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Earnings Call: Q3 2017

Aug 8, 2017

Operator

Today, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the ESCO Q3 2017 conference call. Today's call is being recorded. With us today are Vic Richey, Chairman and CEO, Gary Muenster, Vice President and CFO. And now to present the forward-looking statement, I would like to turn the call over to Kate Lowrey, Director of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Kate Lowrey
Director of Investor Relations, ESCO Technologies

Thank you. Statement is made during this call regarding 2017 and beyond EPS, EBITDA, adjusted EBITDA, growth, profitability, sales charges, cash flow, orders, success of new products, success in completing additional acquisitions, the results of recent acquisitions, and other statements which are not strictly historical, are forward-looking statements within the meaning of the safe harbor provisions of the Federal Securities Laws. These statements are based on current expectations and assumptions, and actual results may differ materially from those projected in the forward-looking statements. Due to risks and uncertainties that exist in the company's operation and business environment, including, but not limited to, the risk factors referenced in the company's press release issued today, which will be included as an exhibit to the company's Form 8-K to be filed, we undertake no duty to update or revise any forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events, or otherwise.

In addition, during this call, the company may discuss some non-GAAP financial measures in describing the company's operating results. A reconciliation of these measures to the most comparable GAAP measures can be found in the press release issued today and found on the company's website at www.escotechnologies.com under the link Investor Relations. Now I'll turn the call over to Vic.

Vic Richey
Chairman and CEO, ESCO Technologies

Thanks, Kate, and good afternoon. Before I give my perspective on the results and provide my view of our preliminary outlook for fiscal 2018, I'll turn it over to Gary for a few financial comments.

Gary Muenster
VP and CFO, ESCO Technologies

Thanks, Vic. In May, we projected Q3 EPS in the range of $0.46-$0.51 a share, and we delivered GAAP EPS of $0.49 a share and adjusted EPS of $0.51 a share when normalizing for a few non-recurring charges. The $0.51 hit the top end of our expected range and was primarily driven by the continued strength of our utility solutions group. Doble, once again, outperformed expectations with strong sales of new products such as the DUCe and better-than-expected software and solution sales. PTI and TEC also exceeded expectations, and Test, while coming up short on sales due to a customer-related project and construction timing, delivered a 13% EBIT contribution despite the sales shortfall, which I believe confirms our earlier profit margin expectations resulting from its lower cost structure.

On an adjusted EBITDA basis, we significantly increased our current year contributions compared to the prior year as our Q3 adjusted EBITDA increased nearly 10% to $28 million, and our year-to-date adjusted EBITDA increased nearly 14% to $79 million. Another highlight is the continued strength of our entered orders and the resulting growth in our June 30th backlog, which is up $53 million, or 16% from the start of the year. I'm pleased to report that all four operating segments generated a positive book-to-bill year-to-date, which resulted in a consolidated book-to-bill of 111% through June. On the cash flow and debt front, despite the spending on acquisitions, we continue delivering solid cash flow, which puts our June 30th net debt at $216 million with a very reasonable leverage ratio of 2.2.

We remain well-positioned to achieve our stated long-term financial goals as we continue to see meaningful sales and EBITDA growth across each of our business segments, and we expect to exceed the sales and earnings growth rates of the broader industrial market in general. Moving on to the balance of the year, when we provided our detailed guidance at the beginning of the year, we called out several factors that would be impacting our GAAP EPS, such as non-cash purchase accounting inventory step-up charges and additional amortization of intangible assets. We also noted that our original EBITDA expectations were in the range of $122-$124 million, which was expected to result in an increase of 21%-23% in 2017 over the $101 million of adjusted EBITDA recognized in 2016. This EBITDA range resulted in GAAP EPS of $2.16-$2.26 a share.

Supplementing that original GAAP EPS, we called out $0.30 of inventory step-up charges and additional depreciation and amortization, which negatively impacted GAAP EPS. The favorable aspect of completing Mayday, NRG, and Morgan Schaffer during the year is the sales, earnings, cash, adjusted EBITDA, and ROIC contributions they provide on a full-year basis. The negative aspect of doing these deals at various interim periods throughout the year is the significant amount of non-cash and one-time charges that must be recognized on a GAAP basis, coupled with the acquisition fees and costs. We called out these charges and costs to provide better visibility into the adjusted operating results in Q3 and year-to-date, as well as to quantify their impact on the year in total.

Even though we had a significant amount of M&A activities and related one-time items identified in the current year, the bottom line is that our current outlook for 2017's adjusted EBITDA is consistent with the range we provided at the beginning of the year. While recognizing that our adjusted EBITDA is consistent with the start of the year, our GAAP EPS, which bears all of the M&A costs, purchase accounting charges, acquisition costs and fees, and other non-recurring charges as described in the release, is now expected to be in the range of $2.05-$2.10 a share. The recent acquisitions, coupled with our outlook for organic growth driven by our substantial order backlog, certainly positions us well as we enter 2018.

In closing, while certain one-time charges have a negative impact on our 2017 GAAP EPS, our adjusted EBITDA remains very strong and, again, is consistent with our earlier expectations. I'll be happy to address any specific questions when we get to the Q&A, and now I'll turn it back over to Vic.

Vic Richey
Chairman and CEO, ESCO Technologies

Thanks, Gary. As noted in the release, I'm very pleased with the way our M&A strategy has played out this year. Mayday, NRG, and Morgan Schaffer have each brought along strong operating results, a solid and well-defined growth strategy, and most importantly, top-notch management teams truly committed to our vision and values. The integration is going very well, and I'm really impressed with how quickly our new partners have embraced their expanded roles within our organization. We all know it's not an easy task to move from being a privately owned company to a public company, given all that is asked of them from a reporting, planning, and compliance perspective. I've been impressed with how quickly and professionally our management teams have adapted to this new environment. Mayday has brought us an array of new aerospace products and services and has introduced several additional market opportunities for expanding our growth.

Mayday's on-time delivery, customer service, and customer-recognized manufacturing quality awards complement our existing aerospace offerings. Becoming a part of a larger platform, including our other aerospace businesses, has afforded Mayday additional bid and proposal opportunities. I'm also really excited about our NRG acquisition as it provides an immediate and scalable entry point into the fast-growing renewable energy market. Clean renewable and sustainable energy is a $300 billion+ per year global industry, where approximately 600 gigawatts of new wind capacity and 700 gigawatts of solar capacity are coming online over the next 10 years. NRG also expands our global reach and provides cross-selling opportunities capable of accelerating USG's growth over the next few years.

I'm pleased with NRG's initial results and after spending time with our management team at the Global Wind Energy Conference in San Diego a few months ago, I see a real opportunity to further expand NRG's strong and capable product and solution offerings around wind and solar. Morgan Schaffer has been on our acquisition screen for several years as I've always considered them to have the leading expertise in dissolved gas monitoring, or DGA, equipment. For many years, the global utility market has recognized Morgan Schaffer providing the most accurate and premium DGA equipment and related software and services for monitoring the health of mission-critical oil-filled transformers. Morgan Schaffer not only fits strategically with Doble but also complements NRG by offering capable solutions supporting renewable energy generation.

With Doble, NRG, and Morgan Schaffer joining forces, we now have a world-class solution that I'm confident will create additional opportunities to enhance our corporate-wide growth strategies and further our ability to create additional shareholder value. On the M&A front, we continue to explore additional acquisitions and are encouraged by the opportunities for additional near-term non-organic growth. We continue to look at opportunities to further our USG offerings and to expand our filtration segment's product line with complementary acquisitions clearly aligned with our current portfolio. As with any acquisition opportunity we evaluate, we will remain disciplined in our approach and continue to maintain our focus on generating attractive returns. Since Gary covered the financials, I'll only supplement the numbers with a brief perspective. Doble continues to perform above expectations and, again, delivered strong results. Its new products, especially the DUC, are gaining strong market share.

The DUC is one of the few proven or validated solutions that utilities have to meet the stringent NERC CIP compliance requirements. Our software solutions, along with increased services, are contributing to Doble's success as well, and I'm excited about the pipeline of additional offerings we will be introducing over the next 12-18 months. I'm especially pleased to see Test delivering 13% EBIT in the third quarter despite its lower sales. We've been working for quite a while on its cost structure, and I'm feeling more confident each month that we've validated this incorrectly. The sales slip is autonomy-related as the backlog and significant order book support our near-term outlook. We are somewhat at the mercy of a few large key customers who are installing our technology and continue to be a bit behind their own schedule, which obviously impacts our delivery and installation schedules.

While we had to lower our GAAP EPS for the full year, given the resulting purchase accounting items, other non-recurring costs, and certain product push-outs, which impacted Q3 and Q4, I'm confident that this is merely a stack up of various one-time items which hit us in a very short period of time. Given the diversity and strength of our end markets, we will manage around the negative impact from the acquisition-related and purchase accounting charges, as well as manage around the normal operational and project timing issues, thereby providing us with several clear alternative paths to achieve success. So wrapping up, I'm pleased with our Q3 results as well as our M&A successes, and I'm confident that our near-term growth outlook remains solid.

Our focus remains constant to continue to improve our operational performance and execute on our growth opportunities, both organically and through acquisitions, as this is how we will increase shareholder value. I'll be glad to answer any questions you have now.

Operator

All right. Ladies and gentlemen, if you'd like to ask a question, please press star then one on your touch-tone telephone. If your question has been answered or you'd like to remove yourself from the queue, please press the pound key. One moment while we gather for questions. Our first question is from Jon Tanwanteng from CJS Securities. Your line is now open.

Jon Tanwanteng
Managing Director, CJS Securities

Good afternoon, gentlemen. Thank you for taking my questions.

Gary Muenster
VP and CFO, ESCO Technologies

Hey, Jon.

Jon Tanwanteng
Managing Director, CJS Securities

Can you quantify the revenue impact of the delays and push-outs that you're seeing? How much came out of Q3, and how much is pushing out of the year into 2018?

Gary Muenster
VP and CFO, ESCO Technologies

Well, at the Test business, it's about $6-$7 million moved out of Q3 into Q4, but it kind of just pushes that same amount out of Q4 into the first quarter of next year. So from a second half of the year, it's about $7 million, I guess in round terms would be a fair assessment at Test. And then at Plastique, we had about $500,000 move out of Q4 over in Europe as a customer timing thing, and then maybe about $1 million at Mayday just based on some customer requirements that they wanted after September 30th and before. So in round terms, you could magnify it at $10 million out of Q3 into Q4, and then I'd stick with the $7-$8 million from Q4 into next year.

Jon Tanwanteng
Managing Director, CJS Securities

Okay. Great. That's helpful. And then just on Morgan Schaffer and NRG, how much accretion do you expect from those two in 2018 when you get past these one-time costs? Are there revenue synergy opportunities, cost synergy opportunities? Just help us understand what you expect to get out of these acquisitions.

Gary Muenster
VP and CFO, ESCO Technologies

I'll put some numbers around to Jon, and then I'll let Vic talk about the synergies and what he sees in the market side. So just to remind you on relative size, Morgan Schaffer is about $25 million in revenues, and NRG is about $45 million. And both of those margin contributions, what we're seeing is in the mid-teens. So I think NRG right now has some opportunities going forward that are greater than the past, so I'd be comfortable putting them at 16%-18%, and then Morgan Schaffer kind of in the 13%-15% based on some things there. So if you do that math and hit it at 35% tax into 26 million shares, you'll be able to get what the GAAP EPS is. And the good point is both of those entities, the inventory step-up does not repeat.

It does hit Q4, which is another impact to the way we reflected the guidance because there is another carryover there. But then we go into 2018 clean, so all you'll have there is the incremental depreciation and amortization. So we'll, again, talk about 2018 on an EBITDA basis, but they're both extremely profitable. So I'll defer to Vic on what he sees in the synergies.

Vic Richey
Chairman and CEO, ESCO Technologies

Yeah. So the thing I would say is particularly with Morgan Schaffer, we've been able to consolidate the rep network and distributors, and so we're able to share some there. So that will help. I think it'll also help with the volume side of it as well from revenue generation just because Doble obviously had a larger sales force out there, and I think we'll be able to push more product. It's hard to quantify at this point, but we know something there. We just don't know exactly how much. The other thing is that we were already buying equipment from Morgan Schaffer to put in one of our products. So we'll get a little pickup there. And then the other thing, there was some product development that was underway at Doble that we now won't have to do.

We're still in the process of quantifying how much of all that is. But I think the way I would look at that is kind of take what Gary talked about because that's a given because we've got them for a full year. We're still trying to define how much upside will accrue to that as well.

Jon Tanwanteng
Managing Director, CJS Securities

Okay. Great. Thank you so much. You also mentioned you're active with the M&A pipeline. What end markets are you looking at now? What kind of leverage are you willing to bear if you do find something suitable? Then any concerns over bandwidth given that you're still digesting Mayday and NRG and Morgan Schaffer?

Vic Richey
Chairman and CEO, ESCO Technologies

Well, I would say if things weren't going so well with those integrations, I would have some concern. I would say that the integration efforts have really gone very well. A lot of the reason for that is these companies were, while they were all private companies, I think they were all extremely well-managed. Fortunately, we've been able to maintain the management teams that we have in place. That's something that we do talk about and look at as we're making an acquisition. The areas we look in are the ones that we talked about earlier, and that'd be the Utility Solutions Group and our aerospace group.

Gary Muenster
VP and CFO, ESCO Technologies

Jon, just to circle back on the second part of your question on the leverage, as I said in my prepared remarks, they're worth about 2.2 leverage into trailing EBITDA. And we've made commitments that we're not out there looking to swallow a whale. So these would be sized about the size of the companies we just purchased. And so we would not be pushing ourselves much over 2.5-2.55 leverage. So these aren't $100-something million deals that are going to put us up close to three. And then the other part of it is it's relative to the cash flow that we anticipate by having Morgan and NRG for the whole year. And the way the cash profile looks there, we'll be able to delever relatively quickly over the next couple of years. So let's call it a peak at about 2.5.

And then assuming we don't do anything on the back end of that, we should be able to delever in about 2.5 to three years. Not our goal to go to zero, obviously, but there's plenty of flexibility on the back end of that.

Jon Tanwanteng
Managing Director, CJS Securities

Okay. Got it. And then just one final one, Gary. What's the expected tax rate going forward that you're using?

Gary Muenster
VP and CFO, ESCO Technologies

Well, the nice part of picking up Morgan Schaffer, they're Canadian, and they carry a lower rate than the U.S. Obviously, they're not 50% of the business, obviously, but they have a very nice tax treaty there. Plus, as we see growth at Plastique and some of the investments we've made there, whether it's the U.K. or Poland has a lower tax rate. So we're getting comfortable that it's 33.5%-34.5%, which is a point lower than our projections have been in the past. So getting that foreign contribution benefits us on the tax rate. Again, that's all assuming there's no tax reform. That's kind of how we look at next year and beyond.

Jon Tanwanteng
Managing Director, CJS Securities

Great. Thank you so much.

Operator

Our next question comes from Liam Burke with FBR Capital. The line is now open.

Liam Burke
Managing Director, FBR Capital Markets

Thank you. Good afternoon. On the Test front, you mentioned projects being deferred to fourth quarter, possibly first quarter 2018. Does that dramatically or once those projects come in, do they dramatically affect your profit margins based on product mix? Or have you done enough to reduce costs to hold that current margin?

Vic Richey
Chairman and CEO, ESCO Technologies

I think the margin will be okay. If you have mixes, always a little bit of an issue. But I'd say certainly in the near term, it's not going to be a big issue because we've already kind of dialed in what our expectations are. And the other thing is getting some of the costs out, particularly in Europe, has helped a good bit on the cost structure. And I think that's what we've seen in the third quarter and what we're looking for in the fourth quarter as well.

Liam Burke
Managing Director, FBR Capital Markets

Okay. On the filtration side, aerospace is a large percentage of the business. The market seems to be doing pretty well. Do you see any pricing softness at all?

Vic Richey
Chairman and CEO, ESCO Technologies

Really, knock on wood, I have not seen a lot of that. I mean, the reality is once you get on these big projects, you're on them, and the contracts are usually pretty long-term, and you have the clauses in there for escalation or, in some cases, de-escalation as the volumes go up. But the competition you really see is getting on those projects upfront and how much of the non-recurring costs you're willing to take and how much up you're willing to share, that type of thing. So the real pricing is getting on the projects.

Liam Burke
Managing Director, FBR Capital Markets

Great. Thank you very much.

Operator

And once again, if you have any questions for Q&A, make sure to hit star then one on your touch-tone telephone if you'd like to enter the queue. If your question has already been answered or you'd like to remove yourself from the queue, just hit the pound sign. Last question comes from Ethan Potasnick from Needham. The line is now open.

Ethan Potasnick
Equity Research Associate, Needham & Company

Yeah. Hi. This is Ethan Potasnick. I'm filling in for Sean Hannan. I was wondering if we could go back to just about commercial aerospace. I was wondering if you could elaborate on the business momentum you guys are seeing and whether or not it's accelerating at all in the near or medium term, or should we kind of assume that the recent business levels are going to persist?

Vic Richey
Chairman and CEO, ESCO Technologies

Yeah. I would not say we see an acceleration. I mean, we're seeing a little challenges just on some of the timing of the delivery ramps, the A350. We get a lot of orders, but they aren't building as fast as what they projected. I would not anticipate there'd be a big ramp-up versus what we're seeing today. The orders are there with the aerospace manufacturer, so we're very confident those things are going to happen because both Boeing and Airbus have huge backlogs. And so the business is out there. So it really just comes down to timing that. Honestly, I don't see anything that's going to say, "Boy, it's going to grow a lot faster," than what we've seen over the past year or so.

Ethan Potasnick
Equity Research Associate, Needham & Company

Okay. Got it. And then with regards to Doble, performance has been a little up and down. So with the current activities and leadership you guys have in place today, when do you feel you have high confidence this business is securely on a more stable 10% growth path? Or do you guys kind of feel like you're in that position today?

Vic Richey
Chairman and CEO, ESCO Technologies

Yeah. I'm very comfortable with the management team we have there, with the focus we have. Fortunately, we don't have a lot of big one-off projects at Doble. There's a few that are larger than others, obviously. But it's not like our Test business where we'll have a project that could be 10% of sales for a year. I mean, these are typically much smaller contracts, either for products or services. So I think we're in a position to really move the business forward. I think we have good cost controls in place. And then with the addition of the acquisitions, I think we'll get a little leverage on that as well.

Ethan Potasnick
Equity Research Associate, Needham & Company

Okay. Thank you.

Vic Richey
Chairman and CEO, ESCO Technologies

You're welcome.

Operator

Our next question comes from Sean Nicholson from SBH. Your line is now open.

Sean Nicholson
Analyst, SBH

Hey. Good afternoon, guys.

Vic Richey
Chairman and CEO, ESCO Technologies

Hey, Sean. Sure.

Sean Nicholson
Analyst, SBH

Just a couple of questions on M&A, just going back to that. From a valuation perspective and just the pricing that you guys are seeing, I don't know if the pipeline's filling up enough to where you feel like these are reasonable valuations that make sense. And maybe talk to how they compare to NRG and Morgan Schaffer.

Vic Richey
Chairman and CEO, ESCO Technologies

The Morgan Schaffer was a little more competitive than some of the others, I would say. I'd say we paid full price for that. But it was really something that we needed to have in our portfolio. As you know, there's only or as you may know, there's really only three DGA manufacturers in the world that really have substance, and they were the last one that was available. I would say that other than that, the other acquisitions that we've made have been probably a little more reasonable from a multiple perspective than what we've even seen in the past. A lot of that has just been finding the right companies at the right time. Things that we're looking at today, I would say, are more consistent with that.

While there's always competition out there, I'd say that the multiples that we're seeing are not that obnoxious. I would say it probably would be better than they were even six or eight months ago.

Sean Nicholson
Analyst, SBH

Okay. Great. And then just on the EBITDA growth, obviously, you guys have been growing EBITDA, it looks like, double digits over last year. Obviously, the backlogs there going into 2018. I mean, from an EBITDA growth perspective on just the organic that's in place today, how should we think about that going into 2018, particularly just from putting M&A aside? Is that trend sustainable with this backlog and kind of the book-to-bill you guys have been putting up?

Vic Richey
Chairman and CEO, ESCO Technologies

Yeah. I'd say as we obviously, we're not totally wrapped up on our planning stuff for 2018, but I'd say there's optimism there relative to what we're looking at across the platforms because the beauty of our diversity is that while everything doesn't go great at the same time, it doesn't go brown at the same time either. So we see nice pockets of growth across the platform. And while the organic growth is reasonable, I think what's really going to benefit us on the full-year basis is having acquisitions on the inorganic side. From an EBITDA perspective, while we're getting dinged this year for having these extraordinary costs in a short period of time, the beauty of it is they're behind us next year. And then you get a 12 month contribution on those deals that we just acquired.

So when you look at EBITDA just on apples-to-apples basis and at the moment, don't bifurcate it between organic and inorganic. There's going to be substantial EBITDA growth provided by the new partners, having them for the whole year, supplemented by the organic growth. So I think as we frame up 2018, just the favorable calendar and having these things for 12 months versus 3.5 or 4.5, things like that works to our benefit. And then some of the noise goes away. And then, as Vic said, little things that add up, not having to spend money on R&D at Doble, on things we were doing that now Morgan Schaffer has. So there's some costs that kind of just go away naturally by attrition, by some of the other things we're doing.

While we don't have a stake in the ground yet, it's a pretty attractive feeling as we're seeing 2018 shape up. We'll have that tied down here in the next month or so as we have our planning in mid-September. So we feel pretty good about it.

Sean Nicholson
Analyst, SBH

Okay. That's great. And I was kind of looking at just from a just kind of maybe an opinion, just the multiple you guys trade at a discount seemingly to kind of the peer group. And from an EBITDA multiple, and obviously, if you're growing double digits, then clearly, even if you shift out to 2018, there's quite a bit of upside just applying a normalized EBITDA for peer group. And some deals in M&A are getting done at much higher levels. What do you guys I mean, do you guys feel like there's still a disconnect between the valuation that you get in the market versus kind of the growth you're putting up and the margin profile?

Vic Richey
Chairman and CEO, ESCO Technologies

Yeah. I mean, I think it's getting better than it has in the past. I think we're getting recognized for the growth. And so, yeah, we are seeing businesses trade over the last 12 months at 14 and 15 times EBITDA. And we're below that. But as a growing concern, it seems okay for the moment. But I think if we can replicate some growth here in 2018 based on the things we just talked about, it would be hard-pressed for your side of the phone to not appreciate that value and see that there's something sustainable there. So whether that's 14 times EBITDA or 15 times relative to peer group trading, that's kind of your guys' decision, not ours.

We're going to demonstrate one part of the equation, which is getting the EBITDA up at a meaningful level and then make it sustainable and predictable and all that fun stuff. And then we would hope that the market appreciates that and sees what peers trade at. And as we get larger, I think we get on more people's radar screens. And just the simple function of having sales at a not it's $1 billion, but we're a lot closer to $1 billion as we migrate forward and get an EBITDA, it makes sense that the multiple ought to increase commensurate with the other growth we have. But that kind of more relies on your side of the formula. But we are at a discount to our peers.

I think if you look across the sell-side universe and the people who, whether it's our definition of the peer group or their definition of the peer group, we would be in the lower half on valuation of EBITDA into a multiple. So it certainly feels like there's upside to that, but that's your guys' decision.

Sean Nicholson
Analyst, SBH

Gotcha. I appreciate that. Thanks, guys.

Vic Richey
Chairman and CEO, ESCO Technologies

Thanks, Sean.

Operator

I'm showing no further questions at this time. I'd like to turn it back to the speakers for closing remarks.

Vic Richey
Chairman and CEO, ESCO Technologies

Okay. Thanks, everybody. I look forward to talking to you on the next call.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this does conclude the program for today. You may always disconnect. Everyone, have a great day.

Vic Richey
Chairman and CEO, ESCO Technologies

Thanks.

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