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Earnings Call: Q3 2020

Nov 5, 2020

Speaker 1

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by, and welcome to BigCommerce Third Quarter 2020 Earnings Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. After the speakers' presentation, there will be a question and answer session. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to your first speaker today, Rohit Giri, Head of Investor Relations.

Thank you. Please go ahead, sir.

Speaker 2

Good afternoon, and welcome to BigCommerce's Q3 2020 earnings call. We will be discussing the results announced in our press release issued after the market closed today. With me are BigCommerce's President, CEO and Chairman, Brent Bellum and CFO, Robert Alvarez. Today's call will contain forward looking statements, which are made pursuant to the Safe Harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Forward looking statements include statements concerning financial and business trends, our expected future business and financial performance and financial condition, and our guidance for the Q4 of 2020 and the full year 2020.

These statements can be identified by words such as expect, anticipate, intend, plan, believe, seek, will or similar words. These statements reflect our views as of today only and should not be relied upon as representing our views at any subsequent date, and we do not undertake any duty to update these statements. Forward looking statements by their nature address matters that are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from expectations. For a discussion of the material risks and other important factors that could affect our actual results, please refer to the and other disclosures contained in our filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. During the call, we will also discuss certain non GAAP financial measures, which are not prepared in accordance with generally accepted accounting principles.

A reconciliation of these non GAAP financial measures to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures as well as how we define these metrics and other metrics is included in our earnings press release, which has been furnished to the SEC and is also available on our website at investors.ecommerce.com. With that, let me turn the call over to Brent.

Speaker 3

Thanks, Rohit. Welcome, everyone, and thanks for joining us today. I hope everyone is in good health and keeping safe. Let's jump right into our Q3 performance. Our results reflect strong execution, continued product innovation and the impact of our best of breed partner ecosystem.

We had an exceptional third quarter with Q3 revenue coming in at $39,700,000 up 41% year over year. Total annual revenue run rate or ARR was 167 $1,000,000 which was up 38% year over year. Q3 revenue and ARR achieved our highest growth rates in years and we've accelerated our year over year revenue growth rate for 4 consecutive quarters. We remain strategically focused on serving the needs of merchants of all sizes and this past quarter further illustrates our ability to continue to disrupt the mid market and large enterprise segments of the market. Our continued progress in moving up market was reflected in our enterprise account ARR growth rate, which was up 48% year over year in Q3.

We delivered these results through a disciplined investment framework that is both intentional and purposeful. I'm proud of the improving efficiency in our financial model that we delivered in Q3, which represents a 15 point year over year improvement in our adjusted EBITDA margin. Our Open SaaS platform continues to succeed in the market because of 3 primary factors. 1st, our platform's enterprise functionality second, our platform's openness and flexibility and third, our lower total cost of ownership. We have benefited from overall e commerce trends and equally important to our progress has been the strategic decisions and investments we made as a company before the COVID-nineteen crisis started.

Our continued momentum is reflected in both our financial results and third party industry recognition. For example, IDC Marketscape recently named BigCommerce a leader in B2C Digital Commerce and a major player in B2B Digital Commerce. IDC cited our strength in digital commerce, including the level of value delivered relative to the price paid for the application, our out marketplace for add ons to the core commerce offering in areas such as PIM, order management, shipping and marketing content management, and finally, our merchant centric implementation experience. BigCommerce was also recently named a challenger in the 2020 Gartner Magic Quadrant for digital commerce platforms. We were positioned furthest to the right on the completeness of vision access in the challengers quadrant, which we consider recognition of our open SaaS approach and our position as a disruptor of legacy platforms.

Lastly, BigCommerce earned 7 medals in the Paradigm B2B Combine, mid market report, and we are the only vendor that earned gold in both partner ecosystem and total cost of ownership. Customers spoke highly of BigCommerce's extensive partner ecosystem and a rich open application marketplace. This further validates our open SaaS API and partner first approach to digital commerce. I'd like to turn now and highlight some exciting new stores that launched in Q3. ChapStick, a subsidiary of GlaxoSmithKline has been a leader in lift care and innovation since the 1880s, in line with the broader trend of reputable traditional brands going direct to consumer, ChapStick made its e commerce debut on BigCommerce because their governing IT team performed a thorough tech evaluation and felt BigCommerce was a secure and trustworthy platform.

5 Hour Energy wanted a platform that offered full control over their URL structure and found BigCommerce to be their best SaaS option that enabled that. The well known camera manufacturer Nikon launched their Canada store on BigCommerce because of the ease of doing business with our team and also because of the company's ability to work within an existing complex architecture as well as our strong PIP EDA, which is Canada's Personal Information Protection and Electronic Documents Act and GDPR compliance frameworks. After the Baseball Hall of Fame recently launched on BigCommerce, we now also serve Little League International. The program chose BigCommerce because it needed a platform that had robust and best of breed point of sale options. For all of you soccer or football fans, this next one will be particularly exciting.

Chivas is a leading football club in the top professional football division of the Mexican Football League system. Not only does it represent one of our first enterprise customers in Mexico, the club chose BigCommerce both for our flexible, open SaaS approach, which allows them to grow with the platform, and also because of the personal relationship partnership our team established with our in house e commerce team every step of the way. Now I'd like to discuss some of the new and exciting product enhancements we have recently launched. We recently announced the availability of Channel Manager, a modernized platform feature that makes it easier for merchants to manage their comprehensive omnichannel sales presence. We recently launched our partnership with Wish, one of the largest and fastest growing global e commerce marketplaces and the latest to join the BigCommerce partner ecosystem.

Wish helps expand BigCommerce merchants' visibility to 100,000,000 monthly active users across more than 100 countries. In addition, the commerce merchant selling on Wish can now leverage delivers fast and affordable fulfillment to get the exclusive Wish 2 day delivery tag on their listings. On our last earnings call, we outlined the multiple growth levers we are pursuing. Let me give you an update on each of the growth drivers. When our merchants businesses thrive and grow on our platform, we grow too.

The pricing of our Essentials and Enterprise plans are designed to adjust as our customer sales on our platform increase above volume threshold. In Q3, we saw strong growth in our Enterprise business with our enterprise account ARR growing 48% versus last year, as I previously mentioned. For accounts with greater than $2,000 ACV, we saw average revenue per account grow 7% sequentially versus Q2 and 31% versus Q3 2019. We also grow by acquiring new B2C and B2B merchants. Q3 was one of our strongest quarters for new bookings.

We experienced continued momentum not only in new enterprise plan bookings, but also in organic growth within our existing merchant base. Our growth is also fueled by expanding our product and go to market capabilities in geographies around the world. Revenue from our international business grew 53% year over year in Q3 with 67% year over year revenue growth in EMEA and 42% year over year revenue growth in APAC. We remain committed to our efforts to expand internationally and we see a massive opportunity to bring our open SaaS model to new markets as we build our 2021 plans. Finally, in Q3, we saw a significant increase in the expansion of our technology ecosystem to further bolster channel managers' impact on merchants' ability to manage their comprehensive omnichannel sales efforts, we signed new partnerships with Sud Commerce, Wish, SureDone, Pedonomics and Deliver to up level our merchants' ability to sell cross channel.

Successful cross channel sales include advertising on marketplaces and to support that we welcome ads partners Tenuity and Take A Metrics. We've invested resources in expanding our offerings in what we call site tools, which are features that add foundational value to merchant stores. Accessibility features help open up e commerce to all shoppers and charitable donations. Our new partnership with Essential Accessibility, a leading SaaS based accessibility service, highlights our continued efforts to enable all shoppers to shop with ease. We're excited to expand our PayPal relationship with integration to their point of sale solution, iZettle, which launched in EMEA this month.

We forged a partnership with the number one payment gateway in the Netherlands and continue to enhance our headless suite of offerings with FronTastic and Amplience. In support of our open SaaS model, BigCommerce hosted Make It Big, our annual marquee 3 day digital event last month. This year marked our 3rd annual event featuring leading e commerce experts, influencers and big commerce partners and was co sponsored by Digital Marketer. Over 8,000 registrants had free access to 21 sessions delivered over 3 days featuring proven strategies, expert tips and tactics, and real world success stories. Make It Big 2020 has expanded to reach merchants and customers globally with content intended to help merchants of all stages of growth.

Wrapping up, I just want to reiterate how grateful I am for the BigCommerce team across all of our offices. I would like to end with my sincere thanks to all of our BigCommerce employees and partners for their resiliency and dedication to serve and support our merchants during these challenging times. Now, I would like to turn it over to Robert for a deeper discussion of our financial results.

Speaker 4

Thanks, Brent, and thanks again to everyone for joining us today. Before discussing detailed financial results, I'd like to point out that in addition to our GAAP results, I'll also be discussing certain non GAAP results. Our GAAP financial results along with the reconciliation between GAAP and non GAAP results can be found in our earnings release. As Brent mentioned, we generated total revenue in Q3 of $39,700,000 up 41% year over year. Subscription revenue was $26,500,000 in Q3, up 26% year over year.

That growth rate accelerated versus Q2 due to strong bookings growth and retention as well as the sunsetting of the 90 day essentials plans promotion, which we discussed in our Q2 call. Subscription revenue accounted for 67% of our Q3 revenue, led by new merchant subscriptions and plan upgrades from existing merchants. Partner and services revenue was $13,200,000 in Q3, up 82% year over year, which accounted for 33% of our Q3 revenue. The increase in partner and service revenue was primarily a result of increased e commerce activity across our platform, driven in part by the COVID-nineteen pandemic related changes in consumer behavior and improved monetization of partner revenue share. Since the onset of the pandemic, we have generally experienced a shortening of sales cycle time and an improvement in lead conversion and competitive win rates.

Our teams are also working hard to maintain strong platform performance and the uptime necessary to help our merchants in these challenging times. While we expect the macroeconomic shift towards e commerce to continue after the COVID-nineteen pandemic abates, elevated levels of platform transaction volume, subscription revenue and PSR may recede as pandemic related restrictions eventually ease. Therefore, we will continue to take a prudent approach in forecasting the COVID impact given this uncertainty, while continuing to make the structural investments necessary to fuel our long term growth strategy. Moving on to our key business metrics. First, let's discuss ARR, our annual revenue run rate.

As a reminder, our ARR consists of the sum of the current month's monthly recurring revenue or MRR multiplied by 12 plus the trailing 12 month revenue that we generate from partner and services revenue or PSR. As we mentioned earlier, Q3 ARR was $167,000,000 up 38% year over year, resulting from strong new merchant bookings, continued strength in the retention of existing merchants and increased subscription fees from higher merchant sales and order growth adjustments. As we've talked about at length before, we focus on providing the best open SaaS solution in the market to disrupt legacy open source providers in the mid market and enterprise segments. We measure the increasing mix shift of our enterprise accounts by tracking our enterprise account ARR. As Brent mentioned, our enterprise account ARR grew 48% year over year to $89,800,000 in Q3 and enterprise accounts represented 54% of ARR as of September 30 compared to 50% as of September 30, 2019, further demonstrating our increased enterprise mix shift and continued traction in this segment of the market.

We also track the total number of accounts with annual contract value or ACV greater than $2,000 as of the end of a monthly billing period. For this cohort, we only consider subscription plan revenue in determining which accounts have a contract value greater than $2,000 in ACV. We ended Q3 with 9,777 customers over the $2,000 threshold, which was an increase of 399 accounts compared to Q2 and up 10% year over year. Accounts above the $2,000 ACV threshold represented 81% of our total ARR in Q3, up from 77% in Q3 'nineteen. Another key metric we track is ARPA or average revenue per account for accounts above the $2,000 ACV threshold.

ARPA for Q3 was $13,792 up 31% year over year, driven by a mix shift towards higher end retail pro plans and enterprise plans as we closed a strong mix of enterprise deals in Q3. In discussing the remainder of the income statement, please note that unless otherwise stated, all references to our expenses, operating results and share count are on a non GAAP basis. On a non GAAP basis, our gross margin profile remains strong and that has allowed us to be very intentional and purposeful in how we invest our capital. In Q3, our gross profit was $31,300,000 representing a gross margin of 79%. This compares to a gross margin of 76% a year ago and 79% last quarter.

The year over year increase in our gross margins was impacted in part by the high margin revenue share we earned from a subset of our strategic technology partners, which we book on a net margin basis. On a non GAAP basis, our sales and marketing expenses for Q3 were 18 point $5,000,000 or 46 percent of total revenue compared to $15,100,000 53 percent a year ago. We have made significant investments in sales and marketing throughout 2019 and the 1st 9 months of 2020 to expand our market reach in the U. S. And abroad.

Even while investing, we've been able to drive leverage because of our investments in our self-service purchase flow and the further mix shift towards enterprise accounts. Most of our mid market and enterprise leads come from inbound marketing, tech and agency partner referrals and outbound sales motions, which means we can continue to grow in this segment without having to spend large sums on digital marketing. On a non GAAP basis, our research and development expenses for Q3 were $11,500,000 or 29 percent of revenue compared to $10,700,000 38 percent a year ago. We have invested aggressively in product and engineering while also showing improving leverage. We know the investments are working as evidenced by the accelerating growth rates in our enterprise ARR.

Many of the investments required to disrupt the mid market and enterprise segments have already been made, so we are seeing good leverage in R and D and expect further leverage as we continue to scale up our offshore development team in Kyiv, Ukraine. General and administrative expenses for Q3 were $8,500,000 or 21 percent of revenue compared to $5,200,000 18 percent a year ago. On a non GAAP basis, operating loss for Q3 was negative 7,200,000 dollars or a negative 18 percent operating margin compared to a negative $9,500,000 or a negative 33 percent operating margin in Q3 2019. Adjusted EBITDA was negative $6,600,000 or a negative 17% adjusted EBITDA margin, a 15 point improvement from a negative 32% adjusted EBITDA margin a year ago. This result was better than our expectations and was driven by the significant increase in high margin partner and services revenue and our ability to manage spend effectively to drive leverage across the areas I previously mentioned.

Non GAAP net loss for Q3 was negative $8,000,000 or negative $0.16 per share compared to a net loss of negative 9,900,000 dollars or negative $0.55 per share a year ago. Turning to the balance sheet and cash flow statement. We ended Q3 with $178,800,000 in cash and cash equivalents. Our remaining performance obligations, or RPO, totaled approximately 70 $6,000,000 up 72 percent from $44,100,000 last year. We expect to recognize approximately 53% or $40,500,000 of the total RPO as revenue over the next 12 months.

Operating cash flow year to date was negative 23,200,000 dollars compared to negative $31,100,000 a year ago. Free cash flow was negative $24,600,000 or a negative 23 percent free cash flow margin compared to negative $36,400,000 and a negative 45 percent free cash flow margin a year ago. The nearly 22 point improvement in free cash flow margin was driven by our ability to realize more leverage in the business and our mix shift to enterprise, which has a higher mix of prepaid contracts. I will now conclude the call by providing guidance for Q4 and for the full year of 20. For the Q4, we expect total revenue in the range of $38,300,000 to $38,700,000 This represents an increase of over $1,000,000 at the midpoint compared to what our previously issued guidance implied.

Our Q4 guidance assumes that our Q4 subscription revenue will grow in the mid-20s similar to Q3, while partner and services is expected to grow in the 20% range. PSR revenue has more quarter to quarter variability than subscription revenue, and our assumption is that it will be down sequentially from the better than expected performance in Q3. This assumption takes into account the fact that the rev share arrangement with 1 of our ad partners is being adjusted in the 4th quarter with a new level of contribution being consistent with our previous expectations. Overall, we believe our PSR assumption is prudent considering that it is difficult to predict what year end partner related transaction volumes will look like during the COVID-nineteen pandemic, and we continue to forecast our business under the expectation that volumes will normalize back down to pre COVID levels over the course of the next 3 to 6 months. We expect a non GAAP operating loss in the range of negative $10,000,000 to negative $9,700,000 For the full fiscal year 2020, we now expect total revenue in the range of $147,500,000 to $147,900,000 or a year over year growth rate of 31.6% to 32%.

We expect a non GAAP operating loss in the range of negative $29,900,000 to negative $29,600,000 With that, Brent and I are happy to take any of your questions. Operator?

Speaker 1

Our first question or comment comes from the line of Stan Zlotsky from Morgan Stanley. Your line is open.

Speaker 5

Hey, guys. This is Chris on for Stan. Congrats on the quarter.

Speaker 6

I wanted to kind of

Speaker 5

ask about PSR and I saw that dollar amount and percentage growth basis both accelerated sequentially, which is really awesome to see. Within PSR, did you see a stronger attach of solutions outside of just the payments rev share? And I guess like the follow on question to that is, what is your up sell motion? How do you make sure that your merchants are taking more than just payments? Because I'm assuming when they take more than just payments, there's a level of durability that you can kind of guide to and see within the merchants as they grow more within the platform?

Thank you.

Speaker 4

Yes. Hey, Chris. Brent, let me take the first one, you can take the second one. So when we look at our PSR, as we've talked about, over the past couple of years, we've definitely entered into partnerships beyond payments. If you think about our ecosystem, our best of breed partners now span well beyond just payments.

Payments is obviously the most mature. One of the partners that has really started to produce a good amount of revenue for us is our largest ad partner. We talked about this during our last call that we were expecting the renegotiation in Q4. That guidance remains the same. What we saw was an increase in rev share from that ad partner in Q3, well beyond our expectations.

But as we think about Q4 and beyond, we feel great about the partnership. We feel about great about that revenue stream. And we feel great about our ability to monetize partners beyond payments over time. It's just a little bit noisy for Q4 as the new agreement kicks in and goes into effect.

Speaker 3

This is Brent. I'd add that the way we approach partnerships is with a real sense of commitment to our technology partners to help them present their best version of themselves to our customers and in our marketplace of apps. We organize by vertical. So we've got a team around payments and point of sale and ERPback office, B2B, email marketing and other marketing apps, etcetera, lots of different pods. They then are supported by our partner marketing team and our customer marketing teams as well as a team within the company whose full time jobs are basically to assist our merchants in selecting and adopting the best partner solutions for them.

So we are really simultaneously across all of the various verticals trying to assist our best partners in promoting their capabilities and driving adoption.

Speaker 5

Got it. Thanks guys.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Our next question or comment comes from the line of Raimo Lenschow from Barclays. Your line is open.

Speaker 7

Hey, thank you. Two questions. First, Brent, if I look at the partner revenue and the growth we saw this quarter, I mean, I'm aware that obviously things are normalizing eventually, etcetera. But what are you seeing like that 82% growth is better than we saw last quarter. So what does it tell us about like e commerce adoption and how e commerce is playing like a new role in this kind of new economy that we are living on now?

And then the follow-up is more for Robert. And it's like, so if I think about the growth rates there, maybe remind us of the puts and takes around subscription, because we had a couple of programs at the beginning of the year. It's now starting to inflect higher, but tell us a little bit about the drivers there again and kind of I'm trying to relate it to the partner revenue. Thank you.

Speaker 3

Hey, Raimo. In partner revenue, the single biggest component is rev share from our payments partners. And of course, the largest driver of that is actual sales volume or GMV for our customers. And we continue to see year on year growth rates in customer sales and therefore rev share hold up very strong. We keep planning for internally and in our external guidance, some kind of a return to a new normal trend line, but that return keeps being delayed with each passing week.

And really that's the biggest reason why PSR has stood up so strong and was 82% year on year in the last quarter.

Speaker 4

Okay. Yes, Raimo. Hey, Raimo. Yes, on your second question, just to remind everybody, we had a 90 day promo that we talked a lot about last time, which we wound down in July. And we were setting expectations that subscription revenue would bounce back in Q3 as those stores would convert to paid stores.

So we were very pleased when to deliver 26% year over year on the subscription line. We expect similar consistent growth in subscriptions into Q4. The one thing to call out for PSR, I think probably the biggest driver is the impact of the ad revenue that I had spoken about. Again, I want to emphasize the partnership has gone really, really well. It's teed us up to enter into a new agreement with our ad partner.

If you were to back that out for Q4, PSR would kind of be growing in that 40 percent range versus what we're guiding to in the 20s. So that's a little bit noisy on that front. But overall, probably the secondary factor of PSR for Q4, we are again ramping down GMV expectations with due to COVID and our inability to really predict the continued impact to COVID. So those are the 2 main factors going into Q4 and PSR.

Speaker 7

Perfect. Well done. Congratulations.

Speaker 4

Thanks, Raimo.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Our next question or comment comes from the line of Samad Samana from Jefferies. Your line is open.

Speaker 8

Hi, good evening. Strong quarter guys, great to see. Just maybe a question on Magento 1, you know, is more announced that support was going to end on June 30. I'm curious if you're seeing an increase or saw an increase in the 3rd quarter on legacy Magento customers as part of your new customer share? And then maybe Brent, do you have a realistic view on how many

Speaker 3

the last time I checked, I mean, you can go on builtwith.com and do a lookup of how many stores are still out there when they scan all sites that are publicly available on the Internet and running various versions of Magento 1. The last time I looked, if I remember right, there was something like 90,000 of them out there and that was after June 30. So clearly, because it's downloaded or on premise software, there's nobody that can easily stop a merchant from still running their installed version of Magento 1. And I am certain that there are still many, many, many tens of thousands of sites out there that are on it. We continue to generate very good sales for Magento 1 customers converting off of it and on to us.

So I think that that's one that until it trickles down to much closer to 0, there's lots of continued sales opportunity for us.

Speaker 8

Great. And then Robert, maybe a follow-up for you. The accounts with ACV grades in 2000, the growth rate there continued to accelerate even as the comp got I'm curious if you can maybe peel that back a little bit of how much of that was from existing customers tipping into a bigger category versus the strength in new customer adds?

Speaker 4

Yes. I mean, we had another great quarter of bookings, Samad. So if you look at our change in ARR, you can see a really strong bookings quarter for us. So I think the major driver of this is just the continued demand that we're seeing and new bookings that we've been able to deliver.

Speaker 8

Great. Thanks for taking my questions. It's really great to see an impressive performance guys. Take care.

Speaker 4

Thanks, Samad.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Our next question or comment comes from the line of Josh Beck from KBCM. Your line is open.

Speaker 9

Thank you for taking the question, team. I wanted to ask about really the any context you can share on these new bookings. I mean, it's pretty unusual for a company that see shrinking sales cycles. So in your conversations, is there any increased urgency? Is it anything to do with maybe the awareness of the company now that you're public?

Just any other context that you can share on really what's driving these strong new bookings that you're seeing?

Speaker 3

Hey, Josh. Certainly the pandemic really lights the urgency for a lot of companies who either got caught flat footed and needed to in the fastest timeframe possible replace offline sales channels either owned or third party that were shrinking. And one of the great benefits of our platform is it's about as fast and easy to get up and selling as possible and provides the flexibility and enterprise functionality to keep enhancing your operations over time. In addition, there are a lot of companies who might not be new to e commerce, but then found themselves needing to add new brands, new geographies, new segments that they sold to. And that certainly drove a lot of urgency.

Your third one, which is does being public assist with sales cycles because it gives greater confidence in companies that they are making the right choice, a safe choice. And we really believe that to be true. Companies are betting their digital future on their e commerce platforms. They want to make sure they get that decision right, not just at the time of making it, but they want to be on a platform that basically continues to innovate at the forefront of e commerce, keeps them ahead of the curve, doesn't force them to re platform a year or 2 down the road. And by being public, the sort of visibility that our prospective customers and our ecosystem partners have into our size, momentum, balance sheet strength, strategy is really night and day relative to what it was before August.

And so how much does that help? We can't quantify it, but we have a belief that it's really beneficial to our customers and our ecosystem.

Speaker 9

Thanks, Brent. And then maybe a follow-up on GMV. Robert, it certainly sounds like you want to on the data, are you seeing maybe signs of deceleration as some of these lockdowns ease? Or is it just more simply that it's very difficult to predict a metric like this and you'd rather just be a bit conservative?

Speaker 4

Yes. Hey, JB. As we talked about a lot before, March, April, we saw a really big spike in GMV and transactions. The strength really carried through Q2. We still saw strong performance, maybe not at the peak of what it was back in March, April.

But again, going into Q4, which is our holiday season, in a typical year, our holiday season would be the best quarter for us. But in this year, we're just again having to take a really prudent approach on what the GMV levels are going to be through the end of this year and kind of going into next year. So what we're doing is we're just taking a ramp down approach over the next 3 to 6 months, ending Q1 next year closer to where pre COVID GMV levels were. But I guess we'll just have to see how Q4 plays out.

Speaker 10

Makes sense. Thanks guys.

Speaker 11

Thanks JB.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Our next question or comment comes from the line of David Hynes from Canaccord. Your line is open.

Speaker 11

Hey, guys. Congrats on the results and thanks for taking the questions. Brent, I wanted to ask about the new customer adds in that 2 ks plus cohort. Curious if you're seeing any shift in the mix of first time e commerce participants versus replatforming wins, I guess, compared to kind of pre COVID? And maybe any implications about what that tells us about the current environment?

Speaker 3

Hey, David. We don't closely track this for every customer. Under normal times, we estimate the mix to be about fifty-fifty, re platforms versus new from scratch sites. It was our belief and understanding that for the 1st several months of the pandemic, things shifted in the direction of new sites and companies that needed to really adopt as quickly as possible. And those who are on existing sites were sort of clinging by their fingernails trying to keep them up, handling the volumes.

But now that folks have readjusted to working in remote environments or if they're lucky able to kind of go back with colleagues, it's a lot easier to start thinking about your future and the importance of being on the right platform. And so migrations are certainly back and probably a pretty big part of the total mix, but I don't have a number specifically to be able to share on that. Thanks for the question.

Speaker 11

Yes, that makes sense. And then maybe just a follow-up. So I think, look, obviously, we know you guys are well positioned in that mid market, enterprise market. I think one of the benefits, if you will, of COVID is you've kind of seen a resurgence of growth in the SMB segment as well. So I'm curious if that's driven any change in terms of how you're thinking about

Speaker 10

kind of investment allocation going forward. I don't know if that's

Speaker 11

a better question for you, Brent, or are you

Speaker 4

Hey, TJ. I'll start, Brent, and you can finish.

Speaker 11

But, I think,

Speaker 4

Hey, DJ. I'll start, Brendan, and you can finish. But yes, clearly, we're seeing strong bookings for our enterprise accounts. But since March, we've seen really strong bookings across our SMB segment. And I think that in terms of investments, I think the way we're deploying funds and how we're going to market, there's a lot of things that benefit both segments and we feel like the balance that we have today is driving growth in both.

And so no major changes, but definitely pleased with the performance of our SMB teams.

Speaker 11

Yes, yes, makes sense. Okay, great. Thanks guys.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Our next question or comment comes from the line of Scott Berg from Needham and Company. Your line is open.

Speaker 12

Hi, Brenton and Ari, congrats on a good quarter and thanks for taking my questions. I guess 2 for me. First of all, let's start off with your upmarket transactions, whether they're B2B or on the enterprise side. Brent, are you seeing any like commonality in what's driving customers to move besides just the general modernization kind of type of comments? I didn't know if it was maybe a particular vendor that had some aging technology that you're seeing more of those customers try to rush en masse with the current e commerce trends or if there's a particular type of functionality that maybe those customers are missing that has really attracted them during this pandemic to what the BigCommerce platform has?

Speaker 3

Yes, I think the dynamics, and thanks for the question, Scott, are different depending on whether a company is on legacy on premise software or on an old and outdated SaaS platform. If you're on premise software, you typically buy a license, start customizing it, find it increasingly hard over time to do upgrades and patches. You find out that the version you're on can't be modernized to take advantage of the latest functionality and trends. And as a result of that, it seems like every year that Internet retailer queries companies on whether they are planning to replatform in the next 12 months. There's this ironclad rule that the number is always 20% to 25% say yes.

In other words, the lifespan of on premise software seems to be about 4 to 5 years before it's so outdated, buggy, poor performing that companies scrap it and start over. And that hasn't changed. In addition to that, the sort of the older SaaS platform, some of which date from the 90s or early 2000s simply haven't invested, haven't been kept up. They are nowhere close to where we are in capabilities and performance. They don't have the partnerships like the still losing ground every month.

And those companies eventually will move off as well. If you want to stay at the forefront of e commerce, there are really only a few multi tenant SaaS platforms that are investing to do that. And of course, we're one of those, but we are distinguished because we're the only one that is focused only on our e commerce platform. We're not a software conglomerate. Our platform is not a minority or a small minority of our revenue.

It drives everything for us. And so we think that we're the most focused company in the world at delivering the best ecom platform and one that's always innovating faster than our competition.

Speaker 12

Got it. Helpful. And then from a follow-up perspective, maybe this is for RA. As you're looking at your PSR revenues and maybe what the shift in those revenues looks like or interest from your customers during this pandemic, If we were to look out 2 or 3 years, obviously payments is a big chunk of that and continues to do well and is driven by GMV. And you talked about ad revenues.

But is there another type of partner functionality there that you would kind of look back and say, hey, this is starting to see some traction and can help grow those revenues maybe more than what we thought pre pandemic?

Speaker 4

Yes, Scott. I mean long term, I'll start with just talking about our ecosystem. I mean if you think about our best of breed partners that we go to market with, there is a solid list of categories that we are now getting rev share on today and that's a byproduct of partnerships we've entered into in the past 12 months to 24 months. But long term, we think about it as share of wallet and payments is a line item that again is the most mature. But if you think about shipping, if you think about tax, if you think about omni channel marketplaces, advertising, all of those opportunities are in front of BigCommerce.

And when the revenue will materialize in a big way, it's hard to predict, but the opportunity is definitely there.

Speaker 12

Great. That's all I have. Thanks for taking my questions.

Speaker 4

Thanks, Scott.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Our next question or comment comes from the line of Mr. Brian Peterson from Raymond James. Please go ahead, sir.

Speaker 10

Hi, gentlemen. Thanks for taking the question and congrats on the really strong results. So I wanted to hit on international. So the 67% growth in EMEA, that's pretty impressive. Can you talk about what's driving success and how you think the platform is positioned to solve some of the challenges for merchants in that region?

Speaker 3

Yes. The success in growth in EMEA is overwhelmingly driven by the UK and Northern Europe, a little bit of Netherlands, Scandinavia, Ireland, but it's Northern Europe that is driving it. And what we have found is that we hired the right team, the right people out of the gates to solution and work with companies effectively. One thing I would say that is different about e commerce in Europe relative to the U. S.

Is that traditional brands, traditional retailers are a bigger part relatively of e commerce in Europe than they are in the United States where new startups, new brands, new online retailers have a higher share. And that greater complexity of pre existing businesses favors our platform's flexibility, its openness, its adaptability. We see more headless implementations in Europe than we do in other regions. So really, really bullish on where we can go from there because with that strength, we're now starting to target Continental Europe as well. We announced the launch of our marketing websites in France, Italy and the Netherlands.

And it's just the very early days of what will hopefully be very strong competitiveness from us. In Continental Europe, Eastern Europe, Middle East and Africa, ultimately, we'd really like to serve great companies in every part of the world and hope that that Northern Europe success is indicative of what we can do elsewhere. Thanks for the question.

Speaker 10

Great. Thanks, Matt. And maybe if I can get one follow-up in. Obviously, there's a lot of upside this quarter. I'm curious, what are you guys seeing from an LTV to CAC perspective?

And where are the areas where you're really looking to kind of pick up the investments as we think of the head to 2021? Thank you.

Speaker 4

Hey, VP. I mean, as you know, as that mix our mix continues to shift to enterprise accounts, our LTV to CAC unit economics get even better. And so we're seeing we're definitely seeing that. We're still very focused on how we drive leads and demand for our enterprise accounts and that efficiency held true in Q3 and direct sales. And I think those motions are working well and they're showing up in our improving metrics, very much in line with the continued growth in enterprise accounts.

Good to hear. One thing I'll also share, BP, is as we go to market with more of our tech partners and the ecosystem, they drive merchants and leads over to big commerce and that benefits not just mid market and enterprise, but it also benefits our small business segment.

Speaker 10

Got it. Thank you.

Speaker 4

Thanks, VP.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Our next question or comment comes from the line of Terry Tillman from Truist. Please go ahead, sir.

Speaker 13

Yes. I'll echo the congratulations, Brent and R. A. And thanks for taking my question. And And then I had a follow-up.

I guess maybe just looking at the product front, you guys provide nice color each quarter on new innovations. Maybe just going back to last quarter, Brent, in terms of Page Builder, it was an important new innovation. What have you seen from your customers and how they're consuming that and how that's helping their web store fronts? And then I had a follow-up.

Speaker 3

Yes, all the feedback we've received has been incredibly positive and for the question, Terry. It first went out in beta in April and for a few months was available only on new stores. It's now available to existing stores. It's full general availability. It was one of these somewhat magical product releases for us because despite being big and complex, it went out on time and bug free.

The user experience has been great and we're just going to keep adding to it because as we enhance the capabilities, making it globally available across pages, adding more GraphQL APIs to individual sort of widget components, it's only going to get better with time. And so we're really thrilled with Page Builder as a foundation for creating beautiful web pages that convert without having to go into the source code to modify things and feedback has been great. Thanks for the question, Terry.

Speaker 13

That's great

Speaker 5

to hear.

Speaker 6

Yes. Yes. And then

Speaker 13

the follow-up is just related to maybe, Ari, for you in terms of enterprise ARR growth accelerated to 48% up from 44 percent. You guys still have a lot of go to market investments that are still baking from last year and even into this year, you're now public, product enhancements, market tailwinds. Is there a certain kind of threshold that you're looking for kind of a minimal growth rate in enterprise ARR? Or is there even still the potential for it to continue accelerating? Thank you and again nice job.

Speaker 4

Hey, thanks Terry. I mean if you just look at our past quarterly trend, our enterprise account ARR has been growing north of 40% pretty consistently. That mix shift continues to accelerate. So, yes, we're very, very happy with the continued performance of our enterprise go to market teams and a lot of the investments that we're making in the product are obviously driving this investments that we've made in the partner ecosystem are helping to drive this. So, yes, it's pretty consistently above 40% and it was really good to deliver almost 50% year over year growth in enterprise this past quarter.

Speaker 7

All right. Thank you.

Speaker 4

Thanks, Terry.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Our next question or comment comes from the line of Ygal Arounian from Wedbush Securities. Your line is open.

Speaker 10

Hey, guys. Thanks for taking the questions. I want to start with just dialing into 4Q volumes partner revenue and how you're thinking about how volumes kind of trend as we continue through the pandemic, particularly around the comments on holiday. So I think generally speaking, expectations are for really strong holiday sales for e commerce, talking about a lot of carrier constraints, an earlier start to the holiday season. Anything you're seeing from your merchants that would give you confidence that holiday is going to be a strong part of the holiday sale season for them as well.

Speaker 3

Ari, you want to take that since it kind of relates to guidance?

Speaker 4

Yes, yes, sure. I mean, for I mean, what we're seeing across both SMB, mid market and enterprise is obviously a sense of urgency to get ready for the holiday season. We're seeing our sales cycles come down as merchants try to get online to get ahead of the holiday season. Clearly, e commerce is no longer a nice to have, it's a must have. When we think about GMV levels for Q4, we're ramping it down more so just to get things kind of back to closer to pre COVID levels by Q1 of next year.

But yes, we're definitely seeing the sign ups for merchants to get ahead of Q4 and we'll see how the GMV and transaction volumes hold up

Speaker 2

in Q4 versus Q4 last year where we saw a pretty

Speaker 4

big quarter in volumes in the holiday season back in 2019.

Speaker 10

Okay, thanks. And then maybe related to that, Kumar, just as we think about new customer growth since the beginning of the pandemic, you guys talked a lot about those that are kind of caught flat footed and coming on board and selling to different regions and that kind of thing. And that's driving a lot of the growth early on. Anything that you've seen over the past couple of months or as you get into 4Q in terms of cadence or maybe a peak in demand in terms of sign ups, maybe think some of that pull forward kind of playing out or continuing to see strength of businesses as new businesses come online and old businesses fold and all the mix up we're seeing in the economy today? Is there continuing to kind of be strength going forward, where we maybe haven't seen the peak in demand of new starts yet?

Speaker 3

I'd characterize it as our seeing strength relative to pre pandemic still in all segments, SMB, mid market and large enterprise. The fastest responding segment when the pandemic started was small business. The new sales skyrocketed and it's come down from its peak, but it's still trending in a way that is materially stronger than where it had been pre pandemic. What was slower to respond was call it upper mid market and large enterprise. And that's the part we see now picking up.

It's kind of hard for us to determine how much of that is an evolved pandemic response from larger, more complex companies and how much of it is instead for us the added tailwind or credibility we get by being public now, which that segment really cares about. Or the third factor is if you go back before May, that was before we had all of these incredibly favorable ratings from Gartner, Forrester, IDC and Paradigm B2B. We've now wrapped up a whole bunch

Speaker 10

of

Speaker 3

very, very strong reviews and larger enterprises that into their decision making and that may also be helping to drive the further acceleration at the upper end of the market we serve.

Speaker 10

All right. That last point is pretty interesting the way those reviews can help drive demand. Thanks. I appreciate the answers.

Speaker 1

Thanks. Thank you. Our next question or comment comes from the line of Ken Wong from Guggenheim. Your line is open.

Speaker 6

Great. Thanks for taking my question, guys. I wanted to also focus on that enterprise account level. Obviously, you guys have seen a good amount of new activity there, some graduations from your installed base. Just wondering on that graduation side, how does the kind of the lag impact from PSR factor in going forward?

Just wondering like just how should we think about when the subscription line will see a more meaningful uptick or is that starting to already roll in?

Speaker 3

Starting roll in. I'll let you follow-up on this. There was just a pause there already, so I'll tackle It's already rolling in, but it's gradual because remember the way our adjustments work, whether it's on an SMB plan or it's on an enterprise plan, it's trailing 12 months that we look at. So if suddenly a business's sales spike relative to the past, Well, in the 1st month, you only have 1 month of a spike, but we're looking trailing 12 months. And will that 1 month spike push a business over a threshold as an SMB to upgrade them to a higher plan or does it take 2 or 3 months?

It all really depends where they were before relative to the breakpoint and, how big their spike was. So it's a gradual thing that will keep flowing through over time. Right? Anything you'd add?

Speaker 4

No, that was perfect, P. V.

Speaker 6

Great. Super helpful. And then second point, kind of with this really strong sales momentum that we are seeing, I guess, how should we think about the pace of sales and marketing going forward? Is that something that you expect to any kind of rough framework for how it should look relative to ARR growth or top line growth? What's a good way for us to think about that number?

Speaker 4

Are you talking about sales and marketing investments or just the splits of the revenue?

Speaker 6

Yes, the sales and marketing investments. I guess that's something that should I mean, you guys are looking for leverage, but is that something that will be maybe like half of ARR growth? Any just rough framework or should just expect it to increase? Just any color there would be great.

Speaker 4

Yes. I mean, we're happy with the leverage that we're delivering across sales and marketing. We did have periods where we invested in international expansion and go to market teams outside of the U. S. Clearly, with the results that we're seeing in EMEA and APAC, we're really excited about international.

We it's going to be a growth lever for our business for many, many years to come and there'll definitely be periods where we're going to invest where the demand is And we'll update you and our investors as we do that on a quarterly basis.

Speaker 11

Great.

Speaker 4

Thank you, guys.

Speaker 1

Thank you. I'm showing no additional questions in the queue at this time. I'd like to turn the conference back over to Mr. Brent Bellum, President, Chairman and CEO for any closing remarks.

Speaker 3

Just thanks everyone for joining us. We look forward to talking to you on our next call. Have a good one until then and a wonderful holiday season.

Speaker 1

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for participating in today's conference. This concludes the program. You may now disconnect. Everyone, have a wonderful day.

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