing on what we can control. As you know, market leaders, we have a, you know, it is our responsibility also to drive that recovery. This is what we're doing in the back half with a strong slate of innovation as well as RGM activities.

Then the last thing I would say, the Gojo acquisitions, you know, we'll add a business that have categories that are growing, you know, probably closer to mid-single digits ahead of that, you know, that average, and that should also help enhance our ability to increase growth.

Filippo Falorni
Director of US Beverages, Household Products, and Personal Care Lead Analyst, Citi

Great. Zooming in maybe in some of the categories and your actions, to your point, to improve market share, maybe starting with litter. You mentioned some of the changes in price pack architecture that you're implementing. How do you expect that to impact both volume and price mix, and, like, do you think you can get back to better market share performance in litter?

Luc Bellet
EVP and CFO, The Clorox Company

Yes. Well, on litter, maybe let me first acknowledge that this is a place where we've not been happy with our performance. In litter we've been plagued by a series of supply issues over the past few years, and we've been able to recover on each one of those issues, but we've fell behind from a value proposition and from a market share standpoint. The other thing about litter, this is a category that has strong tailwinds driven by cat adoptions and, you know, and also, the fact that people are spending more and more money on their pets. We haven't been able to fully take advantage of those tailwinds, and this is something that we, you know, we are addressing. The way we're addressing it is through a full relaunch of our litter.

Sorry, a full relaunch of our litter, businesses. That includes change in formulations with better odor control and dusting. That includes new packaging and new claims. That also include, we design a new and improved e-com and mobile experience, and that also includes some price pack architectures where we're getting sharper on a two-tier approach to the lineup. The one thing I would mention is this relaunch is really just the first step in regaining a competitive positioning. We have a strong innovation pipeline in the upcoming years. From a price pack architecture, in the long term, we really wanna drive sustained volume-driven growth. In the near term, some of the activities we've taken will either be positive or negative from a price mix.

I look at the net, most likely volume might grow slightly ahead of organic sales growth for the time being.

Filippo Falorni
Director of US Beverages, Household Products, and Personal Care Lead Analyst, Citi

Another category that you're trying to improve performance as well is trash bags. Obviously there's been a lot of promotional environment, an increased promotional environment in the category. Like, what are the main plans there in terms of improving both category growth and market share performance in trash bags?

Luc Bellet
EVP and CFO, The Clorox Company

Yeah. In trash bag, I would say competitive activity and promotional level have been elevated, but as expected. We've been very disciplined and mainly leveraging RGM as well as innovation to address the heightened competitive activity. RGM has been allowing us to be very granular and much more real time in addressing price gap, and we've been able to adjust, make surgical adjustments to specific SKUs at specific retailers, and that's been actually really improving market share. Of course, innovation is the only way to drive profitable category growth. We have a new line extension on a ForceFlex platform that's called LeakGuard that basically leverage a super absorbent polymer at the bottom of the bag to absorb any liquid and prevent leaks, which has been a major dissatisfier in the categories.

Looking at, you know, the sum of those actions, we're seeing good momentum in trash. We've been improving, you know, share and consumption consistently over the past couple of quarters. Private label was about flat in share last quarter. While we have a little bit more work to do, we feel good about the momentum and the plans going forward.

Filippo Falorni
Director of US Beverages, Household Products, and Personal Care Lead Analyst, Citi

On the cleaning business, that's been, like, probably the best area of strength from your portfolio. You talked about obviously the new Clorox PURE innovation. Like, how significant do you see this innovation and just in general, like, about expanding categories into adjacencies, right? That's something that both you and Linda mentioned recently. Is this the first step? Could we see more after the Clorox PURE? Like, what are the opportunities there?

Luc Bellet
EVP and CFO, The Clorox Company

Yeah. I would say we're really excited by the Clorox PURE launch. you know, it really represent a meaningful platform opportunity for years to come. For perspective, this is a really large category that's growing really rapidly. There is about 100 million people in the U.S. that suffer from allergies, and there's a significant unmet need. Most people report still allergies returning despite cleaning, despite medication. Right now, the current allergies remedy category is about $4 billion and again, you know, growing rapidly. We feel like we have a right to play and a right to win in these categories.

We have a breakthrough patent-pending technology that enables us to destroy the protein, the allergen protein, before it can impact people and also is safe around, you know, kids and pets. We actually have significant retailer support. They see the same unmet need, and they've been engaging with us, you know, very early, and we also have a very strong marketing and influencing campaigns, generally spending about twice as much as we would do normally on this type of launch. What's important, it's really just a multi-year innovations. We have already a strong pipeline, and we already start selling the next round of innovations to retailers. Net, we're excited, and we think this is, you know, a great opportunity for years to come.

Filippo Falorni
Director of US Beverages, Household Products, and Personal Care Lead Analyst, Citi

Great. I guess on the innovation point that you just mentioned, how impactful is the innovation in the back half of the year? Are you seeing shelf space gains at retail? Can you help us understand, like, how much visibility you have in that improvement as we think about your back half of the year?

Luc Bellet
EVP and CFO, The Clorox Company

Yeah. We, you know, what we saw to date is all the distribution gain associated with it, and they're generally in line with our expectations. We'll see most of the benefit probably towards the fourth quarter, 'cause as you know, most of the shelf resets sort of tend to happen in the spring. We need, you know, a few months to just really see how the innovation is tracking in terms of both trial but also repeat.

Filippo Falorni
Director of US Beverages, Household Products, and Personal Care Lead Analyst, Citi

Got it. Then on just your point earlier on price mix and volume for liter, can you help us understand at the total company level how you see also the back half shaping up in terms of composition of volume and price mix?

Luc Bellet
EVP and CFO, The Clorox Company

Yeah. From a price mix standpoint, first thing to mention is there's still a lot of noise as you look at, you know, reported financials driven by the ERP transition. If I exclude this, generally we would expect organic volume to grow roughly in line with organic sales for the full year. Probably net maybe 1 point of negative mix for the full year. You know, that might vary from quarters to quarters, driven by the seasonality of some merch events as well as innovations. For perspective, the second quarter was about flat, we, you know, we'll probably see some, a little bit of movement around that. For the year, expect about 1 point of headwind from a price mix. Mostly, the way to think about it, this is mostly driven by value-seeking behaviors, right?

People shifting size, channels, and offset by RGM activities and the benefit of innovation.

Filippo Falorni
Director of US Beverages, Household Products, and Personal Care Lead Analyst, Citi

On the ERP front, obviously it was a big undertaking from your part. You're largely behind it now. Obviously, you have to cycle in Q4 the shipments from last year. As we think ahead of fiscal 2027, can you help us understand the pieces that you will be cycling from both top line and EPS? Obviously, you had $0.90 of negative impact to the EPS line. How should we think about, like, the base of which to grow into 2027, both on top line and EPS?

Luc Bellet
EVP and CFO, The Clorox Company

Yeah. The ERP, as I mentioned, the ERP created some noise. For context, we launched a new ERP in the U.S. at the beginning of the fiscal year. As we went with the implementations, we basically had to turn off the old system and, you know, waited a week to transfer all the data and then turn on the new system. When you're turning it on, it takes a little bit of time to ramp up shipments. What we did is essentially ship two weeks of inventory ahead of that implementation and shifted 2 weeks from fiscal year 2026 into fiscal year 2025, and those two weeks represent about 3.5% of sales. On a year-over-year basis, since I have overstated fiscal year 2025 and understated 2026, I have about 7% of headwind.

Now, it's only temporary noise, and that will actually reverse next year. What that means from an EPS standpoint is next year we will step up the fiscal year 2026 bases to get to fiscal year 2027 by $0.90. We will also see about 3.5% of sales.

Filippo Falorni
Director of US Beverages, Household Products, and Personal Care Lead Analyst, Citi

Great. Maybe shift into margins. Obviously there's a lot of question more recently with the spike in oil prices, plus the conflict in the Middle East. Can you give us any perspective of the potential implications on the resin side, which usually takes there's a little bit of a gap, and then on the transportation and freight side as you think about it? I know it's very recent, but, like, any thoughts there?

Luc Bellet
EVP and CFO, The Clorox Company

As you mentioned, very recent and still very much developing, and very dynamic. We, you know, we're working on, you know, on many different scenarios right now. It's a little early to tell what might be the impact, but some, you know, certainly we'll have better perspective at the end of the quarter when we release results. A few things to think about, for sure the duration of the conflict, you know, is definitely a main driver here. We would expect, you know, headwinds from a, you know, from a cost standpoint, mainly energy, you know, driven, energy commodities driven.

As you mentioned, it takes a little bit of time, you know, to show up just because we, you know, transfer price, you know, may have a month or two lag, and then we also have some inventory. We don't expect, you know, that it will impact our third quarter, but it, you know, it could impact our fourth quarter and beyond, depending on what's happening. We'll have to see in logistic. You know, generally in the past, what we, you know, what we've seen is like when you have disruptions globally, it tends to impact your, you know, logistic network, and there's a lot of externalities. We're looking into this stuff. Beyond the cost, we're also staying close to what might be an impact on demand. And again, too early to tell.

The last thing I would say is, we do have operations in the Middle East. About 2% of our sales are in the areas. So far we haven't seen major disruptions, but that's, you know, another area that we're monitoring closely. Again, developing and dynamic, we'll stay close to it, but right now it's too early to tell what might be the impact.

Filippo Falorni
Director of US Beverages, Household Products, and Personal Care Lead Analyst, Citi

Right. Thinking about the other drivers of potential margin and offsets to these pressures, obviously you have the Glad JV benefit starting to flow through in the second half of the year. Any other big, like, levers that All in terms of, like, trying to offset any cost pressure that might materialize, especially at the gross margin level.

Luc Bellet
EVP and CFO, The Clorox Company

Yeah. I think a few things. First, if we step back, in general, we feel really good about our ability to expand margin over time. I think we're, you know, as you know, in fiscal 2022, we lost about eight point of gross margin at the height of the inflationary cycle, and we've been able to fully rebuild gross margin to pre-pandemic level. That's really a testament to, kind of our new approach on margin management, which, you know, has been, you know, the evolution of an old, cost savings program that were in place for decades, and that we're now adding new capabilities like Design to Value, RGMs. We brought a lot of new experts and talent, you know, and teams, as well as now leveraging our digital, the digital foundation that we put in place.

That's the good news. We've been delivering record level cost savings, and we feel really good about the pipeline going forward. Specifically to this fiscal year, if I exclude the noise of the ERP, we're essentially looking at gross margin to be declining in the front half and then expanding in the back half. When you compare the front half and the back half, there's a few things to consider. First, in the front half, I had to incur additional expenses, more than expected, to deal with the stabilization of the ERP and optimizing, you know, services. Those costs will start coming down in the back half. Then, we also had a little less cost savings in the front half than the back half.

Some of it is just regular timing of project, the other is the fact that I had to use more resources on the stabilization of ERP and delay some of the cost savings projects. That's between the front half and the back half. Then in the back half, I have a little bit of phasing between the third quarter and the fourth quarter. First, some of those additional expenses associated with the ERP will, you know, still continue in Q3, then probably go away in Q4. Then I have, like, a little bit of timings between one time and manufacturing expenses that bring Q3 down and bring Q4 up.

Net right now, we feel confident in our ability to expand gross margin in the back half, but we'll probably see most of that in the fourth quarter.

Filippo Falorni
Director of US Beverages, Household Products, and Personal Care Lead Analyst, Citi

On that point, on the fourth quarter, you obviously also have, like, the reversal of the cycling of last year ERP shipments. Like, how should we think about that impact on your gross margin bridge? Because obviously it was a benefit in the fourth quarter of last year.

Luc Bellet
EVP and CFO, The Clorox Company

That's right. I think the easiest way to think about it is when you look at an absolute gross margin standpoint, there's no implication. The only implication is that last year was slightly overstated. It, you know, it will have an impact of over 100 basis points when you look at a year-over-year comparison.

Filippo Falorni
Director of US Beverages, Household Products, and Personal Care Lead Analyst, Citi

Makes sense. I guess, thinking about below the gross margin line, there's still an opportunity on SG&A, given your medium-term target there. Can you help us understand what are the drivers there? Like obviously, you've made a big investment in digital transformation, and this is like the last big year of spending. Should we start seeing some ROI into fiscal 2027? What are the areas where you're expecting to see some benefit?

Luc Bellet
EVP and CFO, The Clorox Company

Yeah. We feel good about our ability to drive productivity in SG&A over the next few years, probably starting 2027 and in 2028. There's a few things. First, with the investment we made in the ERP in digital transformation, we expect to see a lot of automation, which will drive productivity. In addition, we're gonna be able to expand our global business services capability. In the past, it was hard to do so with really outdated infrastructure, now that we have a modern standard global data infrastructure, we can do more of that. Just there you know, we see millions of productivities over the next few years. Those are the main drivers.

Filippo Falorni
Director of US Beverages, Household Products, and Personal Care Lead Analyst, Citi

Great. I guess on that point, like on the long-term outlook, we get a lot of question obviously, like the return, right? To like organic sales, 3%-5%, operating margin, 25-50 basis points. I guess what are the key points that you need to get more consistently there, on a sustainable basis from a category standpoint, from a market share, and in terms of like some of the drivers that we discussed on the margin front?

Luc Bellet
EVP and CFO, The Clorox Company

Yeah. I would say on the growth side, you know, our algorithms just assume that category, you know, our U.S. retail category normalize to 2% to 2.5% per year. We just talked about it. It's, you know, we feel confident that they will do so. It's hard to predict when. Right now we're really focusing on what we can control, and I think the back half is a good example of that, where there are strong slate of innovations, strong, you know, demand creation plan and also RGM initiatives. We're seeing sequential improvement, you know, in the back half, and that means that we're gonna exit with stronger fundamental and better momentum than where we started.

We actually feel that, you know, we're well positioned to continue accelerate, you know, growth, you know, beyond the back half. I'd mentioned earlier we feel really good about our innovation pipeline for the years to comes, and we're just starting now to scale new capabilities like RGMs. Beyond that, we continue to see international and professional businesses being outsized growth contributors. Over time, as I, as I mentioned, the acquisition of GOJO is also gonna structurally accelerate the growth of companies. So that's on the growth side. I think, Feeling relatively optimistic in improving and accelerating growth going forward. Margin, I just mentioned it, you know, it will depend, some of it will depend on the cost, you know, environment, of course.

On what we can control, we feel like we have a very strong pipeline of margin improvements. Some of it is, you know, is driven by our current efforts, and that includes, you know, a lot of potential saving in procurement, logistics and supply chain. Of course, now that we, you know, we're past the ERP implementations, we also see a new source of productivity, you know, coming from the ERP, and that impacts supply chain and manufacturing logistics, but also impacts our working capital and inventory. That, you know, that really strengthen the pipelines for years to come.

Filippo Falorni
Director of US Beverages, Household Products, and Personal Care Lead Analyst, Citi

Great. Maybe talking about the Gojo acquisition that you mentioned a few times. Obviously, the Purell brand, great brand, very well established. Solid growth, right? Mid-single digit growth, you mentioned. Maybe first, what got you excited about this brand? Where do you see the biggest opportunity? And I think on the call, the last call, you mentioned the opportunity to accelerate growth maybe to more mid-to-high single digits. Where are those opportunities to get the brand to further accelerate?

Luc Bellet
EVP and CFO, The Clorox Company

Good. Yeah. Very excited about the GOJO acquisitions. Again, that it really allows us to expand our leadership in health and hygiene, and I think will help accelerate both the growth and financial performance of the company. Maybe I'll mention two things. First is the GOJO acquisitions represent an investment in leaning into a place of strength. Our health and wellness segment is our largest segment. It's been the fastest-growing and, you know, growing about 4% gig over about past 10 years, and it's also the most profitable. Then if you really look at the Purell brand, it really, you know, mimic a lot of what we're seeing in the Clorox brand in many different ways. It's ubiquitous, it's highly trusted, and science and innovation driven.

The other thing is we see this acquisition as a strong strategic and cultural fit. You know, whether you look, you know, purpose, values, the companies are very well aligned, and then the business are complementary. You know, the Clorox business is mostly focused on surface cleaning and 80% in retail, 20% professional. The Purell business is, you know, mostly focused on skin, you know, skin hygiene, and it's 80% B2B and 20% retail. When you look at the combined business, we think that we have a lot of scale and ability to activate growth. That's the first thing. Now, the GOJO business you mentioned itself, you know, represented a strong growth opportunity for us.

First, you know, it's actually participating in categories with, you know, strong tailwinds, both in B2B and in retail. We see opportunities to further accelerate this. It represents about $800 million business that's been growing mid-single digit, as you mentioned, and really driven by, you know, category tailwinds. On B2B, we see opportunity to accelerate this through cross-sellings. Both businesses have strong presence and positions in the professional business, in different verticals. You know, one business might be, you know, stronger in healthcare, another business, you know, might be stronger in schools and offices, you know, verticals. That's very complementary. When you actually combine the businesses, you're able to bundle a larger offering and then cross-sells, you know, to those different verticals, reducing complexity, you know, for the end users and the distributors.

Just since the announcement, we actually heard a lot of excitement and interest from, you know, from our partners, which kind of validates that. Now, we still need to close before we act on this. On the retail side, we also see opportunities to accelerate growth. The Purell brand is in, you know, extraordinary brands with tremendous amount of awareness and trust. The reality is, there hasn't been a lot of investment in retail activations, in brand buildings and innovation on the retail side. We feel like, you know, leveraging Clorox consumer insight, brand building, innovation engine and commercialization capabilities should enable us to accelerate, you know, business. Net, we feel good about the growth prospect of the business.

Filippo Falorni
Director of US Beverages, Household Products, and Personal Care Lead Analyst, Citi

Great. Yeah, maybe on that point on the retail opportunity, brand is, has been around for a while, like, distribution is already pretty elevated. To your point, there is an opportunity to innovate the brand, and we've seen premiumization.

Luc Bellet
EVP and CFO, The Clorox Company

Mm-hmm

Filippo Falorni
Director of US Beverages, Household Products, and Personal Care Lead Analyst, Citi

... especially, you know, in the hand sanitizer with a lot of different other brands that have innovated more at the premium point. How do you see the strategy there? Like, do you see an opportunity to elevate the price point or to have different price proposition within PURELL? Like, help us understand like the retail opportunity.

Luc Bellet
EVP and CFO, The Clorox Company

I mean, I think there's a few, first, you know, pretty basic things. There's very little merchandising happening on this brand just because they don't have the scale. If you think about, you know, the integrated and pretty large effort we have around cold and flu merchandising, as an example, we can just, you know, take advantage of that by, you know, joining Purell with Clorox. Those are pretty basic things, but, you know, they're significant. Of course, you just mentioned it, there's an element of brand building and there's an element of innovation. Innovation is really about, you know, increasing, you know, increasing form, increasing usage. As you mentioned, there's a lot of new consumers with new needs coming in these segments, as well as potential expansion into adjacencies.

You know, too early to go into details, but, you know, we do see a lot of upside there.

Filippo Falorni
Director of US Beverages, Household Products, and Personal Care Lead Analyst, Citi

Great. On the cost synergy front, you mentioned $50 million in cost synergies, which is probably pretty conservative given the complementarity of the business. You mentioned there could be upside there. Can you walk us through, like, the key buckets of cost synergies and where you could see upside?

Luc Bellet
EVP and CFO, The Clorox Company

Yeah. As you mentioned, the acquisition gains include about $50 million. We think it is, you know, conservative, and we have a high degree confidence that we will achieve those. You know, there could be some upside, especially when you start to leverage our holistic margin management approach. Now, yes, there is a lot of overlap, you know, between the business, and so we see cost synergies across the cost structures. You know, if I look at the $50 million, they'd probably be split evenly between supply chains as well as operating expenses. Now, the one thing I've mentioned on the synergies is from a timing standpoint, we expect most of them to come by year two or three. We, you know, we're being very thoughtful, as you can imagine, on how we integrate.

We have strong governance in place that's, you know, clearly sequenced and well-resourced. We will balance going after synergies while ensuring that we de-risk and manage the integration well.

Filippo Falorni
Director of US Beverages, Household Products, and Personal Care Lead Analyst, Citi

On the revenue synergy side, you mentioned the cross-selling opportunity. That's not part of your official part of the model, but how do you see the opportunity both on the B2B side and the retail side in terms of cross-selling?

Luc Bellet
EVP and CFO, The Clorox Company

Yeah. Cross-selling, I just mentioned, you know, I just mentioned it to you, like, A lot of it has to do on the B2B side and the fact that, you know, we have different relative presence in different vertical is complementary. I think, yeah, essentially by offering a broader end-to-end hygiene solutions, we're able to unlock sales with some end users and distributors that we couldn't before. That's the main one. I would say on the retail side, the example I just gave you around just, you know, using merchandising together across brands is another opportunity in the short terms.

As you mentioned, a lot of those opportunities tend to be upside to our business case, which again you know, give us comfort in the fact that this acquisition should deliver strong returns for the company.

Filippo Falorni
Director of US Beverages, Household Products, and Personal Care Lead Analyst, Citi

Great. Maybe shifting to capital allocation, obviously, debt leverage post-acquisition is gonna increase to a bit over 3.5 x. Just can you give us a sense of, like, your return to, like, your 2.5x ?

Luc Bellet
EVP and CFO, The Clorox Company

Mm-hmm

Filippo Falorni
Director of US Beverages, Household Products, and Personal Care Lead Analyst, Citi

... goal, like, the ability to delever potentially even quicker, and how does that change your medium-term capital allocation?

Luc Bellet
EVP and CFO, The Clorox Company

Sure. I would say, right now, you know, balance sheet discipline and delivering is the top priority from a capital allocation standpoint. As you mentioned it, We expect our debt leverage to temporarily increase to about 3.6x, you know, times by, you know, the end of the fiscal year, driven by, you know, the acquisitions. We think we can bring it down to about 2.5x, which is the high end of our targeted range by the end of calendar year 2027. Part of it is, you know, the fact that we, you know, we're delivering strong free cash flow as a company, but the other part is, so is GOJO.

Filippo Falorni
Director of US Beverages, Household Products, and Personal Care Lead Analyst, Citi

Oh.

Luc Bellet
EVP and CFO, The Clorox Company

You know, we're able to actually leverage those cash flows, you know, to delever. We also anticipate to have some tax benefit as deal with transactions will help us to get there. Now, as we're focusing on delivering, we'll continue to support our dividends. Our commitment there hasn't changed. We have a long track record of increasing dividends for decades, and you could expect this to continue. While we deliver, we will, you know, we will suspend share repurchase until we meet our target leverage.

Filippo Falorni
Director of US Beverages, Household Products, and Personal Care Lead Analyst, Citi

Thinking a bit more medium to longer term on capital allocation, how important is M&A post, after you get back to your, target, leverage ratio, like, going forward in terms of seeing potential deals similar to Gojo going forward?

Luc Bellet
EVP and CFO, The Clorox Company

Yeah. I mean, we have actually While we haven't, you know, transacted in a while, we have been very active, and we've just been very disciplined in trying to find, you know, the right asset, that's a strategic fit, at the right price and generating the right returns. We'll continue to be, you know, active in evaluating opportunities. Until we delever, it's likely that M&A will take a little bit of back seats. Once we meet our, our leverage, you know, leverage targets, you know, we'll definitely intend to be active again.

Filippo Falorni
Director of US Beverages, Household Products, and Personal Care Lead Analyst, Citi

Great. On the, on the divestiture side, you exited the VMS business in 2024. Are there any other parts of the portfolio that you're reviewing for potential, rationalization of portfolio or potential exits, or do you think the portfolio in the current shape is in the right place?

Luc Bellet
EVP and CFO, The Clorox Company

Yeah. I would say as of now, we like our portfolio as it is, and there's really, you know, nothing to share. Having said that, we have been active in doing regular portfolio reviews with our boards to ensure that, you know, long-term value is aligned with shareholder returns. This is what really drove the, this divestiture of Argentina and VMS, as you just mentioned. We were quite pleased with both of those divestitures. We think it really strengthened our portfolio, helped, you know, reduce the volatility and increase both our growth rates as well as our margin. More importantly, or as importantly, I should say, it enabled us to shift time and resource to businesses that had better growth opportunities.

Again, you know, as of now, we like our portfolio as it is, but, you know, we'll continue to evaluate and see if there's any additional opportunity for divestitures.

Filippo Falorni
Director of US Beverages, Household Products, and Personal Care Lead Analyst, Citi

Great. Maybe just a last question, just taking a step back, you've obviously had a, like, a big implementation of all these strategic changes with Linda, the digital investment. Like, a lot of the heavy lifting is behind you at this point. As you look ahead over the next couple of years, like, what are you most excited about as you think about, like, starting to see some of the ROIs from all these initiatives and potentially getting also the top line to accelerate and market share?

Luc Bellet
EVP and CFO, The Clorox Company

Yeah. Our focus, you know, our focus in the short, medium, and long term is really about accelerating growth, and we talked a lot about it, you know, today. I think, you know, the sequential improvement in the back half is a start. I think we're, you know, as you mentioned, with the investment that we made, we're well positioned for the future. I think the digital foundation that we have is really gonna start modernizing a lot of the capabilities we have, and then, and with that, strengthen our brand and accelerate growth. From a margin standpoint, you know, as I said, we feel like we have a strong, you know, pipeline going forward. If anything, the implementation of the ERP is actually giving us extra fuel for productivities for years to comes.

Hopefully enable us to expand margin and reinvest in profitable growth.

Filippo Falorni
Director of US Beverages, Household Products, and Personal Care Lead Analyst, Citi

Great. That's a good place to end.

Luc Bellet
EVP and CFO, The Clorox Company

Okay. Thank you.

Filippo Falorni
Director of US Beverages, Household Products, and Personal Care Lead Analyst, Citi

Thank you so much, Luc.

Luc Bellet
EVP and CFO, The Clorox Company

Thank you, Filippo.

Filippo Falorni
Director of US Beverages, Household Products, and Personal Care Lead Analyst, Citi

Thank you, everyone.

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