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Earnings Call: Q3 2021

Nov 24, 2021

Operator

Good day, and welcome to the Cheetah Mobile Q3 2021 conference call. All participants will be in listen only mode. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Sheryl Zhang, Investor Relations Director of Cheetah Mobile. Please go ahead, ma'am.

Sheryl Zhang
Investor Relations Director, Cheetah Mobile

Thank you, operator. Welcome to Cheetah Mobile's Q3 2021 earnings conference call. With us today are Mr. Sheng Fu, Chairman and CEO, and Mr. Thomas Ren, CFO. Following management's prepared remarks, we will conduct the Q&A session. Before we begin, I refer you to the safe harbor statement in our earnings release, which will also apply to our conference call today, as we will make forward-looking statements. At this time, I would now like to turn the conference call over to our CEO, Mr. Sheng Fu. Please go ahead, Sheng Fu.

Sheng Fu
Chairman and CEO, Cheetah Mobile

Thank you, Sheryl. Hello, everyone. In the third quarter of 2021, consistent with our previous guidance, Cheetah Mobile's revenue was RMB 199.6 million. For our internet business, we continue to transform our business from single advertising model to a diversified model of advertising plus subscription. The number of members kept double-digit growth. The revenue from our membership business have increased for more than five quarters consecutively. In PC platform, we further enhanced our service and membership privilege. The overall members satisfaction score stays a high level. Our mobile platform, we improved user experience through product optimization and more value-added service. The percentage of paying users as well as the renewal rate both increased. In general, after the huge external challenges, our internet business has been back to the right track as we planned.

However, now globally, advertising is facing some uncertainty. In China, sectors such as education, real estate, travel, have slowed down due to COVID-19. Government supervision and regulation and some other reasons, the impact has been passed on to advertising business. Companies including Baidu and Tencent are not very optimistic about advertising in the coming quarters. Our outlook for the first quarter also reflects these negative factors. Overseas advertising business of big companies such as Facebook also faced headwind from the change of iOS 14. Macroeconomic and COVID-related factors. Our overseas advertising agency business is inevitably adversely affected. As this might be a multi-quarter impact, this also has been factored in our fourth quarter guidance. Good news is revenues from our global cloud service has been growing very well due to expanding service categories and the client base in this quarter.

Enterprises, which try to explore overseas market, have a real demand for this service. We are very optimistic about its future growth. For our AI business, GMV and revenue from shopping mall coupon saving robots has been up for several months in a row. We applied both offline and online marketing strategies to expand the business. Offline, we have deployed more than 10,000 robots in more than 40 cities. Online, we use our own WeChat mini program, (Non-English content), some other local network community, as well as some mainstream third-party platforms. Customers can register in (Non-English content) through our shopping mall robots and choose their favorite coupons from a list of options we displayed in this mini program. Merchants can also use (Non-English content) professional platform to review the data of their coupon sale and analyze. Currently, our robots sell more than 5,000...

5,000 kinds of coupons for more than 1,000 merchants in more than 700 shopping malls all over the country. At the end of October, GMV per day at the weekend has achieved another milestone. For this business, we have gradually breached competition barriers. It has been widely welcomed by more and more merchants and customers. Generally speaking, revenue from our new business, such as the membership business, the global cloud service business, and the shopping mall co-coupon saving robots business, will keep growing. While our revenues from advertising-related business will face some challenges in the coming quarter. For cost and expense, our operational efficiency has been greatly improved in past quarters. Upon this, we will continue the strict control over cost and expense to maximize our operational efficiency and the interest of our shareholders.

Additionally, as of September 30th 2021, our cash position was around $288 million, and the long-term equity investments was about $376 million. The abundant capital reserves ensure us to focus on our strategies and growing steadily. With that, I will now turn the call to our CFO, Thomas Ren, to go through the detail of our Q3 financial results.

Thomas Ren
CFO, Cheetah Mobile

Thank you, Sheng, and hello everyone. Thank you all for joining us today. Now, I will walk you through our key financial highlights. Please note that unless stated otherwise, all money amounts are in RMB terms. As Sheng just mentioned, in the Q3 of 2021, our total revenues were RMB 196 million, representing a year-over-year decrease of 46% and a quarter-over-quarter decrease of seven percent. The revenue was within the range of our previous guidance. To explain the reasons behind the changes, now let me break down our revenues into Internet and AI and other sectors. As a result of the company's ongoing business streamlining efforts, we realigned our business segments based on the change of the way that the management assesses the company's segment performance.

The company's overseas advertising agency services, which assists the company to launch advertisement on overseas advertising platforms, are changed from the Internet business into AI and others due to the synergies created between the company's advertising agency services and global cloud services. Consequently, the company has retrospectively revised segment information and the related revenue presentation to conform to the change in the company's segments. Revenues from the company's Internet business decreased at 51% year-over-year and 16% quarter-over-quarter to CNY 161 million in this quarter. The year-over-year decrease was due to the company's strategic efforts to diminish the game-related business in past quarters. The quarterly decrease was mainly because revenue in the Q2 of 2021 was temporarily increased due to 618 promotional events, and no such promotional event occurred in this quarter.

Revenues from AI and others. As the reclassification of the segment from this quarter, this segment now includes our shopping mall coupon selling business, overseas advertising agency business, global cloud business, and some other business. Revenues from this segment were CNY 36 million in the Q3 of 2021, representing a 9% year-over-year decrease and a 63% quarter-over-quarter increase. The year-over-year decline was primarily attributable to the planned drop in sales of AI-related hardware products. The quarter-over-quarter increase was from our global cloud services as well as shopping mall coupon selling robots business. Turning to costs and expenses. The following discussion of results will be on a non-GAAP basis, which excludes stock-based compensation expenses. The use of non-GAAP measures in this context will help us to better present the results of our operating performance without the effect of non-cash items.

For financial information presented in accordance with US GAAP, please refer to our earnings release. Our operating loss was RMB 59 million in the third quarter of 2021, compared with RMB 119 million in the same period of last year, and RMB 56 million in the previous quarter. Our adjusted EBITDA was RMB -38 million in the Q3 of 2021, compared with RMB -101.6 million in the same period last year, and RMB -47.7 million in the previous quarter. Cost of revenues decreased by 34% year-over-year and increased 48% quarter-over-quarter to RMB 74 million in the third quarter of 2021. The year-over-year decrease was primarily due to the decreased revenue. The quarter-over-quarter increase was from increased spending over AI-related business.

Research and development expenses decreased by 54% year-over-year and increased by 11% quarter-over-quarter to RMB 52 million in the Q3 of 2021. The decrease was due to the deconsolidation of certain gaming-related business in past quarters. Our investment in research and development has been keeping flat. The quarter-over-quarter change was mainly due to less government grants in this quarter. Selling and marketing expenses decreased by 49% year-over-year and 30% quarter-over-quarter to RMB 85 million in the Q3 of 2021. This year-over-year decrease was attributable to the streamlining of our business and the strategic reduction of our costs, while the quarter-over-quarter decrease was mostly because we incurred incremental promotion expenses for the June 18 promotional events in the second quarter.

General and administrative expenses decreased by 46% year-over-year and by 7% quarter-over-quarter to CNY 48 million in the third quarter of 2021. The decrease was mainly due to the streamlining of our business and our effective expense control. Now let me turn to our balance sheet. As of September 30, 2021, we had cash and cash equivalents, restricted cash and short-term investments of $288 million and long-term equity investments of $376 million. This strong balance sheet ensures us to follow our long-term development plans and achieve our strategic goals. For our fourth quarter revenue guidance, we currently expect total revenues to be between CNY 130 million and CNY 180 million.

As Sheng just mentioned, our guidance has reflected the uncertainty we face in the fourth quarter due to the headwinds in global advertising business. Please note this forecast reflects our current and preliminary views and is subject to change. This concludes our prepared remarks. Operator, we are now ready to take questions. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press star then one on your touchtone phone. If you are using a speakerphone, we ask that you please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. If your question has already been addressed and you'd like to remove yourself from queue, please press star then two. When asking the question, please state your question in Chinese first, then repeat your question in English for the convenience of everyone on the call. Please stand by as we poll for questions. Today's first question comes from Melody Cheng at Jefferies. Please go ahead.

Melody Cheng
Analyst, Jefferies

Let me translate my question. My first question is on the advertising business. How should we think about the impact of the COVID uncertainty and the macro weakness and also the regulation impact? My second question is on the AI business. How should we think about the AI business outlook in 2022? Thank you.

Thomas Ren
CFO, Cheetah Mobile

Okay. Thank you, Melody. I will answer your first question and Mr. Sheng will answer your second question, and I will translate for him. Your question, I think it's regarding the advertising business and firstly, I would briefly answer the impact by COVID uncertainty and then some also macro weakness. Yes, we think COVID uncertainty and macro weakness will affect on our business. We can see now globally advertising is facing some uncertainty. In China, sectors such as education, real estate, travel, have been slowed down due to COVID-19. Also the government supervision, the regulation, some other reasons. The impact has been passed down to advertising business. Some bigger internet platform companies are not very optimistic about advertising in the coming quarters.

Also our outlook for the fourth quarter also reflect these negative factors. On the overseas market advertising business, as we mentioned, for the big platform company like Facebook, they are also facing headwinds from the change of iOS 14, macroeconomic and COVID-related factors. Our overseas advertising agency business is also adversely affected, and this might be impacted by multiple quarters. This also has been factored in our fourth quarter guidance. Also for our shopping mall coupon selling robot business, there were also some negative impact on our business in certain cities. Some shops in these cities were closed or some restaurants stopped operating. It is controllable and the impact was only in limited areas. We didn't see a significant impact on our shopping mall robot business.

Also, I think your question also involves the regulation impact by the Personal Information Protection Law. We also see the strict government supervision and regulations could also slow down the advertising business. This has already been reflected in some Chinese big internet companies' financial results. As we mentioned earlier, we also expect some negative impact on our advertising related business. For us internally, our related departments have been starting and following the regulations and laws seriously. We also adjusted how we display advertisement on our platforms and how we can collect users' information. We conducted some internal restructure to better comply with the updated government regulations.

As we mentioned now, we are focusing on new business such as membership, shopping mall, coupon selling, and the global cloud service. We are confident about the growth of this new business. Generally speaking, about these regulations, we will strictly comply. At the same time we also have made business strategies to ensure the growth of our overall business. Hope this answers your question. Let me translate this part. We have deployed over 10,000 service robots in thousands of cities across China. We recently realized that all the customers, they are already used to talking to the robots in the shopping malls, like inquiring the information of merchants in that shopping mall or the service provided by those merchants.

Because we found the customer already used to, you know, communicating with our service robots. We found that when the customers is asking the location or interaction with our service robots, the coupons we recommend for the customers could be acceptable. All the merchants in the shopping malls, especially the restaurants, they also need that to deploy some of their coupons in this shopping mall to attract its traffic.

Sheng Fu
Chairman and CEO, Cheetah Mobile

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Thomas Ren
CFO, Cheetah Mobile

When the customer is shopping in the mall. For most of the times, they didn't have a clear targeted restaurant. Sometimes it might be or they might go into the recommend restaurants because of the coupons we recommend.

Sheng Fu
Chairman and CEO, Cheetah Mobile

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Thomas Ren
CFO, Cheetah Mobile

Combining the three parties' demands, we are promoting the mini program called (Non-English content).

Sheng Fu
Chairman and CEO, Cheetah Mobile

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Thomas Ren
CFO, Cheetah Mobile

When the customer interacts with our robots. They first need to register our mini program to become a member of our mini program. They pay to buy the coupons through our program. They can bring the electronic coupons to the restaurant or to the merchants to enjoy the discounts.

Sheng Fu
Chairman and CEO, Cheetah Mobile

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Thomas Ren
CFO, Cheetah Mobile

By promoting our service robots around the shopping malls, we can successfully convert the offline traffic into the online traffic or online user base of our mini program.

Sheng Fu
Chairman and CEO, Cheetah Mobile

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Thomas Ren
CFO, Cheetah Mobile

By this business model, we can apply our advantage of the internet traffic business model to combine with the offline traffic user base.

Sheng Fu
Chairman and CEO, Cheetah Mobile

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Thomas Ren
CFO, Cheetah Mobile

Yeah, we have provided over 5,000 coupons in our mini program.

Sheng Fu
Chairman and CEO, Cheetah Mobile

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Thomas Ren
CFO, Cheetah Mobile

We believe this business model could grow fast, because as we just mentioned, it's a combination of three parties demands.

Sheng Fu
Chairman and CEO, Cheetah Mobile

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Thomas Ren
CFO, Cheetah Mobile

This could also convert our traditional internet business from the previous pure advertising model into the consumption and payment process.

Sheng Fu
Chairman and CEO, Cheetah Mobile

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Thomas Ren
CFO, Cheetah Mobile

We can also earn our commissions by selling the coupons. This could be another source of our future commercial income.

Sheng Fu
Chairman and CEO, Cheetah Mobile

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Thomas Ren
CFO, Cheetah Mobile

This is basically our shopping mall service robot business model.

Melody Cheng
Analyst, Jefferies

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Sheng Fu
Chairman and CEO, Cheetah Mobile

(Non-English content)

Thomas Ren
CFO, Cheetah Mobile

Thank you, Melody.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, as a reminder, if you would like to ask a question, please press star then one. As there are no further questions at this time, I'd like to hand the conference back to our management for closing remarks.

Sheng Fu
Chairman and CEO, Cheetah Mobile

Thank you, operator. Thank you all for joining us today. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact us. Thank you. Bye.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference call. Thank you all for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect your lines and have a wonderful day.

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