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Earnings Call: Q1 2018

May 3, 2018

Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to the Fortinet first quarter 2018 earnings conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, we will conduct a question and answer session, and instructions will follow at that time. If anyone should require assistance during today's conference, please press the star then 0 key on your touch-tone telephone to reach an operator. As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Mr. Peter Salkowski, Vice President of Investor Relations. Sir, you may begin.

Peter Salkowski
VP of Investor Relations, Fortinet

Thank you, Takia. Good afternoon, everyone. This is Peter Salkowski, Vice President of Investor Relations at Fortinet. I'm pleased to welcome you to our call to discuss Fortinet's financial results for the first quarter of 2018. Speakers on today's call are Ken Xie, Fortinet's Founder, Chairman, and CEO, and Keith Jensen, our CFO. This is a live call that is available for replay via webcast on our investor relations website. Ken will begin our call today by providing a high level of perspective on our business. Keith will then follow our financial and operating results and conclude by providing our forward guidance outlook before opening up the call for questions.

During the Q&A session, we ask that you please be aware of the limited time we have for this call and make your questions brief to allow others to participate, as we have discontinued the practice of hosting a second call. Before we begin, I'd like to remind you that on today's call, we will be making forward-looking statements. These forward-looking statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those projected in these statements. Please refer to our SEC filings, in particular, the risk factors in our most recent Form 10-K and Forms 10-Q for more information. All forward-looking statements reflect our opinions only as of the date of this presentation, and we undertake no obligation, and specifically disclaim any obligation, to update forward-looking statements. Also, all references to financial metrics that we make on today's call are non-GAAP, unless otherwise stated.

Our GAAP results and GAAP to non-GAAP reconciliations can be found in our earnings press release and in the presentation that accompany today's remarks, both of which are posted on our investor relations website. As for the presentation, the last slide summarizes the impact of the accounting change to ASC 606, with regards to the first quarter results. Lastly, all references to growth are on a year-over-year basis unless otherwise noted. I will now turn the call over to Ken.

Ken Xie
Founder, Chairman, and CEO, Fortinet

Thanks, Peter, and thank you for everyone for join to this call to discuss our first quarter 2018 result. Once again, we demonstrate our market leadership by our strong first quarter performance. In the quarter, billings were up 15% to $463 million, and revenue was up 17% to $399 million, both above the high end of our guidance. We continue to invest to fuel our above-market growth, especially in sales and marketing, while remaining focused on improving profitability. During the quarter, we host our first-ever financial analyst day together with Accelerate, our global partner and customer conference. The event provided us with a forum to review the strong performance of our financial model, as well as highlight our significant opportunities for growth with our Security Fabric architecture. The feedback we received from both analysts and investors were extremely positive.

An important message we conveyed during the financial analyst day was the evolution of network security in this period of digital transformation. Fortinet pioneered and lead the current generation of UTM and next-gen firewall network security, and is pioneering and leading the new generation of network security, which we refer to as the third generation. The third generation of network security, which is the Security Fabric, is in the early stage and delivers integrated protection and detection across entire digital attack surface. We expect that this evolution will drive growth within our installed base and also with new customers. In the first quarter, our core FortiGate network security business account for three-quarters of the billings. This market-leading network security business is driven by our unmatched security functionality and performance of a highly differentiated FortiASIC technology security processor unit (SPU).

Developing customized ASIC to enhance application performance is a growing trend among leading technology companies, such as Nvidia with its GPU and Google with its TPU ASIC. FortiOS 6.0 was released in Q1 and is the most widely deployed network security operating system in the market. It is the central building block for the latest evolution of Fortinet Security Fabric, as well as applications such as IoT, SD-WAN, and hybrid cloud security. Billings for our non-FortiGate part of Fabric grow faster than our FortiGate business and accounted for a quarter of our billings. The Fortinet Security Fabric delivers a broad and widely integrated and automated security solution for enterprise worldwide, offering huge opportunity for growth. Additionally, cloud security continues to be a faster-growing part of our business. We work with all of the major cloud providers and will continue to expand our Fabric offering for multi-cloud environments.

As of Q1, the Security Fabric is fully available within AWS environments. During the quarter, we announced 11 new Fabric-Ready partners, including Arista, IBM, McAfee, ServiceNow, and VMware. To date, Fortinet has 43 Fabric-Ready partners, which further expand our Security Fabric across the hybrid cloud. The transition into the third generation of network security is expected to drive our growth as well as market share gains in the next few years. We continue to balance investment to make sure Fortinet remain a technology and market leader while improving operating margin as we work towards our goal of achieving our long-term operating margin target of 25% by 2022. Now, before I turn the call over for a review of our first quarter financial result, I would like to congratulate Keith Jensen for being appointed by our board of directors to be our Chief Financial Officer. Congratulations, Keith.

I will now turn the call over to you for a close look at our first quarter performance and our second quarter and full-year guidance.

Keith Jensen
CFO, Fortinet

Thank you, Ken. I look forward to working with you and the entire Fortinet team. I also appreciate the support of the board and the Fortinet executive team. Turning to the quarter, I'm very pleased with our first quarter results. Revenues, margins, and earnings per share all performed well. We posted strong year-over-year billings growth, and we repurchased over $100 million of stock. Security remains a growing industry, and we are well positioned to outpace the market. Our product portfolio, geographic diversity, and our mission to deliver the most innovative and highest performing network security fabric in the industry places us in a strong leadership position. We remain committed to achieving above-industry growth, improving profitability, and as Ken mentioned, achieving our non-GAAP operating margin goal of 25% by 2022. For our first quarter results, starting with revenue.

Revenue grew 17% to $399 million, driven by service revenue growth of 25% to $256 million. As a reminder, we provide two subscription-based services attached to most of our product sales. Our traditional support offering, FortiCare, generated first quarter revenue of $110 million, up 35%. Our security subscription offering, FortiGuard, generated revenue of $137 million, up 20%. Consistent with my commentary at the Analyst Day regarding predictability, existing deferred revenue accounted for 60% of our first quarter revenue. In the first quarter, deferred revenue itself grew to $1.4 billion, up 27%. Our mix of short-term and long-term deferred revenue was consistent quarter-over-quarter at 59% current and 41% long-term. In the first quarter, product revenue was $143 million versus $135 million in the year-earlier period. Product revenue in the first quarter of 2018 included a $5.7 million benefit from the change to 606 accounting.

We expect a similar to smaller impact to revenue throughout the rest of 2018. The average contract length decreased sequentially one month to 25 months in the first quarter. FortiGate unit shipments increased 20% year-over-year. As you can see on slides five and six, we remain a geographically diversified business. First quarter revenue from Americas represented 44% of our business and grew 20%. EMEA represented 36% of our business and grew 15%. APAC represented 20% of our business and grew 16%. Turning to billings. First quarter billings of $463 million grew 15%. Solid growth despite a difficult year-earlier comp due to an eight-figure deal in the first quarter of 2017. We saw continued growth in both enterprise and UTM service bundles during the quarter. The Security Fabric and cloud continued to outpace our growth.

The Security Fabric, which is the largest component of our non-FortiGate offerings, benefited from customers' recognition of its value, performance, and comprehensive security coverage. Our enterprise successes in the quarter included a mid-seven-figure renewal and cross-sell deal with a major U.S. technology company. The cross-sell component was a competitive displacement using our advanced threat protection element of the Security Fabric, providing stronger integration and effectiveness against an existing point solution. Further, our licensing model provided the customer with the ongoing choice of appliance or cloud deployments. Regarding cloud billings, while the billings are relatively small versus the rest of the business, we experienced triple-digit growth in both on-demand cloud consumption and bring your own license. Across our cloud partners, AWS continues to be the leader, with contributions coming from Azure. Oracle, Google, and IBM each came online with initial billings during the first quarter.

Bring Your Own License growth was fueled by five and six-figure engagements across the major cloud providers, along with a seven-figure cloud engagement with a large enterprise U.S. retailer. Let's now turn to the breakdown of our billings across our top five verticals in mid-enterprise and enterprise markets. Service providers accounted for 20% of billings, followed by government at 14%, financial services at 11%, retail at 9%, and education at 7%. The billing breakdown by vertical, as well as the percentage of billings coming from the top five verticals, is consistent with the average of the last 10 quarters. On a geographic basis, billings in the Americas grew 11%, EMEA billings grew 21%, and APAC billings were up 13%. The number of deals over $50,000 grew 20%, illustrating the continued strength of our network security business among small and medium-sized enterprise.

The number of deals over $1 million were up 21%, demonstrating growth in our enterprise business. Looking at our top 25 customer billings, which were all over $1 million, we saw a pattern similar to prior quarters. These billings showed a predictable balance across business verticals and geographies with a slight uptick in the Americas. The top two deals were mid seven-figure deals in the EMEA carrier group. In the first quarter, we saw customer billings weighted towards renewals in line with our seasonal pattern. Returning to the income statement, our first quarter gross margin was up year-over-year from 74.5% to 76.7%, or 2.1 points. Our product gross margin was consistent with the prior year at about 60%, while services gross margins expanded 1.6 points to 86%.

Our gross margin remains strong due to the mix shift in our revenue to higher margin, more predictable subscription services, providing a tailwind to longer-term gross margins. Excluding a benefit of $11.7 million from the new accounting standards and how it impacted commissions, total first quarter operating expenses were up 17% to $247 million. The increase in operating expenses was driven by a $7 million headwind from FX and a 16.8% increase in sales and marketing. Hiring in the fourth quarter of 2017 and the first quarter of 2018 was a significant driver of the increased operating expenses. Since September 30th, 2017, the headcount for sales and marketing has increased 12%. We continue investing in sales capacity in order to fuel growth. Our goal remains to balance it with near-term and long-term profit goals.

That said, we are now entering a phase of more normalized headcount activity. Including a benefit of approximately 390 basis points associated with a 606 accounting change, the first quarter operating margin was 17.7%, up 510 basis points year-over-year. Excluding the 390 basis point benefit, the first quarter operating margin would have been 13.8%. This is 130 basis points higher than the midpoint of our 12%-13% guidance range under the old accounting rules. The upside in operating margin is due to strong gross margin performance, resulting from slightly better than expected revenue growth and the mix shift discussed a moment ago. Please refer to the last slide in the earnings deck, where we posted on our investor relations website this afternoon a line-by-line comparison between our non-GAAP results and our non-GAAP results excluding the impact of 606.

For the remainder of 2018, we now expect the operating margin benefit from 606 to be around 250 basis points. Net income for the first quarter was $57 million, or $0.33 per share, based on approximately 172 million diluted shares. Excluding the full 606 benefit, our first quarter earnings per share would have been $0.26 versus our guidance of $0.21-$0.22, with the upside attributable to better than expected margin performance. As expected, the annualized non-GAAP tax rate was 24%. Slides eight and nine review our balance sheet and provide more information for your reference on our cash flow. We ended the quarter with a strong balance sheet, including $1.4 billion in cash and investments. During the quarter, we repatriated $130 million of overseas cash. We expect to be able to repatriate an additional $150 million over the remainder of 2018.

We ended the first quarter with inventory of $80 million. Inventory turns were 2.4 times, up from 1.6 times in the year earlier period and above our average of approximately 2.2 times. Cash from operations was $140 million, representing growth of 8%. Free cash flow in the first quarter was $128 million, up 10%. Capital expenditures in the first quarter were $12 million. Second quarter capital expenditures should be between $25 million-$30 million. Construction of our new headquarters is expected to start in the third quarter. We estimate 2018 spending on this project to be approximately $20 million-$30 million. Occurring mostly in the second half of the year. Capital expenditures for all of 2018 are expected to be $85 million-$100 million. In the first quarter, we returned $115.5 million to our shareholders through the repurchase of 2.5 million shares of Fortinet stock.

As of March 31, 2018, approximately $327 million remain in share repurchase authorization for the plan that expires in January 2019. We believe share repurchase is a good method for returning value to our shareholders and expect to continue this practice. Now turning to guidance. First, I'd like to remind everyone of the forward-looking disclaimer Peter presented at the start of the call and how it applies to the guidance specifically that I'm about to provide. In the second quarter, guidance including the benefit of 606, we expect billings in the range of $485 million-$495 million. Revenue in the range of $420 million-$430 million. Non-GAAP gross margin of 75%-76%. Non-GAAP operating margins of 18.5%-19%. This guidance includes an operating margin benefit of 200 basis points from 606.

Non-GAAP earnings per share of $0.34-$0.36, which again includes a benefit of $0.05 from ASC 606 and assumes a share count of 173 million-175 million. For 2018, the full year, including the benefit of ASC 606, we expect billings in the range of $2.04 billion-$2.065 billion. Revenue in the range of $1.715 billion-$1.735 billion. Non-GAAP gross margin of 75%-76%. Non-GAAP operating margin of 20.2%-20.7%. This includes an operating margin benefit of 250 basis points from ASC 606. Non-GAAP tax rate still at 24%. Non-GAAP earnings per share of $1.51-$1.55, which includes a benefit of $0.19 from ASC 606 and assumes a share count of 175 million-177 million.

Slide 12 on the earnings slide deck I referenced a moment ago contains a summary of our guidance for the second quarter and for the full year. With that, I'll now hand the call back to Peter.

Peter Salkowski
VP of Investor Relations, Fortinet

Thank you, Keith. We are ready to open the call for questions. Again, as a reminder, just please keep your questions brief as we're trying to get through as many of as we can in the next 40 minutes.

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, at this time, if you have a question, please press the star followed by the number 1 key on your touch tone telephone. If your question has been answered or you wish to remove yourself from the queue, please press the pound key. To prevent any background noise, we ask that you please place your line on mute once your question has been stated. Once again, that's star 1 for questions. Our first question comes from Shaul Eyal of Oppenheimer. Your line is now open.

Shaul Eyal
Analyst, Oppenheimer

Thank you. Good afternoon, guys. Congrats on a strong performance and guidance. Congrats, Keith, on the promotion. Great work across the board when even excluding the ASC 606 impact. Great work on deferred revenue, up nicely year-over-year. My question is on EMEA. Another set of strong results. In your case, is it GDPR specifically or is it the ongoing good execution, demand environment, pricing, all of the above? How would you characterize that? Thank you.

Ken Xie
Founder, Chairman, and CEO, Fortinet

Shaul, it's Ken. Good question. I think it's a combination of both. We always have strong team in EMEA and also GDPR also help. Compared to some other region, the EMEA team's pretty long-term stable. They keeping doing quite well.

Shaul Eyal
Analyst, Oppenheimer

Got it. Thank you for that. I'll step aside this time. Thank you. Good luck.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Fatima Boolani of UBS. Your line is now open.

Fatima Boolani
Analyst, UBS

Thank you for taking the questions. A quick one for Ken. Ken, 2017 marked a year in which you saw a sort of divergent strength in the carrier vertical, where if international was strong, domestic was weak. I was wondering what sort of trends you're seeing in 2018, then a quick follow-up for Keith around large deal. In your prepared remarks, you mentioned a ton of large deal momentum both on the new product side as well as renewal side. Can you help us walk through sort of how you discount large deal and large deal momentum in your guidance? That's it for me. Thank you.

Ken Xie
Founder, Chairman, and CEO, Fortinet

I think the carrier service provider space, I use in a stabilized, starting recover, but not quite there yet. Especially international, they're a little bit ahead of American here in U.S. Also, kind of a little bit related to the previous question Shaul asked, because our top two deal come from the Europe service provider carrier space, that's also helping both on the Europe carrier space a lot. If you compare to year-over-year, it's pretty much, on a percentage-wise, pretty much flat. I say it's still a lot of opportunity, also we launched a new product, the high-end, more targeted carrier, the big service provider, the big enterprise account, which also takes some time, because it tend to be long sales cycle. That's also, we say, we need some time to ramp up

Keith Jensen
CFO, Fortinet

Hi, Pamela. Good question.

To really get to the quick of it, we look at large deals. We split large deals between the U.S. and the rest of the world. It's a larger population oftentimes in the U.S. as compared to the rest of the world, we want to bifurcate that when we look at our forecasting and guidance setting process. We look at our historical rates of number of deals, the dollar value associated with those deals, and our historical close rates. We have conversations with the key salespeople that are involved to get a sense of where we should be with our expected close rates in the current quarter as we set our guidance.

Fatima Boolani
Analyst, UBS

Very helpful, congratulations on the formal appointment.

Keith Jensen
CFO, Fortinet

Yeah, thank you very much.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Sterling Auty of JPMorgan. Your line is now open.

Sterling Auty
Analyst, JPMorgan

Yeah, thanks. Hi, guys. Just want a little help reconciling, I think, Keith, you mentioned unit volumes were up 20%, you have billings up 15%. How much of the difference was mix, which you talked about? How much was duration? Were there any other factors to bridge the two growth rates?

Keith Jensen
CFO, Fortinet

Yeah, we're very pleased with the 20% growth in our unit shipments, right? That provides a footprint for us to continue to sell services. First and foremost, that's very attractive. I think when you look at the mix year-over-year, what we did not have was the large high-end deal in the first quarter of 2018 that we had in the first quarter of 2017. When you look at the mix between high end, low end, and mid-range, we saw more low end in the quarter than we did a year ago.

Sterling Auty
Analyst, JPMorgan

Got it.

Ken Xie
Founder, Chairman, and CEO, Fortinet

Yeah, go ahead.

Sterling Auty
Analyst, JPMorgan

No, go ahead. Sorry.

Ken Xie
Founder, Chairman, and CEO, Fortinet

Oh, I say that's the one single deal, eight-digit, one years ago, pretty much all high end. Also in the last few quarter, we launched the 6,000, 7,000, the new 7,000, which also take a little bit long time to sell, because that's our bigger account carrier. That also contribute to some of the high-end percentage a little bit lower. We do see is a more competitive product, which we feel a lot of confidence will be keeping gaining share also in the high end later.

Sterling Auty
Analyst, JPMorgan

That makes sense. Keith, one more, just working capital impact on cash flow in the quarter. I think cash from operations may have been down or flattish year-over-year. What was happening in working capital, and what should we expect as we look to the full year on the cash from operations side?

Keith Jensen
CFO, Fortinet

We don't typically model to free cash flow or operating cash flow. My recollection was that it was up slightly, 8% on operating cash flow year-over-year. We feel good about that. I think I've spoken previously that some of the large drivers, in addition to obviously earnings, monitoring inventory changes, deferred revenue, and such, are among the large drivers as you go forward and model it.

Sterling Auty
Analyst, JPMorgan

Okay, thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Gabriela Borges of Goldman Sachs. Your line is now open.

Gabriela Borges
Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Great. Good afternoon. Thanks for taking that question. Keith, on the outlook for the full year, you mentioned the elevated hiring in Q4 and Q1. Just curious how you're thinking about the productivity of those folks ramping and how you're incorporating that or thinking about what that could mean for guidance in the second half. The follow-up is for Ken on SD-WAN technology. What we tend to see with communications technology is that they take multiple years to ramp. The question is, are you starting to see SD-WAN come up in more conversations, and how does your solution compare to something like a Zscaler or a Cisco when you think about the competitive environment there? Thank you.

Keith Jensen
CFO, Fortinet

Hi, Gabriela. Thank you very much for the question. I think we would expect in remodeling seasonality in the current year that's not inconsistent with what we've seen in earlier years. I think that's one part of your question. The second part, I think, was productivity. I would say I feel very comfortable with the required productivity level, based upon the current headcount and the net headcount planning as we go forward for the rest of the year.

Ken Xie
Founder, Chairman, and CEO, Fortinet

For the question related to the SD-WAN, the other cloud-related player, and also like Cisco, we have SD-WAN fully integrated into the FortiOS, which we have a one box. They offer both the security, the SD-WAN, the other like Wi-Fi access, the other networks function, access function, like Wi-Fi, all these things. It's different than the other vendor. They have to use a multiple box. Today's SD-WAN offering, they don't have a processing power, don't have computing power to do any security thing there. That's a huge advantage to the customer. Also different compared to some cloud provider, which SD-WAN is really the benefits more come from the branch office, a lot of a big deployment for the service provider. That's where it's a huge benefit if they can integrate together with the security function, with other networking access function together.

That we see a lot of advantage and a lot of interest, a lot of trial from the field. We do believe we're leading this space, and we'll be benefit a lot from this well-integrated and automated approach.

Gabriela Borges
Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Thank you for the color.

Ken Xie
Founder, Chairman, and CEO, Fortinet

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Keith Bachman of Bank of Montreal. Your line is now open.

Keith Bachman
Analyst, Bank of Montreal

Thank you very much. Keith, congratulations on the appointment. I had two, and I'll just ask them at once. First, Keith, for you indicated that the 606 benefit, the revs, which is thank you very much for the helpful chart, was about $6 million or a little bit over all in. I think you said it was less going forward, but I just wanted to see if you could clarify, pursuant to the top-line guidance that you provided for 2018, what the benefit is. Again, you've been very helpful in providing the operating income and EPS, but just want a little bit of granularity on the top line. The second, Ken, is for you.

When we gathered in Vegas a few months ago, you were talking about the margins post this year, and you were going to take some investor feedback on the dilemma or challenge or opportunity of pursuing more market share versus the margins. I just wanted to see if you had any additional comments pursuant to any feedback you might have gotten. My take from the call, you sounded positive on certainly reaching the milestone that you've established for 2022 of 25%. I just wanted to see if you want to offer any follow-up color. That's it for me. Thanks very much.

Keith Jensen
CFO, Fortinet

Hi, Keith. Thank you for your comments. Don't want to make it too much of accounting granularity. Two things that impact us really on the revenue line for ASC 606. One is some time-based software licenses revenue. That's the small item that we continue to see benefit from the rest of the year. The second change was how we recognize revenue in the U.S. market. Previously, we were on a sell-through basis.

Keith Bachman
Analyst, Bank of Montreal

Right.

Keith Jensen
CFO, Fortinet

We are now on a sell-in basis. That change probably lifted revenue about $4 million in the quarter. I would not expect that one-time change, even with small numbers, I would not expect to see that one-time type change again in future quarters. That's why I'm guiding a lower impact on the revenue line going forward.

Keith Bachman
Analyst, Bank of Montreal

Okay. That $4 was part of the $6, Keith?

Keith Jensen
CFO, Fortinet

Yes.

Keith Bachman
Analyst, Bank of Montreal

Okay. Thank you.

Ken Xie
Founder, Chairman, and CEO, Fortinet

Like I said, I kind of repeated the target of a 25% margin by 2022 in my script there. Also we see the market opportunity. I think it's probably in the next one to two years, you will see some refreshes that will come up. We do believe, we in the last couple of quarters, we add additional hiring effort and catch up the hiring shortfall we have in early part of last year. We do add a sales capacity, but at the same time, we also want to improve in the productivity and also make sure the efficiency also there. That's where we try to balance among these two. The end goal is the same.

We may try to leave a little bit wrong on the way to reach there, as we also depend on the market condition, the product launching, and the other things we're doing within the company. The goal is the same. We want to reach 25% operation margin in the next three years. It's also we still try to balance among both the growth and also the profitability margin.

Keith Bachman
Analyst, Bank of Montreal

Okay. Thank you, Ken.

Ken Xie
Founder, Chairman, and CEO, Fortinet

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Melissa Franchi of Morgan Stanley. Your line is now open.

Melissa Franchi
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Yes, thanks for taking my question. Ken, you mentioned 20% unit growth, I'm just wondering if you could characterize to what extent is that coming from the refresh of your existing base, or is there greenfield opportunity? When the customer refreshes an appliance, is there any way to think about the additional spend that they are spending with Fortinet, either through a bigger appliance or spending additional around the services?

Ken Xie
Founder, Chairman, and CEO, Fortinet

I think the high-end take a little bit more time to close the deal because we launched the high-end 6000, 7000 in the last few quarters. That's where the percentage come from high end a little bit lower, but the total unit growth 20% above the building growth of 15%. A lot helping come from whether I think we starting to have SD-WAN function in 5.6, which is the FortiOS we launched almost two years ago, the FortiOS 6.0 keeping enhancing that. That also drive a lot of our branch office deployment and other interest from the field. That's where helping drive a lot of SMB, some low-end unit growing there. We do believe the high end will keep coming back after maybe a couple of quarters once the customer fully evaluate the benefit of the high-end unit.

Also sometimes the carrier service provider and the big account also take a little bit long time to close the deal. The unit is more driven by the low-end side. It's above average.

Melissa Franchi
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Okay. Just one quick follow-up for Keith. I just wanted to hear your views on continued return of cash now that you're repatriating cash throughout 2018, and how investors should think about the use of cash across buybacks versus potential M&A.

Keith Jensen
CFO, Fortinet

Thanks, Melissa. I think we've talked before that in Q1, we said we thought we'd be aggressive in our buyback approach. I think you should expect. I would offer the same commentary that I expect Q2 or as we move through the year to be consistent with Q1, if that's what you're looking for. I think our overall strategy.

Melissa Franchi
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Just balancing relative to M&A.

Keith Jensen
CFO, Fortinet

I think we've continued to have a history of looking at tuck-ins as we build out the fabric. I don't sense a change of that in the last couple of months. We continue to be very proud with our organic approach to building out our fully integrated product suite. We continue to believe that there is significant benefit from that methodology, and we're very happy with it.

Ken Xie
Founder, Chairman, and CEO, Fortinet

Also for the unit growth, like we have based on the ITC data, we almost have a 30% of total global deployment. In some region country like APAC, we almost have more than half of the deployment is really the Fortinet product. We do expect keeping gaining a share. I hope in a few years we can have a global more than half, more than 50% of global deployments really are for FortiGate product. That's also keeping driving by the new ASIC come up later this year and also the new FortiOS 6.0, which also add a lot of function, like SD-WAN helping driving the additional growth.

Melissa Franchi
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Okay, thank you very much.

Ken Xie
Founder, Chairman, and CEO, Fortinet

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Saket Kalia of Barclays. Your line is now open.

Saket Kalia
Analyst, Barclays

Hi, guys. Thanks for taking my questions here, and congrats as well to you, Keith, on the permanent seat.

Keith Jensen
CFO, Fortinet

Thank you very much.

Saket Kalia
Analyst, Barclays

Hey, maybe just to start with you, Keith. Can you just talk a little bit about the cloud security part of the business? I think you said it's the fastest-growing part of the business, but can you talk about how much of that is maybe coming from new customers versus existing?

Keith Jensen
CFO, Fortinet

Don't know. We would have probably three key elements to the cloud. When we talk about cloud, we would talk about on-demand or pay-as-you-go, as we call it. We would talk about BYOL, and we would also talk about on-prem or hybrid clouds. Obviously, the on-demand, I couldn't speak to where it's source of new customers or existing customers. I really don't have color in terms of new logos versus existing logos on BYOL or hybrid or on-prem.

Saket Kalia
Analyst, Barclays

Okay.

Keith Jensen
CFO, Fortinet

Overall, I would say I'm very, very excited about the cloud opportunity, particularly with them all coming online now. I understand they have somewhat different models sometimes. You may have some that are more focused on on-demand, others that are maybe focused on leveraging their current customer or client base and more of a BYOL model. There's a lot of exciting things happening in the cloud for us.

Ken Xie
Founder, Chairman, and CEO, Fortinet

Yeah, Keith mentioned in the earnings group is cloud is a triple-digit growth. Also besides cloud, we also are leading and see strong growth potential in the IoT/OT space. We demonstrate, in Analyst Day, the connect car security and a lot of IoT/OT security also, we starting to see a lot of potential going forward.

Keith Jensen
CFO, Fortinet

Yeah, I would probably just come back to the one example we gave in my text earlier. It was an existing customer, but we also used that opportunity to displace a competitor, and we would call that a hybrid cloud type of a situation. The total universe remains small, but that was very noticeable and very positive for us.

Ken Xie
Founder, Chairman, and CEO, Fortinet

I also mentioned in the AWS, we offer the full fabric in the cloud environment. That's not only the network security, but also from email, from WAF, from the log analysis, from all the management and endpoint. There's a lot of a fabric approach in the cloud environment. I think we have the most broad solution. That's really the fabric approach also doing well in the cloud environment.

Saket Kalia
Analyst, Barclays

Ken, that's actually a great segue into my follow-up for you. I know that we said the non-FortiGate business is still about 25% of total. Could you just talk about your conversations with customers and just anecdotally, how willing are they to consolidate perhaps some of their security vendors and adopt other parts of the fabric outside of FortiGate?

Ken Xie
Founder, Chairman, and CEO, Fortinet

I think so far we're leading gaining share based on the most come from the FortiGate. The advantage we have with all other part of fabric integrate together, that has huge advantage because the number one issue customer facing today is really the management cost is very high. On the big enterprise, average, they have to deal with 20 to 30 different security vendor, and most of them don't even connect or talk to each other, which making the fabric of a core infrastructure security defense is very difficult. If you cannot integrate, you cannot automate a defense. You cannot make all these different part infrastructure working together to defend attack. That's the huge advantage of the fabric. Not only just our own product, but also the Fabric-Ready program. I mentioned we have 43 Fabric-Ready partner.

That's also make sure each all different part of a infrastructure can talk to each other. FortiGate had the Fortinet product have all the API to integrate with other different partner also. This approach, we see huge advantage, the lower the management cost make it more secure, more automate to defense. That's where the enterprise like it a lot. We do see the huge potential going forward, both within our own product, which we tend to build from the beginning to integrate, automate together, and also working with our partner product. It's grow faster than the FortiGate, also is a huge opportunity to up-sell, cross-sell our installation base. Like I mentioned, we have almost 30% global deployment on the unit base, which also give us a huge base to potentially grow from the current base.

The new opportunity mostly comes from enterprise. We also see a lot of potential there.

Saket Kalia
Analyst, Barclays

Very helpful. Thanks, guys.

Ken Xie
Founder, Chairman, and CEO, Fortinet

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Gray Powell of Deutsche Bank. Your line is now open.

Gray Powell
Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Great. Thanks for taking the questions. Maybe just at the industry level, how do you feel about the pace of appliance or product revenue growth in 2018 versus 2017?

Ken Xie
Founder, Chairman, and CEO, Fortinet

I feel the market condition probably improving a little bit. Like I mentioned, every four or five years, the refresh cycle come up. The last refresh cycle come from 2013 and 2014. That time mostly come from the, we call the current generation UTM next-gen firewall, replacing the traditional firewall. Now we see the new refresh come in. I would rather say this is the new generation using the infrastructure Fabric approach, which connect from the network side to the endpoint, to the cloud, to the access to the application, like email, web together to defend, replacing just the network security only. That's where we feel this is a new trend, and it just started and may take a few years to, even for some, both the customer partner to realize the benefit of this infrastructure protection approach.

I do believe this is part of opportunity to refresh, to accelerate some of the growth, both in the appliance and also in the cloud environment. Because the Fabric do include in the cloud, which is a part of the infrastructure. That's kind of an addition to the traditional appliance, which also needed in a lot of our campus environment and also in a lot of branch office, also in the headquarter data center.

Gray Powell
Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Understood. Then, yeah.

Keith Jensen
CFO, Fortinet

Sorry, Gray, this is Keith again. I would just add to that again, 20% unit shipment growth year-over-year. I think we've been talking about that for a couple of quarters now on our calls. I'm excited about the shipment growth, and I'm not concerned about whether it shows up in product or services longer term. We just want to continue to have our footprint with our customers and the opportunity to continue to add more services to them.

Gray Powell
Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Got it. Okay. You actually hit on my follow-up, which is, 2014, it was a really good year for you guys after the Target breach. Are you starting to see that refresh activity hitting now, or should we expect that coming in the next, call it 6, 12, 18 months?

Ken Xie
Founder, Chairman, and CEO, Fortinet

This special customer study evaluation. It's not like last time that they rushed to buy because there are few bigger cases, made a lot of customer concern. This time, because every four or five years, the hardware tends to get too slow and then lack of the additional performance or function. The customers are starting to do some evaluation, but they are not, like last time, more rushed to buy upgrade. This time, they probably may take some time. Also the Security Fabric approach, they all like it. They're also starting to evaluate whether the network part can work in with other part of our infrastructure. That's where probably a sales cycle takes a little bit longer. Not like last time that the news drove some of the decision, but this time they are pretty careful to evaluate and see what's the true benefit.

Definitely the hardware, just like any other networking gear or server, after a few years, they need to be upgraded.

Gray Powell
Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Understood. Okay. Thank you.

Ken Xie
Founder, Chairman, and CEO, Fortinet

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Walter Pritchard of Citi. Your line is now open.

Walter Pritchard
Analyst, Citi

Hi, thanks. Just a question on Q2 margins. It looks like you are guiding them down year-over-year relative to, if I look at it, ex ASC 606. I'm just wondering if we think about where the additional spending is going, and I guess maybe longer term, where you think you have the most leverage between sales and marketing and R&D on driving top line growth by spending.

Keith Jensen
CFO, Fortinet

Yeah. I don't know that we think we're guiding down sequentially on margins from-

Walter Pritchard
Analyst, Citi

I'm sorry, just year-over-year, it looks like the margins are lower this year than the guidance is for lower margins in Q2 than they were last year, if I adjust for ASC 606.

Keith Jensen
CFO, Fortinet

Yeah, a lot of things were happening in last year's number, right? If you look at Q1 to Q2 OpEx by itself, the total OpEx last year was down $4 million from Q1 to Q2. I've got the headwind coming in of FX as impact of the quarter as well. Looking at a quarter where we went up last year 5.5 points from Q1 to Q2 and trying to match that again this quarter is a little rough, right? Looking more to the sequential margin is probably more applicable as we try to get to a smoother glide path.

Walter Pritchard
Analyst, Citi

Just longer term on where you see the most ability to accelerate the top line through investing. Is it on the product side or is it on the sales and marketing side?

Ken Xie
Founder, Chairman, and CEO, Fortinet

The sales marketing, we started to add capacity in the last couple quarter. If you look at Q2 last year, the sales high capacity actually is down compared to Q1. That's actually a limit of potential growth. In the last two, three quarter, we started hiring the high current hiring rate. We see starting normalize now. On the other side, we also starting improving the productivity and try to improving both on the top line and the bottom line.

Walter Pritchard
Analyst, Citi

Okay. Thank you.

Ken Xie
Founder, Chairman, and CEO, Fortinet

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Just as a reminder, we ask that you please limit yourself to one question. Our next question comes from Gregg Moskowitz of Cowen and Company. Your line is now open.

Gregg Moskowitz
Analyst, Cowen and Company

Thank you. Keith, I'll add my congratulations on a well-deserved promotion. Actually, I have a couple of very quick ones. For you, Keith, wondering if you're still factoring in a slightly longer average duration in 2018, or if that's changed in one direction or another. Then just for Ken, realize that it's still somewhat early, but what are you hearing from customers in regards to the threat intelligence service that you've announced? Thanks.

Keith Jensen
CFO, Fortinet

Hey, Gregg, it's Keith. Thanks for that comment. I think we've modeled out a small uptick in term throughout the year. I'd probably pull back just a little bit from that. Probably, feeling we've had good conversations about term internally, like the results that we've seen recently in our numbers. All the right people are focused on it. I wouldn't say it's a big shift, but I'm certainly not extending the term, let's put it that way, in the models.

Ken Xie
Founder, Chairman, and CEO, Fortinet

I think threat intelligence always is a big value added to our customer because we have the biggest deployment globally and help us collect a lot of valuable information. Also we have one of the biggest team and the best team in the industry. Also working with some other partner in the CTA Cyber Threat Alliance, which also cooperate and sharing some intelligence information. We feel this is pretty valuable, good intelligence information service. A lot of customer service provider can benefit, but it's still in the very early stage. We try to see what's the best way to share with some of the partner and the customer.

Gregg Moskowitz
Analyst, Cowen and Company

Thank you.

Ken Xie
Founder, Chairman, and CEO, Fortinet

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Brad Zelnick of Credit Suisse. Your line is now open.

Brad Zelnick
Analyst, Credit Suisse

Thanks very much for taking my question. Ken, I think it's fair to say there's a lot of conversation, if not even debate amongst investors trying to appreciate the impacts of cloud and the opportunities, hearing triple digit growth both in BYOL and on-demand and cloud, very, very compelling. I was particularly intrigued to hear you speak about the seven-figure large retail deal that you took down in the quarter. I was hoping perhaps you could just provide a little bit more color as an example. I'm assuming a transaction that large is an existing customer, and if you can just perhaps talk a little bit about the architecture, the use case in cloud, what it is that they're moving to cloud, and then ultimately, what is their total spend with you today versus might have would have been in the past.

I think that would be helpful to us.

Keith Jensen
CFO, Fortinet

Hey, Brad, this is Keith. I'm just going to jump in front of Ken a little bit on this. The first point is that's a new logo for us. That's not an existing customer.

Brad Zelnick
Analyst, Credit Suisse

Wow.

Keith Jensen
CFO, Fortinet

We're very excited about that. We did some economics on the back of the envelope of what it would have been if it had been an appliance sale. It's actually bigger as a software deal than it is as a hardware deal. I'll hand that over back to Ken.

Ken Xie
Founder, Chairman, and CEO, Fortinet

Like I said, they also consider this a part of the whole infrastructure approach. We have a very strong offering in the cloud environment also, and especially the very broad. Like I mentioned, we have the most broad cloud offering, not just network security, but also cover all different application from the sandboxing, the email, the web, the management, and all the analysis. That makes us the strongest player in the cloud space. Also matched well in the fabric approach. We're the only vendor can offer this infrastructure fabric approach in the cloud environment. That's also driven the winning of some of the key customer.

Brad Zelnick
Analyst, Credit Suisse

Thanks very much. If I could, just a very quick housekeeping question for Keith. On duration, I heard the answer to Gregg's question about the full year. Can you remind us even just a year ago in Q1, I don't think I have it in my model, was that 23 months on billings duration a year ago?

Keith Jensen
CFO, Fortinet

I think sequentially, the duration was down one month, year-over-year it was up one month.

Brad Zelnick
Analyst, Credit Suisse

Great. Thank you so much.

Ken Xie
Founder, Chairman, and CEO, Fortinet

Yeah, that's probably making the product revenue a few percent lower if it's the same length.

Keith Jensen
CFO, Fortinet

Yeah.

Brad Zelnick
Analyst, Credit Suisse

Thanks again.

Ken Xie
Founder, Chairman, and CEO, Fortinet

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Rob Owens of KeyBank. Your line is now open.

Rob Owens
Analyst, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Great, thanks for taking my question. I want to touch on something you said earlier with regard to the change in rev rec from sell through to sell in. Is that the balance of the delta in product, and is that persistent throughout this year? Not to get into the accounting side of it, but I'm curious what drives that change effectively.

Keith Jensen
CFO, Fortinet

The rule is certainly consistent throughout the year, but we don't typically keep a lot of inventory in the channel. You can go back and check the Ks and the Qs. We have a mid-single digit number of weeks that we like to keep in the channel of inventory. That's certainly not a large number. What you saw in the first quarter was really just bringing the U.S. up to where the international distributors have been. To the extent that the U.S. has continued growth throughout 2018, there would likely be some uplift in that. I don't see us making significant changes in how much inventory we keep in the channel at the moment.

Rob Owens
Analyst, KeyBanc Capital Markets

You're talking growth in partners, or you're talking growth in sell through when you mentioned growth in the U.S.?

Keith Jensen
CFO, Fortinet

I mean, shipments and revenue growth, I'm not quite sure I follow the question.

Rob Owens
Analyst, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Well, if you now recognize revenue on sell-in growth and partners is going to afford you more opportunity to sell into a broader base. I guess I'm trying to understand the velocity side of the equation more so.

Keith Jensen
CFO, Fortinet

We sell to distributors who then sell on to resellers, and we have a fairly short list of distributors in the U.S. to sell into.

Rob Owens
Analyst, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Okay, great. Thanks.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Andrew Nowinski of Piper Jaffray. Your line is now open.

Andrew Nowinski
Analyst, Piper Jaffray

Great. Thank you. Just wanted to ask a quick question on the competitive landscape. It looks like your product revenue and subscription revenue growth clearly outpaced what Check Point reported this quarter. I was wondering if you could give us any color on your competitive win rates versus Check Point, and then same thing versus maybe the other enterprise vendors, Palo Alto and Cisco. Thanks.

Ken Xie
Founder, Chairman, and CEO, Fortinet

I think our advantage over any other competitor is the first on the network security side, we are the only one build our own ASIC chip. That's from the day one we start company, even come from my previous company, is this philosophy actually helping driven the performance, additional functionality. You can see some other bigger company doing the GPU, TPU also follow the similar path now. It's a huge benefit. We're keeping gaining share no matter which competitor we feel we're more comfortable to compete with the network then. We also offer much broader approach. The most of all this support also built internally, whether from the endpoint, from the management, from the Wi-Fi access, from the web email. All these are also helping drive the, we call the infrastructure fabric approach.

From day one they build together, working together, integrate together, automate together, so none of competitor can compete on this broad and automate integrated approach. That's where we keeping gaining from both on the network side and also we call the fabric infrastructure side. Yeah, I cannot comment on particular competitor, but I do see we're starting to grow faster. We could be gaining share. With additional sales and marketing capacity that we started building in the last couple quarter, we feel more confident of keeping gaining share.

Andrew Nowinski
Analyst, Piper Jaffray

Okay, thanks Ken. Keep up the good work.

Ken Xie
Founder, Chairman, and CEO, Fortinet

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Jonathan Ho of Baird. Your line is now open.

Jonathan Ho
Analyst, William Blair

Okay, great. Thank you. I wanted to ask on verticals, they look pretty consistent, against FY 2017 with the exception of EDU, which was pretty light year-over-year. We heard the same sort of thing from CDW earlier this week. Keith, is that something we should expect to see continue through this year?

Keith Jensen
CFO, Fortinet

I don't think there's anything to call out. I mean, the large deal we had in Q1 of 2017 was in EDU, so maybe that's skewing the numbers a little bit. I wouldn't say there's a vertical that has me concerned like that.

Jonathan Ho
Analyst, William Blair

Ken, as a quick follow-up, any customer conversation perspective coming out of RSA that was different this year versus previous years?

Ken Xie
Founder, Chairman, and CEO, Fortinet

RSA is starting to get a lot of noise now, I have to say. It's not particular, but we do see the customer like the fabric approach, and which helping defend all this infrastructure from, I mean, multiple layer defense on the infrastructure side. Also they are very excited about the new high-end we launched, even still in the early ramp-up stage. We do see a lot of potential will come from both the high-end and also the fabric approach.

Jonathan Ho
Analyst, William Blair

Okay. Congrats. Thanks, guys.

Ken Xie
Founder, Chairman, and CEO, Fortinet

Thank you.

Keith Jensen
CFO, Fortinet

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Michael Turits of Raymond James. Your line is now open.

Michael Turits
Analyst, Raymond James

Hey, guys. Michael Turits, thanks. Keith, congratulations on the appointment. Question for you. Thanks for the guide on CapEx this year of $85 million-$100 million. Can you give us a sense for what that trajectory might be in the next couple of years as you get through the headquarters build? Also maybe you could help us in terms of the trajectory from last year going forward on cash taxes, so we can just try to get our cash flow right.

Keith Jensen
CFO, Fortinet

Yeah, the cash taxes in reverse order has not changed from the number that I think we had out before, which is about $44 million. I don't know that we've talked about quarterly cash taxes. I could offer that if you took that 40-

Michael Turits
Analyst, Raymond James

No, just full year is fine.

Keith Jensen
CFO, Fortinet

Okay. Then we don't guide on free cash flow. We don't guide long term on free cash flow. I could offer that the new building will probably be about 175,000 sq ft. It's going on our existing land that we already own. We would like to move in by the end of 2019, that's probably enough data that you could probably model how that might roll through.

Michael Turits
Analyst, Raymond James

Okay. Thanks very much, Keith.

Keith Jensen
CFO, Fortinet

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Ken Talanian of Evercore ISI. Your line is now open.

Ken Talanian
Analyst, Evercore ISI

Hi. Thanks for taking the question. I was wondering if you could discuss where your pipeline of both service provider and enterprise deals stand today relative to last quarter.

Keith Jensen
CFO, Fortinet

I don't know that we would go to that level of granularity. I would say that we feel very good about the uptick in the pipeline. There's a lot of people focused on it, doing a lot of good things, and we're seeing results there. Carrier specifically, you got two different models. You have EMEA and you have the U.S. We see indications in the U.S. that they may be moving a little bit more away from some of their maintenance mode of projects to some new projects. I think that's very early on. There's a bit of a pattern in terms of how carrier comes in over the last several years. It has a lot of year-end activity. Q2, not so much.

Ken Xie
Founder, Chairman, and CEO, Fortinet

Yeah, also with the additional investment we made in the marketing, in the sales capacity, that's also helping driving the pipeline, the awareness. I think that's all helping to accelerate the growth.

Ken Talanian
Analyst, Evercore ISI

Great. Thank you very much.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Patrick Colville of Arete Research. Your line is now open.

Patrick Colville
Analyst, Arete Research

Thank you very much for taking my question. Can you just help explain how the BYO, bring your own license works? Also, how the economics work for you guys. Someone brings their own license, how that flows through. Thank you so much.

Keith Jensen
CFO, Fortinet

I think the simple response is they would buy the license from us, and then they would take it to the cloud service provider.

Patrick Colville
Analyst, Arete Research

Okay, no change and it's just one for one.

Keith Jensen
CFO, Fortinet

Right.

Patrick Colville
Analyst, Arete Research

That's measured on throughput.

Keith Jensen
CFO, Fortinet

Measured on throughput.

Ken Xie
Founder, Chairman, and CEO, Fortinet

Yeah, that depend on how different application and where they deployed. Sometime, like when you put something in the cloud, you also need to access that application. It may increase the need for secure access of that. It's really difficult. It's case by case, vertical by vertical, for how this may impact or maybe increase the current business there.

Patrick Colville
Analyst, Arete Research

Got it. Thank you so much. Keep up the good work.

Ken Xie
Founder, Chairman, and CEO, Fortinet

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Peter Salkowski for closing remarks.

Peter Salkowski
VP of Investor Relations, Fortinet

Thank you, Takia. Again, thanks everybody for joining the call. We will be at the JPMorgan conference with Ken and Keith on May 16th. Look forward to seeing a bunch of investors there. Thank you very much for the call. Again, as a reminder, we're not having a second call today. If you have any questions, please feel free to follow up with me. Have a good day. Take care.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for your participation in today's conference. This concludes the program. You may now disconnect. Everyone, have a great day.