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Earnings Call: Q1 2026

May 19, 2026

Operator

Greetings, welcome to the Eagle Point Credit Company first quarter 2026 financial results call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. If anyone should require operator assistance during the conference, please press star zero on your telephone keypad. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to your host, Darren Daugherty with Prosek Partners. Thank you. Please begin.

Darren Daugherty
Managing Director, Prosek Partners

Thank you, operator, and good morning. Welcome to Eagle Point Credit Company's earnings conference call for the 1st quarter of 2026. Speaking on the call today are Thomas Majewski, Chief Executive Officer, and Ken Onorio, Chief Financial Officer and Chief Operating Officer. Before we begin, I would like to remind everyone that the matters discussed on this call include forward-looking statements or projected financial information that involve risks and uncertainties that may cause the company's actual results to differ materially from such projections. For further information on factors that could impact the company and the statements and projections contained herein, please refer to the company's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Each forward-looking statement or projection of financial information made during this call is based on the information available to us as of the date of this call.

We disclaim any obligation to update our forward-looking statements unless required by law. Earlier today, we filed our first quarter 2026 financial statements and investor presentation with the Securities and Exchange Commission. These are also available in the investor relations section of the company's website, eaglepointcreditcompany.com. A replay of this call will be made available later today. I will now turn the call over to Thomas Majewski, Chief Executive Officer of Eagle Point Credit Company. Tom?

Thomas Majewski
CEO, Eagle Point Credit Company

Thanks, Darren. Good morning, everyone. We're glad you're joining us today on Eagle Point Credit Company's quarterly call. I'll start by providing some perspectives on the recent quarter. CLO equity faced challenging market conditions in the first quarter of 2026, and the company was not immune to those broader dynamics. While CLO fundamentals remain relatively stable, a decline in loan prices, especially in the software sector and a cautious tone in the credit markets broadly due to the ongoing war in Ukraine, weighed on our financial performance during the quarter. The software sector was particularly an area of focus during the quarter as investors continued to assess the potential impact of AI on certain business models and revenue streams. Importantly, however, our exposure is principally through broadly syndicated loans, not middle market lending that's commonly found in BDCs.

The loans in our CLOs are typically larger, more liquid, institutionally syndicated credits that have observable market pricing, which can result in more immediate mark-to-market volatility during sector-specific pressure. ECC software exposure at quarter end stood at roughly 10.8%. While there's not one definitive number, many market sources would say BDCs typically have software exposure in the mid-20% range. While the volatility in loan prices impacted our quarterly valuations, we believe it also created opportunities for many of our CLO collateral managers to reinvest pay downs and sale proceeds into discounted loans with attractive forward return potential. While these factors led to a decline in CLO equity valuations during the quarter, we believe the market typically undervalues the reinvestment option embedded in CLOs during times of dislocation.

The ability to buy loans at material discounts to par has allowed CLO equity to deliver attractive intermediate and long-term returns following short-term periods of volatility. During the quarter, we deployed $100 million into new investments at a weighted average effective yield of 18.9% as we took advantage of compelling relative value opportunities created by a particularly uncertain macro environment. Throughout the quarter, we continued to actively manage our CLO portfolio by completing 4 resets and 3 refinancings of our CLO equity positions, resulting in weighted average CLO debt cost savings of 43 basis points for those CLOs. In addition to lowering our debt costs, the reset positions extended their reinvestment periods to 5 years. Our portfolio's weighted average remaining reinvestment period or WARP ended the quarter at 3.4 years.

This is higher than the market average of 2.8 years and also higher than our year-end level of 3.3 years. This reflects our continued focus on extending the reinvestment optionality in our CLO portfolio. We also continue to broaden ECC's opportunity set across credit. While CLO equity remains central to the company's strategy, as we've mentioned on the prior call, we have selectively increased our exposure to complementary asset classes, including infrastructure credit, regulatory capital relief, portfolio debt securities, and certain other structured and specialty credit investments. These investments are sourced through dedicated teams across the Eagle Point platform and are designed to enhance income, improve diversification, and capture attractive relative value beyond just traditional CLO equity. One recent example of this strategy in action is a directly originated infrastructure investment that we made in the fourth quarter of 2025.

We were able to successfully realize this investment just four months later, crystallizing an attractive return. This outcome demonstrates our ability to originate and monetize differentiated credit opportunities outside of CLO equity while still maintaining ECC's income-oriented investment focus. As of March 31st, CLO equity represented 67% of our portfolio, while other credit asset classes represented 31%. The balance was held in cash. As of March 31st, our NAV stood at $4.17 per share, This represents a decrease of 26.8% from $5.70 per share at year-end. For the first quarter, the company generated a GAAP return on equity of negative 20.2%. During the quarter, we paid $0.42 per share in cash distributions to our common shareholders. That said, ECC's portfolio rebounded sharply in April.

Our NAV increased to between $4.49 and $4.59 per share, a nearly 9% increase at the midpoint. Last week, we declared three monthly distributions of $0.06 per share for the third quarter of 2026. This is in line with our distributions for the second quarter. Our current distribution level is aligned with the company's near-term earnings profile and reflects our focus on maintaining a sustainable distribution over time.

Separately, as disclosed in our recent public filings, members of our advisor senior investment team purchased more than 167,000 shares of the company's common stock during the first quarter, reflecting their confidence in the company's long-term value and our view that the current trading levels do not fully reflect the intrinsic value of our stock. Subsequent to quarter end, we completed the full redemption of our ECCW and ECCX notes. With that, I'll turn the call over to Ken to discuss the financial results in more detail.

Ken Onorio
CFO and COO, Eagle Point Credit Company

Thank you, Tom, and thanks everyone for joining us today. For the first quarter of 2026, the company recorded NII less realized losses from investments of $19 million or $0.14 per share. This compares to NII less realized losses from investments of negative $0.26 per share in the fourth quarter of 2025 and NII and realized gains from investments of $0.33 per share in the first quarter of 2025. Including unrealized losses, the company recorded a first quarter GAAP net loss of $148 million or $1.12 per share. This compares to a GAAP net loss of $0.84 per share in both the previous quarter and the first quarter of 2025. Recurring cash flows for the first quarter was $62 million or $0.47 per share.

This was $0.11 per share shy of our aggregate common distribution and total expenses for the quarter. A reminder that all of our financing remains at a fixed rate, and we have long duration capital with no maturities prior to January 2029. In addition, a significant portion of our preferred stock financing is perpetual with no set maturity date, providing additional flexibility to support our investment strategy. We are unaware of any other publicly traded entity that invests primarily in CLO equity with perpetual financing and consider this to be a significant competitive advantage for the company. As of April 30th, pro forma for April performance and the redemption of ECCX and ECCW, our leverage was 47% based on the midpoint of management's unaudited estimated range of the company's April NAV.

Over time, we plan to bring the company's leverage ratio back to our target range of 27.5%-37.5% when generally operating the company under normal market conditions. Through April 30th, we have collected $51 million in recurring cash flows and expect additional collections during the remainder of the quarter. Management's unaudited estimate of NAV as of April month-end was between $4.49 and $4.59 per share, the midpoint being a 9% increase from quarter end. With that, I'll turn the call back to Tom.

Thomas Majewski
CEO, Eagle Point Credit Company

Thanks, Ken. I'd now like to share some additional thoughts on the loan and CLO markets, as well as how we are positioning the portfolio. During the first quarter, new CLO issuance totaled $47 billion, while reset and refinancing activity remained strong at $32 billion and $24 billion respectively, despite the volatility in the markets. The S&P/LSTA Leveraged Loan Index fell 50 basis points in the first quarter. In April, it rebounded by 1.2%, bringing the total return positive for the year. Corporate revenue and EBITDA growth remained positive during the first quarter, supporting overall credit fundamentals across the broadly syndicated loan market despite the decline in loan prices. While the trailing twelve-month default rate ended the first quarter at 1.4%, modestly higher than year-end levels, it still remains well below the long-term average of 2.5%.

ECC's look-through default rate remains low at 32 basis points, significantly below the broader market average. We believe this reflects both the quality of our underlying loan holdings and our dedication to a robust collateral manager selection process. While lower loan prices may have impacted CLO valuations in the near term, they've also created attractive reinvestment opportunities for our CLOs. The percentage of loans trading above par has declined meaningfully, creating the potential for price appreciation across the broader loan market in quarters ahead. At the same time, repricing activity has slowed considerably, resulting in wider spreads on new loans and improving the forward return outlook. This is an important shift, as repricing activity led to spread compression, which was a key headwind to the CLO equity market in 2025. Turning to our portfolio positioning, our CLO equity portfolio metrics continue to compare favorably to the broader market.

As of quarter end, triple C-rated exposures in our portfolio were 4.1%, which is lower than the market average of 4.9%. Our weighted average junior over-collateralization ratio stood at 4.4%, roughly 10% above the market average of 4.0%. These metrics reflect our disciplined approach and focus on higher quality collateral managers and help position the portfolio to navigate periods of challenging market conditions. Beyond CLO equity, we continue to see compelling opportunities in credit investments that offer strong structural protections, contractual or asset-based cash flows, and attractive risk-adjusted return potential. These investments are not intended to entirely replace CLO equity, but rather to complement it in our portfolio by adding differentiated sources of income and return. Looking ahead, we believe the current environment is considerably more attractive than the headlines of the first quarter would suggest.

Lower loan prices, reduced loan repricing activity, and continued market dispersion have improved the opportunity set for new capital deployment. At the same time, April's NAV recovery reinforces our view that the first quarter decline was largely driven by short-term mark-to-market pressure rather than fundamental deterioration in the long-term earning power of our portfolio. We remain focused on allocating capital to the best relative value opportunities across CLO equity and complementary credit investments. Our goal is to produce durable, attractive, long-term returns for our shareholders, focused on income-oriented investments and supported by a stable or growing NAV over time. Thank you for your time and interest in Eagle Point Credit Company. Ken and I will now open the call to your questions. Operator?

Operator

Thank you. Thank you. Our first question comes from the line of Erik Zwick with Lucid Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question.

Erik Zwick
Analyst, Lucid Capital Markets

Hello. Good morning. Wanted to start with a question. You know, in the press release, you mentioned that the weighted average yield on new investments, that it includes a provision for future credit losses. I'm curious, just given the magnitude of geopolitical and macroeconomic uncertainty to-today, could you maybe talk a little bit about, you know, what level of credit losses you provisioned for today, and then whether that's unchanged from what you've typically done, you know, in the past or if it's pretty consistent o-over the market cycle?

Ken Onorio
CFO and COO, Eagle Point Credit Company

Yeah, certainly. Here, it's Ken here. So there is a standard default rate that we have with each cycle evaluation that we include as a constant default rate as a credit loss. I would say we also calibrate to market, which is a little bit more fluid and reflective of current economics and the current standing of the market for credit and CLO equity. So there is a portion that is standard, and there is a component that is variable to market conditions. If you know, if you wind back to February of the 1st quarter and also to November of the 4th quarter, those were significantly volatile months with significant impact to credit, which we reflected in our valuations.

As that dynamic improves, as the market improves, you'll have the reverse effect, which obviously in this past April was a very solid month for loans and credit, where that variable component of credit loss adjustment is considered on, in a positive way. The way to look at it, standard default rate, no matter what quarter, or what market dynamic is in play, and a variable component based on the current market environment, which changes month to month, or we update on a month-to-month basis.

Erik Zwick
Analyst, Lucid Capital Markets

Thanks, Ken. That's very helpful, and that kind of leads into my next question a little bit. Curious if you could talk just a little bit about what factors specifically drove the increase in the NAV in April, whether it was, you know, spreads or market liquidity or some other factors. I guess, are you seeing a continuation of that through May at this point?

Ken Onorio
CFO and COO, Eagle Point Credit Company

Yeah, sure. I would say we've seen a broad rebound of what we experienced in the first quarter. Credit fundamentals across the board market sentiment, particularly in the software SaaS space, has also improved. I would really look at April as a rebound for the first quarter or a normalization to the first quarter down, a downdraft in valuations. Certainly to this extent as where we stand today, we do see a continuation of strong performance in loans and in our CLO equity portfolio as well as our non-CLO portfolio.

Erik Zwick
Analyst, Lucid Capital Markets

Thank you for taking my questions this morning.

Ken Onorio
CFO and COO, Eagle Point Credit Company

Sure.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Gaurav Mehta with Alliance Global Partners. Please proceed with your question.

Gaurav Mehta
Analyst, Alliance Global Partners

Yeah, thank you. Good morning. I wanted to ask you on the new investments that you made in 1Q, $100.2 million. How much of that was in non-CLO versus CLO equity?

Ken Onorio
CFO and COO, Eagle Point Credit Company

Sure.

Thomas Majewski
CEO, Eagle Point Credit Company

We've got to look that up. Hang on one second.

Ken Onorio
CFO and COO, Eagle Point Credit Company

Let me get that one. Hold on. If you have another question, you could ask while I go to the tape here.

Gaurav Mehta
Analyst, Alliance Global Partners

Okay. As a follow-up on the balance sheet, just for you to learn more about the preferred stock redemptions that you guys did in 1Q and Q2. Was there any specific driver to redeem those stock?

Thomas Majewski
CEO, Eagle Point Credit Company

We did a buyback or a redemption in full of 2 baby bonds. Those were redeemed a week or 2 ago at this point, and that was part of a broader. That was unsecured debt of the company, not a preferred stock, but looks and feels very similar. The rationale on that was getting the company back towards its target leverage ratio. We target over the long term to run the company at a certain leverage ratio. We're still above that right now. But we have been proactive in retiring debt to get the leverage back on sides. One of the benefits of that is on sides with our targets, pushing out our nearest maturity. Previously, I think we had some 2027 paper outstanding.

Our nearest maturity is 2029, and an increasing portion of our debt portfolio or our liabilities, be it debt or preferred, is now perpetual in nature, both through the ECC.PRD, and then the ECC Series AA and AB, which obviously we like that from a stability perspective. We also have ECCC, which is preferred stock outstanding, and that does trade at a little bit of a discount to par.

Ken Onorio
CFO and COO, Eagle Point Credit Company

Yep.

Thomas Majewski
CEO, Eagle Point Credit Company

And we do buy that sometimes in the open market.

Ken Onorio
CFO and COO, Eagle Point Credit Company

That's correct. We're active buyers of our debt where it makes sense, where it's trading at a discount. We gradually, and the purpose of that is twofold. One is it helps build cushion to our leverage ratio. In addition to that, we do make a little bit of gain on it on retirement. It's a quick way to make a few bucks. We're opportunistic when we see our debt trading at a discount, and we buy it back and retire it.

Thomas Majewski
CEO, Eagle Point Credit Company

To the first question we've got here, this is in the investor deck on page-

Ken Onorio
CFO and COO, Eagle Point Credit Company

No, this is.

Thomas Majewski
CEO, Eagle Point Credit Company

Our-

Ken Onorio
CFO and COO, Eagle Point Credit Company

Yeah.

Thomas Majewski
CEO, Eagle Point Credit Company

This is just an internal report we have.

Ken Onorio
CFO and COO, Eagle Point Credit Company

Correct.

Thomas Majewski
CEO, Eagle Point Credit Company

Do you want to share that?

Ken Onorio
CFO and COO, Eagle Point Credit Company

Yeah, sure. The purchase percentages for the first quarter was roughly 75% of purchases were in the non-CLO investments, with the remaining 25% being in CLO investments. 75-25 split weighted towards non-CLOs.

Gaurav Mehta
Analyst, Alliance Global Partners

Okay, thank you. That's all I have.

Ken Onorio
CFO and COO, Eagle Point Credit Company

Okay.

Operator

Thank you. As a reminder, if you'd like to join the question queue, please press star 1 on your telephone keypad. Our next question comes from line of Christopher Nolan with Ladenburg Thalmann. Please proceed with your question.

Christopher Nolan
Analyst, Ladenburg Thalmann

Hey, Tom, when you mentioned the lower loan prices for loans, as a clarification, are those for loans already in CLO or for loans being bought from the banks or the CLO?

Thomas Majewski
CEO, Eagle Point Credit Company

A little of everything. Broadly, you know, through the first quarter, the loan market was down. Not every single loan, but, you know, the vast majority were. Both the loans in the CLOs in general are down. At the same time, loans continue to prepay, and repay typically at a, you know, double-digit % per annum, such that there's always, while loans are at a discount, money coming back into the system at par within a CLO, which when loans are at a discount, collateral managers can go buy those loans instead of paying par. They can buy them at $0.97, $0.98 on the dollar or whatever the price may be. There's been a relatively limited supply of new issue loans. Not none, but you know, there's not a ton of new loans coming out.

While I don't have data on them, typically a loan would come out at $99 and a half issue price. I wager to say the price of loans that came out in the first quarter was probably a smidge lower than normal, but not a lot lower. Where the market was probably getting compensated on new loans was probably a little bit of a higher spread than where it would have otherwise been on a new issue loan. When we say prices are down, that's referring to both loans in the CLO portfolios in general and the reinvestment option in the secondary market. To new issue loans, probably a tiny bit of price movement, but not a ton.

Christopher Nolan
Analyst, Ladenburg Thalmann

Great. As my follow-up, if I understand correctly, the new deployments have effective yield of roughly 18%. The existing portfolio has an effective yield to CLO equity of 9.3%.

Thomas Majewski
CEO, Eagle Point Credit Company

That 9.3, I believe, is at amortized cost, not at fair value. Is that correct, Ken?

Ken Onorio
CFO and COO, Eagle Point Credit Company

Yeah. The 9 and change weighted average effective yield, that is the yield on the overall portfolio, Chris.

Christopher Nolan
Analyst, Ladenburg Thalmann

Right.

Ken Onorio
CFO and COO, Eagle Point Credit Company

know that we disclose each quarter. That includes historical positions, legacy positions that were on the books. The new CLO equity was still deploying at a 20-plus percentage.

Thomas Majewski
CEO, Eagle Point Credit Company

Effective yield.

Christopher Nolan
Analyst, Ladenburg Thalmann

Given that disparity, at what point do we start seeing these much higher yields from these new investments start lifting the effective yield in the portfolio and starting having a cascading effect into earnings and so forth?

Thomas Majewski
CEO, Eagle Point Credit Company

The 9% number, 9% area number you're citing is based on original cost.

Christopher Nolan
Analyst, Ladenburg Thalmann

Correct.

Thomas Majewski
CEO, Eagle Point Credit Company

Um, the-

Christopher Nolan
Analyst, Ladenburg Thalmann

Amortized cost.

Thomas Majewski
CEO, Eagle Point Credit Company

Amortized cost, rather. The, the effective yield based on the market value of the portfolio is much higher because the portfolio does have unrealized appreciation in it. We publish the

Christopher Nolan
Analyst, Ladenburg Thalmann

Yeah.

Thomas Majewski
CEO, Eagle Point Credit Company

Why don't we give that other number as well?

Ken Onorio
CFO and COO, Eagle Point Credit Company

Sure. I'll grab that.

Thomas Majewski
CEO, Eagle Point Credit Company

Hang on one second. We're just pulling it up.

Ken Onorio
CFO and COO, Eagle Point Credit Company

Expected yield is 26.3% on the portfolio based on fair value.

Thomas Majewski
CEO, Eagle Point Credit Company

Is that the CLO equity portfolio or whole?

Ken Onorio
CFO and COO, Eagle Point Credit Company

CLO equity portfolio.

Thomas Majewski
CEO, Eagle Point Credit Company

On the CLO equity portfolio, based on fair value, it's a smidge over 26% on a loss-adjusted effective yield basis. One of the complications, if you were to take the NAV, which reflects unrealized gains and losses, you'd use that 26%. If you were to use amortized cost, then you'd use that lower number, the 9%.

Christopher Nolan
Analyst, Ladenburg Thalmann

Okay. Would it be fair to say that the new investments don't necessarily offer a material yield advantage over the existing portfolio?

Thomas Majewski
CEO, Eagle Point Credit Company

The

Ken Onorio
CFO and COO, Eagle Point Credit Company

Yeah. That's correct. If you look at the existing portfolio, we're talking, you know, maybe $1 billion in assets, roughly, maybe a little less, versus new purchases that are maybe in the tens of millions. Just on a, you know, a weighting perspective, it wouldn't have a material effect.

Christopher Nolan
Analyst, Ladenburg Thalmann

Okay.

Thomas Majewski
CEO, Eagle Point Credit Company

And when we're thinking about-

Ken Onorio
CFO and COO, Eagle Point Credit Company

And-

Thomas Majewski
CEO, Eagle Point Credit Company

If the book is marked at 26, why buy in the 20, lower 20s, would be a logical question. One of the things we publish the effective yield on an investment-by-investment basis in our investor presentation, so you can see how different investments are carried. Most of the investments we're buying new or even in the secondary market today are gonna be skewed towards those that have a longer remaining reinvestment period. Things with longer remaining reinvestment periods typically trade at a tighter effective yield than bonds that have our CLO equity that has a shorter remaining RP. There is a dispersion and a material fact in what yield of a CLO equity trades. That is how much time is left. In general, the purchases we're making are gonna be longer RP paper.

Christopher Nolan
Analyst, Ladenburg Thalmann

You would've made a great college professor. You have a very good way of explaining this stuff. Just one last question.

Thomas Majewski
CEO, Eagle Point Credit Company

Binghamton University, so thank you.

Christopher Nolan
Analyst, Ladenburg Thalmann

Oh, one more if I may.

Thomas Majewski
CEO, Eagle Point Credit Company

Sure.

Christopher Nolan
Analyst, Ladenburg Thalmann

The dividend, the new $0.18 quarterly dividend annualize is roughly 17% on the first quarter NAV. That seems awfully high and potentially unsustainable from my perspective, given everything that you've said. Am I looking at this wrong?

Thomas Majewski
CEO, Eagle Point Credit Company

Well, our NII is roughly in line with that, even a smidge above.

Christopher Nolan
Analyst, Ladenburg Thalmann

Yep.

Thomas Majewski
CEO, Eagle Point Credit Company

We, we obviously did make a significant change, X months ago to the distribution rate. Where we looked at that, we look at the earnings power of the portfolio, and the rate we set the distribution to was below the NII we've had over the last few quarters. With the view of obviously we can't accurately predict the future again and again, but we did seek to make that a number that we believed we could sustain for the foreseeable future. Obviously, market conditions will be a factor. Where we look at where our historic earn NII has been, that was a key factor. Our best guesstimates of forward NII all drove that.

Christopher Nolan
Analyst, Ladenburg Thalmann

Great. That's it for me. Thank you very much.

Ken Onorio
CFO and COO, Eagle Point Credit Company

Thanks, Chris.

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, that concludes our question and answer session. I'll turn the floor back to Mr. Majewski for any final comments.

Thomas Majewski
CEO, Eagle Point Credit Company

Great. Thank you very much. We appreciate everyone's time and interest in Eagle Point Credit Company. Ken and I will be available later today if anyone has any other follow-up questions. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. This concludes today's conference call. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.

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