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Earnings Call: Q4 2026

Nov 4, 2026

Summary

FY2026 commercial indicators strengthened despite lower reported revenue, with Enterprise North America invoicing and deferred revenue growth supporting FY2027 expansion. Guidance anticipates higher revenue, adjusted EBITDA, margins, and free cash flow conversion.

Operator

Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your first speaker today, Boyd Roberts, Head of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Boyd Roberts
Head of Investor Relations, Franklin Covey

Thank you. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us today on Franklin Covey's fourth quarter and fiscal year 2026 earnings call. We appreciate having the opportunity to connect with you. Before we begin, please remember that today's remarks contain forward-looking statements as defined by the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995, including, without limitation, statements regarding our fiscal 2027 guidance and other statements that may predict, forecast, indicate, or imply future results, performance, or achievements, and may contain words such as believe, anticipate, expect, estimate, project, or words or phrases of similar meaning.

These statements reflect management's current judgment and analysis and are subject to a variety of risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from current expectations, including but not limited to risks related to macroeconomic and geopolitical conditions, the timing of client and government funding decisions, the transition of our China operations, the success of our go-to-market and product investments, and other risk factors described in our most recent Form 10-K and other filings made with the SEC. We undertake no obligation to update or revise any forward-looking statements, except as required by law. With that, I'd like to turn it over to Mr. Paul Walker, our Chief Executive Officer.

Paul Walker
CEO, Franklin Covey

Thank you, Boyd. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. If I were to summarize fiscal 2026 in one sentence, it would be this: The transformation investments we made have gained traction and are producing results, positioning us for growth in fiscal 2027. For the full year of fiscal 2026, revenue was $261.5 million, within the guidance we revised on our third quarter call, and adjusted EBITDA was $28.9 million, within our original guidance range. In the fourth quarter, adjusted EBITDA grew 9% to $12.8 million. Those results matter, but the more important story for fiscal 2027 is what's happening beneath them. In Enterprise North America, our largest business and the main focus of our investment, fiscal 2026 invoiced amounts grew 4% to $151.4 million, and deferred revenue grew 17% to $59.2 million.

That growth is already on our books, establishing a strong foundation for the revenue and adjusted EBITDA growth we expect in fiscal 2027. I would like to focus on three themes today, which you can see reflected on slide three. The first theme is related to our business in Enterprise North America. Enterprise North America has a resilient core, our go-to-market transformation there is working, and we are accelerating our investment to further build on the invoice growth we achieved last year. The second theme I will focus on is that our education business is a proven platform which has achieved significant growth over time, and we expect it to return to meaningful growth. Third, in the age of AI, the human edge, mattering, matters more than ever, and that makes our business even more durable. Diving into these themes.

First, the first theme, Enterprise North America and its resilient core and the success of our go-to-market transformation. Enterprise North America accounts for approximately 80% of our Enterprise Division revenue and more than half of the total company revenue. It is the engine we reorganized and invested in to accelerate growth, and we expect it to drive the majority of our revenue growth in fiscal 2027. As shown on slide four, the core of this business has been resilient, growing 30% since fiscal 2021, or 5% compounded. Over the last few years, it has absorbed a pullback in federal government spending, the impact of our own go-to-market transformation, and a cooling in demand for unconscious bias training after the surge that followed 2020. Excluding our federal government and unconscious bias business, our core Enterprise North America business grew approximately 8% in fiscal 2026. In addition, clients are committing for longer.

60% of our contracted amounts in North America are now under multi-year agreements. As we have discussed throughout the year, much of our invoice growth is recognized over time. We collect the cash as we invoice, but the full benefit shows up in reported revenue over the following quarters. That is why the 4% invoice growth and 17% growth in deferred revenue in Enterprise North America that we built in fiscal 2026 sets a strong foundation for fiscal 2027. We expect growth in both revenue and adjusted EBITDA this year, with adjusted EBITDA growing faster than revenue as we benefit from the operating leverage in our model. To build on that resilient core and accelerate growth in Enterprise North America, we invested in transforming our go-to-market model.

Today, we have dedicated hunters focused on winning new clients and a dedicated farming team focused on retaining and expanding existing relationships, supported by a central sales hub. These bets are working, which you can see reflected on slide five. First, on the hunting side, compared with fiscal 2024, the year before we launched the new model, invoiced amounts per hunter have more than doubled. Each hunter is winning more than 30% new clients, and invoiced amounts per new client are more than 50% higher than they were in the old model. This is driving our growth in invoiced amounts that will flow through to reported revenue growth. Second, on the farming side, the invoiced amounts per farmer are also increasing.

This has driven a significant increase in our invoiced amounts per retained client, which grew in the high single digits this last year as existing clients expanded their work with us. This was partially offset by our client logo retention rate being a couple of points lower than we'd like. This is something that we're putting extra focus on this year. These larger new client deals and growing client relationships reflect the strategic importance clients are placing on the outcomes we're helping them achieve. Clients are bringing us in to help them with bigger challenges and engaging both our experts and our solutions and content. I'll share just two brief stories from the fourth quarter that show what's behind these numbers, one from our hunters and another from our farmers. First, on the hunting side.

This is a story that's exactly the kind of win our dedicated hunting team was built to deliver. A new client engaged at a strategic level, starting with a larger initial commitment. This is a story of a global consumer packaged goods company who partnered with us to accelerate the adoption and execution of its strategy across its commercial operation as it expands its retail footprint. What began as a conversation about aligning field execution with growth objectives quickly became a multi-solution, multi-year enterprise partnership totaling $300,000, well above the size of a typical first engagement for us. The relationship is already growing. Following early momentum and rapid adoption, the client expanded the engagement within weeks of launch, adding a new phase focused on developing senior and mid-level leaders through our leadership solutions and executive coaching services.

That positions their leaders to execute against aggressive expansion targets, and it shows how the relationship our hunters win today becomes the expansion opportunities our farmers grow tomorrow. The second example is on the farming side. As a reminder, our farmers' job is to retain clients and expand our impact within them, and this story is a great example of that. One of the world's largest energy companies has grown a regional engagement with us into a global execution partnership that now spans 10 countries. The work began with operating teams in the Americas, where Franklin Covey helped leaders deliver against aggressive cost and growth targets.

When the executive who sponsored that work was promoted into a global leadership role, he brought Franklin Covey with him, recommending our The four Disciplines of Execution, consulting, and coaching to the company's senior leadership as a system for delivering on a major company priority.

The client's success across that initial deployment is now leading to additional work. Pilots across nine business units with the potential to reach tens of thousands of people at more than 200 sites worldwide. This is what drives the high single-digit growth in invoiced amounts per retained client that I mentioned. Clients who see results with our content, our experts, and our technology bring us into more of their organization. Our key bets are working, and in fiscal 2027, we'll enter phase two of our transformation to build upon the traction we've gained. As we continue to invest in these areas, we're also restructuring other areas of the company to ensure that every dollar we spend is focused on the most important growth areas. In fiscal 2027, we're focused in the following areas as we build on the traction we've gained. First, hunters.

We're growing our hunting team by more than 20% this year and plan to keep adding each year. We're backing them with roughly 30% more sales development representatives and a 25% increase in marketing to scale the lead generation that worked in fiscal 2026. Relative to our farmers, our farming team is already sized to support the growth our hunters are delivering, so we don't need to add investments here. Instead, our farmers will be squarely focused on what they do best, retaining and expanding our client relationships. Building on the meaningful improvement in revenue retention we achieved in fiscal 2026, we expect our existing clients to become an even stronger engine of growth at very attractive incremental margins. The third area is our central sales hub. The hub we built as part of this transformation is operating as designed and requires almost no incremental investment.

It will support both teams as they scale. The fourth area is our solutions. We've meaningfully increased our investment in solution development over the past few years, and we plan to increase it again in fiscal 2027, funded within our operating budget, and now being led by our company-wide Chief Product Officer, Sean Covey. Prior to successfully building and running our education business, Sean led all of product development for the company, and we believe this transition will enable us to further bring clients the best content, technology, and AI services to address their mission-critical needs. Because the central hub is already in place and little incremental investment is needed on the farming side, more of each new dollar of revenue in fiscal 2027 and beyond will flow through to profit. That's a key reason that we expect adjusted EBITDA to grow faster than revenue in fiscal 2027.

We're also extending these same go-to-market disciplines to our business in the Enterprise Division in Europe, Japan, and Australia, where we see a similar opportunity to accelerate growth. The second theme I'd like to talk about briefly is related to our education business. Education is a proven platform which has achieved significant growth over time, and we expect it to return to meaningful invoice growth. Our education division grew reported revenue 2% in fiscal 2026 to $76.2 million, driven by subscription growth and more coaching and consulting days delivered. School retention improved to its highest level since 2022, and Leader in Me now serves more than 8,000 schools worldwide. Over the last several years, we've won a number of larger district and statewide commitments in addition to individual schools. That's been very good for the business overall.

However, it can shift timing from one year to the next because district and state funding decisions don't follow our fiscal calendar. Slide six shows how the division has grown over time and separates the core individual school and district sales from very large district and state contracts. This year, a few of those large deals, including the statewide commitment I mentioned on our third quarter call, did not land in fiscal 2026, and that's the primary reason education invoiced amounts declined. However, these opportunities remain in our pipeline, and we expect them to contribute in fiscal 2027. We see no change in underlying demand or in the results schools achieve with Leader in Me. Our focus here is on sharpening sales execution, reaching new schools and districts, increasing renewals, and adapting the disciplines working in Enterprise North America to educators' buying cycles.

To lead this work and build on the tremendous Education Division foundation Sean Covey built, we welcome John Buchanan as Executive Vice President of Education. John joins us from GoGuardian, a leading education technology company, where he led sales and marketing teams that reached more than 50% of U.S. K-12 schools. I am really pleased with John's early progress. With John's leadership and the market demand for outcomes Leader in Me produces, a strong subscription base, and a solid pipeline of opportunities, we expect Education to return to invoice growth in fiscal 2027. The third theme: in the age of AI, the human edge matters more than ever, and that makes our business even more durable. You can see this reflected on slide seven. We believe the opportunity ahead of us is both large and very durable.

AI is making information, analysis, and tools more accessible than ever, but it does not solve one of the hardest problems in business: turning strategy into collective action across an organization. Every organization has pockets of great performance and significant variability everywhere else. One of the biggest opportunities for breakthrough performance for an organization lies in moving the entire performance distribution curve righter and tighter toward the results that the best teams are already achieving. Technology can help identify those pockets of great performance and help to analyze what makes them work. However, it still requires people throughout an organization to change their collective behavior to turn that answer into a result. An organization can have the right strategy, the right technology, and even the right answer, and still fall short if its leaders cannot align people, build trust, change habits, and execute consistently.

As technology becomes more widely available, that ability becomes an even greater differentiator. That is what we mean by the human edge, and our entire focus is on helping organizations build it. We see the value clients place in our solutions in how they work with us. A majority are committing for multiple years. In Enterprise North America, 59% of contracts, representing 60% of contract value, are now for multi-year periods. These clients are not only entering into licenses to use our tools, assessments, and content, but a majority are also engaging our experts to help them ensure their objectives are met. Our value is in the combination of proven frameworks, trusted content, experienced consultants and coaches, and technology. Clients do not make those kind of multi-year commitments for something peripheral. They make them when the outcome really does matter.

We are also building AI into our own solutions, and it will be a powerful part of how we help clients achieve their outcomes. We have substantial room to grow by expanding our work within the many clients we serve today and by capturing new clients within the large markets in which we are focused. I will close by returning to the central point. Fiscal 2026 was a year in which we continued to build a stronger company and in which we saw clear evidence that our investments are producing the results we intended. We have a resilient core, a more productive growth engine, an Education business position to grow, and rising demand for the human edge we help clients build. We are entering fiscal 2027 building on the measurable progress we achieved on our key investment initiatives. The size, duration, and importance of client relationships are expanding.

Our business model is strong, and we expect to see our progress translate into growth in reported revenue, adjusted EBITDA, and cash flow. I am deeply grateful to our clients for their trust and to our associates around the world for their brilliance, hard work, and commitment. With that, I would like to turn over to Jessie to walk through our fourth quarter full-year results and share our outlook for fiscal 2027. Jessie, over to you.

Jessie Betjemann
CFO, Franklin Covey

Great. Thanks, Paul, and good afternoon, everyone. Fiscal 2026 was a year in which the investments we made in our people, solutions, and go-to-market model gained traction and produced measurable commercial progress that will shape our fiscal 2027 outlook. As shown in slide eight, revenue for the year finished within the revised guidance range we provided last quarter, and adjusted EBITDA was within both our original and narrowed guidance ranges. I would like to highlight three points at the outset. First, our key leading indicators strengthened. For the full year, consolidated subscription and contractually committed services invoiced amounts grew 9%, and consolidated deferred revenue increased 4%. Importantly, within Enterprise, those subscription and committed services invoiced amounts grew 18%, and deferred revenue in North America grew 17%. Second, we improved our cost structure while continuing to invest in growth.

Operating SG&A declined $7.7 million, helping us achieve a slight increase in full-year adjusted EBITDA, even though reported revenue declined 2%. Third, this progress, coupled with improving revenue retention in both Enterprise and Education divisions, will provide the bridge to revenue, adjusted EBITDA, and cash flow improvement we expect in fiscal 2027. In my remarks today, I will walk through our fiscal year and fourth quarter consolidated and division results, capital allocation priorities, and finish with our fiscal 2027 outlook. Slide nine summarizes our consolidated results for the year. Fiscal 2026 reported revenue was $261.5 million, or $260.4 million in constant currency, within the revised guidance range we provided on our third quarter earnings call. Reported revenue declined 2% year-over-year. Enterprise division revenue decreased 3%, partially offset by 2% growth in Education.

Corporate revenue declined $1.8 million following the loss of sublease income from our other tenants when we exited our former headquarters campus in June 2025. For the fourth quarter, reported revenue was $70 million, compared with $71.2 million a year ago, representing a decline of 2% and within our guidance. Foreign exchange effects on fourth quarter revenue were immaterial. Now let me separate the reported revenue picture from the commercial activity feeding future periods. Importantly, consolidated subscription and contractually committed services invoiced amounts increased 9% to $165.1 million, led by an 18% increase in the Enterprise division to $117.7 million. Our consolidated deferred revenue balance increased 4% to $116.1 million, with a 17% increase in Enterprise North America.

These are important measures because under our subscription and services model, some revenue recognized in fiscal 2026 arose from invoicing in prior periods, while a significant part of what we invoiced this year will become reported revenue in fiscal 2027, as the applicable performance obligations are satisfied. Gross margin was 75% for fiscal 2026, compared with 76.2% last year, and 74.7% in the fourth quarter, compared with 75.5% a year ago. These changes primarily reflect a change in the mix of products sold, increased training and coaching delivery costs, and increased amortization of capitalized curriculum costs. We are pleased that our cost discipline resulted in a 4% or $7.7 million full-year decline in operating SG&A to $167.1 million, reflecting efficiency and restructuring actions taken throughout the year. Fourth quarter operating SG&A decreased 6% to $39.5 million.

Those savings more than offset the decline in gross profit, allowing us to increase adjusted EBITDA modestly despite lower revenue. That cost discipline positions us to deliver operating leverage as revenue returns to growth. Full-year adjusted EBITDA was $28.9 million, or $28.6 million in constant currency, compared with $28.8 million last year. That result was within both our original and narrowed guidance ranges. Adjusted EBITDA margin increased to 11% from 10.8% in fiscal 2025. In the fourth quarter, adjusted EBITDA grew 9% or $1.1 million- $12.8 million, and margin expanded to 18.3% from 16.4%. Foreign exchange effects on fourth quarter adjusted EBITDA were immaterial. During the fourth quarter, we incurred $1.1 million of restructuring expense, principally severance and related costs under the long-term restructuring plan initiated in our second quarter, bringing full-year restructuring expense to $6.7 million.

Fiscal 2026 net income was $4.9 million, or $0.42 per diluted share, compared with $3.1 million, or $0.24 per diluted share in fiscal 2025. Fourth quarter net income was $7.1 million, or $0.62 per diluted share, compared with $4.4 million, or $0.34 per diluted share a year ago. Turning now to cash generation. Cash flow from operating activities was $21.6 million in fiscal 2026, compared with $29 million last year. The decline reflected an approximately $8 million swing in working capital, as accounts receivable were essentially unchanged this year against a large receivables decrease in fiscal 2025, as we collected prior year balances. Free cash flow was $9.2 million versus $12.1 million in fiscal 2025. Reduced capital spending on our new headquarters partly offset the working capital impact.

We expect increased free cash flow conversion in fiscal 2027 as operating performance continues to improve. Turning now to the divisions. Enterprise generated approximately 70% of fiscal 2026 revenue, while education contributed approximately 29%. Enterprise division reported revenue was $182.7 million for fiscal 2026, compared with $188.1 million a year ago. At the same time, total Enterprise invoiced amounts grew 3% to $190.6 million, and subscription and contractually committed services invoiced amounts grew 18% to $117.7 million. The Enterprise division's overall deferred revenue balance increased 14% to $64.9 million. Fourth quarter Enterprise revenue was $45.5 million, essentially unchanged year-over-year. Full year Enterprise adjusted EBITDA rose 3% to $33.4 million, and margin improved 100 basis points to 18.3%, supported by lower SG&A. Fourth quarter Enterprise adjusted EBITDA was $8.9 million compared with $9.1 million a year ago.

As shown on slide 10, in North America, the contrast between this year's reported revenue and this year's commercial activity is most pronounced. Fiscal 2026 invoiced amounts increased 4% to $151.4 million, driven primarily by growth in contractually committed services, as more clients committed upfront to the solutions that will help them achieve their important outcomes. In the fourth quarter, approximately $6.4 million in invoiced amounts was for contractually committed predefined services, bringing the full year total to approximately $22.1 million. While we continue to recognize the revenue upon delivery, because these services have been contractually committed upfront, any unused days are guaranteed and will be recognized at the end of the contract term, if not delivered during the term. Excluding federal government business, which was affected by DOGE-related actions in fiscal 2025, North America invoiced amounts grew approximately 6%.

North America reported revenue was $142.6 million, or 78% of Enterprise Division revenue, 3% lower year-over-year. Fourth quarter revenue was $35.8 million, essentially flat with the prior year. The full year decline primarily reflects lower subscription invoicing in fiscal 2025 that flowed through to this year's revenue, as well as services contracted and invoiced in fiscal 2026 that will not be delivered until fiscal 2027. That timing also explains why the growth in deferred revenue was so meaningful. North America's deferred revenue balance rose 17% to $59.2 million at year end, adding to our visibility as we enter fiscal 2027. The underlying client metrics are encouraging as well. Revenue retention increased, and the average size of retained All Access Pass client relationships increased meaningfully.

Multi-year agreements continue to represent 60% of contracted amounts, and clients are expanding both the scope and the duration of their relationships with us. Behind those leading indicators and metrics is a more productive sales force. We are winning new client relationships at a higher average initial commitment than we were two years ago, and we are expanding the relationships we retain. That is the operating reason why we expect this year's invoice and deferred revenue growth to convert into reported revenue and operating leverage in fiscal 2027. North America adjusted EBITDA was $25.5 million for fiscal 2026, compared with $27.4 million last year, and $6.6 million in the fourth quarter, compared with $7.6 million a year earlier. The decrease reflected the lower reported revenue, partially offset by approximately $5 million in lower SG&A.

As shown on slide 11, Enterprise International revenue, including both international licensees and direct offices, was $40.1 million for fiscal 2026, compared with $40.5 million last year. Fourth quarter revenue was $9.7 million versus $9.8 million a year ago. China's operations continue to be adversely impacted by trade tensions and macroeconomic conditions. Excluding China, international segment revenue grew approximately 2% for the year, supported by strong growth in Europe and Australia. International adjusted EBITDA for fiscal 2026 increased to $7.9 million from $5.1 million in fiscal 2025, aided by approximately $3.3 million in SG&A savings. Fourth quarter adjusted EBITDA increased to $2.3 million from $1.5 million. That improvement reflects the expense discipline we've applied across the business.

On Monday, we issued a press release announcing that we have signed an agreement to transition our China business operations from a direct office to a locally owned licensee arrangement. Currently, we expect to close that transaction by the end of the second quarter of fiscal 2027. We believe local ownership will provide greater flexibility to serve the Chinese market and allow us to direct more of our own investment towards markets with stronger growth prospects. Following the transition, our China revenue will be recognized as licensee royalties rather than as direct office revenue. We therefore expect reported fiscal 2027 revenue to be approximately $2 million or lower than it otherwise would have been, without a material effect on adjusted EBITDA. We expect the transition to improve the growth profile of our international segment.

Turning to the Education Division now, as shown in slide 12, fiscal 2026 Education revenue increased 2% to $76.2 million, supported by 10% growth in subscription revenue to $50.6 million, and the delivery of approximately 900 more coaching and consulting days than in the prior year. Those gains were partially offset by lower material sales, primarily tied to reductions in budgets for the statewide initiative Paul had mentioned. Fourth quarter revenue was $23.6 million versus $24.4 million last year, primarily reflecting those lower material sales. Education invoiced amounts declined 10% to $72.8 million for the year and 5% to $42.6 million in the fourth quarter.

Three factors contributed to this decline: the statewide budget delays that impacted the timing of our contracting, large multi-year prepayments last year that did not recur at the same level, and an approximately $3 million district renewal that shifted from our fourth quarter into fiscal 2027. Education's deferred revenue balance was $51.2 million at year-end, 6% lower than last year, reflecting both the lower invoicing and the delivery of coaching days during the year, which drew down deferred balance. Full-year Education adjusted EBITDA was $8 million compared with $8.2 million last year. In the fourth quarter, its adjusted EBITDA grew 11% to $6.9 million from $6.2 million, with margin expanding to 29.1% from 25.3%, reflecting stronger membership growth margins and lower SG&A. Our installed base of schools remains an important strategic asset.

School retention improved to its highest level since 2022, and Leader in Me now serves more than 4,500 schools in North America and 8,000 schools worldwide. We believe stronger execution on school retention and on new school and district relationships will reignite more consistent growth. Let me now move to our balance sheet and capital allocation. Our approach remains balanced across three priorities. First, preserving financial flexibility. Second, investing for growth. Third, returning capital to shareholders where appropriate. On the second, we will continue to invest in product innovation, including AI-enabled solutions in our business transformation initiatives and in opportunistic acquisitions when they become available. We ended fiscal 2026 with more than $75 million of total liquidity, comprising $13.3 million of cash and a fully available $62.5 million credit facility. That liquidity provides flexibility to continue executing our plan.

At the same time, capital discipline remains important. We returned $28.1 million to shareholders through the repurchase of approximately 1.6 million shares in fiscal 2026, ending the year with approximately 11.3 million shares outstanding. We had approximately $20 million remaining under our repurchase authorization at fiscal year-end. Our near-term priority is to rebuild cash through internal generation while continuing to evaluate opportunistic repurchases as conditions warrant. Slide 13 summarizes our fiscal 2027 guidance. The outlook reflects the impact of stronger invoiced amounts and deferred revenue, the cost actions we have taken, and a disciplined assessment of execution and external risk that influence the low end of the guidance range.

We expect fiscal 2027 revenue in the range of $263 million-$273 million in constant currency, after including the approximately $2 million reduction in revenue from converting China to a licensee model, which is currently expected to close by the end of the second quarter. Normalizing for the China transition in our revenue presentation, the range implies approximately 1.5%-5% growth over fiscal 2026, or about 3% at the midpoint. We expect growth across all of our segments on a comparable basis. We expect fiscal 2027 adjusted EBITDA in the range of $29 million-$34 million in constant currency. At the midpoint, that implies approximately 9% growth and about 80 basis points of margin expansion, reflecting our expectation that adjusted EBITDA will grow faster than revenue as sales force productivity and cost discipline translate into operating leverage.

As in prior years, results should be weighted towards the second half of the fiscal year. We expect 45%-50% of annual revenue in the first half, roughly evenly split between the first two quarters, and 30%-35% of annual adjusted EBITDA in the first half of fiscal 2027. Margins should benefit as client delivery savings and operating leverage build later in the year. As we think about the cadence for fiscal 2027, I'd like to note that we expect first quarter North America invoiced amounts to be lower than the prior year. As we discussed on our first quarter call, Q1 of fiscal 2026 included $5.6 million of contractually committed services invoiced upfront, primarily tied to a three-year contract with a leading global agricultural company.

Our partnership with that client continues with those services being delivered over the contract term, but the upfront invoicing creates a difficult first quarter comparison. This is reflected in our outlook, and we expect North America invoiced amounts to grow for the full year. With our initial transformation investments behind us and our phase two growth investments funded within our operating budget, we expect adjusted EBITDA growth with improved margin and improved free cash flow conversion in fiscal 2027 and beyond. While we are not providing specific multi-year guidance at this time, we view fiscal 2027 as a year of growth as the momentum built in fiscal 2026 converts, and fiscal 2028 as a year of continued growth and increasing operating leverage. I want to thank the Franklin Covey team for the outstanding results they help our clients achieve every day. Paul, I'll now turn it back to you.

Paul Walker
CEO, Franklin Covey

Thanks, Jessie. Great job taking us through all that. We will now ask the operator to open the line to your questions.

Operator

Thank you. At this time, we will conduct the question-and-answer session. As a reminder, to ask a question, you will need to press star one one on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star one one again. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. Our first question comes from the line of Alex Paris of Barrington Research. Your line is now open.

Alex Paris
President and Senior Managing Director, Barrington Research

Hi, all guys. Thanks for taking my. Hey, how you doing? Thanks for taking my question tonight. Couple of cats and dogs to start with. China, number one, what was revenue and adjusted EBITDA for the full year in fiscal 2026?

Jessie Betjemann
CFO, Franklin Covey

In fiscal 2026, it was about 2% of our revenue, total revenue. Because of the transition that we are doing, we are expecting it by the end of Q2. That is why we were adjusting about half a year. We adjusted the second half of the year of fiscal year 2026 in the guidance that we provided. So, it was about a $2 million adjustment to the revenue and neutral on EBITDA.

Alex Paris
President and Senior Managing Director, Barrington Research

And then.

Jessie Betjemann
CFO, Franklin Covey

Because the thing

Alex Paris
President and Senior Managing Director, Barrington Research

Okay.

Jessie Betjemann
CFO, Franklin Covey

To account is not just the China revenue that comes out, but there is also the impact with regards to the licensee royalties too.

Alex Paris
President and Senior Managing Director, Barrington Research

So, in 2026, did China produce positive adjusted EBITDA, or was it an adjusted EBITDA loss in 2026?

Jessie Betjemann
CFO, Franklin Covey

It was positive adjusted EBITDA. That's why the $2 million takes into. So, normally, what we were neutralizing was the revenue impact as well as the EBITDA that's coming from that too, because when we convert it to a license, you would receive that EBITDA as a royalty. 15% of that will come back as a royalty. That's why we're saying.

Alex Paris
President and Senior Managing Director, Barrington Research

Got you.

Jessie Betjemann
CFO, Franklin Covey

It's EBITDA neutral.

Alex Paris
President and Senior Managing Director, Barrington Research

Got you. That was my next question. Royalty is 15%. That is what I thought. Just remind me, where do royalties come into the P&L at revenue? At the revenue line?

Jessie Betjemann
CFO, Franklin Covey

It comes in. Yes, it comes in at revenue and it flows through to adjusted EBITDA.

Alex Paris
President and Senior Managing Director, Barrington Research

Okay, thank you. Regarding the full year guidance, just to make sure I got the sequence or the cadence of it, you said 45%-50% of the full year revenue will be in the first half, 30%-35% of adjusted EBITDA will be in the first half, right?

Jessie Betjemann
CFO, Franklin Covey

That is right.

Alex Paris
President and Senior Managing Director, Barrington Research

Okay. Then

Jessie Betjemann
CFO, Franklin Covey

Similar to historical.

Alex Paris
President and Senior Managing Director, Barrington Research

Revenue in Q. Sorry.

Jessie Betjemann
CFO, Franklin Covey

Similar to historical, that was the similar guidance that we provided this year and that we had this year in actual. Relative to the first half, we said expect the revenue to be roughly split equally between the two quarters. The adjusted EBITDA will start to It'll slightly increase, so second quarter will be a little bit higher. It'll increase throughout the year because of the impact of some of the restructuring that's happened and as it compounds as you go through the year.

Alex Paris
President and Senior Managing Director, Barrington Research

Okay, that is great. Then, I think you touched on this really quickly, but that is a big difference in full year revenue guidance. It could be up 1% in constant currency, it could be up 5%. You mentioned something about risks on the low end. What would get you to the high end? What would put you at the low end of that guidance in terms of underlying assumptions?

Jessie Betjemann
CFO, Franklin Covey

Yeah. So, in the low end, when we looked at what happened this year, for example, there were a couple of timing things that happened. So, the timing of delivery and schedule days, especially with regards to Q4 and what happens in Q4 with education, that is one.

We are assuming some of the things that happened this year are pushed to this year. But in the event some of those large state deals, for example, if something were to happen, we are trying to be able to understand what happened to us this year, right? We do not want to be in a situation that happened to us this year, and we want to be able to think about what those risks can be on the low end. On the high end, it is continuing the progression that we are seeing, right?

Especially in North America, the invoiced amounts, if that continues to grow at the levels that we are expecting all through the year, and especially if things happen maybe a little bit earlier in the year, first half and second half, sorry, first half, that can translate then into net revenue because you get a higher amount of that conversion in-year. That can lead towards a higher amount in the high end.

Alex Paris
President and Senior Managing Director, Barrington Research

Great. That's helpful. I appreciate that color. One more cat and dog. You're going to add to the hunting team by about 20% this year. On what base is that? I think the last time I asked the question, you had somewhere in the neighborhood of 44 hunters.

Paul Walker
CEO, Franklin Covey

Yeah, that's right. That number fluctuates a little bit. It came down just slightly in the year, just as you recall. So, the base is close to that, Alex, and we'll add about 20% onto that number this year is the short answer there. You'll recall that was a new team we started up as part of our transition, and we hired most of those people from the outside, and we've been really pleased with the way that they've ramped. You can see that in some of the percentage increases we shared on the call. So, we'll grow 20% this year on roughly the same size base.

Alex Paris
President and Senior Managing Director, Barrington Research

Got you. Then no planned addition to the farming group, which is around 65 personnel?

Paul Walker
CEO, Franklin Covey

That's right. We don't need to on that side. As you may recall, on a previous call, we talked about when we went through the transition, farming is where we had some of our best instincts and some really good talent there, and we intentionally didn't cut as deep there in some of the transitions so that we could prepare for the new logos that would come over. So, we built ahead. We had capacity ahead of what we needed, and we'll continue to grow into that.

Alex Paris
President and Senior Managing Director, Barrington Research

And then you refer to business developers. Is that what we used to call implementation strategists, or is that a different group of people?

Paul Walker
CEO, Franklin Covey

Great question. Slightly different group of people. We still have implementation strategists. Business developers are, as the name would imply, in some organizations, they will call them SDRs, sales development representatives, but it is the team of people who are qualifying leads, setting appointments for salespeople. They do a lot of outbound cold prospecting. They are filling our marketing events. This is a growing team meant to improve the time on task for our hunters to be in more selling and closing situations, not only in prospecting situations.

Alex Paris
President and Senior Managing Director, Barrington Research

Got you. Then, lastly, do you plan to add to or how many business development or SDRs do you have? Roughly.

Paul Walker
CEO, Franklin Covey

About 20 going to 28, somewhere in that neighborhood. Holly Procter is on there. She can check me if that is not right, but I think that is about right.

Holly Procter
President, Franklin Covey

That is accurate.

Alex Paris
President and Senior Managing Director, Barrington Research

Excellent. Thank you. I guess the last question, I will let somebody else have a chance. Long-term targets. You have teased about giving those out again. Do you have any plans to update long-term targets?

Jessie Betjemann
CFO, Franklin Covey

I teased.

Paul Walker
CEO, Franklin Covey

I do not think Jessie teased on that.

Jessie Betjemann
CFO, Franklin Covey

I teased on that one, Alex. I think you are asked. Yes, as I mentioned, we are not providing that right now, but obviously wanted to indicate that the momentum for 2026, especially in North America, we are seeing that translate into 2027 in terms of the revenue there. And we expect 2028 to continue to grow. We do expect that in the longer term, we will be able to get to higher growth rates, and in each year, our revenue should be growing progressively more. And with adjusted EBITDA, we are expecting that we will have that margin improvement and operating leverage continue each year.

Alex Paris
President and Senior Managing Director, Barrington Research

Okay, said another way, you have given us revenue growth targets for fiscal 2027. You are saying in 2028, revenues will continue to grow, but at an increasing rate. So, maybe some acceleration in revenue growth and continued adjusted EBITDA margin expansion.

Jessie Betjemann
CFO, Franklin Covey

Yes.

Alex Paris
President and Senior Managing Director, Barrington Research

Great. All right. Thank you very much. I will get back in the queue.

Paul Walker
CEO, Franklin Covey

Thanks, Alex.

Operator

Thank you. One moment for our next question.

Paul Walker
CEO, Franklin Covey

There you go.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Nehal Chokshi of Northland Capital Markets. Your line is now open.

Paul Walker
CEO, Franklin Covey

Hi, Nehal.

Nehal Chokshi
Analyst, Northland Capital Markets

Oh, thank you.

Jessie Betjemann
CFO, Franklin Covey

Hi, Nehal.

Nehal Chokshi
Analyst, Northland Capital Markets

Hello. Great to see the evidence that the hunter transition is working with the double in productivity, so that's awesome. Help frame though, however, that the North America invoice was flat year-over-year for the August quarter. Why was that?

Jessie Betjemann
CFO, Franklin Covey

Yeah, so a couple of things. One, I want to highlight, we were focused on the full year in terms of the invoiced amounts growing. If you recall in Q1, we had a very large contract that was committed upfront. It was part of the contractually committed services where we disclosed $5.6 million. A large portion of that $5.6 million was that one contract. That, by the way, that is going to be comparable from Q1 of fiscal year 2026 going into Q1 of fiscal year 2027. I do want people to make sure that you keep that in mind, because we are expecting North America invoiced amounts will decline, because of the positive impact that we had in Q1 of 2026. Anyway, so because of that, we had the growth in Q1, the very high growth in Q1, that's the same in Q2.

We were not necessarily expecting to have the same levels of high growth every single quarter. We were trying to target, what are we going to expect for the full year? That is one thing to kind of keep in mind. The core business actually did increase about 1%. There are some allocations of royalties that get put in there that kind of made it more neutral and flat. I think that what you really want to central focus on is the deferred revenue. What we built in deferred revenue for North America was 17%. If you look at that number, we have not had growth at that level. The last time in 2022 was around 10%. We have not had very high double-digit growth rates of deferred revenue for North America in many years.

We are really excited about the momentum that we are seeing, and expect that to continue and to grow in this year. Keep in mind, Q1 will be down, but we expect then after Q1 to have growth.

Paul Walker
CEO, Franklin Covey

Just a point on Q1 as well. At the high level, it will be down. If you isolate that one contract and you look though at all the underlying metrics of the productivity per hunter, everybody else is growing, will generate, apart from that one large deal, we would have had, again, good invoice growth in Q1. Those same metrics that we just reported out on the productivity per hunter and revenue per client, those are all intact as we move into Q1, apart from just the seasonality timing of this one big deal.

Nehal Chokshi
Analyst, Northland Capital Markets

Okay, got it. You also said that you do expect North America invoice amounts to grow for full year fiscal year 2027. Just want to verify, does that include subscription invoice growing also for fiscal year 2027?

Jessie Betjemann
CFO, Franklin Covey

Yes.

Paul Walker
CEO, Franklin Covey

Yep.

Nehal Chokshi
Analyst, Northland Capital Markets

Okay, great. In order for fiscal year 2028 revenue to accelerate, that would imply that you would expect invoice amounts overall to do better than the 4% for the full year. Is that correct as well?

Paul Walker
CEO, Franklin Covey

Yes.

Jessie Betjemann
CFO, Franklin Covey

Yes.

Paul Walker
CEO, Franklin Covey

Yes, both for North America and for the broader company to have accelerated reported growth in 2028 as well.

Jessie Betjemann
CFO, Franklin Covey

Right.

Paul Walker
CEO, Franklin Covey

Areas like education would also return to invoice growth this year and set up the reported growth in 2028.

Nehal Chokshi
Analyst, Northland Capital Markets

Got it. Okay. Jessie, you said that you expect fiscal year 2027 free cash flow performance, but the last item that you had said cut off. Could you just repeat what you were saying about fiscal year 2027 free cash flow performance?

Jessie Betjemann
CFO, Franklin Covey

Yeah, we're expecting the free cash flow conversion to improve compared to this year. That's going to be driven by operating cash flows. Our CapEx and CapD investments are going to be, in total, roughly similar to this year. So, maybe a slight increase, but in terms of overall free cash flow conversion, we expect that to improve.

Nehal Chokshi
Analyst, Northland Capital Markets

Okay, great. Paul, last thing from me is in your prepared remarks, I think you mentioned that retention was lower than desired. Did I hear that correct? If so, why is that?

Paul Walker
CEO, Franklin Covey

The point there, revenue retention improved meaningfully in 2026 over where it was in 2025. The point in the remarks there was simply, as we saw revenue per hunter grow meaningfully and revenue per farmer and revenue per customer, new logo and revenue per existing client also grow meaningfully in 2026 over what we'd experienced in our previous selling model, there was a slight offset in the logo retention. You'll recall that that logo retention has been relatively consistent. It is still relatively consistent. It was a couple of percentage points below where it had been in the previous year, and that was what I was calling out there. We don't see any trend. We actually expect that that will improve this coming year in fiscal 2027. Just a couple of deals that didn't renew this year that would have renewed in previous years.

Nehal Chokshi
Analyst, Northland Capital Markets

Got it. That's great. All right. Thank you.

Paul Walker
CEO, Franklin Covey

Thanks, Nehal.

Jessie Betjemann
CFO, Franklin Covey

Thanks, Nehal.

Operator

Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from the line of Dave Storms of Stonegate. Your line is now open.

Paul Walker
CEO, Franklin Covey

Hey, Dave.

Dave Storms
Director of Equity Research, Stonegate

Evening and hey, Paul. Evening, Paul and Jessie. Thanks for taking my questions. Paul, maybe just wanted to stick with that logo retention. It sounded like also in your prepared remarks that you had some initiatives in place maybe to get that back to where you wanted it. Is there any comments you have on what those might look like.

Paul Walker
CEO, Franklin Covey

Yeah.

Dave Storms
Director of Equity Research, Stonegate

And how that might manifest?

Paul Walker
CEO, Franklin Covey

Yeah, absolutely. In fact, Holly, do you want to take that as you and the team are focused on customer and revenue retention?

Holly Procter
President, Franklin Covey

Yeah, happy to. Hi, Dave. Thanks for the question. There's a couple things we're doing to focus on both revenue retention and logo retention. I'll start with the sales structure side. As Paul referenced, we talked quite a bit about our investment in sales hiring, but there's a bunch of support roles that also help engage our customers. For example, we have a customer success team and many others that are attached to the customer life cycle to ensure that we have the highest possible renewal rates and they're set up for success in those engagements. So we've tightened those ratios as a key way to invest in that relationship and ensure that they get the impact that they're realizing. The second is on the solution side, which is, what are the things that a customer might migrate to, other new solutions that they're interested in?

One of the trends that we're seeing that we'll double down on this year is you're seeing a lot of customers naturally that have large AI adoption programs, and they're looking to partner with us in their AI adoption and rollouts. We're seeing customers who might have been traditional leadership development clients transition and maintain their leadership development work, but also move into AI adoption-related efforts. We're hoping to see an increase in retention based on that large trend.

Paul Walker
CEO, Franklin Covey

Thank you, Holly. Dave, maybe just since this came up with both you and Nehal, just one other point. We enjoy relatively consistent and steady client retention rates. It's not uncommon that on occasion, a client will have had a very successful engagement with us. The NPS will be very high, the results will have been exactly what they hoped to achieve, if not greater, and the next initiative isn't fully lined up yet to start. We have a category of clients that we call win back that are just in that exact situation where they're not really gone, there's a lapse there or a lull, and sometimes that can go for a quarter or two, and then we win that client back.

That's certainly always on the forefront of our mind as well, and I suspect a number. There weren't that many in this category, but I suspect we'll win our share back too.

Dave Storms
Director of Equity Research, Stonegate

Understood. That's great, Paul. I appreciate that. On the AI adoption, Holly, that you mentioned there and how clients have those programs, and maybe on the theme of the human edge, mattering, for the clients that you're working with this on, does their budget or you get wrapped up with things like their token spend? I guess what I'm trying to ask there is, are your services competing with other ancillary AI spend that they might have, or do they tend to view this as a separate spend category that if they're bringing AI into the fold, they're also going to be bringing you into the fold because of the value that you bring?

Holly Procter
President, Franklin Covey

Yeah, there's a couple comments to talk through around that, Dave. One is just who the buyer is. The other thing that's been unlocked with this solution is, traditionally, if we're working with, let's say, heads of HR or business unit leaders, it is not typical for us to partner with chief technology officers or CIOs, and that has been a net new buyer that's been introduced and is engaged in many of these deals, because they're both owning not just the purchasing of the technology, but also the successful rollout of that technology. So that's been an incremental net new buyer for us to engage with. And they do, as you said, have a budget dedicated to technology, but a portion of that budget is dedicated to the adoption of the technology.

The reason why it's viewed separately is because it's generally seen as more of a one-time or point-in-time spend, not recurring as they're budgeting for token spend that is recurring in nature and increasing. We've been able to price these engagements in partnership with the CIO and think about what might be a two or three-year adoption plan for their large org that isn't potentially tied to token spend.

Dave Storms
Director of Equity Research, Stonegate

That's great commentary. I appreciate that. Maybe just one more switch into some of the conversation around the new hunters. With this new cohort, just trying to think through how it's taking you a couple quarters to get these new hunters ramped. Should we expect that to truncate? I got to imagine there's a bit of a J-curve when you bring on 20% more headcount. Just any thoughts there?

Holly Procter
President, Franklin Covey

Yeah. A couple comments on ramp time. As you mentioned, this is a critical component of the plan. Beating ramp time really accelerates our growth in the year. There's a couple things we're doing on ramp. The first to call out is, as Paul referenced, the sales development or SDR reps. This is an investment not just in our lead gen, but also in our talent pipeline. That population of business developers is a group that we've seen promoted into hunter roles, and so that certainly accelerates ramp time, and we're looking forward to more and more of that internal promotability. The second is, in previous calls, we've referenced an investment we're making in healthcare. Healthcare is a team that we're building out this year, and we've hired several people that are from industry that have great experience in healthcare.

While they are ramping to Franklin Covey, they are deep experts in the industry that they serve. We also expect that ramp time to accelerate. Lastly, part of our hub resources have been deep sales enablement expertise. So how we train not just on Franklin Covey's content and Franklin Covey solutions, but on our sales methodology. We are making a bunch of investments there this year as well, and look forward to ramping our sellers quicker than we did in prior years.

Dave Storms
Director of Equity Research, Stonegate

Understood. Thank you for taking my questions, and good luck in the next quarter.

Paul Walker
CEO, Franklin Covey

Thanks, Dave.

Jessie Betjemann
CFO, Franklin Covey

Thanks, Dave.

Operator

Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from the line of Jeff Martin of Roth Capital Partners. Your line is now open.

Jeff Martin
Director of Research and Analyst, Roth Capital Partners

Thanks. Good afternoon, everyone. Hey, Paul.

Jessie Betjemann
CFO, Franklin Covey

Jeff.

Jeff Martin
Director of Research and Analyst, Roth Capital Partners

Wanted to pick your brain about the client environment out there. Do you feel that the sales cycles are normal at this point? Are they still elongated? Are you seeing hesitation? Are people still expressing macro uncertainty concerns? Do you think, now that we are post midterm elections, that things could pick up? Just curious kind of your pulse on the general market environment for Franklin Covey services.

Paul Walker
CEO, Franklin Covey

I will give a general comment and then may ask Holly to double-click on it with her specific experience. But I would say, as we think about this over time, the external environment we have seen for the last few quarters now is relatively stable, particularly in North America. Maybe not quite the same to the same degree internationally in some of the regions around the world as there is maybe a little more unevenness out there for various reasons. But in North America, our core markets for both education and Enterprise, which makes up the vast majority of our revenues, it has been pretty consistent now and stable for a while. I do not know exactly what last night's elections will mean. We will see how that plays out in the coming days. But generally, we are not seeing that as headwind.

And I think stability actually is a little bit of a potential tailwind for us. I believe that does not have to be an amazing environment, but a stable environment is actually a good thing. So, Holly, I do not know if you would add anything to that.

Holly Procter
President, Franklin Covey

Yeah. I agree with Paul's comments on stability. I will just add a couple more points. One, I just want to remind you of the large addressable market that we serve. There is almost no industry that we do not partner with today. While there might be peaks in one industry and troughs in another, we have really great diversity across the industries we serve in a really large market. The second, as we referenced the AI solutions earlier, it is obviously a massive wave, and there is not a leader out there right now that is not struggling with how to figure out how to get the most out of their AI investments. While there might be other market conditions that are challenging, that is such a large wave for us, and so we are really invested there and seeing a lot of progress.

Then last is one of the other market trends that has been interesting is to watch the shift of some of our services move from potentially delivered online to delivered in person. The spirit of that is that leaders are really feeling pulled to unite their teams, especially during all this disruption, and bring them together to focus on the vision they are trying to accomplish. So, it has been interesting to watch that shift, and that has been another great opportunity for us to invest and build more meaningful relationships with clients in person.

Jeff Martin
Director of Research and Analyst, Roth Capital Partners

Thank you. I appreciate the reminder on the first quarter difficult comparison. I just was curious if there are other items that are worth pointing out for other quarters in fiscal 2027 that would be challenging or beneficial to the year-over-year comparisons.

Holly Procter
President, Franklin Covey

No. Just Q1.

Jeff Martin
Director of Research and Analyst, Roth Capital Partners

Just Q1. Got it. All right. Thank you very much.

Paul Walker
CEO, Franklin Covey

Thank you, Jeff.

Operator

Thank you. I am showing no further questions at this time. I will now turn it back to Paul for closing remarks.

Paul Walker
CEO, Franklin Covey

Wonderful. Thank you again, everybody, for joining today, and we hope you have a great evening. And thanks so much for your questions.

Operator

Thank you for your participation in today's conference. This concludes the program. You may now disconnect.