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Earnings Call: Q2 2022

Aug 4, 2022

Operator

Good afternoon, and welcome to Diodes Incorporated second quarter 2022 financial results conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. At the conclusion of today's conference call, instructions will be given for the question and answer session. To ask a question over the phone, you will need to press star followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. To reach an operator at any time, please press star followed by the number zero. As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded today, Thursday, August 4, 2022. I would now like to turn the call over to Leanne Sievers of Shelton Group Investor Relations. Leanne, please go ahead.

Leanne Sievers
President, Shelton Group

Good afternoon, and welcome to Diodes' second quarter 2022 financial results conference call. I'm Leanne Sievers, President of Shelton Group, Diodes investor relations firm. Joining us today are Diodes' Chairman, President, and CEO, Dr. Keh-Shew Lu, Chief Financial Officer, Brett Whitmire, Senior Vice President of Worldwide Sales and Marketing, Emily Yang, Senior Vice President of Business Groups, Gary Yu, and Director of Investor Relations, Gurmeet Dhaliwal. Before I turn the call over to Dr. Lu, I'd like to remind our listeners that the results announced today are preliminary as they are subject to the company's finalizing its closing procedures and customary quarterly review by the company's independent registered public accounting firm. As such, these results are unaudited and subject to revision until the company files its Form 10-Q for its 2022 fiscal quarter ending June 30, 2022.

In addition, management's prepared remarks contain forward-looking statements which are subject to risks and uncertainties, and management may make additional forward-looking statements in response to your questions. Therefore, the company claims the protection of the safe harbor for forward-looking statements that is contained in the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Actual results may differ from those discussed today, and therefore, we refer you to a more detailed discussion of the risks and uncertainties in the company's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, including Forms 10-K and 10-Q. In addition, any projections as to the company's future performance represent management's estimates as of today, August 4, 2022. Diodes assumes no obligation to update these projections in the future as market conditions may or may not change, except to the extent required by applicable law.

Additionally, the company's press release and management statements during this conference call will include discussions of certain measures and financial information in GAAP and non-GAAP terms. Included in the company's press release are definitions and reconciliations of GAAP to non-GAAP items, which provide additional details. Also, throughout the company's press release and management statements during this conference call, we refer to net income attributable to common stockholders as GAAP net income. For those of you unable to listen to the entire call at this time, a recording will be available via webcast for 90 days in the investor relations section of Diodes' website at www.diodes.com. Now, I'll turn the call over to Diodes Chairman, President, and CEO, Dr. Keh-Shew Lu. Dr. Lu, please go ahead.

Keh-Shew Lu
Chairman, President, and CEO, Diodes Incorporated

Thank you, Leanne. Welcome, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. I'm pleased to be reporting today our achievement of the sixth consecutive quarter of record revenue, gross profit, and earnings. This accomplishment is a strong testament to our team's continuous execution, especially considering the COVID-related quarantine in China and Taiwan that constrained production during the quarter. In the Shanghai area and other major cities, we shifted our manufacturing facility to closed-loop operations for two months in the quarter, yet still delivered results above the midpoint of our guidance. Notably, second quarter revenue grew approximately 14% year-over-year, while adjusted earnings per share grew 58% over the same period.

Our execution was also evidenced by our achievement of 41.2% gross margin, which was the fifth consecutive quarter of improvements and the second consecutive quarter above our target model of 40%, largely due to product mix improvements. Contributing to this improvement was our industrial and automotive end markets, reaching a combined total of 41% of revenue for the first time, which exceeded our 2025 business model target of 40%. The automotive market, which represented a record 14% of the revenue in the quarter, remain a key focus area for Diodes as we continue to gain strong traction with both new and existing customers in all regions. Also, during the quarter, we successfully closed our acquisition of ON Semiconductor's South Portland, Maine wafer fab facility, which provides additional variable capacity to support our future growth, especially in the automotive and industrial end markets.

We were pleased to welcome the SP Fab workforce to Diodes family as we continue to maintain operational efficiency and fully integrate this facility into our global manufacturing operation. With our third quarter expectation indicating our tenth consecutive quarter of revenue growth and overall record results, Diodes has solidly positioned itself not only as a reliable supplier and a partner to our customers, but also a consistent performing investment for our shareholders. With that, let me now turn the call over to Brett to discuss our second quarter financial results and our third quarter 2022 guidance in more detail.

Brett Whitmire
CFO, Diodes Incorporated

Thanks, Dr. Lu, and good afternoon, everyone. As part of my financial review today, I will focus my comments on the sequential change for each of the line items and will refer you to our press release for a more detailed review of our results as well as the year-over-year comparisons. Revenue for the second quarter 2022 was a record $501 million, an increase of 3.9% from the $482.1 million in the first quarter of 2022.

Gross profit for the second quarter was also a record at $206.5 million, representing a record 41.2% of revenue, increasing 5% or 40 basis points from $196.7 million or 40.8% of revenue in the first quarter of 2022. GAAP operating expenses for the second quarter of 2022 were $100.3 million or 20% of revenue, and on a non-GAAP basis were $99.7 million or 19.9% of revenue, which excludes $4 million of amortization of acquisition-related intangible asset expenses, $0.2 million of acquisition-related costs, and a $3.6 million gain on insurance recovery.

This compares to non-GAAP operating expenses in the prior quarter of $99.5 million or 20.6% of revenue. Total other expense amounted to approximately $5 million for the quarter, consisting of $7.8 million of unrealized loss on investments, $1.6 million in interest expense, a $1.8 million foreign currency gain, $1.6 million of other income, and $861,000 of interest income. Income before taxes and non-controlling interest in the second quarter 2022 was $101.2 million compared to $90.8 million in the previous quarter. Turning to income taxes, our effective income tax rate for the second quarter was approximately 18.2%.

GAAP net income for the second quarter 2022 was a record $80.2 million or $1.75 per diluted share, compared to GAAP net income of $72.7 million or $1.59 per diluted share in the first quarter of 2022. GAAP earnings per share in the quarter increased 43.4% year-over-year from the $1.22 per diluted share in the second quarter 2021. The share count used to compute GAAP diluted EPS for the second quarter 2022 was 45.8 million shares.

Non-GAAP adjusted net income in the second quarter was a record $86.9 million or $1.90 per diluted share, which excluded net of tax $6.2 million of non-cash mark-to-market adjustment of investments, $3.3 million of acquisition-related intangible asset costs, $0.2 million of acquisition-related costs, and $2.9 million dollar gain on insurance recovery. This represents an 8.6% improvement from last quarter of $1.75 per diluted share or $80.3 million and a 58.3% improvement from $1.20 per diluted share or $54.6 million in the second quarter of 2021.

Excluding share-based compensation expense of $6.6 million for the second quarter, both GAAP earnings per share and non-GAAP adjusted EPS would have increased by $0.14 per diluted share for the second quarter. EBITDA for the second quarter was $130.6 million or 26% of revenue, compared to $118.2 million or 24.5% of revenue in the prior quarter. On a year-over-year basis, EBITDA increased 31.1% from $99.4 million in the second quarter 2021, highlighting our continued improvements over the past year.

I'd like to make the point that if we excluded non-cash gains and losses on securities from our EBITDA calculation for a more accurate assessment of our operating performance, it would have been a record $137.2 million, representing an increase of 10% sequentially and 45% year-over-year. We have included in our earnings release a reconciliation of GAAP net income to non-GAAP adjusted net income and GAAP net income to EBITDA, which provides additional details. Cash flow generated from operations was $85 million for the second quarter of 2022. Free cash flow was $45.5 million, which included $39.6 million for capital expenditures.

Net cash flow was a positive $1.5 million, including capital expenditures, as well as additional borrowings of $35.1 million related to the purchase of the onsemi wafer facility. Turning to the balance sheet. At the end of second quarter, cash equivalents, restricted cash plus short-term investments totaled approximately $316 million. Working capital was $715 million, and total debt, including long-term and short-term, was $265 million. In terms of inventory, at the end of second quarter, total inventory days were approximately 115, as compared to 113 last quarter. Finished goods inventory days were 32, compared to 34 last quarter. Total inventory dollars increased $1.3 million to approximately $371.4 million.

Total inventory in the quarter consisted of a $7 million decrease in finished goods, a $3.1 million decrease in raw materials, and an $11.5 million increase in work in process. Capital expenditures on a cash basis for the second quarter 2022 were $39.6 million or 7.9% of revenue, which is within our target model of 5%-9%. Now turning to our outlook. With our excellent execution and product mix improvements, we are guiding for our 10th consecutive quarter of sequential growth and expect revenue to be approximately $521 million ±3%, and GAAP gross margin to be 41.5% ±1%.

Non-GAAP operating expenses, which are GAAP operating expenses adjusted for amortization of acquisition-related intangible assets, are expected to be approximately 20.5% of revenue ±1%. We expect net interest expense to be approximately $3 million. Our income tax rate is expected to be 18.5% ±3%, and shares used to calculate diluted EPS for the third quarter are anticipated to be approximately 46.2 million. Not included in these non-GAAP estimates is amortization of $3.2 million after tax for previous acquisitions. With that said, I will now turn the call over to Emily Yang.

Emily Yang
SVP of Worldwide Sales and Marketing, Diodes Incorporated

Thank you, Brett, and good afternoon. Second quarter revenue increased 3.9% sequentially and above the midpoint of our guidance, which, as Dr. Lu mentioned, was a notable accomplishment considering the COVID-related lockdown in Taiwan and China that resulted in shutting our manufacturing facilities, closing operations, primarily in Shanghai and major surrounding locations. Looking more closely at second quarter revenue, we have record revenue across all regions. Worldwide POS revenue was down slightly, mainly due to the weakness in Europe. Asia POS was supported by very strong demand and increased sequentially, even despite the COVID-related lockdown in Asia. Distributor inventory in terms of weeks increased slightly quarter-over-quarter, which is still within our defined normal range of 11-14 weeks. Overall demand and backlog remain very strong.

Looking at the global sales in the second quarter, Asia represented 74% of revenue, Europe 14%, and North America 12%. In terms of our end market, industrial represented 27% of Diodes' product revenue, computing 24%, consumer 19%, communication 16%, and automotive 14% of the product revenue. We achieved the record revenue in automotive, industrial, consumer, and communication market. Our Pericom product also set a new revenue record, which is the 7th consecutive quarter. I would also like to point out that our automotive industrial end market combined total 41% of the revenue, which exceeds our 2025 target of 40% of the total revenue. Our record revenue in multiple end markets demonstrated Diodes' strength in our execution.

Despite the reported slowdown in low-end PC and smartphone segments, we have been able to quickly adjust our support to the high demand market segments like automotive and industrial, as well as other areas within the communication market that are seeing growth like 5G, optical and networking. This has been a key advantage for Diodes that has contributed to our consistent quarterly growth. Now let me review the end markets in greater detail. Starting with automotive market, revenue reached a record for the eighth consecutive quarter and totaled 14% of the revenue for the first time. Revenue grew 36% year-over-year, driven by our ongoing demand creation efforts as well as market share gain. Additionally, our expanding dollar content per vehicle continued to fuel our automotive growth.

In connected driving, which consists of ADAS, telematics, and infotainment systems, we continue to expand our content opportunities with new design wins for analog switches, CMOS, LDOs, and DC-DC converters in ADAS, as well as 3.3-volt USB ReDrivers in infotainment, telematics, and smart cockpits. Our PCIe clock buffer oscillator and crystals also providing total timing solutions for infotainment applications. We also win number of designs for SBR Schottky diodes, rectifier, USB switches, and TVS products in the connected driving, LCD displays, door control units, and I/O expanders in telematics applications. For the comfort, style, and safety, we continue to see solid demands for our CMOS, LDOs and switching diodes for the headlights and body control modules. Volume for our LED drivers continue to ramp for indicator lights, while backlight LED drivers, DC-DC buck converters, and diodes were designed into several interior, exterior lighting applications.

In powertrain, which covers conventional hybrid electric vehicles, our power TVS product won multiple designs in applications such as surge protectors for display panel power lines, water pumps, DC/DC fans, motor fans, and voltage regulators and battery management system. We also continue to expand our protection product portfolios with 17 new auto-grade products that won multiple designs at several key OEM accounts. We are also seeing traction for our high-side and low-side products in power protection and mechanical relay replacement. In our industrial market, revenue was also a record and increased 43% year-over-year, representing growth for the fifth consecutive quarter. Our PCI Express 3.0 packet switch continued to gain traction by enabling massive video data transfer and rich PCIe 3 connection flexibility.

Our newly released packet switch can switch multiple serial protocols like PCI Express 5.0 and SAS-4 signals, and are winning new designs in test and measurement equipment. Additionally, our high voltage step-down converters are being designed into applications like IoT and smart lighting, while our current suppressor are gaining momentums in the LED lighting. Our wide VIN LDO product family also continue to see solid demands for power tools and smoke detection systems. We also saw continued growth for our TVS and switching diodes product family for use in HVAC systems, as well as strong demand for power Zener diodes in uninterruptible power supplies for industrial power system applications. Our MOSFET also continued to gain market share in the inverter applications. In the computing market, our USB signal switches and data line protection products are seeing strong traction in storage, enterprise SSDs, and enterprise server applications.

SBR and Schottky products have seen strong demand in Power over Ethernet, server and high-performance computing applications. We are also seeing increasing adoption of USB-C linear redrivers in high-end tablets, and also winning designs for our 20 GB USB-C redrivers and display mux switches in gaming, laptop, and desktop applications. Diodes power switches achieve multiple design wins in USB power source applications in notebook, AIO, and desktop. Our LED drivers were designed into notebook applications for facial recognition, and our ESD Zener diodes also posted solid growth in computing power supply and DC fan applications for desktop and notebook PC. During the quarter, we introduced several new products, including timing generators, buffers, and mux switches that support the PCIe 5.0 protocol and redrivers that support PCIe 5.0, as well as SAS-4 and CXL protocols.

In the communication market, we achieved a quarterly revenue record, which especially noteworthy considering the general slowdown in the smartphones. During the quarter, we're able to gain strong traction across a number of high-growth applications, including 5G, optical, and networking. In particular, we are winning increasing designs for SBR products in 5G modules, Schottky diodes in 5G base station, and PCI Express 3.0 packet switches in 5G CPE. 4G and 5G mobile phone applications are also driving design activities and demand for the 12-volt CSFET battery FET. With the release of our new ultra-low jitter crystal oscillators, Diodes has expanded our portfolio as well as pushed the jitter into the sub-100 femtosecond. Diodes crystal oscillators are designed into optical modules and other networking applications with high-speed interface such as 200 GB, 400 GB, and 800 GB Ethernet.

We are also seeing design-ins for USB-C ReDrivers, CMOS, LDOs, and TVS product in smartphone applications. Lastly, in the consumer market, we also achieve a quarterly record revenue despite the lockdown in Taiwan and China. Our LED drivers are gaining design wins in the smart home applications like floodlights, security cameras, and Wi-Fis. DC-DC converters continue to see solid demands from the consumer and home application market, while our CMOS, LDO, and small-signal MOSFET has a number of wins in wearable devices. Also, during the quarter, we secured design wins for power switches, TVS, Zener diodes, and audio amplifiers for TVs, gaming consoles, headlights, Bluetooth trackers, large displays, smoke alarms, and security system applications, including cameras, motion sensors, and vibration sensors.

Additionally, Diodes AC-DC USB-C power delivery product portfolio and application ecosystem supported the newest EU regulation, which is mandating a common charging port for smartphones and tablets by the fall of 2024 and laptops by 2026. Our complete USB power delivery solutions provides the source and sink fast charging capability for a diverse set of devices. We also saw strong design activities and revenue growth for MOSFET for wireless charging. In summary, with our sixth consecutive quarter of record results, Diodes continues to prove our ability to consistently execute. We are successfully expanding margin 490 basis points over the past year through the product mix improvement with an increasing contribution from our key focus areas in the automotive industrial end market.

Additionally, our global manufacturing footprint, including recent addition of onsemi wafer fab, provides the expanded capacity that we need to contribute to drive our future growth and expansion towards our 2025 target of $2.5 billion in revenue and $1 billion in gross profit. With that, we will now open the floor to questions. Operator?

Operator

At this time, I would like to remind everyone, in order to ask a question, press star then the number one on your telephone keypad. We will pause for just a moment to compile the Q&A roster. Your first question comes from the line of Tristan Gerra with Baird. Your line is now open.

Tristan Gerra
Senior Research Analyst, Baird

Hi, good afternoon. In the context of some of your lead times starting to come down, what percentage of your demand you believe exceed your supply right now, and how does that compare versus the beginning of the year?

Emily Yang
SVP of Worldwide Sales and Marketing, Diodes Incorporated

Hi, Tristan Gerra, this is Emily Yang. I think overall, our demand or backlog is still extremely strong. You know, like, mentioned in my speech, that there's pockets of areas that there's definitely some slowness, like the low-end PCs, or the smartphone, you know, or some of the consumer area. What we've been doing is actually utilize and balancing the demand and focus on the strong demand areas like automotive, industrial. You can actually see from the result that we just shared, just alone for automotive, we actually have 36% year-over-year growth. Industrial is 43%. You know, I would say all in all, right, the demand is still stronger than our supply at this moment.

Tristan Gerra
Senior Research Analyst, Baird

Great. Any way we could quantify your exposure to IGBT, maybe as a % of revenue, and remind us of potentially how you get to silicon carbide technology over time.

Gary Yu
SVP of Business Groups, Diodes Incorporated

Well, hi, this is Gary. Let me try to answer this question for you. Basically, we don't have IGBT. Okay? Yeah, we don't have IGBT, and we are working very hard trying to get a silicon carbide and in place. We do have our design team for silicon carbide, and possibly we're gonna have our silicon carbide product released to the market at end of this year.

Tristan Gerra
Senior Research Analyst, Baird

Great. That's very useful. Thank you.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of William Stein with Truist. Your line is now open.

William Stein
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, Truist Securities

Great. Thank you. Emily, as always, so many great details, but sometimes a little bit hard to make sure we're capturing the big picture. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it sounds like you are seeing downturn in demand in certain parts of consumer computing. What I think you're saying is that you're making up that shortfall in industrial and automotive. Is that correct? And maybe more to the point, are there pockets within those three weaker end markets, the three Cs, as I think you've called them in the past, are there pockets of those that are strong enough to capture or to require the demand for products that were in, you know, other parts of those end markets that, you know, where there's weakness? And is it sustainable?

I think that's the more important thing. Is it something you think is sustainable beyond Q3, or you think we're heading to a phase where perhaps lead times continue to fall and backlog and demand continue to fall in these end markets, and it might have a contagion to other areas?

Emily Yang
SVP of Worldwide Sales and Marketing, Diodes Incorporated

Right. Yes, let me explain a little bit more in detail, right? We specifically talk about three Cs, consumer, communication and computing. If we just refer to the Q2 result, we actually still have a record revenue with the consumer. Within the consumer, we still see certain areas shows a little bit more weakness than the others. Yeah, you're absolutely right. Within the same market, end market, there's still different areas that with strong demand and definitely some softness. What we've been doing in order to achieve the record is actually shifting, you know, our capacities to really support the good focus areas that will continue. Like within the consumer, we've been talking about IoT areas and stuff like that, we're still seeing a lot of strength, right?

With communication, I think, you know, everybody knows that we have slowed down, especially China smartphone area. But within communication, again, we have a record, right? So how do we do that? We're still seeing a lot of strength related to 5G enterprise-related networking, optical area. So again, that's how we achieve the record. So basically utilize the capacity, and that again is actually one advantage for Diodes, is we do have that kind of flexibility, can dynamically adjust the support and focus on the right area, which the area we've been talking about giving us the focus, right? Computing, even within computing, low-end PCs , motherboards, definitely we're seeing softness. But anything related to enterprise cloud computing, server storage, we're still seeing, you know, strength in that area. So, you know, I think it's kind of matching what we've been saying all along.

You know, on top of the automotive industrial focus, you know, this within each of the segment, we actually have specific pocket areas of focus, so we continue that drive towards.

Keh-Shew Lu
Chairman, President, and CEO, Diodes Incorporated

I'd like to talk about one additional strategy we have been talking about, okay? When we design the product, we design it such that they go to multiple end market, okay? For example, if you design a product for display in the PC, that product can be used in automotive. When you're talking about, you know, for cell phone, like a MOSFET, the same product can go to automotive. That's what when Emily talking about we adjust our capacity to support the demand for different end market is by that, okay? If for the cell phone slow down, but we take that capacity, utilize that product to support automotive. You can see our automotive growth is very strong. Similar thing for industrial, you know.

The strategy we're using is we force the designer to design the product for multi-market.

William Stein
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, Truist Securities

Okay. I appreciate that. Thank you. If I can ask one brief follow-up. I'm hoping you can help us understand what's going on with the South Portland fab. I assume, I mean, it seems pretty clear you have to have a manufacturing services agreement in place, and so you probably got some revenue from that in the quarter. Can you help us understand, maybe, help us size that and understand how long that support agreement lasts and maybe timing to run your own products in that fab? Thank you very much.

Keh-Shew Lu
Chairman, President, and CEO, Diodes Incorporated

Well, actually, this is kind of the foundry support for the seller, you know, onsemi is actually good for both sides. It's a win-win strategy. The important is for us to qualify the product into that fab. It takes a while, you know, including develop the process.

William Stein
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, Truist Securities

Mm-hmm.

Keh-Shew Lu
Chairman, President, and CEO, Diodes Incorporated

Qualify the product-

William Stein
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, Truist Securities

Mm-hmm.

Keh-Shew Lu
Chairman, President, and CEO, Diodes Incorporated

Release that product for production. It take one year or even longer.

William Stein
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, Truist Securities

Yeah.

Keh-Shew Lu
Chairman, President, and CEO, Diodes Incorporated

During that time period, we can take that capacity to support the sellers. That way, you know, helping us to reduce the cost. This is a win-win. We believe, you know, we should be able to when they slow down or when they reduce their loading, we can pick up the loading at the same time. You know. If you're talking about how much, we are not announce or disclose the percent of the revenue for our foundry business from there. But it's one thing we know we can tell you is not material. It's very small amount, the number. The key important, if you look at our third quarter guidance, we still show, you know, almost 4% growth.

Record revenue and continue the tenth consecutive quarter of revenue growth. That's all, you know, organic. Majority of the growth will be coming from organic.

Emily Yang
SVP of Worldwide Sales and Marketing, Diodes Incorporated

Yes. Thank you.

Operator

Your next question comes from David Williams with Benchmark. Your line is now open.

David Williams
Senior Equity Research Analyst, Benchmark

Hey, thanks so much. I appreciate you letting me ask the question. Apologize for the background noise here. I wanted to ask real quickly, maybe just on, maybe on the automotive side, how you see that trending over time. Felt like you're making really good progress, and now you have a little better supply into that market. Just kind of curious how you think about that growth trajectory.

Emily Yang
SVP of Worldwide Sales and Marketing, Diodes Incorporated

Well, I think, David, if you just look at our track record, right? We've been consistently growing from 2013, our compounded annual growth rate to 2021 is 30%. With the, you know, Q2 result, it's actually 36% year-over-year growth. With all the demand creation, all the pipelines, and all the engagement that expanding in this area with strategic customers, we're pretty confident that projection of the growth will continue.

David Williams
Senior Equity Research Analyst, Benchmark

Great. Thanks so much. I realize this is a short-term view, but just kind of wondering how you think about the capacity in the near term, and maybe what the impact to margins could potentially be if we saw a more dramatic slowdown in the macro. I realize you guys are navigating this much better, but if we did see a significant pullback in the macro, how do you think about the margin impact to maybe some of this capacity that's coming online? Thank you.

Emily Yang
SVP of Worldwide Sales and Marketing, Diodes Incorporated

Yeah, you know, let me answer that question. If we look back, you know, for the past few quarters, we've been really emphasizing about the product mix improvement, right? That has always been Diodes' focus. You know, we did have some price adjustment, but we talk about our focus is actually taking the opportunity to expand our engagement relationship with the customers, so we have a longer term benefit. With this approach, you know, with the result for the last few quarters, and we continue to go down that path. We're pretty confident that, you know, our margin will continue to improve. Just based on the Q3 guidance, you can actually see, right? We continue to guide a higher 41.5%, you know, as a guidance.

You know, that's, I think the key message is, we believe our direction and vision was correct from the past, and we will continue to drive the margin improvement from the product mix improvement side. Meantime, manufacturing efficiency has always been our focus, and we'll continue to drive that direction as well.

Keh-Shew Lu
Chairman, President, and CEO, Diodes Incorporated

Well, when Emily talking about, you know, product mix, you know, one thing I've been emphasize, when you focus on automotive, they are much higher margin. You know, automotive and industrial, they are higher margin than consumer.

Emily Yang
SVP of Worldwide Sales and Marketing, Diodes Incorporated

Right.

Keh-Shew Lu
Chairman, President, and CEO, Diodes Incorporated

computing and, you know, this communication.

Emily Yang
SVP of Worldwide Sales and Marketing, Diodes Incorporated

Right.

Keh-Shew Lu
Chairman, President, and CEO, Diodes Incorporated

Now, except the high end of the, those three C area, right? When you're talking about then. When we change the product mix, you can see we focus more on automotive and industrial. One evidence to show you, we already get 41% of, you know, our revenue out of automotive and industrial.

Emily Yang
SVP of Worldwide Sales and Marketing, Diodes Incorporated

Mm-hmm.

Keh-Shew Lu
Chairman, President, and CEO, Diodes Incorporated

Because of that, if we continue growth in those segments, you know, then we can continue to improve our margins.

David Williams
Senior Equity Research Analyst, Benchmark

Thanks again.

Operator

Your next question comes from Matthew Ramsay with TD Cowen. Your line is now open.

Matthew Ramsay
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, TD Cowen

Thank you very much for taking my questions. The first question is, I guess, of how things are going with customers. Emily, maybe you can talk about this broadly and if you have any specific examples. We've had a few conversations over the last couple of years about how your company was able to bring on additional supply and have ample supply when many of your competitors did not, when things got really tight, during the pandemic. One of the consequences of that is that Diodes was able to get qualified and break into a number of new customers in a lot of different end markets that maybe you hadn't been able to get into before because you guys had such supply.

I guess what I wanna understand better is in the instances where that did happen, how have the business relationships developed since you broke into those new customers? How are you guys doing in sort of a land and expand design win point of view? If you could kinda characterize how those things are going, that would be great. Thank you.

Emily Yang
SVP of Worldwide Sales and Marketing, Diodes Incorporated

Yes. I think things is going well and continue. We're actually seeing the momentum continues, right? For some of the customers we got opportunity to break into the account, we actually continue to expand our overall dollar content within the same account. Like I mentioned, right, there's still some imbalance of supply and demand. There's still areas that we think, like automotive still shows really strong demand, so we definitely continue to grow the relationship. You know, Diodes, we're not interested to be a gap filler only, so we work with a lot of customer with long-term agreements and commitments and stuff like that. I would say the momentum is still very, very strong.

Matthew Ramsay
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, TD Cowen

Right. Got it. Thank you. As my follow-up, I'm surprised it wasn't asked yet, but, you know, just given some of the changes in the trajectory of end markets for your company, if you guys had any more specific commentary about how we should expect trends in each of the segments to go into the third quarter, just quarter-over-quarter growth rates, that would be really, really helpful. Thank you very much.

Emily Yang
SVP of Worldwide Sales and Marketing, Diodes Incorporated

Okay. Let me answer this question as well. Automotive, I mentioned this already, we're still seeing a lot of strength overall, so we continue to focus and drive. Industrial, again, we're seeing a lot of strength. You know, computing, I think we're seeing more like a stabilized, and we're hoping that, you know, when some of the inventory depleted in the channel, that we can see some of the upside. There's also some of the new chipset launch coming up soon, so that will also drive some of the momentum in this segment. Consumer, I think it varies on the actual application and customer demand. It varies a little, but again, we focus on the IoT major block within the consumer area, so, you know, we continue to focus.

I think communication, smartphone in China region and in Asia have some slowdown, but we're also seeing, you know, one or two other smartphone vendors still showing strong momentum. I think it's a mix and match. You know, like I said, right, because, you know, we do have, the capacity, like Dr. Lu mentioned, we can shift things, very quickly to really focus on the areas that we want to continue to drive and focus. I think that's definitely a very key advantage overall to Diodes approach, right? I think that's pretty much about the five segments that you asked for.

Keh-Shew Lu
Chairman, President, and CEO, Diodes Incorporated

Yeah, the key thing just to remember, when Emily talking about for Diodes, our backlog still very strong.

Emily Yang
SVP of Worldwide Sales and Marketing, Diodes Incorporated

Right.

Keh-Shew Lu
Chairman, President, and CEO, Diodes Incorporated

Our demand still very strong.

Emily Yang
SVP of Worldwide Sales and Marketing, Diodes Incorporated

Mm-hmm.

Keh-Shew Lu
Chairman, President, and CEO, Diodes Incorporated

Yes, we see pockets of the slowdown.

Emily Yang
SVP of Worldwide Sales and Marketing, Diodes Incorporated

Adjustments.

Keh-Shew Lu
Chairman, President, and CEO, Diodes Incorporated

Adjustment.

Emily Yang
SVP of Worldwide Sales and Marketing, Diodes Incorporated

Mm-hmm.

Keh-Shew Lu
Chairman, President, and CEO, Diodes Incorporated

Is the you know, their inventory adjustment?

Emily Yang
SVP of Worldwide Sales and Marketing, Diodes Incorporated

Mm-hmm.

Keh-Shew Lu
Chairman, President, and CEO, Diodes Incorporated

Overall, we still very, very confident, you know, on, you know, our guidance.

Emily Yang
SVP of Worldwide Sales and Marketing, Diodes Incorporated

Mm-hmm.

Keh-Shew Lu
Chairman, President, and CEO, Diodes Incorporated

That's the reason we still guide. We're going to have, you know, 4% growth and this is really, we know, we believe our strength, our market demand still there.

Matthew Ramsay
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, TD Cowen

Thank you both for the answers. I appreciate it. Thank you.

Operator

There are no further questions at this time. Dr. Lu, I turn the call back over to you.

Keh-Shew Lu
Chairman, President, and CEO, Diodes Incorporated

Okay. Thank you for your participation on today's call. You may now disconnect.

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