Good morning, and welcome to the General Dynamics Q2 2022 earnings call. My name is Brica, and I will be your event specialist today. During the presentation, you will have the opportunity to ask a question by pressing star followed by one on your telephone keypads. Please note you may ask one question and one follow-up at this time. I now have the pleasure of handing the call over to our host, Howard Rubel, Vice President of Investor Relations. Howard, please go ahead.
Thank you, operator, and good morning, everyone. Welcome to the General Dynamics Q2 2022 conference call. Any forward-looking statements made today represent our estimates regarding the company's outlook. These estimates are subject to some risks and uncertainties. Additional information regarding these factors is contained in the company's 10-K, 10-Q, and 8-K filings. We will also refer to certain non-GAAP financial measures. For additional disclosures about these non-GAAP measures, including reconciliations to comparable GAAP measures, please see the slides that accompany this webcast, which are available on the investor relations page of our website, investorrelations.gd.com. With that completed, I would like to turn the call over to our Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Jason Aiken.
Thank you, Howard. Good morning, everyone, and thanks for being with us. Before we get started, I want to let you all know that our Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Phebe Novakovic, isn't able to join us this morning. She recently came down with COVID, but not to worry. She's on the mend and doing well, but she's asked me to cover today's call. With me is Bill Moss, our Vice President and Corporate Controller, who will cover some of the financial particulars that I would normally address. With that, let's get into the results. Earlier this morning, we reported earnings of $2.75 per diluted share on revenue of $9.2 billion, operating earnings of $978 million, earnings before taxes of $923 million, and net income of $766 million.
Revenue was essentially flat against the Q2 last year, but operating earnings were up $19 million. Earnings before taxes were up $42 million, and net earnings were up $29 million. Earnings per share were up $0.14, a 5.4% increase. To be a little more granular, we enjoyed revenue increases at Aerospace and Marine Systems, offset by declines at Combat Systems and Technologies. We also had margin improvement in three of the four segments, which led to higher operating earnings and earnings before taxes against the year-ago quarter. From a slightly different perspective, we beat consensus by $0.03 per share on somewhat lower revenue, but somewhat higher operating margin than anticipated by the sell side. This led to the modest earnings beat. On a year-to-date basis, revenue, for all practical purposes, was even with last year's H1 .
Similarly, operating earnings were essentially flat, but earnings before taxes were up $46 million, net earnings were up $51 million, and EPS was up $0.25, almost 5%. In the quarter, free cash flow of $435 million was 57% of net income. Cash flow from operating activities was 86% of net income. This was pretty good in light of the powerful Q1 cash. To that point, year-to-date free cash flow of $2.3 billion was 151% of net earnings. In summary, we had a solid quarter from an earnings perspective, and the year-to-date results give us a solid start to the year. Let me move right into some color around the performance of the business segments, have Bill add color around cash, backlog, taxes, and deployment of cash, and then I'll provide updated guidance.
I'll try to keep my remarks brief to leave ample opportunity for questions. First, Aerospace. Aerospace had revenue of $1.9 billion, operating earnings of $238 million, and a 12.7% operating margin. Revenue was $245 million more than the year-ago quarter, or 15.1%, largely as a result of higher service center sales at Gulfstream and higher service volume, particularly FBOs at Jet Aviation. Operating earnings are up $43 million or 22.1% on a 70 basis point improvement in margins. Increased sales volume coupled with improved margins leads to very good operating leverage. We captured improved revenue on only 22 deliveries. We didn't deliver 4 G500 and 600s that were scheduled to deliver in the quarter.
They've been deferred at customer request to the Q3 , awaiting removal of the FAA wind directive. However, nine G500 and G600s in fact were delivered to customers in the quarter. We delivered nine of the 13 that were planned in the quarter. From an order perspective, we did very well once again. In dollar terms, Aerospace had a book-to-bill of two-to-one. Gulfstream Aircraft alone had a book-to-bill of 2.7-to-1, even stronger if expressed in unit terms. As previously discussed, sales activity truly accelerated in the middle of February 2021 and continued on to the Q2 of this year. The pipeline and sales activity remain strong as we enter this quarter. The Farnborough Airshow was a good one for us. From a new product perspective, the G500 and G600 continue to perform well.
Margins are improving on a consistent basis, and quality is superb. We're making good progress in the flight test of the software update for landing in high winds and expect removal of the FAA directive in mid-September. You may recall that last quarter we advised you of a risk of a three- to- six month delay for certification of the G700 to Q2 2023 as a result of the time-consuming work on model-based software validation. As a result of the flight sciences engineering resources we needed to redeploy onto the work related to the G500 and G600 FAA limitation on landings in high wind conditions, the risk to the G700 schedule has become a reality. As we've previously advised, this will not adversely impact our financial plan for 2022 and 2023. We feel confident that the G800 will follow the G700 by about six months.
Looking forward, we've planned 123 deliveries for the year, and we fully expect to do just that. Turning to defense, Combat Systems had revenue of $1.7 billion, down 12.3% over the year-ago quarter. Revenue was impacted by Ajax at both Land Systems and ELS, bomb bodies at OTS, and some program mix. Operating earnings of $245 million were off against last year's quarter by 7.9% with a 70 basis point improvement in margins. Operating margin was a strong 14.7%. On a sequential basis, revenue was very similar to the Q1 , but operating earnings were up 7.9%, or $18 million on a 110 basis point improvement in operating margin.
For the H1 , Combat Systems revenue was down 10.2%, and operating earnings were down only 7.5% on a 40 basis point improvement in margins. In June, Land Systems was awarded the Mobile Protected Firepower contract, the first all-new combat vehicle for the Army in decades. The initial award for LRIP 1 was $410 million for 25 vehicles. The program of record for LRIP is $1.1 billion for 95 vehicles through 2026. The entire program requirement is 500 vehicles for more than $5 billion. The program fills a critical gap in the Army's infantry brigade combat force, and we expect to move out swiftly on the program.
The quarter was very good for Combat Systems from an orders perspective, with a 1.4-to-1 book-to-bill, leading to an increase in total backlog and estimated potential contract value. Demand for our products, particularly our combat vehicles, remains strong, with Europe leading the way. International order opportunities for Abrams are particularly strong. This was an impressive operating performance once again by the Combat Systems Group in a constrained revenue environment. At Marine Systems, revenue of $2.65 billion was up $115 million over the year-ago quarter. It was flat sequentially, but up year-to-date. In the quarter, growth was led by Columbia, T-AO, and repair work volume. For the H1 , revenue was up $283 million, or 5.6%. This is very impressive continued growth.
Operating earnings were $211 million in the quarter, essentially flat with the year ago quarter as a result of a 30 basis point reduction in margin. The margin compression was the result of the impact on Electric Boat of additional schedule delays on the Virginia program from the supply chain as it struggles with recovering from COVID. EB is working closely with the Navy and suppliers, including embedding operating and engineering personnel on-site to restore the necessary Virginia program cadence. Nonetheless, Electric Boat's performance remains strong, and while still early in the Columbia first ship construction contract, the program remains on cost and schedule. Total backlog of almost $42 billion remains robust and is by far the largest of our operating groups. Lastly, technologies.
The segment had revenue of $3 billion in the quarter, down $158 million from the year ago quarter, or 5%. Two-thirds of the decline was attributed to Mission Systems, largely related to their continuing struggle with a shortage of chips, which continues to plague their ability to deliver certain products. On the other hand, operating earnings of $304 million were down only $4 million or 1.3% on a 40 basis point improvement in operating margin to 10.1%. EBITDA margin was an impressive 14.1%, including state and local taxes, which are a 50 basis point drag on that result. Operating performance at GDIT was particularly strong, 140 basis points better than the year ago quarter. These are industry-leading margin figures.
Technologies had a good order activity in the quarter with book-to-bill of one-to-one and good order prospects on the horizon. Mission Systems had nice orders for many of their product offerings, especially those impacted by the chip shortage. The IT pipeline remains healthy in most of our federal IT lines of business as the government continues to modernize and upgrade its mission support systems. GDIT has the opportunity to submit $35 billion in opportunities this year, including $17 billion in the Q3 , most of which represents new work. That concludes my remarks with respect to a solid quarter and H1 . I'll now turn the call over to Bill for further remarks, and then I'll provide our updated guidance.
Thank you, Jason, and good morning. Starting with cash performance in the quarter, from an operating cash flow perspective, we generated over $650 million, which, following our strong Q1 performance, brings us to over $2.6 billion for the first six months of the year. This was achieved once again on the strength of the Gulfstream order book and additional collections on our large international combat vehicle contract, which continues to receive payments as scheduled according to the contract restructure that occurred in 2020. Including capital expenditures, our free cash flow was $435 million for the quarter and $2.3 billion year to date, yielding a conversion rate of 151% year to date.
The strong performance so far reinforces our outlook for the year of free cash flow conversion at or above 100% of net income. Of course, as a reminder, that outlook assumes current law with respect to the tax treatment of research and development expenditures. If the Congress acts to defer or reverse the current capitalization requirement, we would expect free cash flow for the year at or above 110% of net income. Looking at capital deployment, capital expenditures were $224 million in the quarter or 2.4% of sales. That's up from last year, consistent with our expectation to be around 2.5% of sales for the year. For the first six months, we're closer to 2% of sales, but 2.5% remains our full year target.
We also paid $349 million in dividends and spent approximately $800 million on the repurchase of 3.6 million shares. That brings year-to-date repurchases to 4.9 million shares for just shy of $1.1 billion. The net result at the end of the Q2 was a cash balance of $2.2 billion and a net debt position of $9.3 billion, down more than $2 billion from this time last year. As a result, net interest expense in the quarter was $95 million, down from $109 million in the Q2 of 2021. That brings the interest expense for the H1 of the year to $193 million, down from $232 million for the same period in 2021.
At this point, we continue to expect our interest expense for the year to be approximately $380 million, including the assumed repayment of $1 billion of notes that mature in the Q4 . The tax rate in the quarter was 17%, bringing the rate for the H1 to 15.6%. No change to our outlook of 16% for the full year. Of course, that implies a rate in the mid-16% range for the H2 of the year to arrive at that outcome. To shape that for you, we'd expect the rate to be somewhat lower in the Q3 and higher in the fourth. Order activity and backlog were once again a strong story in the Q2 with a 1.1-to-one book-to-bill for the company as a whole.
As Jason mentioned, order activity in aerospace led the way with a 2x book-to-bill, which is the fifth consecutive quarter the book-to-bill for the group has been 1.6x or higher. As a result, aerospace backlog is up over $5 billion in the past year, an increase of almost 40%. During the quarter, we finalized negotiations on the restructure of the last of our arrangements with a fractional aircraft operator, which resulted in a roughly $300 million reduction in the aerospace backlog and a $900 million reduction in aircraft options. This action essentially clears our backlog of any exposure to fractional customers and has no impact on our production and revenue forecasts for 2022 and beyond.
On the defense side, Combat Systems and Technologies also had solid quarters with a 1.4x and a 1x book-to-bill, respectively. The increase in the Combat Systems backlog was particularly notable given a headwind from foreign exchange rate fluctuations of over $200 million in the quarter and $300 million year to date. Incidentally, the FX fluctuations also negatively impacted Combat's revenue by $65 million in the H1 of the year as the euro fell to near parity with the dollar. We finished the quarter with a total backlog of $87.6 billion, while total potential contract value, including options and IDIQ contracts, was $126 billion. That concludes my remarks. I'll turn it back over to Jason to give you an update on our guidance for 2022 and wrap-up remarks.
Thanks, Bill. Let me do my best to give you an updated forecast. The figures I'm about to give you are all compared to our January forecast, which I won't repeat. There is, however, a chart with respect to this that will be posted on our website, which should be helpful. In Aerospace, we expect an additional $200 million of revenue with an operating margin around 12.9%, which is 10 basis points higher than we previously forecast. This will result in additional operating earnings. There could be some upside here if we can deliver out a few more planes in the year. With respect to the defense businesses, Combat Systems should be on the low end of our revenue range with an improvement of up to 50 basis points of operating margin.
Total revenue of around $7.1 billion and operating margin around 15%. There's no change to Marine Systems revenue, but 30 basis points lower margin. Annual revenue of $10.8 billion with an operating margin around 8.3% for the reasons I've previously described to you. Technologies revenue will be in the middle of the forecast revenue range at the same operating margin, driven by GDIT with 3.5% year-over-year growth. For the group, we expect annual revenue of around $12.9 billion with an operating margin around 10%. On a company-wide basis, we see annual revenue at the higher end of our initial guidance and an overall operating margin around 10.8%, which is unchanged. This rolls up to EPS at the high end of our previous guidance range.
In short, we expect only modest deviation from our initial guidance. That concludes my remarks, and we'll be pleased to take your questions.
Thank you, Jason. As a reminder, we ask participants to ask one question and one follow-up so that everyone has a chance to participate. Operator, could you please remind participants how to enter the queue?
Thank you. If you would like to ask a question, please press star followed by one on your telephone keypad. If you change your mind, please press star two. We have our first question from Robert Stallard of Vertical Research. Please go ahead when you're ready, Robert.
Thanks so much, and good morning.
Morning, Rob.
Jason, I'll kick it off with one for you. The big question we've been getting from folks is what the impact could be on business jet and the Aerospace division from a slowdown in the global economy. I was wondering if you could give us some perspective on how this could play out and how Aerospace is differently positioned from where it was, say, in 2007, 2008.
Yeah. I think the most important point here, Rob, is the robust nature of the demand we've seen up to this point, the order activity that's resulted in and the extended backlog that provides us, not to mention, frankly, and Bill spoke to this a little bit in terms of some of the cleanup in the quarter, but the durability of the backlog that continues to just increase the quality of that order book, as we move forward. Obviously, we can't predict when and what any type of a slowdown will look like. There's a lot of talk out in the market about interest rates, inflation, the stock market, recession potential, and so on.
To be completely frank with you, we have not yet seen any impact of that, in terms of our order pipeline and the resulting order activity that we've seen. There just continues to be a very strong customer demand. We're continuing to see that, as we embark here into the Q3 . I think bottom line between the size of the backlog, the ongoing order activity, the durability of that backlog, which at this point is in excess of two and a half times our annual sales, for the group, you know, notwithstanding the possibility of economic slowdown or similar conditions, we remain very confident and steadfast in our outlook for the next couple of years, that we've provided, in terms of 2023, 2024, and beyond.
Okay. Thanks for that. As a follow-up, you mentioned the Ajax program in the Combat Systems division. Could you give us an update of what the situation is there, and how it's likely to pan out from here? Thank you.
Sure. The program is proceeding. The vehicle tests are continuing, and they continue to confirm, frankly, the vehicle performance that we've seen to date. With respect to some of the things that the customer's been focused on, when it comes to vibration in the vehicle, some concerns that emerged in some of the early customer trials have been addressed at this point. We are working right now with the customer on securing appropriate communications gear. I think the key here at this point is that this is gonna really be all about how soon approvals can move through the system, as we undergo this series of deliberate tests that take time, as would be the case on any new platform development program.
Frankly, this is not inconsistent with experience that we would expect on any new platform development. Like I said, we continue to work with the customer, and they continue to assure us of their commitment to the program as well as of their need for this, transformational capability. It's an ongoing path forward, continuing to make progress, and, you know, we expect to see ourselves to the other side of this, testing and trials period soon enough and onward and upward with the program.
Thank you. We now have a question on the line from Seth Seifman of J.P. Morgan. Please go ahead when you're ready.
Hey. Thanks very much, and good morning.
Morning, Seth.
Morning. You know, just to start off, I'm sure you've gotten this question a bunch of times, but you know, with regard to moving forward on G500 and G600 and the landing restriction, it sounds like you're still on track to have that lifted this quarter. Just any color you can give on, you know, what gives you the confidence there, given, you know, that the Gulfstream, I think, has done all its work, but you know, you're dependent on the FAA to, you know, to do their work.
No, you kinda summed it up nicely there, Seth. The fact is we have the software fix for this issue completed. It's been developed, it has been tested, it has been flown, and so we have great confidence in the efficacy of that software fix. We are currently working with the FAA, Gulfstream and the FAA working concurrently toward the initiative to get this airworthiness directive resolved. The program plan for that is to complete by or before mid-September. To your point, we are in part dependent on the resources of the FAA to make that happen. They have been very good about this. They are committing the resources that we think are necessary and the teams are working together.
Right now everything seems to be right on track for resolution of this, by the end of the Q3 .
Great. Thanks. Just as a follow-up still in aerospace, this might be kind of a crude measure, but, you know, just looking at the revenue per aircraft in the quarter, you know, it looks pretty strong. Obviously, you know, we don't necessarily have all the information about, you know, mix and price and stuff like that. Can you tell us what the services growth was to help us hone in on that. You know, you mentioned a fractional settlement. Did that have any impact on the revenue in the quarter or any other backlog mechanics, did those affect the revenue?
Yeah. On the service side, we did see very strong growth in the quarter. That's continuing a trend that we've seen since we've been emerging from the pandemic, both including sort of flight hour ramp up as activity and flight activity picks up around the world, as well as FBO activity at our Jet Aviation business, particularly on the U.S. side. I think we had somewhere in excess of 35% growth year-over-year in the quarter in service activity. It's frankly that service activity that is driving the upside to the revenue and the outlook for the Aerospace group for the year. As I mentioned earlier, we're still expecting our 123 aircraft deliveries for the year.
$200 million of additional revenue for the year is coming from that service side of the business. I know you referenced the cleanup we mentioned to the backlog, but I sort of missed the latter part of your question. Do you mind repeating what you were getting at there? I'm sorry, Seth. I hope he hasn't already dropped off the line. Perhaps you were getting at whether any of the cleanup in the backlog has affected any of the revenue or other aspects of the aerospace outlook. The fact is, no, we're in good shape there.
The cleanup, as I mentioned, or I think as Bill mentioned in the remarks, was related to an ongoing negotiation we had with our really last sizable fractional customer in that backlog. We've come to a settlement with that customer, removed some of the airplanes and expired some of the options there. None of that activity has any impact on the outlook for the business. All forecasts remain intact.
Great. Thank you.
Operator, I don't know if we have our next question on.
We now have our next question from David Strauss of Barclays. Your line is open, David.
Thanks. Good morning.
Morning, David.
Jason, when we were down at Gulfstream back in June, I think, you talked, you know, the Gulfstream talked about being about 70% of the way through the software validation test on the G700. Can you just give us an update exactly where that stands today?
I don't have an exact number on the update of 70%. Obviously, the progress on that software validation has been slowed somewhat by the fact that we've had to divert common resources in terms of those flight sciences engineers over to the fix on the 500 and 600. That, as I mentioned before, is really what's sort of affirming our risk on the slip of the 700 entry into service. There's been some modest progress there, but call it in that 70+% range remains where we are at this point. As soon as we get through that airworthiness directive resolution, we'll get those resources back on that program and moving forward to that updated EIS date.
Okay. As a follow-up, can you update us on, you know, supply chain, you know, any constraints you're kind of seeing on the Gulfstream side of things? I think, when we were down there, it was discussed about some shortages on the engine side. You know, how do you feel about the, you know, the overall supply chain at Gulfstream and your ability to, you know, to hit that 123 delivery number for the full year?
Yeah. As you referenced, you know, supply chain is definitely not to sugarcoat it's an ongoing issue for the industry. It's no surprise or no secret that I think the commercial aerospace industry has had a fragile supply chain even before COVID hit. It's probably no surprise that that's only been exacerbated. I'd say it's a daily battle. That said, I think there's no team that I'd rather have tackle this issue than the Gulfstream team down there. They have people embedded throughout the supply chain, actively managing these issues with our partners to help them meet our commitments to our customers.
I think while there can be, you know, issues from supplier to supplier, and it's an active management, you know, activity that's going on, it's important to consider the impact of any part or subsystem or so on to the overall takt time of the airplane production process and ultimately the delivery schedule. Just because, let's say, a particular part may be, you know, missing its due on dock date doesn't necessarily mean that that's gonna impact overall completion of the airplane or delivery to the customer. Between workarounds that our team has and other efforts to keep the overall aircraft flow moving, we don't see any impact to the delivery outlook that we have for the year. Obviously, these types of activities aren't optimal.
We wanna get this corrected, frankly for the benefit of the entire ecosystem. We continue to have great confidence in the team at Gulfstream to get through the challenge, and they'll meet their aircraft delivery forecast for the year.
Thanks very much.
Sure.
Thank you for that. We now have the next question from Ronald Epstein of Bank of America. Please go ahead when you're ready, Ron.
Yeah. Hey, thank you. Good morning, everyone.
Morning. Morning, Ron.
Jason, question for you on, again, kind of maybe going back to the supply chain, but focusing a little bit more on defense.
It seems like at Gulfstream you guys are managing the constraints well. You know, we've heard from some of the engine producers that castings and forgings and things are tight, and you're managing through that. It seems like you've got a lot more flexibility in your commercial business than you do in your defense business. One of the themes that seems to have emerged from this quarter is that because of the way defense contracting's done, we continue to hear shortages of A, B, and C. Is there anything you guys can do about chip shortages, buying inventory ahead, or are you just so constrained by you know, the kind of materials management acquisition rules that you can't do that?
Because it seems like defense is just sort of fundamentally this sort of just-in-time business, but we're in sort of a just-in-case world, if you get the gist of my question?
Yeah, no, it's a great question, Ron, and I'll kind of break that down into two aspects of our business, sort of the short-term side and the long-term side. The piece that we're seeing a bigger issue in on the short-term side, and you referred to the chip shortage, it's really that the Mission Systems piece that we've talked about for some time now. Again, that's because these are quick turn orders. They're product driven. They're dependent on these chips, and you gotta get them out the door. Obviously these are highly engineered, high-end design engineering type products, so to your point, the specifications are quite specific. That said, number one, I think the team is doing a tremendous job trying to develop workarounds. They are out there ordering parts in advance where they can.
It's tough to get your spot in line because this is an issue affecting not just the industry but the broader economy, but they're doing their best they can on that front. They are also working to change designs, modify designs, accept alternate parts where they can, and be as nimble as they can on that front, but that obviously takes some time. I think importantly for that side of the business, this is just a timing issue. We've seen here, if you take, for example, the Q2 and the product that wasn't able to ship at the end of the quarter, we've seen the vast majority of that actually get shipped in the first month of the Q3 . So that is flowing through. It doesn't mean we're out of the woods yet.
I think this is gonna be something that's gonna bug us for the balance of the year and maybe spill over a little into next year. The fact is we've seen some of the strongest order activity from the customer in this area. I think this is just a timing thing. We'll come through it and the order demand is there so that this will continue to, you know, on into the balance of this year and beyond. That sort of on the short-term side of the business. The other big supply chain side that we're seeing, frankly, is a little bit different. It's on, frankly, the longest term leg side of the business, and that's in the shipbuilding side. Really there it's less about parts or material availability.
It's about the availability of labor, the price and availability of skilled labor. We're seeing that really hit the supply chain for us. For us, it's focused primarily on the Virginia-class program. When you think of NASSCO out on the West Coast and frankly the Columbia program at Electric Boat, those are all hitting this in stride. On the Virginia program, the supply chain has stumbled a little bit more. When you think about it, we have been working hard even prior to COVID to ramp up our resources on those programs to support two per year Virginia as well as the addition of Columbia, and we were making pretty good headway on that. COVID hits and you take two steps back instead of...
At least a pause, instead of needing to take two steps forward. When you think about shipbuilding and the nature of that business, you know, a shock like that to the system can hit it quickly, but it just takes time for it to recover. That's what we're seeing on the Virginia program is the supply chain is struggling to catch back up, and sort of hit that cadence that they need to be on. Again, like Gulfstream, like Mission Systems, Electric Boat has got all the resources that we can bring to bear and all the sense of urgency to apply to that supply chain. Once we can get that schedule righted, I think we'll be back on track.
In the meantime, that schedule extension brings cost, and that cost brings an impact to margins, and that's what's, you know, affecting our outlook for that business. That's. I'm trying to give you as complete an answer as I can on the supply chain as it hits the defense side. That's sort of both ends of the spectrum from my perspective.
Yeah, got it. Thanks. Maybe just one quick follow-up on Combat. With all the awards that have been coming in and the activity in Europe, when would you expect that to flow through the business? You know, is that a 2023 kind of thing? When would we expect to see that kind of, at least on the top line?
Yeah, that's a good question. I wanna take a step back and maybe give a little clarity on what we've seen through the H1 of this year and then what that means where we're going. Obviously, in the H1 of the year, we're down notionally a little bit more than you would expect given our full year outlook. I think we're about 10% down year to date. If you do some quick checking, you'll see that what that's really a function of is that last year our revenue per quarter was essentially consistent throughout the year, Q1 , Q2 , Q3 , which is really in contrast to the tried and true annual cycle that we see in Combat Systems.
We're frankly once again seeing this year, which is a sequential ladder, if you will, lowest in the Q1 , rising to the Q4 . That created a little unusual headwind in terms of the year-over-year comparisons. We're still, based on the way the H2 plays out, still expecting to be at the low end of our revenue forecast. What does that imply? That implies about a 3.5% growth in the H2 versus the H2 of last year, and I think that's eminently achievable by that group. Looking beyond that, to your point, there's a tremendous amount of activity in this market. Obviously, as I mentioned before, the MPF award is a big one for us.
That's a whole new additive space in the infantry brigade combat structure there. There's tremendous demand signals internationally, as you mentioned. Obviously, we're working toward the tank opportunity in Poland. There's other international tank opportunities, as I mentioned before. You alluded to sort of demand generally internationally, and everybody has kind of this suspicion that everything going on in Eastern Europe is gonna lead to significant growth for the you know on the defense side. Certainly we are seeing those demand signals. I think the key thing that we all have to keep in mind here is to keep in check our expectations with respect to timing. The demand signals are there. We are having regular dialogue and ongoing conversation with those customers about that interest.
It just takes time for interest to turn into budgets, to turn into appropriations, to turn into contracts, to turn into revenue. I think it's all consistent with our long-term outlook that by 2024 and beyond, we ought to see a nice uptick trajectory in Combat Systems. We're still talking, you know, low- to mid-single-digit growth, but we ought to see an inflection point to growth out in that period. All of that is supportive of this. In the meantime, I just reiterate our emphasis that in the focus and the story for Combat Systems is a margin one. You've seen how well, once again, this group can perform on the margin side and be a really good cyclical no matter what's happening on the top line.
Thank you. The next question comes from Robert Spingarn of Melius Research. Your line is open, Robert.
Hey, good morning.
Morning.
Jason, I just wanted to go back to labor and talk across all, you know, all the businesses. You know, where you stand, where obviously you said shipbuilding's a tough one, so maybe that's the most challenging area. When you look across the businesses, what is the labor and talent acquisition situation?
Yeah, you touched on it, Rob. The shipbuilding side has been the toughest one. You know, we've seen that in Maine. We've seen that all over sort of the New England shipyards, as we've tried to ramp up, and frankly, those are the two shipyards at EB and Bath that we have the most opportunity to ramp up. It's not like a lot of other industries where you're hearing things about remote work and the ability to pull people from all over the country and all over the world. You've got to get shipbuilders in those states and in those regions to do that work. That's what presents the challenge.
The good news is we've, as I mentioned, well before COVID, we had been ramping up and anticipating ramp up, and so we've had a lot of resources put in place, as well as great partnerships at the state and local levels to get the kind of trade schools and apprenticeships and so on to make that happen. I think the resources are in place. We've just got to keep our flow moving through those processes, keep our training capabilities up and running, and we can catch back up with this. It's just gonna take time. Again, that's just sort of the nature of shipbuilding, and it's a challenge that those teams are up to.
When you look on the other end of the spectrum, you know, I think it's all about GDIT, and obviously they are in a hyper-competitive market for hyper-skilled talent. That only gets more competitive all the time. I think the leading positions they have in their markets, the strong culture they have and continue to build with that workforce, and the opportunities that they provide their workforce within the company continue to, I think, put them in a good position to compete and keep and grow that talent. It's. I'm not gonna sugarcoat it, though. It's a war for talent every day.
It's our job to keep up with that and punch above our weight and continue to retain and draw in the kind of talent they need to do that work and as that business grows. Those are kind of the two ends of the spectrum. I think the other area that we monitor it closely is at Gulfstream. Obviously, with the growth they have, you need people to do that. I think not to underestimate the challenge that they have, but I think they've done a really good job of keeping up with it, and I don't see that as being as high a nail an item for Gulfstream in the moment.
It's nothing that we can take our eye off the ball, and they've got to keep at it, but I think they're up to that challenge as well.
Okay. Just as a follow-up, going specifically to Electric Boat and the focus on getting Columbia ramped up and the labor situation you just talked about there, have we seen any work packages move between Electric Boat and Newport News in order to manage volumes and address labor shortages, either for you or for them?
You know, Rob, I hate to give you this answer, but that's the kind of thing I don't think I should probably get into too great a detail. We obviously work very closely with them as our teaming partner on Virginia, as well as our subcontractor on Columbia. It's a three-part conversation between us, Newport, and the Navy to make sure that we're doing everything we can to support that customer and the growth that they need. I think that's the most important message is we're gonna do everything we can to support that customer, and we're working together as a team to do that. Both sides, I think, have a mutuality around that that's very important and very supportive.
Okay, fair enough. Thanks, Jason.
Sure.
Thank you. We now have the next question on the phone lines from Doug Harned of Bernstein. Please go ahead when you're ready.
Good morning. Thank you.
Good morning, Doug.
Good morning. I wanted to see if you could give us a little bit of a picture on the mix of Gulfstream orders. In particular, you know, the G650 has extended longer than I think you all first expected with strong demand. Can you give us a sense of what the mix is and then also how you're looking at G650 production over time?
Yeah, you're absolutely right. The G650 order activity continues to be robust, frankly, beyond even what we, I think perhaps conservatively expected. I think we've said a couple of times now in the past, and it continues to be the case that the announcement of the G700 and the G800 have absolutely, for our market and our customers, clarified where we are with this family of aircraft. It clarifies what the G650 is in terms of an opportunity for those customers. That airplane, I think, continues to have legs to it. To make no mistake about it, the G800 is the replacement for the G650, and as the G800 comes into service, we will work the G650 out.
There may be some modest overlap as we feather in, you know, from one to the other. But I think what this outsized demand on the 650 does is it gives us a lot of optionality. It gives us opportunity if this demand environment continues with respect to our outlooks for 2023 and 2024. We'll have to see how that plays out. It's also giving us the optionality to deal with some of these issues we've talked about with the certification process as the 700 slips. You know, we're not backtracking on our commitments to the delivery units, the revenue, and the earnings forecast that we've given for 2022, 2023, and 2024. Frankly, the 650 demand is helping with that, as well as the demand environment in general.
To that point, you kind of asked about the whole portfolio, and I think there's some question and speculation out there among the community about this airworthiness directive and what that might mean for the G500 and G600. I'd tell you know, again, we delivered the vast majority of the airplanes that we intended to this quarter. We expect that to be resolved by the end of the Q3 . When you look at the order activity in the Q2 , I think the G500 and G600 represented about half the order activity that we had. There's no signs of slowing down there. Our customers understand what this little bump in the road is. Those platforms continue to be very well supported. Across the board, and I didn't even mention the G280.
That continues to have great order demand. I think the mid-cabin space has really picked up in the aftermath of COVID. Really across the board in the portfolio, we see broad-based demand for our airplanes.
Well, and then just as a follow-up, switching over to technologies. I mean, I know there's been, you know, you've had challenges with award protests and, you know, so there have been some difficulties. This is something where we've been looking for growth for a long time. If you look out over the next few years, I mean, how are you thinking about technologies in terms of a growth trajectory? Because we just haven't really seen it yet.
Obviously, this is a conversation we've been in for some time now. I think if you look back, we had low single-digit growth last year. We're expecting modestly better growth this year. As I reiterated earlier, our updated outlook for the year is spot on in the middle of our revenue forecast range we gave back in January. Obviously, we're off to a little bit of a slower start to the year, but I'd say a little bit of a slower start, and that's largely attributable to Mission Systems. I won't reiterate those issues, but we do believe that is a timing issue for us. GDIT is flat for the H1 , but we absolutely have a clear line of sight to growth for them in the H2 .
Look, I mean, what gives us confidence in this outlook? I think you know, the way we look at it is not any one particular win or loss or one program or another. It's really about all of the key, what I think about as leading indicator data or statistics that are around a business that is made up of thousands of contracts across the portfolio. You're talking about order activity, win and capture rates on new as well as recompete business, book-to-bill, backlog, potential contract value, so on and so forth. All of those metrics for us continue to support an outlook for this business of low- to- mid-single- digit growth.
I mean, you look at GDIT, for example. They had awards in the H1 that were valued at about $7 billion. That's significantly higher than the H1 of last year, and the vast majority of that represents new work. Obviously, this can be frustrating, I think, for you all, and sometimes it is for us, given the particularly lumpy aspect of this business when it comes to the protest and delayed award adjudication process. It can come in fits and starts. You know, we remain bullish on this, and we think bottom line, we're talking about a low- to- mid-single-digit % growth outlook.
Frankly, as I think about it, you may have noticed a couple of weeks after the quarter, we had that announcement of the Air Force European support contract, some $900+ million opportunity. You know, if that had happened a couple of weeks earlier, it'd be kind of a completely different conversation around the book-to-bill for the technologies group in the quarter. That's just a, you know, a one-off example. It speaks to the point that while timing can be frustrating and lumpy, and the pipeline can be, you know, a challenge to get through, it doesn't change our long-term outlook for this business.
Thank you. We now have Peter Arment of Baird. Please go ahead when you're ready, Peter.
Yes. Thanks. Good morning, Jason. Hey Jason.
Good morning.
Maybe we could get you just your updated thoughts on, you know, we've seen the markups from defense budget working their way through the Senate and House. You know, how is that, you know, impacting some of your defense business? Obviously, there's been a focus on combat and technology, so kind of returning to growth. Just kind of any color you can provide there, that'd be helpful.
Yeah. I think the two things that I'd point out, it's obviously still very early in that process, but bottom line, as you'd expect, shipbuilding remains extremely well supported. You can see the numbers there. That, I think, is just continues to be supportive of our, you know, an underpinning of our outlook for the ongoing $400 million-$500 million a year growth in the Marine Systems business. All positive there. I think the greater area of maybe anxiety or speculation is around Combat Systems and the Army budgets. We'll see where that goes. This is obviously something that ebbs and flows and has a lot higher beta in terms of an Army budget on an annual basis than on the Navy strategic side.
The fact is, we can't ignore the fact that there's a significant amount of support among the Congress for increasing defense budgets. So, you know, Abrams, Stryker, those continue to be very critical assets in the Army infrastructure, and we think there's continued support for those. While there's, you know, a lot of chatter around, are those gonna decline, and what's gonna happen, let's just see how it plays out. I think we'll have to stay tuned and see.
Okay. Just as a quick follow-up, your thoughts on just any impact if we have a, you know, continuing resolution. Obviously, you guys have managed through a lot of continuing resolutions, so just thoughts on any impact there.
Yeah. I don't see any real high anxiety in the moment. It's obviously something, to your point, that we've learned to work with and work around. It's certainly not desirable by any stretch of the imagination, but it's almost become part of our annual reality. I think until these things get into a six-seven-month-plus type of situation, that's when it really starts to affect our shorter cycle business on the technology side, perhaps in the munition side. But beyond that, we really don't see a significant impact at this point. Again, it's unfortunate, we don't like it, but we learn to try to operate around it.
Thank you. We would now like to have the next question from Sheila Kahyaoglu from Jefferies. Please go ahead when you're ready.
Hi. Good morning, guys. Thank you for the time, Jason and Howard.
Yep, morning.
Morning.
Morning, Sheila.
I wanted to maybe ask a shorter-term question to follow up on Doug's GD Technologies. You know, it was down 3% in the H1 and up 10% growth in the H2 implied with the guidance. GDIT seems to be doing well, like fairly flat. Can you maybe bridge us on Mission and how you think about supply chain getting back to growing in the H2 , timing of funding? Because a lot of the GDIT peers have complained about that. Maybe if you could just bridge us shorter term.
Yeah. You've touched on the key issues, but I think the biggest piece of it is what I mentioned before, is that we're already seeing here in the Q3 our ability to catch back up on some of that delayed product shipment from the Q2 . We really got a bit balled up there toward the end of the Q2 , and that hampered the revenue for the H1 . Look, I don't wanna sugarcoat the challenges. Mission Systems is not out of the woods, so you know, they're gonna fight and scrap their way, but they're seeing their way toward you know, workarounds on that supply chain side, and I have a good deal of confidence that they can get there.
On the GDIT side, it is a frustrating environment in terms of the slow pace of the outlays. Frankly, we've seen that a bit on both the Mission Systems and GDIT sides. But I think, you know, the hill that they have to climb in the H2 is not as high, and I think we've got reasonable line of sight in terms of the work that's in the books, and they just got to go execute on that should get them there in the H2 . They've just got a little bit of go get to get in the H2 . I feel even greater confidence on the GDIT side.
Okay. Thank you. I just wanted to ask a cleanup on Aerospace. You know, when we think about the 123 delivery guide, how much of that includes G700s? Given the raise was on service, how much of the services business is in the backlog?
I don't necessarily get into detailed order or, you know, backlog and ordering cancellations on an aircraft-by-aircraft basis. I apologize. I'm gonna have to punt on that one. On the service side, we typically don't have much in the way of service activity in the backlog. We have a very modest amount in the aerospace unfunded backlog category that is related to longer-term maintenance arrangements that we have with some larger customers. The service activity across the board at Jet Aviation and Gulfstream is really a book-to-bill basis on a quarterly and annual basis. Sort of a one-to-one typically there.
Operator, we will just take one more question.
Thank you. We have the last question from Cai von Rumohr of Cowen. You may proceed with your question.
Yes, thanks so much. Orders at Gulfstream for aircraft, you mentioned about half in the quarter was for the G500, G600. You mentioned that the G650 is doing well. How is the G800? Because, you know, that's been introduced relatively lately. You now have a new competitor in the market that looks like they match you in range with four versus three sections. You know, how is the G800 doing?
You know, the demand for that aircraft is quite solid, Cai. It's doing well every quarter, booking orders. I think, you know, between the fact that the 650 is still taking orders and the fact that the EIS for the 800 is still a good ways out, we're not expecting a massive surge in orders. As we start to move closer to that transition, you might expect it to pick up and shift more from the 650 to the 800 . Right now, I'd tell you it's just good, solid order activity that is very much supportive of our EIS timing and our expectations for that airplane.
Terrific. You could give us a little bit more color in terms of the order potential for combat. You mentioned Europe is strong. You mentioned Abrams. How about the rest of your vehicles? How about the munitions business?
The rest of the vehicles, you have to think about our European Land Systems business. They have an extremely large installed base of wheeled and tracked combat vehicles that, on the one hand, have a replacement cycle with them that offers some opportunity in the out years, as well as it provides incentive for those who are trying to bring up their level of defense spending to do so in a way that aligns with their allies. If their allies are operating and fighting one particular platform or another, that's an incentive for those who are starting to spend up more to achieve commonality with those allies. We think that puts us in good stead for these opportunities that are coming out of threats in Europe.
You know, across the board, though, to be a little more specific, a lot of this stuff is either in the backlog or on the horizon when you think about the Spanish eight by eight vehicle. You've got again the potential for or the—I shouldn't say the potential—the impending order for tanks out of Poland. We're talking with Romania, Switzerland. All of those are sort of bread and butter countries, are all looking at increased spending on a variety of platforms. That plus just sort of this, again, generic increased level of indicated interest across Europe, particularly Eastern Europe. I think it provides tremendous potential opportunity. It's just too early to try and count any of that and anticipate exactly when or what that looks like.
Timing in Europe often can be a challenge, so it would probably be a bit of a fool's errand for me to try and get too specific around that. We do see a good robust environment to support us with combat. You're welcome.
Brica, operator, I think we are done with the question and answer period. I thank everybody for joining the call today. As a reminder, please refer to the General Dynamics website for the Q2 earnings release and highlights presentation, which will contain our earnings outlook. If you have any additional questions, I can be reached at 703-876-3117. Brica, you can now indicate the call's over, please.
Thank you. That does conclude today's call. Thank you all again for joining. You may now disconnect your line.