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Earnings Call: Q1 2021

Apr 30, 2021

Operator

Thank you for standing by, and welcome to the Casella Waste Systems, Inc. Q1 2021 earnings. At this time, all participants are in listen only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question and answer session. To ask a question during the session, you will need to press star then one on your telephone. Please be advised that today's call is being recorded. If you require additional assistance, you may press star then zero to reach an operator. I would now like to hand the call over to Joseph Fusco, Vice President of Communications. Please go ahead.

Joseph Fusco
VP of Communications, Casella Waste Systems

Thank you this morning for joining us, and welcome. With us today are John Casella, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of Casella Waste Systems, Edwin D. Johnson, our President and Chief Operating Officer, Edmond R. Coletta, our Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, and Jason Mead, our Vice President of Finance. Today, we will be discussing our 2021 first quarter results. These results were released yesterday afternoon. Along with a brief review of those results and an update on the company's activities and business environment, we will be answering your questions as well. First, as you know, I must remind everyone that various remarks that we may make about the company's future expectations, plans, and prospects constitute forward-looking statements for the purposes of the safe harbor provisions under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995.

Actual results may differ materially from those indicated by those forward-looking statements as a result of various important factors, including those discussed in the Risk Factors section of our most recent annual report on Form 10-K, which is on file with the SEC. Any forward-looking statements represent our views only as of today and should not be relied upon as representing our views as of any subsequent date. While we may elect to update forward-looking statements at some point in the future, we specifically disclaim any obligation to do so even if our views change. These forward-looking statements should not be relied upon as representing our views as of any date subsequent to today. During the call, we will be referring to non-GAAP financial measures. These non-GAAP measures are not prepared in accordance with generally accepted accounting principles.

Reconciliations of the non-GAAP financial measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measures, to the extent they are available without unreasonable effort, are available in the appendix to our investor slide presentation, which is available in the Investors section of our website at ir.casella.com. With that, I'll turn it over to John Casella, who'll begin today's discussion.

John Casella
Chairman and CEO, Casella Waste Systems

Thanks, Joe. Good morning, everyone, welcome to our first quarter 2021 conference call. Obviously, we're very pleased with our results and continued execution against our key strategies. We're real proud of the work that the entire team has done throughout the entire period of time with regard to the pandemic, and our management team continues to do a great job of taking care of our people. Obviously, our people are doing a great job taking care of our customers and the communities that we serve. Our performance really reflects a maintained focus and commitment by our teams on service excellence through this dynamic period. Over the past year, I've witnessed our culture strengthening even further across the organization, driving success related to both meeting the needs of our customers as well as executing against key operating metrics and goals.

As expected in the quarter, we experienced lower economic activity levels compared to the first quarter of 2020, and as such, solid waste volumes declined 3.3%. Despite this headwind, consolidated revenues were up 3.6%, and adjusted EBITDA improved 15.9%, with margin expansion of 215 basis points year-over-year. At the same time, we grew adjusted free cash flow by $6.9 million year-over-year in the quarter through our strong operating performance, continued disciplined capital allocation, and working capital improvement. Although solid waste volumes were negative in the quarter, the progression from Q4 through April has been positive. The sequential trends and outlook indicate a continued recovery as part of the economic reopening across the Northeast. Some brief review of our key strategies. First, on disposal. While tonnage trends are improving, volumes were down in the first quarter.

This was largely driven by lower landfill tons year-over-year, as we experienced lower volumes from the greater New York City area into several of our sites. While we do not have collection operations in or around New York City, we do accept waste from third-party customers within its geography. As we know, the city has been one of the hardest hit areas in the country related to the pandemic and one of the slowest to reopen. We have seen positive volume trends over the past several weeks related to business and construction activity levels beginning to come back online in a more robust manner. As you probably know, Mayor de Blasio announced yesterday that the city is going to reopen entirely on July 1, which is obviously going to be a positive.

With the vaccine rollout and restrictions loosening, we expect to see continued improvement in volume levels throughout the year. Despite lower volumes, we have remained disciplined from a pricing perspective. We advanced 3.5% reported price, landfill price in the quarter. We also continued to focus on operating programs. Disposal adjusted EBITDA margin expansion improved as we flex certain variable costs in line with volumes without sacrificing safety or compliance. Overall, our disposal assets are well-positioned within the capacity-constrained Northeast. Our pricing, operating, and permitting outlook remains positive. In the collection business, recent volume trends are also improving in the collection business, as we're experiencing increased commercial and roll-off service levels closer to normal seasonal levels. Similar to disposal, sequential volume trends are on a positive trajectory.

Over the last year, we have leveraged improved real-time business intelligence to better flex our variable costs. We have continued to invest in further automation, route optimization, and technology in an effort to drive improved operating performance. We have improved collection adjusted EBITDA margins for five consecutive quarters. We are up 330 basis points since 2019. We've advanced collection price by 3.5% in the quarter. As the economy continues to reopen across the Northeast, volumes improve. We will consider inflation across various categories. We will analyze further pricing opportunities over the balance of the year while continuing to enhance our operating programs.

On Resource Solutions, if you recall, in January of last year, we combined our recycling, organics, and customer solutions businesses under Resource Solutions in an effort to better align cross-functional sales, operating, back office teams, while strengthening our ability to attract, win, and retain profitable customers within these segments. This January, we took another step in further integrating these teams to drive increased synergies by creating processing and non-processing business unit groups within Resource Solutions. With this, we aim to drive better teamwork, improve the organization across the sales team, and position our business to best meet the needs of our customers. Within processing are our recycling and biosolids facilities, where we receive inbound materials, process it, and produce an end product. Non-processing consists of brokerage and resource management services provided to large customers with broad sustainability needs.

Resource Solutions performance was strong in the quarter, with adjusted EBITDA up $1.4 million year-over-year while expanding margins. Aside from strong financial performance, I'm proud of the work of Resource Solutions team in regard to the recognition we received this March from Becton Dickinson as its top global supplier in sustainability category for resource management services delivered to their manufacturing and distribution operations across North America. Finally, I'd like to highlight our capital allocation and growth strategy. Our acquisition pipeline remains robust with over $400 million of addressable opportunities in annualized revenue over the top of our existing footprint in the Northeast. We are well-positioned to continue to execute against our growth strategy in a disciplined manner, given the strength of our balance sheet.

We are focused on opportunistically putting this capital to work on deals that meet our criteria from a strategic fit and a financial return perspective, where we can drive higher levels of free cash flow and continue to grow the business. Wrapping up, we are executing well against our strategies as reflected by our continued performance in the first quarter against our 2021 plan. We expect continued strength across our solid waste and Resource Solutions operations and a paced reopening of the major cities across the Northeast. With that, I'll turn it over to Ned.

Edmond R. Coletta
SVP and CFO, Casella Waste Systems

Thanks, John. Revenues in the first quarter were $189.5 million, up $6.6 million or up 3.6% year-over-year, with 2.1% of the year-over-year change driven by acquisition activity. Solid waste revenues were up 2% year-over-year, with price up 3.4%, acquisition growth of 2.9%, and volumes down 3.3%. This is actually a sequential improvement from the fourth quarter 2020, when our solid waste volumes were down 4.6% year-over-year. Revenues in the collection line of business were up 3.1% year-over-year, with price up 3.5% and volumes down 2.3%. As we have discussed over the last year, we've kept close track of the commercial and industrial collection customers who reduced service levels or shut off services due to the COVID-19 pandemic.

We experienced a very steady rebound of service levels from May 2020 through October 2020, we saw a slight decline of service levels in November and December as COVID waves hit the Northeast. This negative trend reversed in early 2021, we have seen a slow but steady rebound of collection service levels year to date. Through late April, we have recovered roughly another 5% of the losses, we have now recovered over 70% of the commercial and industrial collection services on a revenue basis that were reduced or suspended due to COVID. Revenues in the disposal line of business were down 2% year-over-year in the quarter, with landfill pricing up 3.5% and our landfill tons down roughly 3.8% year-over-year. As John pointed out, much of the negative year-over-year variance is due to lower economic activity in the greater New York City area.

Resource Solutions revenues were up 8.1% year-over-year, mainly due to higher recycling commodity prices, partially offset by lower tipping fees. Our average commodity revenue per ton was up 150% year-over-year in the quarter on substantially higher cardboard and mixed paper pricing, higher metals pricing, and higher plastics pricing. Adjusted EBITDA was $38.8 million in the quarter, up $5.3 million or up 15.9% year-over-year. Our margins were 20.5% in the quarter, up 215 basis points year-over-year. Our solid waste adjusted EBITDA was $34.6 million in the quarter. This was up $3.9 million year-over-year, with the gains driven by both collection and disposal lines of business. Our Resource Solutions adjusted EBITDA was $4 million in the quarter, up $1.4 million year-over-year, with improvements from recycling and organics processing.

While our commodity prices were up significantly year-over-year, this increase was mainly passed back to our customers through lower tipping fees or lower SRA fees. These floating fee structures effectively manage over 90% of our commodity risk today. Cost of operations in the quarter were down $1.4 million year-over-year, and down 318 basis points as a percentage of revenue. Almost all cost categories improved as a percentage of revenue as our team effectively flexed costs to lower revenue levels and continued to execute very well against key operating initiatives. General and administrative costs in the quarter were up $2.8 million year-over-year, with $3.6 million of the increase driven by higher bonus and equity accruals due to timing differences and higher performance this year. Given the reversal of the tax valuation allowance in fiscal 2020, we now expect an income statement tax provision of roughly 31% in fiscal 2021.

However, our cash taxes will remain low at approximately $1.5 million in the year, given our net operating loss position. In the quarter, our income tax provision was $2.4 million. This is up $2.3 million from the same period in 2020. As expected, we only paid cash taxes of $200,000 in the quarter. As of March 31st, we had $550.2 million of debt, $152.6 million of cash, and liquidity of $326.2 million. Our consolidated net leverage ratio, as defined by our credit facility, was 2.66x as of March 31st. However, if we net 100% of our cash against our debt, our true net leverage was 2.11x . We're very happy with our capital structure where it sits, and it allows us to continue to execute against our strategy to grow with investments and acquisitions.

Net cash provided by operating activities was $32.1 million in the quarter, up $17.4 million year-over-year, driven by higher operating results and $11.5 million of positive changes in assets and liabilities year-over-year. This positive change was mainly driven by timing differences related to accounts payable and the continued great work by our accounts receivable team, managing our receivables at historically low levels. Adjusted free cash flow was $11 million in the quarter, up $6.9 million year-over-year. We continue to invest in the planned capital expenditures at newly acquired operations during the quarter to drive operating synergies and integration, and we also continue to invest in the development of the phase 6 landfill expansion at the WasteUSA landfill in the quarter. We expect this expansion to be completed in 2021.

We don't typically raise our guidance levels in the first quarter, given the short duration from publishing our initial guidance in February. However, given the solid execution year-to-date, combined with our increased visibility of economic trends, we did update our fiscal 2021 guidance ranges yesterday. We have reaffirmed our revenue and net income guidance ranges, and we raised our ranges for adjusted EBITDA, adjusted free cash flow, and net cash provided by operating activities. The updated 2021 ranges assume a stable economic environment continuing through the remainder of the year, with only a modest rebound in solid waste volumes as major cities in our markets are very slowly reopening from the pandemic, most notably New York City. The increase in adjusted EBITDA and adjusted free cash flow ranges is mainly driven by higher operating margins, combined with slightly lower than planned solid waste pricing and slightly higher than planned volumes.

We expect solid waste volumes to be up roughly 8% year-over-year in the second quarter and to be up roughly 1% year-over-year in the third and fourth quarters. To put this into context, last year, solid waste volumes were down $41 million due to lower economic activity associated with COVID. At the current midpoint of our guidance, we only have $10 million-$12 million of volume growth in 2021. As we typically point out, the guidance does not include the impact of any acquisitions that have yet to be completed, and we do include 1.5% of revenue growth associated with acquisitions that we completed last year into the first quarter this year. With that, I'll hand it over to Ed.

Edwin D. Johnson
President and COO, Casella Waste Systems

Thanks, Ned. Good morning, everyone. From an operational standpoint, we had a really strong start to the year. Usually, the first quarter is uneventful. It's the winter quarter. Seasonally, it's typically a lower revenue and margin quarter for us. This year, our performance is notably strong. We improved margin significantly across all lines of business. As we break down the details, you will see that the improvement was primarily driven by operational efficiencies. Consolidated cost of ops as a percentage of revenue improved by over 300 basis points over Q1 last year. Our landfill results continue to reflect the fundamental improvements we started making over a year ago by focusing on daily fill plans, leachate management, efficient soil usage, and proactive gas collection. We are staying ahead of issues that are costly to fix after the fact. We are now seeing the benefits.

The effect of COVID on economic activity, particularly volumes coming out of New York City, kept volumes low in the quarter. Tonnage was down from last year's first quarter 3.8%. Our pricing was a little muted at 3.5%. As I have pointed out in the past, landfills are high fixed cost operations, and margins tend to struggle in lower volume, but we are continuing to bring down cost and cost of ops as a percentage of revenue improved by over 220 basis points and produced our best Q1 EBITDA margin contribution in over 10 years. We are seeing volumes return in April. We are optimistic that the economy in the Northeast is starting to come back, and certain sectors, like construction, seem to be leading the recovery. Our collection operations, which generated a little over 50% of our Q1 revenue, had similar results.

Volume was down 2.3% in the quarter versus Q1 2020, but cost of ops as a percentage of revenue improved by roughly 240 basis points. We improved our key productivity metric, which is variable margin contribution per labor hour, by 15.9% over Q1 last year. The main driver of this improvement was in our residential service, where our focus has been on automation, but the roll-off and front load lines of service also improved. In addition to our focus on automation, we added a corporate routing support function a year ago and have improved our routing efficiency. Routing efficiency is something that deteriorates slowly over time in a division and can be hard to recognize quickly at the division level. Adding the dedicated resources to continually review our routes has been a powerful driver for cost reductions.

As a result of increased automation, improved routing, our pricing discipline, and other key initiatives, we have consistently improved our overall variable margin contribution per labor hour, quarter after quarter, ever since we adopted that metric a few years ago. Our Resource Solutions Group produced similar margin improvements. Our volume and revenue remained flat, and like the other segments, the big savings has been on the cost side. Over time, we continued to tweak the level of automation in our processing lines, and this is coming through in labor savings, partially offset by the continuing extra cost of COVID protection to keep our workers safe. Processing volumes have been steady year-over-year, and cost of ops improved by over 330 basis points in this line of business. Simply stated, we had a great quarter, and I wanted to close with a comment about our management team.

As always, I am very appreciative of the extra efforts that our division managers and ops managers have made to keep our employees safe, to serve our customers through the pandemic. Also make operational improvements in their market over those past 12 months. An additional factor that is helping to make all this possible is our focus over the past three years in building the depth of our upper management, adding a senior VP of ops focused on collection activities, a VP of post-collection, the home office ops support team I mentioned earlier, and two regional ops positions. In addition, the restructuring of our Resource Solutions Group has added structure to our operations for processing and non-processing of materials. It also helps that we have a very operationally focused HR department that is supporting our divisions and keeping us ahead of labor challenges.

With these changes in place, I have confidence that our progress will continue. With that, I'd like to now turn it back to the operator to start the Q&A.

Operator

As a reminder, to ask a question, please press star then one. If your question has been answered and you'd like to remove yourself from the queue, please press the pound key. Our first question comes from Tyler Brown with Raymond James. Your line is open.

Edwin D. Johnson
President and COO, Casella Waste Systems

Morning, Tyler.

John Casella
Chairman and CEO, Casella Waste Systems

Morning, Tyler.

Patrick Tyler Brown
Analyst, Raymond James

Oh, okay, good. You can hear me. Hey, thanks for the commentary on New York City and how that impacted landfill tonnage, I guess, across the broader region. I was kind of hoping you could put a finer point on it. I mean, just how important was the city going to sleep on the volumes over the past year? I mean, maybe I'm not appreciating it. Again, just a finer point on how important that was.

Edmond R. Coletta
SVP and CFO, Casella Waste Systems

Yeah. Last year, our landfill volumes were down 11%, or roughly 460,000-480,000 tons year-over-year. Remarkably, about 80% of that decline was related to customers in New York City or the surrounding areas.

Historically, it's not that big of a mix, but we saw other parts of our franchise really come back. You and I have had this conversation before, with us being 70% in the secondary markets, but we saw some really nice economic trends and construction trends later in the year from those secondary markets, but New York City just completely lagged, and that same trend came into Q1, Tyler.

Patrick Tyler Brown
Analyst, Raymond James

Interesting. I know, Ed, you kind of alluded to it, but with the weakness in the volume, I do kind of wonder, did that have a broader impact on landfill pricing late last year and into this year? If so, if things do kind of kick back up, do you expect that to maybe re-accelerate?

Edwin D. Johnson
President and COO, Casella Waste Systems

Yeah. As you know, landfills are very volume sensitive. Last year, the economy in Q1 pre-COVID was kind of booming. We had all the tons we could handle, and we pushed through some pretty heavy pricing. Once COVID hit, that slowed down a bit, and going into Q1 this year, we were short of volumes, so we weren't that aggressive on price. Now April's come, and now we're actually tracking very nicely in April, so the volume seemed to be coming back now. It'll help us with the price level.

Edmond R. Coletta
SVP and CFO, Casella Waste Systems

You're also seeing-

Edwin D. Johnson
President and COO, Casella Waste Systems

Ned, it started coming back in March, right?

Edmond R. Coletta
SVP and CFO, Casella Waste Systems

Yeah. Right.

John Casella
Chairman and CEO, Casella Waste Systems

It was January, February. It actually really began to come back fairly significantly in March, and it's continued through April.

Edmond R. Coletta
SVP and CFO, Casella Waste Systems

I'll make two other comments. If you look everywhere other than some of our kind of New York, downstate customers, our pricing programs are very much intact, and we're getting the same level of legitimate pricing increases in the business. You're also seeing a little bit of the impacts from last year. Price is not just related to one quarter, it's a buildup of the three quarters in the current quarter. We did do a little bit less pricing in Q2, Q3, and Q4 of 2020, given COVID. Coming into this year, many parts of the business were back on track. To Ed's point, certain of those customers in New York were probably eased up a little bit in Q1 from what we typically would do.

Patrick Tyler Brown
Analyst, Raymond James

Interesting. If you look back, I think you repriced the heavy part of the collection book early in 2020, like right before COVID.

Edwin D. Johnson
President and COO, Casella Waste Systems

Yep. That's right.

Patrick Tyler Brown
Analyst, Raymond James

Do you think the shape of how your pricing will look, Ned? Do you actually think your collection pricing will accelerate as the year goes on, just with the mathematics of easier comps? Just curious.

Edmond R. Coletta
SVP and CFO, Casella Waste Systems

Yeah. The shape of our curve every year is the first quarter is the highest pricing quarter, and then it actually declines given how our price increases roll out. We've readdressed the shape this year. It's actually going to accelerate through the year given what we just talked about, where the comps get easier year-over-year, and we've held back a little bit of pricing, as Ed just discussed as well. We actually will see a little different trend this year in our pricing model. We're not losing confidence in our pricing power in the market, nor are we giving pricing concessions. It's just a different cadence of the program.

Patrick Tyler Brown
Analyst, Raymond James

Right. Yeah. No, that's helpful for modeling. Okay. Then I don't want to dwell on the guidance too much, but just to be clear, so there wasn't any change in the volume assumption in that change. I mean, there was no change in revenue, is that right?

Edmond R. Coletta
SVP and CFO, Casella Waste Systems

No, there wasn't. As I said earlier in my comments, we have priced maybe at the midpoint, maybe a quarter percent lower, but we haven't lost any confidence in our pricing programs, and we have volumes maybe a quarter percent higher at the midpoint in our internal model. Not a drastic change, but a lot's changing very rapidly right now. That news out of New York City yesterday is big. We're seeing some of the best trends we've seen in construction in over 10-15 years in the Northeast. It's a dynamic environment. Our tweak to guidance was just that. It's a small tweak.

We don't typically touch guidance in the first quarter, and as we come into the second quarter, we're really going to be reassessing where we are in the year, and you know us, there could be more as we kind of get more visibility into the year and execute further.

Patrick Tyler Brown
Analyst, Raymond James

Okay. Yeah, no, that's very helpful. Then just lastly, maybe just a quick question on M&A. John, you mentioned a robust pipeline. I think you said $400 million of addressable revenue out there. Just any thoughts on what we should expect this year or maybe hope to expect on the M&A front?

John Casella
Chairman and CEO, Casella Waste Systems

I think that we're pretty excited about where we sit there. With the vaccination moving forward, things are beginning to open up a little bit more. I think that we're working on $80 million to $100 million of that $400 million in various stages, Tyler, and I think that we'll see some activity towards the second half of the year from an acquisition standpoint.

Patrick Tyler Brown
Analyst, Raymond James

Okay. All right, guys. Thank you so much for the time.

Edmond R. Coletta
SVP and CFO, Casella Waste Systems

Thank you.

Edwin D. Johnson
President and COO, Casella Waste Systems

Thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from Hamzah Mazari with Jefferies. Your line is open.

Hamzah Mazari
Analyst, Jefferies

Hey, good morning. Good morning. Just on the M&A side, you're working on $80 out of the $400. How long have you been working on the $80 million? Do you think that capital gains tax changes accelerates transactions for you guys, or are you not hearing that?

Edwin D. Johnson
President and COO, Casella Waste Systems

I think that it probably does, but it's probably only recently, in the last month or two, where there's been activity discussions around the implications of a Biden tax increase, particularly as it relates to, obviously, capital gains. Probably six months is the answer to the first part of that question, Hamzah. We've been working on those transactions for probably about six months now. Probably in the last month or so, we're starting to hear a little bit of noise on tax indication.

Hamzah Mazari
Analyst, Jefferies

Got you. My second question, and I'll turn it over, is just on pricing. Just following up on the pricing. I understand the deceleration in Q1, just thoughts on what is the sustainable pricing for Casella. What I mean by that is, 2018, 4.5%, 2019, a little over 5%, during COVID last year, 4.2%. Now we're at 3% and change, it builds up, as you said. On a sustainable level, going forward, help us get comfortable. Is 4% the right number? Is 3% the right number? Is it 5%? Just help us think through that a little bit. The reason why I'm asking is, we're trying to get comfortable if you've seen sort of this big catch up on pricing and now your normal price is 3% and change going forward.

Edmond R. Coletta
SVP and CFO, Casella Waste Systems

Yeah. Good question. That question has a couple legs to it, and as you know, not a lot of our business is in markets that's CPI linked. It's maybe 10%-15% of our contracts, and we've been moving that contract base to more and more of the trash and garbage index, which is now sitting north of 4%. Most of our contracts we can price at will, subscription, residential, small can commercial, roll off line of business. We have been pricing pretty aggressively to stay ahead of some meaningful inflation in the Northeast. If you stop to look at our margin improvements over the last year, they're excellent. Very good. Our key operating programs are working good. We're pricing a little bit lighter than we had a few years ago, but it's partially by design, partially the cadence we talked about a minute ago.

Our game plan for the year is still that 3.5%-4.5% range. As we look out to future years, we're still looking around that 4% range. What it really comes down to, we're tweaking, we're looking at elasticity, we're looking at our margins. We're trying to have a constant cadence of improving margins as a business, and that weighs into the pricing strategy.

Hamzah Mazari
Analyst, Jefferies

Got it. Very helpful. Thank you so much.

Edmond R. Coletta
SVP and CFO, Casella Waste Systems

Thank you, Hamzah.

Operator

Our next question comes from Michael Hoffman with Stifel. Your line is open.

Michael Hoffman
Analyst, Stifel

Hey, thank you very much.

Edwin D. Johnson
President and COO, Casella Waste Systems

Hey, Michael.

Michael Hoffman
Analyst, Stifel

Did you see normal seasonality from just overall the business pattern, and then things were recovering underneath it, and that's part of the help, and then you ran it better?

Edwin D. Johnson
President and COO, Casella Waste Systems

Yes. Absolutely. The normal seasonality is still there, but the COVID effect is still in that January, February volume. Now we're seeing almost a totally normal seasonal uptick March and April.

Michael Hoffman
Analyst, Stifel

Got it. Okay. Ned, just to refine the point of So you're sticking with the ranges 1-2.5 for volume, 3.5-4.5, but you're now suggesting to all of us, we ought to settle in around a 1.9 or 2 as your full year number for volume and a 3.5-3.7 for the price. Did I hear that messaging correct?

Edmond R. Coletta
SVP and CFO, Casella Waste Systems

That's where we are at our model at this moment, Michael, and we'll look to update again next quarter. We probably aren't shy lighter on price given that we held back a little bit of pricing in Q1 just with some of those New York City impacts, and we're seeing a little bit higher volumes. There's not a massive change there to the cadence for the year. As I talked about earlier, we only really have about $10 million of the solid waste volumes coming back this year that we lost last year of the $40 million. The projection's not for absolute recovery, it's for a partial recovery.

Michael Hoffman
Analyst, Stifel

Digging into that $10 million, is the unit price of that $10 million flat year-over-year?

Edmond R. Coletta
SVP and CFO, Casella Waste Systems

No.

Michael Hoffman
Analyst, Stifel

It's up or down?

Edmond R. Coletta
SVP and CFO, Casella Waste Systems

No. It's up.

Michael Hoffman
Analyst, Stifel

It's up. Okay. You're getting some of that $10 million recovery is the price, as opposed to if I looked at it on the tons, instead I'm not 25% of the tons back yet. Something less plus price.

Edmond R. Coletta
SVP and CFO, Casella Waste Systems

If you look at it, the biggest laggard in the portfolio is on the landfill tonnage side. We're running at, let's say, 93% of expected run rate. We're running close to 100% of expected run rate on the temporary roll-off side, and we're running about 95%-96% expected run rate on commercial. That's definitely the laggard, and as Ed pointed out, that there's a lot of leverage on the landfill side to margins as well.

Michael Hoffman
Analyst, Stifel

Great. Of the 460,000-480,000, the 80% that's New York, is more of that a high-value ton like an MSW than a C&D ton that might not be as high value?

Edmond R. Coletta
SVP and CFO, Casella Waste Systems

Yeah, it's about 2/3. One-third, 2/3 MSW, 1/3 C&D, Michael and in the mix. And we saw, you know, as you know, we have both commercial customers out of the city that are bringing us MSW, and we have commercial customers bringing us C&D. The residential waste in the city goes through the Department of Sanitation contracts.

Michael Hoffman
Analyst, Stifel

Right. Points of leverage here are the governor doesn't prevent the mayor from opening on July 1st because there seems to be Well, it's got to distract attention from something, right? Anyway, let's say it happens. The MSW is a buyer quality ton that starts to ramp back up, and that gives you some incremental pricing leverage that helps the spot market, and therefore that's the reversion of the mean higher, is the leverage. Is that the way to think about it?

Edmond R. Coletta
SVP and CFO, Casella Waste Systems

Yeah.

Michael Hoffman
Analyst, Stifel

Okay. You run your business appropriately, and when it happens, you're going to be able to capture this leverage because of the way you've got the cost structure leaned out, is the other part of it.

Edmond R. Coletta
SVP and CFO, Casella Waste Systems

Yes, absolutely.

Michael Hoffman
Analyst, Stifel

Okay. On the M&A world, if capital gains ends up being a driver of someone's decision, how late can they make the decision? They word it the other way, when do you have to start a process, so if the calendar year was the trigger, you could get deals done relative to a tax motivation? How late does somebody have to say, "Buy me?

John Casella
Chairman and CEO, Casella Waste Systems

I think it certainly depends on the size of the business, Michael. Obviously, the larger the business, the more time it's going to take to get through that, especially if you have to go through Hart-Scott-Rodino, et cetera. I think that we're only beginning to see people think about it in the last 30 to 45 days, where prior to that, it wasn't really on the radar. I do think that there's more activity now. People are starting to think about it. The timing is going to be really based on the size of the business. Smaller businesses, I think, much shorter period of time to get through due diligence and get it done properly.

Edmond R. Coletta
SVP and CFO, Casella Waste Systems

Type of transaction as well. An asset purchase is typically a lot simpler and faster for us than the stock purchase.

John Casella
Chairman and CEO, Casella Waste Systems

Yeah.

Michael Hoffman
Analyst, Stifel

Okay, last one for me. We hosted the CEO of WIN Waste on a call recently and asked a question about where he thought 2024 Boston disposal could end up, and he suggested a sort of $110-$120 range versus the low $90s that it was renewed in 2019. How much of the 4% long-term pricing is dependent on that happening, where the knock-on consequence all the way through the market is that helps lift the pricing versus just what you're doing today?

Edmond R. Coletta
SVP and CFO, Casella Waste Systems

Yeah. I think if you look at the marketplace, there's some pretty key facilities that are tracking towards closing in the next handful of years, Michael. As you're aware, like Brookhaven on Long Island, we've got the Allied Niagara facility up in the Buffalo market, the Albany landfill. We also have MIRA, the burn plant in Connecticut, scheduled to close in June of 2022. There's like 2.5 To 3 million tons of capacity coming out of this market. You might be off a year or so either way if you kind of stretch the end of life. There's a lot of capacity coming out of this market. There's not enough places to put all that garbage. The pricing is not dependent upon the city of Boston.

The pricing is just going to be a supply-demand imbalance and where that waste needs to go. There's a lot of opportunity, I think, as we look over the next five years.

Michael Hoffman
Analyst, Stifel

Okay. Last one, I forgot to ask this. McKean, what's the progress on this sort of thinking out over the next two years, being able to open up that rail haul opportunity? How are you doing on that?

John Casella
Chairman and CEO, Casella Waste Systems

Yeah. We're in the process right now of the team is working on the permits. We're working on design. I think that we're on track to move that forward in the next couple of years, Michael. As you know, we've got some of the permits already in place. We need some additional permits. We've got to get the most productive design from a rail perspective. Moving forward and certainly, we think that we're on track right now.

Michael Hoffman
Analyst, Stifel

Okay, great. Thank you very much.

John Casella
Chairman and CEO, Casella Waste Systems

You're welcome.

Edmond R. Coletta
SVP and CFO, Casella Waste Systems

Thank you, Michael.

John Casella
Chairman and CEO, Casella Waste Systems

Thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from Sean Eastman with KeyBanc. Your line is open.

Edwin D. Johnson
President and COO, Casella Waste Systems

Good morning, Sean.

John Casella
Chairman and CEO, Casella Waste Systems

Good morning, Sean.

Edmond R. Coletta
SVP and CFO, Casella Waste Systems

Good morning, Sean.

Sean Eastman
Analyst, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Morning. Strong start to the year. Thanks for taking my questions.

Edmond R. Coletta
SVP and CFO, Casella Waste Systems

Absolutely.

Sean Eastman
Analyst, KeyBanc Capital Markets

I just wanted to go back to Hamzah's question on sort of the sustainable yields in the business. It's really more a function of the underlying inflation in the business, right? When we hear companies sort of sounding the alarm bell on inflation and labor, you guys can be nimble around that, given the disposal capacity dynamic and given that only 10%-15% of the book is indexed to CPI. Is that right?

Edmond R. Coletta
SVP and CFO, Casella Waste Systems

Yeah, you're 100% right. You're pointing out something super important where we're not relying upon trailing government-driven statistics like CPI and urban CPI and whatnot to drive our ability to recover inflation. As you've seen over the years, 90% of our collection book of business, we can price either per contract or at will, and we have a lot of ability to move rapidly. Now, you don't want to try and catch up to inflation. You want to try and be ahead of it. We're very cognizant that the economy is heating up quickly, the government's put a lot of money into the economy, and labor market shifted rapidly again to be tight. We are cognizant of those factors, and as I said earlier, our game plan with price really is to expand margins, and we're constantly moving that leverage to get to the right point.

Jason Mead
VP of Finance, Casella Waste Systems

We're doing that on an almost immediate basis from a labor perspective. Each time that we've had to go in and rethink our competitiveness from a wage rate standpoint in each market, we're obviously calculating what that's going to cost and going back and pricing that on an immediate basis.

Sean Eastman
Analyst, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Okay. Got it. That's very helpful. The outlook for 2021 prudently builds in a partial recovery. Can you help at all with just how to think about what sort of the incremental margin on a full recovery would look like, given the operating efficiencies and other moving parts? I just wanted to check back in on that.

Edmond R. Coletta
SVP and CFO, Casella Waste Systems

Yeah. We lost $40 million of revenues last year due to COVID. About half of it was in the collection line of business, half of it was at the landfills. As we're coming back this year, in the model, Jason, more of the 10 coming back is in collection than at the landfill.

Jason Mead
VP of Finance, Casella Waste Systems

Correct.

Edmond R. Coletta
SVP and CFO, Casella Waste Systems

Do you know what that split is? I think it's like 60/40 or maybe even a little more.

Jason Mead
VP of Finance, Casella Waste Systems

Yes.

Edmond R. Coletta
SVP and CFO, Casella Waste Systems

We look at that. I think we're getting all the landfill tons back. As soon as the economy comes back, we have such tightness with sites closing, that's all coming back. On the collection side of the business, maybe some of these customers never come back, certain businesses, certain industries, but they'll be replaced by other things. Our COVID tracking's not perfect in that way, because we're looking at specific customers, specific services, and are they coming back online. I think on the landfill side, that $20 million of revenue, when that comes back in, that's coming back in with greater than 50% incremental margins. It's just a lot of value there. On the hauling side of the business, I would suspect not all of it ever comes back.

What we have seen coming back in, comes back in the 30-plus% incremental, 35% incremental margin type range. On the flip side, you've got to be a little bit cautious, because we're running all-time low on overtime for labor.

The labor markets are so tight that we'll have to bring more labor online. We've also been a little bit cheaper on trucking in certain instances, fuel. There's some things that have been positive in there. I think ourselves and others in the industry, we're all being a little bit cautious because we've never seen a recovery like this. Until we see more water under the bridge, it's hard to fully estimate where that'll shake out. Q1 was a good arbiter with margins up 215 basis points year-over-year.

Jason Mead
VP of Finance, Casella Waste Systems

To Ned's point, if I can just add one thing to that comment. Yeah. The margin's up 215 basis points year-over-year in the first quarter is excellent. As you look out through the rest of the year, as volume comes back in, all to Ned's point, our guidance implies margins are up roughly 20 basis points to 50 basis points over the rest of the year-over-year. Perhaps a little bit muted, but to Ned's point, a little bit of cautiousness there just on our behalf as volumes come back into the system and as levels tick back up.

Sean Eastman
Analyst, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Okay. Again, really helpful. You guys have talked about this sort of $100 million of acquisition revenues kind of in advanced stages. What's the makeup of that in terms of how many companies are in there, the sort of general size? Given the comments on activity heating up on the M&A front and how things are shaping up, do you think it's likely that we see greater than that $20 million-$40 million acquisition revenue target closed in 2021?

John Casella
Chairman and CEO, Casella Waste Systems

Yeah, I think it's fair to say, Sean, that it's likely that we'll be at the high end or above our target from an acquisition standpoint at the $40 million. Yes.

Sean Eastman
Analyst, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Okay. Terrific.

Edmond R. Coletta
SVP and CFO, Casella Waste Systems

The businesses, you'll continue to see us focusing on a lot of smaller companies. Generally, there's a lot of good tuck-in opportunities, a lot of good adjacent markets, and that's where primarily our focus is in the marketplace, and we've done very well.

Sean Eastman
Analyst, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Okay. Terrific. I'll turn it over. Thanks so much.

Jason Mead
VP of Finance, Casella Waste Systems

Thanks, Sean.

Operator

Our next question comes from Alexander Leach with Berenberg Capital Markets. Your line is open.

Alexander Leach
Analyst, Berenberg Capital Markets

Morning.

Jason Mead
VP of Finance, Casella Waste Systems

Morning.

Edwin D. Johnson
President and COO, Casella Waste Systems

Good morning.

Alexander Leach
Analyst, Berenberg Capital Markets

Most of my questions were asked, but just a quick one from me. I know you referred to this in your prepared remarks, but can we get an update on the automation of your fleet? I believe you were around sort of 40%-45% of resi last year, at the end of Q4, and you were planning to make some significant progress on that in Q1. Where are you guys at now, and how much more room is left for improvement there?

Jason Mead
VP of Finance, Casella Waste Systems

A big mover in that automation is on the resi side, and it's in Rochester. We had phase I of a two-phase process happen in the fall of last year, and now we're going to phase II right now. It's in process. The equipment's been delivered, and we're training drivers, and we're implementing a reroute around the new automation there. That's going to drive our automation level over 50%, just on ballpark figures.

Alexander Leach
Analyst, Berenberg Capital Markets

Sure. Okay, you're still around that 40%-45% level, and then it should be pushed over to over 50% over the next few months?

Jason Mead
VP of Finance, Casella Waste Systems

Yeah. It'll bump up probably by Q2, right?

Edwin D. Johnson
President and COO, Casella Waste Systems

We have a whole automation initiative. We're reviewing all of our other operations right now and identifying automation opportunities.

Edmond R. Coletta
SVP and CFO, Casella Waste Systems

The automation opportunities, Ed, are also combined with the new rollout of our routing software, Easy Route.

John Casella
Chairman and CEO, Casella Waste Systems

Right.

Edmond R. Coletta
SVP and CFO, Casella Waste Systems

It's kind of in tandem. We've got a whole new dynamic routing optimization package, and then the team is also looking to automate trucks. We're using that to reroute and gain efficiencies.

Alexander Leach
Analyst, Berenberg Capital Markets

Right. Okay, great. Sorry to go back to the volumes guidance again, but just to make sure I've got this right in my head. The N.Y.C. reopening, is that captured within the top end of the range, or is there upside there?

Edmond R. Coletta
SVP and CFO, Casella Waste Systems

There's definitely upside. We really haven't assumed a large economic rebound from New York City or any other major areas in the model. As we talked about, even at the upside of the range, Jason, we're only coming back in how many million dollars of volume, do you know?

Jason Mead
VP of Finance, Casella Waste Systems

I would have to calculate.

Edmond R. Coletta
SVP and CFO, Casella Waste Systems

You have to calculate that, but it's not a lot more. It's $5 million more or something. It's not all in there.

Alexander Leach
Analyst, Berenberg Capital Markets

Okay, great. Thanks.

John Casella
Chairman and CEO, Casella Waste Systems

You're welcome.

Edmond R. Coletta
SVP and CFO, Casella Waste Systems

Thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from Patrick Tyler Brown with Raymond James.

Patrick Tyler Brown
Analyst, Raymond James

Hey, thanks for the quick follow-up. Question on Hyland. I think last November you got the referendum to expand that from 460,000 to 1 million tons. Number one, I'm just curious how that ramp has gone, if at all. This is a really big picture question, but two, strategically, just how important is that expansion to the entire future of your Western theater?

John Casella
Chairman and CEO, Casella Waste Systems

I think it's very important. We're in permitting now. The process is moving along, very nicely. As you know, Tyler, probably the biggest win obviously is getting through the referendum with the community, which went really well. Hats off to the team that they just did an outstanding job. That facility is going to be very significant, moving from 470,000 to just around 1 million tons a year. It's going to have a significant presence in our New York disposal capacity over the next decade, for sure. No question about it. There's a lot of uncertainty in terms of some of the facilities that are in place, whether they're going to continue or not. That will also impact it. Ned talked about Brookhaven. He talked about the incinerator shutting down in Buffalo.

There's a lot of capacity that's coming out of the New York market. That facility will be a big part of our capacity on a go-forward basis.

Patrick Tyler Brown
Analyst, Raymond James

Okay. The full expansion hasn't been gotten.

John Casella
Chairman and CEO, Casella Waste Systems

No.

Patrick Tyler Brown
Analyst, Raymond James

The permit hasn't been actually released to you.

John Casella
Chairman and CEO, Casella Waste Systems

No, not at all. We don't have any of that benefit in our numbers at this point in time.

Edmond R. Coletta
SVP and CFO, Casella Waste Systems

It's probably several years out, John.

Patrick Tyler Brown
Analyst, Raymond James

Okay. Several years.

John Casella
Chairman and CEO, Casella Waste Systems

At least a year. At least a year out, but maybe two. God only knows.

Patrick Tyler Brown
Analyst, Raymond James

Yeah. Okay.

John Casella
Chairman and CEO, Casella Waste Systems

It's like-

Patrick Tyler Brown
Analyst, Raymond James

I get where you're going with that. Okay, I get that. We'll move on from that. Ned, or Ed or whoever, I may butcher this a little bit, but I'm just curious, how much on average is transportation as a percentage of the landed cost into the landfill, on average, big picture, generally speaking, in the Northeast?

Edmond R. Coletta
SVP and CFO, Casella Waste Systems

Oh, man, it depends.

Patrick Tyler Brown
Analyst, Raymond James

It depends.

Edmond R. Coletta
SVP and CFO, Casella Waste Systems

It depends on where you are.

John Casella
Chairman and CEO, Casella Waste Systems

Yeah, I mean-

Edmond R. Coletta
SVP and CFO, Casella Waste Systems

...at a transfer station, it might be 40%, and depending on what the transportation lane is, or 35% of the tipping fee at that transfer station. It kind of depends, because how far you're going.

John Casella
Chairman and CEO, Casella Waste Systems

Exactly.

Patrick Tyler Brown
Analyst, Raymond James

Yeah. Obviously, but anyway, I was just looking for a broad average.

John Casella
Chairman and CEO, Casella Waste Systems

Obviously, the further away, the higher the percentage, and I think the percentage can get much higher than 40%, depending upon how far you're traveling. In some cases, you could have $60, $65, $70 a ton in just trans.

Patrick Tyler Brown
Analyst, Raymond James

It's obviously a very tight transportation market. I obviously know this way too well. I'm just curious, does that piece, is it really moving? That subcontractor piece, if you will?

Edmond R. Coletta
SVP and CFO, Casella Waste Systems

It doesn't move kind of linearly because everything we do is either contracted or on our own long-haul trucks. We do subcontract quite a bit of that out. You're typically moving under three- to five-year contracts because there's a lot of equipment involved. There aren't any big resets we've had recently that impacted, but it is something we pay attention to.

Patrick Tyler Brown
Analyst, Raymond James

Okay. All right, guys. Thanks for the time.

Edmond R. Coletta
SVP and CFO, Casella Waste Systems

Good. Thanks, Tyler.

John Casella
Chairman and CEO, Casella Waste Systems

Thanks, Tyler.

Operator

There are no further questions. I'd like to turn the call back over to John Casella for any closing remarks.

John Casella
Chairman and CEO, Casella Waste Systems

Thank you, operator, and thanks for joining us this morning. We look forward to discussing our second quarter 2021 earnings with you in late July. Thanks, everybody. Have a great day.