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Earnings Call: Q3 2020

Aug 10, 2020

Operator

Good day and welcome to the ESCO Technologies Third Quarter 2020 Earnings Conference Call. Today's call is being recorded. With us today are Vic Richey, Chairman and CEO, Gary Muenster, Vice President and CFO. Now to present the forward-looking statement, I would now like to turn the call over to Kate Lowrey, Director of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Kate Lowrey
Director of Investor Relations, ESCO Technologies

Thank you. We issued a press release earlier today that will be referenced during the prepared remarks on this call. You can find a copy of our press release in our Safe Harbor statement regarding forward-looking statements made during this call in the Investor Center of ESCO's website at www.escotechnologies.com. During this call, the company may make forward-looking statements which are inherently subject to risk and uncertainty, particularly given the unknown impact of the current COVID-19 pandemic and the company's response to these evolving circumstances. Actual results may differ materially from those projected in the forward-looking statements, and the company does not assume any duty to update forward-looking statements. Please refer to the company's press release for risk factors that may impact any forward-looking statements and for the reconciliation of any non-GAAP financial measures to their most comparable GAAP measures. Now I'll turn the call over to Vic.

Vic Richey
Chairman and CEO, ESCO Technologies

Thanks, Kate. Before I hand it over to Gary to discuss the third quarter results, I'll provide a brief update on how we're managing the company in this COVID environment. The situation seems to change on a daily basis, so a lot has changed since we last spoke. I think it's important to share some of the details of how we're managing the business in real time and how we're positioning ourselves for the future. When the pandemic hit and we saw the first indication of potential economic impact on our business, we did what we did best. We took decisive action. From the start and through today, we continue to take actions that have a clear and precise focus. That is to protect our strong financial condition, to deliver products and services, and to support our customers, all while keeping our employees safe and healthy.

The measures we've taken so far have allowed us to hold our own over the past few months, as demonstrated by our third quarter results and our strong financial position. We continue to review additional actions across the organization that will adjust our cost structure to fit our near-term sales outlook and support our long-term strategy for profitable growth by strengthening our core. We've demonstrated our operational efficiency and improved our ability to effectively manage cost to meet changing market demands in the past, and the current situation is no different. We're actively addressing today's business pressures and directing our efforts to come out of this even stronger. We are controlling what's within our control and focusing on the near-term situation without losing our vision for the future. Our actions will have a near-term benefit while maintaining our flexibility to ramp up quickly when demand returns to more normal levels.

ESCO will continue to benefit from leading positions in various niche markets delivering a set of unique and highly technical products and solutions specifically designed to meet our customers' needs. This makes it difficult for our solutions to be replaced by alternative sources. We continue to focus on our future, as demonstrated by continued investment in new products across all three segments, which will continue to create new opportunities and drive organic growth. Our deep and experienced management team is providing the leadership to manage through this period of uncertainty. Our disciplined approach to operating the business will result in our continued success. Our employees are our most important asset, and I want to say thank you to our manufacturing employees, leadership teams, and staff around the world for their hard work and dedication, as you have all demonstrated extraordinary commitment to the success of ESCO.

I'll now turn it over to Gary.

Gary Muenster
VP and CFO, ESCO Technologies

Thanks, Vic. I'll comment briefly on Q3 and the year-to-date operating results, which are laid out in the press release. As Vic noted in his comments, our liquidity position is of the utmost importance to us during this challenging time, and I'm extremely pleased with where we stand today, having nearly $700 million of dry powder at our disposal between cash on hand and available credit capacity while carrying a modest leverage ratio of 0.95. I'll touch on a few comparative highlights from the release. Given the backdrop of today's operating environment, I am most pleased to report that we were able to deliver Q3 Adjusted EBITDA of $35 million, consistent with the prior year, despite the noted sales decline at Doble and within commercial aerospace, which are our most profitable operating units historically.

Our Q3 sales decreased only 3% in the current quarter compared to Q3 of last year, and our nine-month year-to-date sales increased 2% year over year despite the COVID-19 impact. A&D sales increased $1 million in the quarter and $28 million year to date, driven by the addition of Globe's submarine component sales, coupled with additional Navy and space sales at VACCO and Westland, which were offset by softness in commercial aerospace. Year-to-date aerospace sales at PTI, Crissair, and Mayday decreased approximately $4 million or 3% compared to prior year. Test sales increased 9% in Q3 and 2% for the nine months. Sales were impacted year to date by a three-week shutdown of our Chinese manufacturing facility earlier this year, coupled with some delays at certain installation sites where access was restricted. Chamber project sales continue to be strong, and installation site availability has mostly returned to normal.

USG sales were down due to the continued deferrals of various project deliverables, as several large utility customers, domestic and international, have realigned their short-term maintenance and spending protocols to focus on uninterrupted power delivery. Maintenance deferrals also reflect various mandates restricting on-site personnel at substations, large transformers, and other customer locations. USG's recent order bookings reflect an increase of additional cybersecurity-related orders, including Doble's DUCe solution, where we have seen strong renewals as well as new customer procurements. As we noted earlier, we take decisive actions when we see downturns in our outlook, and our Q3 SG&A reduction of $4 million or 10% is evidence of that agility. Our year-to-date SG&A is flat compared to prior year, and that was achieved despite having Globe included in the current year and despite our continued spending on R&D and new product development.

Entered orders remain solid in Q3 and are strong year to date, where we booked $624 million and ended June with a backlog of $551 million, up 22% from the start of the year. Our DoD business, led by our participation on the Block V contract for additional Virginia-class submarines, drives this strength. I'll remind you that as the year progresses and as we move into fiscal 2021, we will be delivering products on these large multi-year programs, which will mathematically reduce the optics of our A&D book-to-bill going forward. On the liquidity side, year to date, we generated $54 million of cash from continuing operations, our $64 million ignoring the $10 million pension contribution we made in Q3, which, as I said, resulted in a modest leverage ratio of 0.95 and nearly $700 million of available liquidity.

Q3 and year-to-date adjusted EBITDA improved from prior year, with Q3 reflecting a 20.3% margin despite the lower contributions from our highest margin operating units. And finally, Q3 adjusted EPS was $0.76 a share, up from $0.75 a share delivered in Q3 of 2019. For the remainder of fiscal 2020, the COVID-19 backdrop continues to bring along considerable uncertainty around the extent and duration of today's economic circumstances, which makes it difficult to predict how our Q4 operations will be affected using normal forecasting methodologies. And as a result of this uncertainty, we will not be providing Q4 guidance at this time. To supplement Vic's comments on our cost-savings actions, we are clearly focused on the right things, and we are working diligently on maintaining and optimizing our cash flow and our liquidity.

Our plan is to prudently manage spending in the short term and focus on those costs which do not have a negative outcome, which would impact our ability to meet increasing demand or growth in the future. Now I'll turn it back over to Vic.

Vic Richey
Chairman and CEO, ESCO Technologies

Thanks, Gary. I'll offer some qualitative comments about our end markets, but I will emphasize that the situation continues to be very fluid as to the duration of the current end-market softness. In an effort to give you a sense of our thinking and planning, in July, we completed a thorough review of our individual businesses to update our expectations for the near-term impact of COVID-19 across and within our various operating units. These thoughts were shared with you in the earnings release commentary, so I will only touch on a few highlights for emphasis. Starting with our A&D segment, we expect to see continued softness in the commercial aerospace deliveries over the balance of the year, resulting from reduced build rates and lower airline passenger miles.

Recently, we started seeing some signs of recovery emerging as several air carriers are bringing more of their idle fleet back into service, and daily TSA passenger boarding numbers are increasing. The defense portion of our A&D business is and will remain strong for the foreseeable future, given our backlog and our platform positions. Our aerospace supply chain partners continue to be strong, and in some cases, we are seeing some weakness. We're working on bringing some of these products and services back in-house, such as machining and other capabilities that we can replicate. We also see the current weakness in the aerospace market as an opportunity for ESCO. We continue to look at suppliers or competitors to experience financial or operational stress during this crisis, where we might be able to provide assistance via partnering or through an acquisition at a reasonable price.

Our test business is expected to be strong over the balance of the year, given a solid backlog and the strength of the served markets, including 5G and related communications technologies and the RF shielding in general. We expect USG's customer spending softness to continue for the next few months as they come out of their summer testing protocols and return to their more normal buying patterns. Once some of the social distancing guidelines get sorted out and the utility service personnel can return to their normal site visit routines, we expect our service business to return to normal. Utilities have money to spend, and I'm certain that spending will return in the near future, as maintenance spending cannot be delayed indefinitely without creating significant risk to grid safety, efficiency, or regulatory compliance.

COVID-19 does not change the fundamentals of the global utility industry, as society needs reliable, safe, and secure power. The critical need to maintain, repair, and improve the utility's aging infrastructure is not reduced by this pandemic crisis. On a positive note, I'm really pleased with USG's pipeline of new products and solutions, especially related to the cybersecurity and related asset hardening solutions. We have several new solutions that have been introduced recently, and based on consumer feedback, these products are being enthusiastically received. With regards to NRG and our renewable offerings, I'm pleased to see NRG's end markets recovering more quickly, as investment in renewable energy has increased in both wind and solar better than we anticipated, and we expect that growth to continue. Moving on to M&A, we have several actionable deals under evaluation in our pipeline.

We're taking a prudent and deliberate approach, and we expect to take action on certain opportunities to grow our business as we have in the past. It does appear that the current environment has brought valuations back to a more reasonable range. Our board is supportive of our M&A strategy, and our current balance sheet provides plenty of liquidity to allow us to add to our existing portfolio. In summary, we delivered a solid first nine months of the year, and for the balance of the year, our plan is to continue to focus on the fundamentals and to look for opportunities to leverage our infrastructure through M&A to create additional operating efficiencies and ensure we are well positioned for success in 2021. We will weather the storm, and we will prosper. Be glad to take any questions.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, as a reminder to ask a question, you will need to press star one on your telephone. To withdraw your question, please press the pound key. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. Now, first question comes from the line of John Franzreb with Sidoti & Company. The line is now open.

John Franzreb
Senior Equity Analyst, Sidoti & Company

Good afternoon, guys. Congratulations on a good quarter.

Vic Richey
Chairman and CEO, ESCO Technologies

Thanks, John.

John Franzreb
Senior Equity Analyst, Sidoti & Company

I guess I want to start with the order trends and what you're seeing across all three segments in July versus June. It sounds like things are getting better, but I just want you to kind of talk us through what you're seeing there.

Vic Richey
Chairman and CEO, ESCO Technologies

Yeah, I would say that really across the board, we're starting to see a little pickup. I mean, it was a pretty good dip for a couple of months, but we have seen a pickup really across the board. I was talking to the guys at the utility segment today, and they did have a solid month this past month. And so it appears this fourth quarter was a trough, and now we're starting to pull out of that.

John Franzreb
Senior Equity Analyst, Sidoti & Company

Are your expectations that the service side rebounds in the first quarter of 2021 along the lines of a normal turnaround season or maybe a better-than-normal turnaround season based on some of the deferred spending?

Vic Richey
Chairman and CEO, ESCO Technologies

Yeah, it's a little hard to predict. I mean, you would think that there's going to be some pent-up demand. I think there's certainly work there to be done. So our hope is there's going to be a return to the earlier levels and potential for some upside. But this is such a kind of volatile market, it's kind of hard to pin that down and say, "Absolutely, this is what's going to happen." But certainly, we're close to our customers and talking to service companies who also provide services utilizing our equipment to the utilities. And they're all ready and ready to go. And so I think as soon as this picks up a bit, we should see a solid pickup.

John Franzreb
Senior Equity Analyst, Sidoti & Company

Got it. Got it. And in regards to test and 5G, could you provide any insight of how the timing of that rollout's going to be from your perspective? I've been hearing that things are being deferred, that a lot of the telcos are kind of working on their own backbone versus the 5G rollout. What are you hearing?

Vic Richey
Chairman and CEO, ESCO Technologies

So I think the 5G is going to go forward. And I think the most important thing for you to understand from our company's perspective, I'd say the timing of the actual rollout to the consumers is probably more in question than it was a year ago. But what I would say is all the testing if you remember, for our business, we're doing the testing of new development or the components of the handsets, the towers, those type of things. So our testing really takes place in the early phase of this, and I think that's continuing to go. We've seen very strong opportunities there and orders there, both for some standard products, for some upgrades for some systems we had out there, as well as new products.

So I don't disagree that maybe the actual rollout's going to be delayed some, but we were not really seeing any impact to our business as a result of that, just because of where we kind of fall on a continuum of the development cycle.

John Franzreb
Senior Equity Analyst, Sidoti & Company

Okay. And I guess one last question, and then I'll get back into queue. Regarding the SG&A, you already highlighted that it was down $4 million or 10%. Could you just remind us what the cost actions you are taking and how much is variable and how much is fixed of those actions?

Gary Muenster
VP and CFO, ESCO Technologies

Yeah, I'd say, John, what we do is when this thing first hit the fan a few months ago, we're pretty good cost managers. And what we did is, across the company, we pretty much stood on all discretionary spending, such as obviously travel. That was outside of our control. So we do a lot of traveling around this company with the Doble going out to sites. And if that becomes zero, there's an immediate cost saving there, the same with the test. So travel is a big part of it. We deferred some compensation adjustments that might have been coming through in mid-year. We deferred those to next year. So our goal was to try to control costs that didn't have a cost associated with them. So it wasn't like we shut a facility, and that cost us $2 million. It would save us $2 million.

These were all costs that were trimmed that didn't have an associated cost with them. So as we go forward, you'll see some of that pickup. As some of these things reopen, we'll get a correlated revenue stream with that. When Doble sites open up and when ETS is able to travel again, you'll see the G&A move up, but you'll also see the sales and gross margin to go serve that move along with it. So we're really pleased with how we were able to do that without taking draconian steps and cutting people's pay and doing some other things around that where there's a cost associated with that. So this level that you see in Q3, I think it'll be pretty comparable in Q4 as we go forward.

Then as we get into 2021, we'll size the SG&A for whatever we see the forecasted revenue looking out as so we can maintain that same percentage of sales as we go forward.

Vic Richey
Chairman and CEO, ESCO Technologies

Yeah, I think there's anything that I would add, though. I mean, SG&A is one piece of it, but we have been sales have gone down in some locations. Obviously, we have to right-size a little operations, and those typically fall in the non-SG&A bucket. Those are direct costs. So those are things that are going to be going away and will not come back until such time that the sales pick up. So SG&A is a big piece of it, but a lot of what we've done is really more associated with direct cost.

John Franzreb
Senior Equity Analyst, Sidoti & Company

Great. Thanks a lot, guys. I'll get back into queue.

Vic Richey
Chairman and CEO, ESCO Technologies

Okay.

Operator

Thank you. And again, ladies and gentlemen, as a reminder to ask a question, you need to press star one on the telephone. To withdraw your question, please press the pound key. And our last question or now our next question comes from the line of Jon Tanwanteng with CJS Securities. Your line is now open.

Jon Tanwanteng
Managing Director and Research Analyst, CJS Securities

Hey, good afternoon, guys. Very nice quarter. My first question is on the commercial aerospace business. I know you mentioned you're seeing some signs of pickup. I was wondering if you could go into a little bit more detail on that, delineate between the OEM side and the aftermarket side. And do you think you're past the trough in that business, or maybe there's another dip to come depending on production rates or inventory levels in the channel?

Vic Richey
Chairman and CEO, ESCO Technologies

Well, I mean, Jon, there's two big variables, as you know, and they're both pretty unpredictable. I mean, we have build rates from the OEMs now so that we're building too. And so if those hold, then I think we have clearly understood what that looks like. Now, if there's a second burst of COVID or we have another spike and they have to change their build rates again, that obviously could have some impact on us. We're not seeing that today, and we're kind of planning for what we've been informed of. And then the other piece is just the pickup of air travel and what we're seeing, well, I'd say what we saw last month, and I haven't looked at it for a week or so, but give it 25% of what we had pre-COVID as far as people flying.

But we do see that starting to pick up some too, and obviously, that drives our spares business, our service business, and our OEM business. And again, I think the big variable there is do we have another spike or not. I was just on a call with a guy, and he said he was on a flight to Montana, and it was totally full. He said it was freaking out a little bit. But I think it's been a bit of a mixed bag. And so, as you know, flights are flying fuller today, but there's still not nearly as many of them. So I think that's the big issue. But it seems, unless things turn south again in a big way, that we've kind of as I mentioned earlier, I think the fourth quarter is kind of the trough that we're experiencing.

Gary Muenster
VP and CFO, ESCO Technologies

Jon, just adding something to that, I think we've talked in the past about we track weekly sales reports. We've done that for a long time, but we paid a lot more attention to it here over the last three or four months. I'd say if you look at the profile of the last five weeks, they are nominally moving in the right direction, as Vic said in his comments, with aircraft coming back in service and TSA passengers coming through. But again, so I would say stabilization is probably the best thing we're looking at right now. If it does go down, we're talking about 1% or 2%, not 10% or 15%, because this feels pretty comfortable based on the last five weeks of deliveries.

Jon Tanwanteng
Managing Director and Research Analyst, CJS Securities

Got it. That's very helpful. And then just skipping over to the Doble business, we had record heat waves in the South, blackouts across the East Coast when we had that, a storm come up here, some of them quite long. Any read-through to the utilities and their maintenance or maybe lack thereof because they skipped it this season? I mean, and how that flows through to your business when the summer heat dies down and they're free to do service again, and kind of what kind of bounce back we could see?

Vic Richey
Chairman and CEO, ESCO Technologies

Yeah, again, we're not assuming that there's going to be an upside to this. Our current view is, again, this next quarter, probably kind of consistent with what we've seen, maybe up some in the fourth quarter. And then next year, we're projecting to get back better than they're doing this year, but I think there's still going to be a bit of a ramp. But it really is going to depend on when they get in there and start getting out to the sites again, because some of these sites are just not getting visited right now. And so I think a lot of it depends on what happens when they do get back in the field. And for us, really, the only sites we've been authorized to go to are the nuclear sites.

And so a lot of it is yet to be determined, but certainly, this is an issue with a finite life. The question is, how long is that finite life? But they cannot continue to ignore these types of tests.

Jon Tanwanteng
Managing Director and Research Analyst, CJS Securities

Okay. Fair enough. And then just last from me, what's driving the strength at NRG? I know you mentioned wind energy is coming back. There's a bit of solar product that's being successful now. Just a little more color on the strength you're seeing, where it's coming from, and kind of how sustainable that is.

Vic Richey
Chairman and CEO, ESCO Technologies

Some of it, I would say, is focus. The people we have there are a little more focused on the solar side now, and we had some products, but I didn't think we were taking advantage of those as much as maybe we should have. So I'd say the solar side of it has been dramatically better this year. What we anticipated, part of that is just investment, and part of it is a better focus on that. If you look at it in general, the interest rates being as low as they are, I think has helped a ton because before, people were worried about the tax credits. And now that and there was a concern that when that went away, that business was going to go away.

But the reality is, because interest rates are so low and renewable energy is so much closer to traditional energy generation, that those investments make a lot more sense than they did even six to eight months ago. And so people are jumping in. And plus, there's just an overriding demand, obviously, for renewable energy. But now, the other economics are making it more favorable than it had previously.

Jon Tanwanteng
Managing Director and Research Analyst, CJS Securities

That makes sense. Thank you. If I could ask one more, you declined to provide guidance for the fourth quarter. Just wondering where the biggest sources of uncertainty are in your revenue earnings projections at this point, halfway through August.

Vic Richey
Chairman and CEO, ESCO Technologies

Yeah, I would say it's really, as we talked about, it's commercial aerospace and if there is going to be any further adjustment. It's really the recovery of the utility business. I think we have great insight on the rest of it. We made assumptions on those two pieces, but we just don't have enough clarity to really say, "This is exactly what we think we're going to do," just because of those two markets are still a little fragile.

Jon Tanwanteng
Managing Director and Research Analyst, CJS Securities

Got it. Fair enough. Thank you.

Vic Richey
Chairman and CEO, ESCO Technologies

Okay.

Operator

Thank you. We do have a follow-up question from the line of Jon Fransreb with Sidoti & Company. Your line is now open.

John Franzreb
Senior Equity Analyst, Sidoti & Company

Yeah, just on the M&A pipeline, it sounded like you were interested in picking off some companies that are interested in the aerospace and defense side of the market. Could you talk a little bit about your appetite for maybe the number of companies you might be looking at on that side of the business and maybe the size of those businesses that you're looking at?

Vic Richey
Chairman and CEO, ESCO Technologies

Yeah, so I don't want you to think we're going after distressed companies because that's not really what we do. I mean, a lot of people do that, but we always say we want to buy a fixer-up, not on purpose anyway, but we want to buy good, solid companies. I'd say I would think more two things. The companies that we're currently looking at are good, solid companies. But for whatever reason, people decide they don't want to weather the storm any longer, and so they look for an opportunity to exit. I'm not saying that we're not paying close attention to other vendors and people that might have some issues, but we're not really, again, looking for troubled companies. As far as the size and number, we're going to take a very cautious approach to make sure.

I mean, we've always been maybe very aggressive on our due diligence to make sure we understand what we're getting, but that's even more the case now, particularly as we look at forecasting. Because, look, we're having a little trouble forecasting our business right now. This is what I was talking with John about a minute ago. So forecasting somebody else's business is even more difficult. I'd say the advantage in the aerospace business is it's a very platform-driven industry. So if you understand exactly what part number somebody's producing, what aircraft are going on, what the build rate is, what the repair cycle is, I mean, there's a number of variables there where you can really get very good insight into what's going on with those businesses.

The other thing I would say is we're focused a bit more on defense aerospace than commercial aerospace because that's really doing exceptionally well. And so if we can find a business that is leaning farther that way, I would say that that would be a preference for us right now, at least for the foreseeable future, because there's a lot more stability in the next couple of years.

John Franzreb
Senior Equity Analyst, Sidoti & Company

Got it. And one last question. It sounded like there might have been some supply chain issues in the quarter. Was that the case? It sounded like you bought some production in-house or are bringing some production in-house. And can you just kind of quantify maybe what impact that was in the quarter as far as to the P&L? Any additional color would be helpful. Thank you.

Vic Richey
Chairman and CEO, ESCO Technologies

Yeah, so we really have not had significant supply chain issues. I think what we were trying to say is we paid close attention to that to make sure that we haven't. But what we have done, and we talk a lot about cost savings, and people think about cost savings. All they ever think about is cutting people, right? And so we think about it a lot in different ways. And one thing that we're looking at is bringing more stuff in-house to insource things. So I had all the businesses go look at everything that they subcontract to an outside vendor and say, "Is this something we can do in-house?" Because the reality is I want to keep as many of our employees employed as possible. And also, it gives you more control over what's going on.

And so I've said to everybody, "Look, if we need to buy additional capital equipment so that we can bring work inside, we should do that." I mean, I think that's a good investment in our business because one thing we know, there's so many things we don't know about COVID, but one thing we do know at some point, it's going to get under control and business is going to get back to normal. And I want to make sure that we're well positioned to take advantage of that. And so the more that we can do in-house where it makes sense, the more I want to do that, both for cost savings, employee retention, and having control of our own destiny.

Gary Muenster
VP and CFO, ESCO Technologies

One thing I'll add to that is the other thing, John, when you go out in that market with big strategy like that, it also makes your supply chain aware you're willing to do that. In some cases, there's been some immediate cost reductions because those suppliers didn't want to lose the business, and we kind of have an algorithm of where that breakpoint is. In some cases that we were looking at bringing things in-house, we actually got better pricing from an existing vendor where we'll get a lower cost structure going forward. I think, to Vic's point, we're pulling on several levers on that side, which I think has been really effective.

John Franzreb
Senior Equity Analyst, Sidoti & Company

Perfect. Excellent. Thanks for the clarification, guys. Appreciate it.

I'm good, John.

Operator

Thank you. This concludes today's question and answer session. I would now like to turn the call back to Vic Richey for closing remarks.

Vic Richey
Chairman and CEO, ESCO Technologies

Okay, so thanks to everybody. Look forward to talking to you on our next call.

Jon Tanwanteng
Managing Director and Research Analyst, CJS Securities

Thank you.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this does conclude today's conference call. You may now disconnect. Everyone have a great day.

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