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Earnings Call: Q2 2018

Feb 7, 2018

Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the second quarter fiscal 2018 pSivida earnings conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, we will conduct a question and answer session, and instructions for how to participate will follow at that time. If anyone should require assistance during the conference, please press star then zero on your touchtone telephone. As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded. I'd now like to introduce your host for today's conference, Mr. Doug Sherk. Sir, you may begin.

Doug Sherk
Founder and CEO, EVC Group

Thank you, Jimmy. Good afternoon, everyone. Thank you for joining us today to review pSivida's fiscal 2018 second quarter results for the quarterly period that ended December 31, 2017, as well as recent corporate developments. Making prepared remarks on today's call are Nancy Lurker, pSivida's President and Chief Executive Officer, Len Ross, Vice President of Finance and Principal Accounting Officer, Dr. Dario Paggiarino, Vice President and Chief Medical Officer, Deb Jorn, Executive Vice President. In addition, Greg Milov, Chief Financial Officer, is with us and will be available during the Q&A session. Before we begin, I'd like to remind you that all statements other than statements of historical fact are forward-looking statements. We cannot guarantee you that the results and other expectations expressed, anticipated, or implied will be realized. Actual results could differ materially from those anticipated, estimated, or projected in the forward-looking statements.

For a more detailed discussion of risk factors that can impact our future results and financial condition, we refer you to pSivida's filings with the SEC, including its annual report on Form 10-K. The company undertakes no obligation to update any forward-looking statement in order to reflect events or circumstances that may arise after this conference call. Now I would like to turn the call over to pSivida's President and Chief Executive Officer, Nancy Lurker.

Nancy Lurker
President and CEO, pSivida

Thank you, Doug. Good afternoon, everyone. I appreciate everyone taking the time to join us to review our 2018 fiscal second quarter results, our recent operating and clinical achievements, as well as an outline of our anticipated milestones. We've got a lot of exciting events ahead of us in 2018. Since we last spoke in November, we filed our new drug application, or NDA, with the U.S. Food and Drug Administration for Durasert 3-year treatment for posterior segment uveitis. This is the most significant achievement since I joined as CEO in September 2016. This filing represents a major milestone towards achieving our new business model of transforming pSivida into a fully integrated commercial-stage pharmaceutical enterprise. Launching Durasert, our lead product candidate in the U.S., allows us to maximize our assets.

We anticipate to hear back from the FDA early next month that our NDA is complete and accepted for review. If the normal FDA timeline is maintained, pending approval, we expect to launch Durasert in the United States this time next year. We look forward to working with the regulatory approval authorities on our submission. Earlier today, we also announced that our second phase III study maintained a positive efficacy and safety profile through 12 months. These continued positive data clearly strengthens our approach with retinal specialists. At this point, I would like to ask Dr. Dario Paggiarino, our Chief Medical Officer, to provide a summary of the key efficacy and safety results from this study, as well as an update on the numerous presentations of data at industry conferences during the past few months. Dario?

Dario Paggiarino
VP and Chief Medical Officer, pSivida

Thank you, Nancy. Good afternoon, everyone. The second phase III study involved 153 patients with posterior segment uveitis, and the primary endpoint was prevention of recurrence of posterior uveitis at 6 months, with patients continuing to be followed for 36 months. Through the 12-month time point, Durasert, the three-year insert, confirmed a significant reduction in the recurrence of uveitis. 36.6% of Durasert-treated patients had a recurrence, compared to 71.2% of patients in the sham group, with a p-value of less than 0.001. Our results have continued to demonstrate the positive efficacy with Durasert in treating this devastating disease. We are pleased that as our first pivotal study at 12 months showing continued positive efficacy over sham, our second pivotal study also shows positive efficacy over sham at 12 months. Moving now on to the safety data. At 12 months, the mean intraocular pressure, IOP increase, was small.

2.0 and 0 millimeters of mercury over a baseline of IOP of 13.3 and 13.1 millimeters for Durasert and sham respectively. Patients requiring IOP-lowering therapy at any time during the first 12 months follow-up were 50.5% for Durasert and 51.9% for sham. Only one subject assigned to Durasert required IOP surgery during the first 12 months of follow-up. In phakic patients, those with a natural lens at baseline, 18% in the Durasert group required cataract surgery through 12 months, compared to 8.6% in the sham group. I would like to add that this data continues to show safety data in line with the expected side effects of corticosteroids. This is now confirmed in our 12-month data for our second pivotal study. As Nancy mentioned, during the past several months, leading retina specialists presented other Durasert data at prestigious medical conferences.

Dr. Careen Lowder from the Cleveland Clinic Cole Eye Institute presented data at the American Academy of Ophthalmology, or AAO, conference. Dr. Lowder's abstract title, fluocinolone acetonide intravitreal insert in non-infectious posterior segment uveitis: 12 month safety results, concluded the Durasert three-year treatment for posterior segment uveitis could provide long-term inflammation control with an in-office based injection procedure and acceptable safety profile. More recently, Dr. Glenn Jaffe, Chief Division of Retinal Ophthalmology at Duke University, presented at the American Uveitis Society winter meeting. In his presentation titled, Phase III study of an injectable fluocinolone implant to treat intermediate, posterior and panuveitis, he concluded that the Durasert insert provided continuous inflammation control with no unanticipated side effects that were manageable using standard therapies. We look forward to other presentation by retinal specialists as calendar 2018 unfolds. I will turn the call back to Nancy.

Nancy Lurker
President and CEO, pSivida

Thank you, Dario. As we've demonstrated, our technology is proven, and EyePoint has already received FDA approval for three of the four sustained release drugs approved for back of the eye diseases. Currently, patients with posterior segment uveitis have limited treatment options, and the standard of care is frequent injections of steroids or an implant that lasts only two to three months with a list price of $1,400 per device. Over a three-year period, this approach would cost nearly $17,000. Uveitis is the third leading cause of blindness and a disease that impacts approximately 80,000-100,000 patients in the U.S. I want to just stress again how serious this disease is and the limited treatment options that exist today, and that is why we are very excited about bringing our Durasert uveitis product to the market. Our data continues to demonstrate very good results.

As I noted earlier, we submitted our NDA in January, and the FDA also granted our request for a small business waiver of the Prescription Drug User Fee Act or the PDUFA fee. This waiver frees up approximately $2.4 million in resources that can be refocused on the initial preparations for our anticipated launch. I'd like to now turn the call over to Deb Jorn, who is our Executive VP of Corporate and Commercial Development, to outline some of the commercial strategies we are preparing to deploy. Going forward, you will begin to hear more from Deb and our commercial team as we begin our launch preparations. Deb?

Deb Jorn
EVP of Corporate and Commercial Development, pSivida

Okay. Thank you, Nancy. Good afternoon to all the listeners on today's call and webcast. With the submission of our NDA, the team is now solidifying our go-to-market plan in the U.S. for the Durasert three-year product for posterior segment uveitis. We continue to receive a very high level of interest in the product from retina and uveitis specialists. During recent medical society meetings, including the American Academy of Ophthalmology, the American Uveitis Society, and Hawaiian Eye, specialists have provided positive feedback based on the study results presented to date. As previously mentioned, the product profile was tested with other clinicians as well based on the 6 and 12 months data from the first phase III study. The level of interest in using the product ranged from an 8 to a 10 on a scale of 1 to 10 representing high intent to use the product.

We remain very excited about those results. During the fiscal first quarter, we opened our commercial offices in New Jersey, a strategic location necessary to recruit a sales team since this is where major pharma companies have their global headquarters. Our plan is to hire the internal sales and marketing management teams in the coming months. Once these teams are in place, we will finalize selection of a contract sales organization referred to as a CSO. It's important to note that our internal sales management team will lead the efforts along with the CSO to build a dedicated EyePoint sales force. This will include screening and interviewing of all potential candidates to ensure strong hires. Initially, the CSO will hire 8 to 10 representatives. Given the limited size of the target audience, the maximum number of representatives we foresee being needed will be in the 15 to 20 range.

We have also begun our pricing and reimbursement assessments and feel confident the product will likely be covered by a broad range of payers following approval by the FDA. There is high unmet need in the posterior uveitis area, and steroids are still considered mainstays of therapy. We are excited to have the potential to bring this new product to patients who need it and provide doctors with a potential new treatment choice. Our launch in the U.S. will also allow us to reach our goal of transforming pSivida into a fully integrated commercial ophthalmology company. Thank you, and now I'll turn the call back over to Nancy.

Nancy Lurker
President and CEO, pSivida

Thank you, Deb. Of key importance to pSivida's long-term success are collaboration agreements, we continue to be active in this area. As many of you already know, we entered into agreements with two pharmaceutical companies in September and October for front of the eye diseases, namely glaucoma. These are proof of concept collaborations that, if successful, will provide us with the potential to expand into larger and more lucrative arrangements, as well as to bolster our development pipeline. Something I want to highlight is the progress of our next generation Durasert shorter duration product for uveitis.

We've mentioned before that having the ability to deliver a nine-month shorter duration product in addition to our three-year product has significant value for physicians because it would provide greater flexibility to adjust treatment options to individual clinical needs. This project remains on track, we expect to complete the GLP safety and pharmacokinetic study in the fourth quarter of calendar 2018. In addition, we are making solid progress on a bioerodible Durasert, which we are using with our collaboration partners and in our TKI program for major indications such as glaucoma and wet AMD. The combination of these various delivery devices gives us a unique product family. With regard to our Durasert implant for severe osteoarthritis of the knee, together with the Hospital for Special Surgery, we presented phase I data in December.

Based on the study findings, the implant was well-tolerated and showed potential analgesic effects through the six-month study period. With that, I'll turn the call over to Len for a review of our financial performance. Len.

Len Ross
VP of Finance and Principal Accounting Officer, pSivida

Thank you, Nancy, and good afternoon to everyone. I will briefly review our fiscal second quarter results that we reported following today's close. Revenue for the second fiscal quarter ended December 2017 was $933,000, compared to $6 million for the prior year quarter. The year-ago quarter included revenue recognition of $5.6 million, resulting from termination of our Pfizer collaboration agreement. Excluding the effect of the Pfizer termination, revenue from feasibility study agreements and royalty income increased to $933,000 for the three months ended December 31, 2017, from $387,000 in the prior year quarter. Included in the current quarter revenue was $196,000 of sales-based royalty income received from Alimera. This represents the first quarterly payment under our restructured collaboration agreement that was consummated in July of 2017.

Our second quarter operating expenses were $6.7 million compared to $6.1 million a year earlier. Increased primarily due to professional services costs associated with the NDA filing for Durasert three-year uveitis. Net loss for the quarter ended December 31, 2017, was $5.8 million or $0.13 per share, compared to a net loss of $67,000 or breakeven per share for the prior year quarter. During the second quarter, net cash used from operations totaled approximately $5 million, compared to $6 million in the first fiscal quarter. This net decrease was primarily the result of proceeds received in the second quarter from collaboration partners and new feasibility study agreements. During the fiscal 2018 second quarter, we issued approximately 5.1 million shares of common stock for gross proceeds of approximately $6.2 million through the utilization of our existing at-the-market or ATM program.

At December 31, 2017, cash and cash equivalents totaled $12.9 million. I will now turn the call back over to Nancy for closing comments.

Nancy Lurker
President and CEO, pSivida

Thank you, Len. Before we take questions, let's review our significant near and short-term milestones. These include the potential FDA acceptance for review of the NDA for Durasert three-year for posterior segment uveitis. The potential for FDA's approval of Durasert three-year treatment for posterior segment and assuming a normal review cycle positions us to launch Durasert in the first quarter of calendar 2019, pending a positive review. Third, we expect to present 12-month efficacy and safety data from our just-announced second phase III clinical study at leading medical conferences. We expect to execute one or more new collaboration agreements with biopharmaceutical companies and other third parties. Finally, our shorter duration product for posterior segment uveitis remains on track, and the company expects to complete our GLP safety and pharmacokinetic study.

In summary, we will continue to operate at a high level and achieve our other objectives as they too provide significant value drivers for our company. Operator, we're now ready to take questions.

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, this is the operator once more. If you'd like to ask a question at this time, please hit the star then the number one key on your touch-tone telephone. If your question has been answered or you wish to remove yourself from the queue, please press the pound key. Once again, if you'd like to ask a question, please hit star then one on your touch-tone telephone. Our first question comes from Andrew D'Silva from B. Riley FBR. Your line is now open.

Nancy Lurker
President and CEO, pSivida

Hi, Andrew. Andrew, are you there? Operator, why don't we wait? Maybe there's a mute issue on Andrew's side and go to the next question if there are any.

Andrew D'Silva
Analyst, B. Riley FBR

I'm sorry, I was muted out.

Nancy Lurker
President and CEO, pSivida

Hi.

Andrew D'Silva
Analyst, B. Riley FBR

Can you hear me? I'm sorry.

Nancy Lurker
President and CEO, pSivida

Yes.

Andrew D'Silva
Analyst, B. Riley FBR

Good afternoon. I apologize. I was muted out and did not realize it. Congrats on the positive data, by the way. I just wanted to confirm, if everything goes as planned, you should still expect to receive approval in the fourth calendar quarter of this year for Durasert, correct?

Nancy Lurker
President and CEO, pSivida

Well, Andrew, actually, let me just say this. We don't know for sure because if you just do the math, we would expect to receive potentially the FDA acceptance in the first part of March, and then it's a 10-month cycle from there, which technically takes us into January. That's not to rule out that it could potentially come sooner, but right now more feasible is a very early January approval.

Andrew D'Silva
Analyst, B. Riley FBR

Okay. Got it. Perfect. I just wanted to make sure I was articulating that correctly. Just a couple of quick bookkeeping questions. Could you let me know what your stock-based compensation, depreciation, and amortization, as well as your cash flow from operations and CapEx, was for the period? While you're pulling that up, was there a reason royalty income was so high if Alimera was only $196,000 for the quarter? Was there something else in royalty income that was one time in nature, or should we think about another stream of revenue going forward?

Len Ross
VP of Finance and Principal Accounting Officer, pSivida

Andrew, first on the royalty question. As you will recall, we've had royalty income from RETISERT product that's licensed to Bausch + Lomb for several years now. Because of the new restructured Alimera agreement, we're now effectively receiving royalties from them as opposed to the net profit share that we were entitled to previously. As we disclosed in our 10-Q filing last quarter, starting this quarter, which was the first quarter that we received the royalty income, we're classifying that as royalty income, where in the past, the monies from Alimera were treated as collaborative research and development revenue.

Andrew D'Silva
Analyst, B. Riley FBR

Okay. Got it.

Len Ross
VP of Finance and Principal Accounting Officer, pSivida

With regard to the other questions, on a six-month year-to-date basis, stock-based compensation was $1.3 million. Depreciation was less than $100,000. We did also have, in the six months, amortization of intangible assets of about $360,000, although those finite life intangible assets have now been amortized to zero at the end of the second quarter. As far as cash flow from operations, I think I alluded to that in my prepared remarks. The cash used in operations for the six months year-to-date was $11 million, of which $6 million was in the first quarter, $5 million in the second.

Andrew D'Silva
Analyst, B. Riley FBR

Great. Essentially no CapEx for the quarter then?

Len Ross
VP of Finance and Principal Accounting Officer, pSivida

Very little. CapEx for the six months itself is only around $60,000.

Andrew D'Silva
Analyst, B. Riley FBR

Not material. This is just more of a question from a strategic standpoint, I guess. When we're looking at where you stand in the space, are there any restrictions outside of fluocinolone alone that exist due to the Alimera relationship? It doesn't carry over to all corticosteroids. You can use other types of corticosteroids in your sustained release technologies and target other eye conditions. That's an accurate statement, correct?

Nancy Lurker
President and CEO, pSivida

We licensed to Alimera. This was done, of course, a number of years ago. We out-licensed Alimera all back of the eye diseases utilizing Durasert with a corticosteroid with the exception of uveitis.

Andrew D'Silva
Analyst, B. Riley FBR

All corticosteroids fall into that bucket.

Nancy Lurker
President and CEO, pSivida

That's correct.

Andrew D'Silva
Analyst, B. Riley FBR

Okay, perfect. This last question. When we start thinking about the shorter-term Durasert, could you maybe let me know what the potential regulatory pathways could be? I'm assuming due to how similar the two devices are that it's probably an option for a much more expedited approval pathway.

Nancy Lurker
President and CEO, pSivida

Yes, that is correct that we are looking at the potential for bioequivalence filing because this is absolutely identical to our three-year. There's no differences whatsoever other than less drug. The current bioequivalence data is a perfect match so far for the period of time that we've been running the PK studies. Dr. Dario Paggiarino, would you like to comment on that at all?

Dario Paggiarino
VP and Chief Medical Officer, pSivida

Yes. Again, in order to achieve a short duration, we basically reconfigure minimally the insert, and the insert is essentially performing in vitro in a way equivalent and expected compared to the three-year insert. As we collect the data, we're building confidence that this is an achievable goal.

Andrew D'Silva
Analyst, B. Riley FBR

Okay, perfect. Thank you very much. Good luck going forward.

Nancy Lurker
President and CEO, pSivida

Thank you very much.

Dario Paggiarino
VP and Chief Medical Officer, pSivida

Thank you.

Nancy Lurker
President and CEO, pSivida

Operator, any next questions?

Operator

Yes, ma'am. Our next question comes from Suraj Kalia from Northland Securities. Your line is now open.

Suraj Kalia
Analyst, Northland Securities

Good afternoon, everyone.

Nancy Lurker
President and CEO, pSivida

Hi, Suraj.

Suraj Kalia
Analyst, Northland Securities

Thank you for taking-- Hi, Nancy. How are you?

Nancy Lurker
President and CEO, pSivida

Very good.

Suraj Kalia
Analyst, Northland Securities

Bunch of questions. Bear with me on this. The first one, either for Dr. Dario or for Nancy. What was the BCVA at 12 months in the second uveitis study? I remember in the first one, you guys had given that number at 22.4% versus sham at 10.3. If you all can give the numbers in the second study.

Nancy Lurker
President and CEO, pSivida

Yeah, we just unblinded this, so we have not done a subcut on that yet. We would expect that we would announce and then obviously present those data at upcoming congresses. However, Dario, you want to just comment? Given the performance that we've seen in the second study, we don't expect to see material differences. Do you want to comment, Dario?

Dario Paggiarino
VP and Chief Medical Officer, pSivida

Yeah. As you remember, these are patients who have relatively quiescent uveitis to begin with, and so their baseline visual acuity is fairly good. Indeed, we really don't expect a dramatic overall, if you look at the whole population in each study, we don't expect a significant increase in visual acuity. That's really what we expect also for the second study.

Nancy Lurker
President and CEO, pSivida

Let me just reiterate that. As Dr. Glenn Jaffe said, last year when we presented our 12-month data from the first study, when your baseline data in the majority of these patients is normal, it's pretty hard to improve on normal. These patients, I just want to remind everyone, these studies were not recruited to measure BCVA. It was recruited for incidents of recurrence of uveitis. That was the primary endpoint. I just want to caution, and it's not even a secondary endpoint. I want to just caution that, there was no statistical power given to BCVA. Nevertheless, the data are interesting. We do expect that we'll be disclosing that as we begin to look at the data.

Suraj Kalia
Analyst, Northland Securities

Got it. Dr. Dario, maybe this is just more of an academic question. My understanding always, specifically on IOP in these patients is the IOP, the standard deviation could be whatever, 2 to 6 millimeters of mercury. I guess where I'm headed is for the first phase III study and the second phase III study, we know what the mean is, and we know what the P values are. Are the standard deviations of IOPs relatively similar between the two cohorts?

Dario Paggiarino
VP and Chief Medical Officer, pSivida

I don't recall significant differences in the standard deviation. No, the answer is no.

Suraj Kalia
Analyst, Northland Securities

Okay. What is the longest, what's the word I'm looking for? Follow-up you all have done in the first phase III study, and are you all in a position to give us, I know there are 12-month data between the two, which is pretty similar. The longest follow-up from the first phase I, is that touching the 2-year mark? Any color you all can provide there?

Dario Paggiarino
VP and Chief Medical Officer, pSivida

Not really in terms of data. There are patients, obviously, that have reached even the three-year mark, actually, for the first study. In terms of the data, we'll really have to have a complete data set in order to be able to really make a fair assessment of what the IOP trend. I think that's what you're referring to, is the IOP trending in any way past the 12 months. I think at this point, it will be too early to comment on that.

Suraj Kalia
Analyst, Northland Securities

It wouldn't be fair to say after 12 months, the curves start becoming somewhat asymptotic or flattening out, for lack of better words. We are not in a position yet to say that. Is that fair?

Dario Paggiarino
VP and Chief Medical Officer, pSivida

Well, what I can say, though, is in talking with the investigators, especially Glenn Jaffe, recently, when you get to the nine-month time point, you pretty much have seen what patients are actually going to be a risk of developing an IOP increase. My expectation is that past the 12 months, we shouldn't really see a significant increase incremental to what we have seen so far. That's, again, based on the experience from investigators and clinicians like Glenn Jaffe.

Suraj Kalia
Analyst, Northland Securities

Got it. Nancy, a multi-pronged question for you. Help me understand the strategic rationale. Obviously, I know you'll have done a pretty in-depth market analysis. To the extent that you can you walk us through what are the concerns, if any, you're hearing about pricing dynamics? That's one. The second part is you're obviously working on the nine-month implant, and then you're working on a bioerodible one. Why take it three years, nine months bioerodible? Does it make sense three years is already there and then leapfrog it to the bioerodible one? I'm curious on your strategic rationale to go down that road.

Nancy Lurker
President and CEO, pSivida

Yeah. Let me first clarify something. For uveitis, the bioerodible is being used in our collaboration agreements and in our TKI program for our 6 months, and mostly people were aiming for 6 months on the bioerodible. For uveitis, we are going to market with the exact same device that we have with our 3-year. Remember, the 3-year is non-erodible.

Suraj Kalia
Analyst, Northland Securities

Mm-hmm. Right.

Nancy Lurker
President and CEO, pSivida

The good news is that with our partner, Alimera, even though it's in DME, let me caution, it's different disease states, ILUVIEN continues to show very good safety with the 3-year non-erodible. That being said, we do believe that there remains a market, as with almost every drug category I've ever been involved with, that doctors want dosing options. Though the 3-year is very important, there still remains a need to have a shorter duration that's longer than the current generic steroids, which last about one month, one of the competitors that lasts two to three months. Yet patients, what doctors want is they'd like it to go out longer. Ideally, what we've heard consistently is they will always use a generic first line. Let me be very clear. That's going to continue to be first line use in the treatment of this disease.

After the patient is stabilized, in uveitis I'm talking now, they want to be able to go, in some cases, they'll go right to the 3-year, but in some cases, they want a stepping stone to be able to go to a 6 or 9-month, in this case, it looks like we're trending more to a 9-month, and then transition to the 3-year. This is not atypical from any of the other disease states, whether it's hypertension, cardiovascular disease, depression, I could go on and on. Anytime you have a chronic disease, dosing options are important, and we want to provide that flexibility to doctors. I'm actually going to turn the pricing question over to Deb Jorn, who's in charge, of course, of all of our commercialization strategies. Deb?

Deb Jorn
EVP of Corporate and Commercial Development, pSivida

Hi, Suraj. We have gone out and done payer research. As you may know, this is going to be under a medical benefit, not a drug benefit. Speaking to those customers, what we found was that most of them indicated that the product profile, the disease being relatively limited patient population, but the need being highly unmet. They saw the value of the product, and at the end of those interviews, the question we would ask is, "How likely or unlikely are you to see this product being listed as a medical benefit under your coverage?" In those groups of discussions, every payer we spoke to indicated that this would be something that would highly likely to be placed on their medical benefit formulary. With that whole wide range of payer segments. Pretty positive results.

I've been involved with a lot of products where you're looking at drug benefit, and it certainly is a much more difficult negotiation.

Suraj Kalia
Analyst, Northland Securities

Great.

Nancy Lurker
President and CEO, pSivida

Yeah, I want to reiterate something, too, to add to Deb's comments, which is that, I can't stress this enough because having been associated with many different drug categories and launches, when you're talking about preventing blindness, the payers take that very seriously as well. This is not a lifestyle drug. This is not something that is a disease that takes a long time to develop. You can rather rapidly deteriorate the eyesight in uveitis. They take it very seriously. As a result, we don't expect serious pricing pushback.

Suraj Kalia
Analyst, Northland Securities

Got it. Finally, Nancy, I'll hop back in queue. You and I have talked offline many times on OZURDEX. I guess for the audience at large, can you frame your comments given everything you've seen from the two phase III studies, help us, kind of give us a holistic picture on where OZURDEX is, how their ramp rate was, and what should people glean for pSivida or rather Durasert based on what OZURDEX is on. For the audience, that would be great. Thank you for taking my questions.

Nancy Lurker
President and CEO, pSivida

Okay. Well, first, I'm going to actually turn that one over to Deb as well, as again, she's responsible for commercialization. I just want to make one comment, which is I can't stress enough, we've never done a head-to-head trial. Of course, we're very cautious about the fact that I don't want to do a head-to-head comparison because it wouldn't be appropriate. In terms of commercial expectations and ramp, I'll turn that over to Deb.

Deb Jorn
EVP of Corporate and Commercial Development, pSivida

Well, I go back to the market research that we conducted with TVG. What we saw when we spoke to retina and uveitis specialists was some level of desire to have something that lasted more than three months. Their statement was that they could foresee patients being switched from OZURDEX or started with us perhaps after generic steroids. When asked for source of business, it was RETISERT and OZURDEX. Having said that, it's a little harder to tease out the penetration and the uptake because remember, OZURDEX has other indications.

When you think about the amount of patients that are currently on OZURDEX and looking through the physician for a different option, we think the ramp will be higher than it may have been when OZURDEX first was introduced because the step edit, if you will, in the paradigm, going from injecting every three months to now being able to put something in that holds the line for hopefully three years. We've seen the data through 12 months. We believe that the ramp will be pretty strong. Right now, the sales, you probably saw the other day of OZURDEX came in for the full year 2017, I think it was $311 million. Depending upon the % that you take of that in terms of what is uveitis, it's a pretty sizable business for the product.

Nancy Lurker
President and CEO, pSivida

Yeah. Just to add, that's global sales. I want to caution that.

Deb Jorn
EVP of Corporate and Commercial Development, pSivida

That is true. That is global sales. The U.S. was, I think, I don't remember off the top of my head.

Nancy Lurker
President and CEO, pSivida

That's all right.

Deb Jorn
EVP of Corporate and Commercial Development, pSivida

I think the ex U.S.-

Nancy Lurker
President and CEO, pSivida

That's okay. Yeah.

Deb Jorn
EVP of Corporate and Commercial Development, pSivida

Yeah.

Nancy Lurker
President and CEO, pSivida

Okay. Other questions?

Operator

The next question comes from Yi Chen with H.C. Wainwright. Our line is now open.

Nancy Lurker
President and CEO, pSivida

Hi, Yi.

Yi Chen
Analyst, H.C. Wainwright

Hi, Nancy. Thank you for taking my questions. My first question is, you mentioned that you have received highly positive feedback from specialists regarding the use of Durasert. Can you tell us how many specialists you have reached out for this survey?

Deb Jorn
EVP of Corporate and Commercial Development, pSivida

Okay. For the initial survey, we did approximately 20 doctors. 10 were uveitis and 10 were retina. However, having set up one-on-one meetings at the three recent major meetings, the most recent being the uveitis meeting in January and the Hawaiian Eye Meeting, we've talked to, I don't know, 50 or more in the community. We haven't found anyone that's had major pushback or concern. Some will mention they want to see in their own hands the IOP. The broader community, both in the formal research as well as in the informal meet and greets where we've spent time with specialists at meetings, we've received quite positive feedback. Nancy, you want to add anything?

Nancy Lurker
President and CEO, pSivida

Nope. That sounds good. Nope. That's accurate.

Yi Chen
Analyst, H.C. Wainwright

Thanks. Can you give us any rough idea how many, just for these specialists you have met with, how many posterior uveitis patients that these doctors see on an annual basis, roughly?

Deb Jorn
EVP of Corporate and Commercial Development, pSivida

I think it really depends. The uveitis specialists would see a lot more, and the retina guys less, right? None of those patients might be referred. What we do see is the retina physicians tend to handle a larger % than they used to. There's less need to refer. We know what the prevalence is in the U.S. I don't know that I can break it down to exactly how many each of those particular specialists I spoke to see, because I didn't unfortunately ask that exact question.

Nancy Lurker
President and CEO, pSivida

Let me add, Yi, that we anticipate buying the data, which allows us to break that down very specifically so that we can micro-target the physicians that are the high-value doctors. That's where, again, we're quite confident. Again, Deb is truly an expert at this in terms of being able to go after or focus on the physicians that have the high-volume patient load so that we can very efficiently commercialize this. Again, I want to reiterate, technically, this is an orphan drug, because the incidence is relatively small relative to other diseases, and the number of physicians that treat it are relatively small. Again, we don't expect a big outlay to be able to capture a majority of the market or to target-

Deb Jorn
EVP of Corporate and Commercial Development, pSivida

Yeah

Nancy Lurker
President and CEO, pSivida

a majority of the market.

Deb Jorn
EVP of Corporate and Commercial Development, pSivida

Right. Once we buy the claims data, we've gotten high-level data. We know that the target audience is really tight, the claims data will allow us to see who's exactly coding for uveitis, plus other markers we'll use in picking the crème de la crème of writers. Then, of course, we'll decile those doctors based on the claims data that we will know they're actually treating it, done injections, albeit, of OZURDEX and/or other markers, so that we go to people who really are comfortable with injections, coding for uveitis, and really, therefore, should be the crème de la crème of writers.

Yi Chen
Analyst, H.C. Wainwright

Have you heard from doctors any pushback from patients with phakic eyes? Considering Durasert is a three-year treatment that when the doctors tell the patient with phakic eyes that you may end up with a cataract surgery pretty soon, the patient will not adopt this treatment.

Nancy Lurker
President and CEO, pSivida

Yeah. I'm going to let Dr. Dario Paggiarino answer that question.

Dario Paggiarino
VP and Chief Medical Officer, pSivida

Yes. Steroids are known, whether they're injected intravitreally or they are released in a sustained release fashion. They're known to produce cataract. I think obviously, there's always a concern to produce cataract. The benefit risk, I think, is something that really it's important to highlight here. Because patients with uveitis, every time they have a relapse, a flare in their inflammation, there are risk of losing photoreceptors permanently. Their vision decrease, it is not recoverable. The discussion I think, I understand that physicians, clinicians have with patients, with phakic patients in particular, is really about options and about risk benefit. Cataracts, obviously, it's a, again, common side effect, as I said, expected, but it's also treatable, is also manageable fairly well today, as you know.

Again, in terms of risk benefit, that's something that patients can understand, especially when they're faced with the prospect of losing sight irreversibly.

Yi Chen
Analyst, H.C. Wainwright

Got it. My next question regarding the royalty revenue. In the current quarter, you just reported $196,000 comes from the Alimera sales of ILUVIEN. That leaves the rest, $276,000 coming from RETISERT from Bausch + Lomb sales. I know you previously mentioned that you expect the RETISERT royalty to decline, but it seems that 276 is higher than the previous quarter's $245,000. Is there any change in the trend of RETISERT sales?

Len Ross
VP of Finance and Principal Accounting Officer, pSivida

I think if you look back over the history, it's pretty variable. It's not really easy to predict. I think RETISERT is obviously an earlier generation product. It's been on the market for a long time. It's a surgical procedure, so logic would suggest eventually over time that it would decrease in terms of its use, but it certainly in the last couple of years has been relatively steady.

Deb Jorn
EVP of Corporate and Commercial Development, pSivida

There's also seasonality. Typically in the third quarter, summer, less procedures. I used to work at Bausch + Lomb, so RETISERT can be variable based on seasonality as well.

Yi Chen
Analyst, H.C. Wainwright

Thank you.

Nancy Lurker
President and CEO, pSivida

Okay. Other questions? Yep, go ahead.

Operator

Last question in the queue comes from Francois Brisebois with your line is now open.

Francois Brisebois
Analyst, Oppenheimer

Hey, guys. Thanks for taking the question. Hi. Sorry, I got dropped off a couple of times, so I'm sorry if I missed this, but just wanted to hit a couple of quick one most of them asked, but in terms of the reps, you said 8 to 10 to start. Is there any expectations on when the hiring would start?

Nancy Lurker
President and CEO, pSivida

Deb want to answer that. By the way, let me just add, we very much anticipate to stay on track with what we've always said will be our launch timeframe, which is in the first part of the first quarter of 2019, assuming FDA approval is the normal review process as we've outlined. Go ahead, Deb.

Deb Jorn
EVP of Corporate and Commercial Development, pSivida

As Nancy indicated, right now the go-to-market plan is projecting a launch in the January timeframe of 2019. We would foresee putting the management team up sooner, but the reps probably out somewhere in that fourth quarter timeframe, getting them trained and then ready for launch, right? Because we wouldn't want them out too long without anything initially to promote. The great thing about contract sales organizations is they can move quickly. We will base it on how things develop as the review progresses because we will be in contact with the FDA and regulatory authorities as that review is underway.

Francois Brisebois
Analyst, Oppenheimer

Okay, great. That's helpful. Then just on the 12-month data, it seems like in terms of the recurrence, it seems that the reduction in recurrence is not quite what it was at six months. In the first trial, it seemed kind of steady through six months and 12 months. Is that something that's worrisome at all or is that just have to do with sometimes also the amount of rescue medication that's given to some of these patients?

Dario Paggiarino
VP and Chief Medical Officer, pSivida

Certainly, it may have something to do with that, but in terms of the differential between the active and the sham, it's actually maintained. If you look at the 01 and both 01 and 05 and the difference between the six months, the recurrence rate, between active and sham and in each of the studies, you can tell that although there are some difference because they're different studies and different populations, you can tell that the differential in terms of % between the two treatment arms is very consistent actually.

Nancy Lurker
President and CEO, pSivida

Yeah. Actually, Francois, just to add to that, remember as you look and actually this continue to show in the 12-month data, the second study was done all in India, and it's the sham arm. Actually, the active Durasert arm is remarkably consistent both at six and 12 months and between the two studies. It's the sham arm that is showing the differences. We suspect that we don't know. Again, we're continuing to evaluate this, why the sham is performing better in the second study than the first study. Remember the first study was done mostly in the U.S. and Europe with a small portion in India. The second study is done all in India. There's different treatment paradigms as well as the patients were less ill or healthier eyes than in the first treatment.

Sham seems to be performing better in the second study, but nevertheless, the P value remains incredibly robust.

Dario Paggiarino
VP and Chief Medical Officer, pSivida

Just one more thing. Despite the fact that the sham is doing somewhat better in the 05 India study. If you look at again, a 12-month data, the recurrence rate in the sham now is 71.2%. It start to really catch up fairly quickly.

Francois Brisebois
Analyst, Oppenheimer

Yeah. No, that's very helpful. I appreciate that. Then just lastly, quickly, in terms of the GLP safety PK for the shorter duration, is that pretty straightforward or are there any challenges there that could happen in manufacturing?

Nancy Lurker
President and CEO, pSivida

No, it's pretty straightforward.

Francois Brisebois
Analyst, Oppenheimer

Okay. All right. Well, excellent. That's it for me. Thank you very much.

Nancy Lurker
President and CEO, pSivida

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. I'm showing no further questions in the queue at this time. I'd like to turn the call back over to Nancy Lurker, President and CEO, for any closing remarks.

Nancy Lurker
President and CEO, pSivida

Thank you everyone for your time. Again, I just want to reiterate how excited we are about our NDA filing as well as the additional data on our second study for 12 months. We remain enthused about the different milestones and what's our path forward in 2018. We look forward to keeping you updated, and thank you all for your time.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this does conclude your program and you may all disconnect. Everyone have a great day.