Status Update

Apr 16, 2020

Press Release

Welcome to the ConocoPhillips Market Update Call. My name is Hilda, and I will be your operator for today. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. Later, we will conduct a question and answer Please note that this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the call over to Ellen DeSanctis. Ellen, you may begin. Thank you, Hilda, and good morning to our listeners. Thanks for joining us today to discuss this morning's press release in which we described some further actions the company is taking in response to current market conditions. Recall, we announced an initial set of actions on March 18. Like then, we're hosting a call today to discuss our rationale behind these actions and to give you a chance to ask questions of our senior leaders. Our speakers today will be Ryan Lance, our Chairman and CEO Matt Fox, our Chief Operating Officer and Don Wallett, our Chief Financial Officer. We don't have any slides this morning, but we will post a replay of this call as soon as it's available. One ground rule today, this call will address only the items from today's press release. We will not address any first quarter items as those will be covered when we announce earnings on April 30. And then finally, we may make some forward looking statements in today's call. As always, please refer to our SEC filings for a description of the risks and uncertainties that could impact future performance. And with that, I'll turn the call over to Ryan. Thank you, Owen, and good morning. So earlier today, we announced a further set of actions that ConocoPhillips is taking in response to recent market conditions. I'll make some general comments about today's actions. Next, Matt will cover the capital and operating cost reductions and Don will cover the commercial and financial points, and then we'll go ahead and take your questions. As Ellen said, backing up, recall in mid March, we announced an initial set of actions to respond to the market downturn. At that time, we said we'd continue to monitor the market. We develop scenarios, test our plans against those scenarios. At the time, we purposely deployed only a portion of our flexibility until we had more clarity around how this downturn would progress. Well, it's clear that since March, COVID driven demand has continued to fall significantly. While there has been U. S. Industry activity cuts and some supply adjustments from OPEC Plus, it's not enough to balance the markets in the near term. We expect prices over the next several months that they will be weak and quite volatile. So we're taking actions that focus on near term flexibility while also preserving our ability to respond further in either an up or a down direction depending on the eventual timing and path of the recovery. We continue to take measured actions that are consistent with our market views, and we can take this approach because we entered the downturn in a strong relative with significant flexibility. So here's what we announced today. We're taking another $1,600,000,000 of 2020 capital cuts. Including the March reductions, we've now cut $2,300,000,000 of capital or roughly 35%, bringing our expected full year capital to $4,300,000,000 We're reducing operating expenses by about $600,000,000 or roughly 10% versus our initial 2020 guidance, and Matt will discuss both of these sections further. We're suspending our 2020 buybacks after completing about $725,000,000 of that program in the Q1. As we've said many times, we prefer to dollar cost average share repurchases and level load our capital programs through the cycles, but current prices are well outside our planning range, and we believe these are prudent levers to exercise in the circumstances. Cumulatively, including today's actions, we've announced over $5,000,000,000 of reductions in cash uses for 2020 versus our initial plans with additional remaining flexibility. You also saw in today's announcement that we are taking actions to curtail about 225,000 barrels a day of gross operated oil and bitumen production. That's an expectation for the month of May and includes actions in the Lower 48 in Canada. Don will discuss these actions in more detail. We are choosing to store our oil in the reservoirs instead of producing at the netback prices being offered. We are cutting back on the near term part of our plan and conserving in places where we have the most flexibility. We're balancing liquidity preservation with a goal to retain program and organizational capacity that would allow us to activity quickly when warranted, and we'll continue to monitor the markets closely. Now before I turn the call over to Matt, let me just say that our leadership team shares everybody's hopes for a swift resolution to the global COVID-nineteen situation. Within ConocoPhillips, we've been fortunate so far not having any significant direct impacts from the virus. I'm proud of how our organization has stepped up in the face of a big challenge and I appreciate our workforce, our contractors, our partners, our community stakeholders and our investors for their support during this extraordinary time. So now let me turn the call over to Matt to discuss the capital and operating cost items we announced today. Thanks, Ryan, and good morning, everyone. As Ryan said, today's actions exercise additional flexibility we have across our global portfolio. The $1,600,000,000 of incremental capital reductions will come predominantly from the Lower 48 Alaska and Canada segments. I'll step through those sources briefly. In mid March, we announced plans to slow operated development activity in the Lower forty eight and anticipated some reduction from non operated activity. That was about $400,000,000 of the cuts announced at that time. With today's actions, we're adjusting the Lower 48 to 2020 capital by roughly another $1,000,000,000 including some further reductions in non operated Capstone. So that's a total reduction of $1,400,000,000 in the Lower 48. In terms of operated Big 3 activity, this takes our 13 rigs down to 7 and our frac crews from 5 down to 0. And this action is designed to satisfy 3 objectives: preserve significant cash, avoid bringing additional production volumes online and to weak near term prices, and maintain flexibility to ramp back up or ramp down further depending on the eventual timing and path of the recovery. Because the frac phase of a well typically costs twice that of drilling, yet only takes half the time, Stopping completions while continuing some drilling was the most rational thing to do in support of all three objectives. So, we'll get down to 4 rigs running in Eagle Ford, 2 in Bakken and 1 in the Permian. In Alaska, we announced the capital reduction of $200,000,000 in March and today we're cutting another $200,000,000 so $400,000,000 of cuts in total. Most of our flexibility in Alaska resides in our development drilling programs. As of this week, we will have shut down our traditional anti coiled tubing drilling activity and we've elected not to start up the extended reach drilling rig we mobilized to the North Slope last year. In addition to minimize the risk of COVID cases on the remote Western North Slope, we also ended our winter exploration program early. In Canada, we're cutting about $200,000,000 of capital, mostly driven by the peril of the next phase of Montney development. The first phase of that is going well, but we have discretion to straw drilling and the process and facility expansion. So that's what we're doing. You saw in this morning's release that we expect to voluntarily reduce production at Cermon by about 75% due to very weak WCS prices and low netbacks. As a result, the need for sustaining wells is deferred. So we're also suspending sustaining capital programs in the Surmont area. Finally, we'll make more modest changes outside North America and we'll get some help from foreign exchange rates from the foreigner stronger dollar. So that describes the sources of the $1,600,000,000 capital reduction announced today for about $2,300,000,000 in total for the year. We also announced a roughly 10% reduction in operating costs of $600,000,000 versus our original guidance. These reductions are sourced from a combination of lower lease operating expenses, G and A costs and foreign exchange rate changes. Importantly, like capital, we're not taking any operating expense actions that would undermine our health and safety priorities, jeopardize asset integrity or significantly impact our ability to resume programs in the future. Now clearly, the capital and operating cost reductions will impact the 2020 production rate. Our expectation is that these reductions alone would have resulted in roughly flat average production from 2019 to 2020, But that impact will be overshadowed by the voluntary and potential involuntary production curtailments we're likely to see. So we're not providing updated guidance today on production or in any of our other typical guidance items. And with the overall reductions in capital and operating costs this year and using the sensitivities and differentials provided in November, the WTI price required to cover capital in 2020 is reduced from about $40 a barrel to about $32 a barrel. And in fact, the remaining capital run rate results in a free cash flow price below $30 WPI for the remainder of the year. So now I'll turn the call over to Don for some further comments on our commercial and financial actions. Thank you, Matt. I want to begin by providing some additional color on the production deferral actions we're taking in Canada and in the Lower 48. By the way, we're referring to these reductions in production as deferrals because we aren't taking actions that we would expect would impair ultimate recovery from the reservoirs. The market typically thinks about maintaining productive capacity by drilling new wells. Curtailing production serves the same purpose, but specifically retains profitable productive capacity. We think of deferrals in 3 buckets. 1st, there are involuntary deferrals. That's where circumstances such as government mandates or the lack of market access force us to shut in production. As you can appreciate, we, like the rest of industry, could see involuntary curtailments within the U. S. And internationally under current market conditions. Then there are voluntary deferrals, and there are 2 types of these. 1 is the case where we would curtail because netback prices are less than the variable cost of operating an asset. This is what we're doing now by turning down production at Surmont. WTI prices are low, the basis differentials to WCS are high and the value of a Surmont barrel is below variable cost. This is a pretty straightforward deferral decision and will turn down Surmont volumes to the lowest sustainable level without compromising the reservoir. The other voluntary deferral is not as straightforward. This is a case where subject to legal and contractual obligations, we can choose to curtail because there is an economic case for producing the barrel later rather than now, where the netback price today simply represents inadequate value to produce. This is the case for our Lower forty eight production deferral. We expect the upcoming months of May June to be particularly weak for domestic pricing with netbacks being significantly lower than the marker prices. So we're planning to reduce oil production across our Lower forty eight portfolio by about 125,000 barrels a day gross during May. We expect volume reductions in each of our big three basins. Combined with Canada Surmont and North America curtailments will total about 225,000 barrels a day of oil and bitumen gross for the month of May, which on a net BOE basis equates to roughly 200,000 barrels a day. Trading for June deliveries in the U. S. Begins in earnest next week and we're expecting continued weakness. We'll have greater flexibility to curtail in June, so we could see even greater volume reductions then. As we go forward, we'll make production deferral elections on a month by month basis. Our voluntary curtailment elections are currently focused on North America, where we largely control the barrels and do not require partner or government consents to defer. We view these as value preservation decisions that forego suboptimal cash flows now in anticipation of higher value later. And those opportunities are available to us because of the combination of a large diverse portfolio and a strong balance sheet. Let me wrap up my prepared comments with a few additional comments about our financial strength. As you know, we entered this downturn with a very strong liquidity position with over $8,000,000,000 of cash and equivalents and a $6,000,000,000 corporate revolver that has no financial covenants. We believe we're very well positioned from a balance sheet perspective to weather a truly extraordinary situation. Coming into the downturn with a strong balance sheet plus significant cash and liquidity gives us the ability to take measured actions in response to this downturn. As Ryan said at the outset, we believe today's actions respond appropriately to our evolving view of the market, but also preserve flexibility to respond further, up or down, as conditions change. Now I'll turn the call over to the operator for Q and A. Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. We have a question from Neil Mehta from Goldman Sachs. Hi. This is Emily Chang on behalf of Neil, who just had his second child yesterday. Thanks very much for the time, guys. My first question is around the production that is being ramped down in May, both in the Lower forty 8 in Canada. Perhaps can you give us a sense of what the level of confidence you have in bringing that production back online to full capacity when what the timing is right there, perhaps from a geology or an engineering point of view, please? Emily, so you're asking about our ability to bring the production back, how confident we are in that? Is that what you're asking? Yes, sure. Yes, very confident. We don't we're not going to shut in anywhere where we see any risk to reservoir damage or anything that's going to impair our ability to bring it back. You can see in Surmont, for example, we're taking the base, as Don said, down to the lowest level that we can, while still providing enough heat and pressure to the reservoir and so that we don't damage the reservoir. The rest of the ferros are in the unconventional reservoirs, and we don't expect any issues there at all. In fact, we expect to see quite significant flush production when those wells come back on. So no issues. Great. Thanks. And my second question is just around Alaska. ANS pricing has obviously been quite weak recently. Are you thinking about production cuts from that region as well? And with the capital cuts that you're seeing, what does this mean for growth in the region going forward? Thank you. Emily, this is Don. I'll respond to the ANS question, the Alaska production. And yes, Alaska is in the mix as far as the places that we would consider curtailing at least the portion that we operate on the Western North Slope. But as we look at May netback pricing, Alaska is sold a little bit further forward than Lower forty eight is, and so the pricing is still acceptable to us. So we don't plan to curtail Alaska in May. And as far as future production projections, we're not going to be in a position to provide that with all the uncertainty that we're under. We have another question is from Phil Gresh from JPMorgan. Hi, good morning and thanks as always for hosting a call on this. My first question, I just wanted to clarify Matt's commentary around the breakevens. Could you reiterate that is that's on a WTI basis and that's to cover the dividend full net? Is that a run rate comment like 2Q moving forward? Just want to make sure I understood what you meant on those breakevens. Hello? Hello, Matt. I don't think we're unable. Okay. Sorry, Phil. I was making the classic blunder of being on mute while I was chatting. The like starting a land war in Asia, classic blunder. Anyway, the yes, what I was referring to was the WTI price required to cover our capital. Originally, the beginning of the year with our original capital guidance, that was around $40 WTI for the year. Now it's $32 with the new capital guidance. That's the average for the year. Then also refer to on a point forward basis, the run rate that we'll have through the average through the next three quarters is actually below $30 WTI to cover that run rate. Is that clear? Yes, yes, very clear. And any additional go ahead. Yes, sorry, Phil, that's Ryan. And that does yes, so that's just to cover the capital program. It would take $6, $7 additional to cover both the capital and the dividend. Yes, yes. Okay. Second question is any, I guess, color on these curtailments that we should think about by asset is particularly in the Lower 48? Phil, we're not going to provide a field by field breakdown of the curtailments, at least as far as these estimates for May. Of course, you'll see the actuals when they get published. But I can say that for each they'll be across each of the big three as well as Permian conventional, and there'll be significant in each. Okay. Last quick one. Could you give an update on the Australia West timing? Is that still on track for the first half of this year or any updates you can provide? Thanks. Yes. Both we and the buyer remain committed to the sale. We'll continue to make progress and we expect it to close in the Q2. Thank you. Our next question comes from Roger Read from Wells Fargo. Hey, good morning. Hopefully everybody can hear me. Yes, we hear you, Roger. Thanks. Okay, great. I guess one of the things I'd like to follow-up on is we think about, as you mentioned, greater flexibility in June on some of these shut ins. How much of this is driven by partner issues? Or as the operator, you essentially have the flexibility, I guess, would be the right term to do shut ins as you see necessary? Yes, Roger, these are largely operated by ConocoPhillips and we own them 100%. So these are actions that were taken that we can control. I could also add, Roger, that we're only referring to ConocoPhillips operated production here. We really have no insight as to what some of our non operated operators may be choosing to do. So we could see curtailments on properties that we don't operate, but participate with a working interest. Could you give us an idea of a breakdown within Lower 48 of operated versus non op then just to kind of help us think about some of the moving parts in the future? Yes. Generally, we're close to 100% operated in the Eagle Ford and most of the Permian unconventional was the Bakken. That's where we have significant operated production by other operators. It was about 40 percent of the Bakken as I recall. Okay, great. Thanks. And then last question I had for you just because a lot of your descriptions have been in oil term. Should we think of this as oil equivalent or are we thinking about this as oil only? So when I think about the 200,000 net, do I need to assume an NGL of gas impact there as well? Well, Roger, the 200,000 was a barrel oil equivalent figure and that was a net BOE figure. I don't have a breakdown by component on that. Thank you. Our next question comes from Doug Leggate from Bank of America. Thanks. Let me add my thanks to you guys offering some clarity amongst all the fog that we're dealing with right now. So just two quick questions. I guess the big picture question, Ryan, is when you say you're not going to provide any additional guidance items at this time, does that mean that we need to kind of reset the 10 year plan? Not necessarily, Doug. I think certainly the near term part of the plan, we're taking some actions to reduce that, but we're maintaining the flexibility, as we said, both organizationally and where we're making the reductions that we're taking to return to that scope that we described in the 10 year plan. So certainly some near term impacts, but no, our intent is if wind prices recover back to a reasonable level, we would get back on to that plan. Okay. Thank you. Matt, forgive me for being dense, but can you just spell out for us what is the run rate CapEx in the second half? And if I may do a Part B to that, the OpEx reductions that you mentioned, should we think of that as sustainable or those costs go back up again when oil prices rebound? And I'll leave it there. Thanks. Yes, Doug. Yes, what I was referring to on the run rate for capital was, if you take the $4,300,000,000 of operating plan capital on average of the year that we're now planning, and if you assume that it's roughly $1,600,000,000 was spent in the Q1, just as that's in line with the guidance that we gave at the beginning of the year, then that would give you $2,700,000 remaining, which is on average $900,000,000 a quarter. So that was what the basis was. So that's a run rate equivalent of $3,600,000 for the year, which is pretty close to our sustaining capital level, you'll remember. And so that's the number, that's the basis that I use to calculate the less than $30 free cash flow price required to cover that capital for the remainder of the year. In terms of the operating cost, some of these reductions that we would not anticipate maintaining in a higher oil price environment. For example, we're going to slow down well work and workovers. We're going to accept lower operating efficiencies in a lower oil price environment. In a higher price environment, we would want to get back to producing our optimum capacity for the higher price environment. So I wouldn't see these as sustainable operating cost reductions. They're really done in response to the current circumstances. Our next question comes from Josh Silverstein from Wolfe Research. Thanks. Good morning, guys. Just a question on the supply curtailments. What's the decision or the key drivers that go into decision making to bring volumes back online? Is it simply having a buyer or price? What are the 2 or 3 variables that go into this decision? Yes, Josh, I would say that the key variables, we're not going to we'd like to be transparent, but we don't like being very transparent about how we think about pricing. We're in the market every day buying and selling petroleum. But, yes, I'd say the key variables are maybe the obvious ones. They're going to be what's the available price for us to sell on that day and what's our view of future prices. And the bigger the gap there, then the more willing we'll be to or the smaller the gap, the more willing we'll be to sell Got it. Thanks for that. And then Matt, you had mentioned still running some rigs on the backside of this, I'm guessing building up some backlog here. Is the thought at least right now to try to have kind of a stabilized Lower 48 production base on the backside of this? Are you even thinking about trying to set up the asset base to the Lower 48 base to grow for 2022 again? How you're just trying to think about that setting up for the future right now? Josh, we're not really focusing on sustaining flat production in any particular area. As I said earlier, we're down roughly to a sustaining capital level on a run rate basis, But that doesn't necessarily mean to be sustained in any individual segment. We are going to be building some DUCs obviously as we go through the remainder of the year. And that gives us the flexibility if we choose to ramp up production relatively quickly or not. We could just complete those wells at a regular pace. So we haven't really decided yet because market conditions will give us a guide as to what makes the most sense to do as we start to move out of this lower price environment. Great. Thanks, guys. We have a question from Alastair Syme from Citi. Hi, everyone. Can you just explain to me some of the pet fish ground curtailing or shutting in the lower forty eight. Are you choking back on individual wells? Or are you shutting in entirely? And then sort of what happens as you go and do you need to start to cycle some of those inventory around for reservoir reasons? Well, Alistair, thanks. Yes, no, we've got a pretty specific set of protocols that we're using in the Lower 48. So we've identified the wells we can shut in that we think can come back relatively quickly. And as Don and both Matt have said, we didn't want to reduce the productive capacity that we have to return production and even expect flush production as we turn them back on. So it should come back relatively quickly. And you could leave that shut in for a month or so or would it is there a month? Certainly, the unconvention of that, absolutely. Yes. No, we're not time bound driven. We have to probably, for contractual reasons, rotate things around a little bit to make sure we're still holding things in good stead on our leases, but that's all quite manageable. That's helpful color. Thank you. We have a question from Paul Sinski from Mizuho Securities. Hi, good morning, everyone. I hope you're all well. Good morning, Paul. Could you talk a little bit about hi, I guess. Are you storing a lot of oil? And can you talk a bit about any pipeline commitments or impacts on pipeline commitments you may have? And the original question was just, are you placing all your oil or are you building up inventory here? Thanks. Paul, we're not storing a significant amount of oil above ground. We prefer to avoid the you've got the cost of transporting the oil to the storage facility, the storage fees themselves, the cost of getting it back out, transporting it back to customers. And so we're choosing to store our oil in the field in the reservoir instead. And as far as pipeline commitments, yes, we have pipeline commitments. I'm not going to get into all the details, but we believe that we can manage around that. We have a quite capable commercial organization that's able to backfill volumes that we don't flow. And so we don't expect significant costs associated with those commitments. Thanks. And then the theme of your analyst meeting was lowest cost production. Can you sort of at a macro level characterize where you think you sit relative to the U. S. Industry here? Do you feel that the industry is being slow to shut down production? What are you seeing competitively around the place in terms of how you would expect the industry to respond to this crisis? And the extent to which you're ahead of that curve, I guess, is what I'm driving at. Thank you. Yes. I think, Paul, I would expect you're going to see a lot more of this. I think as Don described, there's probably some involuntary actions coming as crude. Whether you're inland or on the water, it's not going to matter as these inventories reach tank tops. So I think our ability to maybe go a little bit earlier on this is, I think, evidenced by our strong balance sheet and the flexibility that we had coming into this downturn and the capability that we've got as a company. And we're just not going to sell our crude for these kinds of prices and think as the COVID situation works itself the economies here in the U. S. And globally that demand will start to return and there's better prices in the future for us. So we're just not going to choose to sell our oil at these kinds of netbacks. And maybe some people can do that, some maybe not because a dollar cash flow is going to be what they need because they don't sit in the same sort of financial position that we are as a company. But I think generally across the industry, we're going to see more of this as we go forward. We have a question from Scott Hanold from RBC Capital Markets. Mr. Henold, your line is open. Yes, thanks. I apologize. My line has been going in and out. So if I have missed, I may be asking a repeat question. If I do, just let me know. When you step back and look at your decisions to reduce mostly in the North American area versus internationally, Does that indicate that there's a bit of higher sensitivity to pricing in the North America versus internationally? Or is it just primarily focused on where you operate and where you don't? Scott, yes, I think, we mentioned, we're going to be taking a look at this on a month by month basis. And so we're focused on May right now. And the prices that we're seeing internationally are a little better from a netback standpoint. So even if we had complete control over our international assets, we probably would not choose to curtail. A lot of the places where we operate, it's the governments that are making those decisions on a national basis. So we may see actions in some places where we operate internationally. But for now, we're focused on where we can control the decision and control the barrels, and that's in North America. Okay, understood. And then my follow-up is, one quick piece and Matt, you made a comment about, I think and again, I apologize my line just went out when you're saying that, but based on your new capital spending plan that it's pretty much on a relative basis at maintenance mode, obviously ex procurements. I think you indicated that. Is that correct? And then also if you could make a comment on if you think the U. S. Should do proration as being discussed in Texas and maybe Oklahoma right now? So I'll take the first part of that and then hand over to some of the more political question to Ryan. But the I think what you were asking, Scott, and I broke up a little bit, was for me to confirm that I said that this absent any curtailment, we would be roughly flat from 2019 to 2020. So if that was the question, and I'm sorry, I didn't hear it clearly, then I can confirm, yes, that's roughly what we'd expect, absent any curtailment effects. And the although we're not giving any definitive guidance going forward, because there's just so many uncertainties. But directionally, that's the implication of the capital and operating cost reductions for production. Yes. And Scott, on the second piece, we didn't support the action that the Texas Railroad Commission was hearing in terms of forced curtailments across industries or across all of Texas. We think the market is working and will work and we're going to see probably more of what we've been talking about today in terms of deferrals coming, whether they're involuntary or voluntary with the way everybody saw what the inventory build was last week and we expect that to continue and like most people are predicting, we'll reach inventory fill sometime in May and the markets are going to make this happen. Thank you. Our next question comes from Bob Brackett from Bernstein Research. Good morning. A number of my questions have been asked, so I'll ask a somewhat wonky question on Surmont. So what is the process of shutting in a SAG D? Are you shutting in phases? Are you shutting in pads? How do I think about the steam oil ratio? Are you still injecting sort of 3 units of steam for every unit of oil? And finally, what's that sort of split between, call it, fixed OpEx and variable OpEx for that operation? Yes, Bob, maybe I'll take that. Yes, in somewhat because it's a SAGD operation, some of the pads, some of the well peers will require continued steam to maintain the temperature and the pressure. And some of them, for example, have overlying water and you want to make sure that you're holding that overlying water back by continuing to put steam in the steam chambers. Some of the steam chambers that are less mature have less overall heat in them, therefore require a bit more heat to stop the water from condensing. So basically, what we can do or our guys in Canada can do is they can basically move from well to well and make sure that they're managing that such that we don't have any flooding of the injectors by water that's condensing. So it's an active process, an active management process. And the 35,000 barrels a day gross that we've come down to, we think is the minimum that we need to maintain production. In terms of variable operating costs, in Surmont, the variable operating cost is roughly $4 a barrel. Mostly gas cost. And what would the fixed OpEx per barrel be then? So the I don't have the fixed OpEx off the top of my head. Actually, we've been looking at the variable recently. So I can't give you that number right now. Okay. Appreciate the technical and economic details. You're welcome. We have a question from Ryan Todd from Simmons Energy. Great, thanks. Maybe a follow-up on the previous question on Surmont. As you think about the eventual ramp up in production on the other side of this, how much does time of shut in have an impact on the eventual will you potentially have to go through to get things ramped up there? We'll be able to ramp up relatively quickly. Within a month or so, we should be able to get ourselves back up to the earlier operating conditions. We have I mean we have experienced some unplanned significant shutdowns in some of those oil sands producers do because of the occasional wildfires that passed through there. So we do have a flexible enough plant and then the operators that are experienced in bringing these back on. And So we don't anticipate a long lag from to get back to full production when we when the market conditions are right for that. Okay. That's helpful. And then maybe as a follow-up, I appreciate all of the clarity and some of the drivers that you provided for us in terms of the curtailments. I guess as we as I think about the volumes that are being curtailed in the lower 48,000 to 125,000 barrels a day, how is there an operational driver behind that number? I mean, why 125,000 versus 150,000 or 75,000 is or is that like a preemptive number that you would hope to avoid involuntary curtailments in the future? I guess anything more in terms of, I guess, maybe your ability to cut further why that number? Ryan, I can give you some additional color around that, I guess. As we trading for May deliveries begins in or began in the second half of March and we began trading oil entering into contracts for deliveries in May back then. And I wouldn't say that prices were good, but they were tolerable. And then as we moved in further into the trade month, prices continued to deteriorate rather rapidly. So by the time you got to April, the prices we were seeing were just not acceptable to us. So as far as the $125,000,000 for May, a lot of it has to do with how much volume we had committed when prices were acceptable to us and how much remained unsold when prices fell below our tolerance point, I guess. And I guess that's why June barrels, there may be more deferral as you said, Don, in your prepared remarks. Right. Our next question comes from Michael Hall from Heikkinen Energy. Thanks very much. Good morning. Hope everybody's staying safe and sound. I guess I just wanted to we've hit a little bit on the kind of thought process or sensitivities and approach to thinking about bringing back the deferrals, but on the volume side, but I was curious on the completion side, you dropped to 0 frac crews. Is it assumed within the current capital budget that that remains at 0 through the course of the rest of the year? Or do you assume you'll bring some completions back by year end with the current round of the capital budget? It essentially assumes that we won't bring the completion crews back this year. I think we maybe assume that we will gradually ramp in towards the end of the year, but to all intents and purposes, you can assume that the completion crews are not coming back this year. Obviously, we have the flexibility to change that if circumstances change, but that's the essence of the probably our current capital estimate. Okay. That's helpful. And then I'm curious too on the production deferral side. Obviously it sounds like certainly on average the lower 48 impacts are of the voluntary and non, let's say, operating cost driven sort. Are there any areas within the Lower forty eight? Specifically, I'm thinking about the Delaware Basin, where I'm assuming you have some exposure to WTL pricing. Are there any areas there that we're not covering operating costs and hence more similar to that first bucket of the voluntary curtailment that you talked about? And then similarly, are there any API discounts that you're seeing in the Eagle Ford or anywhere else within the portfolio? Michael, again, we're talking specifically about our outlook for pricing in May. And for each of our big three basins, our cash operating costs are a good bit lower than the netback pricing that we see that's available. So this isn't a case where we're curtailing because we're not covering either variable or total cash cost. We could do that and clear that by a margin. We're just simply not accepting the netback prices that we're seeing. It's not profitable enough for us. Okay. And I guess just are you seeing any high gravity discounts in areas like the Eagle Ford or Delaware or anywhere else in the portfolio? Everywhere where we're producing condensate, we're seeing high gravity discounts, yes. At this moment, we show no further questions. I would like to turn the call back to Ellen for final remarks. Thanks, everybody, and stay safe and stay well. And we'll be announcing earnings at the end of the month, and we'll give you more information as we know it at that time. Thank you. Thank you.