Please standby. We're about to begin. Good day, everyone, and welcome to the FTI Consulting First Quarter 2017 Earnings Conference Call. As a reminder, Shay's call is being recorded. And now for opening remarks and introductions, I'll turn the call over to Molly Hawkes Managing Director of Investor Relations at FTI Consulting.
Please go ahead.
Good morning. Welcome to the FTI Consulting conference call to discuss the company's first quarter of 2017 earnings results as reported this morning. Management will begin with formal remarks, after which we'll take your questions. Before we begin, I would like to remind everyone that this conference call may include forward looking statements within the meaning of Section 27A of the Securities Act of 1933 and Section 21 of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 that involve risks and uncertainties. Forward looking statements include statements concerning plans, objectives, goals, strategies, future events, future revenues, future results and performance expectations, plans or intentions relating to financial performance, acquisitions, share business trends and other information or other matters that are not historical, including statements regarding estimates of our future financial results and other matters.
For a discussion of risks and other factors that may cause actual results or events to differ from those contemplated by forward looking statements, Investors should review the Safe Harbor statement in the earnings press release issued this morning. A copy of which is available on and forward looking information in our most recent Form 10K and in our other filings filed with the SEC. Investors are cautioned not to place undue reliance on any forward looking statements, which speak only as of the date of this earnings call and will not be updated. Adjusted EBITDA, total EBITDA or adjusted segment EBITDA margin and free cash flow. For a discussion of these and other non GAAP financial measures, as well as our opening financial tables that we issued this morning, which include these reconciliations.
Lastly, there are two items have been posted to the Investor Relations section of our website this morning for your reference. These include a quarterly earnings presentation and an Excel and PDF of our historical financial and operating data, which have been updated to include our first quarter of 2017 results. Of note, during today's prepared remarks, management will speak directly to will not speak directly to the quarterly earnings presentation posted on our Investor Relations Web site. To ensure our disclosures are consistent, these slides provide the same details as they have historically, and as I have said, are available on the Investor Relations section our website. With these formalities out of the way, I'm joined today by Steve Gumy, our President and Chief Executive Officer and Ajay Sabrawal, our Chief Financial Officer.
At this time, I will turn the call over to our President and Chief Executive Officer, Steve Gunby.
Thank you, Molly, and welcome to all of you who are joining us on the phone. This was a tough quarter. As we noted in our press release, the first quarter results are disappointing. The business did get stronger over the quarter and some of the causes of the disappointment are items that can cut negatively in 1 quarter and then surprise you by reversing themselves in another. Nevertheless, in total, the results in this quarter were sufficiently far enough below our expectations that we have reduced our guidance for the year.
Ajji and I will seek during these remarks to give you a sense of the sources of that weakness as well as how we Overall, we have 2 messages. First is the message I just delivered that Ajay and I, but importantly, not just Ajay and I, the management team as a whole, are obviously not happy with the performance this quarter. But perhaps more important is the second message which is that no one on the management team sees performance as acceptable, and we have substantial confidence that we can and we will get the business back on track going forward. Let me start with a summary description The weakest part of our business this quarter and the bulk of the weakness overall came from Corp Fin in the United States. A business that in fact is one of our mainstays.
It is in fact a great business, a business in which we have a powerful competitive position in the market, but a business that had significant weakness this quarter. That weakness this quarter had 4 main causes. The first is market driven weakness. As most of us know, loose money puts pressure on our restructuring business, and loose money remains a reality. Over the prior few quarters, our business managed to escape that reality based on strong performance in 3 specific industries that were under pressure in late 2015 and the first half of twenty sixteen.
Energy, mining and retail. We have strong competitive positions in those verticals and our strong professionals were able advantage of the surge in demand Perhaps, that's not very surprising in energy And Mining as commodity prices have risen there. Perhaps more surprising in retail, the aggregate size of the market over the last 3, 6 9 months has shrunk compared to the corresponding prior year periods. In the case of the retail situation, we think that is a temporary drop anticipate and believe that we're beginning to see a rebound in retail restructuring demand, but the decline in retail demand over the latter part of 2016 and the beginning of 2017 compared to the year prior was nevertheless a reality. Overall, we anticipated much of this weakening in our forecast, but in fact, not all of it, in particular, not the speed of which it unfolded.
So market driven weakness was one cause. The second cause of the underperformance was conflicts. In a slow market, there just aren't very many large jobs and unfortunately, this quarter for 2 of the largest jobs in the market. The Corp Fin business happened to be conflicted out because of relationships in other businesses. Conflicts are reality our business.
We face it all the time. They're a bad thing in good times. Obviously, they hurt more, even more deeply in slow times. The 3rd cause was that some of the success fees The data we have suggests that this quarter was one of the lowest quarters for success fees in Corp Fin in some time. That's not because this is important, we don't believe we're going to get any success fees.
We continue to believe we are going to get substantial success fees in 2017. But due to a variety of timing issues not a lot came to fruition in the first quarter. So we had a slowing market and on top of that, we had 2 forces, conflicts and timing of success fees that exacerbated the problem just by happening to be particularly bad this quarter. Then, in addition to market forces and some random factors like conflicts and success fees, we also had a couple businesses that simply didn't perform to our expectations. As many of you know, we have a terrific TMT business that has been one of our successful mainstays for a long time.
It's a business with great professionals. And interestingly, it's a versatile business, one that has historically been able to perform well not only in boom restructuring times, but also in slow restructuring times because it's a pretty broad practice. Just happened to have a significantly off quarter. And then similarly, our performance improvement business in North America also significantly underperformed our hope expectations this quarter. We did have some offsets to these disappointments.
Our transaction advisory services and real estate businesses in the strong as was our overall business in Europe. But having said that the positive factors were far from sufficient to offset the drags provided by the market the conflicts, the lower success fees, and the underperformance of the two businesses I mentioned. Ajay will give a little more details on that. Let me turn to We do not anticipate the market forces getting better over the course of this year. Not overall, maybe some subsectors like retail but not overall.
Having said that, the conflicts and success fee issues are more random. We don't believe we are now somehow more prone to conflicts. We're more prone to postponements of success fees. So we expect those factors to normalize as the year goes on. In terms of the parts of the businesses that we're underperforming, these are businesses with very good professionals and a lot of pride.
And as you know, we have a new leadership team in Corp Fin a very strong leadership team, a committed 1 and 1 that is aggressive about growing and improving the business. That leadership team is focused on making significant improvements, both in the businesses that underperformed this quarter, supporting them, figuring out how to help them go forward, as well as supporting some of the businesses that are performing well. The management team and I anticipate that the net of all this is though this will not be a great year for Corp Fin. We do expect to Given that the main shortfall in the quarter was in Corp Fin, I spent the bulk of my time there, but let me lightly touch on some of the other businesses. Econ Consulting delivered record revenues and strong earnings in the quarter, driven particularly by strength in the Compass Lexicon subsidiary Our tech business, as you know, was a business that engaged in a strategic relook last year with a view that we needed to make 2016 the bottom of this business, and we could make 2016 the bottom for that business with progress showing up already in 2017.
I would say that so far, the results from this year are fully on track with those positive expectations. Stratcom on the other hand underperformed our expectations this quarter But that's important to note that that's after 3 years in a row of terrific performance. It is unfortunate that the shortfall happened to be in a quarter where we had underperformance in other but we continue to believe that this business is a business that's overall moving briskly in a positive direction. Finally, in FLC, we have high hopes of returning FLC to being a core growth engine. In aggregate, we are seeing progress in FLC.
The management team and I had some hope that we could be seeing even more progress by now, but we are making progress and the team and I are focused on enhancing that thesis. So that's an overview of the quarter at a high level. Let me reflect on a few thoughts on where that leaves us. I have Ajji and I have the management team and I have and I believe all of our professionals have extraordinarily high expectations for this company. This quarter was disappointing.
Last year, we had a great first quarter. That great first quarter a year ago didn't herald simple easy times as smooth road forevermore. And similarly, a bad quarter doesn't change the underlying fundamentals of this business, nor its potential. We still have truly outstanding professionals We still have many strong positions around We can take businesses that were doing okay or worse and move them ahead considerably. And as we've discussed, we still have a substantially stronger and in fact, continually getting stronger balance sheet which gives us the flexibility to support shareholder returns through lots of different means.
And important, I would say now, we have, as aligned and committed a group of leaders, as I have seen during my tenure. This was a quarter. The quarter reinforces the fact that we have real work to do. We have to absorb this quarter, learn from it, reinforce what is working, take whatever corrective actions make sense, and leverage the fundamentals that will allow us to improve this business over the course this year and then ultimately continue to deliver on double digit sustained EPS over time. Management, Ajay and I are committed to do just that.
So with that, let me turn this over to Ajay to give you more details in the quarter and then leave plenty of time for your questions. Ajay?
Thanks, Steve. In my prepared remarks, first I will summarize our quarterly results. Then I will review significant segment level quarter over prior quarter and sequential quarter comparisons. After that, I will discuss our balance sheet and our revised guidance. First quarter of 2017, GAAP EPS and adjusted EPS were $0.34 compared to GAAP EPS of $0.73 and adjusted EPS of 17 were $446,300,000, down 5.1% compared to record revenues of $470,300,000 in the prior year quarter.
Excluding the estimated impact of FX, revenues were $454,100,000 or down 3.4% compared to the prior year quarter. 1st quarter net income of $14,000,000 decreased 53.6% compared to $30,200,000 in the prior year quarter. 1st quarter adjusted EBITDA was $38,300,000 or 8.6 percent of revenues compared to $68,900,000 or 14.6 percent of revenues in the prior year quarter. As Steve said, we're disappointed in our first quarter results. Our disappointment was primarily driven by our This business was up against tough comparisons compared to the first quarter of 2016 and was affected by the lower demand for restructuring services.
To a lesser extent, looking at our businesses in aggregate, the decline in adjusted EBITDA was also a result of higher to an increase in bad Sequentially, compared to Q4 of 2016, our results were better. Revenue increased 1%, net income increased 97.4% and adjusted EBITDA increased 26.3%. As our forensic and litigation consulting or FLC and technology segments both reported mid single digit increases in revenues and double digit increases Now I will provide more insight at the segment level. In corporate finance and restructuring, year over year revenue and adjusted segment EBITDA declined 16.7% and 67.3%, respectively. This decline was even steeper than we anticipated due to lower demand for restructuring services in North America This was largely due to a weakening restructuring market.
According to Det Wire, large Chapter 11 filings fell nearly 20% compared were down 35% compared to the prior year period. In fact, in the retail sector where there has been an uptick in activity the average size of filings by liabilities according to the deal $1,000,000 in the first quarter of last year. And overall filings are down. Looking at energy restructurings, Another area of strength in the prior year quarter, the number of filings is down versus the first quarter of last year. In Metals And Mining, where we also benefited from heightened activity in the prior year quarter, we were impacted by lower demand for Last year in first quarter, there were 8 S and P rated debt defaults.
This quarter, there were 0 Also, we had very successful completions of client projects. In one case, we were pleased to see our client reemerge from Banker and be relisted on the New York Stock Exchange earlier this month. As Steve said, the majority of the year over year shortfall in corporate finance and restructuring was driven by the market forces I just highlighted, which were accentuated with some unfortunate conflicts for us, lower success fees in the quarter and a couple of our performance improvement our business transformation businesses underperforming our expectations. But I do want to make clear that we continue to the deals most current U. S.
Bankruptcy league tables by total number of new engagements. And earlier this month, we were named turnaround firm of the year for the 3rd year in a row by the global M and A network. As we have been investing in our business transformation businesses, we had expectations that they would help offset some of the declines in our restructuring business in slower markets. Unfortunately, while they were not down as much as our restructuring business in the quarter, they were not up in aggregate. Non distressed revenues made up about 45% of corporate finance revenues in the quarter compared to about 40% of such revenues in the same quarter last year.
Our non distressed businesses include offerings like transaction advisory services, merger integration services, performance improvement, and Office of the CFO. Turning to FLC, revenues decreased 6.4% and adjusted segment EBITDA declined 31.7% compared to the prior year quarter. Our FLC business offers many services, including investigations, dispute advisory, data and analytics, health solutions and construction solutions offerings among others with investigations and disputes being our largest. The year over year revenue and adjusted segment EBITDA declines were largely due to lower demand and realized pricing for our health solution services and a decline in demand for our global investigation service offerings. This decline was partially offset by which we continue specific business, where we announced earlier this which we announced earlier this quarter, as we look to further strengthen our already strong expert witness and dispute resolution offerings in the region.
We also saw increased demand for our data and analytic services in North America, largely driven by mortgage backed security related projects. As you may recall, we have discussed on previous calls that FLC has been and continues to be an important focus for us, and we have a lot of efforts committed to returning this business to being a growth engine. In that connection, I think it is important to note that sequentially, FLC has rebounded from a weak 4th quarter with broad based top and bottom line improvements across most of our product lines. Sequentially, FLC revenues increased 5.6 percent and adjusted segment EBITDA more than doubled from $6,300,000 to $13,500,000. Higher utilization and A region we stated we performed below our expectations in the fourth quarter was the biggest factor in the sequential improvement.
EMEA also delivered sequential improvements, driven by improved utilization for our investigations and disputes offerings. So while this business is not where we expect it to be longer term, in terms of utilized and EBITDA, we are moving in the right direction. Reporting record revenues of $139,200,000, increasing 6.5% year over year and 7.7% sequentially. Year over year revenue growth in this business was primarily due to increased demand for antitrust services in our Compass Lexicon subsidiary. The small decline in adjusted segment EBITDA was primarily due to lower utilization with higher headcount in international arbitration and other litigation services in EMEA and an increase in bad debt expense.
In technology, revenues declined 4.5% or 3.4% excluding the estimated negative impact of FX. Compared to the prior year quarter. Adjusted segment EBITDA was consistent with the prior year quarter as the decrease in revenues was more than offset by lower compensation resulting Sequentially, the improvement in our technology business was meaningful. Revenues increased 6% and adjusted EBITDA increased 40% compared to the 4th quarter. The sequential improvements can be attributed to our refreshed software and services strategies and cost actions, which are beginning to gain traction.
Overall, we believe we are on the right trajectory in technology. Strategic communications revenues decreased 3.1% compared to the prior year quarter. Excluding the estimated negative impact of FX, revenues increased 1.2%. Excluding FX, the increase in revenues was primarily due to higher particularly in our Public Affairs business. Adjusted segment EBITDA declined one $900,000 year over year.
The decrease in adjusted segment EBITDA was due to higher compensation related to increase in billable professionals, a decline in the higher margin project based revenues in North America and the estimated negative impact of FX. I will now discuss We consumed cash as we made our annual bonus payments for the prior year. Net cash used by operating activities was $93 in the prior year quarter. The year over year difference in operating cash flows is due to a decline in cash collected from lower revenues compared to our record revenues for 2016 performance. During the quarter, the company spent $36,900,000 to repurchase 879,585 shares of its common stock at an average price of $41.95.
As of March 31, 2017, approximately $44,500,000 remained available under our $100,000,000 share repurchase authorization, which as discussed in February we intend to complete in 2017. Now this will be dependent on fluctuations in the price per share of the company's common stock, market conditions and other future events that may be beyond our control. Cash and cash equivalents were $121,000,000 at March 31, 2017 compared to $114,500,000 at March 31, 2016. An important final point to make, notwithstanding the use of cash, for share repurchases and bonuses in the quarter, total debt, net of cash, was $286,000,000 at the end of the quarter. Which is down 31, 2016.
This is a reflection of the strength of our balance sheet and the powerful cash flow characteristics of the company. Turning to our guidance, given the weaker than anticipated performance in the first quarter we are revising our 2017 guidance downwards. We now expect revenues will range between $1,775,000,000 $1,875,000,000. This compares to our previous guidance range of between $1,800,000,001,900,000,000. We now estimate that EPS will range between $1.75 $2.10.
This compares to the previous EPS range of between $1.95 $2.30. We now estimate that adjusted EPS will range between $1.90 $2.20. This compares to the previous EPS adjusted EPS range between $2.10 $2.40. As a reminder, and as we mentioned on our year end call, the variance between GAAP and adjusted EPS guidance for 2017 is related to estimated lease cancellation charges for a Washington DC office move, which will result in an estimated charge of between $0.10 $0.15 in the second quarter of 2017. In closing, while we recognize that we had a disappointing quarter We are optimistic in certain segments like to improving performance, With our strong balance sheet, we can enhance shareholder returns through a variety For example, we followed through on our commitment to buy back shares and have adequate ability to continue to do so and our leading businesses and practitioners are well positioned to win in the market and where we have the right to win we will not shy away from adding talented practitioners and adjacent businesses when we find opportunities to do so With that,
We'll go first to Tobey Sommer with SunTrust.
I wanted to start out by asking, you've been at the helm now looking at the collection of businesses and how it performs together in a relatively slow economic growth environment. What are the in aggregate with the collection of businesses? What's the best backdrop in terms of economies to in order for you to grow not only the top line, but increase EBITDA? Thank you.
Yes. Thanks, Toby. Should I take that, Ajay? Yes. Look, let me answer that in two ways.
In our current situation and then where I think we're moving. Let me start with where I think we're moving. I think I believe our business has enormous potential to actually grow, even without the benefit from the economy. And I think where we have made the right investments aggressively and those investments. You can't just invest, Jeff, to invest in the right places.
We are showing that. The change in trajectory of Stratcom wasn't because the economy got better. It was because we started to invest behind the better propositions and stopped investing behind some of the propositions where we didn't have a right to win. And in Europe, I mean, you can't say the European economy has been doing better than the U. S.
Economy, and that's that's going forward. I think so that is the aspiration, but that requires some hardnosed look at each of the positions and hardnosed investments. And we've been moving through the business to get there. And I think we we are getting there, but we're not fully there. And you see that this quarter.
I think in the absence of that, this business is so effect by the restructuring market, right? I mean, it's just it is such a powerful competitive position that when there are deals out there, we tend to win. And it's a business with great professionals. We have a pretty high fixed cost structure because of our comp structure. And therefore, when we win, a lot of it goes to the bottom line when we don't have a lot of them hits the bottom line.
So over the history of this company, the best market is when there's a lot of, restructuring. It's clearly you can tie that. The second best thing is a lot of M and A and sometimes those are inconsistent. But I would say that's history. What I am trying to do and what I think we now have a management team committed to do is to never belive some reality to that, but make sure we're doing enough to offset that.
And, we just haven't yet got there some places in the U. S. Let me say one more thing on that. For example, performance improvement is not dependent on And you were just behind on where I would hope we would be in performance improvement. And the people who are doing really good performance improvement work the downturn in restructuring doesn't affect it.
But given where we are, it affects us a lot. Did I get that part of your question, Tobey?
You did. I just had one follow-up if I could. What does your guidance imply for the trajectory of EBITDA this year. Will that be kind of down a comparable amount to EPS or how we think about? Because I know you've got some repurchase in the guidance.
Thank you.
The answer is, we haven't given specific EBITDA guidance, but this change relates to EBITDA and not, a repurchase, repurchase is we're already factored into our earlier guidance. So it is corresponding reduction.
Okay.
Thank you. Thanks Toby. We'll go next to Kevin McVeigh with
Deutsche Bank.
Good morning, Kevin. Good morning.
Hey, thanks for taking my question. Just wanted to follow-up on the restructuring a little bit in terms of trying to just get a better understanding of the timing from when you folks would get engaged relative to actual distress. So kind of looking at the retail space, I'd imagine you folks start to come in before there's actually filing. So has the process started where you're coming into maybe try to optimize cost structures and things like that in an effort to try to stave off a bankruptcy and without getting too specific with clients, how does that typically come about in terms of lead time and when you start to see that firm up in the revenue?
Yes, it's a good question, Kevin. Look, it varies by what role we play in the restructuring. And I'm not the expert on the exact timing, but what I think is the case is when we take creditor side positions, those tend to be later. Those tend to be actually after, often after somebody has filed, although occasionally, we'll start to get involved ahead time. On company's side positions, sometimes it's late, but often you're right.
We're getting involved earlier to try to help somebody stave off bankruptcy. And so there's some some lead time and certainly the conversations start quite a bit ahead of time. And so it's just a mixture depending on the role we play. Does that begin to address your question?
It does. And then just my other question on that was it looks like the FTEs on the restructuring side ticked up a little bit. Utilization down. Is there any way to think about or rather up sequentially, but still kind of sub-sixty? Is there any way to think about utilization targets in that business in the back half
closed publicly, but I would say that nobody in the business thinks utilization targets in the 50s is a good target. Can I say that? Look, I think the trick is that what you have to do in a professional services business is always be is be careful. If you have great talent, you can't do something based on a back order, because it's too hard to get good talent. Now you have to do 2 other things in addition.
You have to make sure that you're looking for people who are going to be here long term. And that's something you should be doing, even in good times, because if you have you just have to continually look through and make sure you have the right group of people and you have to do that. And that's an ongoing thing. And then Obviously, if you have bad businesses, you have to confront those and exit them like we did for Brazil and some parts of FLC in Brazil and so forth. In Corp Fin in the U.
S, it's a complicated thing because it's a really good business, where we have a lot of good people. And so there's you got to go always prune the people who aren't doing well, but you also have to then say, if I got really good people, I got to go bust my tail and get them busy because I want these people here for the next boom. And I would say all of those things are being looked at. And you know, Carlin Taylor is co leader of this, I think, has flown three times to Australia to help sell project back there and we have people flying around. And I think there's real opportunity to get people busy, but nobody thinks utilization in the 50s is the right number.
Does that help?
We'll go next to Tim McHugh with William Blair. Yes, thank you. Good morning.
First, I guess, I just want to ask somewhat connect to the last question, but the expense growth as we go through the remainder of the year, I guess, have you already started to take actions or what would be the expectation? Are you is the guidance assuming you grow into the expense base Can you help give us any context for, I guess, how you're approaching it at this point?
Look, I would say this that, in terms of you're talking about overhead expenses, I think the answer is, you either do one of 2 things. You either grow into the expense base or you reduce the expense base. And those have to be conversations that one has after year, a tough quarter. And I'll just maybe leave it at that, Tim.
Mean, I guess, have you had those conversations or Of
course, we had those conversations, right? I mean, and the question is, but both of those are very viable because we have such different parts of our business. I mean, we do have, even in a slow quarter, some businesses that are growing extraordinarily successfully. And you're not going to address cost issues there. And you're not going to address cost issues in business that have temporarily blipped down, but where you have now a rethinking of where what trajectory of the businesses, you have to have cost structures that support them in the right way.
And those conversations, I mean, of course, are going on.
Okay. And then in Stratcom, I know it's it had a good run for a while, but weaker this quarter. Is there I guess what part was weaker? And could you give more color there and how comfortable are you that that's just timing or kind of a blip versus has something changed in the demand environment or your positioning or something?
Yes, look, so let me be clear on that. Don't think you can ever hold any one of our businesses to having no blips down. If you're going to hold any business to that, they're going to fail at some point. And so, and there's a certain number of certain amount of randomness in the business. So could Stratcom or any other business have another down quarter?
Of course, they can. What you can have is a sense of whether you feel like it's on the right trajectory, which actually I think if you have that clear sense, it means over any multi quarter period, it will be And we clearly have that conviction with Stratcom. This was just a little bit off. There's no change. Actually, frankly, our competitive position continues to grow in that business.
We are attracting very talented people from the outside. We have good discipline promotion processes and so forth. So I think this I don't think this company that this business has ever been in a better shape competitively as we have it now. The first quarter just happen to be an off quarter. I can't guarantee, Tim, that any business doesn't have another off quarter in this year, but there's no change in our confidence that this business is positioned in the right way going forward.
Does that answer?
It does. And then lastly, just the comments around, I guess, the going back to the restructuring market, you mentioned you're conflicted out of some of the bigger engagements, but I guess just market share wise, do you feel like you've won absent factors like that? Has your, I guess, your ability to capture the work that's come out, remain consistent with what you would have thought? And it's just the number of opportunities or I guess talk about that dynamic?
Yes, it's certainly mostly the number of opportunities. I mean, as overall, we can't see that we've lost share. I mean, we look pretty hard at different subsectors and say, geez, how many did we win in this quarter? And then it gets really hard because when you look at subsectors, you can be looking at There were 3 jobs for this subsector. And did you win 1 or did you win 2 and those sorts of things?
We feel pretty good about our competitive position in the various verticals that have historically been strong here, mining, energy, and retail. And we don't feel like we're worse competitively, but, we do think the market is down. And we think energy and mining will continue to be down. I think it will be important that we continue to win our good share of the retail things going forward, although, because the retail business there are more filings now. They weren't the biggest filings, but we think the dip in retail that we saw the second half of last year was a temporary dip down and we think that business is going to come back.
So it will be important that we win our share of those going forward. But as of now, we're feeling pretty good about our competitive position. Does that answer your question, Tim?
Yes, thanks.
And with no further questions in the queue at this time, we will that does conclude today's presentation. We thank you for your participation.
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