Earnings Call: Q2 2020

Oct 30, 2019

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by, and welcome to the Dynatrace Second Quarter 2020 Earnings Conference Call. At this time Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today. Mr. Michael Bowen, Investor Relations. Please go ahead. Thank you, operator. Good afternoon. Thank you for joining us today to review Dynatrace's second quarter fiscal 2020 results. With me on the call today are John Van Sickland, Chief Executive Officer and Kevin Barnes, Chief Financial Officer. After prepared remarks, we will open up the call for a question and answer session. Before we start, I'd like to draw your attention to the Safe Harbor statement included in today's press release. During this call, we'll make statements related our business that may be considered forward looking within the meaning of Section 27A of the Securities Exchange Act of 1933. As amended and Section 21E of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 as amended. All statements other than statements of historical fact are forward looking statements, including statements regarding management's expectations of future, financial and operational performance and operational expenditures, expected growth and business outlook including our financial guidance for the 3rd fiscal quarter full year 2020. Forward looking statements reflect our views only as of today, And except as required by law, we undertake no obligation to update or revise these forward looking statements. Please refer to the cautionary language in today's press release, into our Form 10Q, which is filed with the SEC on September 5, 2019, and our other SEC filings for a discussion of the risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from expectations. During the course of today's call, we'll refer to certain non GAAP financial measures as defined by Regulation G. The GAAP financial measure most directly comparable to each non GAAP financial measure used or discussed and a reconciliation of the differences between each non GAAP financial and the comparable GAAP financial measure can be found within our 2nd fiscal quarter 2020 earnings press release in the Investor Relations section of our website at dynastrace.com. With that, I'd like to turn the call over to our Chief Executive Officer, John Van Sicklin, John? Thanks, Michael. And I'd like to start by thanking all of you for joining us today. We are very pleased with the company's performance in the second quarter, which resulted in financial results that were better than our top line and bottom line guidance. I'm especially pleased that ARR increased by a robust 44% year on year to $471,000,000. With our new Dynatrace platform now making up 80% of total ARR, up from 75% a quarter ago. Fueled by continued strong growth in ARR, our subscription plus services revenue, what we see as the best measure of growth on our P and L. Increased by 37% year over year, up from 36% last quarter. As we look ahead, we remain optimistic about the business outlook as our new Dynatrace platform continues to be adopted by a growing number of new enterprise customers, and each quarter we are proving line guidance that Kevin will detail in a few minutes. We are also proud that our rapid growth is complemented by strong operating margins. Not only did our top line results exceed our Q2 guidance, our bottom line delivered stronger than expected results as well. We run a very efficient business with gross margin at 83% and EBITDA at 25%. Continue to be cash flow positive on an operating basis, while investing across the board and growth. As we've said before, believe in running a balanced business, a unique combination of growth and profitability at scale. We believe this balance, combined with our focus on investing aggressively in commercial expansion and continuous innovation provides Dynatrace with attractive durability over the long term. Let me now turn to 4 major advancements made in our fiscal customer net expansion, what's there on our new Dynatrace platform, continued progress moving classic customers to Dynatrace, And finally, innovation highlights around platform and TAM expansion. I'll take each of these in order starting with business from new customers. Once again, during the quarter, over 200 new customers have joined the Dynatrace platform family. We are now up to 1828 customers on the new platform, an increase of 250 from a quarter ago, and more than double from a year ago. Consistent with prior quarters, the majority of these customers continue to be net new logos to our business nearly every new customer win is precipitated by the realization that their cloud program is disrupting their ability to keep up with the accelerating complexity of the ecosystem supporting their digital transformation. More and more run the business applications are being deployed into the enterprise cloud while visibility and situational awareness are declining. To regain control and bridge the complexity gap more and more enterprises are finding us through word-of-mouth or via our frictionless pretrial. For example, a major insurer in the UK has been in the process of digital transformation. They are leveraging a multi cloud environment that includes new go to market customer applications. After looking at a number of cloud monitoring solutions, the insurer selected Dynatrace as they determined it was the only platform that could show them the cost of outages in the context of application performance. And have digredations in performance impacted their call center operations. During their proof of concept, something we do with all new customers demonstrate the Dynatrace difference. They discovered the power of Dynatrace's explainable AI engine, Davis, which continually learns what normal performance is, processing billions of dependencies in real time to serve up precise answers we're beyond their team's ability to quickly identify. Davis's ability to provide precise root cause problem identification for faster decision making, greater optimization of IT resources, and better business outcomes led to the selection of the Dynatrace software intelligence platform. Once customers are on the new Dynatrace platform, we continue to see rapid expansion, which is evidenced by the rapid growth in This is the 6th straight quarter we've exceeded this mark. As we are still in the early innings of Dynatrace adoption, Most of our expansion is driven by customers deploying our platform into new application stacks. The automatic continues discovery and instrumentation. The automatic self adjusting baselines. The automatic problem determination prioritized by business impact all contribute to rapid rollout and high value for low effort economics our customers enjoy. This is something that we expect to continue benefiting from in the foreseeable future as we barely scratched the surface of cloud application expansion. In addition, we are also beginning to see increased adoption of additional platform modules as customers recognize the power of our broader platform capabilities. Let me share an example of one of the many meaningful customer expansions during the quarter. A large US based consumer products company that completed a 7 figure expansion just 5 months after their initial land purchase. Of the Dynatrace platform. After a bad experience with the previous supplier, a Gen 2 player who missed the market transition to the enterprise cloud, The company acquired its initial licenses for Dynatrace in the second quarter of this calendar year for an initial set of applications running in Azure. This first purchase was to prove the value they saw on Dynatrace in the proof of concept and to test our digital experience module, for mobile and web use in production. 5 months later, after a very successful initial rollout, The customer completed a 7 figure deal for a broader set of tier 1 applications that included expanded use of our DIM module. Based on cloud optimization savings alone, the company calculated a payback for their Dynatrace investment of less than 6 months. On the conversion front, the movement of our classic APM customer base to the broader Dynatrace software intelligence platform conversions continue to accelerate. Plastic ARR has now declined to $94,000,000, down $17,000,000 from a quarter ago. And now only represents 20 percent of total company ARR. As we've discussed, we started this conversion program in earnest 6 quarters ago, with approximately $200,000,000 in ARR to convert. We've been successful in moving our classic customer base to the new Dynatrace platform because virtually every company has new enterprise cloud initiatives. We are not simply upgrading from one product set a new version. Our conversions typically involve a shift from legacy stacks to new stack cloud environments. And a move from perpetual licensing to more predictable subscriptions. While it takes more time to find new stack buyers, and transition licensing models, it yields a much more valuable customer in the strategic go forward growth segment of their business. Their enterprise cloud. We believe the added sales time and effort we've been spending on a near term perspective. Is well worth it over the long term as we have transitioned our own business to drive sustainable growth and predictability. As an example of a converting customer, this past quarter of Fortune 100 Brick and mortar retailer and customer of our classic product set signed a mid-six figure contract to convert to the Dynatrace software intelligence platform with plenty of opportunity to grow into multiple 7 figures over time, as they expand their cloud initiative. Previously, the customer had a low urgency to change as our classic offering was serving their needs well for current enterprise applications. But when new management came on board and prioritized digital transformation, their needs and urgency quickly changed. The company rapidly transitioned from 3rd party developed applications run-in a traditional data center. To in house developed applications rather than new enterprise cloud. Dynatrace not only fit the new stack requirements perfectly, improved invaluable to the company in getting up and running quickly and successfully across a very large hybrid e commerce cloud environment at all layers of the stack. Network, infrastructure, applications, and user experience. The Dynatrace platform's automatic install self learning, baselining and in product chat enabled the company to meet a tight time frame for implementation for its new applications underlying enterprise cloud. This story in many more like it illustrate that as every company becomes a software company, and transitions from old stack to new stack, the demand for Dynatrace to enable this transformation continues to grow. We are very pleased that we are over halfway through the conversion process and believe we will substantially complete this process over the next four quarters. This is particularly exciting for us for 2 reasons. First, we've proven our ability to expand rapidly with customers once they are on the broader Dynatrace platform. And second, we believe the completion of this process will further improve the productivity of our sales as a conversion distractions in, and they can refocus on landing new customers and expanding them across more applications and more use cases. Let me finish by highlighting the expansion of our Dynatrace platform itself, which we believe will further improve our ability to win new customers expand with existing customers and incent classic customers to convert to Dynatrace. Earlier this month, we announced an important new purpose built module to the Digitrace all in one platform, digital business analytics. Monitoring cloud infrastructure and applications is not simply about metrics logs and traces. It's about assuring better business outcomes whether that be measured by user experience, conversion rates, increased revenue, or enhanced brand loyalty. With digital business analytics, Dynetrace now connects best in class cloud infrastructure and application observability with key business analytic data such as conversion rates, revenue by product and geography, segmentation by channel abandonment rates, by page or path and more. And with our powerful AI engine Davis at the core of our platform, Dynatrace Digital Business Analytics instantly surfaces answers to degradation and anomalies with precise problem determination across the entire delivery chain. So that human action can be taken rapidly to resolve issues before users and revenue are impacted. A number of our early adopter customers are using this functionality today, including fashion retailer tablets. They have publicly shared how they've been able to get real time insights and how business outcomes such as product in cart, checkout review, and shipping and billing are impacted by application performance. Degitrace provides answers to the underlying issues affecting user journeys, enabling them to optimize user experience and improve conversion rates. Don Hall, Talbot's manager of e commerce support, summarized the outcome as this has changed how we work. With our operations team now working closer with the merchandising team and other parts of the business to drive improved business outcomes. While others are still working to pull together full stack observability, we delivered full stack observability at enterprise scale 4 years ago. And are moving ahead to higher levels of business value as we extend the capabilities of our software intelligence platform. We're excited about the initial reception 2 and adoption of this new business analytic module. And we plan to further build out a complete set of analytics and integrations with adjacent business analytics players over the next several quarters. Over time, we believe digital business analytics will expand our total addressable market by several $1,000,000,000 as we enter the $24,000,000,000 analytics in business intelligence market, as defined by Gartner. In addition to adding new modules to the Dynatrix platform, we continue to expand existing platform capabilities as well. 1 of the most powerful brought to market in Q2 was a doubling of capacity of a Dynatrace cluster, which now scales to 50,000 hosts per cluster. And we also added support for the clustering of clusters, including cross cluster distributed tracing or scalability without limits. Webscale environments, which were novelty just a couple of years ago, are becoming commonplace as enterprises shift from static on premise data centers, to dynamic multi cloud architectures with highly distributed microservices workloads. A number of our largest customers from Financial Services Healthcare, E Commerce And Technology are enjoying rapidly scaling Dynatrace environments without compromising high fidelity observability smart automation, and real time intelligence. It really is a tribute to our world class engineering led by Vern Rykhenator, our CTO and founder, and the next generation architecture he and his key architects re imagined 5 years ago that we continue to raise the bar for software intelligence at scale. So in summary, our execution across our key performance indicators remains strong. We are consistently winning new cloud business against all competitors. We continue to build on our track record of rapidly expanding with touch once they're on the Dynatrace platform. We continue to run ahead of plan on moving classic customers onto the Dynatrace platform. And as I just described, our innovation engine continues to deliver highly differentiated product value for our growing enterprise customer base. Before I conclude, let me say that it's more than just great product in a rapidly growing market that makes a sustainable world class company. It's also the team you assemble around you. We've been blessed with the exceptional stewardship from Toma Bravo. Their council guidance and support have been invaluable to our success. As we go forward, the role of outside counsel guidance and governance will shift to independent board members. At time of IPO, we added 2 outside board members, Steve Lipschats, CFO of Liddix, and prior to that, Fleetmatix. And Mike Capone, CEO of Click, both accomplished businessmen and directors. We also recently added Jill Ward to our board. She serves on the board of HubSpot and served as a Director of Carbon Black and Adaptive Insights among others. I look forward to their ongoing contributions as we drive value and success for our customers, our shareholders and our employees. With that, let me turn the call over to Kevin Burns for a review of our financials. Kevin? Thank you, John, and good afternoon everyone. I'll start by providing a more detailed review of our second quarter performance, and then I will finish with our outlook for the third quarter and increase full year guidance. Following my remarks, we will open the call annual recurring revenue. For the 2nd quarter, ARR was $470,900,000, an increase of 44% year over year. The Dynatrace platform continues to increase as a percent of total ARR and was $376,800,000 at the end of September, which was 80% of our total ARR. The remaining 20% of our ARR relates to our classic offering. We continue to track very well here and expect to be substantially complete with moving our customers As you may recall, we started the conversion program with our sales organization 6 quarters ago and today, we have converted more than 50% of the classic base, and we are actively working with the remaining customers on converging programs and timelines. Overall, we have had a very good line of sight to completion, and we are very pleased with the success of the program and the benefits that have been realized by our customers once on the new platform. Circling back to total ARR, there are 2 AR growth drivers in our business. The first is new local customers and the second is our Dynatrace net expansion rate. If we quickly break down these 2 ARR growth drivers, during the quarter, we added 250 net new Dynatrace customers. Ending the quarter with 1828 Dynatrace customers. Consistent with recent quarters, net new customers were a healthy balance of adding new logos to the franchise, as well as classic customers moving to a Dynatrace platform. Over the last 12 months, 58 percent of our Dynatrace customer growth has been the result of new logos to the company. In addition to a steady flow of net new customers, our Dynatrace dollar based net expansion rate remained above the 120 percent threshold for the 6th consecutive quarter. We will continue to confirm this net expansion rate on a quarterly basis, and we plan to share the actual net expansion value the end of the based converting from classic products to the Dynatrace platform as we do not charge a fee. Our ARR expansion is solely the result of footprint product expansion in our customer base. We have been very focused on moving our customers to the Dynatrace platform, because from there, our customers can expand their use cases and footprint in ways that were not possible with our classic products. As a result, all of our ARR expansion is either product expansion Our current Dynatrace ARR per customer is north of $200,000, and we continue to believe that there is a large opportunity for further expansion in our existing customer base, considering the fact that the majority of applications that our customers select instrumentation, We continue to expand our value proposition and use cases, as John discussed earlier, and our enterprise customers continue to expand their portfolio of cloud based applications as they digitally transform their business. Turning to revenue. Total revenue was $129,400,000, $5,000,000 above the high end of our guidance and an increase of 27% on a year over year basis. This represented an increase from 25% growth last quarter and 17% growth in the previous quarter. The acceleration in total revenue growth is being driven by the strong growth in subscription revenue, which was $115,800,000 order, an increase of 41% year over year. For the quarter, as expected, classic license revenue was down to $2,700,000 and represented only 2% of our quarterly revenue as we wind these products down. As John indicated, we believe the best measure and reflection of our ongoing revenue growth profile is which was $126,600,000 in the quarter, representing 98% of total revenue and an increase of 37 percent on a year over year basis. Before moving to our profit metrics, I would like to point out that I will be discussing non GAAP results going forward unless otherwise stated, and that our non GAAP measures exclude stock based compensation, amortization of acquired intangibles, and other items as outlined in the tables given in the press release. Our non GAAP gross margin was 82.5 percent for the 2nd quarter, improvement compared to 80.5 percent in the second quarter of fiscal 2019. We are seeing a nice step up in subscription gross margin percent where we are realizing the benefits of winding down the classic stack and, more importantly, the benefits of the Dynatrix platform which has 1 code based and over 90 percent of our customers on a version released within the last 30 days, an extremely efficient product. As a result of these changes, total gross margins have increased, as I just mentioned. Our non GAAP operating income for the second quarter $29,400,000, above the high end of our guidance of $25,000,000, primarily related to the revenue and gross margin upside during the quarter. We also realized some modest operating expense leverage in the second quarter, and therefore, non GAAP operating margin was 23%. Up from 17% in second quarter of 2019. With that said, we remain focused on investing for long term growth and plan to reinvest some of the revenue upside we expect for the full year back into the business, which is reflected in our guidance. Non GAAP net income was $17,300,000 $0.06 per share. This was above our guidance of $0.04 per share. For the quarter, we had 270,000,000 diluted weighted average shares outstanding. Turning to our balance sheet. As of September 30, We had cash and cash equivalents of $211,700,000, and our long term debt was $569,800,000. Our leverage ratio was 3.1x, our trailing 12 month adjusted EBITDA of $117,400,000. Since the end of the second quarter, we paid down $30,000,000 of debt and our current debt balance is $540,000,000. Going forward, the business will continue to naturally de lever due to our healthy cash margins and we expect to steadily pay down debt over time which we believe will continue to create value for our shareholders. The last financial measure that I would like to discuss is remaining performance obligations. Which at the end of the quarter was $653,000,000, an increase of 83% over Q2 of last year. The current portion of RPO, which we expect to recognize as revenue over the next 12 months was $380,500,000 an increase of 70% bind with an increase in the duration of our new subscription agreements. Finally, unlevered free cash flow for Q2 was $27,200,000 and it was $174,700,000 on a trailing 12 month basis. As we've discussed, quarterly cash flows can vary due to seasonality, combined with the fact as we convert our customers from Classic to Dynatrace, can impact the timing of when we invoice our customers. Before moving to guidance, I'd like to review a few items that impacted our GAAP results for the the quarter. 2nd, as a result of the spin off the mainframe business, we recorded a spin tax charge of approximately $256,000,000. In the 2nd quarter, we paid approximately $254,000,000 for federal and state taxes, and we currently expect to pay the remaining FinTechs obligation by early calendar 2020. Please keep in mind that we received $265,000,000 from a Mainframe business pre IPO that these funds are being used to pay the federal and state taxes related to the spin. As a result, we have removed the impact of the spin tax from our non GAAP net income and unlevered free cash flow calculations. Finally, we recorded stock comp expense in the quarter of $155,000,000, of which $145,000,000 was a one time mark to markets.com charge related to the conversion of our pre existing equity awards at IPO. Now let me turn to our guidance, which has been increased due to the strength of our 2nd quarter results combined with our continued positive outlook and the momentum of our business. $555,000,000, representing year over year growth of 36% to 38%. Total revenue is now expected to be in a range of $5.33 to $535,000,000, an increase from our prior guidance of $5.21 to $524,000,000. We expect our non GAAP operating income to be in to $115,000,000. Non GAAP net income per share is now expected to be in the range of $0.23 to $0.24 per share, assuming approximately $275,000,000 weighted average diluted shares for the year. For the third quarter, we expect total revenue to be in the range of $137,000,000 to $138,000,000 representing year over year growth to grow over 30% in the 3rd quarter. We expect 3rd quarter non GAAP operating income to be in the range of $30,000,000 to $31,000,000 and non GAAP EPS of $0.06 to 0.07 dollars per share. This assumes approximately 282,000,000 diluted weighted average shares outstanding for the 3rd quarter. In summary, we are very pleased with our 2nd quarter performance and remain focused on building a strong track record as a public company. We believe Dynatrace's financial profile is highly unique including meaningful scale, strong growth, healthy profitability and cash flow. With a large TAM in front of us and a market leading position, we believe the company continues to be very well positioned. With that, we will open the call for questions. Thank Your first question will come from the line Stirling Auty of JPMorgan. Please go ahead. Hi, guys. This is Matt on for Sterling. Thanks for taking my question and congrats on the quarter. So the first question is just wanted to kind of get a sense of the traction that you're getting from customers that are buying those 3 main solutions of APM infrastructure and logging. And the follow-up is just in regards to the pricing structure sure in logging, how do you guys feel about that given where Datadog is and also the changes being made at Splunk? Thanks. Sure, Matt. So, from a, you know, competitive landscape perspective, we haven't seen much change, honestly, since we last talked, The, what we see in our world, as you know, we land you know, with with APM sort of as a core strength, the application, you know, and user experience segments, that serves us well. The market is in need of our kind of platform. For dynamic, you know, web scale workloads. And, we're we're seeing more and more customers hit what we call the microservices wall as we go forward where they have, just, you know, classic tooling that just can't keep up with the scale or dynamism of those environments. So, you know, our competitive position continues to be very strong. We continue to win against all competition in that area. And as evidenced with the new logo growth, you know, as we go forward. The other modules are what we've talked about as expand planes. And the cross selling into the infrastructure only hosts. Which, we consider also part of, you know, logs go into that, you know, offering for us, that that is, starting to expand well. But most of our expansion, as I said before, continues to come from just more diner trace into more application workloads, cloud application workloads, because they're it's so under penetrated. It's a very straightforward expansion opportunity for us. So that continues to be the strongest. Maybe the last thing I ought to say in the competitive, you know, landscape front is we really don't, you know, overlap. It's certainly not yet with, some of these other competitors coming out of the infrastructure space, they're still trying to bring together their observability solutions something we've had for the last 4 years. And we continue to increase the value of our platform driving better business outcomes with things like user experience capabilities. And, as I noted in my comments earlier, digital business analytics. Great. Thanks for that. Your next question will come from the line of Matt Hedberg of RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead. Your line is open. Hey, guys. Congrats on the quarter. Thanks for taking my questions. Certainly seeing ARR accelerated at scale is impressive. You know, and I think in your prepared remarks, you're clearly having success converting classic customers. But I guess on the new customer front, Can you talk about what percentage of those are greenfield wins versus competitive displacement? Sure. The, in general, the greenfield is about a third of what we see we see, you know, more competitive displacement, whether that's, you know, actual head to head, you know, sort of bake off with someone or we're replacing, sort of a combination of tools in more to do it yourself, you know, kind of set up. So it's that's been consistent for us over the last couple of years. That's great. And then seeing the net expansion north of 120% is great. And I guess, I think on the roadshow, you guys talked about maybe 5 percent of the industry is is currently monitoring their apps. John, I guess I guess I'm wondering, when you look at some of your more sophisticated customers, do you have a sense for sort of what percentage of their apps are being monitored? Our best estimates are even at the high end, they're in the 20% to 30% range with the Dynatrace but they all want to get to 50 plus. So there's plenty of headroom and those at the very top end. Most customers are really are in that 5%, probably on average, growing number getting up to 10% because the expansion of our new platform is so easy. But, you know, still early days and there's still a lot of headroom just on that application side, you know, before you even get to the cross sell into additional itom use cases. Makes a lot of sense guys. Thanks again. Your next question will come from the line Heather Bellini of Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead. Your line is open. Hi. This is Caroline on for Heather. I was just curious about, the retention rates of the customers that have been converting over to the new Diamond Trace platform. I'm curious as to how that has been trending? And then also, are you seeing those customers, add additional workloads as they convert over? So from a conversion standpoint, the new platform is extremely sticky. The use cases are wider. The value is quicker to realize. The connective tissue between sort of the infrastructure and application monitoring with driving better business outcomes is is, you know, is more clear and straightforward. So that's been, it's been a great advantage to us as we move people across onto the Dynatrace platform. The second part of the question? The second part is, just in terms of the renewal rate, and I'll Got that, Caroline. So if you look at where we've been, we've moved about $100,000,000 off of the classic stack over the last six quarters. It's been done by the sales organization. That's translated at time of conversion to about $123,000,000 onto the Dyna Trade's platform. So we're seeing those customers when they move off a classic expand onto the diatrix platform. That's true footprint expansion. Included in that math is churn, is a little bit of churn. And yeah, I'd say we're in line with sort of industry standard churn rates. Got it. That's helpful. Thank you. Your next question will come from the line of Jennifer Lowe of UBS. Please go ahead. Your line is open. I wanted to go back to some of the earlier conversation in the prepared remarks about, you know, big digital transformation projects. As an opportunity for Dynatrace to come in and really help customers, execute on their vision with moving applications into the cloud and then having the sophistication to to manage and monitor his applications. And given that there's a lot of players usually involved in those types of digital transformation projects, be it SIs or hyperscalers or other platform solutions. I'd just be curious where in the process Dynatrace comes into types of transactions? And are there any relationships that help you get in the door to discover where those opportunities exist? Sure. No. Good question. The, sometimes we do come in with, system integrators. They are responsible sort of as the general contractor for a lot of the larger projects. And they look for the variety of pieces that they need in order to do proper migration and then scale out of these, you know, enterprise clouds. The, so we have some very good relationships with the global SI base as well as regional cloud integrators. That have sprung up around, you know, whether it's OpenShift or cloud foundry AWS Azure, etcetera. So, so that is a, an important part of our go to market portfolio the, but we still find the majority of our opportunities through our direct enterprise sales organization. And, we as we talked about before, we target the Global 15,000 enterprises We're, we now have about 1800 of them penetrated. So a little over 10%. But still a lot of headroom to go. But it's a direct sales organization that finds the cloud architects and application architects, coming in through, whether that's DevOps or the operation side of the business. And, brings Dynatrace in usually at the time of, of, scale out of an enterprise cloud, not when the first applications go into AWS or Azure, but when the company actually has a strategic initiative to build out a much a broader multi cloud strategy. Great. Thank you. Your next question will come from the line of Bhavan Suri of William Blair. Please go ahead. Your line is Hey, gents, thanks for taking my questions and congrats. I wanted to touch, first on the infrastructure monitoring SKU. Obviously, the end to end value proposition of platform is obviously compelling, but there's some organizations that may want to start out using the infrastructure only. You offer a separate SKU there, obviously, Can you talk about what level of interest you're seeing an uptake in the infrastructure only SKU? And then I guess in cases where you sold it, how successful have you been and migrate those guys up to the full platform? So, Bhavan, we rarely land with infrastructure only. We use that to expand. The reason integrators or sales folks land, they will land in the application side the full stack application side where folks have sort of a high pain We have the industry leading solution there. So it's pretty obvious that they're going to focus there first. The, the reason people come to us for the infrastructure only host extension is because once they get the hang of the value of our integrated AI engine Davis, they realized that to see that wide topology all at once and have it all sort of or 24x7 by an intelligent assistant, it makes their life so much easier across a much wider landscape. So, so that's how we go to market today. Maybe that will change in the future, but I don't think that's too similar to some of our competitors landed position of strength and expand from there. Got it. Got it. That's helpful. Maybe touching on one of product, the DEM, obviously, you talked about the digital experiencing attach rates ticking up. I think we talked about it last quarter. I guess, as you think about that, you know, just an update on what you're seeing there as people have come back sort of an added DM piece, especially, that they're transitioning the cloud. So just love to get some more color on what you're seeing there too. Thank you. That's a that's an interesting one as well. A couple of years ago, there was a low demand for digital experience as everybody was just standing up their clouds and they were spending more time just trying to figure out how to make the infrastructure itself work and, try to get it in shape for business critical workloads. But now we see the workload starting to hit the, the cloud platforms at an accelerated rate. And with this, the appreciation of understanding user experience, you know, has, has climbed dramatically. Our attach rates up considerably over a year ago. And, the, the scale out of the Digital Experience module continues to get, to get great traction in our customer base. I gave an example just a few minutes ago of one customer, but pretty much anyone who has some kind of an e commerce or some kind of an important customer facing application is a great candidate for extended, Dem use from Dynatrace. That was, that was really helpful. If I could squeeze 1 more product 1 in. You obviously announced a new product, on focus on product just today, as you can tell. But the new digital business analytics module Obviously, sounds really interesting. You've obviously had AI, but just, a, can you just talk a little bit about the module who you sell it to and the pricing and interest from customers? That's it for me. Thank you. Sure. So the, currently, the the lands landing zone is really with the operations folks who want to connect with the digital business owners and provide more value and service to that group. Over time, as we build out the analytics and some of the some of the integrations with some of the other, business analytics tooling that the business folks use we're hoping to actually break into the business budgets as well. And, that's a key part of driving, you know, fall Tamex expansion in this area for us as we go forward. The way we're pricing this module initially is through, through, data ingestion. But over time, we'll expand that monetization opportunity as I said some additional analytics become available and some other pieces that we have on the roadmap to expand our functionality in this area. To fit the business user needs. Let me just add real quick that this is a product extension area we've been eyeing for a while. We're really excited about it. Customers are excited about it because it gives them a direct connection between some of these sort of metrics and problem determination items under the hood directly with business outcome metrics. And, that connective tissue to be that, you know, tight, you know, is something that every customer looks for as they try to drive their digital business initiatives slower. Especially in real time. Yeah. Yes, especially in real time. Exactly. Your next question will come from the line of Richard Davis of Canaccord. Please go ahead. Your line is open. Hey, thanks. Well, clearly, the analytics AI engine will sell because it has a name Davis, so we'll just leave it at that. But I appreciate that part. So in any case, no, I've been talking to a bunch of investors lately. So one of the things that they get confused on is it, you know, sometimes they think Dynatrace and other firms like Google are kinda like an either or decision. And and, you know, in our in our field checks, least we we've found, and I think you guys have said the same thing is is that these are this is not the case. And so could you kinda flush out how, like, Google analytics and a Dynatrace are complimentary, not competitive. And it's I'm just trying to help people understand the the difference on that? Thanks. Sure. Well, well, our business analytics are directly connected with, with performance and user experience and connected all the way down into, you know, infrastructure and virtual network elements that may or may not be affecting, you know, performance issues. So So what we do is we service and connect this digital business data with that entire you know, full stack footprint. And, nobody does that. Everybody sort of sits on the on the surface. And sort of bubbles along, Google, Adobe, etcetera. What I was alluding to as far as integrations with of these other solutions that the business side of the house utilized day to day, I'm alluding to the sort of tighter integration with some of these other tools, like a Google, where they're complementary with each other and brought together and connected, they can be a lot more powerful than each one sort of separate on their own. So, you know, that's still for us to do. But as you point out, we see them extremely complementary you know, no head to head, you know, overlaps, overlaps there. Got it. Super. Thank you very much. Your next question will come from the line of Walter Pritchard of Citi. Please go ahead. Your line is open. Thanks. I'm wondering if you could help, sort of quantify the order of magnitude increase when you're selling into a into a customer, maybe not initial sale, but how you see that opportunity progressing relative to what, those questions are bought in either ATM or ATM infrastructure and logging? Well, today, I would say from the, sort of, you know, if you're asking, what's the order of magnitude of the monetization You know, I'd say that it's in sort of a 10% of sort of, you know, host unit maybe, probably not a dollar for dollar with them. Dem is sort of more pervasive and at the moment. But over time, it should be equivalent to what the dim module brings, which is you know, think of it as maybe 50¢ on the dollar of host units. So, you know, that's the way we think about it. That's, what we believe we can achieve, you know, as we build out the functionality in this area. The value is certainly extremely high when you can bring business metrics tied with performance and user experience together in real time for digital business owners. So that's the way we see it today, and that's why I say, you know, we're time is going to continue to scale out in monetization as we add additional value to the solution or to the module. Got it. Okay. And then just on the customer count question on you saw a nice uptick in new customers the quarter versus last quarter and well above where you were in 4Q. I'm wondering if that incremental customer count was more attributable to the brand new or the conversion. I think you mentioned pretty healthy new customer activity, but just curious if you can quantify that and especially in the context of the acceleration in customer adds. Yes. Well, so new customers net new logos to the business continue to be the majority of the, the Dynatrace growth quarter over quarter, quarter over quarter growth. And, the staff that I think Kevin gave you, which is 58 over trailing 12 months, 58%. Of the new customers added to the Dynatrace platform, somewhere a little over 900 customers there. 58% have been new logos to the business. So we have a healthy sort of a new logo expansion going on in the company. And that's even with a little bit of distraction in our sales organization on the conversions, which we think you're taking about maybe 20% of their time right now. Until that's behind us. So healthy new logos, as you point out, and room to increase that rate you know, as we free up the sales organization in, in, you know, for short quarters here. Okay, great. Thanks for the clarification. Your next question will come from the line of Brent Thill of Jefferies. Please go ahead. Your line is open. Hey guys, thanks. This is part of the one for Brent. Just a follow-up on Walter's question. The new platform customer uptick for the quarter Maybe is that maybe a new marketing motion or some sort of new initiative that maybe is yielding early results? Maybe of a little bit more color there would be flow? No, I don't think it's that. I think what we're seeing is, are a couple of things. Obviously, we have an expanding sales organization. So that certainly helps. But what we're also seeing is that the Gen 1 and Gen 2, monitoring solutions are not just working okay in the dynamic clouds that are now sort of scaling out in production at enterprise level. They actually just don't work. And so customers are in a scramble. And, you know, I think it's what's creating the buzz around this concept of observability. We've been talking about the fact that the cloud we'll disrupt everything. And that's why we reinvented our platform, you know, for this, you know, for this moment. And we're starting to see it play out in in growing scale. You know, and it's we're we're sort of lining up with the scale out of Kubernetes in some ways because of this. That's why we call it the microservices wall because that's what customers hit. So as that continues and that trend continues, I do think our new logo expansion to the franchise will continue to be robust. Okay, got it. Thanks. And then, good to see a strong net expansion number, but I wanted to ask about the the initial land motion, maybe what are you seeing in terms of the number of APM host deployed on that initial land and the recent cohort of customers relative to what you saw the best? The initial land is very consistent with where it's been. In the 90,000 to 100,000 initial land. I mean, it's healthy. It's is healthy versus a lot of competitors out there that land in very small mid market footprints. But But for us and you start thinking into enterprise class customer, that's a pretty modest byte to start with. The exciting thing is that the, while the land is, is nice, it's the expansion that has accelerated for us versus our classic product world. And, we're seeing that in the net expansion rates being healthy And, and I believe we'll continue to see that over time. As we get more comfortable with, sort of the cross selling of some of these other modules into the customer base. Your next question comes from the line of Raimo Lenschow of Barclays. Please go ahead. Your line is open. Hey, thanks for squeezing me in and congrats for me as well. A quick one. If you, if you, John, if you've like a lot of the questions on the call were obviously around like product and how observability because you have so many different players. But then you guys are just offering something that is very unique in the market because none of the other APM guys have really rewritten and you guys are solving one of the most complex issues out there. Whereas and the question is now like where are the customers in terms of under sending that in terms of like the microservices wallet you're talking about and that eventually a lot of more stuff have to come to you. Are we still in the early innings of that? And hence, you're confident about kind of growing the growing customer base coming your way? We are in the early innings. And it's as fast as we can get out there and have customers suspend disbelief just long enough to believe that something else, something out there could actually do all this. And it's why we do a proof of concept with every customer is to show them not just the Dynatrace advantage, but show them that it actually is true. So, but it's, but it's a key part of our sales motion. The, the other thing I just want to sort of point out here before the call is over is. I know there's this talk about how suddenly competitive the space seems to be. I gotta tell you that the monitoring space has had dozens dozens of companies in it for decades now. It's always been a competitive space. It's just that, you know, sort of forgotten about the fact that they all got swallowed up by a handful of big players and turned into sort of suites, you know, of tooling. But Dynatrace has competed in noisy competitive market for over a decade quite successfully and built a category leader, because we think and build product differently. We don't just try to put more metrics out than somebody else, what we try to do is actually solve customer problems and help them drive better business outcomes. So I think that you're right. We're in a good competitive position. We don't just do observability. We do automation and intelligence, which drive greater business value. And I'm really excited about where we are in competitive position at the right time in the market as this transition to enterprise cloud and the dynamism, these, orchestrated workloads, microservices workloads really hit production at a high level. Yes. Okay. I'll leave that as a very good closing remark. Thanks, John. There are no further questions at this time. I'll turn the call back over to the presenters. Yeah. Well, thank you very much for your time this evening. Appreciate it. And I look forward to catching up in 90 days. Thank you, everyone. Cheers. And this concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect.