Good morning, and welcome to the call with FirstSun and HomeStreet to discuss the exciting strategic merger announced earlier this morning. I'll now hand the call over to the company.
Thank you, and good morning, everyone. Earlier this morning, we issued a joint press release to announce the strategic merger of FirstSun and HomeStreet. On the call today, we will discuss the merger announcement, and we will answer questions from analysts. We will not be commenting on either company's fourth quarter earnings, and HomeStreet will release their earnings on their current schedule on Monday, January 29th, after the market closes, and FirstSun will release its earnings on Friday, January 26th. Before we begin our remarks, I'd like to remind you that our detailed joint press release and an investor presentation were filed by each of us with the SEC on Form 8-K this morning and are available on our investor relations website. In addition, a recording and transcript of this call will be available at the same location following our call.
Please note that during our call today, we will make certain predictive statements that reflect our current views, the expectations and uncertainties about the company's performance, and our financial results. These are likely forward-looking statements that remain subject to the safe harbor statements included in yesterday's earnings release, our investor deck, and the risk factors disclosed in our other public filings. Additionally, reconciliations to any non-GAAP measures referred to on our call today can be found in our earnings release and investor deck. I'll now introduce FirstSun's President and CEO, Neal Arnold.
Thank you, Laura. Today on the call, you'll have myself, Rob Cafera, FirstSun's CFO, Mark Mason, the CEO of HomeStreet, and John Michel, the CFO of HomeStreet. So we'll be sharing our thoughts with you. We're excited to announce this strategic merger with HomeStreet. I have said this is the right deal at the right time for a number of reasons. First of all, both our organizations were on the threshold of crossing the $10 billion mark, and this does it in a great way. Also, FirstSun was working to become a more publicly traded company. And again, this opportunity really provides both of us that profile. Thirdly, as we've discussed with Mark and his team, the opportunity here at HomeStreet, I think we can all look back at the stresses our industry's been under in the last year.
But I have to say, when it comes to HomeStreet, what we saw was a great deposit base, where others had seen erosion, given the uncertainty of the past year. We saw a very conservative credit profile, given what's going on in the economy. We saw a very strong fee income profile and a very experienced management team that has stayed throughout the banking uncertainty of this past year. So we were very excited to put together this opportunity. Page six in our deck begins to underscore some of the profiles that are going on. First of all, we become a $17 billion combined organization.
For 2025, we expect to be in the neighborhood of $6 earnings per share, which says that we are trading at 5.5x pro forma price earnings ratio and in excess of 30% earnings accretion. A couple of highlights. We clearly like the opportunity to continue the organization's growth in some of the largest, fastest-growing markets in the country. The two of us have very complementary business lines and lending expertise across the footprint, and I believe that the two combined core deposit franchises are very strong and certainly an important component to the value. On the balance sheet side, we believe that we help each other on our sensitivity, and we'll talk about that later.
And then finally, as I said, the management teams here, we both bring some depth, and so we think we'll have the expertise required as we cross $10 billion together. Page seven gets to the transaction summary. I think as you've all probably seen, it's a 100% common stock deal, an exchange ratio of 0.4345, and the expected entity will be listed on NASDAQ during this time frame. In addition to this transaction, we have raised $175 million in capital commitments led by an investor group of the Wellington Management and others. $80 million of this capital is coming in today on announcement, as well as all the other commitments are fully subscribed.
As a result of this transaction, our combined organizations, FirstSun, will represent about 64% of the ownership group, HomeStreet, about 22%, and the rest being the other investors. The leadership team has been outlined, and we continue to expect to have great continuity of leadership and our boards of directors. We will have 12 directors, nine from FirstSun and three from HomeStreet. Finally, on this page, I'd like to highlight that on FirstSun, for those of you who don't know us, we have a strong amount of insider ownership and about 69% of the ownership group is considered insiders. So we have a strong group that will be in support of this transaction as it relates to future shareholder votes. We expect to close the transaction in mid-2024.
Page eight highlights some of the attractive markets in the western part of the U.S. Certainly, we've enjoyed the economic growth that has been happening in these markets. We've certainly seen it at FirstSun in the Southwest, but we are focused on the opportunities in the growth markets, both in the Pacific Northwest as well as Southern California. Page nine. For those of you who aren't as familiar with our story, a lot of our growth has been driven by a focus on C&I lending, specifically across our footprint and with our specialty lending groups. We believe that this will be greatly supplemented with Mark's team on the multifamily area and allow us to continue to leverage what they have as well. Mark, do you want to make some comments as it relates to your capabilities here?
Sure. Neal and I have already spent a meaningful amount of time together going over what the management structure and leadership of the company will be. Like everything else in this transaction, it's just really complementary.
Yeah.
We have strength in different lending lines of business, ours substantially in real estate lending of all types, from permanent to construction lending. And of course, FirstSun, their C&I expertise is well documented at this point. We feel very, very good about how the company will come together, the complementary nature of the transaction, not just from a product line or management standpoint, but asset liability balance. And we have a set of business regions to operate in that are arguably the best in the United States.
Yeah.
I'm just very excited about it.
Great. Thank you, Mark. Page 10. I realize that one of the opportunities, we looked at the challenges our industry went through. With our board, one of the things we spent time on is what I'd roughly call the opportunity of bond math, given what's happened with interest rates and its impact on our industry. You know, the thing that's hard to wrap your head around is you take a company that's earning at one level, and very quickly, you're able to see a significant change in the earning stream here with limited execution risk. So to me, the opportunity that the last twelve months have given us is the opportunity to be a participant in this bond math exercise. Page 11.
You know, if you look at the graphs on the right-hand side, I guess what I'd summarize this, whether it's revenue or net interest margin or our returns, we won't just be a peer performer, we'll be a top-tier performer very quickly with this transaction. And I think the compelling piece of it is, the entry point for investors is you're talking about very reasonable valuations out of the gate, for this transaction and compare very favorably to the peers.
Neal, I'd like to add here, we have been, I guess I would say, extremely transparent.
Yeah.
We're all used to dealing with commenting on analyst estimates or industry trends. We've shared with the capital markets today a reflection of our own inside forecast, which should be more accurate than analysts, all due respect. And what that combination of those internal forecasts imply that the pro forma earnings of the company. Obviously, we can't assure these numbers of coming about. There's lots of uncertainty in the markets and in the future. But given the simplicity of this combination, and in particular, everyone should understand that our internal forecast at HomeStreet assumes no growth and there are no synergies baked into these numbers. So we believe we have opportunities far beyond the numbers that we're sharing today.
Agreed. Yeah, no, thank you. Page 13. This is one of the most important value aspects from our standpoint. We believe the making of a truly great company starts with a durable franchise on the deposit side. And we've seen companies under stress, quite honestly, not do well on the deposit side in the past year. And I have to say HomeStreet has done a remarkable job, not just on uninsured deposits, as you can see, they're very low relative to peers. But if you look at their non-time deposit franchise, it's almost nine years weighted average age. I can tell you, spending time looking at deals, this is quite rare. Mark, do you want to talk anything about the composition and-
Well, just, just one comment, really. You know, entering this interest rate cycle, particularly when it was clear that the Federal Reserve wasn't going to move slowly, but was going to put their foot down on the accelerator. You know, we, we had a certain amount of anxiety at HomeStreet about how our depositors, our customers, were going to act and how well they really were. And you don't really know the value of your franchise and the quality of your customer relationships until you test them like they've been through. I've got to, I've got to share with you, Neil, even I was impressed, and, and I'm supposed to be optimistic. They really hung in there with us because they want to continue banking with us.
Yeah.
All they ask me is, "Is everything going to be okay, Mark?" And I said, "Absolutely, it's going to be okay.
Yeah.
I think they're all going to be happy today.
No, and I can tell you, having met with the folks who run the retail franchise here, the sense of pride of really executing in this environment, I told them they felt like we had the same company with the same pride that we have in our footprint. So thank you. Page 14, we focus on the loan portfolio. And all I'd say here is the diversification and the credit profile. For those of you who spent time on understanding the differences within CRE, I can tell you on the multifamily portfolio, I've been a long time believer because the credit profile is the best in the industry. So if you're worried about the economy, to me, having a well-seasoned multifamily portfolio, very granular.
For those of you who are less familiar with it, I, I would just say this feels like a portfolio that will perform very well going forward. You see the geographic distribution on the right-hand side of our portfolio, as well as the product pieces. So again, we think we help each other diversify those pieces. There are very low concentrations in office and retail in some of the areas that people have worried about within the CRE categories generally. Page 15. You know, we've all learned a lot more about asset liability, at least outside people have to the industry. What I would tell you is, one of the unique things that HomeStreet and FirstSun saw was, we help each other from liability and asset sensitivity. There's an incredible match that happens as a result of that?
In addition, you know, we prided ourselves at FirstSun of having an extreme focus on driving fee income. We call it financial service revenue. But I would say HomeStreet has some capability there that we will look to continue to bring forward. The other thing I would say, I know some people have a big concern about the mortgage business. You know, the resulting company has less than 5% of its pro forma revenue in gain on sale or the mortgage piece of that business. So we feel very good about the durability of the fee income going forward, and our ability to leverage that, working together with Mark's team's capability and ours across this new footprint. With that, I'm going to turn it over to Rob, who's going to lead us through some of the more financial pieces and components of this transaction. So, Rob?
Thanks, Neal. Page 17, you know, I think sums up the economics and the model assumptions very nicely. As Neal and Mark highlighted earlier, you know, great operation profile for the pro forma company here. You know, we've got 30%+ accretion, 6.5% dilution at close, a fully loaded TB earn back of just shy of two years. On the cost synergy side, you know, we worked collaboratively to develop those, and, and we appreciate that being an, you know, an approaching $20 billion bank, you know, there are certainly some add backs to the gross amount of cost saves that we can achieve here, and, and we factored all that in. Flipping to the next page. You know, a couple additional points of emphasis in terms of the balance sheet, I wanted to touch on.
You can see that our estimated capital ratios at closing are above where actual recent deals have closed at. You know, additionally, you can see the capital build in 2025 is well over 100 basis points. So rapid capital accumulation here, and will continue into 2026. Also, importantly, the combined reserves will be well above peer, and even more so when you adjust for the multifamily piece of the book, which historically has had a super low loss rate. One benefit of the mark to market on the HomeStreet balance sheet is the AOCI goes away. It gives the combined company further capital flexibility. So that unrealized loss component for us, will continue to be quite favorable in comparison to peers. Flipping to the next page.
You know, we love scorecards here at our bank, and I'd say this one paints a pretty darn compelling picture as you look at the combined company's projected performance to our new peer group. We check all the right boxes in terms of profitability here. In terms of trading multiples... I don't know, Neal, would it be an understatement to say the upside opportunity here is considerable?
Yeah. You know, as Rob and I looked at this deal, and as we spent time with our board, you know, I've been in banking for 40 years, and I've probably executed on over 35 deals. I have never, and let me underscore, never seen the kind of upside for our client-combined shareholder group in this transaction. It's incredible. And it's hard to put that into the context when people have kind of looked back in the last 12 months and seen what's been going on in the industry. I often like to say to people, be fearful when people are greedy in this industry, but be greedy when people are fearful. And this is a kind of transaction that fits that bill. Forgot Page 21.
Yeah, on the diligence side, very comprehensive diligence process followed on both bank sides. You know, this wasn't a short process. Both teams were heavily involved. You know, both teams had already been in the process of, of planning for that crossing the $10 billion threshold. So, you know, some natural synergies in, in the ramp-up efforts there that we'll all be able to benefit for, you know, certainly on, on the enterprise risk management side. Mark, would you like to?
Sure. I would just add, you know, this diligence effort is not one directional, right? This is a true merger. We both did substantial diligence. We've had third-party loan review for both loan portfolios. We've had the benefit of looking at all of that. We spent a fair amount of time looking at all of the risk factors and really understanding whether there was any potholes or future risks on both sides, whether they be operational, credit, compliance, et cetera. And basically, we have a great scorecard going both directions.
Yeah.
So we're very comfortable that these are two very solid and well-run institutions with very strong risk management systems already in place. So we feel comfortable that the transition to an over $10 billion institution will be well prepared for and smooth. It makes me feel very comfortable about completing this merger, but also the following challenges of size.
I might just add, you know, Mark and I started visiting back early last summer. I can tell you their process has been very thoughtful, very thorough throughout, as they stepped through the options that they looked at. I can tell you, every time we turned the corner, as we looked at the deposit base, I can tell you, having looked at other banks, we expected to see stress, and I can tell you, this one did not have the stress that we've seen. On the credit side, we liked on the outside the composition, but as we went through the stress testing, we were very impressed with fee income. So every time we went through the pieces, it just proved out to us the durable income statement opportunity here as we work together.
So, you know, sometimes people focus on stock price. I can tell you that's not the best indicator when you look at the underlying franchise here. So as we try to wrap up our thoughts, I guess a couple of things on page 23. We think this is going to be a top-notch, differentiated regional bank with the ability to continue to grow as we've expected and we've seen in our past. We believe we're in some very strong and diverse markets to continue. We love what the balance sheet looks like together, both from a risk profile and from interest rates. We think the financial benefits are incredible for both sets of shareholders, and we're always a fan of having a situation where both people win. We're not opposed to that. We think that's kind of a nice attribute.
Then finally, I think the final thing I'd point out is the ownership group and the shareholder context here. We believe we have a very strong structure that'll give us certainty as we go to the next steps.
Just to put a fine point on that, Neal.
Sure.
The FirstSun Board controls, correct me if I'm wrong, in excess of 70%?
Yeah, right at seven. Yeah.
And so, the vote for the transaction on the First Sun side is assured. In fact, all of the directors on both sides have signed voting agreements to that end.
Yeah.
The capital in this transaction, part of which is coming in today, the remainder is fully committed by strong institutional investors. I think when people see the details of that, they're going to be equally impressed.
Yeah. Thank you, Mark. That kind of covers the topics that we were planning on stepping through. We've provided you the details. I appreciate you guys listening, and we'll open it up for questions.
T hank you. As a reminder, if you'd like to register any audio questions, please press star one on your telephone keypad. If you change your mind, please press star two, and please ensure you're unmuted when speaking. Our first question comes from Matthew Clark of Piper Sandler. Matthew, please go ahead.
Hey, good morning, everyone.
Hey, Matt .
My first question is around the hey, how are you? My first question is around the standalone HomeStreet earnings assumption. I think $33 million, again, standalone. I think Street was at $18 million. It sounds like you're not assuming any growth, but can you give us some more color on what your rate assumptions are, kind of balance, overall balance sheet size, you know, maybe the contribution from NII? Just trying to get more color behind the $33 million of earnings.
Sure. And these are the 2025 earnings we're speaking of, right? Our balance sheet starts to heal itself significantly toward the end of this year, and obviously more significantly in 2025. And so our net interest margin recovery drives the lion's share of those earnings. Our interest rate assumption this year ties closely to the guidance that the Federal Reserve has given on rate cuts, though we assume them to occur in the last three meetings of the year at 25 basis points each. And then we transition our rate forecast essentially to what the yield curve is expecting in 2025.
The activity otherwise in our base forecast is really very limited growth in the balance sheet, continuing to primarily originate variable rate loans as we have the last year or so, ELOCs, homebuilding loans, C&I loans, and still experiencing limited, very limited, prepayments in the multifamily portfolio and the single-family portfolio. So it looks a lot like the same balance sheet we have today, Matt. It just earns more as we start getting more asset repricing and given the rate forecast, a little relief on deposit costs.
Okay, great. And then just on a kind of go-forward basis, I think you guys have ceased originating new multifamily production. How should we think about kind of the go-forward plan? Should we just expect multifamily, single family resi to shrink over time on a combined basis and kind of going after C&I? Just trying to get a sense for the targeted mix of the loan portfolio.
Yeah, I'll give you a sense of that, Matthew. This is Rob Cafera. We will see some remixing in the sheet, as the C&I piece of the business rolls out further in the Pacific Northwest and Southern California. So we will see a remix there within the loan categories, between the historical legacy concentrations that you're familiar with on the HomeStreet side, multifamily and to a lesser extent on the resi side. We'll see that shift and it'll look more and more like the concentration mix that you see on the FirstSun side as we continue to evolve over the next many years.
The other point I would make is we don't anticipate any bulk sales of the multifamily asset class. You know, that's important. We think we have plenty of balance sheet flexibility with our combined companies, so there's no need to do bulk sale. The refresh accounting is our friend here.
We certainly love the depth line.
Got it.
We'll continue to leverage that strategic benefit that HomeStreet's always enjoyed.
Okay. And then how many warrants are being issued to the new investors, and what's the strike price?
That, that will be filed in an 8-K, correct. Yeah.
Okay. And then, can you provide some additional color on the other investor in the deal other than Wellington? And I believe Capital Creek is involved. I'm just wondering who the other investor is and what the background is there.
That will also be in the 8-K.
Okay, fair enough. Thank you.
Thank you.
As a reminder, that's star one to register a question. Our next question comes from Woody Lay of Stifel. Woody, please go ahead.
Hey, good morning, guys.
Hey, Woody.
Wanted to start with the loan-to-deposit ratio. You know, if I look at the two balance sheets where they stand today, that puts the ratio at about 105%. Where do you see that ratio ultimately going to with the pro forma company, and what leverage do you have to pull to help lower the ratio?
Yeah, you know, at close, we would project and expect to see that loan-to-deposit to be right around that 100% neighborhood, slightly in excess. Over time, we would certainly expect to see that come back down. You know, we want to see that get down into the mid- to low 90s. So that'll be where our focus is. You know, we actually think we've got an incredible competitive advantage with the retail deposit franchises that we have, both on the HomeStreet side and the FirstSun side. We'll continue to leverage, you know, the strengths that we have in each of those branch networks, you know, as we bring these two great organizations together. You know, I'd say I'd point you to the next couple of years and the continued improvement in that loan-to-deposit ratio that we'll be pursuing there.
I think if you look at our combined balance sheet, there's a lot of flexibility with our two books. You know, there's not a huge, I'll call it, less liquid components that you'd see in some banks.
Got it. That's helpful. Maybe next, just for FirstSun, you know, you've been very successful over the past several years on shifting the focus of the company from CRE to C&I. You know, C&I was less of a focus for HomeStreet. So you've touched on it a couple of times, but can you just expand on the opportunity to sort of build out the C&I portfolio in the Pacific Northwest and Southern California markets?
Yeah, you know, our experience, whether that's in Phoenix, whether it's in Denver or Dallas or Houston now, we've had success in recruiting teams and building a core C&I franchise in those markets. So I'd expect that there's plenty of opportunity to continue to do that. Mark's team has a good start in the Pacific Northwest. Our focus is probably going to be building out the Southern Cal. You know, just the diversity economically of that market and the size, and certainly a lot of our competitors have been wounded, and so we see the opportunity to build a team and grow that organically. So we like fishing in big ponds.
Yeah. And I'm assuming any hiring associated with that initiative, it's sort of already built into the cost savings numbers?
Yes.
Okay. And then last for me, you know, it feels like a valuable time to have that comprehensive third-party credit review. I know we touched on the multifamily portfolio, but just how are you feeling about credit outside of that portfolio?
So, you know, who knows what the economy is going to look like? I think we've all been surprised by how strong the economy has stayed, given the uncertainties that have been going on. So I feel good. You know, C&I portfolio is more event driven. It's not one single macro event, so I feel good there. And let me say, as it relates to, you know, going forward, the bulk of both of our focus is continuing to build within our footprint, and there's just a lot that's going on that's good. You know, I tell people, you know, Dallas, Houston, you know, you could build a $20 billion bank in each of those markets alone, you know, from where we started.
If you now go to Southern California, you know, there's an opportunity to do that. One of the hidden gems we believe is in Phoenix. You know, Phoenix is in the process of becoming a much more diverse economy, as they've seen growth in the last five and six years. We're very bullish on the economic regions that we have. Then the Pacific Northwest, you know, it's just, it's not just the big companies, it's the spin-off that happens from all the next tier companies around them.
Got it. That's all for me. Thanks for taking my questions, and, congrats on the deal.
Thanks, Woody.
Thank you.
We have no further questions on the phone line, so I'll hand back to the team for any closing remarks.
Thank you all for joining us. Obviously, we're excited about this opportunity. Thank you for participating in the call. Now the hard work begins, and we're excited to get to work and make this happen. Thank you.
Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's call. Thank you for joining. You may now disconnect.