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Earnings Call: Q1 2013

May 15, 2012

Speaker 1

Good morning, and welcome to the Dick's Sporting Goods First Quarter Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in listen only mode. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Anne Marie Magilla.

Please go ahead.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Amy. Good morning, and thank you for joining us to discuss our Q1 2012 financial results. Please note that a rebroadcast of today's call will be archived on the Investor Relations portion of our website located at dicksportinggoods.com for approximately 30 days. In addition, as outlined in our press release, the dial in replay will be available for approximately 30 days. In order for us to take advantage of the Safe Harbor rules, I would like to remind you that today's discussion includes some forward looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995, which includes, but are not limited to, our views and expectations concerning our future results.

Such statements relate to future events and expectations and involve known and unknown risk and uncertainty. Our actual results or actions may differ materially from those projected in the forward looking statements. For a summary of risk factors that could cause results to differ materially from those expressed in the forward looking statements, please refer to our periodic reports filed with the SEC, including the company's annual report on Form 10 ks for the year ended January 28, 2012. We disclaim any obligation and do not intend to update these statements, except as required by the securities law. We have also included some non GAAP financial measures in our discussion today.

Our presentation of the most directly comparable financial measures calculated in accordance with generally accepted accounting principles and a related reconciliation can be found on the Investor Relations portion of our website at dicksportinggoods.com. Leading our call today will be Ed Stack, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer. Ed will review our Q1 financial and operating results, our guidance and discuss our growth strategy. Following this, Joe Schmidt, our President and Chief Operating Officer, will outline our store and e commerce development programs. After Joe's comments, Tim Coleman, our Executive Vice President of Finance and Administration and Chief Financial Officer, will provide greater detail regarding our financial results.

I will now turn it over to Ed Stack.

Speaker 3

Thank you, Ann Marie, and Thanks to all of you for joining us today. We had an exceptionally strong Q1 generating a 50% increase in earnings per diluted share and a 15.1% increase in sales year over year as operating margins expanded 168 basis points. Additionally, we maintained a healthy balance sheet while executing our stock repurchase and dividend plans, augmenting our private brands through the Top White acquisition and deploying capital for our U. K. Investment in JGB Sports.

The 15.1% increase in the Q1 was driven by the growth of our store network and by an 8.4% increase in consolidated same store sales on top of a 2.1% increase in the Q1 of last year. Same store sales in the Q1 of 2012 for Dick's Sporting Goods were up 7.3%, Gulf Galaxy up 12.6% and e commerce sales were up 33.4%. The comp growth at the Dick's stores was broad based with all 3 major categories, hardlines, apparel and footwear comping positively. Golf, team sports, athletic apparel and athletic footwear were particularly strong with the fitness category continuing to be soft. Looking ahead, our continued profitability will be fueled by our 3 growth drivers, which are expanding our store base, strengthening our e commerce business and continuing to develop our margin rate accelerators.

Regarding our store base, we opened 6 new Dick's Sporting Goods stores in the Q1. In 2012, we expect to open approximately 38 to 40 Dick's Sporting Goods stores. Looking at the longer term, we believe we have the potential to open more than 400 additional stores over the next several years, giving us approximately 900 stores in the United States. With regards to our e commerce business, which represented approximately 3% of total sales in the Q1, Same store sales increased 33% over the Q1 last year. We continue to invest in and grow this business as Joe will detail.

We will be implementing capabilities that will improve the customer experience and profitability of this business. We continue to make advancements in our margin rate accelerators, which are to increase private brand and private label penetration, migrate product mix and continue to improve inventory management. In the Q1, we augmented our private brand portfolio with the purchase of the Top Flight brand. We are successfully shifting our product mix through proven initiatives like the enhanced shops from Nike, Under Armour and The North Face and a shared service footwear deck with higher margin product increasing as a percent of sales. At the beginning of 2013, we expect to start seeing a positive impact from the system enhancements like price optimization, size and packaging optimizations that will facilitate more systemic inventory management solutions.

For the Q2 of 2012, we expect consolidated earnings per diluted share to increase by 19% to 21% to between $0.62 $0.63 compared with non GAAP consolidated earnings per diluted share of $0.52 for the same period in 2011. We expect consolidated same store sales to be positive 2% to 3% on top of a 2.5% increase in the Q2 last year. For the full year 2012, we expect consolidated earnings per diluted share to increase by 21% to 23% to between $2.45 $2.48 a share, which includes approximately $0.03 coming from the 53rd week this year. This compares to non GAAP earnings per diluted share of $2.02 in 2011. On a 52 week to 52 week comparative basis, we anticipate consolidated same store sales will increase to between 3% 4% on top of a 2% increase last year.

We generated record earnings this quarter, a 50% improvement over last year. Our balance sheet remains healthy and we continue to invest in the growth opportunities of our business. I'd also like to take this opportunity to thank all of our associates for their hard work and commitment to serving our customers. I'd now like to turn the call over to Joe. Thanks, Ed.

In the Q1 of 2012, we opened 6 new Dick's Sporting Goods stores, bringing our store count to 486 Dick's Sporting Goods Stores with 26,500,000 Square Feet and 81 Golf Galaxy Stores with 1,300,000 Square Feet. Within our stores, we have 138 shared service footwear decks, 118 Nike Fieldhouse concept shops, 52 Under Armour All American shops and 3 Under Armour blue chip shops. Our new Dick's Sporting Goods stores continue to perform well with a new store productivity of 105.8% in the Q1. The detailed calculation of new store productivity can be found in the table section of the press release we issued this morning. In total, we plan to open approximately 40 new Dick's Sporting Goods stores this year.

Approximately half of the stores are expected to be in new markets and half in existing markets. As a reminder, our leases are typically 10 years with options to renew. This year, we also plan to relocate 5 DICK'S Sporting Goods stores, which are at the end of their leases to preferred locations that we have secured. For Golf Galaxy, we plan to reposition 2 stores this fall. To support future store growth, we are on plan to open our 4th distribution center in January of 2013.

The 600,000 square foot facility will be located in Arizona and combined with our existing DC network, we will be able to support a total of 7.50 stores. With respect to our e commerce business, we are on target with piloting of ship from store capabilities in 2012. In 2013, we will begin to develop in store pickup capabilities. As we continue to invest in capabilities, site functionality and analytics, we will provide customers with enhanced shopping experiences and the opportunity to buy and receive product where, when and how they want. We will also be able to better leverage our inventory investment while improving our fulfillment time and our in stock positions.

I will now turn the call over to Tim to review our financial performance in greater detail. Thanks, Joe. Sales for the Q1 of 2012 increased by 15.1 percent to $1,300,000,000 compared with the same period a year ago. Consolidated same store sales increased 8.4%, DICK'S Sporting Goods same store sales increased 7.3%, Golf Galaxy increased 12.6%, and our e commerce business increased 33.4%. The increase in same store sales in the DICK'S Sporting Goods stores was driven by a 4% increase in sales per transaction and by a 3.3% increase in traffic.

Consolidated gross profit was $394,600,000 or 30.79 percent of sales and was 112 basis points higher than the Q1 of 2011. This increase was driven by occupancy leverage. Merchandise margin slightly declined by 8 basis points, primarily due to the clearance of select cold weather related product and to a lesser degree, the clearance of fitness equipment. We believe the margin impact for the excess cold weather related inventory is now complete and was contained within the Q1 as planned. SG and A expenses in the Q1 of 2012 were $296,100,000 representing 23.1% of sales compared with 23.68% of sales in last year's Q1.

This leverage of 58 basis points was primarily due to payroll leverage and to a lesser degree advertising. Moving to the balance sheet, we ended the Q1 of 2012 with $521,000,000 in cash and cash equivalents and with no outstanding borrowings under our $500,000,000 revolving credit facility. Last year, we ended the Q1 with $533,000,000 in cash and cash equivalents and with no outstanding borrowings under this facility.

Speaker 4

Our cash on hand at

Speaker 3

the end of the Q1 was impacted by our 1 year share repurchase program, dividend payments, the recently announced investment in UK based JGB Sports and the purchase of the top flight. With regards to the share repurchase program, in the Q1 we repurchased 2,100,000 shares of our common stock at an average cost of $49.39 per share for a total cost of approximately $104,000,000 We completed the share repurchase program yesterday. In total, we purchased approximately 4,100,000 shares of our common stock at an average cost of $49.33 per share for a total cost of approximately $200,000,000 Net capital expenditures were $33,000,000 in the Q1 of 2012 or $41,000,000 on a gross basis compared with net capital expenditures of $26,000,000 or $33,000,000 on a gross basis in the Q1 of last year. On May 7, which is in our Q2, we purchased our store support center for approximately $133,000,000 While leasing this property, we recorded the cost of this building as property and equipment and recorded a corresponding lease obligation pursuant to GAAP reporting requirements. In the Q2, our payment to purchase the building will be reflected on the balance sheet as an extinguishment of this pre existing financing lease obligation.

Going forward, we will continue to record depreciation expense, but because the debt has been eliminated, we will not incur interest expense in future quarters. This transaction was and is contemplated in our guidance. Now looking forward to our guidance for the Q2 of 2012, we anticipate same store sales to increase approximately 2% to 3%. We believe there was some pull forward to spring sales for the second from the Q2 into the Q1, particularly in categories like team sports, golf and bikes. Earnings are expected to grow by 19% to 21% or in the range of $0.62 to $0.63 per share from non GAAP earnings per diluted share of $0.52 in the Q2 of last year.

In the Q2, gross profit margin is expected to modestly increase and SG and A is expected to leverage. As I mentioned earlier, interest expense will not be incurred in the Q2 of this year as compared to the $2,700,000 incurred in the Q2 of last year due to our purchase of the store support center. The year over year decline in interest expense was already reflected in our original 2012 guidance. For the full year 2012, we anticipate consolidated same store sales to increase 3% to 4% and earnings per diluted share to grow by approximately 21% to 23% or in the range of $2.45 to $2.48 as compared to non GAAP earnings per diluted share of $2.02 in 2011. Fiscal 2012 includes the 53rd week, which we believe will add approximately $0.03 to earnings per diluted share and is contemplated in our guidance of $2.45 to $2.48 Operating margin expansion in 2012 is expected to be driven by both an increase in gross profit margin rate and expense leverage.

The gross profit margin rate is expected to increase year over year, primarily driven by merchandise margin and occupancy leverage. Merchandise margin is expected to build momentum in the second half of the year. SG and A as a percent of sales is expected to decline as compared to 2011, primarily due to lower advertising and store related expenses relative to sales year over year. This decline is expected to be partially offset by planned investments in e commerce and systems implementation. With the execution of our share purchase plan, diluted shares outstanding are expected to be approximately 126,000,000 for our full year similar to the outstanding shares in 2011.

Looking at anticipated quarterly trends, we expect that in the second and fourth quarters, earnings per diluted share will grow at a high teens to low 20s percentage rate. In the Q3, we believe the EPS growth will be in the mid to high single digits due to the following considerations. First, pre opening expenses are anticipated to be higher in the Q3 of 2012 as compared to the same quarter in 2011 since there are more new store openings planned in the 3rd and 4th quarters of 2012 as compared to 2011. 2nd, we'll be hosting the annual DICK'S Sporting Goods Open, a Champions Tour Golf Tournament in the Q3 this year. Typically, this tournament is a 2nd quarter event.

However, due to the flood damage to the Enjoy Golf Club caused from Tropical Storm Lee, the opening has been rescheduled to give the course more time to recover. As a result, the related expenses of the open will shift from the Q2 to the Q3. And lastly, we will not be anniversarying a favorable tax benefit of approximately $0.01 per share, which we benefited from in the Q3 of last year. Looking to the Q4, we anticipate the start up cost of our new distribution center will have an EPS impact of approximately $0.02 per share. Jim, majority of these expenses will be incurred in the Q4.

Also in the Q4, we expect to earn approximately $0.03 per diluted share due to the extra lease. Turning to CapEx, net capital expenditures for the full year are expected to be approximately $190,000,000 or $241,000,000 on a gross basis. Net capital expenditures for 2011 were $154,000,000 or $202,000,000 on a gross basis. The anticipated increase in capital expenditures for 20112012 is primarily a result of the new distribution center and to a lesser extent investments in new stores, vendor shops, system enhancements and e commerce. We have delivered an exceptional quarter to kick off 2012.

With our financial strength and discipline, we plan to continue to deliver shareholder value by investing in and growing our business to new stores, e commerce advancements and avenues to support continued margin expansion with inventory management, private brands and product mix shift. This concludes our prepared remarks. We would be happy to answer any questions you may have at this time.

Speaker 1

Our first question comes from Christopher Horvers at JPMorgan.

Speaker 5

Thanks and good morning. Good morning. Good morning. A lot of retailers are talking about the weather and potential pull forward and perhaps you could share how you flush that out and what your thoughts on of what was incremental to the comp in 1Q that doesn't repeat and comes out of 2Q. For what it's worth, you saw this morning the census data in your category showed a 200 basis point acceleration to 7 from 7 to 7 from 5.

So any insights there would be helpful.

Speaker 3

Well, we think that there was probably some pull forward into Q1 based on the weather that we had last year. I mean people were playing golf earlier this year. They were fishing earlier this year. The kids were out on the field playing lacrosse and baseball earlier this year. And there was we feel there was definitely some pull forward into Q1 from Q2 sales.

But can we quantify that? No, we can't quantify that. It's just a sense that we have based on how good the Q1 was and kind of those categories that were weather sensitive last year performed much better this year. With that being said, our merchants, our marketing people, the people in the stores did a great job taking full advantage of the better conditions we had this year than last year. And as we said, our comps were north of 8% this year, which we thought was pretty good.

Speaker 5

For sure. So then was there any I mean, a lot of retailers had great February and March's and then April ended up decelerating. Do you think that pull forwards some of that impacted April or is it all coming out of 2Q?

Speaker 3

We think it's coming out of we think it may be coming out of the Q2. We were very pleased with April also.

Speaker 5

And then as a follow-up, BBCore, any thoughts on how that impacted your comps overall in the Q1 and including the halo effect and how that might play out going forward?

Speaker 3

Well, it did impact our Q1. It was important, although it was not meaningful to the 8%. We're not going to give exactly what it was, but it was important, but it wasn't meaningful. It was less than 1%. And as we said in our guidance in our call last time that we thought this was a Q1 phenomenon.

Most of these bats are used for high school baseball players and it really wouldn't move into the Q2. It was primarily a Q1 opportunity.

Speaker 5

Perfect. Thanks very much.

Speaker 1

The next question comes from Michael Lasser at UBS.

Speaker 4

Good morning. Thanks a lot for taking my question. If we look back over the last couple of years, including the Q1, there's been a pretty wide variability in your comp results. How do you feel about your ability to manage, especially store labor in that environment, especially if it continues? Is it going to be a source of strain as you become a larger organization or could it actually be a source of potential benefit?

Speaker 3

We've got a what we think a very good systemic solution to the store payroll. Our mix of full time and part time associates we feel are appropriate and we can flex that payroll number as appropriate. So as business gets better, we're able to move payroll into the store to service our customers. And if the business is a little bit softer, we have the ability to move that payroll back so as to not impact our earnings negatively impact our earnings.

Speaker 4

And then on the occupancy leverage, you saw a really nice result in the first quarter. Is that how we should think about this line item moving forward? And what's the leverage point that you need is the comp point the comp level you need at this point to lever?

Speaker 3

This is Tim. On the occupancy side, we had a very good leverage because of the 8.4% comp. We feel that we need about a 3% comp these days to leverage occupancy. So we got that significant benefit because we had such a high comp in the quarter. Don't expect a triple digit basis point improvement in occupancy going forward based on where our comp guidance is at this point.

Speaker 4

Okay. And then if I could sneak one last one in on a related subject to that. Joe mentioned that you're still going after 10 year leases. Philosophically, what's the thought process there, especially with retail changing so quickly, a lot of sales are migrating online and you're seeing some of that impact yourself. Was there any thought given the possibility of going after shorter term leases?

Or as you roll out ship from store, you're not as concerned about it given that this could act as many warehouses?

Speaker 3

Well, we continue to pursue the opportunity to shorten these leases and we've had very minimal success so far. But by and large, the industry average as we get down and look at these sites, it's 10 years with the ability to re up with a number of options. So I think you can look for the 10 year lease period to be pretty consistent moving forward. And again, we'll look at those opportunities to grab a 5 year lease where we can.

Speaker 4

Great. Thank you so much.

Speaker 6

Yes.

Speaker 1

Our next question comes from Gary Volter at Credit Suisse.

Speaker 7

Thank you. First of all, congratulations on a great quarter. It's too bad the penguins can do what you guys did.

Speaker 3

Thanks, Gary.

Speaker 4

Maybe I may have missed it.

Speaker 7

Did you give the percent of private label sales that you're at now?

Speaker 3

We did not. But it for what we've said what we want to try to migrate that to over the next several years. But for competitive reasons, we haven't given what that exact number is.

Speaker 7

Okay. But can you talk like I thought the Top Flight acquisition was a great acquisition. Can you talk about your thinking on that acquisition and kind of where you're taking that business right now in terms of private label and controlled label and growth opportunities in that?

Speaker 3

We think the Top Flight acquisition was really a terrific acquisition for us. So we obviously we agree with you. And it plays across both chains. It plays across the Dick's chain and it plays across the Golf Galaxy chain. And the margin rates that we're able to get on private brand golf balls is significantly better than buying from a domestic source.

We still have we still do an awful lot of business with the domestic companies and those partners. It's just that the margin rate on the private brand golf balls are significantly higher. Probably are among the highest of anything we do in relation to the traditional brands where these margin rates are in the 2,200 to 2,500 basis point difference. So that's a huge difference and it will be positively felt at both Dick's and at Golf Galaxy.

Speaker 7

Are there other categories,

Speaker 8

I guess you're not going

Speaker 3

to tell me that you're going

Speaker 7

to do similar things as I ask it, I think I got the answer. I'll switch the topic and then I'll get off. Can you talk about the competitive environment? Obviously, you had really strong sales that flowed through to earnings. Did you see anything changing competitively?

Or was everybody just enjoying such a strong environment that you didn't see a lot of price competition?

Speaker 3

Well, we didn't see any irrational competition out there. I think everybody's business was relatively good. Our business, I think, was better than most if you compare some of the people that have reported that we compete directly with such as Golfsmith. Our golf numbers were pretty meaningfully above theirs. So I think everybody in business, I think was pretty good.

I think we did better than most.

Speaker 7

Okay. Thank you. Sure.

Speaker 1

Our next question comes from Dan Weywer at Raymond James.

Speaker 6

Thanks. Ed, you just brought up Golfsmith. I was kind of curious your thoughts on their merger in the Golf Town and how that could impact Golf Galaxy? And then also Golf Smith has been making a push into these 39,000 square foot stores, I guess, similar in size to PGA Superstore. I believe one opened so far in Nashville where you have one of the your older Golf Galaxy stores.

I was curious in relocating Golf Galaxy, you talked about a couple of locations. Is Nashville one of those stores where you feel like you have to make a change in response to what Golf Smith is doing?

Speaker 3

Well, we're not making a response to what Golf Smith or Golf Town is doing. As we take a look at our business with the Golf Galaxy, we're looking to reposition a number of the Golf Galaxy stores and they'll be in larger format stores. We've tested a few of those. We've got one here in Pittsburgh. It's done extremely well.

And as we go forward, we'll be repositioning these into larger boxes that we think will be more effective than some of the boxes we have today. I don't believe that the Gulf Town, Gulf Smith merger is going to be significantly impact our business at all. If you take a look at their results, I'm not going to get I don't think it's going to have a big impact on our business.

Speaker 6

Okay. Second question I had on the inventory per store is up about 6%, not recognized that's in line with your same store sales growth. But that's the fastest rate of inventory growth, I believe, since Q4 of 2007. With your thoughts at the rate of same store sales growth might moderate to a 3% or 4% rate for the year, would you expect your inventory per square foot to moderate as well going forward?

Speaker 3

Well, I think if you remember and I'm sure you do that we talked about the inventory being slightly elevated going forward because of the cold weather merchandise that we had left over. We felt that and as Tim indicated, the clearance activity that we also as you remember indicated would happen in the Q1 did happen. We've concluded that. And we did indicate very clearly that that inventory level would be slightly elevated as we go into the year. We expect as we come out of the Q4 that we'll have this back down to the appropriate levels because inventory that we would have to go back and buy again that was left over because of the warm winter weather, such as black ski gloves and black ski pants, which were going to be the exact same again in the Q4.

We didn't go out and flood the market and discount those. We just said, there's no issue with packing these up. They're going to be the same products we're going to sell again next year. And that's what we did. And that's a big part of what's causing this increase in inventory.

Speaker 6

Okay. So, other comments about the gross margin impact of the winter inventory. So, So we're saying that the winter the excess winter inventory will no longer have an impact on gross margin rate, but it will still stay on the balance sheet until it's sold next year?

Speaker 3

That's correct. Later this year, so into the Q4 of this year, yes.

Speaker 9

Okay, great. Thank you. Great.

Speaker 1

Your next question comes from Matthew Fassar at Goldman Sachs.

Speaker 10

Thanks a lot. Good morning. First of all, if you could quantify the impact of the cold weather clearance activity on merchandise margins in the Q1? And then I guess talk to us about the rationale for the merch margin outlook building over the course of the year?

Speaker 3

We won't give exactly what that was, but it was a big part of the margin erosion that we incurred in this quarter. And we feel that this is behind us now. The merchandise that we do have left over going into the Q4, we don't think is going to have we're not going to need to discount that. It's very basic cold weather product. And as we take a look at continuing to migrate our merchandise mix to higher margin rate products such as footwear, apparel.

We think the NFL Jerseys for the Q3 are going to be very helpful to the margin rate. And as we go into the Q4, we feel that this is a one time blip in margin rate activity, which I think we called out.

Speaker 11

And when you

Speaker 10

talk about, we said the majority of the margin erosion, not to be nitpicky

Speaker 3

at all, but I think

Speaker 10

you said merch margins down percent, presumably the clearance 8 basis points rather. Presumably the clearance activity was greater than an 8 basis point impact? Yes, absolutely. Okay. Secondly, you have a lot of you have really an evolving e commerce business.

I know some of that relates to the evolution of your agreement with GSI into your own capabilities. Can you talk to us about how your evolving capabilities in e commerce and the way the mix of that business is going to evolve impacts the profitability of that business as it grows for you?

Speaker 3

Well, I think we talked about that we had a we renegotiated with GSI the fee structure. So as we go forward that fee structure as a percent of sales comes down. And also we feel are in the process of doing this that we're migrating sales to more higher margin rate sales of apparel and footwear. We're seeing great growth in those areas, which are the mix of that business is helping the profitability pretty significantly and we think that will continue going forward.

Speaker 10

Is there a structural difference in the terms of your deal with GSI or for other reasons the profitability of goods when it's shipped by them versus shipped to you versus in store pickup? Is there kind of a stratification there that we should be thinking about?

Speaker 3

Sure. As more of the distribution or the fulfillment to the consumer, the less of it that's done by GSI, the more profitable it is. So ship from store or in store pickup is meaningfully, meaningfully more and vendor direct is meaningfully more profitable than shipping out of GSI's warehouse.

Speaker 10

Got it. And then finally, you had spoken about the expectation of some inflation driven by materials costs. So what much of the apparel complex saw last year, you thought you'd see as we went through 2012. Any update on whether that is in fact transpiring, how the pass through is going, etcetera?

Speaker 3

It is. So it's we have seen that. We are managing through that as you can see And our merchants and store personnel, everybody, we've done a very good job of managing through that. So we don't think it's going to have any meaningful impact.

Speaker 12

Got

Speaker 10

it. Thank you so much. Sure.

Speaker 1

Our next question comes from Sean Naughton at Piper Jaffray.

Speaker 9

Hi, thanks for taking the question. Just in terms of the real estate pipeline, can you remind us how long it typically takes you to get into a new location? And then maybe any sort of update on the current real estate development environment in key states where you feel like you may be underpenetrated compared to some of your peers?

Speaker 10

Sure.

Speaker 3

The pipeline really is dependent upon whether or not it's a new build versus a reconstruction. And it can vary anywhere from 12 to 18 months. If it's an existing site, if we're taking over, for an example, a Kmart site, linens, a Best Buy thing, something of that nature, we can generally turn that building in less than a year. If it's ground up construction, it typically takes 12 to 18 months depending upon the size of the building. As far as the landscape is concerned, there still is very limited new development out there.

We continue to look at opportunities such as Kmart, Sears, Best Buy, linens, empty box opportunities like those retailers. And we think that's really going to continue for the next couple of years.

Speaker 9

Okay, that's helpful. And then I guess just secondly then, can you talk about further uses of cash? It looks like you have about $300,000,000 in the balance sheet today. What do you think the appropriate level is to run the business? And then maybe along those lines, could you discuss some of the rationale and how much maybe of management time is going to be spent in the UK?

Speaker 3

It is as far as the appropriate amount of cash, we feel that we've spent we've made the investments we're probably going to make through the balance of the year. There may be a few small insignificant uses of cash. But for the most part, we feel that we've used that we put our cash to work for the balance of the year and we'll reassess that as we get into next fiscal year. As far as management's time in the U. K, we've provided the JGB Group with the capital that they need to continue the business.

Adidas, which has been announced, has also helped with the £15,000,000 investment in JJB. We have great confidence in the management team at JJB and don't feel that there will be a significant amount of a significant requirement of our management's team in this endeavor. We will support them whenever however they need it, but we'll be spending we'll continue to spend 90% of our time here in the United States.

Speaker 9

Okay, great. And then just lastly, any update on the outdoor categories? I know that was a little bit of a hiccup in Q2 last year. How do you feel like that business is tracking right now? Thanks.

Speaker 3

That business is tracking extremely well. And in the vast majority of the outdoor categories, we are comping above the company average. So it's doing very well.

Speaker 9

That's all I can say in the quarter.

Speaker 3

Thank you.

Speaker 1

Our next question comes from Robbie Ohmes at Bank of America Merrill Lynch.

Speaker 13

Good morning, guys.

Speaker 3

Good morning, Robbie.

Speaker 13

Just a couple of quick follow-up questions. The first one, Ed, would be the could you talk about the footwear product outlook and maybe about how the price increases, I know you had mentioned earlier in the quarter at our conference that the price increases are working. Is that still happening? And then also as you get into July, August here, how do the quantities of the Flyknit and the Nike Plus basketball sneaker work and your thoughts on whether that could be meaningful to the category or not? And then I have a follow-up question after that.

Speaker 3

Yes. Our footwear business continues to perform extremely well as we called it out. It was one of the better performing categories that we had. The technology that is coming out in footwear continues to help drive the business. Our partnerships with Nike, with Brooks, with ASICS,

Speaker 14

a number

Speaker 3

of other brands that they continue to bring out new products that's been very well accepted by the consumer. And we expect our footwear business to continue to move in the same direction it has.

Speaker 13

And can you comment specifically on the Flyknit and the new Nike Plus and whether you guys will be involved in those product launches?

Speaker 3

We're enthusiastic about those, but it's too early to really make any real comments.

Speaker 13

And then the other question I had just a follow-up on the JJB Sports Investment. What is can you give us the broader strategy that you guys are thinking of? What is in your head about whether you would fully consolidate that out in, I guess, it's I think it's Q1 of 2014. What are you looking to see happen at JJB Sports over the next year and a half?

Speaker 3

Well, we expect them to be able to turn the business around. We feel that the UK is a large market. It's a $9,500,000,000 market and JAB doesn't have it has about maybe 6%, 7% of that market share. So we think that there's a big opportunity. The marketplace is very competitive and JGB, their previous management team didn't do a very good job of running that business.

We think there is an opportunity for JJB to turn this business around. We understand and we clearly communicated that this is a high risk, very high reward investment. But as we've spent time with the group there, understanding what their strategy is and what we can bring to the party, so to speak, we think that this is a very good investment and we expect it to work out well for us.

Speaker 13

Great. Thanks very much.

Speaker 1

Our next question comes from Sam Poser with Stern AG.

Speaker 14

Good morning. Thank you for taking my question. Just a question on your store opening plans. You talked about 900 stores. Can you give us an idea of the timeframe of getting there a little more specifically?

Speaker 3

Well, it will how long it will take us to do approximately 40 stores a year. So if the real estate pipeline improves, I mean, we can open up more stores and it'll take us less time. Otherwise, it's kind of roughly 40 stores a year, maybe 45. Nothing is the only thing that's constraining our growth, it's not distribution capabilities, it's not management strength, it's not capital, it's really the real estate pipeline. And the one thing we've worked very hard at is to not compromise our real estate strategy.

And so we want to make sure we've got the right stores in the right location. And if that means it takes a little longer, then it takes a little longer.

Speaker 14

Thank you. And then you talked you saved money, you've leveraged on store costs, I guess. Does that have to do with the payroll optimization and so on? And isn't yours you talked about raising your staffing when business is strong and lowering it when it isn't. How much I mean, how much is staffing becomes almost a self fulfilling process see though, when you if business picks up, you add staff, it gets better versus it being low and not doing as much business?

Speaker 3

I'm not really sure I understand the question, Sam. If you're not doing as much business, there's not as many customers in, We don't schedule as many part timers to come in. If business is good, we know that we've got more customers in the store. We bring more part time help in to assist those customers. I'm not sure what

Speaker 14

All right. Let me re ask if I may. Have you adjusted sort of the minimum level of staffing in your stores and to your stores are absolutely beautiful stores, but sometimes I

Speaker 12

found that the staffing levels don't quite live

Speaker 14

up to how nice the stores look, who are busy or not busy. Have you raised the minimum staffing levels in the stores to make sure that everybody gets taken care of on the manner by which you feel they should?

Speaker 3

We feel that we have the appropriate level of staffing in our stores to provide the appropriate level of service to our customers. And that has been no change to that. We survey our customers many times during the year and keep an eye on how they view our customer service. And our customer service scores have actually gone up recently, as we've done a better job of training, a better job of hiring our personnel, but we have not increased or decreased the level of service or level of payroll dollars we have in the store.

Speaker 14

Thank you very much. Continued success.

Speaker 12

Thanks.

Speaker 1

The next question comes from Keith McShane at Citi Investment Research.

Speaker 15

Thank you. Good morning. I was wondering if this is a follow-up to another question I was asked earlier. If you could remind us of some of the dynamics that you're going up against in Q2 and Q3 from last year, and what kind of changes can we expect to see in your Lodge business in the upcoming quarters versus maybe what happened last year when you lost some footing in that category?

Speaker 3

Well, we did. We were very clear and upfront saying that we stubbed our toe on our outdoor business. We moved marketing dollars out of that category and felt the consequences of it, thought that we could move marketing dollars out of that category into other areas of the business and we got hurt in the outdoor category. We have not done that and are not going to do that this year and it was very helpful in the Q1. We've also made some changes to our management in the outdoor category and put a merchant in charge of the outdoor camp water sports category who is really doing an excellent job and we expect that business to improve significantly through the balance of the year and into next year.

So we're pretty optimistic about it. Like we said, all of our businesses right now we're doing pretty well with the exception of the fitness category. And the fitness category is primarily attributable to the big machine. So the strength machines, the cardios, ellipticals, those that type of exercise has moved to foam rollers, stretch band, the resistance bands, kettlebells. So we are working through that.

So fitness remains to be soft, but the rest of the business, including the Lodge is really quite good.

Speaker 15

Okay, great. Thank you. And then my second question was just on the systems implementations that you're putting into place. I think there are 4 different systems that you're updating or implementing with the expectation that will contribute to gross margins next year. And I just wondered if you could update us where you are in the process, if it's on schedule or ahead of schedule, any update there would be great.

Speaker 3

Kate, this is Joe. We're still in the implementation and testing phase of those systems right now. We'll start to see some very small benefits in Q4 of this year, but really look for those benefits to be in 2013.

Speaker 15

Okay. Thank you. You bet.

Speaker 1

The next question comes from Camilo Lyon at Canaccord Genuity.

Speaker 8

Thanks. Good morning, everyone. I was hoping to get a little bit more color on your plans for the shop in shops, specifically around Nike and Under Armour and how you plan to grow those this year?

Speaker 3

We plan to continue to grow those. Nike will probably add approximately 50 of those this year. Under Armour will probably grow those at about an additional 80 stores. And we'll also be continuing to add The North Face shops, which have been very productive also for us.

Speaker 8

And can you talk about the timing of when you expect to open up those additional 80 Under Armour stores, because I believe you opened up the initial 5th year or so in Q3 of last year?

Speaker 3

Yes. They'll be up basically throughout the year with very few in the Q4. We don't do a whole lot in the Q4.

Speaker 8

Got it. And if you could also just share maybe some of the initial sales increases and the sales that you are seeing from those shop in shops. Obviously, they're very accretive to top line and to gross margin as you stated in the past. But maybe any sort of financial numbers or quantitative numbers you could provide around that would be appreciated.

Speaker 3

Yes. From a competitive standpoint, we won't do that. But as you could expect, they are as you could expect, because we continue to invest in them as does Nike Under Armour and The North Face continue to invest in them. They're very beneficial to both our business and Nike Under Armour and The North Face's business.

Speaker 8

Got it. And then just a final question on that. Is the sales lift that you do see in those job ish jobs just a 1 year phenomenon? Or do those continue that sales lift continue into the years 2, 3 and going forward?

Speaker 3

We continue to see a sales lift going forward.

Speaker 8

Great. Well, good luck in the second quarter and the rest of the year.

Speaker 3

Thank you. Our

Speaker 1

next question comes from Eric Tracy at Janney Capital Markets.

Speaker 12

Thanks. Good morning. If I could just a couple of follow ups as well. You obviously got an easier compare from a weather perspective for this fall holiday. But can you maybe talk to how you're planning the sort of cold weather product within apparel and footwear?

I know you've got some carryover that you're continuing, but maybe just speak to the open to buy dollars as well as your ability to chase if in fact the season does progress nicely?

Speaker 3

Well, we had indicated that we've the cleanup that we had to do with that merchandise that wasn't going forward has been completed in the Q1, so that has no impact going forward. We've indicated that we do have some product that is very basic winter merchandise that we carried over and will continue to carry over into the Q4 of this year. We feel that there is little or no margin impact of that product. We did have a we were impacted by the warm weather this past winter. The Q1 was better this year because of the weather.

So the weather hurt us in the Q4. It helped us in the Q1. If that if we do get a more traditional winter this next year, we do have the ability to chase product. We have partnership orders with a number of the vendors that we do business with and we'll be able to chase that product and optimize sales.

Speaker 12

And do you feel like the vendors, say, the Columbia's, The North Face's are because it seems like they've been pretty conservative in terms of their inventory positions. Do you feel like that they are positioned enough to sort of chase with you?

Speaker 3

We feel that the vendors that we want to be in a position to chase product with, we are in a position to chase product with, yes.

Speaker 12

Okay. Fair enough. Thanks. And then maybe just a follow-up again with respect to the price increases that you've seen from some of the key vendors, Nike, Under Armour really hitting the string predominantly within the footwear category to a less degree to apparel. Just again your sense of clearly comps coming through, your sales per transaction up, but are you able you're probably not going to be able to, but to quantify what that contribution from the incremental pricing was to the comp and then how you think about it playing out for the balance of the year?

Speaker 3

So we're not going to be able to quantify that, but we've seen for the most part, we've seen little price resistance. I think I said in a question at the last call that there had been some specific items that prices had hit a when the price increase had gone into effect, it did have an impact on some specific items. But overall, it hasn't been very impactful.

Speaker 12

Okay, great. Thanks guys. Best of luck.

Speaker 3

Thank you.

Speaker 1

Our next question comes from Michael Baker at Deutsche Bank.

Speaker 4

Thanks guys. I just wanted to ask a little bit more on the trend through the quarter. You said April was good and saw how that compared to the previous months. And then I guess the follow on to that is if April was good, why are we expecting such a drop off in the second quarter is part of it. I think your comparisons got tougher in June July.

Is it sort of just anticipating those tougher comparisons of wanting to stay a little bit conservative? Or is it something else that we should note?

Speaker 3

Well, as I said, I think we moved business from the first Q2 last year into the Q1 of this year. April was good. There was a shift in Easter earlier, which is usually a bit better for us. But even through April last year wasn't great and we did very well in this Q1. And we'd be naive to think that because people were playing golf 6 weeks earlier just to pick a number, roughly 6 weeks earlier this year playing some meaningful golf 4 to 6 weeks earlier this year than they were last year, we'd be naive to think that that wasn't going to impact sales in the Q2.

So are we being conservative? I'm not sure we're being conservative. We're being realistic.

Speaker 4

So have you already seen that drop off or already start to occur in May, I guess?

Speaker 3

Well, we never talked about what's happening in a quarter as it's happening, which is consistent with our practice over the last 10 years, but we are comfortable with the guidance that we've provided.

Speaker 4

Okay. Two more quick thoughts. One, can you talk to us about the lacrosse business? I know you put some emphasis there, but some of the data I have on lacrosse from the National Sporting Goods Association has it about a $40,000,000 business growing about 10% a year. How meaningful can that actually be to your long term comps?

And then one last question if I could. Now that you've gone through your entire buyback plan, but with plenty of cash, any thoughts of re upping on that? Thanks.

Speaker 3

First of all, on the lacrosse piece, we define the lacrosse business as bigger than $40,000,000 So our we think this can be this is becoming meaningful to us and we believe it will become even more meaningful to us. But I wouldn't look at the La Crosse market as a $40,000,000 market. It's bigger than that.

Speaker 4

So what do you have a number on the market, not necessarily your share because that might be proprietary, but how you think of the total La Crosse market?

Speaker 3

I don't, but I can tell you that $40,000,000 is not right.

Speaker 4

Okay.

Speaker 3

Just based on our business, dollars 40,000,000 is not right. And as far as the continued buyback, we have completed the buyback program. We indicated that this was a one time buyback because of some unusually large amount of options that will be expiring in 2013. We've also indicated that we've kind of put the cash to work this year that we're going to. There'll be nothing meaningful.

There will probably be nothing meaningful the balance of the year. If something kind of shows up on our doorstep, we will take a look at it, but we don't expect anything meaningful through the balance of the year, which would mean that there's no additional buyback coming through the balance of the year either.

Speaker 4

Okay. Fair enough. Thank you.

Speaker 3

Sure.

Speaker 1

The next question comes from Matt Niemeyer at Wells Fargo.

Speaker 15

Hi, it's Kate Lent in for Matt Niemeyer. First, just wanted to follow-up on real estate. I was wondering if you guys would consider a smaller box depending on the real estate that's available. And if you have any plans to test the smaller format, particularly given the really strong growth you've been seeing in e commerce?

Speaker 3

Go ahead, Joe. Yes. As far as the smaller box, we have looked at some smaller box opportunities. In fact, over the last couple of years, we have opened some smaller boxes and really it's dependent upon the marketplace. As we look at some of these smaller towns with smaller populations, we've opened some stores that roughly are 35000, 40000 square feet, which is about 10000 to 15000 square feet smaller than our prototype store of about 50000 square feet.

So we have opened some smaller stores. Those stores have done pretty well. We're happy with the results. We continue to look at those opportunities across the country as we fill out our real estate portfolio. As far as anything really smaller just because of the e com business, we're not looking to downsize the size of our typical prototype store, which again is about 50,000 square feet.

Speaker 16

What I'd like to add

Speaker 3

to that is that there's I think there's a misconception in retail today that whatever a retailer's box is, it's too big based on what's happened with Best Buy. And I think Best Buy is a very good company and I think Best Buy is going to do quite well. But Best Buy encountered some issues that are not the same as our business. Best Buy had some categories of products that they sold that a technology eliminated or significantly reduced how that product was sold, music and movies, if you will. There is no we see nothing on the horizon that is going to replace baseball gloves or technology that's going to replace baseball gloves, baseball bats, golf clubs, athletic shoes.

And those products will be sold somewhere in the state that they are today. There's no technology that's going to alter those. So I think there's a misconception out there that whatever size the retailer's box is, it needs to be smaller or there needs to be fewer of them based on what's happened with Best Buy. And I think you've got to look deeper under the story of what happened to Best Buy and not apply those thoughts to all retailers.

Speaker 15

Okay. That's helpful. I think I was more talking about the consumer purchases shifting from offline to online, but I definitely see your point about Best Buy. And this is a quick follow-up on the outdoor category. I was wondering if you could talk about how your hunting and shooting business performed in the quarter and whether or not you think you're going to face any issues from some potential supply constraints in that category?

Speaker 3

We haven't seen supply constraints in that category, although we are somewhat concerned about it and that's part of the inventory, the increase in inventory we have. Those categories are carrying a bit more inventory because we are concerned about that. That business continues to do very well and we expect to continue to do very well for the balance of the year for two reasons. The business environment is good for that product and we were not very good with that product last year and we've made the appropriate improvements.

Speaker 15

That's helpful. Thank you so much.

Speaker 1

Next question comes from Sean McGowan at Needham and Company.

Speaker 4

Thanks. Two questions. One, can you talk about the extent to which the improvement in golf you think is just weather? Or is there a lot more going on there, people feel more comfortable about spending on equipment? And then a quick question for Tim.

Is the tax rate we see in the Q1 the best indication of what we'd have for the full year? Thanks.

Speaker 3

Sure. So from a golf standpoint, we think there's 3 things happening with Golf. So the weather in the Q1 was definitely beneficial to our Golf business. 2nd, we think that from an economic standpoint, things are a little bit better and some people have postponed the purchase of golf product and they're now kind of because they're feeling a bit better, they've started to spend on golf product. And then also the technologies that are out there from a golf standpoint have been very helpful.

What Taylor Made did with the not only with the R11S, but the Rocket Balls promotion, what's going on in golf ball technology, what Titleist has done with the redoing the AP2s, the new PING product out there. There's some technology out there from a golf standpoint that's very good. Along with footwear, the lightweight, more casual, athletically inspired footwear from a golf standpoint has been really very good. So there's a number of things that are working in golf technology, product, weather and the economy. Thank you.

And Sean, assume a 39% tax rate for the year. Great. Thank you.

Speaker 1

Next question comes from John Zalides at Buckingham Research Group.

Speaker 11

Hey guys, good morning.

Speaker 6

Hi. How are you doing?

Speaker 11

Hi. Two quick questions. One, you mentioned that the breakout of new markets versus existing markets for new stores this year is about fifty-fifty, but you also highlighted the very strong performance of the new stores. Is there any meaningful difference on the revenues you see out of the gate depending on whether it's an existing or new market? And then my second question is on the Internet business over time.

Do you see additional entrance into that category, primarily Amazon affecting the premium element that you're involved with much? Thank you.

Speaker 3

I'll start with the new store question. As far as new stores in new markets versus existing markets, we're not seeing anything materially different in how those stores perform. You want to take? Yes. And from an Amazon standpoint, we certainly keep an eye on what Amazon is doing.

But from a premium standpoint, which is more or we a bit more where we play in kind of the better and best products, they don't have access to a lot of that product. Nike doesn't sell them on a direct basis. Under Armour doesn't sell them on a direct basis. So some of that premium product, they don't have access to.

Speaker 11

Okay, great. So that makes it more defensible for Dick's. Do you think is it surprising to you internally that the stores in new markets do just the same as the stores in existing markets? Because I find that a bit odd.

Speaker 3

Actually, it doesn't. So that in new markets, we're not competing with ourselves and we feel the toughest competitor we have is ourselves. So we're not sharing that business with ourselves. And we think that the national advertising that we do with ESPN, the Golf Channel and some other partners has really helped broaden our name recognition and our brand image, so that when we are coming to a new market, people are pretty enthusiastic to have a store. I've had a number of people that I've met at conferences around town and they'll say, when are we going to get a Dick's store?

So when we do open a store, there's some brand recognition that we didn't have before we started this campaign a couple of years ago.

Speaker 11

Well, that makes sense. Thanks a lot and good luck. Thanks.

Speaker 1

The next question comes from Paul Swinon at Morningstar.

Speaker 7

Good morning and thanks for the patience taking all the questions.

Speaker 3

Sure.

Speaker 7

I guess I'd like to follow-up on the e commerce and store size question since I thought it was interesting one analyst asked about the stores getting smaller. At the same time, you commented that the Golf Galaxy stores are testing some larger concept stores. What are you filling the store with incrementally? Is it just more assortment in the same brands, in other words deepening with some brands? Or is it really a broader assortment of SKUs and offering more choice even broader category wise?

Speaker 3

Well, there's a couple of things. So part of it what's very important in golf today is the fitting process and coming in and being fitted to make sure that you've got the right driver, the right set of irons, the right analysis of gapping of your wedges and distances. So that space is being devoted to more fitting in services around those categories to make sure that your driver, you've got the right launch angle, spin rate, all of these things that really do have a pretty meaningful impact on how far the ball travels. From an iron standpoint, making sure that you've got the right irons, the right loft and lie on your irons. Another aspect of our so that's a big part of this.

Another important aspect of this is we'll be offering a much broader and more complete apparel assortment. Golf apparel is becoming much more important than it has been in the past. It's growing as a percent of the business, which will also help the profitability of that business.

Speaker 7

Okay, great. Thanks for that. And then also on the your comments on big ticket fitness not selling as well. I guess I was thinking that as the economy picked up and same store sales picked up, big ticket would start to come back a little bit. Do you think some of that is due to the weather?

In other words, people get outside, they don't need to go on a treadmill or an indoor cycle? Or is that just a long term industry trend? Or do you think it's something you did in the merchandise mix that you could fix?

Speaker 3

Well, I think there is some weather impact of that, although we are seeing a very fundamental shift in how people exercise that there is different ways to do cardio today. And it's not just on a treadmill or an elliptical machine or a bike. People doing cardio through boxing do through use of medicine ball, through the whole CrossFit craze that's going on out there. So there's a fundamental shift in how people work out and people are starting to realize and there's a lot of noise out there that to just do cardio, to just do treadmill work is really not you need more than that. You need that strength, the strength workout, you need the flexibility workout and you need the cardio workout.

And there's a number of ways to get cardio without a treadmill. So there's a we believe there's a fundamental shift in how people are working out that's not good for the treadmill and elliptical and even the big weight machine workouts. We've seen a big increase in our sales of resistance bands, medicine balls, physio balls, all of those types of products. And although the average unit sale is less, the profit margins on those categories are significantly better. And I kind of just directionally look at a 30% margin versus a 50% margin, so roughly 2,000 basis points difference.

So as we cycle through this and we start to then be able to grow the fitness business again because of these other categories, our margin rates will move up significantly.

Speaker 7

Okay, fascinating. Thanks for that and best of luck.

Speaker 3

Thank you.

Speaker 1

The next question is from David Magee at SunTrust Robinson Humphrey.

Speaker 12

Yes, hi. Thank you. Just a couple of follow ups. One, you had mentioned earlier the relative margins on e commerce depending on how you fulfill the product. Can you talk about where you see that category going relative to the retail stores and whether you're seeing any early signs of cannibalization with certain stores?

Speaker 3

We're not seeing any signs of cannibalization. We really feel that we believe in the idea of the omni channel experience that we don't really care where that market share comes from in store or online. And actually, when you get a customer that buys online and in store, they actually buy a lot more product from you in both places. So we're not seeing any cannibalization. And based on that and we know and we've indicated that the weather was helpful to us in the Q1.

Based on our Q1 results, you can see that there would you would assume there's little or no cannibalization.

Speaker 12

And being agnostic on the channel, I would assume you would expect margins to be similar over time?

Speaker 3

Over time, yes. We've indicated that an e commerce sale today is less profitable than an in store sale, but we're moving in that direction and we suspect over time that we'll be ambivalent as to where that comes from.

Speaker 12

Thanks, Ed. And then secondly, you talked about the enthusiasm on footwear, what you see there in terms of the fashion side of things. Steve, I would assume you feel the same way about apparel and what you see sort of in the second half of this year on the fashion?

Speaker 3

We see apparel doing very well also. But if I indicated fashion, I didn't mean to. But we're seeing our growth in the business is primarily out of the technical side of footwear. So technical running, technical basketball shoes, it's not the only component of footwear that I would say is fashion that we're doing very well in is the free shoe. We think the lightweight shoes that are technical are doing very well.

We think from an apparel standpoint, the technical products that have been broadened out into color are doing very well, but they're still technically paced.

Speaker 12

Great. Thank you. Sure.

Speaker 1

The next question comes from Peter Benedict at Robert Baird.

Speaker 12

Hey, guys. Most of the questions have obviously been asked

Speaker 13

here, but just wanted to circle back

Speaker 12

to the margin accelerators, particularly on the systems front. Could you guys help us maybe rank order the timing and the magnitude of impact from some of the systems related initiatives you have on tap? I mean, on our notes, we've got the merchandise sizing and packaging optimization as 1, price optimization as another and then labor scheduling. I understand generally kind of 2012 roll out, 2013 benefits, but can you give us maybe a little more granularity around that and maybe rank which are the most impactful that we should expect over the next several quarters? Thanks.

Speaker 3

I think the way you need to think about the implementation process is the combination of the implementation of the systems and how they collectively work together to bring science to the art is the thing that we are most confident of. So as we move forward and we get through the 2012 implementation process, as Joe mentioned earlier, for those 2 first two that you mentioned in particular, that's when we will see some light benefit in 2012 near the end of the year, but more substantial benefit in 2013. What we won't do yet is quantify what we believe the basis point benefit from each of those systems will be.

Speaker 12

Okay, fair enough. Thanks, Tim.

Speaker 1

The next question comes from Joe Feldman at Telsey Advisory Group.

Speaker 12

Yes. Hi, guys. Good morning and congratulations on the quarter. Similarly, most of mine were answered asked, but I did want to go back to the shop in shops for a minute. I know you don't want to give too much detail on the metrics, but we were just kind of curious for the ones that have been open now for a year or so, for the ones that have been open now for a year or so, are you still seeing good comp performance?

Is it trending I guess in line with the plan that you would have? Or is it helping to continue to drive traffic? Or any more color you can give us around that?

Speaker 3

It's they're continuing to comp positively. DICK'S, NIKE, Under Armour, North Face are all very pleased with the performance that we've had. They are at or exceeding plan and we were pretty optimistic about what benefit these would provide us. So we're very pleased with these and continue to be so.

Speaker 12

Got it. That's good to hear. Thanks guys. I won't ask any others.

Speaker 3

No problem. Thank you.

Speaker 1

Question comes from Joseph Edelstein at Stephens Inc.

Speaker 16

Good morning and thanks for taking my question. Sure. Just like to follow-up on the e commerce margins. I believe last quarter you said that you were on a path of roughly 18 months before you could reach the store level margins. Are we on track for that timing?

Speaker 3

I'm not sure we quantified an 18 month timeframe, but we've said over a reasonable period of time, we feel that we'll be ambivalent as to where a sale comes from. But I'm not sure that we identified 18 months.

Speaker 16

Okay. And then just one other question. I know you said that the VB core bats were only a small component of the overall comp. But I'm curious to know how the sale of those bats performed against the plan. And really did you have a similar kind of experience that you saw to last year in California?

Or do you think you were actually able to perform better in that particular category?

Speaker 3

Well, we were very pleased with the results and it's not over with yet, although it's got a much smaller impact in Q2. But we were very close to our plan. It was very positive for the baseball business and it was very helpful to the overall business.

Speaker 16

Great. And thanks for taking my question.

Speaker 3

Sure.

Speaker 1

This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Ed Stack for any closing remarks.

Speaker 3

I'd like to thank everyone for joining us on our Q1 earnings call, and we look forward to talking to everybody again in a couple of months. Thank you.

Speaker 1

The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's event. You may now disconnect.

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