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Earnings Call: Q2 2019

Feb 21, 2019

Operator

Good day, everyone. Welcome to the Copart, Inc. second quarter fiscal 2019 earnings call. Just a reminder, today's conference is being recorded. For opening remarks and introduction, I would like to turn the call over to Mr. Jay Adair, Chief Executive Officer of Copart, Inc. Please go ahead, sir.

Jay Adair
CEO, Copart

Thank you. Good morning, everyone. Welcome to the second quarter call for Copart. On the call with me today is Jeff Liaw, CFO, and Will Franklin, Executive Vice President. I'm going to turn it over to Jeff Liaw for opening comments. Then Will Franklin will give us an update on operations. Then we'll be happy to answer any questions that we have at that time. All right, thanks so much. Jeff?

Jeff Liaw
CFO, Copart

Thanks, Jay. I'll start with the safe harbor. During today's call, we'll discuss certain non-GAAP measures, including non-GAAP net income per diluted share, which include adjustments to report the effects of disposal of non-operating assets, foreign currency-related gains and losses, the impact of income taxes on the deemed repatriation of foreign earnings, net of deferred tax changes, and certain income tax benefit related to accounting for stock option exercises. We've provided a reconciliation of these non-GAAP financial measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measures on our website under the Investor Relations link and in our press release issued yesterday afternoon. We believe the presentation of these non-GAAP measures, together with their corresponding GAAP measures, is relevant in assessing Copart's business trends and financial performance. We analyze our results on both a GAAP and non-GAAP basis, as described above.

In addition, this call contains forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities laws, which are subject to substantial risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those predicted or implied by our statements herein. We do not undertake to update any forward-looking statements that may be made from time to time on our behalf. For a more complete discussion of the risks that could affect our business, please review the management's discussion and analysis portions in our related periodic reports filed with the SEC. I'll turn our attention to the second quarter of our fiscal 2019. We're pleased with our operating results. I'll start also with a reminder that the first six months of fiscal 2018 were distorted by Hurricane Harvey. Over those first two quarters of fiscal 2018, we incurred losses of nearly $10 million on an operating basis.

Cue to an isolation that would reflect a gain if the first quarter of 2018 disproportionately captures storm-related costs, while the second quarter would disproportionately capture storm-related revenue. Will, I'll make it a point that over the course of this call to communicate our key metrics with and without the effects of Hurricane Harvey. We achieved a record second quarter in revenue, gross profits and operating income, starting with our nominal global revenue growth of 5.6%. With an unfavorable year-over-year currency effect of about $4.9 million from foreign operations, primarily due to the relative strength of the dollar in comparison to the pound and the Brazilian real. Excluding the effects of Hurricane Harvey, our revenue growth was 17% even. Our global service revenue growth was 3.7% year-over-year, and again, excluding Hurricane Harvey, was 13.7%.

We typically suggest looking to service revenue and service revenue growth as a more accurate indicator of underlying business activity. Our purchased car growth of 19.1% year-over-year, driven largely by our international businesses, split approximately equally between the U.K. and Germany. A quick reminder that our Copart-owned inventory remains relatively small at $28.3 million at quarter end, which is small in the context, of course, of the overall business. Turning to unit sales, our nominal global units declined slightly at 0.6% year-over-year, with a slight U.S. unit decline of 3.7% and international unit growth of 18.7%. Again, excluding Hurricane Harvey, our global unit sales grew at 7.7%. U.S. units grew 5.7%. Excluding Harvey and charity volumes from that U.S. number, our volume grew 7.5% year-over-year.

Our U.S. unit growth was driven by both our insurance and non-insurance segments, which Will will describe in greater detail in a few minutes. Turning to inventory, our nominal global inventory grew at 6.6% year-over-year. Excluding the effect of Hurricane Harvey, our inventory grew at 7.7%. For the quarter, our gross profits grew 8.7% year-over-year excluding Harvey. That same number would be 13.6% year-over-year growth. Our gross margin rates increased from 41.7% a year ago to 42.9% this year, so approximately 126 points lift. Excluding the effects of Harvey, our gross margin compressed slightly, approximately 1%, which is explained almost entirely by the slight mix shift to purchase car revenue. Our average selling prices for vehicles at Copart auctions in the United States, excluding Hurricane Harvey, grew 16.1% year-over-year. Pardon me, 15.4% year-over-year.

That compares to 16.1% growth a year ago. 15.4% this year and 16.1% a year ago for the same quarter. Will, again, will provide more context on this phenomenon, a reflection both of the type of cars that are consigned to Copart, as well as the expansion and marketing efforts that we pursue with our Copart member base. Turning to our general and administrative expenditures, excluding stock compensation and depreciation, were up from $29.7 million a year ago to $33.2 million this year. They went down $1.6 million sequentially versus the first quarter of 2019. Repeating a mantra you've heard before, in general, G&A expenditure will vary from quarter to quarter and will grow over time with inflation and complexity. We continue to believe we can achieve operating leverage even with the top line growth we've experienced. Our GAAP operating income growth was 9.1% for the quarter, excluding Hurricane Harvey.

That same operating income would have grown at 15.5%. Our net interest expense, you can see, is down slightly year-over-year, given our lower average net debt balance. Our other income of $4.8 million is largely a gain on sale of an asset, specifically a now replaced data center. You also see that adjusted out in our non-GAAP reconciliation. Our second quarter income tax rate was 20.4%, a reflection of the lower U.S. federal tax rate that we discussed on prior calls, as well as one-time benefits from stock option exercises, which we again reflect in the non-GAAP presentation. Our GAAP net income increased from $103.3 million a year ago to $131.4 million this year for the second quarter, an increase of 27.2% year-over-year. On a non-GAAP basis, our net income grew 11.5% year-over-year.

Excluding the effects of Hurricane Harvey and including an assumption for tax rates, that same growth rate would be ±18% for non-GAAP net income year-over-year. The non-GAAP schedule, we've already talked about the major adjustments on that page for the second quarter for this year, which include both the disposal of non-operating assets as well as the excess tax deduction for stock option exercises. I'll just quickly remind folks that the major adjustment for last year for the second quarter was a $10 million adjustment as a one-time transition tax charge as a reflection of the tax reform effect in that quarter. I'll turn our attention briefly to Germany before coming back to the balance sheet and cash flow.

We encourage folks, for further background, to review the transcript of our first quarter earnings call, where we described in much greater detail the nature of the market and our efforts there, and it represented a one-time deep dive, so to speak, into the business. As a quick substantive update, we now have 12 locations up and running in pursuit of the critical footprint across the country. At Copart Germany, we're now running daily auctions across those locations, but the strong majority of our volume sold for buyers outside of Germany. We think that reflects the power of the Copart brand name, our buyer network and technology platform, and frankly, it's a strong testament to the inefficiency of the current market model for total losses in Germany. Our unit sales in Copart Germany are approximately eight times the same volume for a year ago for the second quarter.

We also continue to demonstrate our ability to purchase cars through Rep Online, a listing service that we own, and to sell them at a positive margin at Copart Germany auctions. As you know, we also continue our dialogue in parallel with insurance carriers in Germany and believe that a Copart model akin to what we have in the U.S. and in the U.K. is ultimately the right answer for that market as well for a host of reasons, including both total loss and claims costs to the carriers, as well as the claims experience for policyholders. Turning to the balance sheet and the cash flow statement, our operating cash flow for the quarter was $4.4 million. About 60% of the CapEx is attributable to capacity expansion and lease buyouts, with the balance attributable to maintenance and other activities.

We also purchased 7.6 million shares of Copart stock in the open market at a weighted average price just below $48, for total outlays of approximately $365 million. We funded these purchases with cash on hand and a revolver draw of $93 million. As reflected at the end of the quarter, we still have available liquidity of more than $760 million. With that, I'll turn the call over to EVP Will Franklin.

Will Franklin
EVP, Copart

Thank you, Jeff. Let me provide a few more comments about our operational performance for the second quarter. Copart once again delivered another strong quarter. Our U.S. volume, when adjusted for the Harvey activity the same quarter last year, grew by 5.7%. Volume growth continues to be driven by organic growth and market wins within the insurance market and a continued expansion into the non-insurance markets. Organic growth in the salvage market is driven, we believe, by an increase in total loss frequency as higher repair costs and our elevated auction returns are leading to a higher percentage of claims resulting in an economic total loss. The growth in our auction returns has significantly outpaced the growth in used car values. Using January 2016 as a baseline, the Manheim Used Vehicle Value Index has grown 8.4%.

Using the same baseline, ASPs we are generating at our U.S. auctions for only insurance cars has grown by 35%. While the rest of the industry is quickly moving towards the digital remarketing convention, we have been completely digital since 2003, when we introduced our VB2 platform. We've continually improved our auction platform, now VB3, over the last 16 years, and it's commonly recognized as the standard in the industry. The efficiency of VB3. Our elevated marketing focus on international buyers has led to significant growth in bidding activity from those buyers. Our full U.S. website is now translated into seven languages. In addition, we have elements of our website that accommodate languages native to 135 countries. Currently, we sell from the U.S. into 147 countries.

In the quarter, 38.4% of all U.S. units sold were to international buyers, and 46.9% of the value of the units sold were to international buyers. In total, over 70% of all the vehicles sold on our U.S. website received at least one bid from an international buyer. Our marketing efforts have two goals: to bring more buyers to our auctions and to get those who attend to place more bids. We've been successful in both efforts. The number of unique bidders was up 13%, and the number of bids received per lot sold was up 8%. Breaking down the growth in unique bidders further, we saw an 11% increase in domestic bidders and a 22% increase in the international unique bidders. Growth in our ASPs has been the primary driver in a 6.4% increase in the U.S. revenue per car.

Also contributing to that growth are the additional services we're providing to both the buyers and the sellers. The non-insurance markets continue to be a focus of growth in our U.S. strategy. These markets include franchise independent dealers, finance and leasing companies, fleet, charity, equipment dealers, and wholesalers. Excluding the charity and municipality markets in the U.S., our non-insurance volume grew by almost 20% and by more than two. By more than 100% over the same quarter last year, or same quarter two years ago, respectively. The growth in volume was spread broadly across multiple power segments. Volume from dealers was up 14%, finance companies 24%, wholesalers 24%, rental car companies 62%, and fleets and industrial equipment were up 41%. We have successfully grown our non-insurance volumes as we develop better systems integration into fleets, banks, and dealerships.

We have developed sales and operational programs targeting individual segments. As we continue to increase the auction returns we're delivering to our non-insurance sellers. Turning to the U.K., we delivered another very strong quarter as we saw a growth in volume of 11.8%. In local currency, revenue and EBIT grew by 21.7% and 23%, respectively. The growth in volume came from increases in both insurance business, driven once again by market wins and organic growth, and growth in our non-insurance business as we grew our U.K. dealer volume. We also continue to see meaningful growth in both Brazil and Canada as the value we offer in terms of technology, processes, land, and people has allowed us to expand the market share in those countries. In Canada, we increased our volume and our local currency revenue by 8.4% and 21.5%, respectively.

In Brazil, our growth was even more remarkable, increasing our volume and our local currency revenue by 22% and 36.5%, respectively. Jeff has already provided commentary on Germany. With that, we note that our operations outside of the Americas, the U.K., and Germany for the quarter remain immaterial in both revenue and EBIT. Globally, we are seeing rising labor, health insurance, and sub-haul costs, all of which have led to an increase in our average cost to process each car. Our inventory was up in the U.S., internationally, and worldwide by 5.9%, 11.1%, and 6.6%, respectively. When adjusted for Harvey, the growth in the U.S., internationally, and worldwide was 7.2%, 11.1%, and 7.7%, respectively. The year-over-year growth in our U.S. inventory for the past eight quarters has averaged over 9%, and we expect this trend to continue.

To accommodate this growth and to provide standalone capacity along the Gulf of Mexico and the East Coast, we have engaged in a massive capacity expansion initiative. In the last three weeks alone, we've announced new yards in Harleyville, South Carolina, serving the Charleston area, Antelope, California, serving the North Bay, Sacramento areas, and Mooresville, North Carolina, serving the Charlotte area. In total, these three yards added over 114 acres of capacity. So far this fiscal year, we have announced 14 new facilities, four in the U.S., one each in Brazil and Canada, and eight in Germany. Currently, in the U.S., we have 17 expansion projects in the construction phase and 29 projects in the engineering phase. These 46 projects alone represent thousands of acres of capacity and will consume several hundreds of millions of dollars of capital.

That concludes my comments. Operator, I'll turn the call back over to you for the Q&A session.

Operator

Thank you. If you would like to ask a question, please signal by pressing star one on your telephone keypad. If you are using a speakerphone, please make sure your mute function is turned off to allow your signal to reach our conference. Again, press star one to ask a question. We'll pause for just a moment to allow everyone an opportunity to signal for questions. We'll take the first question from Robert Labick of CJS Securities.

Robert Labick
President, CJS Securities

Good morning. Thanks. Take my question.

Jay Adair
CEO, Copart

Good morning, Bob.

Robert Labick
President, CJS Securities

Morning.

One thing, a couple real quick questions on Germany and then one on the non-insurance group. Very impressive what you just talked about. Starting with Germany, obviously over the last six to 12 months, you've really accelerated your pace of rollout in your growth there. Can you talk about what has surprised you the most over the last six to 12 months during this kind of acceleration phase?

Jay Adair
CEO, Copart

I think the biggest surprise is just how well the team performed in terms of opening up so many yards so quickly. When we got there this summer and started looking at how we need a network. That's what's worked for us in the U.S., the U.K., and other markets, Brazil, Canada. If we have a stronger network, we have a better and easier ability to pick up cars quickly and provide our services. Really just the team's performance and ability to do that is probably the most surprising thing. Second, I would say, is just the amount of buyers that we've been able to bring in. Once we started to hold auctions, we're auctioning well over 500 cars a week now.

Once we started that process and had regular auctions available to the members, the marketing team has just done a really great job on getting our brand out there and cultivating buyers for our auctions. It's been very positive. We've talked about it in the past. I like Jeff's comments. Let us succeed and perform, we'll report on those results. We're very happy with what we see in Germany.

Robert Labick
President, CJS Securities

Okay, great. I know you want to succeed and perform first, just one more question, I'll move off it. I know you talked about potentially over the next several quarters flipping an insurance company to the U.S. style. Do you still believe that's possible or likely? If that doesn't happen over the next couple of quarters, what would be the reason that it wouldn't happen?

Jay Adair
CEO, Copart

I do think it's going to happen. The reason it will happen is associated with friction that you have today with the process. You're requiring the insured to hold the vehicle and then have some buyer come to their house and pick the vehicle up. There isn't an insurance company that I have met in Germany yet that isn't concerned with customer service and net promoter scores and giving the best possible brand experience that they can give. Obviously, when we send a uniformed driver in and pick the vehicle up, bring it to our location, then auction it, and the end buyer is picking up at our location, you don't have that touch with the buyer and the insured, and that can be a negative.

There could be a number of scenarios that I could outline for you where the buyer ends up wanting to have a conversation with the insured about the salvage, then clearly there's not an insurance company that wants that. A second reason is return. We're able to buy cars, as Jeff has mentioned on previous calls, we're able to buy cars basically through the platforms and then bring them over to our yards and auction them off and get a higher return. That is just very simple. You're allowing buyers from around the country and the world to bid on product that they know they're going to get. There's no contingency, there's no question. If they bid, they're going to own it. Whereas when they bid on the platforms, there's a less than 10% chance of knowing you're going to get the vehicle.

Even if they're high bidder, they may not get the vehicle because the insured may sell it somewhere else through a body shop or through the dealership rather than to the buyer. You're taking away that element of unknown and making it a sure guarantee that you're going to get the vehicle. You have the logistical component, and we've said this before, it should not be underestimated. When a buyer bids on something and has to pick it up and go to 3 different locations, 3 different insured homes, and pick that vehicle up within a certain amount of time frame, that adds a degree of difficulty.

Buyers can bid on 3 different Copart locations and buy half a dozen or a dozen vehicles, so they can get a lot more product, then they can take 3 weeks to pick it up, as opposed to having to get it out within 4 days. That's a consideration for the buyer as well. I don't have any doubt at this point that we're going to see continued traction in that market.

Robert Labick
President, CJS Securities

That was definitely helpful. Thank you. Just one last quick one. Obviously, you just discussed very impressive growth of non-insurance from dealers, finance, wholesalers, rental cars, et cetera. Who are the primary buyers of these? Are these the new unique bidders coming online? Just talk a little bit about the buyer base there, how it's maybe different than your core or if it is exactly the same.

Will Franklin
EVP, Copart

No, Bob, I think the profile of our buyer base changes constantly based on the products that we're offering.

You're seeing buyers that have an appetite for these different types of cars and even heavy equipment that we're offering. That just demonstrates the efficiency of our auction platform. We easily get those buyers, easily get to us and are able to view these cars.

Jeff Liaw
CFO, Copart

Well, I'd just add to that, I think both are true. We expand as the nature of the cars that we offer evolves, our buyer base expands further as well. It's also true that the existing buyer base is thirsty for the kind of cars that are offered by the dealers and consignors. Otherwise, by the way, they wouldn't come to us, right? As much as we'd like to say we're fantastic for independent dealers and so forth, they vote with their feet, and they vote as a reflection of the auction prices they achieve at Copart Auctions. I think it's a testament to the power of that buyer network that they're doing quite well and bringing more cars to Copart over time.

I think that also has a virtuous cyclical effect as well because then those newer or less damaged or non-damaged cars then bring further buyers into the network as well. I think it's a marketplace that continues to expand on both sides, buyers and sellers.

Robert Labick
President, CJS Securities

Great. Thanks very much.

Will Franklin
EVP, Copart

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. We'll take our next question from Craig Kennison of Baird.

Craig Kennison
Analyst, Baird

Thank you for taking my questions. Will, I wanted to start with you on the non-insurance business. Continue to see great growth there. Can you just provide examples of systems integration tools that you're using to drive your non-insurance volumes with dealers, fleet operators, or rental companies?

Will Franklin
EVP, Copart

Sure. Each of these segments tend to migrate to different platforms for their system operations. For example, the finance companies use a system called AutoIMS. The dealers use Dealertrack or Dealer Socket, a number of those other systems. The buyers seem to come to us from AuctionACCESS. It's extremely important for us to drive the integrations that are needed to reduce any friction that is caused by operating two different systems, our system and theirs. We have a few initiatives along the lines of creating those integrations. That's just part of it. It's not just the systems, it's the processes. For example, heavy equipment. Transportation of a piece of heavy equipment could cost $4,000 or $5,000, as opposed to well under $100 for an insurance company.

The filing process for charities, where you got to pick up the title when you pick up the car, it's a completely different filing processes for dealerships. Dealers are much more concerned and in need of after-auction services like [uncertain] and so on and on. Finance companies have rules that surround repossessions, even voluntary repossessions, which we have to provide special documentation and compliance. It's just not a matter of being integrated into their software system, it's being able to change our processes to accommodate their specific needs.

Craig Kennison
Analyst, Baird

That helps. To what extent is the growth fueled by new customers trying your services versus customers that you've already landed that are dramatically increasing the use of their service?

Will Franklin
EVP, Copart

It's both. We're seeing organic growth. We're seeing customers that we've had for years that we're contacting again. We're, like I said, eliminating the friction, whether it's systematic or process, encouraging them to send us cars. The returns that they're receiving have driven more and more volume. It's not one big thing. It's a combination of a lot of little things that we're doing internally.

Craig Kennison
Analyst, Baird

Got it. I also wanted to ask about the total loss rate trend in the U.S. and in Europe. Where do you think that loss rate is headed in 2019 and beyond? When you look at Europe, do you have any data to frame where the total loss rate is today and where that may be headed?

Jeff Liaw
CFO, Copart

All right, I'll comment on the first half of your question. As for total loss rate, I think this is, as you know, the one-way tailwind behind the business for the last four years. Cars, once they're in accidents, are ever more prone to being totaled than repaired. I think that's an unassailable macro factor that's really hard to read on a micro basis. Trying to forecast that quarter to quarter, even year to year, is tough. We do think the overwhelming forces at work here will drive it upward over time. There's no particular ceiling that we have in mind. I don't have a good point-in-time forecast view for 2019. As for Europe, the source is quite as exhaustive as what you see here in the U.S. Don't have a comparable number to share with you.

The U.K., as you know, is very different from Germany, for example, even in how they practice or how they handle total losses. No, we don't have any point estimates as precise as the major sources we have here in the U.S.

Craig Kennison
Analyst, Baird

Got it. Okay, thank you.

Will Franklin
EVP, Copart

Thanks, Craig.

Operator

Thank you. We'll take our next question from Bret Jordan of Jefferies.

Bret Jordan
Analyst, Jefferies

Hey, good morning, guys.

Will Franklin
EVP, Copart

Right.

Bret Jordan
Analyst, Jefferies

On the purchase car trend in Germany, is it possible to get the agency volumes up without flipping the insurance companies? In the sense that if the individual's still selling a car, once you have enough auction traffic, will they send you the car on consignment as opposed to you having to buy it?

Jay Adair
CEO, Copart

Right now we're acquiring cars so that we can hold auctions, so we're doing that through the platform. We do have some non-insurance volume coming in now as well. We're starting to process vehicles for companies that service the insurance industry as well as rental car companies. Currently, the strategy is to illustrate the benefits to the large insurers and then have them switch over to our model.

Bret Jordan
Analyst, Jefferies

Okay, great. Then on Will's comment around the real estate pipeline, could you put maybe some timeframe around those thousands of acres? Is that going to be a very large near-term acquisition of real estate, or is that 46 projects over a period of years?

Will Franklin
EVP, Copart

I think years is too long. I think within 24 months, the vast majority of all those 47 projects should be delivered.

Bret Jordan
Analyst, Jefferies

Okay, great. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. We'll take our next question from Gary Prestopino of Barrington Research.

Gary Prestopino
Analyst, Barrington Research

Hey. Good morning, everyone. Hey, Will, when you talked about the non-insurance, could you give the % breakdown of what % of vehicles were non-insurance this quarter versus last year? Or can you give that?

Will Franklin
EVP, Copart

Let's go to that one. Hello? Yeah. Do you have any other questions while we're gathering that information?

Gary Prestopino
Analyst, Barrington Research

Oh, certainly I do. In terms of the gross margin on the purchased vehicles, sequentially, it was down 200 basis points. Is that just an impact of more growth in Germany, or is that currency or what?

Jeff Liaw
CFO, Copart

It is a reflection in part of growth in Germany. It is largely not currency, because currency would affect both sides of that ledger, Gary, right? It's buy.

Gary Prestopino
Analyst, Barrington Research

Okay.

Jeff Liaw
CFO, Copart

Partially Germany, partially also that purchased cars mix can affect this as well. As the price, for example, can rise for certain purchased cars. We've talked about this before, the more a car bought and sold for a lower price, the dollar spread grows. You would not expect on a $10,000 car to make double the profit as you would on a $5,000 purchased car, for what it's worth.

Gary Prestopino
Analyst, Barrington Research

Okay. Lastly, I wanted to ask about the vehicle pooling costs. Year-over-year, they were up pretty dramatically. What would account for that?

Jeff Liaw
CFO, Copart

That's largely the effect of the accounting change, Gary. To make a long story short.

Gary Prestopino
Analyst, Barrington Research

Okay.

Jeff Liaw
CFO, Copart

Check the quarter transcript. I think you'll find a pretty robust discussion there of how the accounting now, for much more revenue. We used to pull more revenue forward. Now we push more back, which hangs more of it on the balance sheet, and the corresponding costs, which is why you see these up dramatically.

Gary Prestopino
Analyst, Barrington Research

Yeah. Okay. That would explain it. Lastly, Jeff, I got on the call late. I actually got booked into the wrong call. Could you give me some of those unit volume numbers that you generally discuss at the beginning of the call? Or unit volume changes or whatever?

Jeff Liaw
CFO, Copart

Yeah, I'll give you the big ones. Nominal unit sales declined 0.6%. U.S. unit declined 3.7%. International growth of 18.7%. Excluding Hurricane Harvey, global unit sales growth of 7.7%. U.S. unit growth of 5.7%. Ex Harvey and ex charities, we said in the U.S. was 7.5%.

Gary Prestopino
Analyst, Barrington Research

Okay. Thank you.

Will Franklin
EVP, Copart

Gary, I got the number for you on the percentage of non-insurance vehicles sold last quarter. In the U.S. it was 22.9%, and the same quarter last year was 20.8%.

Gary Prestopino
Analyst, Barrington Research

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. We'll take our next question from Chris Bottiglieri of Wolfe Research.

Chris Bottiglieri
Analyst, Wolfe Research

Hi. Thanks for taking the question. I was hoping you could disaggregate the increase in average sale prices. I think some of it's mix. I was wondering maybe just to look at what the ASPs have done for the insurance segment.

Will Franklin
EVP, Copart

You're right. A portion of it is mix. We haven't separated the impact of the change in mix versus the increase in ASPs sold for insurance companies. I'm not sure we can provide that to you on the call.

Jeff Liaw
CFO, Copart

I think Will did provide the stats on Manheim on a two-year basis and U.S. insurance only being up 35%.

Will Franklin
EVP, Copart

Right. Not the impact it has on revenue.

Jeff Liaw
CFO, Copart

Right. Not the impact on revenue. The point is that ASPs are up and up significantly year-over-year, including for the insurance segment in isolation. It's not just mix shift, it is also significant increases in insurance ASPs.

Chris Bottiglieri
Analyst, Wolfe Research

Gotcha. That's what I'm going to ride at. When you think about what's driving this, is there any metrics you can point in terms of the total loss rates? Are you saying that total loss rates are increasing more for newer vehicles than for older vehicles? Anything you can use to demonstrate that the newer vehicles are being totaled today than historically?

Jeff Liaw
CFO, Copart

I think the themes you've heard us talk about on the last few calls all still hold true, which is that we are seeing, on average, slightly newer cars being totaled. If we look at the model year of the car we sell, we are selling more newer cars today than we were a year ago. That's been true for a while. We are also selling less damaged cars, so the cars are totaling more easily. We have certain metrics to the insurance companies, rather, and they provide them to us regarding repair estimates. How much is the repair estimate relative to the intact value of the car, and we are seeing by that particular barometer, less damaged cars entering our system over time. On the flip side of this is all the bidding phenomenon that Will described.

We are seeing newer and less damaged cars on the supply side. On the demand side, you are seeing more international buyers, more buyers period, by the way, domestic and international, but also a more diversified and global buyer base for our cars. It's both of those things working in concert to drive those numbers up.

Chris Bottiglieri
Analyst, Wolfe Research

Got you. Just lastly there, the total loss rates are pretty amazing, and it sounds like [uncertain] . Do you have any data on accident frequency? What are you seeing there? Are accidents still down every year? Do you think some of this collision avoidance technology is yet impacting accident frequency, or do you think it's still too far off?

Jeff Liaw
CFO, Copart

We probably don't have any better data than you do. We follow third-party sources like the Fast Track data and so forth. What I'd say first is that for the vast majority of the company's history, accident frequency has declined slightly, steadily, but very slightly over time, and it's been dwarfed by, of course, total loss frequency on the other side of the equation. That has driven organic unit volumes up very meaningfully over time. I do think that the rapid increases in accident frequency we saw from 2011, 2012 to 2016 have tapered. Accident frequency may be declining somewhat in the flat, but it's not rising at the rate that it had previously. Total loss frequency, as far as we can tell, continues its upward trend.

Chris Bottiglieri
Analyst, Wolfe Research

Got you. That's helpful. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. We'll take our next question from Daniel Imbro of Stephens Inc.

Daniel Imbro
Analyst, Stephens Inc.

Yeah. Good morning, guys. Thanks for taking the question. On Germany, I think you mentioned, Jeff, you guys are at 12 locations. As a footprint, is that a sufficient network to service the country today? How is the salvage industry in that market growing? Obviously, you guys are growing rapidly, taking share, but is the market also growing high single digits similar to the U.S.?

Jeff Liaw
CFO, Copart

As for the footprint, I think this is sufficient for us to participate actively in Germany. There's no doubt in my mind that over time, as we penetrate the market, grow our platform, we will invest dramatically more still in landing capacity. In terms of sufficiency of capacity, we are still in the very early innings of our participation in Germany. Your second question again was, sir?

Daniel Imbro
Analyst, Stephens Inc.

Just on industry growth in Germany, is it similar to the U.S. in kind of that high single-digit range?

Jeff Liaw
CFO, Copart

That's a tricky question to answer. Even your point about our taking share is a very nuanced concept in the sense that we are taking share from what is a very different traditional salvage model, through the listing service, et cetera, which I'm sure you heard and can review again from the first quarter call. In a nutshell, I don't think the underlying characteristics should be different from the U.S. and the U.K. in the sense that the cars are relatively old across the system. Germany is a mature economy that has had cars for a long time. The average fleet age, likewise, is old. In comparison, by the way, to developing markets or to economies that have grown tremendously in the last decade or two, China and India and the like, where cars are relatively new by comparison.

The cars are old, the cars are expensive to repair, meaning labor costs are high, parts costs are high, regulatory burdens are also meaningful, meaning you have to restore airbags to accident-tax condition to drive cars. All of those same underlying forces are similar in Germany. For like-for-like salvage auction statistics in Germany, we don't have them because they don't exist, right? We are the first ones to attempt to deploy the Copart model, so to speak, in Germany.

Daniel Imbro
Analyst, Stephens Inc.

Okay. Thanks. Will, I think you mentioned that over 30% of U.S. vehicles are now going abroad, and I'm assuming that some of those vehicles are going over to Europe. Can you talk about the buyer base in Germany to the extent, I would love to hear your thoughts around over time as you develop the German market and the further EU market, does that cannibalize any of the international demand that you're seeing at your U.S. auctions today?

Will Franklin
EVP, Copart

No, it really doesn't. Most of our international activity is in the less developed countries. Most of our cars provide affordable transportation. Our top three are Mexico, which is obvious because of its proximity to the United States, the next two are the UAE and Nigeria. We're also seeing significant growth in the Caucasus countries. There is some cross-pollination in our buyers in Germany, but it's not significant in its scope. We don't think it will have a cannibalization impact on our international activity as Germany develops.

Daniel Imbro
Analyst, Stephens Inc.

Okay, great. Last one for me, just on capital allocation. You guys off the show deployed capital towards share refill in the quarter, and you funded it with some short-term debt. Understanding you don't want to comment on any future activity, has your appetite culturally maybe carry more leverage on the business changed today given some of the scale you've gained in recent years?

Jeff Liaw
CFO, Copart

No, I don't think there's been a philosophical shift at Copart. If you go back just a few years, even at the end of 2014, we had leverage on the balance sheet for share repurchases we consummated in the summer of 2015 and December of 2015. We had a little bit more leverage then even than we do now. No, there's no philosophical shift in how we think about leverage. We generally prefer to have meaningful financial flexibility, which gives us strategic flexibility when it comes to acquiring land, pursuing international growth, and so forth. We'll continue to be a relatively low leverage institution.

Daniel Imbro
Analyst, Stephens Inc.

Got it. Thanks a lot Jeff .

Operator

Thank you. Again, if you would like to ask a question, please press star one now. We'll take our next question from Derek Glenn of Consumer Edge Research.

Derek Glynn
Analyst, Consumer Edge Research

Thank you for taking my question. As you think about additional growth opportunities outside of North America or Europe, China and India stand out as potentially two large markets in the long run. Can you provide an update on how you view those opportunities and whether investments have been made to expand there?

Jeff Liaw
CFO, Copart

I think you captured the thought well there. They are very promising markets long term. For a host of reasons, the markets haven't yet materialized to nearly the same extent that they have in Europe and the United States. We'll be there when it emerges, but it's not in the next couple of years anyway.

Derek Glynn
Analyst, Consumer Edge Research

Okay. Understood. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. This concludes our question and answer session. I'll turn it back to management for closing remarks.

Jeff Liaw
CFO, Copart

Thank you. Thank you for coming on the call. We look forward to reporting on the next call on Q3. Thanks again. Bye-bye.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for your participation. This concludes today's conference. Have a great rest of your day.