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Earnings Call: Q1 2020

May 5, 2020

Speaker 1

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by, and welcome to the Fortinet First Quarter Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants' lines are in a listen only mode. After the speakers' presentation, there will be a question and answer Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today. Thank you, Peter Salkowski, Vice President, Investor Relations.

Please go ahead, sir.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Michelle. Good afternoon, everyone. This is Peter Salkowski, Vice President of Investor Relations at Fortinet. I'm pleased to welcome everyone to our call to discuss Fortinet's financial results for the Q1 of 2020. Speakers on today's call are Ken Xie, Fortinet's Founder, Chairman and CEO and Keith Jensen, our Chief Financial Officer.

This is a live call that will be available for replay via webcast on our Investor Relations website. Ken will begin our call today by providing a high level perspective on our business. Keith will then review our financial and operating results for the Q1, provide some additional details regarding our Q1 performance and some insights into how April performed and provide our guidance for the Q2 of 2020 before opening the call for questions. During the Q and A session, we ask that you please keep your Before we begin, I'd like to remind everyone that on today's call, we will be making forward looking statements and these forward looking statements are subject to risks and uncertainties, which could cause actual results to differ materially from those projected. Please refer to our SEC filings, in particular, the risk factors in our most recent Form 10 ks and Form 10 Q for more information.

All forward looking statements reflect our opinions only as of the date of this presentation, and we undertake no obligation and specifically disclaim any obligation to update forward looking statements. Also, all references to financial metrics that we make on today's call are non GAAP unless stated otherwise. Our GAAP results and GAAP to non GAAP reconciliations is located in our earnings press release and in the presentation that accompanies today's remarks, both of which are on our Investor Relations website. Lastly, all references to growth are on a year over year basis unless noted otherwise. I would like to now turn the call over to Ken.

Speaker 3

Thank you. Thank you, Peter, and thank you to everyone for joining today's call to review our Q1 2020 results. I would like to thank our employees, customers, partners, suppliers worldwide for their commitment to manage our response to the COVID-nineteen pandemic. We are very pleased with our strong first quarter performance. Billions increased 21% to RMB668 1,000,000 driven by solid execution and growth across all 3 major regions.

Revenue increased 22 percent to $577,000,000 The solid performance of our core firewall, security fabric, SD WAN and work from home solution result in an 18% increase in product revenue and a 24% increase in service revenue. Shipment of FortiGate unit increased 30% in the Q1, driven by our home secure VPN and secure SD WAN product built with our ASIC powered appliance. In addition, demand for a broad integrated automated security platform, especially the FortiClient, FortiAuthenticator and Forti Token was very strong. Our ability to directly manage our supply chain and shipping logistics allowed us to quickly adjust to the current dynamic environment. Today, Fortinet released the FortiGate 4200F, an other milestone in our ability to deliver the industry highest performance and the most cost efficient security solution on the market.

Powered by the new MP7, the 4200F is engineered to meet the scale and performance demand of today's enterprise and service provider companies. With time executing performance of our competitors, this ability to scale teleworker solution will be a key competitive advantage for Fortinet as enterprise looks for cost efficient way to support a large remote workforce. During the quarter, we released the FortiOS 6.4 with over 350 new features, including new automation, scalability, performance and AI capability, providing full protection across entire digital infrastructure. Included in the FortiOS 6.4 are several enhancements to our secure SD WAN offerings. Fortinet is one of the fastest growing SD WAN providers and the only major player in this market with the internally developed offering that provides security and SD WAN networking in a single solution.

We believe we're continuing to gain SD WAN market share in 2020. Fortinet is an important strategic partner, especially as company looks to efficiently deploy their security budget. Our industry validated work from home and secure SD WAN offering along with our ISP U. S. FortiGate, security fabric platform and hybrid cloud offering provide the best security with the most cost efficient solution for company across their entire digital infrastructure.

I would now like to hand the call over to Keith for a closer look at our Q1 performance and our guidance.

Speaker 4

Thank you, Ken. Let me first note, I would like to join Ken in wholeheartedly thanking our employees and their families and our customers, partners and suppliers for their outstanding support in managing our response to the COVID-nineteen pandemic. With that in mind, let's start the Q1 review with revenue. Total revenue of $577,000,000 was up 22%. The Fabric and Cloud segment revenue growth was over 24% and FortiGate Network Security revenue growth was 21%.

Both our Fabric and FortiGate Network Security segments growth continue to benefit from our secure SD WAN solutions. The strong Q1 revenue growth once again illustrates the benefit of our diversification across geographies, customer segments and industry verticals. The momentum our business has experienced is the result of our strategic internal investments made to broaden our product offerings, penetrate adjacent security markets, expand our global sales force and invest in our channel partners. Product revenue grew 18% to $192,000,000 benefiting from strong demand for our FortiGate appliances, secure SD WAN offering, integrated fabric platform appliance and software solutions as well as our embedded and standalone work from home security solutions. Our growth rates and industry reports suggest we continue to take market share in both the firewall and SD WAN markets, markets where we have contributed leadership and innovation.

Moving to service revenue. Service revenue grew 24 percent to $385,000,000 representing 67% of total revenue. Over 90% of service revenue was from deferred revenue at the beginning of the quarter and continues to provide an increased level of revenue predictability. FortiGuard security subscription revenue increased 25 percent to $211,000,000 FortiCare technical support and other service revenue increased 23% to $173,000,000 The mix shift from 8x5 to our higher priced 20 fourseven support was 6 points and 20 fourseven support now represents just over 60% of this mix. Let's shift to billings.

Total billings increased 21 percent to $668,000,000 FortiGate Network Security billings increased 21% accounted for 75% of total billings. Fabric and cloud billings combined increased 32%, driven by our secure access and our work from home related offerings including 40 token, 40 authenticator and 40 client. Once again, the diversification of our business model by industry vertical was on display in the Q1, with our top 5 verticals continuing to account for about 2 thirds of our total billings. Service providers and MSSPs, which we believe serve a large portion of the SMB market, topped all verticals with 19% of total billings, representing its highest percent of total billings in 5 quarters. Financial Services had a very strong quarter with billings growth of over 40% and represented 14% of total billings.

At the end of the Q1, total deferred revenue increased 26 percent to $2,200,000,000 Short term deferred revenue increased 24% to $1,200,000,000 Looking at deals by dollar size, for deals over $250,000 $500,000 the billing value increased 22% 20%, respectively. The dollar value of deals over $1,000,000 increased 27%, illustrating our continued ability to move up market into the Enterprise segment. Moving back to the income statement. As shown on slide 4, gross margin improved 150 basis points to 78.7%. Product gross margin improved 300 basis points to 61.4%.

Product gross margin benefited from over 40% growth in software products and lower indirect Services gross margin increased 30 basis points to 87.4%. Operating margin for the Q1 increased 190 basis points to 22.3%, benefiting from the improvement in gross margin and lower employee travel expenses related to the shift towards work from home. During the quarter, we entered into a 7 year mutual covenant not to sue agreement with a competitor related to our patent portfolio and returned for a $50,000,000 cash payment to Fortinet. We recognized a gain a GAAP gain of $36,800,000 as a credit to operating expenses and will recognize the remainder over the term of the agreement. We have excluded the $50,000,000 cash received from our free cash flow and the $36,800,000 gain from our non GAAP margins and other results.

Total headcount ended the quarter at 7,448, an increase of 24%, driven by increased investments we made to leverage the positive momentum in our business, while seeing improving attrition rates over the last few quarters. We do not anticipate any COVID-nineteen related layoffs for the foreseeable future. Given our strong operating income performance, net income for the Q1 was $104,400,000 Our earnings per diluted share increased $0.14 to $0.60 per diluted share. On a GAAP basis, we reported net income of $104,000,000 or $0.60 per diluted share. Excluding the patent related gain noted above, GAAP earnings per share would have been $0.44 or an increase of 29%.

Moving to the statement of cash flow summarized on Slide 78. Free cash flow increased 27 percent to $242,000,000 Due to the shelter in place orders, construction was halted on the new campus building in mid March and resumed this week. Capital expenditures for the Q1 were $28,000,000 including $20,000,000 related to construction and other real estate activity. We estimate capital expenditures for the 2nd quarter to between $40,000,000 $50,000,000 and for all of 2020 to between $200,000,000 $220,000,000 We expect full year cash taxes to be approximately $40,000,000 and our full year non GAAP tax rate to be 22%. In the Q1, we utilized a portion of our cash and investments to repurchase approximately 10,000,000 shares of our common stock for an aggregate purchase price of approximately $900,000,000 At the end of the Q1, the remaining share buyback authorization was $693,000,000 In light of the buyback activity, together with a lower interest rate environment, let me offer 2 modeling insights.

1st, the full year share count should be 10,000,000 shares lower than previously guided. 2nd, interest income will likely be insignificant for the remainder of 2020. Before moving to guidance, we want to offer some thoughts in 2 areas related to COVID-nineteen, including steps that we have taken to contribute and certain observations about our business in Q1 and early Q2. 1st, in response to the pandemic, we've taken a number of steps, including 1, substantially increasing our employee charitable match program for COVID-nineteen related donations to a total of $2,000,000 And secondly, expanding our free to the public network security expert program or what we call NSE. Last week, we further expanded the free NSE program from the first three levels to all eight levels.

NSE is a self paced online security training and certification program. By making this program free and more advanced, we hope to narrow the shortage of security skilled workers around the world and position people to emerge from COVID-nineteen with new and very marketable skills. In the 1st week, we had over 50,000 registrations from over 5,000 different organizations. I'd now like to share some observations about our business in Q1 and early Q2. We don't anticipate that these observations will continue in future quarters.

However, in light of COVID-nineteen, we thought they might be helpful and informative. Looking at linearity, monthly linearity for the Q1 was consistent with prior quarters at around 50% through the 1st 2 months. While March linearity was typical, we did see an elevated level of buying during the middle 2 weeks of the month. As for April linearity, it was slightly better than our 1st month performance for any second quarter in the last 3 years. Turning to contract length and payment terms.

In Q1, the average contract length remained flat at 25 months year over year. And average contractual payment terms increased to less than 15%. In terms of supply chain concerns, our product backlog was in line with historical averages and our suppliers delivered over 90% of their commitment to us. To offer some context on the puts and takes in Q1 billings, 3 of our Fabric Cup platform products, Forti Token, Forti Authenticator and FortiClient benefited from their increased value in securing organizations' employees in the shift towards work from home. Combined billings for these three products were about $10,000,000 above expectations.

In April, we saw these billings again significantly outperform expectations. Looking at channel inventory, the total balance was flat quarter over quarter and up slightly year over year, which may relate to a small level of early buying by our customers. Regarding SD WAN solutions, secure SD WAN billings for the quarter were a high single digit percentage of total billings. April billings continued this trend and the Q2 pipeline for Secure SD WAN is strong. And then looking to customer segments, our G2000 billings increased 25%, SMB billings as a percentage of total billings increased slightly.

Renewal rates remained within the guardrails that we provided at the Analyst Day. And as a percentage of total billings, the worldwide retail segment remains one of our top 5 verticals. And as a percentage of total billings, remained unchanged year over year. As our performance indicates, we did not see a material impact due to COVID-nineteen for the Q1 and the Q2 is starting well. That said, there is a lot of uncertainty about future economic conditions.

Finally, I'd like to review our outlook for the Q2 summarized on Slide 9, which is subject to the disclaimers regarding forward looking information that Peter provided at the beginning of the call. For the Q2, we expect billings in the range of 700,000,000 dollars to $725,000,000 revenue in the range of $590,000,000 to 605,000,000 dollars non GAAP gross margin of 77.5 percent to 78.5 percent non GAAP operating margin of 23% to 24% non GAAP earnings per share of $0.64 to $0.66 which assumes a share count of between 165 $167,000,000 We expect a non GAAP tax rate of 22%. For 2020, due to the increased uncertainty associated with the economic impact from COVID-nineteen, we believe the prudent thing to do is to withdraw our previously issued full year guidance. Along with Ken, I would like to thank our partners, customers and the Fortinet team for all their support and hard work during these difficult and unique times. Lastly, I also would like to invite all of you to listen to the management keynote presentations at our virtual Accelerate being held on May 12.

You can contact Peter for registration link. And with that, I'll hand the call back over to Peter.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Keith. Michelle, we're ready to do the Q and A. If you can open up the lines for questions, please.

Speaker 1

And your first question comes from Sterling Auty from JPMorgan.

Speaker 5

Yes, thanks. Hi, guys. You mentioned that the June quarter, so April is off to a fast start. Wondering, are you seeing the same products in high demand in April that you did in March? And do you think that that demand actually can continue perhaps into the back half or is this a temporary lift that you're seeing?

Speaker 3

I think, yes, pretty similar, like we mentioned. We do see the fabric continue, especially work from home related, some on lower end and also like FortiClient, Authenticator, Forti Token still very, very strong. But overall, I think it's the same. And also the new product we introduced both in last quarter, the 1800F and also introduced the 4200F see a very strong interest. Yes, I think so far we see pretty similar demand.

Speaker 4

Yes. Certainly, I'd probably frame a response to add on to what Ken said by saying, obviously, we gave some insights in terms of what we were seeing in April. And as part of the guidance setting process, you would obviously normally look at what's your month 1 activity, what does your pipeline look for month 2 and what does your pipeline look for look like in month 3. So I think you can assume that we look at those factors as part of setting the guidance for the Q2.

Speaker 3

Yes. Also a lot of feedback is ready because all product have good reputation. It's more cost efficient like the new one we announced and also the last few quarters. So have average VPN performance 10 times faster or had more capability compared to any other competitor. So we're using the secure competitive region.

So that's actually a lot of company, a lot of enterprise, They usually have work from home population probably less than 10%. Now they jumped over 90%. So that's a huge demand for both headquarter, for office and also for some other work from home solution. So that's where VPNs are very, very critical for all these enterprise. So we see a lot of need for our customer require our solution compared to the other competitors.

Speaker 5

That makes sense. And then the one follow-up would be, you mentioned 19% of revenue from the MSSP channel. I think investors are always worried about that SMB exposure. Can you give us a sense of what you saw in terms of renewal rates in March April as well as just the demand pipeline from that segment?

Speaker 3

Yes, that's actually the very interesting area. We also kind of a little bit surprised. Our overall SMB has a percentage of our business actually increased 1% to 2% and that's where they grow faster than average. So we kind of did some research. Probably there's 2, 3 reasons.

The first, whether the SMB or the work from home using network security as that endpoint still very, very low percentage, probably on average about only about like 5% or even low single digit. So it's a very small percentage SMB or work from home has a network security solution. So that's where they may take this kind of opportunity to starting to kind of implement more from SMB solution. The second one, we also believe whether because SD WAN or some other solution combined with both SD WAN and the Wi Fi can also save a lot of cost. So more cost efficient.

So that's where probably also the chance for customer to also using the new product. And the third one, we do believe, if you look in last few quarter, we refreshed at the low end first without the F model. So from like 80 F, the first almost 3 quarters ago, then the 60 F and the 40 F we announced. It's all helping driving the SMB or work from home solution. So maybe these 2, 3 factors contribute SMB actually even grow faster than average.

Speaker 5

Got it. Thank you, guys.

Speaker 6

Thank you.

Speaker 1

And your next question comes from the line of Fatima Boolani from UBS.

Speaker 7

Thank you for taking the questions. Chen, maybe to start with you. Just on the SD WAN momentum you're seeing, I think there's some confusion around how SD WAN conflicts or is accretive to your branch office business. I'm wondering if you can just give us a sense of how SD WAN is accretive to the overall branch footprint that you have. And as you think about the next 12 to 24 months as branch office architectures do change, how do you think that would impact the lower end SKUs you have in your portfolio?

And then I have a follow-up for Keith.

Speaker 3

Yes. And like I said in the script, so we are the only company internally develop SD WAN and also build with security from very beginning. So it's a very cost efficient and also combine multiple functions together. So that's the customer see a lot of value. And at the same time, like I said, somehow SMB or some other work from home still low percentage of NANDAS may also help in because overall SD WAN is still like relatively small market and grow very, very fast.

So we already become the top 3 and also grow the fastest one. And then also it's a little bit different offer than the other. Other probably only SD WAN function, but we do compliance security with a lot of other function inside our offering and at the same time performance much better because our own ASIC has a huge computing power advantage, handle multiple function at the same time. I think overall, this all contribute both SMB and also like the FortiGate unit shipment grow 30%. That's also the highest one we see in the last few years.

That's also probably whether contribute to SD WAN or work from home or SMB. It's pretty interesting and we still continue to see that in April. And so we're still closely watching and also try to address any requirement from the customer to react quickly both in the SV1 and also for the SMB Wolfram Home solution. Like I said, because we develop internally all the solution product, we can react much quicker compared to other competitor that is found a way to integrate, they have to like have different IC1 than the security or the other thing. I think that does give us quite some advantage compared to other competitors.

Speaker 7

That's super helpful. And Keith, just for you, appreciate that color on the shipment volume and shipment trends in the quarter and in April. I'm wondering if you can characterize for us how much of that is maybe pulled forward activity, if you can contextualize that with the pipeline for the rest of the year? Just wanted to get a sense of if there was actually rush buying or any accelerated buying activity? And that's it for me.

Thank you.

Speaker 4

Yes. I think any quarter you've got puts and takes and that's kind of why we titled that section that way. There are some things that come in that maybe weren't in your commit to begin with that you weren't expecting and there are some things that push out. And I don't think that Q1 was really any different in any other way. And I think in terms of how we're looking at it in that regard, the purpose of providing some commentary about what we saw in April would seem to be contradictory to a thought that there was a bunch of pull forward from Q2 into Q1 because April we're happy with

Speaker 1

April.

Speaker 7

Thank you.

Speaker 1

And your next question comes from the line of Brian Essex with Goldman Sachs.

Speaker 4

Congratulations

Speaker 8

on the results. It's pretty challenging economic times. I guess the first question maybe for Ken. If I heard that right, you had some pretty strong financial services billings growth. Can you maybe comment on growth by vertical, where you saw maybe better strength in the quarter versus maybe some weakness?

And it also seemed as though you actually did pretty well, surprising at the mid and entry level range of your product spectrum. Any change anticipated for the rest of the year in terms of product release driven activity versus maybe what might be more near term work from home driven expansion type sales?

Speaker 9

Yes. First, the vertical probably key things I can help add

Speaker 3

is that we still see like a service provider starting pretty strong and probably the fast growing in the last few quarters, even few years. And also the finance service, some government sector are also pretty strong. Retail a little bit weak, but it's just a little bit. It's not as yes, I think it's still among the top 5. Enterprise is probably still pretty okay, like especially the big enterprise, we see grow faster than the overall growth, like a growth 25% for the top 2,000 enterprise.

I think going forward, we do see the new MP7 provide a lot of interest for big enterprise, especially go from home. They found out suddenly the workload, especially the VPN, need almost 10x compared to before the pandemic and a lot of competitive product cannot handle it anymore. So we get a lot of requests from this enterprise IT starting to see the advantage of our solution because we accelerate all this VPN using ASIC, which on average time, I expect a performance. So that's actually before maybe they not need that much VPN, but now they sound SEO. That's a huge advantage and which competitors cannot handle.

So we see very strong demand and that's where the product we released today, the 40 to 100F and also last quarter 1800F and also the previous mid to high end, we also started to see pretty strong growth now.

Speaker 4

Yes. I think Ken did a very good job of recapping the verticals. Just to kind of put a little more color on it, I think the government vertical, which for us is largely international, state and local, performed very well. We'd really need to call it out in the script, but it was including the top 3 MSSPs. We talked about financial services.

We talked about and Ken indicated retail was flattish year over year in terms of his percentage of billings. Tech had a pretty good quarter as well, but not enough to get it in the top 5.

Speaker 10

Got it. That's helpful. Maybe if I

Speaker 8

can hit one more quick one on SD WAN. I had a lot of questions this quarter from investors just concerned about potential branch office closures. Did you see any change in the deployment within the branch office environment due to closures? Or maybe was it accelerated because of the closures and maybe better access to networks as a result? Maybe just a little quick color there would be helpful.

Speaker 3

Yes. I think we have a deployment we call it a zero touch deployment and probably some IT, they leverage this opportunity to upgrade some infrastructure, whether the branch office or it's we don't see slowdown actually. We even see since salary a little bit.

Speaker 8

Super helpful. Thank you so much.

Speaker 3

Thank you.

Speaker 1

And your next question comes from the line of Brad Zelnick with Credit Suisse.

Speaker 11

Excellent. Thank you so much and congrats to you all for the strong momentum and being there for all your constituents during these crazy times. Ken, I've got another SD WAN question for you. 1 of your competitors recently made an acquisition in the SD WAN space with plans to leverage their technology in a thin branch architecture.

Speaker 12

Can you maybe just help us

Speaker 11

by comparing and contrasting your approach to SD WAN and whether one solution is inherently more cost effective or has more efficacy? Thanks.

Speaker 3

Yes. We already spent like quite a long time develop SD WAN like 5 to 10 years and so from our beginning combined that with the security together. So can use the security to decide how SD WAN, how this WAN function can be routed, right? So that's a very different than all the other major competitor, whether in the networking side or in the security side. They have to come from acquisition, which they have a lot of limitation, whether on the performance or combined networking function, security function together.

So that's the huge advantage we continue to enjoy. At the same time, all this function is also ASIC accelerated, which can easily give a 10x performance boost and also much lower ownership. So that's how we see the benefits get more and more. And on the other side, SEVAN can be part of the total solution, whether the cloud infrastructure or the other part, combined security and SE WAN together definitely have huge advantage whether easy to deploy or easy to manage a single box solution. And at the same time, we also balance among how the cloud and how the edge computing working together, where some function need to be processed in the edge, some function need to be processed in the cloud.

That's also working well with a hybrid cloud approach. And also combined headquarter to branch office, work from home, we found out that also the fabric keeping grow faster and even a lot of product within the fabric suddenly double, triple than the previous year, previous quarter like we mentioned about whether FortiClient or FortiAuthentication or FortiTalk and it's all related to the work from home product. So there is a huge increase. And so the fabric approach also we benefit a lot from

Speaker 2

Thank you, Ken. That makes a

Speaker 11

lot of sense. And if I can just follow-up with you, Keith, how are you thinking about your hiring plans in light of the limited visibility you have? It actually seems like you're off to a pretty strong start in Q1.

Speaker 4

Yes. I think the hiring has been we talked about this in the context over the last couple of quarters in the quarter that within this balanced framework of profitability and growth that we're executing against, we thought coming into 2020 that we were going to tilt towards growth. And we think we saw that with some of the investment we made towards the end of last year and we continue those hiring investments throughout the Q1 of this year. I think this will start to lap some of those hiring higher hiring percentages or growth in Q3 or Q4. And so that probably at that point in time, we'll start moving back in line with what we've seen historically.

Speaker 10

Awesome. Thanks so much guys.

Speaker 1

And your next question comes from the line of Shaul Eyal from Oppenheimer.

Speaker 6

Thank you. Good afternoon, guys. Congrats on the ongoing strong performance. You had a very solid European performance over the past few quarters. But I think specifically in the Q1, some other companies have been reporting mixed use, mixed outlook with respect to the European performance.

What are you doing different? Or is it also driven by your strong partner relations in that region?

Speaker 4

Yes. I think the I probably look at this way. I think that when we say Europe, it also includes our emerging part of the business as well, emerging meaning everything from Southern Africa through the Middle East and into Eastern Europe. I think that that latter component has been strong now for many quarters in a row. And yes, I do think that one, great execution by that team and I think also they do a very good job of how they in some ways are forced to go to market with that.

I think if you look at the quarter overall, we probably saw, as you would kind of expect with the pandemic, the U. S. And the Americas probably outperformed Europe, Continental Europe a little bit more during the quarter and that's kind of consistent with what we saw with the pandemic.

Speaker 6

Got it. Got it. And Keith, while we have gross margins, also probably highest in recent quarters, what should be what should we be expecting going forward? And what's been driving that little bit of an uptick that we have seen with gross margins, specifically for the company, which is slightly more appliance driven?

Speaker 4

Yes. I think that the guidance that we provided for gross margin is good for the quarter. I feel comfortable with that. I do think that we're benefiting as our cost structure changed a little bit with some of our newer products. And I think that we're partnering perhaps a little bit more effectively with our channel partners over the last couple of years than we had in the past.

Speaker 6

Good job. Thank you.

Speaker 1

And your next question comes from the line of Melissa Franchi from Morgan Stanley.

Speaker 13

Thank you very much for taking my question. I want to go back to the discussion on the branch business. I think investors are trying to understand what the trajectory looks like for the branch just given some exposure to economically sensitive verticals like retail. So I know that it's probably pretty early, but as you look into your pipeline, are you anticipating any change in terms of renewal rates for the branch? And I know that April is shaping up to be pretty well, but what should we expect for the second half of the year?

Speaker 4

Yes. So we didn't guide in the second half of the year and we don't give all specifics on renewal rates, but I think I made a comment that what we saw in the Q1 was that renewal rates were within that band that we provided at the Analyst Day. And I really don't see that changing based upon what I'm seeing. I think it's probably helpful to kind of consume the context of our diversification. And I kind of made reference to it just a moment ago when I talked about the U.

S. Performed very strongly and Europe was probably hit by the pandemic a little bit harder. You're talking about a company now that's less than 30% of its businesses in the U. S. And there may be a lot of focus on retail headlines in the U.

S, but it's probably passing over perhaps the recovery that's already started in Europe and the impact from Latin America and other geographies. Okay. That's very on

Speaker 1

some

Speaker 13

on some of your underlying assumptions for the Q2 guide. I know April seems to be pretty healthy so far, but are you assuming that continues through the rest of the quarter or are you expecting a more challenging close? Thank you.

Speaker 4

Yes, I think we feel very good about the business, about the products, about the strategy that we're executing, about the sales team's ability to execute, about our ability to support our customers and the ability to support our partners. And with that in mind, I'm looking at the pipeline and looking at the slicing and the dicing of the pipeline. As I kind of made reference a moment ago, I'm looking at different assumptions or different geographies based upon the status of the pandemic in those geographies. We're looking at deal sizes, larger deals have typically more risk than smaller deals do as part of our assessment. We look at whether or not it's a new logo or an existing customer or a renewal.

So all those things go into the mix in terms of setting the guidance for the quarter.

Speaker 7

Thank you.

Speaker 1

And your next question comes from the line of Saket Kalia from Barclays.

Speaker 4

Hey, guys.

Speaker 12

Thanks for taking my questions here. Hey, Ken, maybe first for you. A lot of questions on the branch and understandably so, but maybe even just thinking about the enterprise. How do you think your enterprise customers are thinking about their VPN strategies longer term? And how do you sort of expect Fortinet to play into that?

Speaker 3

I think this pandemic probably changing some of the working pattern. Like I said before, there's probably less than 10% people work remotely as it's on VPN. Now due to lockdown probably we see over 90% maybe even if we go back reopen whatever maybe still 30%, 50% and it all depends on the vertical. So that's making this remote access work from home starting to get more and more important and especially the network you need to be combined with endpoint. Endpoint sometimes you can address certain device, but if you have the network side you can actually secure the whole branch or the whole home and whatever the whole house there.

And even different like with Wi Fi, without other like different member of the family can kind of manage all these different bandwidth. So that's actually we see it's enterprise headquarter of even office VP and C and have a pretty strong demand there. And some other like authenticator products, some other product in the fabric, we also see pretty good growth, actually even double, triple some of these different components of fabric.

Speaker 12

Got it. That's very helpful. Maybe as my follow-up for you, Keith. Did or maybe can you comment on any trends in the FortiGuard bundles as a result of increased work from home? I know you talked about some of the trends in FortiCare with that nice uptick in customers opting for 20 fourseven.

But curious if you've seen any material shifts in the makeup of FortiGuard subscription with the different bundles that you have as a result of work from home?

Speaker 4

No, no. Not really.

Speaker 12

Okay, got it. Very helpful. Thanks guys.

Speaker 1

And your next question comes from the line of Rob Owens with Piper Sandler. And Rob, your line is open.

Speaker 4

Hi, can you hear me?

Speaker 2

We can.

Speaker 5

Okay. Sorry about that. You mentioned in your prepared remarks your ability to directly manage supply chain and shipping logistics. And I'm curious as you look forward towards the Q2 and should you still see strong surge in demand around the FortiGate solutions, any supply chain concerns or are those all relatively put to bed at this time?

Speaker 4

I think we I think I feel good about it, but the head of manufacturing has some work to do.

Speaker 3

Yes. So far, we don't see any initial. We see a pretty good yes, they also would recover pretty quick. Not only the supply chain, but also we manage our own shipment, shipping logistics and also our own supporting. So we're not outsourcing any shipment or customer supporting.

That's also result is the facility, result the team, we can quickly justify and can kind of make it more like redundant or whatever resistant to any kind of downside to adopt quickly.

Speaker 4

Yes. I think we can still have a spot or 2 components that may be lined up in Japan or the Philippines or Malaysia or something like that on an individual component. But keep in mind, part of our business model is looking at our inventory turns, which have been less than 3 recently. So really that means we're carrying about 4 months of inventory at any point in time. And even at that level, we weren't at 100% execution, even though the backlog was consistent with other quarters.

And so probably we're looking at our inventory level and thinking maybe as we go through the next quarter or 2, to move that up just ever so slightly as we start transitioning to further guard against this possible risk for pandemic.

Speaker 5

Appreciate the color. And then just briefly, if I may, I know there's been a lot of discussions around work from home branch office, but where do you guys come down as you're talking to customers on kind of that cloud Sassy arguments? And strategically, as people are considering work from home, what's kind of been the response of customers as they're looking at your solution versus others?

Speaker 3

Like I said a few years ago, we feel the SaaS is the best model is already working with a service provider. Like today, this morning, we also announced a partnership with NTT West offer all these like what they're working from kind of go to service provider solution for both SD WAN and also security. And even ourselves, we do have the technology and but we do believe this cloud approach need to be working with Edge and on premise together. So we have the structure or the it's all in the testing and also working with a lot of service provider right now, we call the 40 SASE approach. It's a little bit different than the traditional SASE approach, which they forward all the traffic, whether from endpoint to your device, from home and also in the office to the cloud.

So we believe the better approach for the SaaS here we call Forti SaaS is really for the endpoint of some work from home, your mobile device maybe makes sense to forward to the cloud to process, which we have all this solution. But when in the office, you forward office traffic to the cloud, it's not quite makes sense. It's not very secure because when you forward it's not quite encrypted. And also it's increased a lot of network traffic and much high latency, much slow. And most of these SaaS companies quite interesting, they won't leverage their like whether open source or freeware to do the security.

So when you do the testing of this security, the security region of research or the intelligence not as good as some other dedicated security company, because we have a few 100 people just doing all the intelligent research and has to do this for 20 years. So that's where from better security, better networking latency and better like cost wise. Some offer has probably few using on-site premise more like nevertheless you have this on port server. Optical output solution to process a lot of traffic locally will be much better than forward all this office traffic to the cloud. So that's where we have this a 40 SaaS, but it's a little bit different.

And then also, we're working with service providers to make it a profit model compared to a lot of other SaaS companies in there to invest a lot of part of our data center, which making them keeping losing money. Eventually, all these service providers, they do have their own kind of own infrastructure. So leverage their current infrastructure, leverage what they can process on-site in office will be much more secure and cost effective way to solve this issue, right, whether you need to management or manage all these mobile security solution. So that's where we have a little bit different approach, more leverage our service provider and also leverage both on the cloud and also on the premise on the edge solutions. So I think and that's getting very good feedback from all these both in the enterprise side, in the service provider, also in the customer.

So we feel that will be the right approach.

Speaker 4

Thanks for the color.

Speaker 3

Thank you.

Speaker 1

And your next question comes from the line of Michael Turits from Raymond James.

Speaker 9

Thank you. You commented that in the quarter you got strong demand for VPN authentication, token endpoint all clearly work from home driven and you are seeing those same trends so far into April. The question is, do you have some feel for where we are in terms of customers getting up to the level of capacity they need in terms of that product? Is that a 2Q finish or does it extend further?

Speaker 3

Like I said, Smarter the S&P and work from home is still very low percentage, probably U. S. Maybe around 5%, some other region kind of even lower than that. So it's still huge potential, so whether SMB or work or home. And then when you try to access to home, to the office, suddenly you need a huge increase, almost 10x increase on the high quarter on whatever the office VPN need to support all these home worker, every remote worker.

And then at the same time, you also need on a secure solution in the other side, whether from home or the device level authenticator. So that's where we see quite strong demand in there. Keith, I don't know if you

Speaker 9

have anything to add to that, but my follow-up question for you is about payment terms. I think you commented that duration was about 25 months on invoicing. Just remind us where it was and if you have any concern about that shortening. And you talked about 15% extension in payment terms. Again, any concern about that in terms of your need to help out customers and the impact of either one of those on cash flow?

Speaker 4

Look, I think the headline would be that we have a strong balance sheet and we're certainly going to leverage our balance sheet, where there's opportunities to gain market share and to support our customers and our channel partners. There's no real doubt about that in my mind. I do think that we don't guide to free cash flow, but there's probably some adjustment that you want to make to your free cash flow model for the Q2, because I do think that Firdapse is in a position to help others and I expect us to use our balance sheet to do that on a case by case basis.

Speaker 3

Okay. Thanks, guys.

Speaker 1

And your next question comes from the line of Walter Pritchard from Citi.

Speaker 14

Thanks. Two questions. One, I guess for Ken, just around the low end of the product line, looked pretty strong. I'm wondering how strong of a trend it was that you saw actual work from home customers taking low end boxes and that being part of what you shift, understanding that FortiClient was strong and the token authenticator products and so forth. Just wondering how much that contributed on the appliance side?

Speaker 3

I think they're both pretty strong. The 40 comp probably even double, triple, but come from relatively small base and then the appliance, the low end, whether SMB or some high end work from home, also pretty strong. Like if you see the unit shipment increased 30%, that's mostly contributing from the low end because the high and middle range will not impact that much of the unit shipment. I think the trend still, like I said, is still in the we still got a lot of enterprise and also they see the current whether their competitors' product cannot handle suddenly the huge increase of the VPN or some other kind of work from home solution. So we get a lot of interest.

And so IT guy also super busy, try to further do the deployment or whatever. And at the same time, we also try to help them supporting them and we have this called a 0 touch deployment, help them to deploy whether the branch or some other high quality solution quickly to meet all this strong demand. I don't see the trend slowed down yet. And but even after the pandemic, we do see the percentage of people starting work from home probably will be higher, maybe like a few times higher compared to before the pandemic.

Speaker 4

Yes, I think the Got it. I'll just add to that. I think the model, so to speak, that you'll be more likely to see is that when people start working from home, it's not that they're going home and taking a firewall with them. I think they're installing 40 clients on their laptop. So that's probably really not going to drive a low end business by itself.

On the other side of the corporate IT organization, now they're trying to they need greater throughput and greater capacity because of things like VPN and authentication and so forth. And so you may see the corporate buyers actually moving up, if you will, in terms of what they're buying. But again, it's not firewalls at home. I think the other aspect of it is we have a new product called the 60F, which has which was a real beast in the quarter, in terms of the volumes that it produced. And in our favor, it has a little bit different cost structure than its predecessor.

So it's giving us a little bit lift on margins.

Speaker 3

Yes. I think it's also very interesting, right? Yes, the interesting really the 40 time probably can load on your laptop or your mobile, but that only secure one device. So when you work from home, you also probably competing with your kids for the payment from the bandwidth and then and also some other things you need to manage together, some other appliance could be like how this remote monitor device all the things. That's where the FortiGate come in as hardware handy, hardware solution.

So they can manage different device from different load of memories, the secure WiFi together and even some I'm not sure how much user go to SD WAN, but it's still more but it's really the product offers so much function, they can have the whole house being managed much better, 6 year, much better compared to just one device. So that's making it work for home is a much better security and also can kind of yes, it's much better than just one device.

Speaker 14

And then Keith, just on the guidance, understanding we're seeing lots of companies pull the guidance because of the unprecedented times. I'm just wondering, if you look at your forecast and think about 90 days from now, what sort of things are you looking for in your forecasting to be able to get back to giving annual guidance? Specifically, what sort of things are unstable there or sort of too wide of a range to be able to call at this point that you'll be watching?

Speaker 4

Yes. I think like everybody else, I think our concerns or our interests are, is there going to be a second wave? What's the severity of the second wave is going to be? What geography is it going to hit? And when is it going to hit in those geographies?

And really, ultimately, what economy are you trying to provide guidance into? And that's just the unknown right now in the second half of the year.

Speaker 14

Okay. Thank you. Understandable.

Speaker 1

And your next question comes from Tal Liani from Bank of America.

Speaker 2

Thanks. Hey, guys. This is Dan Bartis on for Tal. I was just wondering if you can share some thoughts on overall security budgets and how you think they might trend this year. Curious if you're hearing from any customers that they're looking to already cut back maybe in 2Q or second half?

And then just a quick follow-up for Keith probably. Can you just help us think about how much of your SD WAN business is driven by MSPs and MSSPs? Thanks.

Speaker 3

I think from the my past experience in 2000, 2008, security budget hold pretty well during this recession, but these kinds are different. That's where we also try to be very careful for any guidance. And so far, we see in the Q1, also in April, we see pretty good and no impact, no any material impact. And if since now got worse, we feel pretty comfortable. But like he said, it's these times are different.

We try to be very careful.

Speaker 4

Yes. I think in terms of the SD WAN and the MSSPs, I would characterize that as being a market that we're very interested in because it's a very large market. Obviously, the MSSPs have already come through with an incumbent that we're trying to displace. But that opportunity without quantifying it, if you will, is something that I would say we're very focused on internally.

Speaker 12

Great. Thanks guys.

Speaker 1

And your next question comes from the line of Amit Daryani from Evercore.

Speaker 10

Thanks a lot for taking my question, guys. I have a question and a follow-up as well. I guess, first off, you guys have seen fairly impressive share gains over the last couple of years. I'm wondering how do you think these share gains stack up over the next few years as we go through a recession effectively? Do you think share gains can actually accelerate given the TCO proposition that you guys have with enterprises?

Or is that unlikely to happen given no one probably wants to replace legacy gear at this point?

Speaker 3

We probably continue to leverage the strong technology product, whether leverage we call the SPU, Security Processing Unit ASIC, which gave a huge performance advantage and is a VPN function or quite a broad function. And also the fabric approach, which is ready 2,030 product, almost internal develop, working integrate, automate together, which none of competitor have this advantage. And at the same time, we're continue to invest. We continue to hire, but also we found out it's more easy to hire some high quality people. And we'll continue to and the other part also we found, we probably have the biggest training program in this whole cybersecurity industry.

And we started to open up all this for free and not only we're working with a few 100 university to train out a student, but also a lot of big enterprise, a lot of service provider, a lot of our work on home user, also I didn't see is a huge need for the training. We actually we found that we start up any new attrition every few second. So every few second, we get a new restriction signed up for the training and it's a huge benefit because in this security space, at least last year, there's 3,500,000 shortage of trained people to help you handle the security. So that's also the opportunity we found out to train the people and then we can record them also quickly and help us solve the whole industry problem. So we see it as huge opportunity for us based on the investment we made before and also where we continue to working very hard with all the team and all the partner, all the customer try to make it whole even and more secure.

Speaker 4

Yes. I think there's 3 things that Ken will be making a point to make a reference of and I'll probably summarize them this way. I think these 3 things are working in our favor at the moment. One is our fabric product set has continued to expand and has continued to mature and become even more competitive, if you will, in terms of features and functions with some of the best of breed. You are seeing more and more customers, at least those that I'm talking to and prospects, much more interested now in a platform approach that enables automation and integration and moving away from a best of breed solution for every aspect of the security platform.

And then the third aspect of it, we are probably moving into an environment where cost effectiveness is a premium in your go to market messaging. By that I mean, if you can argue that successfully and produce that and deliver that lower cost, more cost effective option, you can be successful in this market.

Speaker 10

That's really helpful guys. And then Keith, a quick one for you. You talked about average contractual terms pushing out about 15%. What's the impact of that? What's the best way for us to read that statement?

Speaker 4

It's payment terms, not the length of the contract, right? And I mentioned that it was slightly less than 15% increase, if you will. And I would probably think you just want to take a little bit of second looking at what your cash collection assumptions are in your free cash flow model for Q2.

Speaker 10

Got it. Thank you.

Speaker 1

I would now like to turn the conference back over to Peter Salkowski, Vice President, Investor Relations.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Michelle. I'd like to thank everyone for joining today's call and extend an invitation to listen to the management keynote presentation at the Americas Virtual Accelerate event on May 12. Please contact me for the registration link. Also Fortinet, we'll be attending the following virtual investor conferences during the Q2, including the JPMorgan also on May 12th, the Bank of America Conference on June 4th and the William Blair Conference on June 9th. Presentations for these events will be webcast and links to these webcasts are available and will be available on our Investor Relations website.

If you have any follow-up questions, please feel free to contact me. Have a great rest of your day. Thank you very much. Have a good day.

Speaker 1

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.

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