Good morning, and welcome to the Dick's Sporting Goods Third Quarter Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in a listen only mode. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Anne Marie Magalos, Vice President, Treasurer of Services and Investor Relations.
Please go ahead. Thank you, Emily. Good morning and thank you for joining us to discuss our Q3 2014 financial results. Please note that a rebroadcast of today's call will be archived on the Investor Relations portion of our website located at dicks.com for approximately 30 days. In addition, as outlined in our press release, the dial in replay will also be available for approximately 30 days.
In order for us to take advantage of the Safe Harbor rules, I would like to remind you that today's discussion includes some forward looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995, which includes, but are not limited to, our views and expectations concerning our future results. Such statements relate to future events and expectations and involve unknown risks and uncertainties. Our actual results or actions may differ materially from those projected in the forward looking statements. For a summary of the risk factors that could cause results to differ materially from those expressed in the forward looking statements, please refer to our periodic reports filed with the SEC, including the company's annual report on Form 10 ks for the year ended February 1, 2014. We disclaim any obligation and do not intend to update these statements except as required by the securities laws.
We have also included some non GAAP financial measures in our discussion today. Our presentation of the most directly comparable financial measures calculated in accordance with generally accepted accounting principles and related reconciliations can be found on the Investor Relations portion of our website atdix.com. Leading our call today will be Ed Stack, our Chairman and Chief Executive Officer. Ed will review our Q3 results and key business drivers. Joe Schmidt, our President and Chief Operating Officer, will then review our omnichannel development programs and specialty concepts.
After Joe's comments, Andre Howe, our Chief Financial Officer, will provide greater detail regarding our financial results, capital allocation and guidance for the Q4 and full year 2014. I will now turn the call over to Ed Staff.
Thank you, Anne Marie. Earlier this morning, we announced our Q3 2014 results, which included consolidated earnings per diluted share of $0.41 at the higher end of our guidance range of $0.38 to $0.42 for the quarter. Our consolidated same store sales increased 1.1% at the lower end of our guidance of between 1% 3% due to the continued pressure in golf and hunting. The balance of our business excluding golf and hunting continued to perform well with comps increasing 4.6%. We once again demonstrated our confidence in our long term growth by repurchasing an additional $75,000,000 of stock in the quarter.
In the Q3, we saw continued growth in the categories that benefited from our sales from our space reallocation that was completed during the Q2. As a result, our stores now offer a broader, more compelling selection of athletic apparel supported by an elevated and differentiated product presentation. Our hunting business capped down mid single digits in Q3, slightly below our revised expectations as hunting is not rebounding as quickly as we had anticipated. We expect our hunting business to be approximately flat in the Q4 as year over year comparisons begin to ease. As we look at our golf business, golf galaxy comp down 8.9% and our DICK'S golf business was down a similar magnitude.
As we look to the Q4, we believe that our merchandising, product offerings and advertising will make us a destination this holiday, both in stores and online and drive our comp store sales growth. Our guidance range incorporates these strategies along with our expectation that the retail environment will remain competitive and promotional. Andre will walk you through our guidance in more detail. I'd like to thank our associates throughout the company for the hard work and determination they showed to deliver our Q3 results and for the upcoming efforts during the holiday season. As this is Joe's last earnings call prior to his retirement, I'd like to thank him for the last 25 years he spent with us.
Joe has been our President for over 6 years. He has served in many roles in the company and has done a great job in every one of them. Joe has not only been the President of our company, but also one of my best friends over the years. All of us at Dick's and especially me are going to miss him. I'd now like to turn the call over to my friend, Joe.
Thanks, Ed. During the Q3 of 2014, we further expanded our omnichannel platform, growing both our store base and our e commerce while driving store productivity. We opened 24 new Dick's stores, relocated one store that was at the end of its lease and fully remodeled 5 stores. We also closed 1 Dick's store. In the 1st 2 weeks of Q4, we completed our 2014 store development program with 6 additional Dick's stores opening.
This brings our store count to 603 Dick's stores in 46 states. During 2014 for Dick's, we opened 45 net new stores, relocated 5 stores and fully remodeled 5 stores. We will discuss our 2015 store opening plans on our Q4 earnings call. In the Q3, we also opened 1 new Golf Galaxy store and relocated 1 store. We expect to close 2 Golf Galaxy locations that are at the end of their leases in the Q4.
This will bring our Golf Galaxy store count to 78 stores at the end of the year. We also opened 7 Field and Stream stores in the Q3, bringing our store base to 10 stores and completing our Field and Stream opening plans for 2014. As Ed mentioned in the 2nd quarter, we had reallocated space within our existing Dick's stores to increase our offering of women's and youth athletic apparel and the space reallocation was set for the entire Q3. As part of this initiative, we took approximately 1,000 square feet out of our golf equipment area and additional square footage out of fitness equipment. The reallocation of store selling space was completed in all of our single level stores, which represents approximately 85% of our total store base.
Customer response to the new product selection and merchandising presentation has been great. We also realigned our store staffing to support the growth areas of our business such as athletic apparel, team sports and footwear. Our new Dick's stores continued to deliver strong performance with new store productivity of 96.2 percent in the 3rd quarter. As you may know, all of our existing stores and new Dick's stores feature ship from store capabilities, allowing us to connect online shoppers with inventory in our stores. Our new stores enhance our distribution network as new stores can also be used to fulfill e commerce orders.
We continue to optimize our ship from store fulfillment to improve inventory turns, reduce shipping costs and accelerate merchandise delivery to our customers. As we open new stores as we open stores in new markets, we've also seen our e commerce business, although off a small base, increased by over 50%. This is another example of importance of the stores to our omnichannel growth. Another feature of our omnichannel offering is buy online pickup in store, which is available in all of our stores in a limited number of categories. We have found that buy online, pickup in store is more popular for items that have higher shipping costs.
We believe buy online, pickup in stores is not only a benefit to our customers, but it will also draw customers into our stores and we are pleased with the early adoption we are seeing. Turning now to Field and Stream. Our 7 grand openings this quarter performed in line with our expectations and we continue to see opportunities to drive sales and margins. We are learning a lot from our initial stores and we are incorporating these learnings into all of our existing and future stores. Now I will turn the call over to Andre to discuss our financial performance, capital allocation and 2014 outlook in more detail.
Thank you, Joe, and good morning to everyone. Today, I'm going to cover 3 topics: 1st, our 3rd quarter results next, our capital allocation strategy and finally, our outlook for the Q4 and the full year. Starting with our Q3 results, total sales increased 9% to $1,500,000,000 Consolidated same store sales increased 1.1% compared to our guidance of 1% to 3% same store sales growth and compared to a shifted comp of 3.3% in the Q3 of last year. DICK'S Sporting Goods consolidated same store sales increased 1.7% while Golf Galaxy decreased 8.9% in the 3rd quarter. The 1.7% consolidated increase in the Dick's business was driven by a 1% decrease in traffic and by a 2.7% increase in sales per transaction.
E commerce penetration was 7.3% of the total sales in the 3rd quarter compared to 6.5% in the Q3 of last year. Moving down the income statement. 3rd quarter gross profit was $452,000,000 or 29.6 percent of sales and was down 74 basis points from the Q3 of 2013. This was due primarily to a 53 basis point decrease in merchandising margin as well as occupancy deleverage and increased shipping expense as a percentage of sales due to the growth of our e commerce business. SG and A expenses in the Q3 were $357,700,000 or 23.43 percent of sales and leverage 40 basis points for the Q3 versus the Q3 of last year.
This was primarily due to lower administrative and payroll expenses as a percentage of sales. Pre opening expenses were $14,300,000 a $2,200,000 increase from the Q3 of 2013. The increase in our pre opening expenses primarily reflects an increase in the number of Field and Stream stores opened in the Q3 this year relative to the prior year. For the Q3, we generated earnings of $0.41 per diluted share compared to earnings of $0.40 per diluted share in the Q3 of last year. Now turning to the balance sheet.
We ended the Q3 of 2014 with approximately $78,000,000 of cash and cash equivalents and $281,000,000 of borrowings outstanding under our revolving credit facility. Last year, we ended the Q3 with about $66,000,000 in cash and cash equivalents and $116,000,000 of borrowings outstanding on our revolving credit facility. Over the past 12 months, we have invested in our omnichannel growth, invested in Field and Stream and we've also returned over $410,000,000 to shareholders through share repurchases and dividends. Total inventory increased 12.4% at the end of this year's Q3 compared to the end of last year's Q3, including inventory to support the growth of our Field and Stream stores and inventory for the upcoming holiday season. We are comfortable with the level and the quality of our inventory.
Net capital expenditures in the 3rd quarter were approximately $78,000,000 or $121,000,000 on a gross basis. This compares to a net capital expenditures of $77,000,000 or $101,000,000 on a gross basis in the Q3 of 2013. Turning now to our capital allocation strategy. As Ed mentioned, we repurchased an additional $75,000,000 of our stock in the Q3 of 2014, bringing our fiscal 2014 repurchases to $200,000,000 As we've discussed in the past, we expect to use our repurchase program to both offset dilution and opportunistically repurchase shares. Since we started our $1,000,000,000 authorization at the beginning of 2013, we have repurchased over $455,000,000 of stock and have approximately $545,000,000 remaining under the authorization.
Now turning to our guidance. As Ed outlined, we believe we have the merchandising and the marketing plans in place to drive sales during this important holiday season. Our 4th quarter same store sales and EPS guidance also reflects our expectations for a promotional holiday. For the Q4, we anticipate consolidated earnings per diluted share in the range of $1.18 to $1.28 Consolidated same store sales are expected to be in the range of 1% to 3% compared to a 7.3% increase in our shifted comp in the Q4 of last year. Gross profit margins are expected to decrease as a result of planned promotional activities and from an increase in shipping expense as a percentage of sales due to the continued growth of our e commerce business.
SG and A expenses as a percentage of sales are expected to leverage and we will closely monitor our spending plans. For the full year 2014, we now expect consolidated non GAAP earnings per diluted share in the range of $2.75 to $2.85 and same store sales to increase in the range of 1% to 2%. Gross margin is expected to decline and SG and A is expected to leverage slightly. Pre opening expenses are expected to be higher due to the increase in store openings compared to last year, including our Field and Stream stores. In summary, our 3rd quarter earnings were at the higher end of our guidance.
Excluding the headwinds in Golf and Hunting, the rest of our business delivered a 4.6% comp increase. We also continue to demonstrate our commitment to returning capital to shareholders, repurchasing $75,000,000 in stock in Q3. As we look to Q4, we believe we are well positioned to drive sales growth with the strategies we have in place. Our guidance reflects these strategies combined with the expectation of a promotional retail environment. This concludes our prepared comments and I'd like to thank you for your interest in Dick's Sporting Goods.
Operator, please open the line for questions.
Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. And our first question is from Seth Segment of Credit Suisse. Please go ahead.
Okay, great. Thanks very much. I wanted to just first focus on the traffic commentary, so down 1% this quarter. Maybe you just elaborate on what's driving that? It seems like it's a little bit of a change in the recent trend.
I know you don't typically talk about trends within the quarter, but was there maybe a weather issue or something related to that that maybe pushed some sales into Q4? Any commentary there would be helpful.
Yes. I wouldn't say there was much of a weather change. And the big issue around traffic is going to be around that gun and ammunition business. The 3rd quarter 3rd and 4th quarter are important quarters here, and that business just hasn't recovered as quickly as we thought it would.
Okay. And so just a follow-up on that. If you look at the categories excluding hunting and golf up 4.6, It did seem to moderate a little bit versus prior quarters. Any more color on why that may have moderated?
We had kind of started some of these moves earlier. Earlier last year when we tested this, but a big part of that was around the World Cup. And the World Cup, as we talked about, drove a pretty good comp in the Q2.
I see. Okay. And just focusing on the space reallocation work, the improvements that you're seeing in that part of the business that you've made some changes, do you feel like you're getting incremental traffic there? Or are you just starting to see better conversion? And then as you look to 2015, is there another phase of the space reallocation work to come?
So I think we're getting both better conversion and I think we're starting to get a reputation of having this product. And so I think it's starting to generate some additional traffic. We're not going to be changing space significantly next year versus what we've done this year, but I think that the content we have coming in will be better next year than it has been this year, which was pretty good this year. But we think we've just got that extra experience. It will be we expect to see gains there next year also.
Okay, great. Thanks for the color and Joe, best of luck.
Thanks, Seth.
Our next question is from Robbie Ohmes of Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Please go ahead.
Good morning, guys. Hey, Robbie. Good morning, Robbie. Hey, Robbie. And Joe, best of luck as well.
Thanks, Robbie. You I think a couple of you mentioned the promo environment being baked into the guidance for the Q4. Give us a little more help on how the promo environment is the same or different from last year? And then if possible, some commentary on whether you're seeing, say, in team sports, any improvement competitively coming out of Walmart or Target, sort of the discount end? And then similarly, I think Macy's is taking on more apparel from Nike and Under Armour and sort of how you see that playing out in your promotional environment comments for the Q4?
Thanks.
Sure, Ravi. So from Macy's, they've certainly made some moves in that area. But I think the moves that we did have counteracted any of the gains that Macy's may be taking. So I think some market that Macy's may be getting isn't coming from us with the changes that we made. And we really haven't seen any meaningful change in Walmart from the team sports standpoint.
So all of that is we really haven't seen a big change. And Robbie, I'm sorry, what was the first question? So
when you guys are talking about the guidance assumes a promotional environment, so it's not coming from Macy's or Walmart, sort of maybe help us understand how it's the same or different from last year's holiday?
Well, I think that where we see some promotional aspect is going to be around the hunt business has gotten to be a little bit more promotional. And I think that depending on how the weather plays out, I think people are going to be very promotional to clear out those seasonal products and we want to make sure that we're moving right along with the rest of the market there. A lot of retailers have talked about how they're going to be promotional based on the cautious consumer and we just need to be cognizant that those that environment is out there.
Got it. Thanks very much, Ed.
Thanks, Robbie.
Our next question is from Brian Nigel of Oppenheimer. Please go ahead.
Hi, good morning. Couple of quick questions, if I could. First off, on the gross margin side, and particularly with respect to golf. So you took I guess pretty significant markdowns in the golf category in Q2. Was there any impact here in Q3 of the flow of that product then after it was marked down on the gross margins?
No. Okay.
So and then as far as golf, are there markdowns basically done there then?
Yes. Our inventory is in great shape. I think the inventory
at
the vendors is in better shape than it has been. So yes, we don't see any meaningful those markdowns around golf are behind us.
Okay. Thanks. Then the second question I have with respect to just the comps, you obviously gave us our guidance and talked some color around that too. But conceptually, how do you you do have a much more difficult comparison in the Q4. How do you think about managing your sales and your guidance around that typical comparison?
We take a look at opportunities where we think that we can drive business. We've taken a look at that kind of the trends that we're having today. Some of these categories that are doing quite well, we're the categories that are doing quite well are big important for the quarter. So the women's business, we think that youth business, we think the team sports business, we think the comps at the hospital are going to somewhat moderate and we thought it will be relatively flat, maybe down a little bit, maybe up a little bit. But we've taken a look at this and we're pretty confident where these comps are going
to be. And Brian, it's important to know we'll also benefit again. We continue to benefit from the space allocation. Remember, we got that done mostly in the by the back to school timeframe. So year over year, as you look at what we're presenting to consumers, it's going to be a much more as Ed has mentioned, a much more robust product offering in categories that are growing specifically around the youth and the women's apparel.
Got it. Thank you very much. Appreciate it.
Our next question is from Simeon Gutman of Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.
Thanks. Good morning and also best of luck to you, Joe. One follow-up on the promotional environment, which you've called out all year and I know you just called it out maybe for the Q4. Can you give us a sense of how things are playing out different than how you're planning for things promotionally? Meaning, how much is being improvised promotionally versus what you're executing against plan?
Right now, it's been pretty close to what we have planned it to be. We've gotten a little bit more aggressive at times in the hunt category than we had anticipated. So other than the gun and ammunition business, the promotional environment that we've executed against has been pretty close to our plan.
Right. Okay. So it doesn't sound like it's gotten hotter or colder. And then with respect to golf, you mentioned your inventories are in great shape. What kind of medicine has the have the manufacturers take?
How are they looking at the category now? I guess you can't control how much they produce, but you can obviously control what you take in. So in other words, how do you avoid the markdown risk, let's say, if the season's okay, but they still
overproduce? Well, I think that there's certainly a chance of that, although I don't think that that's going to happen. I think the manufacturers have done a very good job of getting their inventory cleaned out. The new product offerings are a little bit more focused than they have been in the past. The conversations we've had about the next iteration of products or product launches after what's happening this fall and early spring.
There's not people rushing to get product out there to drive sales. I think they're going to kind of take everybody's talked about that the business needs to shrink in order to be more profitable and I think that's what's going to happen. So I think the manufacturers are much more disciplined, the retailers are much more disciplined and I think the golf business is going to be an okay business. I don't think it's going to be a great business, but it's going to be an okay business and we'll kind of hit bottom here in the next quarter probably and we think that we'll see increased profitability going into next year.
Okay. Thank you very much.
Our next question is from Camilo Lyon of Canaccord Genuity. Please go ahead.
Thanks. Good morning, everyone. Ed, just curious on the golf business as well. Are you seeing any divergent trends amongst the brands? Or is it pretty broad based comparable trends across all the brands?
Well, I think there's some brands that have moved market share around. I won't comment on those, but there are some brands that have moved market share, but we don't see any brand really falling off that's really taking big market share. We don't see any other brand really getting hurt significantly.
Okay. I'm just trying to get a sense as to once
you're kind
of clear of the inventory, it sounds like you are already actually, that in the alignment of the inventory at your stores of the better performing brands could actually result in some positivity in the category. Is that a possibility next year?
Well, I don't want to get ahead of ourselves and kind of say what we think is give guidance to what we think the golf business is going to be. But as I said, I think it's going to hit bottom, may have already hit bottom, but because some of the new product launches have done quite well. With the Titleist 915 from a pre sell standpoint, some of the things that we've done with the Taylor Made irons, we think it's going to be a more profitable year next year. We'll just leave it at that.
Okay. Fair enough. And then just on the opening price point strategy that you engaged in a few quarters ago, if you could just update us on how that strategy is unfolding and if the consumer is really responding to that and being drawn to that opening price point and if you feel you need to expand the breadth of the products that are on that OPP strategy to better compete with some of your more direct competitors?
Yes. No, we really did the OPP strategy we put in place, we feel that we've done a very good job. We don't think we need to expand it significantly. There's a couple of areas that we're going to we will put some more OPP in, but it's very, very, very little. We're really pleased with where we're at right now.
Great. And then just a final question on other retailers have spoken about cold weather products selling early in the season than would have expected. Just curious to get your take on that and if you're seeing that as well and how you feel you're positioned from an inventory perspective to capture and capitalize on that category in the 4th quarter?
We won't specifically talk about what's going on in the Q4, but we feel that we're very well positioned. As we've talked about before, we've got partnership orders with a number of vendors that we've got good sitting out there that are reserved for us. If we need it, we can take it. So as the weather that we have continues, we'll be able to chase merchandise. But if it warms up, it's still a long quarter.
If it warms up and we've got the ability to not take that product so that we can control those inventories and control those markdowns.
Perfect. Thanks so much. All the best in the Q4. And Joe, all the best to you as well.
Thank you.
Our next question is from Kate McShane of Citi Research. Please go ahead. Hi. Thank you. And Joe, best of luck.
Thanks, Kate.
I was wondering if you could give any insight into how footwear performed during the quarter relative to the core comp? And if there were any new items for this upcoming holiday season that you think is unique and could be a driver like GoPro or something else?
So we won't get into just what the footwear business has been specifically, but there's been we've been pleased with our footwear business. We think that some there are some categories of business that we've got for the Q4 that we're pretty excited about. That whole electronics category around GoPro, the Fitbit, the wearables, we continue to be extremely enthusiastic about and have been performing quite well.
Okay. That's great. And then do you have any commentary or thoughts around how your business might be impacted by the West Coast port strike over the next quarter or 2?
Yes. So at least for the Q4, I mean most of the products that we've made, we've got. We don't anticipate we've made some modifications in our shipping strategies to try to avoid the West Coast, but it could have an impact. Right now, we don't really see anything meaningful.
Okay. Thank you. Sure.
Our
next question is from Paul Sweeney of Morningstar. Please go ahead.
Good morning. I wanted to ask a question about the real estate in the Field and Stream. I know in the past that even at the Analyst Day, you said it was similar demographics and often you're finding the same type of boxes near a Dick's store. Now that you've got a little a few more openings under your belt, both for Dick's concept and the Field and Stream Mart, is the availability and the pricing of real estate there that you can continue with your opening plans over the next, say, 5 years, I think?
Yes. No problem at all. Yes.
And you're still thinking that it's the same demographic, the same area sort of like the Cranberry store where it's almost in the same right in the same shopping area? Is that
helping the strategy?
The demographics are different between the two brands, but the real estate strategy in the area that we put them in is relatively similar. So where we are in Cranberry is a perfect example, kind of where we are down in the South Hills in Pittsburgh is a perfect example. In Columbus, Ohio, we've got a Dick's store lined up right next to a Field and Stream store. Both the stores were really pleased with their performance so far.
Are there some geographic areas where although there's a DICK'S store, it just wouldn't support a Field and Stream?
Sure. There's definitely some areas like that. Perfect example would be Southern California.
Okay. Is that I mean, can you give us any in, is that about 20% of the base or what would that exclude?
I'd say 20% is probably a pretty decent number.
Okay, great. I just wanted to try to
get The 20% that you'd exclude.
Yes, exactly. And then just wanted to a quick housekeeping question. You're I'm not trying to be flip here, but the 4th quarter guidance is on 120,000,000 shares and you ended the quarter with 120,000,000 diluted. But then it looks like the full year contemplates about a 1 point 2 reduction to 118,000,000 118,800,000 in the 4th quarter. So, are those on 2 different share count basis?
I think the share count basis are slightly different. I think you should be looking at we don't have a number of 118 in there. I think it's 121 is what you should look at your number. So I'm saying that to get down to an weighted average of 121 a year And maybe it's just the timing of when it was bought back in the quarter, but it looks like you're going to buy back another at least 1,000,000 shares in the 4th quarter by the full year guidance? You should use 120 for your Q3 number and 121 for the full year number as you look at that.
Okay. All right. Thank you.
Our next question is from Scot Ciccarelli of RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead.
Hey, guys. Scot Ciccarelli. Can we get I know we've been kind of talking about golf and hunting for
the last couple of quarters. Can we
get an update where we stand in terms of the vendor store rollouts? And is it fair to assume that these vendor store areas still generate higher sales and margins than other parts of the store? Or has any of that changed at this stage?
You're talking about vendor shops, you're talking about the Nike Shops, TNF and other all?
That's correct.
Yes. They're still doing great. Continue to invest in them and we're very pleased with those. They've been very productive.
And do you have an update in terms of numbers or penetration percentages?
Yes. Let me give you that, Scott. So, right now, we opened an additional 24 Nike Fieldhouse shops in Q3. That brings the total to 3.42. We opened up an additional 28 UA shops.
That brings the total to 287. We've got 89 permanent T and F shops, but as you know with the season in Q4, we'll put in 90 seasonal outpost shops that are happening in Q3. Those are the, I think, the bigger brands that you look at.
All right. That's very helpful. And then just a housekeeping item here. Can you talk about expected debt leverage targets just to help us better understand your capital allocation plans? Obviously, the revolver has been taking on a little bit more capacity.
Is there a more permanent plan on that front?
No. Right now, we're using our revolver to do the things that we need to do. We've discussed and we're not going to we're not discussing on this call what our leverage strategy is going to be. Okay.
Got it. Thank you.
Our next question is from Stephen Tanal of Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.
Thanks a lot. Good morning, guys. Wanted to follow-up on the hunting business. The pressure you're seeing there, is that more on ammunition or more on guns? And I'm sort of curious with how you'd frame it versus kind of the NICS data that we're all looking at which obviously would suggest October was a pretty strong month for firearms specifically.
Yes. We're seeing some pressure a little bit of pressure on guns and some pressure on ammunition too. So it's actually both.
Got it. And your expectations for the Q4, I know you've said you expect the hunting business to be flattish. How does that compare to kind of your prior expectations for the business?
Pretty close.
Got it. Okay. And then switching gears a bit. I'm sort of curious, I guess October was pretty warm in most of the country. I was wondering if you care to comment on sort of the impact of weather in the Q3 and how it might be affecting your 4th quarter outlook?
Yes. I mean, I don't think the weather had a big impact one way or the other.
Got it. And sure, I guess, the cold weather is likely a little bit helpful here. So I guess was there much variability in comps through the quarter or was it pretty consistent then?
Yes. We've never commented kind of on what's happened through the quarter. Our comps that we comped at 1.1 for the quarter, which we had hoped we'd do a little bit better than that, but because of the gun and ammunition business was really the drag
on the comp number. Versus planned, sure. Understood. And then last for me. You guys mentioned 2 closings of Galaxies in the Q4.
I'm sort of curious how many total leases are coming due in the quarter?
I don't have that. Doug, do you have another?
Yes, I do. We got about 63% of our Gulf Galaxy stores are coming up for option over the next 3 years.
So what we've got in the quarter, I'm not sure. But we're not closing any other than those 2.
Okay. Fair enough. Thank you, guys.
Our next question is from Sean McGowan of Needham and Company. Please go ahead.
Thank you. Hi, guys. I wanted to just tack on a little bit on to Scott's question earlier. Can you give us a sense of what the revolver will be at year end? Do you expect it to be cleaned up at year end?
Yes, yes, we do. We expect to come out, exit the year without any borrowings on our revolver. As we have in the last several years, we typically because of getting ready for the holiday, we typically are into our revolver usually in Q4, a little bit early part and we come out clean.
Okay. Thank you. And then a couple of field and stream questions. Can you give us a sense of what the inventory build year on year would have been for the toll chain if you exclude the inventory build related to the Field and Stream stores?
Yes. It'd be about 7.8%. 8%.
Okay. And then on Field and Stream, so you've got quite a number of opens over the last 12 plus months. When you say it was these last ones were up to your expectations, were those expectations raised by the strong performance of the first couple of stores? Or were there were your expectations the same as they were before you opened the first store?
We've had the same expectations. Okay,
great. Thank you. Thanks.
Our next question is from Lee Giordano of CRT Capital. Please go ahead.
Thanks. Good morning, everybody. Can you talk
a little more about the remodel program and what your what the remodels entail currently?
And if you're seeing a nice benefit in comps as
you remodel these stores? Thanks. Yes. We've seen a big benefit when we've remodeled the stores. And what exactly do you do when you actually remodel?
Do you put new shop in shops in? And how much
do you typically spend on a remodel?
Yes, we do. We look at shop in shops as an opportunity. We look at some of the portal walls as an opportunity. The shared service footwear deck in the front end are the primary areas that we look to enhance that area down the middle of the store that really focuses on those businesses that are working pretty well for us around the athletic apparel and shops, youth apparel and footwear. But we've seen some pretty good results out of these remodel stores.
And as far as cost for the remodel, we're not going to get into store specifics.
Okay. And then any updates on the fitness category?
I know you're taking out some space there, but any improvements or deceleration there? Thanks.
Yes. We've actually been very happy about what's happened with our fitness business. We've actually while we're not going to give specific numbers, this past quarter we actually comp positive in that space and have done so over the last several quarters. So we're pretty happy about what we've done in terms of reducing that space and still bringing the offering to consumers along. Thank you.
Our next question is from Mark Miller of William Blair. Please go ahead.
Hi, good morning and good luck, Joe. Hey, Mark. Yes. I know the formal 2015 guidance comes with the 4th quarter, but at a high level, could you give us some perspective about how we approach next year? You talked about golf being better, but maybe you could add some of the other puts and takes you see?
And then specifically in e commerce, how do you view that as an investment next year as compared to what you're investing this year? Mark, you answered the question right when you started. We're not going to provide guidance for fiscal year 2015 on the Q3 call. We will do so on the Q4 call as we as our is our typical norm. So, I'll leave it at that.
From an e commerce standpoint, we'll continue to invest in e commerce probably about relatively same as what we've done this year. We continue to be enthusiastic about what we're seeing from our e commerce business. And as we continue to move through this process of exiting what we're doing with GSI, we're going to continue to make these investments and we're really pleased with what's going on there right now.
Okay. Great. Thanks, Ed. And then on Field and Stream, can you give us some sense of what penetration has been so far for private brand and where you think that can go? And then if you can remind us what are the other factors there that you think can help improve margins relative to the core Dick's business?
Yes, sure. The private brand penetration is hovering around 7% right now. And as far as where we see the opportunity, it's too early to comment on specific performance, but we think there's an opportunity to continue to refine our assortment around the products and brands that the customers are looking for. We continue to test and invest in new opportunities. Some of the things that we've tested expansion of workwear, a Western Boot Shop, general store area, and we think that's going to drive box productivity and margin rates as well.
So that's just some of the things that we're exploring in the Field and Stream stores. Then final question for me. You got leverage on admin and payroll in the quarter. I was encouraged to see that given you had been I thought making somewhat greater investment in service in the stores. So can you explain how you accomplished that?
Thanks. Certainly. And it didn't come at the expense of not putting the dollars and the labor in the store. Actually it came out of a lot of our administrative costs here in Pittsburgh and our associates are being mindful in terms of how we do that and understand how important that is to the organization as we continue to drive to delivering our EPS goals. So I think a lot of it came out of the headquarter piece.
We continue to invest in our stores.
Our next question will come from Sam Poser of Stern AG. Please go ahead.
Thank you for taking my call. I wanted to just follow-up on that. I mean, can you give us any color on how the level of service or the number of people working in the stores may have changed over the last year or so? Or how you've realigned?
Yes. There's not much there's not a significant change. Actually, we've put some more service into the stores, which we talked about last year that we reinvested in some payroll dollars. So if anything, it's remained relatively constant to up a little bit.
And then how should
we think about I mean, I know you went to the next year, but how should we think about the sustainability of how much lower can the overall SG and A go as a percent of sales if you sustain like a low single digit comp?
Can you repeat that again, Sam?
I guess, like how long can we expect leverage on low single digit same store sales?
Well, we're also opening up additional stores, Sam. So that gives us some additional dollars to leverage those fixed costs that we have here in the home office and our distribution centers. So there's still leverage even with single digit low single digit comps. And Sam, I
think it's also important to note one of the things we started to articulate to our investor base is that you have to look at the leverage factors around not only comp, but around our total sales, including the new stores that we open. And the other things we're doing is as we continue and Joe pointed this out, as we continue to leverage ship from store and things like that, we're continuing to get a lot of leverage from the store labor that we deploy against those services as well. So I think you have to look at it in totality.
Thank you. And then just one other thing. The smaller market stores, could you give us a status update, how many there are and how that's doing and sort of where your plans are there looking ahead?
Yes. I would think of our smaller store growth as somewhere in the neighborhood of 25% to 30% on an annual basis.
And the stores that we've opened up, Sam, are doing extremely well. We're really pleased with this program so far.
Are you seeing better sales per square foot in those smaller stores than you do in the larger stores as you think about it in the bigger picture?
Slightly better, not significantly, but a little bit. But some of the costs associated with those stores are less costly. So less rent, less marketing expense. So we're very happy
to close that.
If I could do one more, just on Gulf Galaxy. What are you expecting out of that? I know you're closing a couple in Q4. Kevin, when you think ahead, what is keeping you involved in that given the weakness in golf? And wouldn't you expect your golf business to improve at Dick's if you took a more active approach in shuttering more of those stores?
Sam, we've answered this question for we've answered this question on a number of occasions of how important the Golf Galaxy business is to our total golf business. We've indicated how important that is to our vendor relations. And also, would we get some benefit at Dick's if the Gulf Galaxy store is closed? Yes, we probably would, the ones that are right next to a Dick's store, but we think the market share is really important. And we do think that the Gulf business is going to bottom and that it's going to be more profitable.
So we are not exiting and we've been very clear about this. We are not exiting the golf business and we are not exiting the golf galaxy business.
Thank you. Have a great holiday and good luck, Joe.
You do the same. Thank you.
Our next question is from Michael Baker of Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead.
Thanks. A couple of questions. First, on that Golf business, could you talk about by the year end, what percent of your total sales it will be? What was it a year ago? Where is it going?
And then related to the golf business, you're implying down 8.9% or I guess you said down in line with Golf Galaxy or 8.9%. I think it was down less than that in the Q2 because you said it was better than the Golf Galaxy. So do I interpret that right that the Golf the year over year trends in Golf have gotten worse in the Q3?
Not a lot. If you remember, we got very promotional in the Q2 that we discussed that we got very promotional from a price standpoint to try to clean through this inventory and we've cleaned through the inventory. So, I'm very pleased with the inventory levels we have in Gulf right now. We think Gulf will continue to be a smaller percent of our business, which we've talked about because other areas of the business are going to grow at a faster rate. Golf, we think, is still going to struggle a little bit.
We think as I said, I think we're going to hit probably the bottom here in this quarter. And I think going into next year, the golf business is going to be meaningfully more profitable than it has been over this past year. And we're somewhat enthusiastic about the cautiously optimistic, I should say, on the new products that some of the brands are bringing out.
Okay. And then a sort of similar type well, different question. On Field and Stream, so Hunt not quite as good and you're a little bit concerned in
the Q4 there. Does this change
at all your thinking on the long term viability of the
Field and Stream stores or
is this just a little bit of a softness there and nothing to worry about too much? Yes. We think the hunt business is a little bit different than the golf business. We think the hunt business is rebounding. We indicated that we think it will be flattish in the quarter.
So, we think this is more of a short term issue than a long term issue. As we look at our broader outdoor business, the broader outdoor business has been very good, remains very good, and we continue to be enthusiastic about opening up Field and Stream stores. Okay. One more if I could is on the merchandise margin, it was down 53 basis points better than it was last quarter, but you said it wasn't really impacted by golf. So what is impacting the merchandise margins?
Is it the mark downs in the hunt business? And what is the expectations for merchandise margins in the Q4? I know you said gross margin down. Is that down less and less of an impact from merchandise margins? Thanks.
We took some we did as I said, we did get a bit aggressive in the hunt category to try to drive business. We took some markdowns to clean up some of this inventory, some of that around Gulf, some around some other areas. But again, we're really pleased with our inventory levels. Our clearance levels are relatively consistent with what they have been in the previous Q3. So we've kind of got these markdowns behind us and there may be some margin rate pressure from the promotional environment out there, but it won't be because of markdowns that are required.
Okay. Thank you. Appreciate all the color.
Our next question is from Matt Namer of Wells Fargo. Please go ahead.
Good morning. Thanks for taking my questions. First on the footage reallocation, I know it's early, but could you talk to what you're seeing in terms of sales and gross profit productivity in that space relative to what it was before? And then is it fair to assume that 100% of that is incremental to the other apparel space in the store?
We're pleased with what it's doing in incremental. It's incremental to the space of what we reallocated. It's doing more business than what we took out, so to speak. So yes, we think it's certainly incremental and accretive.
I guess said another way, do you think that that's stealing some sales from other areas in the store? Or is she going in and buying something in the previous apparel footage as well as the new apparel footage?
Oh, yes. That's incremental. So, I mean, she's buying more product. She's coming in more often. It's incremental.
Okay. And then secondly, your e commerce performance was very strong in the 4th quarter over the last couple of years. And I'm just wondering if you think that will be a big driver again in the Q4 of this year as it was in the past few years.
I think it will be meaningful. We're starting to move off get to a bigger base. So, it will be a little bit more difficult to have the same kind of comp gain, but we're looking for a pretty solid comp gain in our e commerce business.
And then just lastly housekeeping, your pre opening per store was down, which is surprising. I would think that the Field and Streams have pretty high pre opening expense. So just wondering if you can comment on that. Yes. Matt, I'd have to go I'll go back and take a look at that.
You're right that our field and streams typically are pre openings and our grand openings are slightly larger because we create a lot of theater around these locations. As you know, they're the brand is being introduced to many, many markets. So, I'll go back and take a look at that. That was probably just timing is the only thing I can think of. I can't imagine that your math isn't right.
So, it's got to be timing quarter in quarter out. Okay. Thanks so much and have a great holiday. Thank you.
Our next question is from Peter Benedict of Robert W. Baird. Please go ahead.
Hey, guys. Thanks for taking the questions. We're spending a lot of time here. We appreciate it. Just following up on a couple of questions, just on gross margin, Andre.
So when we think about that in aggregate in the 4th quarter, do you think the declines will be on par with what we saw in the Q3? Or should we continue to see some moderation in the pace of decline in gross margin? I think you should see a moderation in decline. As I talked about on our Q2 call, our Q3 results were going to be better. And I do believe that our Q4 results will be in the aggregate gross margin better than you saw in the Q3 and the composition is going to be a little bit different.
Obviously, our shipping expenses will be higher as a percentage given the weight that our e commerce business is in the 4th quarter, but I think you'll see some potential positive movement on occupancy leverage and things like that. So, I think better to answer your question, the components will be a little bit different given the weight of the various businesses in the quarter.
Sure. Okay. That makes sense. Thanks.
And then just circling back to
the golf category, I know as you're saying potentially bottoming here, just as we think about the Q4, I assume you guys are expecting continued declines in comps. Do you expect them to moderate, Expect them to be at kind of the same level as you saw here in the Q3? Any kind of color on what you're planning for golf from a comp perspective in the Q4 would be helpful. Thank you.
Yes. I think that the comps in the Q4 for golf are going to be somewhat related to weather. So if guys are out playing golf, they're going to be a little better than if they're not playing golf. So but golf, this is our smallest quarter for golf and especially in Golf Galaxy, it's the smallest quarter. And one of the things that I'd like to make sure that everyone understands, we've had a lot of conversation about the Golf business and why are we staying in Golf Galaxy and all that.
I just want to make everybody aware, Golf Galaxy is profitable. Although the comps have been difficult, Golf Galaxy is a profitable operation and it is accretive to earnings. And sometimes I think people might lose sight of that. But the comps in golf, I think will and they might be relatively the same. They might moderate a little bit, but I think in as we go into next year, they will be better than they have been this year.
Okay. Thank you very much. Sure.
Next question is from Michael Lasser of UBS Investment Bank. Please go ahead.
Good morning. Thanks a lot for taking my question. My first one is Ed on earlier in the call you mentioned that you're not planning any space reallocation for next year. Is that because you think the categories that you addressed this year were the only ones that were reflecting the business? Or the business won't really benefit from having a more dynamic approach to space allocation within the stores?
Well, I interpreted the question to be any significant space allocation or growing the areas that we've already grown. So the areas that we've already grown are that's completed. We're very comfortable with that. We may try to get a little bit more area for the youth business, but all in all, that's basically done. So that was my interpretation of the question.
To broaden the question, will there be other areas of space allocation changes? Yes, there will be. We're not going to go into that right now as we're still working through some of these, but we do expect to change some space allocation next year. It won't be as big a change as what we did this year though.
Does that reflect just a difference in philosophy where you will take a more dynamic approach to how you allocate space within the stores?
I think we're just taking a look at some of the opportunities that we see out there based on where the environment is today. And when we think we need to change space, we'll change it, but we won't change it just to change it. And we think that there's a couple of other areas where we think we can get some meaningful change from a sales trajectory and the categories that we're looking to modify with more space are higher profit margin categories.
Okay. And you mentioned that you are expecting a promotional holiday. What's going to get the promotional environment to get better as we enter 2015? You're in more and more markets you're facing Academy, which seems to be the
source of a lot of
the pressure. Online is obviously and some of the online competition is not going away. What's going to cause it to be less promotional?
I think just having the consumer gain more confidence in what's going on. And I think that that could hopefully could start to happen next year, but I think it's all based on the consumer.
And then my final question is on the guns and ammo business. Is there anything else besides an easier comparison in the Q4 that's motivating some of your confidence in the outlook of that category?
No. Thank you very much. Okay. Thanks a lot.
Our next question is from David Magee of SunTrust Robinson Humphrey. Please go ahead.
Yes. Hi, good morning.
I just had
a couple of questions on the e commerce side. The growth has stepped down this year and although it's still rapid. Have you updated your plans either officially for us or just internally about what you think the penetration of that channel might be for you guys eventually?
We talk about that internally all the time. We haven't updated anything publicly nor on me right now. But yes, we talk about this we talk about this almost every day. We think that there continues to be obviously a very big opportunity from an omnichannel standpoint and we're taking a look at how to best do that, whether that is some of the things that we're doing with our site, what we're doing to streamline the ship from store process, whether that's continuing with our vendor direct programs. We have we talked about how we can increase that percentage every day.
Are there opportunities for you to carry vendor products that are not even offered by the vendors on their sites?
I would say that's going to be pretty remote that something that the vendor would be making that they wouldn't put on their site that they would only put on
our site. And then lastly, the is the loyalty program important to your share gain in e commerce?
We think that that is, yes. And we've made some strides in what we're doing from a loyalty program there and we're seeing increasing sales with our loyalty program online.
Okay, great. Thank you.
Sure.
Our next question is from Joe Feldman of Telsey Advisory. Please go ahead.
Yes, hi. Good morning, guys. Thanks for taking the question. I wanted to go back to the online business for a second. And wanted to better understand like what percentage of your online sales are being shipped from the stores?
And I know the buy online pickup in store is early, but similar kind of question like what percent of people are picking up at the store? And when they do, are they buying more than just what they initially bought online? I was just kind of curious about some of those two dynamics.
So the buy online, pick up in store, that's still a relatively new program. That's a pretty small percentage of our business right now. As far as ship from store, we've gotten great leverage out of from expense standpoint with our ship from store capability. And although we're not going to give you a specific number, it's a meaningful number.
Got it. And then I may have missed it and I apologize if I did, but we keep referring to the hunting category, but I recall in the past quarter last quarter anyway, you had also said excluding just the pure hunting like gun and ammo, the rest of the outdoor categories were actually pretty decent in the Q2. And I was curious if you broke that out this quarter or if you haven't, if you would, maybe talk about some of the other outdoor categories and the performance there?
Sure. So, we typically delineate the lodge hunting business and we also talk about businesses such as outdoor equipment. So, that would include things like lifestyle camping, bikes, water sports, paddle sports, etcetera. And that category, outdoor equipment, actually comp positive this quarter, did fairly well. And it was really driven by lifestyle camping and paddle sports where we did very well in Q3.
So, we're very happy with the performance of that business. We're not going to get into specific comps, but we did do very well there.
Got it. That's great. Thanks guys. I appreciate the question and good luck Joe.
Thank you.
Our next question is from Rick Nelson of Stephens. Please go ahead.
Hi, guys. This is Nick Zangler in for Rick Nelson. I just wanted to clarify. In the average store, you've increased women's and used apparel categories by just greater than 1,000 square feet. Is that right?
Yes. We took 1,000 out of golf we said. We took some space out of bikes. We took some space out of the fitness area. We haven't kind of said specifically what that was, but the women's and youth business took some space from all three of those categories.
Okay. Got it. And last quarter, you had mentioned that both these categories increased north of double digit comps. Did that continue into the Q3? Yes.
Great. And then EPS impact of promotional activity was $0.04 in the second half. Is that still looking to be the case? And is that evenly split?
Yes. I think we talked about that at the end of our Q2 call and I think that's been baked into the guidance that we have. So how that gets shaped between $3.04 we'll leave that for you all to figure that out. But I think it's about the $0.04 we talked about that hasn't changed. And as you know our guidance hasn't changed.
We actually took the bottom of our range up to $275,000,000 versus $270,000,000 and kept the range at $285,000,000 to $285,000,000
Yes. And does that I mean, obviously, you guys came in at the higher end of the range this quarter, but are you guys feeling more incrementally positive going into the Q4 given that adjustment?
I think we feel as Ed mentioned and we've all talked about, I think we feel that we are prepared for the holiday. I think we have a great marketing campaign that's out there that hopefully many of you have seen already running on TV. I think we have the assortment that our merchants have brought forward that consumers are going to look for. We're making big bets in categories such as wearables and other items that are going to be key items for us. So, I think we feel pretty good and I think you all should show I mean, I think we believe we've demonstrated by bringing the bottom of our range up that we feel very confident that we're going to be in that $275,000,000 to $285,000,000 number and I think that does demonstrate we have confidence in where the business is.
Great. And then just lastly on Field and Stream, curious are you guys advertising the Field and Stream concept in those new markets when you go out, TV advertising?
We are. We're spending some money around the grand opening. We're spending money on television and radio in those new markets.
Okay. And are you still expecting perhaps 10 to 15 stores next year?
We haven't guided for 2015. We'll talk about that in our Q4 call.
Okay. Great. Thank you
very much and good luck. Thanks. Thank you, Ennis.
Our next question is from Sam Reid of Barclays. Please go ahead.
Yes. Hi. Thanks for taking my call.
Quick question here. Now that
you guys are 10 stores in with Field and Stream, what surprised you with respect
to their performance? And I guess more importantly, I mean how has this changed kind of your perception of outdoor categories within your core stores? I think one of the things that surprised us is just the participation in those sports with the woman consumer. So, we've quickly learned that there is an opportunity there. We've explored with some categories, especially around the apparel, but also in some of the hunting categories and we've seen a pretty good response.
So, we're pleased with how the stores are performing so far. And I guess kind of one follow-up. What's your perception?
I know it's very early on, but given kind of your clout within the overall space,
I mean, what's your perception in terms of how your competitors have responded? We haven't seen any meaningful difference in our competitors as far as store count or how they're operating their stores.
Got you.
Thank you so much. I appreciate it.
Our next question is from Wayne Hood of BMO. Please go ahead.
Yes. Thanks guys. Just a quick question for you. We understand that Nike is making some changes to their MAP pricing and some seasonal goods into next year. And I'm just wondering as they kind of go down that path, does that have any impact on how you think about the business, either competitively or anything like that as they go through that?
No, we don't we'll have to wait and see, but we don't really think it's going to impact our business one way or the other. I think it will take some of the promotional activity out of the business. So it should help increase margin rates. And whether it has an impact on sales or not, we'll have to remain to see, but we think it will be positive from a margin rate standpoint.
Okay. And Andre, just a couple of questions for you. You're up against the steep 6% increase in traffic in the 4th quarter because of what you went through last year. And I'm just wondering, when you think about that 1% to 3% comp guidance, what's embedded with transaction growth in the Q4 in light of you're coming off a decline in the Q3? Yes.
So we're not going to get into the taxonomy of the traffic and our tickets and things like that. I do think I'll go back to what I just mentioned is I do believe we think our marketing programs are strong. I think we've bought against key items. I think our associates are geared up for a very strong holiday. So, I do believe we're very comfortable and we have to be very comfortable because we talked about it, about that comp range that we're talking about for Q4 and understanding what we're lapping.
We very much know what we're up against. Okay. And then finally, I'm just trying to reconcile a little bit. Inventory is up 12%, your sales are up 9%, and yet you say you feel comfortable with your inventory. Is that your comp store inventories are down?
Or how do we reconcile the delta between the 2? Yes. So if you recall, there was a prior investor that asked a question about how much of the inventory was related to Field and Stream. So, if you just look at the Dick's Sporting Goods inventory like to like, it's pretty much about 8% up year over year. So, I think we're very comfortable and we also have talked about I think Ed mentioned that our clearance inventory is at the levels that we expected it to be and very similar to where it was in Q3 last year.
So we're very confident that we're exiting we exited Q3 with our inventory where we wanted it to be. All right. Thank you so much.
Thank you. This concludes our question and answer session. I'd like to turn the conference back over to Ed Stack for any closing remarks.
Thank you. I'd like to thank everyone for joining us on our Q3 conference call and look forward to talking to everyone regarding our Q4 results. Thank you.
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