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Earnings Call: Q2 2021

Feb 19, 2021

Speaker 1

Good day, everyone, and welcome to the Copart Incorporated Second Quarter Fiscal 2021 Earnings Call. Just a reminder, today's conference is being recorded. For opening remarks and introductions, I would like to turn the call over to Mr. John North, Chief Financial Officer of Copart Incorporated. Please go ahead, sir.

Speaker 2

Thanks. During today's call, we'll Discuss certain non GAAP measures, which include adjustments to reverse the effect of certain discrete income tax items, foreign currency related gains, Certain income tax benefits and payroll taxes related to the accounting for stock option exercises. We provided a reconciliation of these non GAAP financial measures the most directly comparable GAAP measures on our Investor Relations website and in our press release issued yesterday. We believe these non GAAP measures, together with our corresponding GAAP measures are relevant in analyzing our results and assessing our business trends and performance. In addition, our comments today report forward looking statements within the meaning of federal securities laws, including management's current views with respect to trends, opportunities and uncertainties in our markets, including the COVID-nineteen pandemic.

These forward looking statements involve substantial risks and uncertainties. For more detail on the risks associated with our business, We refer you to the section titled Risk Factors in our annual report on Form 10 ks for the year ended July 31, 2020, and each of our subsequent quarterly reports on Form 10 Q. Any forward looking statements are made as of today, and we have no obligation to update or revise any forward looking statements. And now that the disclaimer is out of the way, I'd like to turn the call over to Jeff.

Speaker 3

Thanks, John, and thank you for joining us everyone for our Q2 call here. We are Pleased with our very pleased with our results for the Q2 and look forward to discussing the trends in our business throughout today's discussion. As an appropriate cap to a bizarre 12 months, we are now experiencing a major weather system in the US of course including here at headquarters in Dallas Where 4 inches of snow qualifies as a snowstorm of epic proportions. So we start by extending our well wishes to our team, our customers and their families. A special thanks this week to the Copart headquarters team, including our tech, people, operations, finance and accounting for keeping us in business to serve our customers in this case, our investors today as well, without disruption.

The natural questions today will of course focus on the pandemic. Since our last Call in November, we have all experienced firsthand the holiday season and therefore the accelerating and now decelerating caseloads across the world. We've seen new viral strains and of course we are observing the emerging logistics challenges of the global vaccine distribution phenomenon as well. Therefore, we've seen mobility modulate up and down over the course of that time as well. We have throughout remained honored to be I recognize an essential business as a business in serving our customers and the communities in which we do business.

The themes Remain overwhelmingly consistent. We have observed reduced training activity offset by the substitution of driving for other forms of transit, including Air travel, buses, trains and the like, we continue to observe accident frequency that remains higher than what would have historically been projected given Recent driving trends. We've also observed higher total loss frequency in parts empowered by very strong returns at our auctions. If anything, our long run views remain very much reinforced that the 40 year trend of rising total loss frequency remains the most important underlying driver of our business It has been a continuous trend despite some major macroeconomic disruptions over the course of the past 12 months. In pausing to reflect on the almost now full year of pandemic life, I think we've remained incredibly true to our foundational principles.

We continue to focus day to day on serving our customers exceptionally well in both good times and bad and snowstorms and otherwise. We've been flexible in accommodating their workflows. We have also noted the importance of auction liquidity, that being the flywheel of our marketplace business at a time when others may well be retrenching, we continue to invest Very substantial resources and growing our global buyer base. We continue to believe that physical capacity is a key enabler of our business as well and have invested accordingly, including Making some opportunistic purchases in over the course of the past year or so. And we certainly have seen the power of deploying technology In every corner of our business to make ourselves more efficient, our customers more efficient and to drive superior returns as well.

In our auctions, in our member recruitment and retention efforts, In customer integration, in reporting, loan payoff tools, our vehicle valuation tools, and on and on and on, there There is no end to the power of technology, both past, present and future in Copart. Our people and culture have also been Remarkably durable and essential despite the disruptions of various remote work requirements, quarantines for exposure to coronavirus and otherwise It is the durability of Copart's culture, I think, that has proven to be the strongest thread that keeps us together. We've invested substantial resources throughout the pandemic and all of the above In the face of massive economic disruption, we continue to make decisions all day, every day to support our customers 20 years, that remains our horizon as we make day to day decisions. On our business specifically, we certainly did observe Volume declines in the Q2 due to reduced driving activity and higher car prices, of course, which all else equal would leave fewer cars to being totaled, offset by higher than expected accident frequency, very strong auction written, therefore, a total loss frequency as well. Our global unit sales decreased by 13% for the quarter with a U.

S. Unit decrease of 13% and an international unit decline of approximately We've observed that slightly more pronounced international decline as certain countries in which we have implemented More severe shelter in place orders due to high COVID-nineteen case counts and population density as well. Within our U. S. Non insurance business, We continue the trend of seeing charities and wholesalers volumes contracting the most significantly, perhaps affected most directly by COVID-nineteen.

Excluding those two categories, our non insurance volume continued its year over year growth trends. And in fact, our dealer business grew 10% year over year in unit volume, Compared to what we believe were significant declines for other whole car auction platforms, this is both a product of our auction liquidity, the I described a moment ago and certainly a contributor to it as well. Every dealer car we earn the right to sell empowers us to serve our insurance customers Still better with superior returns and vice versa. Our global inventory at the end of January decreased 1.1% versus a year ago. That is comprised of both a slight increase in U.

S. Inventory of 1% and decline of 15% for international inventory, Primarily driven by those countries where we have experienced more severe COVID-nineteen lockdowns. On our average selling prices, they remain robust With substantial increases year over year, ASPs worldwide grew 35% for the quarter with USPs up 36%. And while there are various offsetting mix shift considerations for that U. S.

Number, our insurance ASPs The natural question of course is how durable those are. We note that There are certainly favorable underlying drivers as well, including strong used car prices. Folks like Manheim and NADA Citing increases in values of 15% or thereabouts, substantial increases, but certainly shy of the mid-thirty percent range that we've experienced firsthand. Our selling prices have grown, we think, as a reflection of our ongoing marketing member recruitment capabilities and Broad global reach, with the exception of the 1 quarter at the beginning of the pandemic last year, we've now experienced 16 straight quarters of ASP increases Year over year, international buyers after experiencing a slight decline in terms of the mix of vehicles purchased at the height of the pandemic Are now purchasing cars again at a greater rate than before the pandemic, despite logistics challenges and the headaches that might come with shipping cars in 2021, A reflection of the decades long trends that we've discussed at great length previously. I think it's difficult to project any given month, any given quarter or year, But the secular trends for ASPs, including our international buyer recruitment and retention, total loss frequencies certainly as well remain durable.

We are grateful for our very strong financial performance this quarter, excited to continue investing in our customers' future And with that, I'll turn it over to our CFO, John North to discuss the Q2 financial results.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Jeff, and good morning, everybody. I'll make a few brief comments on our operational results to provide a little more color, and then we'll open it up for some questions. Global revenue increased $41,900,000 or 7.3 percent, including a $2,200,000 benefit due to currency. Global service revenue increased $22,600,000 or 4.4 percent primarily due to higher ASPs. The U.

S. Service revenue grew increase in volumes partially offset by lower international volumes. U. S. Purchased vehicle revenue was up 48.3% over the prior year International grew by 7.5%.

As a result, purchased vehicle gross profit defines vehicle Less cost of vehicle sales increased by $3,600,000 overall. Global gross profit increased by $47,600,000 were 18.3% and our gross margin percentage improved by approximately 160 basis points to 49.8%. U. S. Margins improved from 47.6 percent to 52.2 percent and international margins increased from 32.8% to 37.6%.

Both segments margin was driven primarily through increased ASPs, but was partially offset due to volume declines over fixed cost components leading to higher cost per unit processed. I'll now move to a discussion of G and A expenses excluding stock compensation and depreciation expenses.

Speaker 4

We continue to believe that

Speaker 2

we can achieve additional operating leverage over the long term and we encourage you to review the trend lines rather than a single quarter metric for a more accurate view of the business, particularly given the impact of COVID. With that said, our G and A spend was down $3,200,000 from $39,200,000 a year ago to $36,000,000 In 2021. As a result, our GAAP operating income increased by 23% from $209,900,000 to 258,200,000 We delivered over 500 basis points of operating margin improvement due to revenue growth from strong ASPs outpacing the impact of a lower absolute volume of vehicles while controlling G and A costs. Net interest expense increased $400,000 or 8.6 percent year over year Due to reduced interest income on collected cash balances given the current interest rate environment and an increase in issuance costs and unused line of credit fees due to the 2020 revolver upsizing an amendment. Q2 income expense was $59,000,000 at a $23,400,000 effective tax rate, Reflecting a $2,200,000 benefit to the size of employee stock options, which has been adjusted out for purposes of the non GAAP earnings included in our earnings release.

On a non GAAP basis, our effective tax rate would have been 24.2%. In summary, GAAP net income increased Adjusted to remove the effects of currency and the tax benefit on the exercise of stock options, non GAAP net income increased 24.8% from $153,500,000 last year to $191,500,000 in the Q1 of 2021 in the Q2 of 'twenty one, excuse me. For the 1st 6 months of fiscal 2021, GAAP net income increased to $393,700,000 and non GAAP net Net income increased 23.0 percent to $379,800,000 Now to briefly update our liquidity and cash flow highlights. As of January 31, 2021, we had $1,600,000,000 of liquidity comprised of $616,400,000 in cash and cash equivalents and an undrawn revolving credit facility with capacity of over $1,000,000,000 This is an increase of $138,700,000 over July 31, 2020. Operating cash flow for the quarter decreased modestly by $10,000,000 year over year to $134,500,000 primarily driven by working capital changes.

Sequential operating cash flow decreased $124,000,000 from the Q1 of 2021 due to seasonal factors that should reverse later in the year. We invested $136,100,000 in capital expenditures for the quarter and 85% of this amount was attributable to capacity expansion. This investment continues to ensure adequate capacity for additional business and creates a low economic mode to potential market entrants given the difficulty in sourcing appropriately zoned facilities. In conclusion, our conservative capital structure and strong and durable flow enable us to continue to make decisions for the long term interest of both our customers and our shareholders. That concludes our prepared remarks.

Victor, we're happy to open it up to some questions.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Our first question comes from Bob Labick with CJS Securities. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker 5

Congratulations on strong operating performance.

Speaker 3

Thanks, Paul.

Speaker 1

I wanted to start with one

Speaker 5

of the comments you made just take a little further, Jeff, you mentioned total loss frequency is one of the has been rising for 40 years. It's one of the keys to the investment thesis to the Secular growth that you have, but there's also been a 30 plus percent ASP rise over the last 9 months plus. Has total loss frequency risen proportionately? Do you think there's more to come? Do you think What's the correlation between those and how do you think it's going to play out going forward?

Speaker 3

It's a great and Very thorny question you raised. So I mentioned used car prices, which recently tracked carefully as well. So if you Let's separate a bunch of different variables at the same time. Start with the used car prices. Used car prices being high by So, it would lead to fewer cars being totaled.

To the extent that it helps to bring salvage auction values up, that can then increase total loss frequency to some extent as well. But your question really is to what extent are today's auction returns being incorporated by insurance companies Into their total loss decisions? And I think the answer is partially so. But I don't think broadly speaking folks have fully accounted for Today's auction returns in terms of the total loss frequency. You've seen the uptick in total loss frequency, but it's in the 1% kind of range.

I think If and when these prices proved durable, I think we would see total loss frequency up meaningfully still.

Speaker 5

Got it. That's great. Thank you. And then, obviously, you guys were all digital going into the pandemic, but it still is a Largely disruptive event for everyone. Can you talk about some of the biggest changes you've made to the business model as a result and Where that positions you going forward?

Speaker 3

Yes. I think we have the good benefit, Bob, in some respects of having been Wired for disruptions like this even before we could expect them, meaning we have been an online only auction platform As you know, since 2003, so we didn't have to figure it out on the fly. We have been a global online for literally decades. So that's been the single biggest help during the pandemic. Otherwise, we certainly had to make Real time accommodations to a number of our customers who have their own evolving workflows that Now they now wish to send fewer people to physical locations and so forth, so we have to find ways to accommodate that workflow and some mix of Through some mix of business process and technology deployments on our part to keep our own people safe and to reduce density in our facilities, we deployed tools that Help our members, our employees and our sellers reduce congestion, so they can go to the facilities at the right times and wait in their cars instead of coming into the facility and waiting Fine, physically.

We've certainly had to accommodate work from home arrangements for folks 2 have been quarantined, exposed or in high case count areas where the restrictions are more severe. By and large, we have, I'd say, much more business as usual in actual practice than not, in part Because we had already been a digital business beforehand.

Speaker 5

Okay, got it. And then last one for me, I'll get back in queue. And I know you guys are always looking out 3, 5, 10 years in your planning. I was wondering if you could share with us The biggest changes in opportunities you see domestically and internationally over the next 3, 5 or 10 years?

Speaker 3

Incredibly open ended question and probably a longer discussion than we can handle We're certainly excited about our core business being the I think you were Citing our incumbent market specifically, but in the U. S, I think we believe that that rising total loss frequency is a huge opportunity for us, Not just as the passive beneficiaries of it, but because we affect those results to some extent through our auction technology, our member recruitment, Building that global liquidity base is everything. And as we drive returns upwards, we can for our customers continue to achieve better returns and therefore earn the right To sell still more of those cars, so bringing us back to the total loss frequency, D. C. Described a moment ago.

Therefore, also, we can continue to grow our Business in the non insurance realms as well, including among automotive dealers. As our auction values rise, as our liquidity Grows and builds upon itself. We are the right outlet for evermore whole cars as well, and that also is a large for opportunity for us here in the U. S.

Speaker 5

Okay, terrific. I will jump back in queue. Thank you.

Speaker 3

That's welcome.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Our next question comes from Stephanie Benjamin with Truist Financial. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker 6

Hi, good afternoon.

Speaker 3

Hi, Jeff.

Speaker 6

Jeff, you brought up made an interesting comment. I don't think Particularly unique, but you called out that your buyers are now buying at a greater rate than pre COVID levels. Just given what we have seen with ASPs, Pete, I'd love to hear your thoughts on why you think the buyer base has been a little bit more active. I know you've made a lot of

Speaker 3

Sure. The observation was more I think part that in the high of the pandemic, which I think of as the The pandemic uncertainty perhaps the spring and summer of 2020 and also compounded then by many of Our buyer currencies having elevated relative to the U. S. Dollar, we've seen and these are all in Small percentage point changes, Stephanie, to be fair. These aren't titanic shifts of any sort.

But we've seen Their buying power compressed by virtue of their currencies. Now sitting here in after this quarter, we've now seen international buyers purchasing The most cars on a percentage basis relative to our total units sold that they have bought since before since pre pandemic levels. So I think it's a reflection of Ongoing demand, more of the 40 year trends, more that our wrecked cars are incredibly valuable as drivable cars to many other countries around the world. So I think that's really the phenomenon, as you note, supported by our marketing and technology efforts to build upon that buyer base.

Speaker 6

Great. Thank you. And then I was wondering if you could just provide a little bit of an update on your efforts to build out your presence in Germany?

Speaker 3

Sure. In Germany, I think the economic thesis, which we described at great length in couple of calls in 2019, our fiscal 2019. So certainly would direct others to go there. I know you've read it carefully. But the underlying thesis is that the status quo today is a disservice to insurance carriers And to their policyholders both, both in economic terms and experiential ones.

And that the Copart auction model, which we have deployed as you know, at great scale in the U. S, U. Canada, Brazil and elsewhere generates better economic outcomes for everyone involved and better experiential outcomes as well. Our experience there, including during the pandemic has done nothing but reinforce that. We are, as noted a few calls ago, we are Selling consigned vehicles on behalf of a number of the top insurance carriers in Germany.

We are continuing to invest in our technology, our land, Our people, our marketing efforts, ultimately we think it is our business process, our global buyer base and our technology which will ultimately allow us to prevail. We are incredibly excited. As you might imagine, the pandemic itself is an interesting catalyst. It shakes up the status quo to some extent. But in other respects, it also can arrest meetings that otherwise might have happened, working sessions and so forth with insurance carriers.

But the underlying thesis is as strong as ever. Our results our auction results there continue to demonstrate a superior outcome relative to The status quo, which ultimately benefits the insurance carriers and benefits the policyholders as well because they don't have an owner retained wrecked vehicle And ultimately because this will drive insurance rates down as well.

Speaker 6

Great. Thank you so much.

Speaker 3

Thanks, Devin.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Our next question comes from Craig Kennison with Baird. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker 7

Good morning, Jeff and John. Thanks for taking my questions. I wanted to take another crack at Deconstructing ARPU trends over the last several years really. To what extent is the higher ARPU due to services that you didn't even offer 5 years ago. I'm thinking like loan payoff or other fee for service Opportunities that are available on the platform that maybe just weren't available 5 years ago.

Speaker 3

Craig, clarifying question. ARPU, what's your arithmetic?

Speaker 1

Well, I'm just thinking, I

Speaker 7

mean, you've got a big trend, obviously, a big movement in your average selling price and overall revenue per unit, which I can't remember the number you cited on the call, but obviously this quarter was up a lot. We know that there are several factors driving it and I'm trying to just get at Probably one issue, which is maybe you're offering features and capabilities today that you didn't offer in the past and that would partially explain the growth in that metric?

Speaker 3

It does partially, but only partially. So a minority of that would be explained by additional We do think we offer the best suite of seller services in the business, including the loan payoff tool. You mentioned a moment ago Various title services and the like. But the majority of what I think you're calling ARPU growth, which is the comparison of our revenue Change relative to our units sold change. There is some principal mix in there as well.

So, principal mix can throw that math off in ways that Overstate its economic importance as you know, but that aside, it is principally driven by strong auction returns, Which then in turn of course generates higher revenue to Copart as well.

Speaker 7

Okay, thanks. And then maybe Somewhat related, but it goes to the platform itself. I'm just you've continued to innovate this platform, but you don't like to talk as much about that innovation. I'd be curious to know what you achieved in 2020 that what features did you develop in 2020 that your buyers or sellers And I'm just thinking about the tools that build confidence in the buyer, especially whether it's pictures, sounds, facts or Like inspection services, I'm just learning looking to learn more about innovation in 2020.

Speaker 3

And I think as you well know, Farag, I think we are quite delighted to invest aggressively in innovation And talk about it at great lengths, but principally with the actual audiences themselves, the sellers and the members alike. But when it comes to building member confidence, to us, It is a matter of reducing friction as well. So ensuring a seamless auction platform, participation for those buyers, whether it's from a desktop from their phones increasingly we are mobile first as they are as well. So ensuring the frictionless experience for them in Purchasing cars, paying for cars, registering as a member, etcetera. There are dozens, scores of individual innovations that I won't cite in great The principle of it is that we want excellent visibility, Excellent transparency and a frictionless experience from both the member and the seller side as well.

Speaker 1

Got it. Thank you.

Speaker 3

Thanks, Greg.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Our next question comes from Bret Jordan with Jefferies. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker 8

Hey, good morning guys.

Speaker 3

Hi, Brett.

Speaker 9

When you think about the dealer cars, I mean Still growing pretty significantly. How are they impacting ASPs? I would imagine or maybe you could give us some ideas from the average value of the dealer cars And at what point does the dealer mix become large enough that it starts to support the ASP average by itself?

Speaker 3

Yes, I think it's a good question. And one reason we went ahead and proactively disclosed, I think the intuition is fair that if dealer volume is up 10% year over year and the ASPs are higher than those of your insurance cards, to what extent is it contributing To ASP growth. And the answer is, yes, it contributes, but it's offset by other mix effects as well. So that U. S.

Insurance These are up 36% year over year. So it is not by and large the story for ASP change year over year for this quarter. Over time, it certainly could have that effect as well. As you know, the total of our non insurance business is in the order of the 20% kind of range. So it won't.

We will still be largely driven by insurance changes for the next X quarters and years. But over time, yes, they will continue to grow that dealer business and it will nudge our ASPs upward as well.

Speaker 8

Okay. And then in

Speaker 9

the past, you've talked about what percentage of IP addresses Either foreign or maybe brokers on behalf of foreign buyers. Could you give us an update on that number or at least maybe some idea what idea what maybe what percentage of vehicles sold, wind up in export now?

Speaker 3

Yes. And a very fair question. You're describing the methodology which we changed a few years ago. We used to measure our exports solely by registration address, but it became apparent that there are a number of folks who simply register in the U. S, but actually have their principal operations outside the U.

S. Or are exporters by trade. And so that number, the more inclusive estimate for the share of our cars purchased by non U. S. Buyers is circa 40% or thereabouts.

It's an imperfect science. There are international IP addresses that we know are for buyers who intend to export cars. There are international IP addresses That we know are not. They're literally for U. S.

Buyers who have outsourced or located their purchasing operations outside the U. S. And we purposely So the output of that analysis is circa 40% of our units are purchased by those international buyers. Though I qualify that by saying that 90% plus of our cars have their values affected by international buyers because they bid on many, many more cars still than they buy.

Speaker 8

Okay, great. Thank you.

Speaker 3

Thanks, Brett.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Our next question comes from Daniel Imbro with Stephens Inc. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker 8

Yes. Hey, good morning, guys. Thanks for taking our questions. I wanted to start on a bit more of a near term one before the longer term question, Jeff. When When we look at the volume backdrop near term, miles driven a period of stagnated here, kind of down 10% -ish, but total loss rate is going higher.

I guess as we look forward, do you expect the gains we've seen in total loss rate just say this year, we saw kind of a step function change during the pandemic. You think the industry holds on to that? And then related, what is your expectation for miles driven as we look out 12 to 24 months on the U. S. Business here?

Speaker 3

On the first question, yes. Is there Some blip at some moment where somehow it is down slightly year over year or quarter over quarter when it comes to I suppose that's possible. But when I look at the 40 year trend line, Which we mentioned a few moments ago, I think total loss frequency in 2019, get my date straight, 1980 was 4% or so and 40 years later it's north of 20. So it's a fivefold increase in the past 40 years, I think that's an inexorable march to 30%, 40% and beyond. Whether there are near term technical blips that cause To change in a given quarter, I think it's totally plausible, but I think the 40 year trend is unassailable.

To your other question about miles driven, Unfortunately, I think we see tons of data. So I think since November, we have tons of data. I'm not sure we have tons incremental insight there beyond what you and others would cite as well in the EIA data, Google, Apple, INRIX, Etcetera. We study those same trends and I think underlying them are all the same questions about the proliferation of the vaccine When kids go back to school, when leisure travel resumes, air travel resumes, I think there are so many variables that are upstream of That question even driving activity to say nothing of Copart volume, that is somewhat speculation on our part to give you any kind of number or even a range. That said, I think we are preparing ourselves when it comes to our business investing in technology and in land for a growth Ultimate growth environment.

I don't know if that's coming in 6 months or more, that remains to be seen, but I think we are prepared for it.

Speaker 8

Got it. That's helpful. Moving over to the international operations, I want to dig in, in the UK, Brazil, Germany, How much are you doing on the non insurance side over there? I would think with your global buyer base, digitally native, You could probably give them a pretty good dealer to dealer market over there compared to what they have, but I'm curious how that opportunity looks and how achievable you think that will be?

Speaker 3

I think the answer is similar that in that where we have Very substantial liquidity as we do here in the U. S, Canada, Brazil, the UK, etcetera. We are there for a very attractive platform for other non insurance cards as well. So I think your hypothesis is fair and accurate.

Speaker 8

Got it. And then last one for me. Jeff, you mentioned shipping rates and logistics headwinds are weighing on the international buyer. Is that frankly, I think the buyer bears the cost of shipping. So is that just a lack of available And then are you guys forecasting that sustained for a while here or what kind of the shipping outlook look like from your standpoint?

Speaker 3

You are correct that the logistics or the responsibility of the buyer, I think the disruptions were more severe frankly in the middle of Than they are now. But that has weighed to some extent on those international buyers. And that's the reason for sharing that context Against that backdrop, they are now at prepayment levels in terms of the share of cards they're actually purchasing in the international markets. So I don't anything I'll share with you would just be anecdotal by and large based on what we've heard from our members. Gather it's a consensus today, but not a major one.

Speaker 5

I appreciate it. Best of luck.

Speaker 3

Thanks, Dan.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Our next question comes from Chris Bottiglieri with Exane B. M. C. Paradis.

Please proceed with your question.

Speaker 4

Hey, guys. Thanks for taking the question.

Speaker 1

The first one is clerical.

Speaker 4

Did you give the non insurance mix this quarter for the U. S?

Speaker 2

Sorry, can you repeat that? You broke up a little bit.

Speaker 4

Sorry, if I'm in connection with you. Did you give a non insurance mix in the call?

Speaker 2

Yes, it's about 20%.

Speaker 4

20%, it went down a little bit. Okay. And then I guess my question was, so dealer Simon was up more than insurance. It sounds like non insurance was down a little bit, but what were some of the mitigating factors That hurt the ARPU growth. You talked about mix effects.

I'm just trying to understand the channels that might have been weaker that would have hurt ARPU?

Speaker 3

Well, our insurance ASPs are up in ARPU. We're probably conflating a few things there, Chris. So if you start let's just State ASPs, which are not revenue for us, right? And their insurance selling prices went up 36%. Dealer prices also went up.

They didn't go up 36%, right? So that is a headwind relative to the overall 36%. That is offset by the mix shift benefits of those dealer cars. We did, as we noted during the prepared remarks, See a decline in charities and wholesaler volumes to some extent and that is also frankly Supportive by itself, right, because there are lower value cars that are declining as a share of the overall mix.

Speaker 4

Chris, this

Speaker 2

is John. Just to jump in, the income was 22% of total volume in the quarter. I said approximately 20%, it was 22%.

Speaker 4

Okay, perfect. That's actually what happened. Okay, that makes sense. And then just big picture question. From what I could tell, it seems like you took more share In dealer consignment this quarter than last quarter, just based on what one of your peers reported yesterday or 2 years ago.

Is that what you're saying? And then 2, Is there something about COVID that's eroding the barriers to entry in dealer consignment? Is there anything you're doing differently to win more accounts from dealers? Just want to hear your perspective and how you're able to accelerate market share gains and deal consignment right now?

Speaker 3

Give me that first half of the question again, Chris. The second one I got.

Speaker 4

Okay. Sorry, I'm a pause for breaking up. The snowstorms killed my service. Yes, the first question is, it seems like you're taking share in dealer consignment, Right. It looks like relative to last quarter, your share actually accelerated just based on your growth rate and the market growth rate.

So just trying to understand what if that's what you're seeing from your own data that you're taking share What's the first part?

Speaker 3

Yes. I think based on what we can tell from publicly available information for other The other auction platforms, yes. We are outgrowing other participants in the industry. I would describe our Practices during the pandemic is largely a continuation of our trends. We have terrific internal sales team that pursues Those dealers, I think we have benefited from having been this online auction platform, global auction platform forever.

So if the right buyer for your car is 10 miles away, he or she will own it. If the right buyer for your car is in Poland or Nigeria, he or she will own it. So that global marketplace, I think, has been our most important tool in our belt it comes to winning those dealer accounts, it is not per se a major strategic shift. But because we were online throughout, there are certainly other participants in industry who are more accustomed To physical auctions or hybrid auctions, etcetera. And we have been certainly relatively less disruptive than some of them.

Speaker 4

Got you. Makes sense.

Speaker 1

Thank you.

Speaker 3

Thanks, Alex.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Our next question comes from Guy Prestopino with Barrington Research. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker 2

Hey, good morning all. Hey, Jeff, John, what was the U. S. Revenue growth and the international revenue growth? I couldn't write that down quick enough.

U. S. Service revenue was 4.4 percent sorry, global was 4.4%, U. S. Was For an international of 7.2 for purchased vehicles.

Speaker 8

That's revenue growth?

Speaker 5

Yes, go ahead.

Speaker 2

Yes, that was service. Service revenue for purchased vehicles is 29.7, U. S. Is 48.3 and international is 7.5. Okay.

Thank you. Just a question on your dealer vehicles. I mean, Are you seeing your platform being used moving, I guess, up the value channel? The impression I always have when this was initially started that you were kind of trying to disintermediate maybe the wholesaler that Getting the 12 to 15 year old car off a lot. Seems that as you're gaining share here, Are you seeing your platform almost play out to the extent that it's mimicking some of the Other online services that are out there on a dealer to dealer market basis?

Speaker 3

That direct comparison is harder for us to comment on, Gary. I think your general observation is fair though that As our overall pool vehicles evolves over time, if you just took a picture of what a Copart car looked like in 2019, 90 versus what a Copart the median Copart car looks like in 2020. The car in 1990 was much more heavily Wrecked, physically speaking. Our cars were more readily repairable than they are today. And today, if a couple of sensors are knocked out, Then the cars can be totaled much more readily, in part because the returns are better on the back end as well.

And therefore, the overall pool of the Has evolved as well and more and more whole calls are directly addressable by our buyer base as well. So to your overall question, yes, We are quoting up the value chain.

Speaker 1

Okay. Thank you.

Speaker 3

Thanks,

Speaker 1

Thank you. Our next question comes from Ryan Brinkman with JPMorgan. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker 10

Hi, thanks for taking my questions. I know you've got a number already around the non insurance business. I'd like to ask a couple more, including if you're able to say what percent of your non insurance Volume is truly whole car as opposed to, I guess, salvage cars that are sourced outside of insurance companies. And are whole cars more profitable vehicles for you to sell because they at higher prices. Is there anything else to think about like for example on the selfie side like if there are smaller dealers selling the vehicles, maybe they don't get the volume Counts that your customers selling tens of thousands of vehicles do, making it even more profitable.

And then just finally, I'm curious if there are certain parts of the whole car market that you're targeting now such as dealers, but maybe there are other segments Or categories of sellers that you've not gotten into yet, which might offer future growth opportunities?

Speaker 3

Insightful questions, some we can address more transparently than others. In short, we certainly believe that the as the loss frequency rises as the character of the vehicles that we sell changes in that pool of It evolves over time, but yes, still more of transacted vehicles become addressable through Copart's platform in short. As for the profitability or the mix thereof, the dealers are not the majority of, but in a very important portion of our non insurance business, of course, that Business is profitable to us. We won't comment on relative fees paid by our customers in part because the services we provide them also vary Greatly as well. But it is a profitable business for us.

It is important to us. It also, as I noted in the prepared remarks, also helps us serve insurance customers better as well. They are all Mutually supportive of one another because of the liquidity phenomenon. When we win that dealer car, it attracts still more buyers who have been on Insurance cars and vice versa. And so as we total as we help insurance carriers total cars that are more and more marginal from their point of view, That also attracts more buyers, which also therefore attracts more dealer cars as well as those other sources that you may have in mind.

Speaker 10

Okay, very helpful. Thanks. And then just lastly on the winter weather outside your office window, should investors be thinking about that as A potential tailwind to both revenue and profits or is it more of a surge or cat type volume that also comes with the higher costs?

Speaker 3

It's a fair question. I have to confess despite having grown up here to not have tremendous With Texas snowstorms, to be fair. So I think we'll see how this unfolds over the course of the next few weeks. Typically the major challenge in flooding, major rainstorms and windstorms is that cars are stranded in all kinds of different places that require very urgent pickups. I think in We have seen certainly reduced driving activity.

This is pandemic affects turbocharge still in terms of driving activity and such. But we are deploying many of our resources to address this question. Many of our own company owned trucks Our people who are on supply for instance like this we're deploying as well. So I don't know what the ultimate financial impact will be, but we're I think well prepared to handle it regardless.

Speaker 10

Interesting. Thank you.

Speaker 3

Thank you.

Speaker 1

Thank you. There There are no further questions at this time. I'd like to turn the floor back over to management for any closing remarks.

Speaker 3

Right. Well, thank you for joining us for the Q2 call. We look forward to talking to you in a few months. Thanks everyone.

Speaker 1

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for your participation. This does conclude today's conference call. Have a great rest of your day.

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