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Earnings Call: Q2 2022

Dec 22, 2021

Operator

Good day, everyone, and welcome to the Cintas Second Quarter Fiscal Year 2022 Earnings Release Conference Call. Today's conference is being recorded. At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Mr. Paul Adler, Vice President and Treasurer, Investor Relations. Please go ahead, sir.

Paul Adler
VP and Treasurer of Investor Relations, Cintas

Thank you, Madison. Thank you for joining us. With me is Todd Schneider, President and Chief Executive Officer, and Mike Hansen, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. We will discuss our fiscal 2022 second quarter results. After our commentary, we will open the call to questions from analysts. The Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 provides a safe harbor from civil litigation for forward-looking statements. This conference call contains forward-looking statements that reflect the company's current views as to future events and financial performance. These forward-looking statements are subject to risks and uncertainties, which could cause actual results to differ materially from those we may discuss. I refer you to the discussion on these points contained in our most recent filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. I'll now turn the call over to Todd.

Todd Schneider
President and CEO, Cintas

Thank you, Paul. Our second quarter financial results were led by our strong revenue increase of 9.4%. Our financial results are indicative of our compelling value proposition, vast total addressable markets, and the outstanding execution of our employee partners. I thank our partners for continuing to navigate these challenging times by focusing on our customers. The benefits of our strong top line growth flowed through to our bottom line. Excluding last year's $18 million pre-tax gain on the sale of certain operating assets in the Uniform Rental and Facility Services segment and the related tax benefits, second quarter operating income margin increased 70 basis points from last year, and EPS grew 16.5%. These results are especially significant given that they were achieved in a period in which U.S. inflation hit a 39-year high.

Uniform Rental and Facility Services operating segment revenue was $1.54 billion compared to $1.41 billion last year. Organic revenue growth was 8.5%. The labor market is challenging. However, we are benefiting in the current environment. Businesses are struggling with the scarcity of labor, which has left many understaffed. Also, businesses have a heightened awareness of safety and cleanliness and are concerned with their ability to properly sanitize amidst persistent COVID infections. Businesses are increasingly outsourcing to Cintas so they can focus on their core competencies and be ready for the workday. It is noteworthy that the U.S. still hasn't recovered about 4 million pre-pandemic jobs, and the job openings total about 11 million. Return of jobs represents future revenue growth opportunity for Cintas.

Our First Aid and Safety Services operating segment revenue for the second quarter was $202.2 million, compared to $194.4 million last year. Organic revenue growth was 3.2%. Second quarter revenue was up against a difficult comparison. In last year's second quarter, in response to the COVID-19 pandemic, sales of personal protective equipment, or PPE, were very high, and the business grew organic revenue 14.5%. At that time, PPE comprised an outsized percentage of First Aid & Safety Services revenue mix. The amount of PPE has declined year-over-year as expected. However, COVID infections are still prevalent, and PPE remains a larger percentage of the revenue mix than it was pre-COVID. Over the same period of time, the recurring first aid cabinet service business revenue has increased.

In fact, it is up 20% from last year. We welcome this shift in mix because first aid cabinet service business is a more consistent revenue stream and has higher profit margins than PPE. Our Fire Protection Services and Uniform Direct Sale businesses are reported in the All Other segment. All Other revenue was $184.9 million compared to $152.1 million last year. The Fire business organic revenue growth rate was 16.9%, and the Uniform Direct Sale business organic growth rate was 47.3%. Both businesses benefited in part from an improved economic environment. Regarding our balance sheet and cash flow, our financial position remains strong. Second quarter operating cash flow increased 27% from last year, and Free Cash Flow improved 16%.

Recently, on December fifteenth, we paid shareholders $98.5 million in quarterly dividends. The amount per share of common stock paid of $0.95 represents a 26.7% increase over the company's previous quarterly dividend. We continue to allocate capital to improve shareholder return. Now before turning the call over to Mike, I want to highlight that we recently issued our 2021 environmental, social, and governance report. Cintas was founded on a sustainable business model. We are committed to protecting the environment, enhancing humanity, and maintaining accountability. The report, our second consecutive, provides expanded information and data, including our reductions in energy usage, water consumption, and Scope 1 and Scope 2 emissions. Our ESG report further illustrates that our corporate culture, based on doing what is right and challenging ourselves to improve, is a competitive advantage. I'll now turn the call over to Mike.

Mike Hansen
EVP and CFO, Cintas

Thank you, Todd, and good morning. Our fiscal 2022 second quarter revenue was $1.92 billion compared to $1.76 billion last year. The organic revenue growth rate, adjusted for acquisitions, divestitures, and foreign currency exchange rate fluctuations, was 9.3%. Gross margin for the second quarter of fiscal 2022 was $885.1 million compared to $819.9 million last year. Gross margin as a percent of revenue was 46% for the second quarter of fiscal 2022 compared to 46.7% last year. Gross margin percentage by business was 46.8% for Uniform Rental and Facility Services, 43.5% for First Aid and Safety Services, 44.6% for Fire Protection Services, and 39.1% for Uniform Direct Sale.

Energy related expenses were a headwind, increasing 40 basis points from last year. Also, we made investments in labor to support our strong current and anticipated revenue growth. Selling and administrative expenses improved as a percentage of revenue to 26.2% in the second quarter compared to 26.6% last year. Operating income of $381.2 million compared to $352.9 million last year. Operating income margin was 19.8% compared to 20.1% reported last year. Excluding last year's second quarter $18 million gain on sale of certain assets, which were recorded in selling and administrative expenses, this year's second quarter operating income grew 13.8%, and operating income margin increased 70 basis points.

Our effective tax rate for the second quarter was 18% compared to 13.3% last year. The tax rate can move from period to period based on discrete events, including the amount of stock compensation expense. In addition, last year's second quarter tax rate included a 370 basis point benefit from the sale of certain assets. Net income for the second quarter was $294.7 million compared to $284.9 million last year. Diluted EPS was $2.76 compared to $2.62 last year. Excluding last year's second quarter gain and the related tax benefits, which impacted diluted EPS by 25 cents, this year's second quarter diluted EPS of $2.76 compares to $2.37, an increase of 16.5%.

We're increasing our fiscal 2022 financial guidance. We are raising our annual revenue expectations from a range of $7.58 billion to $7.6 billion to a range of $7.63 billion-$7.70 billion. Diluted EPS from a range of $10.60-$10.90 to a range of $10.70-$10.95. Please note the following regarding our guidance. Fiscal 2022 effective tax rate is expected to be approximately 19% compared to a rate of 13.7% for fiscal 2021. The higher effective tax rate negatively impacts fiscal 2022 diluted EPS guidance by about $0.72 and diluted EPS growth by about 700 basis points.

Guidance does not include any future share buybacks, and guidance assumes an uneven economic recovery caused by COVID-19. However, guidance does not contemplate significant COVID-19 pandemic related setbacks such as stay-at-home orders or costs necessary to comply with government COVID-19 mandates. Finally, when modeling our fiscal 2022 financial results by quarter, please note that in last fiscal year's third quarter, we were able to help our customers respond to a spike in COVID-19 cases by providing them with very large supplies of personal protective equipment, gloves in particular. We provided more personal protective equipment in that quarter than in any other. Excluding the PPE that we don't expect to repeat, our second half of the year revenue growth guidance is over 9% at the top end of our range.

Paul Adler
VP and Treasurer of Investor Relations, Cintas

That concludes our prepared remarks. Now we are happy to answer questions from the analysts. Please ask just one question and a single follow-up if needed. Thank you.

Operator

If you would like to ask a question, please signal by pressing star one on your telephone keypad. If you're using a speakerphone, please make sure your mute function is turned off to allow your signal through to our equipment. We'll go ahead and take our first question from Manav Patnaik with Barclays.

Manav Patnaik
Managing Director and Equity Research Analyst, Barclays

Thank you.

Operator

Please go ahead.

Manav Patnaik
Managing Director and Equity Research Analyst, Barclays

Thank you very much. I was hoping you could just address kind of your in the near-term visibility, you know, more in terms of reactions from your customers with, you know, the spread of Omicron, and if you're seeing any change in behaviors or are people just, you know, kind of chugging along here?

Todd Schneider
President and CEO, Cintas

Hey, Manav, this is Todd. Thanks for your question. Good morning. You know, at this point, we haven't seen a change in our customer base as a result of Omicron. It's a little early to tell certainly. But nevertheless, I would say it's business as usual at this point with our customers and we're looking forward to the back half of the year.

Manav Patnaik
Managing Director and Equity Research Analyst, Barclays

Got it. You know, maybe just as a follow-up, just, you know, tied to the other pressures out there, which is inflation. Sounds like you guys are handling that well. You referred to investments in the labor force. Can you just address what that is and broadly how you feel about managing these inflationary pressures going forward as well?

Todd Schneider
President and CEO, Cintas

Yeah, great question. You know, inflation is certainly real, but I think we're managing it quite well. We do have a world-class supply chain organization that is a real competitive advantage in these cases. Fortunately, we've been addressing wages over the past couple of years as we've spoken about in past calls. We weren't caught flat-footed as it relates to wages. Our wage increases are certainly still a little above historical, but we're investing more in the infrastructure to be able to service our customers so that based upon our current growth and our anticipated growth, which we're very excited about.

Manav Patnaik
Managing Director and Equity Research Analyst, Barclays

All right. Thank you.

Todd Schneider
President and CEO, Cintas

Thank you.

Operator

All right. We'll go ahead and take our next question from Andrew Steinerman with JP Morgan.

Andrew Steinerman
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, JPMorgan

Hi, it's Andrew. If I try to back into the second half operating margins in the full-year guide, I get to 19.1%, which is up modestly year-over-year. I just wanted to make sure that you know you do the math the same way as me. Maybe you could you kind of go through some of those kind of puts and takes on the second half operating margins.

Mike Hansen
EVP and CFO, Cintas

Good morning, Andrew. We would say our implied operating margin guidance for the second half of the year is a little bit higher than what you stated at 19.1%. We think of it closer to the 19.5%. Look, we still expect some very nice operating margin growth for the year, even in the back half of the year and even in an environment which is pretty challenging, as I'm sure you're aware in terms of the inflationary pressures. As Todd mentioned, we're managing that inflation. We like the margin improvement, and our expectation is we're gonna see better than the 19.1 that you referred to.

Andrew Steinerman
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, JPMorgan

Right. The 19.5 is for the total company, and I assume. I just wanted to maybe make a comment on increases on the customer side, the B2B increases, because you know, you were on a hiatus, now you're kind of in process of increasing prices to customers and you know kind of how is that going? You know, are they understanding of the inflationary environment?

Todd Schneider
President and CEO, Cintas

I'll take that one, Mike. Thanks for the question, Andrew. Certainly on the pricing, one of the things that's important to understand is that we don't simply send out a letter increasing prices to all one million customers at all at the same time. We address the issue throughout the year. You'll continue to see that. And also as we've said in the past, pricing's a local subject. Some industries are still struggling, some are doing quite well. Some geographies are still not back to pre-COVID, and others are nicely ahead of the curve. Now, inflation is. It seems like it's in every headline and every time you turn on the news.

As a result, I'd say the conversations with our customers are generally going well, and our results are a little bit better than historical in that area as well. As you know, we take a long-term approach, and we focus on the lifetime value of our customers, which, frankly, is reflected in our NPS scores being at all-time highs. Now all that being said, in the face of inflation being at a 39-year high, we're growing our operating income and incremental margins at very attractive rates, and we're excited about that.

Andrew Steinerman
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, JPMorgan

Right. Just to confirm, $19.5 was total company, right?

Mike Hansen
EVP and CFO, Cintas

Yes. That was total company against last year of just under 19%. Again, what we think to be pretty healthy margin improvement. Let's keep in mind last year's margins were record margins and 310 basis points higher than pre-pandemic levels. We like where we're headed with the margins in the back half of the year.

Andrew Steinerman
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, JPMorgan

Well said. Thank you very much.

Operator

All right. We'll go ahead and take our next question from Hamzah Mazari with Jefferies.

Mario Cortellacci
VP of Equity Research, Jefferies

Hi, this is Mario Cortellacci filling in for Hamzah Mazari. Just my first question around labor. Maybe you can just update us just not on the labor inflation portion, but also on the labor availability in your business and kinda how you're managing through that. Maybe you could tie that through to what your pricing strategy looks like regarding that, especially since you guys really haven't taken any price in the past two years, I believe it was.

Todd Schneider
President and CEO, Cintas

Yes, Mario, this is Todd. As far as labor availability, we're competing quite well out there. We pay a very competitive wage and a very attractive benefits. We think we're an employer of choice. That's reflecting in our staffing levels, which we like. It's certainly more challenging this year than in the past in general. We're competing quite well, and we like that. As far as how we look at the pricing, again, it's annual, you'll see it throughout the year. It is something that we look at customer by customer, and because as I mentioned, it's a local subject.

We do look at the long-term value of the customers, but we're doing better than historical. The reason being is because, you know, there's a little bit of wind in your sails as far as customers are highly aware of what's going on with inflation in general and wage pressures as well. But as a result, we think we're in a good spot. I'm very thankful that we have been addressing wage increases over the past few years because it prevented us from being flat-footed coming in and being under real pressure.

Manav Patnaik
Managing Director and Equity Research Analyst, Barclays

Great. Thank you. Just for my follow-up, could you just comment on the fire business and your strategy for getting into some of the top fire markets that you're not currently in? Do you intend to play in any other adjacencies within the fire business, such as what APi Group or other larger players have done in that space?

Todd Schneider
President and CEO, Cintas

Yes, Mario. As far as the fire business, we're continuing to build out our footprint. We have found that we very much like our model that we are providing the service levels to customers. It's showing up very nicely in new business wins and retention, and you're seeing it in the growth. As far as adjacencies, we're always evaluating those, but we think there's incredible run rate in that business, with the type of strategy we have today without even going into an adjacency, but we're certainly always evaluating those.

Manav Patnaik
Managing Director and Equity Research Analyst, Barclays

Great. Thank you very much, and I hope you all have a great holiday.

Todd Schneider
President and CEO, Cintas

Thank you. You too.

Operator

We'll go ahead and take our next question from George Tong with Goldman Sachs.

George Tong
Equity Research Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Hi. Thanks. Good morning. Your gross margins contracted 80 basis points year-over-year in the uniform rental segment. Can you elaborate a bit on margin performance there and what your guidance implies for uniform segment gross margins?

Todd Schneider
President and CEO, Cintas

Certainly, George. This is Todd. I'll start, and then Mike can chime in. You know, gross margin in general is up 40 basis points due to just energy alone. That's obviously a headwind. I think gas standalone is up 60% year-over-year. As far as the balance of that, the 70 basis points, we're making investments in the additional employee partners that we need to service the very nice growth that we're seeing, along with the growth that we see coming. You know, the revenue now, George, is different, a little different from last year. It's much closer to our revenue, our traditional revenue mix.

Let me just give you an example because I think it'll maybe help you understand that a little bit better. With PPE last year, there was obviously significant demand for that, and we were happy to help our customers with it. In those cases, many of the cases with that, they were simply a drop ship to those customers. When you drop ship those large quantities, it doesn't take a whole lot of work, right? It's just a drop ship, and then you're able to book the revenue, et cetera. You think of that versus the level of employee partners that is required to service uniforms, facility services, first aid, and safety cabinets. It simply takes more work, right?

However, we welcome this shift as it provides more value to the customers than simply a drop ship. It's stickier business, and long term, it has better margin. We like it. We like that switch, and we knew that was coming, and we've been staffing for it and guiding for it. All that said, as we know, inflation's at a near 39-year high. As I mentioned, energy's up 40 basis points. Our investment in growth for today and the future. If you exclude the one-time gain from last year, our operating margins are up 70 basis points, and our incremental margins are quite strong.

We're doing exactly what we had hoped and planned for, I guess, would be the way I would describe it.

George Tong
Equity Research Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Got it. That's helpful. Your healthcare and hygiene businesses have seen a boost in demand with COVID. Can you talk about trends and the broader opportunity you're seeing in healthcare and hygiene?

Todd Schneider
President and CEO, Cintas

Certainly. Healthcare and, you know, they're connected, right? Healthcare is a vertical, hygiene is a subject that crosses all businesses. As far as the healthcare vertical, we're continuing to see strong demand. We like what we're providing with scrubs, items to help customers clean patient rooms and other rooms, in addition to isolation gowns. All of that, we continue to be very bullish about the healthcare vertical. As far as hygiene, I'll lump hygiene with sanitization, cleanliness, all of that health and safety.

All of that we believe has been a sea change and something that is going to be wind in our sails, maybe forever, right? Because you see the focus that people have on sanitizing, hygiene, health, safety. We think we can see that in certainly our Uniform Rental and Facility Services segment, but also our first aid business. People are very focused on the health, safety and wellness of their people and their customers, of their patients and of their guests. As a result, that's good for us.

George Tong
Equity Research Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Got it. Very helpful. Thank you.

Todd Schneider
President and CEO, Cintas

Thank you.

Operator

We'll go ahead and take our next question from Ashish Sabadra with RBC.

Ashish Sabadra
Equity Research Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Thanks for taking my question. I just wanted to follow up on the comments that you made on the healthcare, but just focus on the larger opportunities across the three verticals, healthcare, government and education vertical. I was wondering if you could comment on the pipelines for those larger opportunities. Thanks.

Todd Schneider
President and CEO, Cintas

Yes, Ashish. The pipeline looks quite strong for all those verticals. We feel good. Our sales organization is operating at a very high level, and we really like our new business wins in that area. Our retention is very attractive. You look at all that, you say our new business wins are very strong. Our retention is very strong, and we are excited for our customers to get back to full strength as well. We think that bodes well for the future for us.

Ashish Sabadra
Equity Research Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

That's very helpful color. Maybe just talking about technology. On the last call, you had talked about the benefits of SAP implementation and more to come. I was wondering if you could talk about what you're doing on the technology front, on the automation front, provide some preview on what we could see over the next few years, and how should that help offset some of the inflationary pressure. Thanks.

Todd Schneider
President and CEO, Cintas

Yeah. Yeah, great question. Obviously, investing in technology is one of our top priorities because we see the opportunity to improve efficiencies in our business, operational efficiencies, but also provide items that the customers notice, and recognize and make it easier to do business with us. Those are things that we're trying to leverage. I think a good example of technology that we're leveraging is by leveraging SAP and partnering with a communications company. We have launched what we call smart tech, or excuse me, Smart Truck technology, which collects and analyzes data to create a much more efficient routing structure. What this allows us to do is to spend more time with the customers instead of

Reduce fuel expense, instead of driving in between stops. As we say, we only make money in this business when the wheels stop. When the wheels are moving, that's just expense. We see that as an opportunity to leverage technology to improve operational efficiencies. We have, as another example, we have launched a portal for our customers that allows them to do business with us online, which is a competitive advantage in the marketplace. What we're seeing is, contrary to years ago, people don't always wanna do business during normal business hours. What they're interested in is doing business on their time.

What we're seeing is the requests that we see from our customers is well over half of the requests are outside of normal business hours. It's making it easier to do business with us. We allow them to make requests on changes to their program. We allow them to pay their bills online. All these are items that the customers see as an advantage in the marketplace, being easier to do business with, and we get really excited when customers see a technology advantage and find us easier to do business with.

Ashish Sabadra
Equity Research Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

That's very helpful color. Thank you, and happy holidays.

Todd Schneider
President and CEO, Cintas

Thank you.

Operator

All right, we'll go ahead and take our next question from Andy Wittmann with Baird.

Andy Wittmann
Senior Research Analyst, Baird

Yeah, great, thanks for taking my question. I guess I just wanted to get a little substantive comments on the new guidance this quarter versus the guidance you gave last quarter, Mike. It kinda looks like the biggest change in the EPS side is just a little bit lower tax rate. On the revenue side, you know, the quarter beat consensus. You don't guide quarterly, but it kinda feels like the fundamental outlook for the revenue and core operating margin performance of the business isn't materially changed. Is that the right way of looking at it, or did you see a change in the business fundamentals that you're factoring into the new updated guidance today?

Mike Hansen
EVP and CFO, Cintas

Andy, I think that's a fair assessment from the perspective of not a lot of change from what we had been talking about in the last quarter, and that is growth continuing to be pretty strong in the second half of the year. Ex that big PPE number that we talked about in the third quarter and a little bit in the fourth quarter, our growth would be in excess of 9%. Roughly the same margins we've been talking about for much of the year, and that is we certainly expect margin growth.

Continue to expect margin growth. If we did hit 19.5 that I talked about earlier, that's roughly a 60 basis point improvement in the back half of the year. That's coming on top of a, I'll call it gain-adjusted 50 basis point improvement in the first half of the year. You might remember, we talked at the early part of the year at a kind of a 0-70 basis point improvement. The performance through midway through the year is showing that we're right at the top of that initial guide. The movement is a little bit of taxes, maybe a little bit of margin improvement, but generally speaking, your assessment is fair, Andy.

Pretty nice growth and a healthy margin improvement on record margins from a year ago.

Andy Wittmann
Senior Research Analyst, Baird

Yep. Okay, thanks for going through that, Mike. I guess my follow-up question then, you just talked now and previously in the call you talked about you know, these margins, and I think they speak for themselves. You talked about price being a little bit above average. Are there any other things that are driving the margin performance besides just price and then the operating leverage from the business? Are there actions or other investments that you're making that are helping this margin performance? Is this kind of just the natural progression of price cost as well as fixed cost leverage?

Todd Schneider
President and CEO, Cintas

Andy, this is Todd. Good question. I think it's the normal operation of the business. We're always investing in various items that help our operational efficiencies. I mentioned the Smart Truck technology that we think is gonna be exciting for us. I think it's just the general leverage that we're getting in the face of what is still a very challenging operating environment. You know, we're, as Mike said, coming off of a record 310 basis point improvement in margin. We're very excited about that we're gonna continue to take another step forward this year.

Andy Wittmann
Senior Research Analyst, Baird

Yep. Okay.

Mike Hansen
EVP and CFO, Cintas

Andy, I might throw it into a couple different buckets, as well as a little bit of reiterating what Todd and I have already talked about. Look, our growth is at pretty good levels. When we grow at those pretty good levels, we get some really nice leverage in the business, and we're seeing that leverage as a benefit. Productivity improvements. I mean, we've from our laundry facilities to our service and the routes that the route improvements that Todd has talked about to sales rep productivity is strong and continues to improve as we look at process improvement and innovation and automation. Productivity is very strong. You know, efficiencies.

Look, we made some pretty difficult cost cuts last year, some changes to our cost structure and we'd rather not give up many of those. While we have started to see a little bit of travel, for example, come in, look, we're still managing the cost structure very tightly. Maybe then the last bucket I'll throw out there is, we've talked quite a bit about resuming pricing, and pricing is helping a little bit this year.

Margin improvement, I think we can throw it in those four buckets and, you know, I would say it's certainly leading to some pretty good performance, even in the face of 40 basis point increases in energy and other certain inflationary factors.

Andy Wittmann
Senior Research Analyst, Baird

Yeah, great. Thanks for the comprehensive answer, guys. Happy holidays.

Mike Hansen
EVP and CFO, Cintas

You too, Andy.

Operator

We'll go ahead and take our next question from Tim Mulrooney with William Blair.

Sam Putz
Associate in Equity Research, William Blair

Hey, this is Sam Putz. I'm filling in for Tim. Thanks for taking our questions here. Wanted to hit on margins real quick again. In the uniform rental segment, operating margin was down year-over-year, but still very strong relative to historical standards. Is that kind of how we should think about this segment's margin structure from a long-term perspective? Maybe down year-over-year because of higher cost inflation, but capable of maintaining 2021 margins in a more normalized environment.

Mike Hansen
EVP and CFO, Cintas

Well, a couple of points that I might make. First of all, you know, we talked a little bit about the gain on the sale of assets from a year ago. That was all recorded in SG&A within rental. If you take out the impact of that gain, last year's second quarter was 21.1% compared to our 22% this year. A 90 basis point improvement. Some pretty healthy year-over-year improvement. Look, we've been in the rental business above 20% for the last six quarters. Our expectation is, we're gonna see a little bit, because this is such a challenging environment, we're gonna see some ups and downs periodically.

Generally speaking, look, we like where the business is running in that rental segment, and our expectation is, we'll stay above that 20% number.

Sam Putz
Associate in Equity Research, William Blair

Excellent. Thanks for the clarification there. Maybe switching gears back to PPE. You know, early in the year, I think you expected a PPE headwind of about 1% in fiscal 2022. It sounds like maybe that expectation could be changing a bit. Can you just update us on what you think the PPE headwind will be for fiscal 2022 here?

Todd Schneider
President and CEO, Cintas

Well, I think if you take a look at our guidance, for example, for the back half of the year, I believe at the high end, the revenue growth is 7.4% over last year. If you think about the comment we made of growth being 9%, we're talking about 160 basis points in the back half of the year. You can think about 80 basis points for the full year. I would say we're not far from where we talked about early on in the year, but certainly it's back-end loaded a little bit more.

Sam Putz
Associate in Equity Research, William Blair

Gotcha. Thanks for the color here. Thanks.

Operator

We'll go ahead and take our next from Toni Kaplan with Morgan Stanley.

Toni Kaplan
Executive Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Thank you. I wanted to ask an ESG related question. Given the size of your fleet, a shift to electric vehicles seems like it would be pretty meaningful. I know in your ESG report you indicated that by January you expect to deploy 12 electric vehicles. Just curious if this program's been initiated, and if you could talk about how we should think about the potential of rolling out this to the entire fleet. Thanks.

Todd Schneider
President and CEO, Cintas

Yes, Toni, this is Todd. Thank you for the question. Yes, we're excited about electrifying the fleet. We are right on schedule as far as what we plan for testing. We have a diverse fleet because of the various types of trucks we have, the rental trucks, the first aid trucks, and the fire trucks as well. We're working with some very large manufacturers at very high levels and we're excited about the future as it relates to that. We think that is something that's important to our customers, and it's important to our partners, our employee partners, and we think it'll be very important to shareholders as well.

We believe that getting out ahead of this curve is important to us and we're committed to doing so and dealing with all the challenges that are associated with that, with the weight of the vehicles that we operate, the size of our fleet, and also getting access to the supply, which is why we're working with a diverse group and at high levels so that way we're in a good position as an organization.

Toni Kaplan
Executive Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, Morgan Stanley

That's helpful. One question I've been getting recently is around the ability for you to do large scale M&A, and some skepticism around that. Do you think that's valid or because of the fragmented market, there's still potential for you to be able to do a large deal? I'd also say it maybe seems a little harder for deals to get done right now, or at least longer to get approved. Just wanted to hear your thoughts around large scale M&A. Thanks.

Todd Schneider
President and CEO, Cintas

Yes, Toni. Just as a reminder, M&A is our second priority of capital use right behind investing in our business, and we're excited about M&A of all shapes and sizes. You know, we're blessed to have a market that is massive in size. Meaning, if you think about how many people are wearing garments, wearing uniforms out in the marketplace, it is a significant market. That's representative of our new business wins that we have. About two-thirds of our new accounts that we bring in are all people that are customers that are what we call no-programmers. Some people in different industry call them unvended.

Nevertheless, when we walk in, they don't have a uniform program, and when they walk out, we do. It's a little bit more complicated than that, but that's the net-net. That being said, that's simply the uniform market. Our other markets are just a vast addressable market, whether it's facility services and all the headwind, or excuse me, all the tailwinds that are behind that business from health, safety, sanitation, hygiene. Same way with the first aid business. In the fire business, we see it is obviously a massive market just simply because everybody is required by law to have those products and services.

Yeah, I think we're in an incredibly good position in all those because of the market size. That leads us to we think we're interested in M&A in all of our businesses and are excited about the potential of M&A of small, medium, and large because we think the market is such that it is absolutely appropriate.

Toni Kaplan
Executive Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Very helpful. Happy holidays. Thank you.

Todd Schneider
President and CEO, Cintas

Thank you.

Operator

We'll go ahead and take our next question from Scott Schneeberger with Oppenheimer.

Scott Schneeberger
Managing Director and Senior Analyst, Oppenheimer & Co. Inc.

Thanks very much. Good morning. I'm curious. This is a question of your average customer in first aid. Pre-pandemic, what would their cabinet look like? How much has it changed of the items or the contents inside to what it looks like now, to the level of detail you can speak to that? And then how has the pricing and margin profile changed of that cabinet? I assume better, but anything you can share on that, and then I'll have a quick follow up after. Thanks.

Todd Schneider
President and CEO, Cintas

Okay, Scott, this is Todd. As far as our cabinet, yeah, we're constantly bringing out new products for our first aid cabinet. That is an important component of that business. We offer other services in that business, whether it be AEDs, training and compliance, as well as eye wash stations, which are required by OSHA to be serviced appropriately. All of that, we're seeing a return back to a focus on that with our customers, which is exciting to us. As far as the cabinet itself, besides the new products that we have launched, it's pretty well a traditional type of situation.

Now, what is changing is the focus on health and safety of employees, customers, guests, patients, those types of things. As a result, we think that's good for the first aid business. As we've spoken about, the first aid cabinet business is more predictable, provides more value to the customer than a drop ship type of PPE and is more profitable. I think as you see that trend of the health and safety continuing and as more people are back to work, then that's gonna be very positive for that business.

Mike Hansen
EVP and CFO, Cintas

I might add a couple things. Just reminding you, Scott, that I think Todd mentioned that first aid cabinet business is up 20% year-over-year in our second quarter. We really do like the momentum of it. We're not quite back to the mix of pre-pandemic, but we certainly like the movement towards that mix. When we think about the gross margin in this business, the material cost really has improved.

What you're seeing in this particular quarter is that we're spending a little bit of that improvement on some of the labor investments that Todd talked about in terms of building the service capacity, both for the current growth that we've had, but also for anticipated second half of the year growth. Really nice performance by our first aid and safety partners. The performance is improving just like we expected it to and just like we want it to.

Scott Schneeberger
Managing Director and Senior Analyst, Oppenheimer & Co. Inc.

Great. Thanks. I appreciate all that color. The follow-up is on the same subject. You know, you guys are running below what were pre-pandemic peak first aid and safety margins. Do you think within a matter of a year or two, you can get back to that prior level? Why or why not? Thank you.

Todd Schneider
President and CEO, Cintas

Yeah, Scott, this is Todd. We're very focused on that. We think that revenue mix will be very positive for us. We also look at, as I mentioned, the wind behind our sails on the focus on health and wellness of folks out in the marketplace is gonna be positive. As we continue to focus in that area and that revenue mix rebalances, then I think you're gonna see a nice trend towards more traditional type margins in that business.

Scott Schneeberger
Managing Director and Senior Analyst, Oppenheimer & Co. Inc.

Great. Appreciate it, guys. Happy holidays.

Todd Schneider
President and CEO, Cintas

Thank you, Scott. You too.

Operator

We'll take our next question from Shlomo Rosenbaum with Stifel.

Shlomo Rosenbaum
Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst, Stifel

Hi, good morning. Thank you for taking my questions. Hey, Todd, I want to ask you a little bit on the competitive environment. Aramark has been, you know, trying to execute a turnaround for the last couple years. I want to know, does that make a difference to you guys in the market at all? Have you seen a change in terms of competitiveness or in terms that you guys have to be more competitive? Or is the market so fragmented that, you know, a change like that wouldn't necessarily filter back to you guys?

Todd Schneider
President and CEO, Cintas

Shlomo, thanks for the question. It's a good question. You know, the operating environment we're in, it's always competitive. Nothing noteworthy, though, I would say, in the change. Our revenue retention rates are very strong. As I mentioned, our new business wins are very strong as well. They're coming from those non-programmers much more so than the competition. I just think it speaks to the vast market out there that we're focused on providing that value to the customers. When we walk in, and I'll just give uniforms as an example.

When we walk in, one of the top areas, top of things we hear back from customers is, "Wow, I didn't know you could do all that for what you do it for." They're surprised. One of the other items that we hear is we didn't know that you would be able to service a customer of our size. They might have 10 wearers. That is something that you know, like an average sized customer for us, but the perception is, oh, you have to have 100 people, 1,000 people. We're attacking that market because we see that the customer sees value in what we provide.

They'll also there's a little certainly wind behind their sails on it's tough to attract talent right now. Being able to provide a service like this is something that's attractive to people. You think about how many people are working out in the marketplace and the fact that we can provide that service to tens of millions of more wearers, it's very exciting for the future. As a result of how we focus on it really those competitive pressures, we're more focused on retaining our customers, and we're more focused on growing the market and because it's just so massive.

Shlomo Rosenbaum
Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst, Stifel

Okay, great. Maybe this is one for Mike. Just kind of in the other segments, I know there's definitely volatility quarter over quarter in terms of the margins. Just comparing the operating margin, you know, this quarter versus the last couple quarters and is there something, you know, besides, you know, sequentially, obviously it's a lower revenue, which make a difference in the margin. Going back a couple quarters, could you just give us some of the puts and takes of why, you know, what's impacting the operating margin?

Mike Hansen
EVP and CFO, Cintas

Shlomo, when you look at Q2 compared to Q1, keep in mind that we referred in the first quarter call to a gain on sale of some assets. In the first quarter, there was a $12.1 million gain. We had a little bit of an anomaly in that particular quarter. You know, I'd say this, the fire business has been performing very nicely and we've seen organic growth this quarter of 16.9% and remain healthy.

Some of the things that Todd and I have talked about with the first aid businesses going on in the fire business in that we are certainly seeing some great growth and we're investing for both current growth and anticipated growth. We're seeing a little bit of the investment there. As you know, Shlomo, the Uniform Direct Sale business can be quite bumpy and so there's going to be more volatility from quarter to quarter in this business. I'd say this as well, 11.7% for the All Other segment is still a pretty good quarter on a 65-day workday quarter relative to pre-pandemic.

Again, just like the other businesses, we like the momentum in these businesses and we like the performance.

Shlomo Rosenbaum
Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst, Stifel

Would you say that extra day versus say full Q21 is a bigger impact? I'm just trying to get a little bit more detail. I completely understand and appreciate the volatility in the uniform direct business.

Mike Hansen
EVP and CFO, Cintas

The direct, I would say that the day is more of an impact to the fire business than it is the Uniform Direct Sale. The Uniform Direct Sale tends to be bumpy based on could be a rollout of a new program. It's just timing of the sales within those current customer programs. That's the biggest volatility item within the Uniform Direct Sale.

Shlomo Rosenbaum
Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst, Stifel

Okay, thank you.

Operator

All right.

Mike Hansen
EVP and CFO, Cintas

Okay.

Operator

It appears there are no more questions at this time. Mr. Schneider , I'd like to turn the conference back to you for any additional or closing remarks.

Todd Schneider
President and CEO, Cintas

Okay. Well, thank you for joining us this morning, everyone. We will issue our third quarter of fiscal 2022 financial results in March. We look forward to speaking with you again at that time. Have a good day.

Operator

This concludes today's call. Thank you all for your participation. You may now disconnect.

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