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Earnings Call: Q1 2019

May 3, 2019

Operator

Good morning, everyone, welcome to the Camden Property Trust first quarter 2019 earnings conference call. All participants will be in a listen-only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal a conference specialist by pressing the star key, followed by 0. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To ask a question, you may press star and then 1 on your telephone keypads. To withdraw your questions, you may press star and 2. Please also note today's event is being recorded. At this time, I'd like to turn the conference call over to Ms. Kimberly Callahan, Senior Vice President of Investor Relations. Ma'am, please go ahead.

Kimberly Callahan
SVP of Investor Relations, Camden Property Trust

Good morning, thank you for joining Camden's first quarter 2019 earnings conference call. Before we begin our prepared remarks, I would like to advise everyone that we will be making forward-looking statements based on our current expectations and beliefs. These statements are not guarantees of future performance and involve risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from expectations. Further information about these risks can be found in our filings with the SEC, we encourage you to review them. Any forward-looking statements made on today's call represent management's current opinions, the company assumes no obligation to update or supplement these statements because of subsequent events. As a reminder, Camden's complete first quarter 2019 earnings release is available in the investors section of our website at camdenliving.com, it includes reconciliations to non-GAAP financial measures, which will be discussed on this call.

Joining me today are Ric Campo, Camden's Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Keith Oden, President, and Alex Jessett, Chief Financial Officer. We will be brief in our prepared remarks and try to complete the call within 1 hour. We ask that you limit your questions to 2, then rejoin the queue if you have additional items to discuss. If we are unable to speak with everyone in the queue today, we'd be happy to respond to additional questions by phone or email after the call concludes. At this time, I'll turn the call over to Ric Campo.

Ric Campo
Chairman and CEO, Camden Property Trust

Thanks, Kim, good morning. Our pre-conference music today featured Keith Urban, who was recently named Country Music's Entertainer of the Year. That's not why we chose him for our conference call music. The backstory is too long to tell, I'll let you call Kim for that story later. To all of you Camden associates, it needs no explanation whatsoever. I want to give a big thank you to our Camden team for the hard work and focus that produced another solid quarter for Camden. You have clearly shown how you improve the lives of our team members, our customers, and our shareholders 1 experience at a time this quarter. The first quarter operating performance was better than we expected, as a result, we increased the same-store revenue and net operating guidance for the year.

2019 looks to be another strong year for Camden in the multifamily business. Apartment demand continues to be strong, driven by healthy job growth in our markets that continue to exceed the national average. In-migration continues to drive population and household growth in most of our markets. Recently released data from the U.S. Census Bureau's five-year American Community Survey covering 2012 through 2017 identified the top regional magnets for young adults ages 25 to 34, who are our largest customer group. This might surprise some of you, but Houston led the country for millennial migration, followed by Denver, Dallas, and Austin. Seattle was the only West Coast market in the top five. Our markets attracted over 245,000 millennials during this timeframe. The migration was driven by strong job growth, low cost of living, and the high quality of life offered in our markets.

2019 apartment completions are consistent with the levels in 2017 to 2018 and should be absorbed without much trouble. Our development business continues to create value for our shareholders. Recent developments have been leasing up in line with our budgets. We are continuing to add to the development pipeline for future deliveries. We have completed $217 million in acquisitions in 2019 with a full-year budget of $300 million. While the acquisition market remains competitive, I'm confident that our teams will hit or exceed our 2019 target. I'll turn the call over for Keith Oden for some observations on the markets.

Keith Oden
President, Camden Property Trust

Thanks, Ric. Our first quarter revenue results were a little bit better than planned, which is certainly a good sign for the balance of 2019. Overall, same-store revenues were up 3.7% for the quarter and 0.8% sequentially. First quarter 2019 revenue growth was 4% or better in six of our markets, with Denver at 5.5%, L.A. Orange County 5.2%, D.C. Metro 4.7%, Phoenix up 4.6%, Atlanta 4.2%, and Orlando at 4% even. Contributing to our revenue outperformance for the quarter were D.C. Metro, L.A. Orange County, and Atlanta. As expected, our weakest markets were B-minus rated Austin, Dallas, and South Florida. Regarding rents on new leases and renewals, in the first quarter, new leases were up 1.1% and renewals up 5.5% for a blended growth rate of 3.3%. That compares favorably to the first quarter 2018 blended rate of 2.8% and to the prior quarter of 2.4%.

As we expected, we've seen seasonal improvement in new lease rates from January through April, and we anticipate this trend to continue throughout our peak leasing season. April preliminary lease rates are running at 2.9% for new leases and 5.5% for renewals for a blended rate of 4% even. April results combined with our May, June renewals going out at a 5.7% average increase gives us confidence that our leasing momentum should meet our expectations through the summer months. Our qualified traffic continues to support above-trend occupancy levels across our platform. We averaged a strong 95.8% occupancy in the first quarter, which matched the 95.8% last quarter and was above our first quarter 2018 level of 95.4%. April occupancy came in at 96%, compared to 95.7% last April, and the net turnover rate for the quarter fell again to 38% versus 39% last year.

Our rent to income continues to reflect strength as our average rent as a percentage of household income remained at 18.6%, the same as last quarter, and only a fractional increase from the 18.3% last year. Interestingly, our move-outs to purchase homes fell slightly to 14% even versus 14.1% for the first quarter of last year, and the full-year rate in 2018 of 14.8%. Despite some recent reports of millennials returning to the single-family for sale market in greater numbers, to the extent the reports are correct, we've yet to see an impact in our markets. Finally, for the 12th consecutive year, Camden was included in Fortune Magazine's list of the 100 best places to work. We celebrate this honor on behalf of the entire REIT industry as an indication of how much progress we've made collectively in the last 26 years. Camden is a great place to work.

It's also a great place to live. Congratulations to our team on achieving our goal of 90% customer sentiment score in the first quarter. Your commitment to improving lives one experience at a time made this possible. Now I'll turn the call over to Alex Jessett.

Alex Jessett
CFO, Camden Property Trust

Thanks, chief. Before I move on to our financial results and guidance, a brief update on our recent real estate activities. During the first quarter of 2019, we purchased for $97 million Camden Old Town Scottsdale, a newly constructed 316-unit community located in downtown Scottsdale. Subsequent to quarter end, we purchased for $120 million Camden Rainey Street, a newly constructed 326-unit, eight-story building located in downtown Austin. During the first quarter of 2019, we stabilized ahead of schedule our Camden Shady Grove development in Rockville, Maryland, generating a 7% stabilized yield. We also completed construction on both the phase 1 of our Camden North End development in Phoenix and the phase 2 of our Camden Grandview development in Charlotte and began construction on the phase 2 of Camden North End.

Finally, subsequent to quarter end, we purchased approximately four acres of land in the NoDa neighborhood of Charlotte for the future development of approximately 400 apartment homes. On the financing side, during the first quarter, we completed a public offering of 3,375,000 shares, generating net proceeds of approximately $328 million. We also repaid at par $439 million of secured debt with a weighted average interest rate of 5.2%. $200 million of this debt was repaid on February the 1st, with the remaining $239 million repaid on March the 1st. These secured debt repayments unencumbered 12 Camden communities valued at approximately $1.3 billion. As a result, 98% of our debt is now unsecured, and 99% of our assets are unencumbered. Also during the first quarter, we amended and restated our unsecured line of credit, extending the maturity date to March 2023 and increasing the capacity to $900 million.

Our balance sheet is strong, with net debt to EBITDA at 4 times and a total fixed charge coverage ratio at 5.9 times. We ended the quarter with $242 million outstanding on our unsecured lines of credit. As of today, after taking into effect our first quarter dividend payments and the purchase of Camden Rainey Street, we have $408 million outstanding, which we anticipate refinancing with an upcoming unsecured bond issuance. Turning to financial results. Last night, we reported FFO for the first quarter of 2019 of $120.7 million, or $1.22 per share, exceeding the midpoint of our guidance range by $0.02. Our $0.02 per share outperformance for the first quarter was primarily due to approximately three quarters of a cent in higher same-store NOI resulting from higher occupancy and the timing of repair and maintenance expense.

Approximately half a cent in better-than-anticipated results from our non-same store and development communities, and approximately three quarters of a cent in a combination of lower overhead costs and higher fee and joint venture income. The impact from our first quarter equity offering was offset by lower interest expense from the earlier than anticipated repayment of secured debt and lower amounts of debt outstanding. Last night, based upon our year-to-date operating performance and our expectations for the remainder of the year, we updated and revised our 2019 full year same-store and FFO guidance. As a result of our better-than-expected first quarter same-store occupancy performance, we increased the midpoint of our full year revenue growth from 3.3% to 3.4%. Additionally, we increased the midpoint of our full year expense growth from 3.25% to 3.35%.

This expense increase is driven entirely by higher than anticipated insurance expense resulting from a challenging insurance renewal environment. Our increased revenue guidance, partially offset by our increased expense guidance, results in an increase to the midpoint of our 2019 same-store NOI guidance from 3.3% to 3.4%. Last night, we also maintained the midpoint of our full year 2019 FFO guidance at $5.07 per share. There are several adjustments to our original guidance, including the following increases to FFO. Half a cent from our anticipated 10-basis-point increase to our 2019 same-store NOI. Approximately $0.01 from our first quarter outperformance not associated with same-store results. $0.02 of additional acquisition NOI resulting from our earlier-than-anticipated Camden Rainey Street acquisition. We are still budgeting an additional $100 million of acquisitions in the fourth quarter, in line with our prior guidance.

One and a half cents of additional NOI due to the removal of $100 million of fourth-quarter pro forma dispositions at the midpoint of our prior guidance. Due to the capital generated from our recent equity raise, we have removed dispositions from our current 2019 guidance. Nine and a half cents in lower interest expense as a result of proceeds generated from our recent equity offering and our earlier-than-anticipated secured debt repayment, partially offset by earlier acquisition spend and lower disposition proceeds. Our revised guidance now assumes we issue a $400 million, 10-year unsecured bond in mid-June at an all-in rate of approximately 4% after taking into effect in-place forward starting swaps. This 14-and-a-half-cent aggregate increase in our 2019 anticipated FFO per share is offset by the impact of the higher share count resulting from our first quarter equity offering.

Last night, we also provided earnings guidance for the second quarter of 2019. We expect FFO per share for the second quarter to be within the range of $1.24-$1.28. The midpoint of $1.26 represents a $0.04 per share increase from our $1.22 in the first quarter of 2019. This increase is primarily the result of an approximate 2% or $0.03 per share expected sequential increase in same-store NOI due to higher expected revenues during our peak leasing periods and property tax refunds anticipated during the second quarter. An approximate $0.025 per share increase in NOI from our recent acquisitions and our communities in lease-up, and an approximate $0.01 per share decrease in interest expense resulting from lower amounts of average outstanding debt.

This $0.065 per share aggregate improvement in FFO is partially offset by an approximate $0.025 per share decrease in FFO resulting from the impact of a full quarter of additional outstanding shares after our late February equity offering. At this time, we will open the call up to questions.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, at this time, we will begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press star and then one on your telephone keypads. If you are using a speakerphone, we do ask that you please pick up your handset before pressing the keys to ensure the best sound quality. To withdraw your questions, you may press star and two. Once again, that is star and then one to ask a question. Our first question today comes from Austin Wurschmidt from KeyBanc Markets. Please go ahead with your question.

Austin Wurschmidt
Analyst, KeyBanc Markets

Hi. Good morning. Just curious, the improvement you have seen in blended lease rates appears to have been driven largely by new lease rates. I was just curious if you think we could see a scenario where new lease rates nearly achieve the same level as renewals this year.

Keith Oden
President, Camden Property Trust

I don't think we're going to see anything like that, Austin, we did see a pretty decent increase in the April numbers and for the new lease rates jump to about 2.8%. I think it's more likely that the renewal rates will stay about where they are throughout the year in the 5%-5.5% range. I'd be surprised if the new lease rates got much above where they were for the April numbers. I don't think that's likely. I think it's likely that we'll see sort of steady improvement. The 2.8 may not even be repeated for the next two months after that, for the full year, that should be about the right number for new lease rates. On a blended basis, you're going to end up still closer to the 3%-3.5% lease rate gain for the year.

Austin Wurschmidt
Analyst, KeyBanc Markets

Got it. Thanks. Ric, just curious, what gives you the confidence that you think you can meet or exceed your acquisition targets, given you have talked about how competitive the transaction environment's been. You've clearly had some success early this year, but just curious, again, what gives you the confidence and then, what metros you're focused on, and are the deals that you're seeing from here stabilized transactions or more of the lease-up?

Ric Campo
Chairman and CEO, Camden Property Trust

Sure. Hitting the target's pretty easy since it's only $100 million. Exceeding it would be pretty easy given most transactions that we're looking at today are $100-plus million. $100 million doesn't buy as much as it used to in the past. In terms of the metros, we like the markets we're in. There's more value, probably in the Sun Belt markets. We are seeing a fair amount of merchant builder product that has gone through its lease-up but hasn't fully stabilized and really hasn't been managed as a stabilized property yet. That gives us the ability to create that upside from what the going-in cap rate is. All of the properties that we bought in the last sort of cycle here, all have the same attributes.

We're buying them in sort of mid four range and bringing concessions off, putting some Camden special service and activities in that should drive those cash flows up into the fives at the end of the second year. Most of them have been, I think all of them have been substantial discounts to replacement costs, anywhere from 10% to 17%, 18%. The Camden Rainey Street project we bought is at least a 17% discount to what it would cost us to build it today. That's sort of what we're looking for and where we're looking.

Austin Wurschmidt
Analyst, KeyBanc Markets

Great. Thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from Nick Joseph from Citi. Please go ahead with your question.

Michael Griffin
Analyst, Citi

Hi, this is Michael Griffin on for Nick. It seems that you've run at lower leverage levels recently, especially given the equity raise. How should we think about leverage levels going forward for the remainder of the year, have your long-term leverage targets changed at all?

Ric Campo
Chairman and CEO, Camden Property Trust

Sure. Our leverage, we've talked about this since 2009, that we were bringing our leverage down over a moderate period of time. It's taken us 10 years to sort of get here. We want to keep our leverage between four and five times debt to EBITDA. We don't even use that concept of debt to market cap anymore, given it became sort of obsolete during 2008 and '9. We're going to stay in that zone. When you look at what was going on in the first quarter, the bond market was pretty rocky at the end of the first quarter, or into the fourth quarter, and into the sort of mid part of the first quarter. Then it obviously improved dramatically along with the stock market and stock prices.

At the time when we were looking at these fundings, we decided to tap the equity markets as opposed to the bond markets, given the volatility in the bond market at the time. We're going to keep our powder dry to a certain extent, and part of that has to do with just our fundamental belief that we should operate with lower leverage, and we should get a better stock multiple from investors over a long period of time with that kind of leverage. Then second, we're getting to the point where I think this is the longest recovery in the history of the U.S. in June. With that said, it's just, I think, prudent to have lower leverage this late in the cycle.

We'd rather be at the lower end of the leverage spectrum versus the higher end of the leverage spectrum, so that when we do have a cycle, we have plenty of dry powder to acquire properties from folks that don't have that same view and have higher leverages and have to sell their properties in a down market.

Michael Griffin
Analyst, Citi

Got it. Thanks. That's very helpful. One other quick question on the Camden Rainey purchase. You've mentioned previously that Austin is one of your lower-growth markets. I'm just curious, is this more an asset-specific play, kind of to get more exposure to the market maybe? Sort of a little color kind of on that would be nice.

Ric Campo
Chairman and CEO, Camden Property Trust

Sure. It's definitely an asset-specific play. We've been monitoring this property for a couple of years. It is in the downtown area, and it's on the east side of Austin and not in the sort of core downtown, which makes it more affordable. When you look at Austin, the rents are $3 a foot plus in the downtown core, but they're less on the sort of east side of Austin. We like the idea behind being in downtown. You're 2 miles from UT. Google just broke ground on a property. We have WeWork across the street. It just balances our portfolio really well in Austin, brings our NOI contribution up a bit as well, which is important, and it gives us that balance between sort of high-end urban downtown product versus our suburban product as well.

We like that balance between urban and suburban, so that when you do have sort of cycles that the market will obviously have over time, we have that good balance from a diversification perspective.

Michael Griffin
Analyst, Citi

Got you. Thanks. That's it for me.

Operator

Our next question comes from John Kim from BMO. Please go with your question.

John Kim
Analyst, BMO

Thank you. On your acquisition pace being ahead of last year and ahead of guidance, are you more optimistic with your underwriting as far as rental growth assumptions, or is this mainly a function of your cost of capital improving?

Ric Campo
Chairman and CEO, Camden Property Trust

I think it's both. We have seen rental growth tick up a bit in some of these markets, given that we're late cycle in terms of just it's been good for so long, we saw an uptick in revenue growth, I think it sort of gives us a little bit of confidence that this could go on for a longer period of time than most people think. That does definitely give us a little more confidence. The fact that we have our debt where we want it, in this really low zone, gives us a little bit more capacity to be a little more bullish and buy more properties than we would've otherwise.

John Kim
Analyst, BMO

Okay. Then, you quoted an 18.6% rent-to-income ratio. That's lower than many of your peers, it's even lower than your main Sunbelt peer that I think they quoted 20% yesterday. Can you just remind us the parameters of how you calculate this figure?

Ric Campo
Chairman and CEO, Camden Property Trust

Yeah, that's household income divided by total monthly rental expense.

John Kim
Analyst, BMO

Average, not median and-

Ric Campo
Chairman and CEO, Camden Property Trust

No. It's the average.

John Kim
Analyst, BMO

Okay. Thank you.

Ric Campo
Chairman and CEO, Camden Property Trust

You bet.

Operator

Our next question comes from Trent Trujillo from Scotiabank. Please go with your question.

Trent Trujillo
Analyst, Scotiabank

Hi. Good morning, and thanks for taking the questions. A good quarter and a nice start to the year. Occupancy was up pretty materially in Atlanta, Dallas, and Charlotte on a year-over-year basis, each by about 100 basis points. These are also markets known for having elevated supply. Can you talk about how you're able to achieve these occupancy levels and how you're thinking about maximizing revenue in these markets during peak leasing season?

Keith Oden
President, Camden Property Trust

Yeah. Our entire portfolio right now at 95.8%, that's really strong for us historically. We've sort of targeted the mid 95s as an occupancy rate for a long time. In the markets where it really just a story of where the supply is. Yes, it's true there's a fair amount of supply in Charlotte, in Dallas, and Atlanta. It really just depends on what your footprint is. In the Atlanta market, there's a fair amount of activity around the Buckhead submarket, but a lot of our other communities in Atlanta are just not in the footprint where there's been a lot of new development. That's also true in Dallas, less true in Charlotte, and the story in Charlotte continues to be just decent, good enough job growth to continually sort of make the absorption numbers work.

The other thing is that I think in Ric's opening remarks, the fact that we are getting domestic in-migration to almost all of our core markets where job growth has happened in addition to the job growth, has got to be a factor that's continuing to give us the ability to absorb the number of all this new supply that, based on historical numbers of job growth and supply, would otherwise be a head-scratcher. I'm fairly convinced that a decent percentage of that story is the in-migration into our markets from domestically. By and large, a large proportion of those are in our prime renter cohort, the millennials in the 25-34 year range that have a higher propensity to rent.

When you look across our portfolio in total, every market that we're in has a 95-plus occupancy rate, and that's a really good place to be.

Trent Trujillo
Analyst, Scotiabank

Thank you for that detail. You touched on Charlotte, and you made that land purchase this past quarter very recently. Can you talk about the opportunity that you see there and what kind of stabilized yield you're anticipating for that development, and maybe how that compares to cap rates? Thanks.

Alex Jessett
CFO, Camden Property Trust

Yeah, absolutely. It's a NoDa neighborhood just outside of downtown Charlotte. It's about 400 units. Total cost is going to be about $100 million, and we are anticipating a yield of about 6.5%. Very healthy spread to what you could get on a new acquisition.

Trent Trujillo
Analyst, Scotiabank

Gotcha.

Operator

Our next question comes from Alexander Goldfarb from Sandler O'Neill. Please go ahead with your question.

Alexander Goldfarb
Analyst, Sandler O'Neill

Hey, morning. Morning down there.

Keith Oden
President, Camden Property Trust

Morning.

Alexander Goldfarb
Analyst, Sandler O'Neill

Hey, how are you?

Keith Oden
President, Camden Property Trust

Good.

Alexander Goldfarb
Analyst, Sandler O'Neill

Just a few questions on your markets. Some of the stuff that jumped out, L.A. Orange County was your strongest revenue growth market. Some of your peers had commented on their calls, recent weakness. Curious, is this just specific because of where your assets are located versus maybe, no downtown L.A. or what have you, that maybe you guys were better off based on where your assets are located? Have you seen some subsequent post-quarter weakness in your L.A. Orange County assets?

Keith Oden
President, Camden Property Trust

We're still tracking about the same as we did in the first quarter, which is really strong. Our outperformance relative to our plan in L.A. Orange County was $150,000 on revenue, it was not like it was a big surprise to us. The change in L.A. Orange County, a pretty decent part of that pickup was at one community. It's the Camden community in Hollywood, some of it was just burning off concessions from the prior year, in addition to which we got a one-time, our signage income, which came in in the first quarter, which is more of a timing issue from the prior year. Of the total outperformance of $150,000, a pretty good chunk of that was at the Camden. Again, not unanticipated for us.

Our footprint is a little bit different than many of our competitors in L.A. Orange County, our performance is really pretty much on track with where we expected it to be for the year.

Alexander Goldfarb
Analyst, Sandler O'Neill

Okay. Then the second question is on rent control. Colorado, the legislature voted down the overturn of the 40-year ban statewide there. We'll leave California aside because that's been enough discussed. Do you feel that your other markets would go more the way of Colorado, where politicians would understand that invoking rent control is counter to housing? Or are you getting a sense in some of the other Sun Belt markets where you are that maybe what is a coastal phenomena may creep in to some of your markets?

Keith Oden
President, Camden Property Trust

I don't think that's going to be the case. We have a couple of positive things in most of these markets, when we think about why we're in the markets we're in, it's about pro-business, it's about population growth and employment growth, and that drives job growth. At the end of the day, these markets are affordable markets from a cost of living perspective. Even if the rent sort of shock that you're getting in some of these other large markets where you have this imbalance between supply and demand that really drives the price of housing up, you just don't have that as much in these other markets. Because we can build and we can create that supply for the demand that's there.

There aren't any major markets that we are in that are considering rent control the way. There's always discussion about it, because at the lower ends, when you start thinking about teachers and firefighters and folks like that, they are getting pushed out into the suburbs. They can't live in the downtown or urban areas in any market, including Houston or Dallas or Austin. As you go out into the suburban areas, the price of housing drops pretty dramatically, and it becomes affordable. The argument of, well, they should be able to live in a downtown high-rise at $3 a foot is an interesting argument, people aren't trying to control that rent because they can go out into the suburbs and get properties at $1.20 or $1.30 a foot.

Alexander Goldfarb
Analyst, Sandler O'Neill

Okay. Thank you, Ric.

Operator

Our next question comes from Jeff Spector from Bank of America. Please go ahead with your question.

Jeffrey Spector
Analyst, Bank of America

Thank you. Good morning. I'm not sure if you discussed this already, so I apologize if you did, but can you talk about your thoughts on 2020 supply in your markets, especially in the Southeast, where clearly, demand is stronger than expected?

Keith Oden
President, Camden Property Trust

Yeah. For 2019, for the entire year, looking at completions, looking at Ron Witten's work, it looks like we get about 137,000 apartments across Camden's footprint in all of 2019. Just for comparison, last year, in 2018, we got 138,000. It's virtually identical in terms of the supply. Now, the location, it moves around a little bit from market to market, but in the aggregate, it's almost identical in terms of the completions. The flip side of that coin, though, is job growth, and Witten's numbers in Camden's footprint for 2019 actually had a pretty sizable increase from last year. He had total employment growth of 557,000 across Camden's portfolio last year, and he's got that number going up to 630,000 this year. I don't know what today's jobs number's going to do to his forecast, but it certainly couldn't hurt what his forecast is.

The interesting thing within that is that if you look at the total U.S. employment growth, and again, this is not reflective of this morning's number, but total U.S., Witten has job growth coming down from 2.7 million nationally in 2018 to 2 million even in 2019. A drop of 700,000 jobs nationally is his forecast, and yet Camden, across our portfolio, we're picking up about 80,000 jobs more than last year. It just reflects our thesis all along, which is we are in and want to continue to be in markets that grow employment and population that are better than the national average. Clearly, we're seeing that in a pretty big way between 2018 and 2019.

Jeffrey Spector
Analyst, Bank of America

Thank you. That's helpful. Are you able to comment on 2020 at this point?

Keith Oden
President, Camden Property Trust

It's coming, isn't it? No matter what you do, we're not going to talk about 2020 and how we think the market's going to be.

Jeffrey Spector
Analyst, Bank of America

On supply. That's all. I was only talking about supply.

Keith Oden
President, Camden Property Trust

If you limit it to completions and employment growth, Witten's forecast, yeah, sure. He's got the supply in Camden's markets ticking up in 2020, although there's I can tell you, it goes up to about 150,000 from 137. However, I would caution you that for the last three or four years, every forecast for completions has been moved out further because it takes longer and because of the labor shortages on getting these communities turned. Some of it's product type. You got more high-rise, so it just takes longer to construct and longer to lease up. Every forecast that we've seen for the last four or five years on year-out deliveries, some of those deliveries are going to slip. In the aggregate, yeah, it's somewhere around 150,000 apartments, unless subject to the slippage that we know occurs. Not a huge increase across Camden's portfolio.

Jeffrey Spector
Analyst, Bank of America

Okay, thanks. That's helpful. My second question, if you could just talk about Lincoln Square, the parking structure there that you can convert to apartments. We thought that was very interesting. What other ideas are you exploring or thinking about, especially when you're thinking about future disruption?

Ric Campo
Chairman and CEO, Camden Property Trust

Well, the good news is that it's really hard to disrupt a place to sleep. You can't digitize that. You need a place to sleep. You generally need a bathroom. You don't necessarily need a kitchen anymore, but that's the good news for apartments. We don't think disruption is going to be a major issue for our business. We do think that clearly transportation's going to be disrupted, and the use of real estate overall is going to be disrupted. If you look at parking as a percentage of the built environment, it's a little over 50% of the built environment in America today. When you start thinking about autonomous cars and ride share and things like that, most projections show that the amount of cars and the requirement for parking is going to be reduced over a reasonably short period of time, like 10 years.

Keith Oden
President, Camden Property Trust

What we've been doing is making sure that when we build our garages, like you're probably talking about a NAREIT story that was out there about our property in Denver. What we're doing is we're designing them in a way where we usually primarily use port and place concrete as opposed to sort of tinker toy concrete. In that way, the structures are more sound. They're always sound, but for sure, they're easier to convert on flat floor plates. We try to keep the circulation on the ends and make sure that we have plenty of chases for electrical and plumbing so that we can put those in and don't have to kind of break out concrete in the future. We're probably spending a little bit more in terms of future adaptation of those spaces, but it's not enough to move the needle on our returns.

They're still reasonable from that perspective. I think there's going to be a lot of interesting changes in the future, and everything is going to mobile, and it's already on mobile, and we're working on a lot of mobile solutions to help our residents with their lifestyle, from the ultimate package issue that's out there still that everyone's wrestling with. Ultimately, we think there'll be a mobile solution that allow packages to be put directly into the apartments via an app. I think that's going to be a really win for us, not only on the revenue side, because we think there's revenue opportunity there, but also on the expense-saving side, when you start thinking about not having to deal with a lot of those issues in the office, where our folks could actually deal with more customer service issues as opposed to those kind of issues.

Jeffrey Spector
Analyst, Bank of America

Great. Thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from Drew Babin from Baird. Please go ahead with your question.

Drew Babin
Analyst, Baird

Hey, good morning.

Keith Oden
President, Camden Property Trust

Morning.

Drew Babin
Analyst, Baird

Question sort of extending on Alex's question about Southern California. Could we maybe talk about D.C., where your revenue growth has also significantly outperformed what peers are seeing? Is that sort of a footprint issue as well, and are you seeing anything that's materially different, going from 1Q into April there?

Keith Oden
President, Camden Property Trust

When we look at it's a footprint issue. It really is. We just have a higher percentage of our assets that are more suburban. They're great assets. We have a very young portfolio in D.C. We just completed two new construction projects in D.C. Both of them leased up incredibly well at better than pro forma rent. You're talking about the difference is instead of in the downtown space in NoMa, it's $3 a square foot, and out in Camden Shady Grove, it's $2 a square foot. It's primarily a price point issue, and an asset mix issue. We did outperform in D.C. relative to our plan. We did about $160,000 better on the revenue side than what we thought we would do in the first quarter. It looks like that's continuing into April as well.

I would say the biggest difference from us and the peer group would be the footprint.

Ric Campo
Chairman and CEO, Camden Property Trust

I'm going to add one other comment on that, and that's the third level, which really is, it gets down to where the rubber meets the road, and those are the people that are working on those properties every single day. When Keith Oden mentions that Camden's been on this, Great Place to Work list for 12 years, it does matter when people are smiling and hitting customer service rates at 90%. We have an awesome team there, and they're able to squeeze out a little bit more revenue, I believe, than our competitors, and manage expenses a little bit better as well, just because they have that attitude and that culture.

Drew Babin
Analyst, Baird

Thanks for that. That's helpful. Just one more question from me on the pipeline. If you look at the five projects that are currently not in lease-up and under development, what are you looking at now in terms of stabilized yields on those? I guess that comment probably could extend to the lease-ups as well. Are there any projects that are maybe falling short or meaningfully exceeding original expectations?

Keith Oden
President, Camden Property Trust

The projects that are in lease-up are meeting our expectations, and they tend to be, if you look at those projects, they're more suburban projects, less urban. When you then move on to the ones that are under construction, these are seriously urban projects. When you look at the downtown project, Lake Eola, and also Buckhead, these are high-rise concrete construction projects, which are going to trend lower in terms of yield than the more suburban wood-frame projects. Our yield's going to be in the 6% range, ±, for the development communities, and they're probably more like the 6.5%-7% in the completed communities under lease-up.

Drew Babin
Analyst, Baird

Okay. I guess, too, just on the lease-up communities, Camden McGowen Station's a little different in that it's a little more urban and vertical.

Is that one where you're kind of hitting your ultimate goals? I know there has been some decent supply in downtown Houston.

Keith Oden
President, Camden Property Trust

Yes, we are. The lease-up velocity is pretty much on track. We're on track on our budgets, and it's going to be a great project. Houston has had the downtown area and Midtown. That's where all the supply has been concentrated. It's starting to move out into the suburbs now, but we're excited about that project, and it's going to be a great long-term asset for Camden.

Drew Babin
Analyst, Baird

Good to hear. That's all for me. Thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from Rich Anderson from SMBC Nikko. Please go with your question.

Richard Anderson
Analyst, SMBC Nikko

Thanks. Good morning. Ric, very interesting, 2020 is coming. Could you say the same thing about 2021? That would be very interesting to know.

Keith Oden
President, Camden Property Trust

I could, absolutely.

Richard Anderson
Analyst, SMBC Nikko

Okay.

Keith Oden
President, Camden Property Trust

It's coming too.

Richard Anderson
Analyst, SMBC Nikko

Thanks for the guide.

Keith Oden
President, Camden Property Trust

You're obviously a "Game of Thrones" fan, right?

Richard Anderson
Analyst, SMBC Nikko

Not at all, actually.

Keith Oden
President, Camden Property Trust

Okay.

Richard Anderson
Analyst, SMBC Nikko

I don't even know what it means. I have a question about a topic that came up last quarter on D.C., specifically the government shutdown. You guys had what you called a handful of folks that came back to you looking for rent relief or some sort of help in the midst of all of that. It made me think that perhaps the credit in terms of behind these rents is very month-to-month specific, and missing out on a paycheck for 30 days was enough to get people nervous. First of all, tell me I'm wrong. Hopefully. Second, why would it be so tight if you guys are underwriting your tenants so carefully so that it's not such a paycheck to paycheck type of scenario when it comes to your rents?

Ric Campo
Chairman and CEO, Camden Property Trust

Sure. Number one, our credit quality has not suffered at all. When you think about credit quality, if we had a credit quality issue, you would see bad debts tick up. Our bad debts have been very consistent for a long period of time. I do think, though, however, that people generally have issues when they're not getting their paycheck. Whether their credit is still good, but most people are not saving a lot, and it's a complicated dance. If you look at our 18.6 rent income, that tells us that they're spending money elsewhere, and a lot of them have other expenses that they have to deal with as well. I think part of it too is that you hear it in the media where the people are reaching out to the government workers who aren't getting paid.

They sort of think they can get something for free to a certain extent. Now, we didn't waive rent. What we did was waived late fees and worked with them to get the rent paid, and they actually all paid the rent. It was more of a timing issue than anything else, and like I said, it was a handful. The interesting thing, it wasn't just D.C., because the government workers were all over the country.

Richard Anderson
Analyst, SMBC Nikko

Yeah.

Ric Campo
Chairman and CEO, Camden Property Trust

We had some people in California, we had some people in Colorado. I don't think that if they miss one month of income, they're in trouble, but I think that several months would hurt most people.

Richard Anderson
Analyst, SMBC Nikko

Yeah, fair enough. Maybe you were just kind of responding to a human nature response to the situation. Is that a fair way to put it?

Ric Campo
Chairman and CEO, Camden Property Trust

Absolutely. We want to make sure that we take care of our residents, and customer service is a big issue. If somebody comes in and says, "Look, I can't pay my rent this week. I don't want a late fee." And I'm a government worker, you say, "Fine.

Richard Anderson
Analyst, SMBC Nikko

Okay.

Ric Campo
Chairman and CEO, Camden Property Trust

We sent that out. Actually, we were proactive on that, and then our team sent out guidance to everyone across the platform and said, "If somebody has an issue, take care of them.

Richard Anderson
Analyst, SMBC Nikko

Okay. Second question is sort of big picture. Do you guys have sort of a vision into being included in the S&P 500? I know you're not going to guide your strategy around that, but is that something that is on your radar screen that you care about significantly?

Ric Campo
Chairman and CEO, Camden Property Trust

Well, it'd be interesting and nice, I guess. We don't have any control over that.

Richard Anderson
Analyst, SMBC Nikko

Okay.

Ric Campo
Chairman and CEO, Camden Property Trust

I don't really worry about things I can't control.

Richard Anderson
Analyst, SMBC Nikko

Okay.

Keith Oden
President, Camden Property Trust

Yeah. I think it's something that we would all love to be a part of the S&P, but it's not like you go audition for it.

Richard Anderson
Analyst, SMBC Nikko

Right.

Keith Oden
President, Camden Property Trust

It would be an important thing, and it's a positive, there's no question about it, particularly in this world of index funds. It would be a good thing.

Richard Anderson
Analyst, SMBC Nikko

Yeah.

Keith Oden
President, Camden Property Trust

If anybody from S&P is on the line listening, we're available.

Richard Anderson
Analyst, SMBC Nikko

Outstanding. All right. Thanks very much. That's all for me.

Ric Campo
Chairman and CEO, Camden Property Trust

Yep. Good to have you back.

Richard Anderson
Analyst, SMBC Nikko

Thanks.

Operator

Our next question comes from Derek Johnson from Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead with your question.

Derek Johnston
Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Hey, everyone. How you doing?

Ric Campo
Chairman and CEO, Camden Property Trust

Good.

Derek Johnston
Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Are you still targeting around $300 million in annual development starts? Has that thinking shifted at all with the lower for longer rates, the stellar job and wage growth, and the probability of this being more of a super cycle versus end of cycle?

Ric Campo
Chairman and CEO, Camden Property Trust

We are continuing to target $300 million a year. The challenge that we have today is that construction costs continue to rise, land prices continue to rise, and finding transactions where we could ramp up that is real difficult. We're very focused on getting the right returns, and disciplined in how we allocate the capital. I do think that even lower sort of the economy going longer and rents doing well and all that is great, but we are still in late cycle, and we don't feel like that it makes sense to ramp it up dramatically. We really can't because of the constraints that we put on our return requirements. I guess if we decided to lower our hurdle rates and just sort of put the pedal to the metal, we could, but that's just something that, over the years, we just don't do.

Derek Johnston
Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Right. No, that makes sense. I don't know if someone asked this, and I apologize if I missed it, but expense growth driven by property taxes and payroll did seem to continue this quarter, was just looking to get your thoughts on when you see this elevated trend on expenses softening.

Ric Campo
Chairman and CEO, Camden Property Trust

Yeah. No, absolutely. If you look at, for the first quarter, property taxes were up 7.7%. We think for the full year, it'll be up actually 4%. The big difference between the two is that we're expecting about $2 million of refunds split between the second quarter and the third quarter. If you look at salaries were up about 6%. That's actually sort of in line with what we're expecting for the full year. If you recall, in 2018, we had a really good year for employee healthcare costs, which were very low. When we started this year, I sort of guided to the fact that we didn't think that would continue, that's what you're seeing.

Alex Jessett
CFO, Camden Property Trust

The last item on there is property insurance, which we talked about. The first quarter was a little bit higher than we expect the full year at about 24%. We actually think the full year is going to be closer to about 16%, but that's entirely driven by two factors. Number one, this is just a really tough renewal environment. When you look at all of the hurricanes that have happened in the last two years, and you think about wildfires in California, think about floods in the Midwest. Those all equally impact insurance providers, and ultimately, when things like that occur, they start to raise premiums. The second thing is that we did have some hail storms in the first quarter in Dallas that sort of dragged on these numbers a little bit too.

When we look at our full year, we feel really comfortable with our revised guidance for our full year expenses.

Derek Johnston
Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Okay, thanks. See you in June.

Alex Jessett
CFO, Camden Property Trust

Yep.

Operator

Our next question comes from Karin Ford, from MUFG Securities. Please go ahead with your question.

Karin Ford
Analyst, MUFG Securities

Hello. Good morning. I was wondering if the ramp on occupancy and new lease rent growth from the first quarter into April was better than seasonal trends, or just in line with what you normally see?

Keith Oden
President, Camden Property Trust

A little bit better than the seasonal trends. We were a little better than 1% for the quarter, and that jumped up to 2.8%. I think that'll moderate. I think that for the full year, we'll be somewhere in the 5%-5.5% on renewals, and somewhere in the ±2% on new leases over the platform. It gets us to somewhere around the 3.5% for the full year on lease growth. I think the April numbers, that's probably going to end up moderating some as we go forward.

Karin Ford
Analyst, MUFG Securities

Got it. Thanks.

Keith Oden
President, Camden Property Trust

You bet.

Karin Ford
Analyst, MUFG Securities

Just to follow up on the parking question, Ric, any sense for how much value could be hidden in your parking structures in your land if there does end up being a drastic reduction in parking needs in the future?

Ric Campo
Chairman and CEO, Camden Property Trust

Well, it could be substantial, for sure, because today, while we're charging some parking, we're getting basically pretty much zero revenue from that investment other than normal rent. Right? If you can actually convert a property from, say, a 300-unit apartment to a 500-unit apartment by adapting those parking garages, and you're going to make, call it, a 6% or 7% return on that investment, that's pretty substantial in the portfolio when you think about half of our real estate is probably parking.

Karin Ford
Analyst, MUFG Securities

Got it. Thanks.

Operator

Once again, if you would like to ask a question, please press star and then one. To withdraw your questions, you may press star and two. Our next question comes from John Guinee from Stifel. Please go ahead with your question. Sir, is it possible your line is on mute? At this time, in showing no additional questions, I'd like to turn the conference call back over to management for any closing remarks.

Ric Campo
Chairman and CEO, Camden Property Trust

Great. Well, thanks so much. We'll see you at Nareit, coming up. Appreciate the opportunity to be with you today. Thank you.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, with that, we'll conclude today's conference call. We do thank you for attending. You may now disconnect your lines.