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Earnings Call: Q1 2021

Apr 30, 2021

Speaker 1

Good morning, and welcome to the Cabot Oil and Gas Corporation First Quarter 2021 Earnings Conference Call and Web Cast. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question and answer session. I'd now like to turn the conference over to Dan Dinges, Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer. Please go ahead, sir.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Angie, and good morning. Thank you for joining us today for Sabot's Q1 2021 earnings call. As a reminder, on today's call, we will make forward looking statements based on our current expectations. Additionally, some of our comments will reference non GAAP financial measures. Forward looking statements and other disclaimers as reconciliation to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures were provided in yesterday's earnings release.

Our results for the Q1 demonstrate Cabot's ability to deliver significant growth and profitability and free cash flow in a more normalized natural gas price environment than what we experienced during 2020. Our adjusted net income and free cash flow increased by over 175 percent relative to the prior year period, driven in large part by 34% increase in realized natural gas prices. Our free cash flow of $138,000,000 was our highest level since the Q1 of 2019 and represented Cabot's 17th quarter of positive free cash flow over the last 20 quarters, all while are fully covering our quarterly base dividend and the repayment of $88,000,000 of senior notes that matured during the quarter. While higher realized prices were the primary driver of a stronger financial metrics, we also delivered another exceptional quarter operationally with our production of 2.29 Bcf per day, exceeding the midpoint of our guidance range. Our CapEx coming in below expectations and our operating expenses per unit improving relative to the prior year period despite higher G and A expenses related to a one time charge associated with our recent early retirement program.

Our balance sheet remains as strong as ever been with less than $900,000,000 of net debt as of quarter end, resulting in a net leverage ratio of approximately 1 times trailing 12 month EBITDA. This leverage ratio is expected to further improve throughout the year due to an increasing cash flow profile resulting from a higher natural gas price environment this year compared to the 25 year NYMEX flow we experienced in 2020. Our fortress balance sheet provides significant financial flexibility and will allow allow us to continue to return a significant amount of our free cash flow to shareholders this year and for years to come. This uniquely differentiates us from so many in our industry today who are approaching the inflection of positive free cash flow generation, but we'll be forced to utilize that free cash flow for significant balance sheet repair in medium term as opposed to capital return to shareholders. On the topic of capital returns, yesterday, we announced a 10% increase in our quarterly base dividend to $0.11 per share, which on an annualized basis represents a base dividend yield of 2.6%.

As we highlighted on our year end call, We are fully committed to a base plus supplemental dividend strategy, which incorporates a growing base dividend and an annual supplemental dividend to arrive at our minimum capital return target of at least 50% of our annual free cash flow. Based on the current natural gas price outlook for this year, we expect to generate excessive free cash flow above our minimum capital return target and our debt repayment. This excess free cash flow is anticipated to be earmarked for additional capital returns, including opportunistic share repurchases, especially given the recent equity underperformance and or incremental supplemental dividends as we have provided in the last few years. On the operations front, production and minimize potential impacts to adjacent parent wells. Based on an in-depth engineering and geologic analysis of each design variables include the volume of fluid pump, profit concentration, cluster spacing and the treating rate for each section along the wellbore.

This concept was utilized on each of the 4 pads and webcast in 21 wells that were placed on production in the Q1 with 2 to 4 different completion designs utilized in various sections of each lateral. Additional safeguards were also employed to protect the 33 parent wells, which partially or fully offset these 21 new wells. Safeguards included the use of deep set retrievable bridge plug and the installation of tubing and capillary strings in parent wells when bringing them back online. Our customized completion design in conjunction with offset mitigation measures to protect parent wells yielded very positive results. Collectively our new wells on these four pads are meeting pre drill expectations, while the offset group of parent wells are producing above pre drill test rates.

We have seen very little impact to the rep. Parent wells with only 3 of the 33 parent wells having a combined impact of only 2,000,000 cubic foot per day. We're very pleased with these results. To remain on operations, Cabot has implemented another program enhancement operation. Cabot recently initiated a well pad compression program, which incorporates clean burn emission control systems.

To date, we have installed compression on 6 of our pads. The pad compression compressors are work to achieve a 10% to 15% pressure reduction at each of our installations, Resulting in increased production rates and an DUR uplift of 5 Bcf to 15 Bcf per pad, all while delivering triple digit rates of return and an average finding cost below $0.20 for MCF for the incremental reserves. We currently have plans for 5 additional pad compression installations this year. On the pricing front, we remain confident in our constructive outlook on natural gas pricing in both the short and mid term. While we anticipate some near term pressure on local basis differentials during the shoulder months and as pipeline maintenance programs kick in.

We expect to experience a much more bullish summer of 2021 and winter of 2021, 2020 to then our outlook at this time last year. To begin, the global LNG supply and demand outlook this year is far more robust than what we experienced during the summer of 2020. U. S. LNG exports are currently averaging over 11 Bcf per day, an increase of 3 Bcf per day relative to the same period last share.

Additionally, exports to Mexico continue to improve and recently set a record of over 7 Bcf per day, an increase of approximately 2 Bcf per day year over year, resulting in strong tailwinds for natural gas demand as we move into the second half of the year. On the supply side, we continue to see capital discipline throughout most basins, including Appalachia, rep production volumes are roughly half or roughly flat year over year and about 2.5 Bcf per day lower than the peak levels repurchase from fall 2020. Despite higher natural gas prices, the rig count in Appalachia is down slightly relative to the same period last year, highlighting our belief that capital discipline across the basin remains intact. Repurchase. More broadly, dry gas production across the Lower forty eight remains about 1.5 Bcf per day below levels from the same period in 20 repurchased 20 and approximately 5 Bcf per day below pre pandemic levels from late 2019.

Currently, Lower 48 natural gas storage levels are 302 Bcf less than last year and 40 Bcf below the 5 year average. More importantly, the Northeast and Midwest, 2 regions that materially affect Northeast pricing and summer demand are collectively 162 Bcf below last year And that deficit is expected to widen over the next couple of weeks. As we look towards the end of season in October, storage levels are forecast to be around 3.5 Tcf or approximately 400 Bcf below October 2020 levels, setting up a much stronger scenario for the winter of 2021, 2022. The 2021 NYMEX futures currently sits around $0.80 higher than the 2020 level. Though only a portion of Cabot gas is affected, flow and returns on and of capital.

The recent widening is primarily due to a major pipeline replacement project scheduled for May on behalf of the Leidy South expansion project. However, we are optimistic that summer demand for LNG and storage will negate this project weakness in basis. Moreover, with the completion of the Leidy South expansion project, Which includes 580,000,000 cubic foot per day of new takeaway out of the basin. And this is scheduled for December 1 in service. Our expectation is Northeast rep's differentials should return to a more moderate level.

In yesterday's release, we reaffirmed our full year 2021 plan to deliver an average net production rate of 2.3 Bcf net per day from a capital program repurchase of $530,000,000 to $540,000,000 We also provided a Q2 2021 production guidance range of 2.225 Bcf to 2.227 Bcf per day. The 2nd quarter production guidance implies a slight sequential decline relative to the Q1, which is a result of lower activity levels and capital spending during the winter season. Activity levels are expected to increase in the second and third quarter, resulting in sequential growth during the second half of the year, primarily during the Q4 in anticipation of higher natural gas prices in the winter and in service the Leidy South expansion project. While we all share the frustration regarding Cabot's recent underperformance, I firmly believe webcast. Resulting in significant free cash flow expansion will become more appreciated with time and continued execution.

However, We remain fully committed to continuing our evaluation of all opportunities to further enhance shareholder value over time. And with that, Angie, I'll be more than happy to open the floor up for questions.

Speaker 1

Certainly. Will pause for just a moment to compile the Q and A roster. Your first question comes from the line of Josh Silverstein with Wolfe Research. Your line is open.

Speaker 3

Great. Thanks. Good morning, guys. You guys probably know where I'm going with this, but Dan as it goes right Your last comments there. The stock has significantly underperformed peers and underperformed the commodity price.

Why not get more aggressive now and look at doing some aggressive buybacks now or return to capital profile now ahead of what you just outlined repurchase. As a bullish backdrop for natural gas prices, it seems like the stock really needs a spark to get it going outside of gas prices going higher. So Just wanted to get some thoughts there as to what we've outlined recently for you guys.

Speaker 2

Yes. We don't disagree with Josh. The underperformance is a stand out and we're disappointed with those results. To your point, We are looking at what I discussed. We're looking at the buyback platform.

We're also in our certainly our most recent board meeting we had this week. We've increased the dividend. It's obvious our balance sheet is in great shape. So Along the lines that you're discussing, we are focusing on it and we appreciate your comment and agree with your comment.

Speaker 4

Would you guys be able to or

Speaker 3

would be willing to take on some leverage to go and do that now knowing that you can hedge out The forward curve of the debt and rebuild that cash flow back up?

Speaker 2

Yes. We've always been stewards of the balance sheet and with as low as our leverage is today, we have ample capacity to do a number of things that would be, I think, constructive.

Speaker 3

Got it. The other idea that we laid out was potentially using Cabot's premium multiple versus peers to go and make an acquisition since you guys can Probably buy assets in the gas markets these days for 3x to 4x EBITDA that are currently producing free cash flow. What would be your thoughts around that or whether you may want to and whether you would look outside the basin to go and do that?

Speaker 1

Yes.

Speaker 2

When you look at the M and A space and it's been Had been active, of course, pandemic put a law on some of that from the standpoint of how Significant volatility in the commodity price along with share prices. No, every company has its own opinion about how the audit trade and where the audit trade. So when you talk about the M and A space and reposition. It's not easy to find that point in time to be able to make it work. I can assure you that rep?

Cabot has not done anything in our we've traded sideways while There's been significant volatility in our peers' stock from Way below us to exceeding us in the, say, the last 6 months. And it's been a stark contrast. Once you had support in the commodity price, you got out of the window of concern about overleveraged companies and their outcome and their attention to Their balance sheet, the beta plays and the torque in that Investment by investors has carried today and it's been significant. Cabin with a clean balance sheet and free cash flow for 17 out of 20 quarters was that Yesterday and we recognize that there's opportunity out there in the market. We are conscious of it.

We evaluate it. We are not sitting on our laurels. We had discussion in our boardroom. We had discussions in rep our Board room this week about this topic. In fact, it was the majority of the conversation.

So We're fully aware of kind of where we sit. We know the disappointment in Cabbage Performance, share value performance. I happen to be a large shareholder also. I'm hacked off about it. And I'm not going to sit on my laurels and the team's not.

And we plan on looking for that best avenue to enhance shareholder value.

Speaker 3

Great. Thanks, Dan. Appreciate the comments there.

Speaker 2

You bet.

Speaker 1

Your next question comes from the line of Leo Mariani with KeyBanc. Rex, your line is open.

Speaker 5

Yes. Thank you. I was hoping that you could touch a little bit more on some of the issues with gas in Appalachia. It certainly sounded from your prepared comments that you were expecting to see some improvement as we get into the summer, but you also hinted that there could be a Much larger improvement as we approach the Leidy South expansion start up in December here. Do you guys really think that Leidy South can be kind of a game changer and set up for just much better local pricing in December Into 2022, you obviously talked a lot about stock performance and it seems as though maybe some of the basis issues here have

Speaker 3

kind of been what's caused some of the poor stock price performance.

Speaker 2

Yes, Leo, I agree with your sentiment on that And I'll turn this over to Jeff in one second. But we are excited about new takeaway capacity. Anytime you have a greater than a 0.5 Bcf a day that's going to now be A new infrastructure to exit volumes directly out of the basin we sell a portion of our gas into, we think is going to be constructive on differentials. We're very much looking forward repurchase to its positive effects. And I'll turn it over to Jeff for comments also, Leo.

Speaker 4

Okay. Good morning, Leo. Yes, Winding South is a major project in the basin and we're excited to get it in service. For us, it's But the basis differential for May did get whacked a little bit because of the construction project that's required to Build out that project is actually just a 6 mile replacement pipe that's I'm still have to install this month, Kind of a one shot and then that piece of the puzzle will be fixed. But overall, you've got to keep in mind To the CapEx exposure to local basis, it's really not as great as a lot of people believe.

In our investor guide, it's Alan, the website today, you'll see a pie chart or a little table that kind of highlights our distribution for our Product, if you look closely at that, our volumes, there's over 50% of those volumes that's tied to non ex or fixed price. And then we have about 10% of type of power that's roughly 70%. And we have about 15% or so of our gas volumes webcast. Head out on the East Coast to get price off of differentials in basis locations, not in basin locations, sort of like that. And then you add our cash piece then, which is completely different than local basis for 1st of the month sales Roughly 10%.

You really whittle down our basis exposure in local basis exposure To roughly 15% or maybe 15% to 18% depending on the time of year. So Yes, we're disappointed about the May differential blowout, if you will, due to a pipeline project that everyone knew was going to take place. But then again, that project prohibit any gas going into the lighting storage fields for the month of May. So we want to have a pickup Gas sales for storage in June and the rest of the summer up there and there's no supply increases and all the other factors that we mentioned were our expectations are a strong summer and a strong winter on pricing.

Speaker 5

Okay. That's very good color for sure.

Speaker 2

Why don't you just

Speaker 5

move over to returns on capital for a second here. Obviously, it was really nice to see the bump in the base dividend here. Obviously, I think you have a plan to pay off another $100,000,000 On the bond side, come September, just wanted to kind of see like as you guys think about these returns to shareholders, Do you want to be in a position where we're a little bit closer to having everything ready to pay off these $100,000,000 in bonds Before you start to get a little bit more aggressive on some of these other return strategies such as a larger supplemental dividend Or to maybe kind of start the buyback program? And then just additionally, can you just maybe remind us kind of if there's a specific formula in terms of how you're going to pay the supplemental dividend by the end of the year here?

Speaker 2

Good questions. And from our perspective and looking at what we what I have out in front of us and really just what Jeff was talking about. It's teed up very well For us moving forward into the rest of the year and into 2022. When you look at the expectations on free cash flow generation for Cabot, it's going to be a fairly robust number you can look at our history and we have been in the last few years fairly generous and rightfully so, generous on returning a large portion and much greater than 50% of our free cash flow back to shareholders. We have and I'll let Scott talk about our program a little bit, but we have our Dividend and the variable piece supplemental.

And we do expect That in light of the horizon and the picture we're painting, both from the Demand, LNG, Mexico, the rationalization of capital allocated in the basin, we're going to expect favorable pricing. So and And looking at how we would manage the available cash, we're already talking about it. And I think the shareholders should look forward to what we'll have out in front of us. I'll let Scott make

Speaker 6

a comment on Yes. Leo, I think as we see in this industry, there's lots of volatility. We do

Speaker 3

rep. I think it's teed up very positively.

Speaker 6

As Dan alluded to, we have been generous outside what that historically has been The supplemental dividend, the plan as from the formulaic perspective as you lay out or commented on Is designed that once we get through the Q3 call and we get into the Q4 midway through the Q4 and identify what that pricing is going to be. We'll know our pricing in early December. So we'll have a pretty good idea on our revenue stream for the full year. Webcast. We're not that complicated.

So we'll be able to and that's why we targeted in the telegraph that December will be the time of the supplemental dividend payment is because we'll have most of our ducks in a row. Obviously, December won't be closed, but 11 of the 12 months will be closed and we'll have pricing for the 12 months. So that's kind of the timing and the thought process for that. In terms of the buybacks and picking up on Josh's question also, again, we will be opportunistic as we were before. I think one thing is we've got the strongest balance sheet we've ever had.

If the market were to move against us, it's not catastrophic for us because we're able to weather any storm that can be thrown at us. At the same time, we're going to be very And our thought process around this return. And I think if I was a betting man, I would make sure well, not make sure, I would kind of lean towards the fact that you should probably expect something in excess of 50%. The 50% is our minimum commitment as we've said. And when you look back at the history as Dan alluded to, we've far

Speaker 5

receded. Okay. That's helpful color for sure guys. I guess what I was trying to get at is just Above that 50%, obviously you have the fixed dividend already in place here. And I guess you're just going to toggle between whatever you guys want to do on the buyback versus variable dividend.

So let's just make up some numbers if you had 500,000,000 Free cash flow this year and call it 170 committed to dividend. I guess that would leave $330,000,000 or so A little bit more and management basically just decide how much they want to pay as variable and how much they want to use as buyback as the year progresses. Is that kind of the right formula?

Speaker 6

So you're saying the free cash flow is $500,000,000 right?

Speaker 5

I'm just saying roughly speaking just in a random Yes.

Speaker 6

If it's $500,000,000 again our commitment is 250 And then above the $250,000,000 is the $180,000,000 of debt leaving a wedge of about $100,000,000 And we'll depending on market conditions will dictate once we get to the $250,000,000 already delivered and we will look at do we want to deliver more or have we already buying shares earlier in the year taking the wedge above the 2.50 Okay. Thank you. Yes. We're trying to make I'm not trying to be coy, Leo. We're trying to maintain flexibility in terms of Again, in your example, if the stock was at $15 let's say the stock was at $12 we would lean more heavily on buybacks.

If the stock was at $20 we probably wouldn't buy anything back and it would all be delivered in the supplemental cash dividend book.

Speaker 5

Okay. That's great color. Thank you.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Leon.

Speaker 1

Your next question comes from the line of Charles Meade with Johnson Rice. Your line is open.

Speaker 7

Good morning, Dan, to you and everyone else there.

Speaker 2

Hey, Charles.

Speaker 7

I really appreciated all the comments you made in your prepared remarks about your new completion design and the success you had in mitigating those current well effects. So I guess I have kind of a 2 part question. 1, It seems like you've substantially or maybe completely solved that issue. And then the second part of it is, there was one part that may be missing. So you have just the that $2,000,000 the impact is just down

Speaker 4

completion design.

Speaker 2

Yes, that's a good question, Charles. And what we've seen so far, no, it hasn't Cost us anything on our recipe on completion. We have the early results on our new wells. The early results have certainly met our expectation of what we would have anticipated rep. And on the 2,000,000 a day on the parent Well, that is basically no effect.

We would Anticipate possible just that to clean up and not be rounding as we move forward. So again, yes, we are excited and pleased. Some of our some of the revisions that we had to look at this last year were a result of this phenomenon, Every company in the industry is dealing with this. The 4 wells, repurchase. And 21 wells, 33 offsets.

We're getting a database now with the surgical completion we have That we think we are having a recipe that not only mitigates Offset, but it also affected completions in the child well also. We don't think we're compromising our completion standard.

Speaker 7

Got it. That's helpful detail, Dan. And then I had one other question just To see if I could maybe look ahead a bit at 2022 and the effects of your cadence in It looks like your 2021 capital spending plan is not going to be exactly the same, but it looks similar to your plan in 2020 in that the peak of spending is it comes in Q2 and there's a the low for the year is in Q4. And if you look at the effect that 2020 appeared to have on 2021, you declined sequentially in 1Q and 2Q based on that 2020 pattern. So Is it a fair reference that that's what we're going to be looking at in 'twenty two based on the 'twenty one spending pattern?

Or is that too simplistic?

Speaker 2

Well, one of the things that you need to take away, Charles, and I know you know that she follows Cabot for a long time, but I think it's worth repeating. Cabot is the lowest capital intensity company out there. 2 rigs, we have 3 rigs running right But we're going to lay one of those rigs down as we've already messaged. And we'll be between 1.5 and 2 frac crews. So anytime we are out there and it takes so few Well and pads to be able to maintain our forecast levels of production.

If you're if we drill an 8 well pad and that pad, whether it's The weather or for whatever reasons, if it's delayed, say $200,000,000 a day is delayed for a week, 200,000,000 a day delayed for a week and say that occurred at the very end of the quarter. We report when we bring those wells on repositioning the end of the quarter as new wells brought on, kind of like we did this quarter, bringing on 21 wells. But if that 8 well pad comes on the last week The quarter, it's reflected as a quarter completion, But 8 wells coming on at the end of a quarter had in essence very little impact on production in that quarter. So You're looking at a weak delay is 200,000,000 a day pad is 1.4 Bcf. So that is how To fine tune it like that is it's not always easy for us to cover our cadence or to smooth out our cadence Because we don't have 10 rigs running.

We don't have 5 or 6 frac crews. We don't have that mix of pads where you can balance out a new pad coming on at various different times. We're more lumpy just by the nature of being a very Low capital intensity company. It's a good news, but when we report and when we get granular on the It's kind of hard to use that metric with Cabot, just simply because just like we're going to see this year in the the second quarter, Q3, we're going to start bringing on a lot more stages than we had through the Q1 and we're going to start ramping up. So that's I understand where you're going with it.

I would love to be able to smooth it out, Charles, but that's some of what I deal with and the frustration I have on trying to report on a quarterly basis. And when I read the Between the number of wells brought on and how inefficient or the lack of production tie to the number of wells brought on, I look up and say, Well, maybe we need to put in there exactly when those wells came on in a month to be able to have a better time.

Speaker 7

Right. It's hard to know how much information is too much, but I appreciate your points. You're well taken. Thank you, Dan.

Speaker 2

Yes. Thanks, Charles.

Speaker 1

Your next question comes on the line of Arun Jayaram with JPMorgan Chase. Your line is open.

Speaker 8

Good morning, Dan. Quick question is the updated messaging does include sequential production growth in the back half of the year, specifically in the Q4 as Leidy South enter service. I know it's early, but I was just wondering about the potential production trajectory in 2022 and any thoughts on holding that call that higher 4Q exit rate flat? And thoughts on what kind of CapEx would that Require to keep 4Q flat.

Speaker 2

Yes. You're right. It is a little bit early for Disclosing 2022, we are working on 2022 program. We take into consideration just like we do on Our capital our free cash flow management, how we're going to allocate and what we're going to do with that, the same holds true with our capital program for 2022. We're evaluating How hot out of the box we might want to come and our design of our program, which would really answer that question, but it is early in the season rep to lay that out.

But I appreciate the question.

Speaker 9

Okay. And just I mean maybe

Speaker 8

a follow-up to Charles' question. I know you addressed this, but one of the So that came in, Dan, 80 wells for this year, you TIL 'twenty one. And so just one of the questions is why did production in 2Q, why is it going down sequentially? It may be that timing The answer that you just gave, but maybe a little bit more meat behind the bone there, because we were thinking maybe it would be a little bit more Flatter in terms of sequential just given the number of tied in lines in 1Q?

Speaker 2

Yes. It's just the again, the other element that needs to be rep focused on would be not only the timing, the number, But also keep in mind that our we're not In a geographically in a perfect square sectional drilling, Our units set up up there are various configurations by nature of Pennsylvania and our lateral lengths number of stages when you tie the well count is not as systematic As it would be, if you had and what I hope to be able to do in the Upper Marcellus, which I think is going to be more systematic than the drilling that we now have in the Lower Marcellus, where we drill 10,000 foot laterals and we'll have consistent number of stages and our clean map in the Upper Marcellus, Which will gain efficiencies for that project in the unit configurations and what we've drilled in the lower right now as we come back through the field to fill in. The number of frac stages in each well is going to be more variable with our program right now until we get into the upper. That affects exactly the cadence and the type of pads that we bring on along with rep the timing of those pads.

So, and I'm trying to answer the question on expectation in some of the variables that go into that expectations. To sum it up in a different way, we're I'm concerned about what we're seeing on results of our wells. In fact, we're more pleased with what we're seeing now On the offset impacts that had affected what we had seen in the rearview mirror a little bit in 2020, latter part of 2019 2020 when we had more of an impact rep on the parent wells and being able to unload those parent wells and some of the impacts we had with frac hits on those parent wells in the latter part of 2019 and latter part of 2020 that did affect our forecasting and how we would look at the measurement of results and the tie back to the number of wells we've brought on. Moving forward, assuming our results stay consistent as we have with our surgical completions, We don't expect now to have that impact as we bring on completions from the child wells. We do expect now to get the more immediate impact and uplift and similar production return to the parent wells after our completion of the child.

So we're hoping that we are mitigating that concern.

Speaker 8

Great. Thanks a lot, Dan.

Speaker 2

Thank you.

Speaker 1

Your next question comes from the line of Umang Chandra with Goldman Sachs. Your line is open.

Speaker 9

Hi, good morning and thank you for taking my questions.

Speaker 2

Good morning.

Speaker 9

Appreciate the comments around differentials improving with the start up of Flyde South later in the year. Wanted to get your latest Thoughts around local demand and takeaway, more medium to long term? And any projects which you are working on right now to stimulate that or capture The demand for Cabot.

Speaker 2

Yes. I'll I think Jeff is the perfect one to answer the question.

Speaker 4

Yes, good morning. As the lighthouse project takes our production down from Northeast PA into the Washington, D. C. Area, down to The DC area down to a location called River Road. Very important that that's Central location on both north and south depending on the season for gas demand.

And so enhancing our takeaway From Susquehanna County to that area, magnitude to 250,000 a day is an integrated project for us. However, I'll also say there are several projects in the works. I know you're familiar with P and E and the recent News on regarding it and their Supreme Court case on eminent domain. And then I'm sure you're aware that with Transco also announced Regional Energy Access, which is a close to a Bcf of a day of pipeline that's Basically a Brownfield project with existing right of ways. That project is also going to be connected to Camas supply area and in several different spots.

So we're excited for that project and And that actually came in service over the next couple of years.

Speaker 9

Great. Thank you so much.

Speaker 2

Thank you.

Speaker 1

Our final question comes from the line of David Deckelbaum with Cowen. Your line is open.

Speaker 3

Dan, you gave some really good information around the surgical completions and how they came better than expected. And you talked about If you can replicate those results moving forward, it mitigates a lot of the concerns that you would have had at least the current and And before you say there's no incremental cost, I have two questions. One would be, is there an incremental Cost that's just being offset by the location we're replacing these wells and sort of the amortization of previous costs on existing pads? And then 2, as you go forward, if you are able to replicate these results, does it change how How you think about your maintenance program going forward? And it wouldn't be something where we would see improvements in your capital efficiency metrics?

Speaker 2

Well, there's a couple of things. I'll answer the second question first, and I'm going to have you repeat the first question. David, you were breaking up on me a little bit. Rep But we feel good about what we've seen and our expectation about replication. The 4 pads, 21 wells.

Again, when we steer our wells on the Child Drilling, we know exactly what our landing points are and we're trying to mitigate The impacts also with picking our landing zones on the parent wells and As I've already indicated, the variables we're using on the completion. So we do anticipate positive results. We think that is going to certainly be a metric that will enhance our programs simply by not having rep. The impact that we saw in latter part of 2019 and some of our wells on 2020. We saw not only was it difficult to bring some of those wells back on and we took revisions on some of those wells.

And keep in mind, some of those wells that we took revisions on, We certainly have the ability to come back on. It's just when we see it, we report it as we see it. But we do and have seen some of the wells continue to improve back from the frac impact that we received. So we're optimistic going forward. We do think That if we look back and look at that as a negative surprise what's And David, I'm going to have to ask you for repeating the first question.

Speaker 3

Thanks, Dan. Happy to. I'm sorry for The first question was just you talked earlier that the surgical completions don't add any incremental cost. But I guess In isolation, are they adding costs that's just being offset by savings of existing pads or existing infrastructure that's in place?

Speaker 2

Let me make sure I understand the question. For 1, The completion design is not adding any incremental cost to What we would have done if we would have completed the entire lateral in a similar fashion.

Speaker 3

I would say that effectively answers it now.

Speaker 2

Yes. And in fact, I would have to get Phil Stornacker kind of to answer the question more directly, but you might have incremental savings if you would, if you have Maybe less fluid or less cropland in a particular frac, but I don't think it'd be Consequential enough on the savings side to try to dissect it.

Speaker 3

I appreciate that. Thanks, Dan.

Speaker 7

If I could just

Speaker 3

pop in one quickly to Scott, maybe it's not quick, but Scott, you mentioned earlier what? The span of buybacks. And I know that it was more explicit as it relates to the incremental 50% of excess free cash of buying back more shares and weighting that more heavily at 15% versus distributing more cash at And one, I just want to understand like as you think about that, that's really a 2021 reality with the free cash that's coming forward? And then along those lines, you guys are approaching 0 net debt. You have the bullet payments that come in this year.

The revolver is pretty clean here and there's a lot of capacity there. Do you think that do you have a goal of being at 0 times or might you lean on that Capacity a bit more to stabilize shares.

Speaker 2

Yes. I'll make a quick comment, turn it to Scott. But flexibility. I can assure you in this environment that we're not going to a 0 net debt position. We have flexibility.

I know Scott talks about it, Scott and Matt visit about kind of what capacity we have, how we might utilize that to enhance shareholder value. And we're going to continue to do that. And we're not so conservative, I'm not so conservative to where we're going to try to get to net debt and not utilize the opportunity with this available cash to Enhance shareholder value. And I'll turn that

Speaker 6

to Scott. There's nothing to add. There's really not. I mean, at the end of the day, Dave, again, there's no intent to be 0 debt, even net debt. The plan, we have nothing maturing next year.

We have a $62,000,000 tranche in 2023. You probably hit 6% money, you probably pay that off. Again, if the cash flow profile stays there. But for the remaining 800,000,000 We'll look to refinance those biggest tranches in 2024 and then there's another tranche in 2026. So those would be there would be $800,000,000 to $1,000,000,000 of kind of permanent financing in a status quo case in the balance sheet.

But as Dan said, we have lots of flexibility. Again, you know we're also more we're very judicious with shareholder money. We'd like to tell you after the fact, after we've done it, we don't like to get over our skis and make promises that if the conditions change And it doesn't make sense that we're putting a defensive posture. So I don't mean to say trust us, but I think we have a good track record of returning And being very disciplined. Quite honestly, I'll be the buyback program of old, I I think Matt and I had this debate.

I think every share I bought or instructed him to buy back has been bought at a higher price than we've recently been at. So that Kind of hits the little bit of the pause button going, okay, where does this settle in at? Because we are in a different dynamic. In terms of Your initial question, we had shareholders a year ago, again, in the thick of COVID saying we want all E and P companies to be 0 debt. That's not our path and I think the market has quickly reverted as people were able to extend out their maturities, repay debt as Dan said in his script.

And we're on different footing as an industry Yes, even with the ESG focus than we were and have been in a very long period of time. The discipline and everybody's focus on Being judicious in their capital programs just makes for a better industry and better companies across the board, not just cap.

Speaker 3

Looking forward to seeing how well you guys get. Thank you. Appreciate it.

Speaker 2

Thank you, David.

Speaker 1

This concludes our question and answer session. I would now like to turn the conference back over to Dan Dinges for closing remarks.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Angie, and great questions. I appreciate Investors, patience. Again, I mentioned I'm a shareholder. My frustration is equally as high as maybe some of yours. And I can assure you that My optimism going into the season we're going into and the setup that we have out in front of us is significantly better than it has been.

And I'm optimistic that we're going to be able to start enhancing shareholder value. So thanks again and thank you for the questions. I look forward to the next visit.

Speaker 1

This concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect.

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