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Earnings Call: Q3 2013
Oct 30, 2013
I would like to remind everyone that this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to turn the presentation over to Mr.
William Kent, Senior Director of Investor Relations. Mr. Kent, please go ahead.
Thank you, Jill, and thank you all for joining us today for our Q3 2013 earnings conference call. Earlier this afternoon, we announced our Q3 2013 financial results. A copy of the press release can be found on our website at crocs.com. We would like to remind everyone that some information provided in this call will be forward looking and accordingly are subject to the Safe Harbor provisions of the federal securities law. These statements include, but are not limited to statements regarding future revenue and earnings, backlog and future orders, prospects and product pipeline.
We caution you that these statements are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties described in the Risk section of the company's 2012 report on Form 10 ks filed on February 26, 2013 with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Accordingly, actual results could differ materially from those described on this call. Those listening to the call are advised to refer to Crocs' Annual Report on Form 10 ks as well as other documents filed with the SEC for additional discussion of these risk factors. Crocs intends that all of its forward looking statements in this call are protected by the Safe Harbor of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934. Prox is not obligated to update these forward looking statements to reflect the impact of future events.
The company may refer to certain non GAAP metrics on this call, including adjusted net income. Explanation of these metrics can be found on the earnings release filed earlier today. I'll now turn the call over to John McCarroll. Thanks Will. Thank you for joining us on our Q3 earnings call.
With me today is Jeff Lascher, Crocs' Chief Financial Officer. I'll begin the call today with a commentary on the Q3 followed by Jeff who will review the financial results for the Q3 and walk through our Q4 guidance. I'll then add some additional insights on our ongoing business before we take questions. Turning to the quarter. Our results for the Q3 were in line with the updated guidance we provided in early September.
While the Crux brand and business model remains strong, there's no doubt there was a more difficult quarter than we had anticipated at the time of our last earnings call. I want to highlight what went well during Q3 and also discuss factors that impeded our performance and what we're doing about them. Let's start with the regional view. We continue to be pleased with the performance of our Asia Pacific and European segments. Notably, we believe our European business has turned the corner and we are seeing positive signs in all segments of this business wholesale, retail and Internet.
Our performance in Europe continues to improve. Our wholesale business grew nearly 21% in the quarter. Our own retail stores recorded a 9% same store sales growth and we saw a 65% retail revenue growth overall. We also saw strong Internet sales growth in Europe in Q3 with online revenue rising 35%. While our product mix in Europe still skews towards the classic clog silhouette that's changing and our European consumers increasingly choose other styles with higher ASPs.
We've been particularly pleased with the performance of our winter boots and close toe silhouette. In Asia Pacific, same store sales grew 9% as we opened 15 new Crocs retail stores during the quarter. Internet sales rose nearly 26% as we added more local language sites to make it easier for more people and more places to shop products. We also saw continued support from our wholesale partners, although growth in this channel was a more modest 2.3%. Unfortunately, Crocs' strong performance in Asia Pacific and early indications of the turnaround in Europe were offset during the quarter by challenges in the Americas and Japan from both a company specific perspective and a macro perspective.
Beginning with the macro picture in the Americas, we're seeing decreased consumer optimism amongst our consumers. We're also seeing less discretionary spending for footwear, apparel and other consumer goods in the U. S. Although we continue to make progress on establishing Crocs as a 4 season brand, these trends as noted earlier by Coach Wolverine and others are having an outsized effect right now in what is traditionally our most challenging part of the year from a revenue perspective. I wish I could tell you we are expecting a big improvement in consumer confidence in the U.
S. Throughout the year, but we're not. We've come to the conclusion due to challenging back to school season, soft holiday indications, weaker employment growth numbers for the upcoming holiday season and the toll that ongoing battles over U. S. Fiscal policy take on our consumers, we expect to see this slower trend continue in the Q4.
We're not seeing consistent market data to support improvement in customer confidence and U. S. Retail sales as is evidenced yesterday in the data release from the conference board regarding October. In Japan, which represents 15% of our revenue, we continue to be affected by unfavorable exchange rates and decreased wholesale volumes. Revenue in our business in Japan declined nearly 23% during the quarter or $11,700,000 due to the weaker yen.
On a constant currency basis, the Japanese business declined a more modest 3%. So to summarize geographically, we're pretty pleased with the performance of 2 of the regions that represent nearly 50% of our business including our fastest growing region Asia Pacific. We're working hard to improve the performance of the other two regions, which represent the balance of our business. Now let's take a look at the business from a channel perspective starting with wholesale. In the U.
S, a challenging short summer followed by a tepid back to school season for many of our partners reduced our at once orders in the Q3. They're remaining conservative with at once orders for the upcoming holiday season 2. We have reflected that in our guidance we've given today. We see our key accounts maintaining lighter than historical levels and in many cases looking for brands to carry more at once inventory of their top selling styles. We are working closely with our wholesale customers to meet their needs while managing our inventory levels prudently.
In the Middle East, we've launched a new line of regional footwear, the Shamal collection, which has performed very well to date. In other key markets in Europe, in China and Korea, wholesale growth remains strong with double digit growth in each market. In our retail channel, we have touched on positive results in Asia Pacific and Europe. And growth in Asia Pacific is driven by core products and new collections of products, namely Boatline, Horace, the A Lee and Lee product collection. Positive growth in transactions, UTPs and conversion rates are generally in the low double digits.
Same store sales growth in Europe is driven by core products and a wider spectrum of new women's, men's and kid styles as the European consumer sees a wider portfolio of products from Crocs. Conversion rates in the low double digits where our new outlet stores are performing well in the quarter. We still see European consumers shopping for value products. In the Americas, our retail performance has not met expectations with the slowdown from late July through September. We experienced choppy traffic and demand in most retail locations throughout the U.
S. In comparison to many of our competitors, we were less promotional at retail in the quarter and thus did see a nominal lift in gross margin. Conversion rates in the U. S. Were in the high teens.
Japan remains highly challenging retail environment. Our information shows that Japanese consumer traffic in malls was 10% to 15% lower in the quarter, but conversion rates remained in the mid teens and average ASPs were higher. Even with the headwinds and negative same store sales in Japan, this continues to be the most profitable retail operations for Crocs globally. Now let's turn to the Internet. We continue to see strong online demand and relevance for the brand globally.
To grow our online business and to optimize performance, we're continuing to invest and develop our global analytics team, thus helping us to make better use of the data we have and allowing us to improve our online customer experience. In the Americas, the online environment remains challenging. Business with many of Crocs' e tail partners continues to grow, thus taking some traffic and business from Crocs. We're certainly pleased to see that on Amazon dotcom in July 23 at the top 100 styles sold were Crocs. However, we believe we're seeing some of the same showrooming challenges experienced by retailers in electronics and other categories that is impacting Crocs direct growth of our own already significant e commerce business.
Some positive takeaways for our U. S. E commerce business in the quarter were ASPs were up $4.66 or nearly 20%. Tablet acquisition was up 20% and mobile purchases were up nearly 10%. Users are truly acquiring our products how and when they want.
New products are driving ASP growth where our new Ailee closed toe wedge, our cap toe flats, men suede Santa Cruz and the new retro sneaker collection we launched this and the new retro sneaker collection we launched this fall. Conversion increased 37% in Europe and revenue increased 20% per transaction. This is excluding Russia. This is a broad based growth across many European countries. A few additional call outs I'd like to have today.
Having covered our regions and channels, I'd like to call your attention to a few things starting with product, which is the heart of our business. We are continuing to innovate to drive product diversity and become a 4 seasoned brand. This year's line was the most diverse in terms of silhouettes, but also the most focused by building assortment segment to specific channels. This effort has been led by the Busy Day collection developed for the active woman on the go. We also have infused our core collections with the refresh to our Fuzz collection Blitzen 2 and Blitzen 2 Convertible.
Expand wearing occasions for our female consumer, we also launched a fallwinter version of our A League product line, which has performed well to date. For a male consumer, we continue to see the strength in our casual loafer business highlighted by our Walloo and Santa Cruz franchises. Heading into 2014, we will continue to build on our franchise around core clogs, translucent canvas, our boating line and now busy day in Wedges including Lee and Ailey. The innovation engine that we have built continues to generate results. For 2014, we'll be launching a stretch sole product which allows the sole to stretch to articulate with the foot creating unmatched comfort building opportunities to open new accounts, attract new consumers and raise price points.
Additionally, in 2014, we will introduce ColorLight, a leather like product made from a proprietary cross light material. ColorLight will have an immediate impact on enhancing our product line and long term drive down to cost savings as we expand into more styles. With our spring summer 14 campaign, we'll be building on a brand position in the casual lifestyle space called Find Your Fund. The Find Your Fund campaign will engage consumers with the global message that Crocs love color, creativity, individuality, passion for positivity that drives us to deliver fun and different footwear experience for people around the world. Find Your Fund will serve as a true brand platform
for our
customer experience interactions and will be integrated into all of our marketing activities. Another brand building news, much of 2013 has been dedicated to laying the foundation for a global CRM platform and loyalty program that will roll out starting in early 2014. To date, we have done successfully leveraging our global newsletter database with millions of consumers to communicate our greatly expanded product offering across 4 seasons and effectively drive them to visit and purchase from our global e commerce sites as well as our retail stores. Our new CRM platform and loyalty program provides us with an exciting new opportunity to enrich consumer brand engagement and recognition to the sizable newsletter base and extend participation to our global fleet of retail stores that attract 1,000,000 of consumers annually. We are bullish that this program will bolster loyalty from the more than 70% of our global consumers who have purchased more than 2 pairs of shoes over the past year from our retail locations and e commerce site site respectively.
We remain focused on retail excellence. While overall retail performance is mixed, we are investing significant time in this area to improve future performance. Some of the key initiatives are store site selection, our store footprints and build out costs, the rollout of our Oracle retail planning systems globally, our Kronos labor management software that we deployed this year also globally to name a few. We engaged earlier this year with the Alex partners on best retail practices and are implementing some of these programs today globally. Our new Bluewater and Bluewater Lite concept stores allow us better showcase of our casual lifestyle range of products and it elevates the brand perception with new and existing customers.
During 2013, we worked hard on identifying segmentation and distribution opportunities. Our market analysis says that we are 33% of our total distribution of the total available market identified. We believe we have a diverse product line that provides significant growth opportunities for the future when properly segmented and sold. We also continue to build strength in our own retail management capabilities. In Asia Pacific, Steve Castle, Diner VP for Direct to Consumer Channels in the region joined us earlier this year and is bringing the benefit of his 2 decade of experience with Levi Strauss and Adidas.
In Europe, Tim Lyons recently joined our team as the Head of Retail Operations after prior stints with Nike, Marks and Spencer and the Gap. These two hires are examples of the last thing that I want to call out and that's leadership. We've been working hard to find the right people on the bus by building a world class Crocs Management team. The recent addition of Greg Sullivan as General Manager for our Americas business after distinguished management career at Walmart will bring a new focus and energy to our efforts and improve the performance in this critical region. Terrence Riley, formerly the Vice President of Marketing for Famous Footwear is now leading our Americas marketing team.
Lastly, Laurent Bailly, formerly our Vice President for the Middle East and Africa has been named our General Manager for our Asia Pacific region and we're confident that this region will continue to prosper under his leadership. Crocs continues to attract high caliber brand business and retail leaders to help shape and implement our plans for a profitable growth. I'll be back with some closing comments. But for now, I'll turn the call over to Jim. Thank you, John.
Hello, everyone, and thanks again for joining us. What I'd like to do is go through the factors that impacted our Q3 results and our guidance for Q4. In the Q3, we had various challenges that impacted our results. These include a more challenging wholesale market in the Americas and Japan, a decline in Internet volume in the Americas, unfavorable foreign exchange rates, ongoing expenses associated with SAP and increased marketing investments. Partially offsetting these issues was an overall increase in revenue from our Europe business with particular success of wholesale volume up 28%, Internet volume and same store sales in Europe up 9%.
Our Asia business also saw strong same store sales of 9% over last year. In total, on a year over year basis, our net earnings were down $32,000,000 compared to 2012. Our tax expense for the quarter was up $10,000,000 as compared to the credit and tax expense last year. We had an overall impact of about $7,000,000 associated with the stronger U. S.
Dollar compared to last year in Japan. In addition, we had SAP expenses of $2,000,000 over prior year and an additional marketing investment of $2,000,000 For the quarter, revenues decreased $7,000,000 or 2 percent to $288,500,000 for the quarter. On a constant currency basis, revenue was up 1%. Revenue for the quarter was down mainly due to a soft wholesale market in our Americas segment as a result of conservative customer inventory demand throughout the United States, lower than expected e commerce volume in the Americas as well as unfavorable foreign currency by a 2% increase in ASP, which was $23.11 in the quarter. Clogs represented 45% of unit sales in the quarter, down from 48% last year, while non clogged boots, wedges, loafers and women's casual shoes increased as a percent of overall unit sales.
Overall, our retail revenue increased 11% over 2012 levels, as we added 95 net new locations since the end of last year's Q3. Global retail same store sales decreased 2% from last year with Americas down 7%, Asia Pacific was up 9%, Europe was up 9% and Japan was down 14%. Gross profit decreased $7,200,000 or 4.5 percent to 153,600,000 Gross margin percentage decreased 120 basis points for the quarter. This activity was mainly driven by unfavorable foreign currency fluctuations in our Japan segment, offset partially by improving gross margins in our Europe wholesale business and leverage from distribution and fulfillment costs. Selling, general and administrative expenses increased $15,000,000 or 12% to $136,000,000 for the quarter.
We specifically expensed $3,000,000 quarter to date for our new SAP Enterprise System development costs. In addition, we saw an increase of $9,000,000 in retail related costs including rent, personnel and operating expenses of 95 additional retail stores as we ended the quarter with 5.94 retail locations, up from 4.99 last year. Our healthy balance sheet continues to be a source of notable strength. We had global cash reserves of $333,000,000 with limited debt and believe that we will continue to grow cash balances from operations. In addition, we ended the quarter with inventory of $176,000,000 Our cash balances globally increased $43,000,000 in the quarter.
Revenues from the Americas segment decreased $16,000,000 or 12% compared to the same period in 2012. Wholesale channel revenue decreased $11,300,000 or 20% and Internet channel revenue decreased $5,500,000 or 33%. These decreases were partially offset as retail channel revenue increased $1,000,000 over the prior year. During the quarter, revenue from the Asia Pacific segment increased $6,400,000 or 9% compared to the same period in 2012. Revenue growth for this region was realized in all three channels as we retained strong support from our wholesale channel customers, continued to focus on disciplined expansion of our retail channel as we opened net 15 company operated stores during the quarter and have seen benefits from new consumer friendly web stores in various countries through our Internet channel.
Wholesale channel revenue increased $1,000,000 or 2.3 percent and consumer direct channel overall revenue increased $6,000,000 or 18%. Revenues from the Japan segment decreased $12,000,000 or 23% driven by a $10,000,000 unfavorable impact from foreign currency fluctuations due to this year's recent decreases in the value of the Japanese yen relative to the U. S. Dollar. Retail revenue on a constant currency basis increased 17%, while wholesale revenue declined 11% in prior year.
Specifically, with the yen declining 18% versus the U. S. Dollar in the quarter, year over year reported revenue was reduced by 3% on a consolidated basis. This had had a approximately 300 basis point impact on our overall company gross margin and 230 basis point impact on our operating margins. This represented $0.11 of EPS decline
year over year.
Our Europe segment increased $14,000,000 or 36 percent compared to the same period in 2012. Revenue growth for the region was realized in all three channels. Retail channel revenue increased $7,400,000 or 65%. Wholesale channel revenue increased $4,700,000 or 21%. Internet channel revenue increased $1,900,000 or 35%.
To reiterate the quarter results, in total on a year over year basis, our net earnings were down $32,000,000 compared to 2012. Our tax expense was up $10,000,000 as compared to the credit last year. Had an overall impact of about $7,000,000 associated with the Japanese yen. In addition, we had SAP expenses of $2,000,000 and marketing investment of $2,000,000 Moving on to guidance for Q4. In the Q4, we expect revenue to be flat to somewhat down compared to the prior year as we forecast revenue of $220,000,000 to $225,000,000 which on a constant currency basis is about 1% to 4% over last year.
And we estimate a loss of $0.20 to $0.23 per share. We expect gross margins in the 4th quarter to be down from prior year and SG and A expenses to increase faster than revenue as a result of additional retail store locations. We plan to end the year with just over 600 company owned locations and about 1700 total partner stores around the globe. Backlog at the end of second quarter is up from prior year. Total backlog as of September 30 is $399,000,000 up $4,000,000 from 2012 or 1%.
However, on a constant currency basis backlog is up 4%. Currency expectations are now 98 for the end and 1.35 for the euro. Thanks. I will now turn the call back over to John for some closing comments before taking questions. Thanks, Jeff.
As we end as we near the end of our prepared remarks today, I want to give an update on our stock repurchase authorization. I'm pleased to announce on October 29, this year 2013, the company's Board of Directors approved an additional 15,000,000 shares under the existing 2,007 stock repurchase authorization. This brings the total shares available for repurchase by the company under the existing authorization to approximately 17,800,000 shares. The number of price and timing will be at the company's sole discretion and will be evaluated depending upon market conditions, liquidity needs or other factors. In closing today, as in the past, our strategy for profitable growth has 3 pillars.
The first is optimizing our multi channel go to market strategy. Our priorities in this area at this moment are improving management of a challenging retail dynamic in the U. S. In part by balancing the number of full line and outlet stores and solving for the same in Europe. Strategically growing our retail presence in South in Asia Pacific, sorry, which continues to offer tremendous promise.
We are experimenting with ways to make it easier than ever to purchase Crocs for the channel agnostic consumer. We're continuing to invest in how our consumers experience the brand digitally across all platforms from desktop, laptop, computers, tablets to smartphones or to other types of in store interactive displays ensuring a seamless experience for our consumers regardless of the time and day and physical location. The second strategic pillar is product. We're expanding our partnerships and licensing activities to offer our consumers outstanding properties from our footwear collection collaboration with Duck Commander inspired by the AE hit Duck Dynasty to a very special line designed exclusively for Crocs by Project Runway Star Mondo Guerra. In late spring, we will launch a new footwear partnership with Star Wars coinciding with the May 4th be with you featuring a new limited edition Star Wars production products available on May 4th.
I'm sure many of you will be pleased to know that our Star Wars line for the first time will come in adult sizes also. The 3rd pillar of our growth strategy is the Crocs brand through effective innovative marketing that connects with our consumers, brings new consumers to the brand and embodies our signature attributes of color, comfort and fun most
of all.
Lastly, I'm sure you're all aware of the devastating floods that impacted our home state of Colorado last month. I'm proud to say that Crocs donated more than $75,000 in product and monetary donations to flood victims and first responders. Given the mud and water that they were dealing with, our boots and other easy to clean footwear styles were the right thing at the right time. Prox employees in Colorado also volunteered to help out with recovery work and I want to thank them for their willingness to assist their neighbors. In closing, the strength and potential of this company remains clear to all of us here at Crocs.
Despite the challenging times we are managing through in North America and Japan. We have a strong global brand, a broad and expanding product line, a business model that we continue to fine tune, a very strong balance sheet that gives us the ability to invest in business while returning capital to shareholders. We also have a dedicated team of Kratos employees at our headquarters in the region. We're working hard to improve our company's performance and I'd like to thank them for their dedication. With that, we'll open up the line to take your questions.
Thank
And our first question comes from Erinn Murphy with Piper Jaffray.
Great. Good afternoon and thank you for taking my question. I have two questions, one for John and then just a quick clarification for Jeff. John, just on the backlog kind of being up 4% on a constant currency basis, I recall it was up kind of closer to double digits, kind of midway through September. Could you just speak to kind of what some of that delta is maybe either by region?
I mean, recognizing the U. S. Has been a very tough market of late. Just help us think about what is involved in that backlog? And at this point, what's the visibility you have from the backlog on to the spring early spring orders?
So that's my first question for you. Thank you.
I think as we try to communicate at each stage, at each different date and time where we are at relative to backlog, I think today we continue to see orders continue to come in for 2nd quarter delivery from major markets in the Americas and in Japan, major customers in those two markets. And so what I think you're going to continue to see this year different than other years is just the order pattern is a little bit later. Most of our customers that had carryover product from 2013 2014 have placed their orders to fill in the lines or take new products for their Q1 deliveries. But what I think you'll see when we give the update on December 31 is increased backlog specifically in those two markets, which will put us more in line with prior expectations.
And we'll go next to Deepak Chopra with Goldman Sachs.
Good afternoon. John, I was hoping to just get some more context around your not really the timing of your share buyback, but more about the philosophy. So if I just go back over the past 12 months, you guys reactivated your share buyback program in the Q4. You bought a little bit and stopped. At our conference in September, you spoke about deploying about $80,000,000 to $100,000,000 of domestic cash.
Now you're increasing that amount through your authorization that's about 20% of the company. So I guess the obvious question that I have is, how do we think about urgency to actually activate that authorization? And then second part of that question would be how you plan on funding it?
So I think first message is that as of yesterday the company's Board of Directors approved an additional $15,000,000 under the 2,007 stock repurchase authorization. The total available to repurchase now is 17 800,000 shares. As you know, we have constantly monitored the marketplace as well as our cash needs internally. And depending on market conditions and liquidity needs, we've made some decisions in the past to dip into the market to purchase back some shares. We do have cash in the Americas geared up for share repurchases.
And if the management team makes the decision to move forward with share repurchases, we will update you at the end of the next quarter as far as our activity.
Okay. That's helpful, Jeff. And then a question on Japan, just
the philosophy towards retail
growth in that country. Your towards retail growth in that country. You're growing your
store base. I think it
was up about 40% year over year this past quarter. You're comping down 16% constant currency year to date. So I guess at what point do you revisit the store growth strategy in that country?
Well, I think as you look at this year, a few of the stores that we have added have really actually been where we have taken over partner stores in mall locations where the mall operators in Japan require the brand itself to run those outlet stores. So some of the additions of retail in Japan has really been a transfer of existing stores from partners to products with a few additions in key locations that we had in the pipeline dating back a year ago. We've looked at what our retail growth strategy will be in Japan next year. There will be a nominal number of stores somewhere in probably the 3 to 5 range, but we agree that we're continuing to look at whether we want to add additional stores in that market given the overall macroeconomic issues that they're facing. A sales tax that will kick in, in early April of 2014 will also have an impact on consumer spending.
So yes, we are constantly looking at revising our thinking about expansion in Japan in 2014.
Great. And just one quick one, just squeeze in the third question is,
I don't know if
you addressed this, I hopped on late, but 32% decline in the Americas Internet business. What happened there?
What I commented on to questions that I went through, my overview is really what we see is a lot of growth with other e tailing partners today that buy a wide spectrum of Crocs shoes. So whether that be Amazon, Zappos, Shoe Buy or any of the other partners that we have in the tailing space, we're just we're not buying business. We're not chasing revenue by giving away margin dollars. And so we're seeing the growth. We have a sizable e commerce business in the U.
S. That was built up years ago ahead of other brands. And what we're seeing today is some of that business is moving from our own side to them buying that product with their prime shipping capabilities with Amazon or within other retailers. So we just see it as a shift more than it is actual consumption dissipation. And I guess that's specific to the Americas region because it seems like Europe and Asia
are actually performing quite well online.
Is that fair? Yes. There's a little bit different dynamic. I think Europe has been proactive in working with Amazon and cleaning up the marketplace activities that also create havoc for balance today. The U.
S. Is a little bit behind in that activity in doing that, but we are actively working at the 3rd, Q4 of this year. That ticks away a little bit from our own e commerce operations. So we don't have that dynamic in the other markets. And the growth in Asia is on a much smaller base of revenue than it is in the U.
S. Got you.
Okay. Well, thank you and good luck.
We'll go next to Jim Duffy with Stifel.
Thanks. Good afternoon. A question on the operating margins, near 14% in 2012, looking like 8% or so in 2013. Can you put some tape around the main factors that led to the margin compression?
Yes. I think as we called out in the prepared remarks, the number one item for us for this year has been the Japanese yen movements in total. For just Q3, we saw 2 30 basis point operating margin degradation associated with that particular dynamic. And that's probably the biggest mover. In addition Yes.
Do you have a sense
for what that is for the year?
That will be a little bit higher actually for the year. It will probably be more like 250 to 300 basis points for the year, because the quarter for Japan is actually relatively light relative to the balance for the year. So if we looked at it on a year to date basis, which we do internally, the currency dynamic has actually impacted us round about 300 basis points for the year. I think Jim, to add to what Jeff said, you have another $6,000,000 impact for the Brazilian settlement. You have another $6,000,000 to date on SAP.
And then you have as we had communicated, as we started 2013 that we were going to up our marketing spend heavily in the U. S. With the number of new styles that we had coming out, that would be kind of a one time spend to help push new styles into the marketplace and bring new consumers to the brand. So we look at 4 different dynamics there that have really caused the majority of the impact.
And John, are there any straight lines to a bottom in the Japan business?
Well, I mean, I think what we see and the time that we spend in market with them, I think that they've seen a certain bottoming out. The fact that we're down 3% for the quarter, some up in our wholesale business, people continuing to add doors. Our partners are continuing to add doors and investment into 2014. We will add additional doors wholesale doors in the market. So it's not that there aren't opportunities for the brand to grow.
I think what's key for us right now is to ensure that really we've hit bottom on retail coming out of 2013. And as I said in my prepared remarks, I think we all were very honest about how much that business benefited by a $90,000,000 $78,000,000 to the dollar impact even with the pullback and a more even level of revenue in our retail stores, it's still our most profitable region and it's still our most profitable retail operation. So we think that we're at a place where if we can sustain this going forward and then start to grow our wholesale business in Japan, we think we're in a good place with the brand and with product to be able to do that.
Okay. And then John, you listed a number of things core to the strategy. Certainly, it sounds like there's a lot of hard work going on across the organization. Can you talk in more specific terms about how those strategies are going to help you recapture the operating margin?
Well, it really starts with retail. We have to continue to comp our business in Europe and Asia as we have. We have to flatten where we're at from a Japan standpoint. And clearly the work is in front of us in our U. S.
Retail group. I mean we're ecstatic to have Greg on board now. We waited for a period of time for him to transition from Walmart. And we think we have a really good retailer now to head up that organization and start to provide more leadership towards running that business. We think that there's an opportunity to be more profitable and to seek comp store growth in 2014.
It's all about execution right now. And I laid out a number of key strategies. Our business has 6 key strategies for 2013 and they're very similar for 2014. So we don't have a myriad of different things that we're trying to work on. And one of our key elements, number one element for the business for 2013 and for 2014 is retail excellence.
And we've invested in retail with the AlixPartners coming in early in the year to really pull it all apart with us. Look at how we go to market, look at how we buy and allocate products, look at how we run our retail stores and you know how that works. You don't generate all the benefit immediately, but we're seeing benefit as time goes on. And hopefully, we're going to see more benefit in 2014.
Okay. Thank you.
We'll go next to Scott Craseck with BB and T Capital Markets.
Yes. Hi, everyone. Thanks. I just want to clarify John your comments about the backlog accelerating when you report the Q4. So Americas was down I think 12% or so.
Are you assuming that that's going to be up 10%? Was that what your general goals were for spring 2014?
What we think Scott is really in the next basically 60 days. We're going to continue to see on an account by an account basis additional orders flow into both our U. S. Marketplace and for Japan where we have key customers that are booking 4.15, 5.15 delivery dates for products that they have not placed orders for today. And just to add to that Scott, the pre books for the Americas since September 30 and internally we look at their pace of pre books that are coming in and they've already closed about a third of that gap that you identified.
So the orders are coming in and we have some confidence around that
statement. Okay.
So in terms of the Okay.
So in terms of
deliveries though Q1
is done and that's also a function of they took in a lot of the product last year earlier. So there is it just like the normal weather delay? You had a better Q1 than Q2 in terms of wholesale deliveries. So is it really a function of the comparison?
So I think last year because of the number of new sounds that we had new doors and a couple of key accounts that we added last year namely Rec Room Off Broadway that took products early. We just saw after 2 seasons of early spring, a lot of the wholesale accounts being not having enough product for that early spring had pulled deliveries into 115, 215 and even 315. So I think we're seeing next year that kind of more even spreading of orders into a 4.15 4.1, 4.15, 5.1 delivery date. So yes, we are seeing them not as aggressive as they were in 2013 with orders.
Okay. That's helpful. And then Jeff in terms of the Q1 operating margin in Japan that was down to 25% from 41% the year before. Was that already part of a yen weakening? And so do we anniversary that?
And all else being equal, what are the pressures on Japan operating margins after we've anniversaried the yen weakening?
Yes. I think number 1, the yen dropped last year and the end of December is when their monetary policy changed and the yen dropped versus the U. S. Dollar to close out 2012. So we've been impacted by this for the vast majority of 2013 and we will anniversary or lap that beginning of 2014.
The important thing to notate on there, Japan backlog that we report externally on how much they have and we say this is what they did last year and this is what they're doing this year. The Japan backlog may be down $18,000,000 on a U. S. Dollar basis, but you have to factor in that last year that $70,000,000 of backlog that was reported today was at $80,000,000 end of the $52,000,000 of yen that was reported today is in $100,000,000 to the dollar, dollars 98,000,000 to the dollar. So when you kind of factor it in that we're going to record that $52,000,000 at the same exchange rate, we're going to be looking at a backlog release in the first half of roundabout that 4% to 5% growth rate in next year.
That's good. Just and then but to answer the question in terms of once you've lapped the yen pressures, what are the swing factors then in the Japanese operating margin going forward?
Well, I think they have a competitive marketplace that John talked about. They continue to diversify their product portfolio and merchandise their product portfolio better on a year over year basis. They do have a more aggressive issue with substitute products that compete with us in our space. We are addressing that through constant product innovation.
Okay. Thank you.
And we'll go next to Sam Poser with Stern A. G.
Thanks for taking my question. Just did you guys buy back stock after the end of the quarter? Because on the cover page of the Q, we couldn't sort it out. Could you tell us what's going on there?
Sam, if you look at the reported shares outstanding on page 3 of the Q, you'll see that the number is the same as it was last quarter on the documentation on the page 3, which is the official record of our shares as of September 30 and as of June 30. So no, we did not do any share repurchases in the quarter. We bought WEX shares in the Q1 of a little over 2,000,000 shares in the Q1 if I recall right and we did not do any share repurchases in Q2.
If I can follow-up on the cover of the Q2 Q, you had 91,600,000 shares and the cover of the Q3 Q, you had 88,400,000 shares.
Yes. At the end of the second quarter, we were picking up a number that included diluted shares in total including
restricted shares,
total number of issuance. So, number of issuance. So, included the treasury stock. So that was an area that we fixed later on. So what you're looking at is kind of apples to oranges.
So we did not do any share of
it. All right. Thanks. And then, if I can ask about the marketing spend. 1, can you talk about what that additional $2,000,000 in the quarter was used for?
And 2, you said that it was a one time event, but are you going to when you think about marketing next year, how do you think about it? You're going to have additional costs for the for your store base. You're going to have less cost on some of those other charges such as SAP and so on. How does this all how do you think about this all playing out from an absolute from a dollar perspective?
Yes. So kind of 3 maybe 2 questions in one. So first is that we had said that this would be a 1 year incremental spend on a percentage basis to our 2013 revenue. So as we finish up our 2014 planning right now, we're basically flat to 12 with a few specific incremental spend items that we're going to do. We have a big promo in China with the Chinese star there that will be basically an overall Asian play in that space for us, which will be incremental to that 12 run rate.
On the $2,000,000 spend additional spend in the quarter, Sam, it's across the globe. We spent additional money here in the U. S. On print advertising, social, social, digital ads, additional spend in Europe, Japan and the U. S.
On conversion for e comm. So that 2,000,000 dollars was really distributed across all three channels and in all four geographies.
And did it bring you what you wanted?
I think what we've learned over time is marketing spend has about a 6 month delay in conversion. If we look at spend in prior years, just because we put something out in front of a consumer that doesn't mean that they're ready to buy it. And I placed that idea in their mind that, hey, this is something interesting. And when I go buy a sandal, I'm going to go look at that product or I'm going to go buy a flip flop or a new pair of sneakers. So we look at some of our marketing spend as pure conversion, some of it is brand building.
And I think we're going to see for a
wide distribution of new styles
that we have this year from wedges to 1st part of the year, the retro sneakers in the back out there. Are we engaging and bringing new consumers to the brand? We see a number of new consumers coming into the brand buying new products. So I think we're going to see as we go forward whether that's going to be an accretive spend for the company. We placed it in the places where we want it to be and now we'll see if we're going to bear fruit.
The e commerce spend though would get a faster result. So can we assume that you didn't spend a lot of money on e commerce in the United States or in the Americas?
That would be fair.
Thank you.
And our next question comes from Mike Schwartz with SunTrust.
Good afternoon, guys. This is Mitch in for Mike. Most of my questions have been answered. But just on the retail side of the business, comps were down 4% in the 3rd quarter. Was there a material difference in the comp performance in the Yum!
Stores versus those of your more mature cohort?
I think in the older stores, there's a certain segment of those older stores, which were placed in locations where we thought about them as marketing locations years ago. As time has gone on though, I think the way that we look at it is more what do outlets and some of the newer high traffic locations look like outlets continue to perform well. Outlets for us are running this year above 100% of their pro form a P and Ls when we looked at making those investments. So we're encouraged by the performance of new locations. And so and it's also as we talk about our business both in Jeff's comments out in New York and September as well as what we said today, most of that investment going forward, whether it's in Europe or in the United States is mainly in the outlet sector for 2013 going into 2014.
Okay. And then just on your outlook for Europe, obviously, it was a highlight this quarter.
How do you
see that market trending in the Q4 and into next year?
Forecast for Europe for the Q4 is up about 20% year over year. We think the management changes that we made there 2 years ago, the organization we have in place, growth of wholesale doors, the performance improved performance of retail as we've seen this year with another good comp quarter, the addition of Tim Lyons to that group to add another retail experience, retail leaders who are growing our retail business there. We're very upbeat on our European business. And of course, our e commerce business has performed very well in the last two quarters in Europe.
Okay. Thanks, guys. Best of luck.
And we'll take our last question from Scott Krasek with BB and T Capital Markets.
Yeah. Hey, thanks. Because there's 1 quarter left now, can you guys give us the Asia Pac and Japan sales and operating income breakdown for the 4Q last year?
Yes. I'll give you last year hold on one second. So why don't I just do this? I'll just give you Japan. So last year, our Japan business generated $24,200,000 of U.
S. Dollar revenue. It had an operating income of $4,600,000 in Q4.
Okay. That's helpful. And then, John, you sort of alluded to it before with Amazon and that type having some pressure on your Internet business. But given that they don't have a lot of pricing respectability, if you will, what does that do for your 200 plus stores in the U. S?
And if you knew that you'd be going into more promotional retail environments or e commerce environments, would that change your strategy in retail in the U. S?
Well, I think that there's 2 parts to that. The first part is how marketplace operates within Amazon and how our existing wholesale partners use that for them to sell products, which in turn creates the dynamic within Amazon algorithm that looks at pricing. And so it's really a matter of how do you address the first issue. Second thing of it is, is then we talked about this really repeatedly over the last 2 years is continuing as Dale and our product development group continues to provide a larger portfolio of products that how we work on tiering and segmentating of products. And so what you're going to continue to see in the 14 years is that not all products are going to be sold in all channels and we're doing a much better job going into 14 and putting the right products in right place.
That will also help our own retail stores. In terms of selling the type of products that we want to sell in our retail stores, you're going to see limited edition or limited quantity types of shoes rolling into our full price stores next year. Next year you see outlet starting to have a more segregated line of products where we have outlet specifically built products for outlet. So as we mature and we start to segment and tier a little bit better, Scott, I think you're going to see that start to dissipate. Is it going to be perfect?
The answer is no, but it's going to take us a little bit of time to work through that. But there's a clear strategy and plan in place to be able to make it a win win situation.
Are you going to be there in terms of product segmentation for spring 14 then where you want it to be?
I think you're 75%, eighty percent of the way there. We're happy with where we're getting and where we're getting from a marketplace standpoint also. So I think we see improvements on the horizon here and hopefully that will help us to start U. S. Our Americas business next year.
Okay. Thanks.
And we'll take a follow-up question from Sam Poser with Cerna
AG. Thank you. Scott sort of it was sort of asked and answered to some degree. But a lot of in the prepared remarks when you talked about a lot when the business wasn't good
especially in the States you talked about a lot of the macro things. I guess
the thing what like in the macro things. I guess the thing what like in the Americas what are you doing the macros will fix everybody evenly. So what are you doing to change to be aggressively changing against that so you can overcome the macro offer better product, fix make the stores more efficient, work with your retailers in a different manner and so on and so forth?
Yes. I think we've covered a number of different things in the retail space and I'll let Jeff kind of add to this. But Sam, I think on the retail, we've taken inventory levels down over the last 2 plus years by being better at allocating, planning, merchandising, buying for the stores, how we segment, how we distribute and how we replenish products. So a lot of work that's been done from a system standpoint and from a philosophical standpoint towards how we approach retail, how we segment out between full price stores and for our own outlet channel. I think the same thing is carrying over into how we take our flats, how we take our wedges even within wedges, what we put into what channel where translucence goes, how we handle for Rache, where sneakers go, all the different elements of our product line are being segmented and tiered in a more effective way.
Yes. And Sam, I think as John mentioned in his prepared remarks, we're taking a hard look at all of our channels and regions to see where we can accelerate a growth pattern that's acceptable to all of us. We're certainly proud of our growth into a diverse 4 season footwear company and continue to design products that surprise and please our customers. As we look out into 2014, we're going to continue to focus on innovation to bring customers the footwear products that they want fun, colorful, comfortable new styles like the Stretch Soul line, which fits your foot. We'll also enter into other line extensions of our popular Rache sandals, boat shoes and the classic clog.
And as John mentioned in the back half of the year, we'll be introducing the color light program in an expanded version of Busy Day. The Color Light program in an expanded versions of Busy Day. So when you look at our product portfolio for 2014, we're pretty excited about the upcoming year.
Thank you.
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