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Earnings Call: Q1 2016

May 19, 2015

Speaker 1

Good morning, and welcome to the Dick's Sporting Goods First Quarter 2015 Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in listen only mode. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Anne Marie Meguela, Vice President of Treasury Services and Investor Relations.

Please go ahead.

Speaker 2

Thank you. Good morning and thank you for joining us to discuss our Q1 2015 financial results. Please note that a rebroadcast of today's call will be archived on the Investor Relations portion of our website located at dicks.com for approximately 30 days. In addition, as outlined in our press release, the dial in replay will also be available for approximately 30 days. In order for us to take advantage of the Safe Harbor rules, I would like to remind you that today's discussion includes some forward looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995, which include, but are not limited to, our views and expectations concerning our future results.

Such statements relate to future events and expectations and involve known and unknown risks and uncertainties. Our actual results or actions may differ materially from those projected in the forward looking statements. For a summary of the risk factors that could cause results to differ materially from those expressed in the forward looking statements, please refer to our periodic reports filed with the SEC, including the company's annual report on Form 10 ks for the year ended January 31, 2015. We disclaim any obligation and do not intend to update these statements except as required by the securities law. We have also included some non GAAP financial measures in our discussion today.

Our presentation of the most directly comparable financial measures calculated in accordance with generally accepted accounting principles and related reconciliations can be found on the Investor Relations portion of our website at dicks.com. Leading our call today will be Ed Stack, our Chairman and Chief Executive Officer. Ed will review our Q1 results, key business drivers and outlook. After Ed's comments, Andre Howe will provide greater detail regarding our results, capital allocation and guidance for the Q2 and full year 2015. I will now turn the call over to Ed Staff.

Speaker 3

Thank you, Anne Marie, and thanks to all of you for joining us today. As we announced this morning, we generated 1st quarter earnings per diluted share of $0.53 achieving the high end of our guidance of $0.49 to $0.53 1st quarter consolidated same store sales of 1% was within our guided range of between flat to 2% and on top of a 1.5% comp in the Q1 of 2014. As expected, our Q1 results reflect a slower start to the spring selling season as we highlighted in our year end earnings call. Since February, the sales trend has notably improved. DICK'S omnichannel comp sales increased 1.8% in the quarter, with growth across the hardlines, apparel and footwear categories and supported by an increase in both traffic and ticket.

We're pleased with this performance and are encouraged by the improving trends in our golf business. While Golf Galaxy comps were down 11% and in line with the Dick's Golf business, both showed significant sequential comp improvement during the quarter as the weather improved, especially in the Northeast. We're seeing the golf recovery continue into the Q2 and expect margin improvement year over year in the Q2. We're also pleased with our women's athletic apparel. A significant amount of research has gone into our women's strategy, which encompasses our product content, merchandise presentation, shopping experience and marketing.

During the quarter, we augmented our women's fitness apparel selection by launching CALIA by Carrie Underwood. This is a higher margin exclusive private brand offering that serves the athletic female. CALIA is off to a great start and we believe it will become our number 3 women's athletic apparel brand by the end of 2016. On the marketing front, we recently launched our first campaign targeted directly to women. It speaks to all the pressures women are under today, the sacrifices they make for their families and work and how difficult it is to find those few precious moments for themselves.

And finally, in new stores that we'll be opening up this year, we're redeveloping the shopping environment for the athletic female, including updated dressing rooms and improved merchandising presentation, which effectively pulls the entire women's concept together. Our focus on e commerce continues to pay off with e commerce penetration growing to 8.5% of sales in the Q1 of this year compared to 7% in the Q1 of 2014. We have significantly outpaced the market and have picked up market share in the online space. We moved up to number 70 on the Internet retailer top 500 list and in 2014 and we grew at nearly twice the pace of the industry. Additionally, we continue to make progress toward our goal of moving our Dick's Sporting Goods e commerce site onto our own exclusive platform by January 2017.

This quarter, we completed a key step by successfully relaunching golfgalaxy.com and later this year we plan to launch a Field and Stream transactional site. By having 2 sites on our own platform, we will be able to operate and learn from the multi tenancy dynamics prior to relaunching dicks.com on the same platform. Finally, we're also excited about our 1st combo store that is set to open in July in Mobile, Alabama. This combined store will place the Dick's and Field and Stream right next to each other with the interior walls opened up in the middle of the store so customers can cross shop between chains. As we move forward with this format, the hunt fish and camp product will all be in Field and Stream leaving more room in the Dick's stores for higher margin, faster turning categories such as our women's, youth and team sports businesses.

We believe this will be a very compelling shopping experience and plan to have 4 of these combo stores in place by the end of 2015. Our balance sheet remains strong and both the level and quality of our inventory is well positioned. Mixed sales growth outpaced inventory growth exiting the Q1 with the incremental inventory on our balance sheet supporting the growth of our field and stream concept. We also continue to return capital to shareholders through our quarterly dividends and share repurchases, completing $150,000,000 in share repurchases in the Q1. As a result of our performance in the Q1 and our expectations for the remainder of the year, we are raising the low end of our full year guidance to $3.12 to $3.20 per diluted share and maintaining our 2015 guidance on a full year comp sales growth of 1% to 3%.

This guidance contemplates $150,000,000 of share repurchases executed in the Q1. Before concluding, I'd like to thank our associates for their many contributions to our progress as there is a driving force behind our success. All of us are grateful to them for their exceptional loyalty and commitment. I'd now like to turn the call over to Andre. Thank you, Ed, and good morning, everyone.

This morning, I will cover our Q1 results, our balance sheet and capital allocation and our performance expectations for the remainder of 2015. To begin with, our Q1 financial results, total sales increased 8.8 percent to approximately $1,600,000,000 Consolidated omni channel same store sales increased 1% compared to our guidance of flat to 2% same store sales growth and compared to comps of 1.5% in the Q1 of last year. Big sporting goods omni channel same store sales increased 1.8% driven by a 1% increase in sales per transaction and an increase in traffic of 0.8%. In the Q1 of 2015, we continued to grow our omnichannel platform. We opened 9 new Dick's stores, one new Field and Stream store and we generated 95.4 percent new store productivity.

And as Ed mentioned, we grew our e commerce business to 8.5% of sales compared to 7% in the Q1 of 2014. This translates into approximately 32% growth for our e comm business. We also relocated 1 Dick's store and 1 Golf Galaxy store during the quarter. Gross profit for the Q1 was $469,000,000 or 29.96 percent of sales and was down 68 basis points from Q1 of 2014, driven by lower merchandise margin, occupancy deleverage and an increase in shipping expenses as a percentage of total sales due to our continued growth in e commerce. As you will recall from our last earnings call, we anticipated a lower merchandise margin in the Q1 as a result of planned promotional activity earlier in the season.

SG and A expenses in the Q1 were $361,000,000 or 23.05 percent of sales and on a non GAAP basis leverage 38 basis points from the Q1 of last year. This was primarily due to lower administrative expenses as a percentage of sales. Now looking to our balance sheet, we ended the Q1 of 2015 with approximately $81,000,000 of cash and cash equivalents and approximately $51,000,000 in borrowings outstanding on our $500,000,000 revolving credit facility reflective of our share repurchase activity and capital expenditures during the quarter. 1st quarter 2015 net capital expenditures were $25,000,000 or $66,000,000 on a gross basis. Total inventory increased 9.7% for the end of the Q1 of 2015 compared to the end of the Q1 of 2014.

As Ed mentioned in the quarter, our inventory for the DICK'S business grew at a slower pace than sales and the balance of the inventory growth is to support our field and stream expansion. Turning now to our capital allocation strategy. In the Q1, we paid $17,400,000 in dividends and completed share repurchases of $150,000,000 Since we started our $1,000,000,000 authorization at the beginning of 2013, we have repurchased approximately over $605,000,000 of common stock and have approximately $395,000,000 remaining under the authorization. We believe that investing in our business, share repurchases and dividends all remain key elements of our capital allocation strategy. Turning to our outlook for the remainder of fiscal 2015, we are raising the low end of our full year earnings guidance and now expect full year earnings per diluted share of $3.12 to $3.20 We expect same store sales increase to increase 1% to 3% consistent with our prior guidance.

Gross margin is expected to increase primarily driven by merchandise margin expansion. SG and A is expected to deleverage as we invest in building our brand coupled with the expenses related to bringing e commerce onto our own platform. Year over year pre opening expenses are expected to remain relatively flat as a percentage of sales. As a result of these dynamics, we expect operating margins to increase slightly year over year. Net capital expenditures for the full year 2015 are expected to be approximately $245,000,000 or about $365,000,000 on a gross basis.

In 2015, we expect to open approximately 45 new Dick's stores, relocate 7 new Dick's stores 7 Dick's stores and relocate 1 Golf Galaxy store. We also remain focused on scaling our Field and Stream concept and expect to open 9 new Field and Stream stores this year. For the Q2 of 2015, we anticipate earnings per diluted share of $0.73 to $0.76 Consolidated omni channel same store sales are expected to be approximately flat to up 2% compared to a 3.2% increase in our comps in the Q2 of 2014. Non GAAP operating margin is expected to remain relatively flat due to an expansion in gross margin offset by SG and A expense deleverage, primarily due to our investments we are making in e commerce. Our guidance for the Q2 contemplates meaningful World Cup sales comparisons as well as higher levels of golf clearance in the same period last year.

We also expect to open 7 new Dick's stores and 1 new Field and Stream store in the Q2. In summary, we continue to successfully grow our business, make the right investments and deliver shareholder value. We are focused on driving store productivity, adding stores in new and under penetrated markets, expanding and in sourcing our e commerce business and further developing our field and stream specialty concept. This will conclude our prepared remarks. Thank you for your interest in Dick's Sporting Goods.

Operator, please open the line for questions.

Speaker 1

Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. And our first question will come from Christopher Hovers of JPMorgan. Please go ahead.

Speaker 4

Thanks and good morning everybody. So I wanted to follow-up on your comment, Ed. You said that stick sales growth exceeded inventory growth at the end of the quarter. So inventory growth was at 9.7%. So are you suggesting that you're comping 2% to 3% at this point in May?

And then could you reflect that back against the guidance of 0% to 2% to that suggest that you're just the compares get

Speaker 3

a lot tougher as the quarter progresses? That was coming out of the that was the number we talked about that the sales grew faster than the inventory is at the end of the Q1. Our inventory in the Dick's store was lower than what the sales had gone up in a total basis and that the differential was really to support the Field and Stream stores.

Speaker 4

I got you. So that was in the end of the quarter?

Speaker 3

Yes, that was at the end of the as we exited the quarter.

Speaker 4

Okay, understood. And then can you talk about how you think about the golf business, the growth in the golf business longer term? How you're thinking about what sort of the sustainable growth rate is in the store and does how does that compare about how you think about what the sort of sustainable comp rate is in Golf Galaxy long term?

Speaker 3

Well, I think the golf business, as we said, it gets sequentially better in the quarter and we hesitate to talk about what's going on in a particular quarter. But based on the golf business and the golf galaxy business is such a small part of our total business. I do think it gets kind of more airtime than it needs. It's a little more than 3% of our total business on an annual basis. But as we take a look at our golf business in total for this quarter, I'm not saying that this is how it's going to play out because we got very promotional toward the middle of the quarter around Father's Day.

But our golf business right now is significantly better, relatively been down a little bit, but close to being flat. Margin rates are up 100 basis points this quarter so far and that's on a much lower cost structure on how we restructured the golf business last year. So I think the golf business is going to continue to be difficult. I don't think there's a lot of growth in it, although there's some good things happening in the business today. And a lot of it's coming from the PGA Tour.

Some of these young guys that are out there playing, I think are going to be very helpful to the game. We'll have to wait and see longer term how it plays out, but some of the things happening out on tour are really very good for the game.

Speaker 4

Understood. And then one last question for Andres. Merchandise margins were down pretty significantly in the Q2. I know you expect them to be up. Any sort of directional commentary of how much we can recapture from last year?

Thanks very much.

Speaker 3

Yes, certainly, Chris. We're not going to get into that level of granularity for what our merchandise margins are going to increase in the Q2, but we do have that baked into our guidance and they will expand in the Q2 of 2015 versus 2014, largely driven by the comments that you made about being promotional last year. Understood. Thanks.

Speaker 1

The next question will come from Seth Sigman of Credit Suisse. Please go ahead.

Speaker 4

Thanks. Good morning, guys. Two questions on the outdoor category. I guess first, are we deep enough now into the Field and Stream initiative to get a sense of how those stores are going to comp after that 1st year of opening?

Speaker 3

And then the second piece of that

Speaker 4

is just in general, just wondering how the hunting business has performed within the core business? Has it stabilized? Is it returning to growth? What's the outlook for that category?

Speaker 3

Yes. So I think it's still too early to talk about Field and Streams comp. We've only got 2 stores that have been opened for a year. Those two stores we're trying to determine what the right penetration in the market is. So they're significantly cannibalized.

We've got the one store that we opened up in Pittsburgh gotten cannibalized by 2 other stores, one about 30 miles south of Pittsburgh and another one about 60 miles to the east. And these stores have a broad draw range, if you will. So it's still early to say. We're really excited continue to be excited about what we can do with Field and Stream. And in particular, we're excited about these combo stores that we're doing this year where we will have a Dixon Field and Stream right next to each other and an entryway about halfway through the store punched in, a pretty big entryway about 30 some feet, the customers will be able to cross shop.

We've got one store we've got one of these concepts open today in Columbus, Ohio where there's a Dick's store right next to a Field and Stream store. There's also a Golf Galaxy store there. But right now today you can't shop between the two chains. And if you take a look at the volume that we're getting out of that Dick's and Field and Stream store and combine these, we think this is going to be a really pretty compelling shopping experience. We'll have 4 of these opened up by the end of this year, of which one includes the one in Eastern Ohio that we're going to punch a hole between the Dick's store and the Field and Stream store to allow customers to shop between those two stores, which they can't do today.

Speaker 4

Okay. And the second piece of that was just how the hunting business is performing within the core Dick's stores and whether it's stabilized. It's been a troubled category over the last year. Has it returned to growth? And what's your expectations?

Speaker 3

It's gotten much better. It's not growing by leaps and bounds yet. I think there's still a bit of a hangover from all of the product that was bought when it ran up so significantly. But we're really it stabilized and we're very happy with that business right now. We think it will start to grow again be relatively flat through the rest of this year and probably start to grow next year.

Speaker 4

Okay. Thank you. And just one final one. When you think about store like trends outside of golf and hunting, can you talk about maybe some of the performance apparel categories, footwear categories that have outperformed over the last year or so? How are those performing today relative to the 1.8% comp reported for the Dick's stores?

Speaker 3

They're performing better than those than the 1.8%. If you take a look at the athletic apparel business, the footwear business, the team sport business, we're pretty pleased with what's going on in those other areas.

Speaker 4

Okay. Thank you.

Speaker 1

The next question will come from Simeon Gutman of Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.

Speaker 5

Thanks. Good morning. It's sort of a follow-up to the prior two questions, Ed. So there's a school thought that if golf and outdoor collectively are less of a drag for in the second quarter, if not a zero drag. And I think you implied that for golf and somewhat in outdoor.

And that you have footwear and apparel that are still growing healthily. I don't want to put words in your mouth, but somewhere in the mid single digits. We could have seen comps a little bit higher than what you're guiding to in the Q2. And granted, you mentioned the World Cup compare, maybe that was underappreciated. But can you comment if any part of that framework is off whether I mean, the Golf and Outdoor, you've kind of suggested.

So footwear and apparel, if they're growing in that range, does that mean the World Cup compare is a couple of 100 basis points? I mean, why couldn't we see growth better than that 0% to 2%?

Speaker 3

Well, the so we're starting to see that stabilization in golf. As I said, I'm not sure that it's going to we're not convinced that it's going to continue as we got very promotional in the golf business last year in and around Father's Day to try to drive that inventory out of the system, which was pretty successful. We got rid of a lot of inventory. So we're going to be under some pressure there. And I think the World Cup was probably underappreciated.

It was a very meaningful part of our comp business and the World Cup doesn't happen this year. So you're not far off from your thoughts on how that impacted our comps.

Speaker 5

Okay. And then my second question related to, I guess, the profit dynamics between retail and e commerce. So the e commerce business was strong as usual. And we've seen with a lot of other companies, they tend to struggle to maintain their margins or even grow with that type of growth, because it implies what they're doing in the store is not as great and the cost structure doesn't seem to flex as well. So I'm just curious, I mean, you have shipped from store and I think that's helping mitigate some of that.

Your SG and A per foot has been managed well. Are there other things that you're proactively doing to ensure that margins continue to grow even if the physical store comp is under pressure and as e commerce continues to grow fast?

Speaker 3

Yes. So on the e commerce side to be able to move to our own platform and not have the GSI platform and the fees associated with GSI will be a significant improvement to the to our e commerce business. And that's part of the significant investments we're making from an e commerce standpoint 2 years ago last year or this year and we will move this the Dick's Sporting Goods site to this new platform in 2017. We were really enthusiastic that the relaunch of the Golf Galaxy site is up and successful and we're pleased with how that's going. We'll have field and stream up later this year and we'll run the bugs out of this system before we turn on the DICK site.

Speaker 4

Okay. Thanks.

Speaker 1

The next question will come from Camilo Lyon of Canaccord Genuity. Please go ahead.

Speaker 4

Thanks. Good morning. Ed, you mentioned regarding the DICK'S inventory being below sales. Is that a function of being light in any particular category as a result of some of the inventory shipment delays from the West Coast ports or was that just better inventory management that you saw there?

Speaker 3

It was really a bit of both. So there were some shipments that were delayed. We got almost caught up at the end of the Q1, but there were still some shipments that were delayed. So there's a bit of that, but the vast majority of that has come through much better inventory controls that we implemented this year versus last year.

Speaker 4

Would you be able to share what categories you felt you were underexposed?

Speaker 3

When you say underexposed?

Speaker 4

Underrepresented from the

Speaker 3

shipments? There were some shipments that got caught up from a team sports standpoint, baseball, some footwear, apparel. It was primarily in those categories.

Speaker 4

Okay. And then just on Thylia, I thought it was interesting that you mentioned that you thought that this would be the 3rd biggest brand by the end of the year in women's. Can you just share a little bit as to why you believe that that will be the 3rd brand? Is it because of the value proposition? Is it the number of SKUs that you have in the line?

What's going to take a consumer to shop that brand versus some of the other brands that you have in the store?

Speaker 3

Yes. Well, we indicated that it would be number 2 by the end of 2016. No, I mean number 3 by the end of 2016. And where that's going to come from is just the performance that we see today. So the team has done a wonderful job with this brand.

Carrie Underwood has been a terrific partner in promoting this brand. And the sales trend that we see that we are on in this category, we're pretty confident it will be number 3 by the end of 2016.

Speaker 4

Is that coming at the expense of the lesser tier brands that you have in the store or some of the more premium brands?

Speaker 3

It's coming from a it's coming across the board. It's this is a bit more of a premium brand product. It's different in the marketplace. Women are looking for something different and we've provided that with CALIA by Carrie Underwood and it's coming from a number of different places.

Speaker 4

Okay. And just my last question, just to clarify on the golf comment. I think there was an overall expectation that profitability would be much better given that you've done a fair amount of work of managing the inventories last year. But it sounds like there was an acceleration in the business from a demand perspective. I just wanted to drill down into that a little bit more.

Is that a function of interest in the category would you say or new products coming to market or just easier comparisons?

Speaker 3

I think it's easier comparisons. I think there's some really good things going on in golf right now. Like I said with the match play was pretty exciting as was the players Championship that they had, Rory McElroy winning this past weekend. I think there's some really good things happening in golf driven by the tour right now. I think that there's been some pent up demand and it's way too early to tell.

We're just we normally don't give any look into a quarter, but we think that this idea of what's going on with Gulf is so seems to be so important to the shareholder base that we thought we'd give you a little peek into what's happening right now. I don't know that it's going to continue. It's still early on, but we've been pleased in the month of April and then into May so far. Okay.

Speaker 4

And then just following up on that, the last thing on the margin rate comment you made of golf margin rates being up 100 basis points thus far. That would I would assume that, that margin rate would improve, would accelerate given the incremental discounting that happened later in the quarter last year. Is that fair assumption? So at 100 basis points will be something above that for the category if it stays on this path?

Speaker 3

No, we're not going to get to that level of granularity and guide to what our golf margins will be, but we're at roughly 100 basis points right now and we do think that they will be better than they were last year because of less promotional activity this year versus last year.

Speaker 4

Got it. Thanks a lot and good luck for

Speaker 3

the rest of the quarter.

Speaker 5

Thank

Speaker 3

you. Thank you.

Speaker 1

The next question will come from Brian Nagel of Oppenheimer. Please go ahead.

Speaker 6

Hi, good morning.

Speaker 3

Good morning, Brian. I was hoping to dig maybe

Speaker 6

a little bit deeper into the weather impact. I mean clearly you're not by no means you're the only company talking about some of the weather disruptions here in the fiscal Q1. But so maybe a couple of questions there. Can we get some color around the performance of stores or regions that were not weather impacted? And or maybe just could you is there a way to estimate what comps in the quarter would have been had the weather been, I

Speaker 7

don't know if this is even

Speaker 6

the right word anymore, but normal for the period?

Speaker 3

And nobody knows what normal is from that standpoint anymore. To kind of come out and say what they would have been if the weather had been normal, it's tough to describe normal. So I don't really know how we would do that. But where the stores and we're very much we still have a big concentration in the Northeast, in the upper Midwest and that's where the weather was as we all know really the worst. So it was difficult.

Those were the areas that were impacted the most. And with that being said, we were still pretty happy that we were able to generate a 1.8% consolidated comp and come into the high end of our guidance at $0.53 under some pretty difficult conditions. Now that being said, we've got to continue to go and try to make some of that up in the Q2, but we're trying to be we're trying to give a realistic to conservative estimate of where we're going here.

Speaker 6

Okay. That's fair. So we have the comp. So I guess let me ask you this then. Is the comp guidance you laid out for the fiscal Q2 indicative of where the business is trending right now?

Speaker 3

We're not going to get to that. I thought we kind of got out of the box a little bit and gave you a little peek into golf for the Q2. We're not going to get too granular into how we're going in the Q2. But right now, we're very pleased with what's happening in the Q2. Okay.

Fair enough. I know that doesn't answer your question, Brian.

Speaker 6

No, it doesn't. I mean, I understand where you're coming from, but that's fine. And then secondly, shifting gears a bit, Andre, you talked about merchandise margins and the promotional cadence. And then someone asked a question before about margins. I guess the question I have is, as we look at margins going through the balance of this year and recognizing there's maybe a bit of a choppy comparison in the Q2 given the outsized promotions last year, how should we think overall about your stance towards promotional cadence as we think about the competitive landscape?

Speaker 3

As we commented both in our Q4 earnings release, Brian, and also in the Q1 here, we said we planned for ourselves we plan to be much more promotional in Q1. We saw some opportunities to move inventory, as I mentioned. And we did say that on a full year basis, we can we'll see our margins expand and you can expect to see that happening in Q2. And our sense is that you'll see that happening in Q3 and Q4 as well. So margin expansions in the balance of the year on a full year basis, we will make up what we gave back in Q1.

That's pretty much what we talked about when

Speaker 4

we laid out our guidance.

Speaker 6

Got it.

Speaker 3

Okay. Thank you. Sure.

Speaker 1

Our next question will come from Robbie Ohmes of Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Please go ahead.

Speaker 4

Hi, good morning. This is Rafe Chattercy on for Ravi. Thanks for taking our questions. Can you guys just remind us which categories there is promotional activity in 1Q? And then sort of what's the outlook for those categories for us the year?

And then yes, that's the first question.

Speaker 3

The promotional categories are in Q1, we wanted to clean up the balance of our winter merchandise, the cold weather merchandise. We wanted to continue to clean up some of the issues in Gulf. So kind of the areas that you had anticipated. And going forward, it will be in Q2, it will be primarily just natural the natural promotion. We don't see anything we actually see in Q2 being less promotional this year than we were last year.

Speaker 4

Okay. Can you give some color around sort of trends in golf ASPs versus units? And then how you think about last year, very promotional in the Q2. Did you see a traffic lift from all of the promotions you had in golf? And then how you think about lapping that?

Speaker 3

Well, the AURs are up as we indicated what we thought they would be based on the promotional environment last year. So AURs are up. And last year, we the units this year versus last year, we're not going to guide to that level of granularity, but we think the AURs will be up and the margin rates will be up.

Speaker 4

And then last question, just within footwear, can you talk about trends by category? And then are you seeing your allocations improve at all?

Speaker 3

We never talk about trends by category specifically, but the I mean from a give you specific numbers, but the basketball business continues to be very good. We expect the cleat business to continue to be good and our allocations have improved, yes.

Speaker 4

All right. Great. Thank you. Sure.

Speaker 1

Our next question will come from Paul Swinand of Morningstar. Please go ahead.

Speaker 5

Good morning and usually thank you for all the patience with the questions, but I'm going to ask another golf one.

Speaker 3

See, what a surprise.

Speaker 5

Everybody is trying to guess what the golf impact on the second quarter is, but I'm trying to I get a lot of questions on the longer term. And the question is really, is there any analysis you've done by customer segment or product category? I know you mentioned some of the new players. But what can we say or what analysis have you done on the longer term? Is there a reason to think that this will be a strong category for you?

I know in your prepared remarks, you said it was only 3% of the business, but it's still big traffic driver in Dick's regular stores and e comm as well. I think it's a big opportunity. So again, comments on the longer term and how you think the golf business will develop and still be strong?

Speaker 3

So I indicated that the Golf Galaxy business is a little more than 3% of the the business on a total standpoint. We think that longer term golf is going to be an okay business. We think that there's other areas that are going to grow at a faster rate than golf. But we think golf is an important part of our business and we're going to stay in the golf business. We see certain categories of golf accelerating.

The golf apparel business is really is where I think a fair amount of growth will come from. I think the golf equipment business will be stabilized and it will kind of move up or down a little bit 1 year to the next. But we think that longer term, there will be a good solid profitable business for us.

Speaker 5

Any comments by region or maybe by younger players or?

Speaker 3

No, not really. I mean, the areas of the country, once you can once all the areas of the country are up and playing, there's not a huge difference.

Speaker 4

Got it.

Speaker 5

And then I wanted to ask a little bit of a similar question on soccer. And I know usually in the past you've said Olympics or some of these events are not really a big mover. And I remember last year you did say the World Cup was bigger than you expected. Is soccer going to grow as a percentage of the business? And do you think that that's going to be a place where maybe customers shop at Dick's and there aren't as many competitive alternatives because you're such a big team sports player?

Speaker 3

Yes. We think soccer is going to continue to grow. We had indicated that the Olympics are usually not a big driver of sales. The World Cup always has been. And this past year, the team did a great job with the World Cup and it exceeded our expectations.

We think soccer is going to continue to grow pretty significantly And we think that we're positioned in a great place to take a big part of that growth in soccer that's coming. So just to be clear here,

Speaker 5

you think it's outpacing the rest of the team sports business?

Speaker 3

In general, overall, probably on the long term. This year will be a little bit more difficult because of the World Cup. But if you take it on balance throughout the next couple of years, yes, I think it will outpace the majority of the team sports businesses.

Speaker 5

Interesting. Thanks a lot and best of luck.

Speaker 3

Sure. Thanks.

Speaker 1

Our next question will come from Stephen Tanal of Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.

Speaker 4

Good morning, guys. Thanks a lot for the question. I sort of have to do it, but I'm really curious if weather affected the golf business specifically or if you would say that was a factor in the results for Galaxy and for Dick's core golf?

Speaker 3

Well, we try not to hide too much behind the weather. But as I said, we're really we're still a high concentration an important concentration of our businesses in the Northeast and the upper Midwest. There's a fair amount of Golf Galaxy stores up there. And yes, 7.5 feet of snow sitting up in New England, it impacted the golf business. The courses were late opening up and it had an impact.

And that might be one reason why some of the golf business is doing better than it is right now than it had been because of the pent up demand early on.

Speaker 4

Sure. That seems to make sense. In terms of Field and Stream, you referenced cannibalization and clearly some of the stores have opened near one another. I'm sort of curious if you could fill us in, in terms of how you're thinking about the regional growth strategy for that business and how you're planning really where you're going to open the stores, like what enters the thought process and is there any focus regionally, if you will?

Speaker 3

Well, we take a look as you would expect, we take a look at where the hunters are and where the fishermen are. We take a look at a number of demographics, hunting licenses sold, hunting participation, same with fishing. We've got a lot of Dick's stores. We know where the better hunt fish categories are. So that's how we're taking a look at this.

The majority of them will be in the eastern part of the United States to begin with and then eastern and a bit more in kind of Carolinas and North. And as I said, we're really excited about these combo stores where we can put a Dick's in Field and Stream right next to each other and reformat the Dick's store to have some of the higher margin, higher turning items expanded in there that we would like to be able to do and have all the hunt fish camp product in Field and Stream still allow people to cross shop. Think it's going to be a pretty compelling experience. We've some of the customers that we have talked with and the research that we've done on this, they love the idea and we'll get a sense in the next few months on how this combo store does.

Speaker 4

Okay, understood. And lastly, for Andre, in terms of the gross margin drivers, are you able to quantify that for us in the quarter? Merch margin would be helpful specifically.

Speaker 3

Yes. Merch in Q1, I'll give you the merch margin piece and I won't go into elaborate details on all the other elements. I did mention that we deleveraged occupancy and also the increase in our e commerce sales drove some of those fees there, shipping expense. But the merch margin was down 56 basis points.

Speaker 4

Okay. All right. Thanks a lot, guys.

Speaker 1

And our next question will come from Eric Tracy of Janney Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Speaker 4

Thanks. Good morning. Actually, Andre, real quick, if I could follow-up on that gross margin, specifically to the occupancy deleverage and the expenses going towards the ecom in housing. How should we just think about that sort of order of magnitude going forward and the timing of when potentially could inflect on that? And then sort of what is the omnichannel comp sort of needed to ultimately leverage that?

Speaker 3

So let me take a step back. There were a couple of elements in that question. One is if you take a look at when we think about what does the total sales need to be to leverage occupancy, we talk to our investors about that number being approximately on a full year basis right around that 10% range. So that's kind of what we look for in terms of total sales to leverage occupancy. In terms of the e commerce discussion, we've really kind of never had that specific discussion other than to say that the goals we have and the profitability of that business is significantly better for us as we in source the business.

So we talked about the investments we were making at our analyst meeting this year, which is about $8,500,000 in that in sourcing project. So those are the details that we've laid out to our investors.

Speaker 4

Okay. And then Ed, a little bit bigger picture strategically, obviously, e comm doing extremely well in terms of building out. Could you speak to how you feel like you're working with the brands to differentiate the products sort of cross channel? Are there some exclusives that you're getting? Ultimately, this question kind of speaks to potential of cannibalization of the brick and mortar.

And it certainly seems like very comfortable with continuing to grow the door base, but any comments on what the ultimate mix of e comm should be relative to brick and mortar?

Speaker 3

Well, I think everybody is still trying to figure out what that appropriate mix is. Our e commerce business continues to grow at a pretty rapid rate. We've talked about that we're opening stores in markets where we have little penetration or no penetration. We've talked about before in San Francisco, we've got roughly 2 stores in the Bay Area. There's a lot of places in San Francisco, in Houston and some other places that customers can't shop at Dick's Sporting Goods store because we don't have one.

So those are the places that we're going to open up Dick's stores. From an e com standpoint, we continue to work very closely with our vendors that are trying to help us also drive our e commerce business, whether that's from broadening the assortment online and shipping directly to the consumer on a direct ship basis from the vendor or working with us on some short run opportunities, short run closeouts, short run promotions that there's not enough product to fill all of the Dick's stores, but we can put it online and be out of it in 3, 4 days a week or so. So we continue to work with the brands. We continue to invest heavily from an e commerce standpoint and it continues to pay off. As you can see, our sales went up to 8.5% in the Q1.

And last year, we our e commerce business grew at double the rate of the industry. And we've got a relatively in our category, we've got a pretty robust e commerce business. And I just would add to what Ed mentioned is, I think one of the metrics we've asked our investors to hold us to, so we have very high standards for opening up new brick and mortar and our that 95.4% was pretty indicative of the fact that we are holding ourselves to a high standard when we open up new stores, new brick and mortar because of the e commerce items that we see in the marketplace.

Speaker 4

Fair enough. And if I could just switch gears lastly, back to the women's business, Kalia clearly believing that there's a lot of momentum behind that. Does that in any way also speak to you've got kind of a year plus of building out the shop in shops going after the women's category with some of the more premium brands. Is that in any way a statement on feeling like the product that these brands have in the marketplace maybe isn't resonating with women? Or is there something else on the marketing side that needs to take place?

Just a little bit more color as to what your what the learnings are on that front.

Speaker 3

No. I wouldn't take that to think that with the brands. I think the brands have brought terrific product to the marketplace. The brands are doing extremely well. I think this is just additive that something new in the marketplace and this marketplace continues to grow.

So I would not read anything into the brand's performance. Our performance with the brands has been terrific in this category. And we expect it to continue that way.

Speaker 4

Great. Thank you all.

Speaker 1

Our next question will come from Sam Poser of Stern AG CRT. Please go ahead.

Speaker 3

Thank you for taking

Speaker 7

my question. Most of them have been answered. I guess just more of a general thought question here. When you're looking at your the build out of Field and Stream, the increase in the e commerce business, is there a natural movement from hard lines to soft line goods in the Dick's Sporting Goods stores? And that's really going to be the longer term story of the margins from a brick and mortar perspective there?

Speaker 3

Well, Sam, yes. So we talked about these combo stores. We're taking out the Hunt Fish Camp out of the combo store side of Dick's and having that exclusively in Field and Stream making room for these higher margin categories, higher turning categories such as women's kids and the team sports area. So and we've always talked about that one of the components of our margin rate expansion would come from a change in mix more to the soft line side of the business.

Speaker 7

And I mean and where are excluding the combo stores, where are we in that evolution?

Speaker 3

Well, we've as we did last year, we took some space out of the fitness area in the Gulf area and devoted that to these areas we talked about and had great results. So we still continue to do that. We're looking to where we can modify space and move more of the higher margin products in there. So we're still early on in this and as Field and Stream develops, we will continue to kind of make this move and try to drive more of that outdoor hunt fish camp business to Field and Stream and make some more space for these higher margin, higher turning items in deck.

Speaker 7

Thank you. And one last thing, when you when for instance, if you're in a city where you don't have a joint store, but one nearby, would you consider pulling PUNCAM Fish out of Dick's even though it's not an adjacent store?

Speaker 3

That's a conversation we're having. We've come to no conclusion on that yet.

Speaker 7

Well, I look forward to hearing about it. Thanks and good luck. Thanks. Thank you.

Speaker 1

The next question will come from Sean McGowan of Needham and Company. Please go ahead.

Speaker 3

Thanks guys. A couple of

Speaker 6

questions about timing. Ed, can you give us some sense of whether or not that you expect the timing of store openings in the second half of this year to be comparable to last year with the vast majority being in the Q3? And Andre, in terms of share repurchase, a lot more done in the Q1 this year than last year. Should you expect should we expect the full year total share repurchases to be comparable to last year, do you think?

Speaker 3

So couple of things there. You can expect the store openings to be skewed towards that Q3. So we're going to be about the same roughly about the same in the Q2 and the bulk of our store openings on the Dick's side, those 45 Dick's stores will be in the Q3 and that's pretty much the way we've traditionally done that. With respect to what we've told our investors today is the guidance that we have right now contemplates the $150,000,000 of share buyback that we've done. That's what it's incorporated in our guidance.

And we may do a little bit more this year. We may not. Right now, the guidance that we provided you includes that $150,000,000 and no more.

Speaker 6

Okay. Thank you.

Speaker 1

The next question will come from Scott Ciccarelli of RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Speaker 4

Hey, guys. So the e commerce business continues to grow pretty quickly. We've kind of established that. But as it matures, can you update us today in terms of how the product mix is different in the e commerce channel versus the mix at the store level? And specifically, how would the profitability trend look if you didn't have those extra expenses related to the GSI relationship?

Speaker 3

Well, the mix is a little bit different online than it is in the stores because we don't sell firearms, we don't sell ammunition, we don't sell some of those categories online. And it would be we're not going to give exactly what the difference would be, but it would be meaningfully more profitable without the GSI fees. And that's why we're moving in 20 17 to move everything onto our own platform and the accretion is pretty meaningful going forward.

Speaker 4

Okay. I guess my question is, if we even without the GSI relationship, I think you had mentioned before you expect the e commerce business or channel to be more profitable than the retail level. And just can you just help us understand how that's going to be possible with the extra shipping costs that are involved there?

Speaker 3

Well, I didn't say that it would be more profitable even with GSI. So we got into about the point where it was relatively the same. So the profitability was the same. But as we move forward through the year, if we exceed our sales budget, the profitability flow through from a brick and mortar standpoint is better than the profitability flow through from an e commerce standpoint because the GSI fees are linear. They are as a added percent of sales.

So it's difficult to leverage those costs. Basically, we pay a fee, a percentage fee on a $50 pair of shoes. We pay the same percent fee on $100 pair of shoes. So you can't leverage those costs. But this is getting to be much more profitable.

We think as we eliminate those fees from GSI, do more business, scale our tech and be able to leverage some of our fixed costs and turn some of our variable costs into fixed costs, which we then can leverage, we feel that it's going to continue to become it will be more profitable than the stores in a few years down the road.

Speaker 4

Okay. I'll follow-up, Blair. Thank you.

Speaker 1

Sure. Our next question will come from Michael Lasser of UBS. Please go ahead.

Speaker 7

Good morning. Thanks a lot for taking my question. And last quarter you were helpful in helping us understand what could go right in the Q1 and what could go wrong. I think it helped to frame the whole year in maybe at the start of the quarter and how much things got better. Can you help provide some more perspective for the Q2, especially relative to the margin?

I think the widespread expectation is that a lot of the 100 plus margin 100 basis points plus margin degradation that you saw in the Q2 of last year would come back as the bulk of that was related to the clearance activity associated with the call?

Speaker 3

Yes. So we're not going to give you the guidance of exactly how many what the margin rate is going to be, but it's we expect it to be meaningfully higher than it was last year because there will be a lot less promotional activity. One of the things that one of the headwinds from a margin rate standpoint that we have to anniversary is the World Cup. So the World Cup, as we said, was a meaningful part of our business and the margin rates on the World Cup were well above the company average.

Speaker 7

With that being said, wasn't that would suggest that the golf activity clearance was probably well in excess of 100 basis point drag. And so is that kind of something that's going to be permanently in the business now?

Speaker 3

No, the drag from a golf standpoint margin rate? Yes. No, the golf margin rates will be higher this year than they were last year.

Speaker 7

Okay. And then I guess longer term on the margin, we've seen the gross margin, the overall gross margin down for almost 2 years in a row now. Is this kind of the cost of doing business as you shift more volume online and move some traffic out of your stores, so occupancy is going to be this consistent drag? Or is there something aside from quarter to quarter volatility in the merch margin that can help stabilize that line item?

Speaker 3

So I do think that your point on occupancy deleverage, I mean that does in fact have we have to see our overall as I mentioned, our overall sales increase reach up around that 10%. So that's going to move around quarter to quarter. There have been some quarters over the last several years where we have actually positively leveraged occupancy, but we haven't been consistent with that. And that's one of the things that we talked about at our analyst meeting is that we've got to get that the brick and mortar comps a little bit more consistent as we move forward to be able to leverage that. But you do are you are seeing some of the dynamics with our outsized growth in e commerce where some of those e commerce costs right now are negatively they are not being leveraged as we continue to grow that business.

But on the margin rate side, on the flip side of that, we feel that there's margin rate expansion, merch margin rate expansion due to the mix of products that we're selling and also better inventory controls. We had some inventory issues that we took some markdowns that we needed to do to get rid of inventory last year and we feel that the inventory is in much better shape this year than it was last year. Our clearance inventory is down at the end of the Q1 again versus the end of the Q1 last year. So the inventory is in really very good shape and part of the margin rate expansion will come from mitigating markdown pressure in the back end.

Speaker 7

Okay. And then one last one. Just kind of broadly speaking, last year, your comps were above 1% for each quarter throughout the year. And I think it was widely viewed that last year was characterized as just a tough year for golf and hunting and yet this year the comp was below what you saw in any given quarter last year. So would you attribute that to just overall continued softness in golf?

Was the environment the consumer spending environment more difficult this year than it was at any given point last year? Maybe you could reflect on it from that perspective.

Speaker 3

Can you talk about the Yes,

Speaker 7

the overall comp in the Q1 compared to the overall comp over the last 4 quarters.

Speaker 3

Well, don't underestimate the effect that, as I said, 7 feet of snow up in New England and New York and the weather in the upper Midwest had, especially in the month of February and into March. We had a lot of stores that were just closed for days during that timeframe and it got sequentially much better. And it's kind of hard to take 1 quarter and say that that's an issue. We thought 1.8% on a comp basis, consolidated comp basis on the DICK side was pretty good under the conditions that we operated in, in the Q1.

Speaker 7

Okay. Thank you so much.

Speaker 3

Sure.

Speaker 1

And our final question will come from Mike Baker of Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead.

Speaker 4

Thanks. Sloot it in. So a year ago

Speaker 3

on this call, you told

Speaker 4

us that golf and the hunt business were 30% of sales. Can you tell us where you are now as you've downsized? And if you could break it out between golf and hunt, that would be helpful. Thanks.

Speaker 3

Yes. So we're not going to get to that level of granularity, but I will tell you that the golf and hunt business is less than 30% of the business today just based on the trend that those categories have and the growth trends we've got in other areas of business. So they are less meaningful this year than they were last year. But to kind of combine those and lay those out, we're not going to do that.

Speaker 4

Okay. And also in the past, you've told us that the drag is from golf and hunt or more, I guess, actually the growth in apparel and footwear? Are you going to give

Speaker 3

us those numbers going forward? Yes. Michael, let me give you that right now. If you take a look at our so last year, we didn't want to, but we got into this habit of telling you what the business was going to was growing ex the hunt business and ex the golf business because there's tremendous headwinds in those businesses. So I'm going to use the same that same factor for this year.

If you excluded those two businesses, for both the golf business and the hunt business, our comps at 1.8 comp at Dick's would have been a 3.8 comp at Dick's.

Speaker 4

Okay, very helpful. Thank you. And then I'll squeeze in one more. Just a clarification, Andre, you said you expect second, third and fourth quarter gross or you said margins to be up to make up what you lost in the Q1. I assume you mean gross margin, not operating margin.

Is that right?

Speaker 3

Yes. I met well, I met merchandise margin. The question that was asked was around the comparison on the merch margin. Yes. Okay.

Speaker 6

So that was specific to merchandise margin. Okay.

Speaker 4

Thank you. Those are my questions.

Speaker 1

And ladies and gentlemen, this will conclude our question and answer session. I would like to hand the conference back over to Ed Stack for his closing remarks.

Speaker 3

I'd like to thank everyone for joining us for our quarterly call and we'll look forward to talking to everyone at the next call. Thank you.

Speaker 1

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference call. We thank you for attending. You may now

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