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Earnings Call: Q3 2016

Nov 3, 2016

Operator

Greetings, welcome to the Hudson Pacific Properties third quarter 2016 earnings conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode, a question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. If anyone should require operator assistance during the conference, please press star zero on your telephone keypad. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I'd now like to turn the conference over to your host, Ms. Kay Tidwell, Executive VP and General Counsel. Thank you, Ms. Tidwell. You have the floor.

Kay Tidwell
EVP and General Counsel, Hudson Pacific Properties

Good morning, everyone, welcome to Hudson Pacific Properties' third quarter 2016 earnings conference call. With us today are the company's Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Victor Coleman, and Chief Operating Officer and Chief Financial Officer, Mark Lammas. Before I hand the call over to them, please note that on this call, certain information presented contains forward-looking statements. These statements are based on management's current expectations and are subject to risks, uncertainties, and assumptions. Potential risks and uncertainties that could cause the company's business and financial results to differ materially from these forward-looking statements are described in the company's periodic reports filed with the SEC from time to time. All information discussed on this call is as of today, November 3rd, 2016, Hudson Pacific does not intend and it undertakes no duty to update future events or circumstances.

In addition, certain of the financial information presented in this call represents non-GAAP financial measures. The company's earnings release, which was released this morning and is available on the company's website, presents reconciliations to the appropriate GAAP measure and an explanation of why the company believes such non-GAAP financial measures are useful to investors. Now I'd like to turn the call over to Victor Coleman, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of Hudson Pacific. Victor?

Victor Coleman
Chairman and CEO, Hudson Pacific Properties

Thanks, Kay. Good morning, everyone, welcome to our third quarter call. We wrapped up another very strong quarter, marked by our continued outperformance on the leasing front and by the ongoing evolution of our markets in ways that validate several of our early-mover investments. I'm going to talk about more of that in a moment. We executed over 560,000 square feet of new and renewal deals this quarter at 30% GAAP and 20% cash rent spreads. The delta between this and the second quarter spreads, which were 58% and 49% respectively, is largely due to our renewal of Nutanix , which comprise nearly of a third of this quarter's activity. This particular deal had a significant lower mark-to-market because of the pre-existing leases' recent start dates and subsequent rent bumps. Mark's going to provide a little bit more detail in a few moments.

We closed a total of 2.4 million sq ft of new and renewal deals in the first nine months of 2016, surpassing the 2 million sq ft benchmark we discussed on one of our earnings calls earlier this year. GAAP and cash rent spreads for the first nine months are equally remarkable, at 52% and 44% respectively. We still have excellent leasing momentum throughout the Bay Area portfolio. We've keeping a close eye on the market conditions in San Francisco, regardless of the fact that our portfolio there remains stabilized at 95% occupied and 97% leased. We view it as a positive that resilient demand is counterbalancing an uptick in supply, and in turn, keeping already record rents stable at $73 per sq ft and vacancy at a low 6.9%.

While there are a few larger deals this quarter, we, like others, expect to see significant transactions by year-end, including large public tech companies opening offices or expanding significantly in the city. Even so, it should be noted that year-to-date positive net absorption of 1 million sq ft has already exceeded last year's total by about 100,000 sq ft. Not surprisingly, the vast majority of our leasing activity this quarter was at our Silicon Valley assets, which included the significant lease extension and expansion of Nutanix, which I mentioned earlier. No longer a unicorn, Nutanix completed a highly successful IPO in the end of September, with analysts covering the stock, citing the company's tremendous long-term potential.

After renewing 165,000 sq ft and signing a must-take agreement on an additional 39,000 sq ft, Nutanix will ultimately occupy a total of 204,000 sq ft at our 1740 Technology and Metro Plaza assets in North San Jose. Our portfolio in that sub-market, which consists of approximately 2.6 million sq ft of properties directly adjacent to one another, continues to be ideal for accommodating tenants like Nutanix as they grow and mature. Subsequent to the quarter, we signed a 10-year lease with established public tech company, Qualys, for 75,000 sq ft in two full floors at our 919 Hillsdale building at Metro Center in Foster City. This space will serve as their new corporate headquarters. The lease delayed rent commencement is attributable to the company's existing Redwood City lease terminating at the end of 2017, plus standard free rent concessions.

Although, for accounting purposes, we'll see an impact of GAAP rents as of February of 2017. Big picture, on the heels of the BrightEdge Technologies lease last quarter, the Qualys deal signals strong momentum with high-quality tenants at perhaps our most challenging lease-up asset acquired from Blackstone. We're seeing nice activity on the balance of vacancy, despite only just beginning our more significant capital improvements. Even after signaling nearly 440,000 sq ft of leases in our Silicon Valley assets this quarter, our pipeline of deals for those markets, that is real activity, we're trading paper on, LOIs or leases, is very consistent. Overall, fundamentals across the Silicon Valley remain very strong, characterized by vacancy hovering around 7%, which is at or near its historic lows, stable or rising rents, and positive net absorption.

Further new construction supply continues to fill up nicely as at the end of the third quarter, projects under construction that are expected to deliver in the next 6 to 8 months are approximately 75% pre-leased. We view trends in the VC funding market as a net positive in the quarter, and believe the sector is positioning itself nicely for a rebound over the next 12 to 18 months. Funding for companies was down this quarter as the U.S. election and potential interest rate hike are creating market uncertainty that is carrying over into Q4. In parallel, VC firms are building their war chests with Founders Fund, Accel, Andreessen Horowitz, and most recently, Greylock, raising billions of dollars in funds. The IPO market as well is opening up with successful exits by several companies, including Twilio, Apptio, and our Nutanix.

Bottom line is, over the next year, we believe that the environment is shaping up nicely for increased venture investments. On the disposition front, we expect to close our previously announced sale of 12655 Jefferson in Playa Vista in the coming days at a 30% premium to our basis. We continue to evaluate disposition opportunities, and we're still finding unique value-add acquisition targets in our strongest markets. We've been particularly focused on opportunities in Seattle and L.A. over the last few months, where more gradual recoveries have generally kept pricing attractive longer than, say, the Bay Area. We announced purchases at our headquarters building, 11601 Wilshire in L.A. and Hill7 in Seattle prior to this call. Around 80% leased, both are lease-up plays. Whereas Hill7 is a premier quality new construction, 11601 affords us the opportunity to command higher rents and encourage tenant retention through capital investment.

In Seattle, we remain focused on downtown, where the market conditions continue to tighten as high-quality tenants expand. Vacancy dropped to 8.1%, which is the lowest direct vacancy since Q3 2008, accompanied by more than 370,000 square feet of positive net absorption. Weyerhaeuser's move to Pioneer Square made it the fastest-growing sub-market this quarter, as vacancy dropped to just over 5%. Still about a year from completion, we're seeing consistent interest on the balance of 55% pre-leased 450 Alaskan Way project, and remain comfortable with the city's current development pipeline, which at the end of this quarter is over 60% pre-leased. Even more impressive, and a testament to the market's robust demand, the 4.4 million square feet delivered in the last 12 months is over 95% leased. In L.A., office using employment is expected to continue to expand in 2017.

In West L.A., Class A rates increased slightly to $57 per square foot, up 1.5% in the quarter and 6.5% year-over-year. Vacancy did tick up 50 basis points to 10%, but is still down 200 basis points year-over-year. Hollywood and Burbank were two of the biggest contributors to positive net absorption, posting 150,000 square feet and 100,000 square feet respectively. Rents in Hollywood remained around $52 a foot, and we continue to evaluate several lease opportunities for our CUE development, which is only expected to deliver sometime in late 2017. We see demand equal to six times the total building square footage. Our relationship with Netflix, the company that's leading the media and entertainment industry, has only expanded, most recently resulting in a 10-year agreement to occupy stages and production offices at Sunset Bronson.

Netflix is now set to occupy more than 420,000 sq ft within our portfolio, and this is the latest commitment, is supplemental to any future interest in CUE or other projects that we may have. All of our various deals with Netflix highlight the massive shift in content, which is created and distributed. Recently announced the acquisition of Time Warner by AT&T signals further industry realignment. As a growing number of media companies spend $billions to produce a pipeline of original content for streaming anytime, anywhere, our studio ownership affords us unparalleled facilities and capabilities to participate in that growth. This is something we've spoken about for several years now. We can provide locations for and expertise in content production to companies like Google and Amazon, and support companies like ABC, CBS, HBO, and Showtime as they build out their digital infrastructure, build global branding and distribution.

By capitalizing on these industry shifts, we expect studio cash flow to continue to become increasingly predictable and stage-adjacent office space even more valuable. This confirms our original investment thesis regarding the studios, and that is an element of our business with significant potential to grow. Further, these trends, while currently more concentrated in Hollywood, will ultimately spill over to and benefit other Los Angeles markets. Although smaller in scale, our Arts District investment has similar characteristics to our Hollywood entree 10 years ago, in that we're among a handful of early movers to identify the seeds for future office demand from leading creative companies. The neighborhood's growing appeal for these types of users has been well documented recently by several national publications.

Warner Music's move was a long-anticipated one by us and others, and it most certainly legitimizes the Arts District in a way that increases the value of our holdings. Even so, pre Warner Music deal, with our Fourth and Traction delivery in early 2017 and 405 Mateo delivery in early 2018, we've added demand equal to more than two times the combined building sq ft for these two assets from a variety of service and creative firms. I suspect our investment in the Arts District will ultimately prove out as another example of what our company does best, identifying and realizing opportunities that others don't get access to overlook. As for Warner Music leaving Pinnacle, they've already gotten a subtenant for about a third of their space, who's looking to expand both in terms and sq ft.

Warner's lease runs through the end of 2019, which combined with L.A.'s very limited supply of big blocks of space, gives us plenty of options. With that now I'm going to turn the call over to Mark, who's going to speak to our third quarter financial highlights.

Mark Lammas
COO and CFO, Hudson Pacific Properties

Thanks, Victor. Funds from operations or FFO, excluding specified items for the three months ended September 30, 2016, totaled $67.4 million, or $0.46 per diluted share, compared to FFO, excluding specified items of $63 million or $0.43 per share a year ago. Specified items for the third quarter of 2016 consisted of acquisition-related expense of $300,000, or $0.00 per diluted share. Specified items for the third quarter of 2015 consisted of acquisition-related expense of $100,000, or $0.00 per diluted share. FFO, including specified items for the three months ended September 30, 2016, totaled $67.1 million, or $0.46 per diluted share, compared to $63.1 million or $0.43 per diluted share a year ago.

As of September 30th, 2016, our stabilized and in-service office portfolio was 96.5% and 90.7% leased respectively, compared to 96.5% and 91.1% at the end of the second quarter, and 94.5% and 89.5% a year ago. The 40 basis point decrease in our in-service portfolio lease percentage this quarter is largely due to the inclusion of our newly acquired lease-up asset, 11601 Wilshire, which was 84.8% leased as of the end of the quarter. We may see a similar result next quarter upon incorporating Hill7 , which is currently 80.4% leased. Turning back briefly to Victor's point on this quarter's rent spreads. Nutanix's preexisting lease was signed in tranches from 2014 to 2016, with rents subject to annual increases. In addition, we renewed the lease nearly two years early, pushing out their original 2018 termination date to 2021.

As such, the renewal rate represented only 3% growth off the expiring rate. Give you a better sense of the deal's overall impact, excluding the Nutanix renewal, third quarter GAAP and cash rent spreads would have been 44% and 32% respectively, versus the reported 30% and 20%. Net operating income with respect to our 31 same-store office properties for the third quarter increased 9.3% on a cash basis and 9.5% on a GAAP basis. The trailing 12-month occupancy for our media and entertainment properties increased to 87.1% from 76.8% for the same period a year ago, and net operating income increased during the third quarter by 63.9% on a cash basis and 51.7% on a GAAP basis.

As Victor mentioned, we're seeing heightened demand at both studios, which contributed to higher occupancy and net operating income, along with our returning to service certain stages and production offices we'd previously taken offline for improvements at Sunset Bronson. Our completion of parking structures at both studios at the end of last year also contributed to this quarter's substantial net operating income increase. The strength of our balance sheet continues to afford us excellent access to capital. With regard to financings, in July, we completed a $200 million private placement from which we applied net proceeds from $150 million of 10-year 3.98% senior guaranteed notes to repay amounts drawn on our credit facility to fund our 11601 Wilshire acquisition. Subsequently, we accessed the additional $50 million of seven-year 3.66% senior guaranteed notes, also to repay amounts outstanding under our credit facility.

Concurrent with the closing of our second joint venture with CPPIB to acquire Hill7 , we closed a secured non-recourse $101 million loan at a fixed rate of 3.383%, due in 2028. This quarter, we are pleased to expand our partnership with CPPIB, one of the largest global pension funds, on our Hill7 acquisition. This deal was a follow-on to our sale of a partial interest in 1455 Market to CPPIB in early 2015. We're currently CPPIB's exclusive West Coast partner and will continue to evaluate each opportunity to determine if it's a fit for our joint venture structure. With regard to other funding sources to execute our business plan, be it acquisition or otherwise, we have plenty of dry powder, including at least $325 million undrawn on our credit facility upon the closing of 12655 Jefferson.

In general, our capital structure and credit metrics continue to afford us exceptional liquidity and access to the highest quality capital providers, debt and equity alike. Turning to guidance. We're increasing our full-year 2016 FFO guidance from the previously announced range of $1.71-$1.77 per diluted share, excluding specified items, to a revised range of $1.74-$1.78 per diluted share, excluding specified items. This reflects our third quarter FFO of $0.46 per diluted share, excluding specified items, as well as the transactions mentioned in our press release and on this call, including the sale of 12655 Jefferson in the fourth quarter. This guidance assumes full-year 2016 weighted average fully diluted common stocking units of 147,740,000.

As always, the full-year 2016 FFO estimate reflects management's view of current and future market conditions, including assumptions with respect to rental rates, occupancy levels, and the earnings impact of events referenced in our press release and on this call, but otherwise excludes any impact from future unannounced or speculative acquisitions, dispositions, debt financing, to repayments, recapitalizations, capital market activity, or similar matters. Now I'll turn it back to Victor.

Victor Coleman
Chairman and CEO, Hudson Pacific Properties

Thanks, Mark. Well done. In closing, I'd like to reiterate that as we head into 2017, we continue to see consistent strong demand and excellent leasing momentum throughout our entire portfolio and across our markets. As always, I'd like to thank the entire Hudson Pacific team, especially our terrific senior management team for all their hard work this quarter and the quarters to come. To everybody on this call, we appreciate your continued support for Hudson Pacific and look forward to updating you next quarter. Operator, with that, we're going to turn the call over to you for questions.

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, at this time, we'll be conducting a question-and-answer session. If you'd like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line has entered the queue, and you may press star two if you'd like to remove your question from the queue. As a reminder, for anyone using speaker equipment, it may be necessary that you pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. One moment please, while we poll for everyone's questions. Our first question comes from the line of Nick Yulico with UBS. Please go ahead, sir.

Nick Yulico
Analyst, UBS

Oh, thanks. Hi, everyone. I know, Mark, you explained some of the change in the leased rate, what drove that. I guess, though, if we look at some of the sub-markets for the lease-up portfolio, it looks like various markets came down a bit on the lease rate. Can you just talk about what drove that third quarter versus second quarter or some of the leased rate change in particularly some of the former EOP assets?

Mark Lammas
COO and CFO, Hudson Pacific Properties

Sure, Nick. Actually, why don't I let Art address that? He can give you some good color around that.

Art Suazo
EVP, Leasing, Hudson Pacific Properties

Yeah. We're talking about the lease-up portfolio with the exclusion of 11601. We're really talking about 20 basis points, which represents only about 24,000 sq ft, and that's made up from two assets. One is Pop, the other is Gateway. In both cases, the tenants are about 14,000, 15,000 sq ft. We've added this to our VSP program, which we've been very successful at in leasing up. In one case with Gateway, because of the demand in the market for smaller ready-to-go space, that's going to be divided down, and that's already underway. The plans are already underway. At Pop, because of the demand in the mid-size range in that market, kind of 10,000-20,000 sq ft, we're going to wide box it. We feel we have a better opportunity to lease it up in that size range.

Victor Coleman
Chairman and CEO, Hudson Pacific Properties

There's certainly demand in both markets for the space as we speak now. We're really dealing with a snapshot. We're losing 20 basis points. We're dealing with a snapshot in time at the end of the quarter. Truth is, we do the Qualys deal a couple of days after. Instead of losing 20 basis points, we'd be picking up about 190 basis points on that same lease-up portfolio in the same span of time. Since then, since the Qualys deal, we've certainly picked up some additional net new absorption. I'm certainly not concerned at all on that little downtick because of the activity we have in the pipeline in leases and so forth. I think that kind of takes you through it.

Nick Yulico
Analyst, UBS

Yeah. That's helpful. Then just one other question is on Cisco. I know that the early termination right, I think the end of 2017 at Campus Center for over 400,000 square feet. We've heard from some brokers in the market that the expectation is that Cisco probably doesn't stay in that space. Can you just talk about what you're expecting there? Ultimately, I think that's also a mark-to-market opportunity for you guys.

Victor Coleman
Chairman and CEO, Hudson Pacific Properties

Victor. I will tell you, we've engaged our brokerage team with their brokerage team, and just to be factually correct, they expire at the end of 2019. They don't expire at the end of 2017. They have an option to terminate on March of 2017. They need to let us know by March 1 of 2017 to move out by the end of 2017. We've always said that we're reaching out, we're going through conversations. Candidly, they've been fairly quiet, and as a result, I think it's going to be challenging for them to get out by 2017, since they haven't really come to us yet. My guess is they'll be there through 2019, and then at that point between 2017 and 2019, we'll see what happens.

We're on top of it, and in terms of the mark-to-markets with that asset, it's a slight increase, but it's nowhere near competitive to what— I mean, compared to what we have in a lot of the other mark-to-markets in our portfolio.

Nick Yulico
Analyst, UBS

Okay. Right. It is newer space, I believe. Is that right?

Victor Coleman
Chairman and CEO, Hudson Pacific Properties

Yeah, exactly. It's newer space. I think the value add from our standpoint in terms of real capital dollars in are going to be a lot less than we normally do for our creative office portfolio.

Nick Yulico
Analyst, UBS

All right. Thanks, Victor.

Victor Coleman
Chairman and CEO, Hudson Pacific Properties

You got it, buddy.

Operator

Our next question comes on the line of Craig Mailman with KeyBanc. Please go ahead.

Craig Mailman
Analyst, KeyBanc

Hey, guys. Just on Metro Center, you guys had some good activity there. Victor, you're saying that the pipeline looks pretty good. What's percolating the activity that you're seeing, and what are you guys doing on the rent side there?

Victor Coleman
Chairman and CEO, Hudson Pacific Properties

Well, Art, do you want to take that?

Art Suazo
EVP, Leasing, Hudson Pacific Properties

Yeah. On the activity, we're seeing an uptick in that market. We're seeing an uptick in midsize to larger deals over the last couple of quarters, certainly. What we have is probably from the 20, for what's left over 20,000 to 50,000 sq ft, we've got multiple offers going out on that. When we talk about Metro, we're really talking about the Hillsdale, kind of the large blocks that are available there.

Victor Coleman
Chairman and CEO, Hudson Pacific Properties

I think we got about 180,000 feet vacant right now, and we got about 80,000 square feet in negotiations in various forms of leases in sort of that common area portfolio that we have.

Craig Mailman
Analyst, KeyBanc

Are you guys adjusting rents at all there to kind of get this activity going, or is it just things are just picking up in general?

Art Suazo
EVP, Leasing, Hudson Pacific Properties

I think things are picking up. We've also done some capital work, some interior and exterior work, making it more appealing. No, we haven't. In fact, the last couple of deals have been ahead of underwriting.

Craig Mailman
Analyst, KeyBanc

Okay. On the Nutanix deal, it sounds like you guys basically just gave them an escalator bump to get them to stay and push it out. I'm just curious, I would've thought market rents in that market would've been a little bit higher here, seen some growth since 2014. Were you guys worried that they were going to leave or?

Victor Coleman
Chairman and CEO, Hudson Pacific Properties

No. Let me sort of give you the top line, and then Mark can get into the details. They're at 1,740 at Metro. They were 165,000 feet. They had a must-take for almost 40,000, for another 39,000 feet, which they had, based upon the deal that was negotiated on their original deal. All we did was push out the lease for two years to accommodate the must-take. The market rent that they were at was based on their agreed-upon must-take. It wasn't that the market conditions were different. It was based upon their demand needs, and there was never any conversation around them leaving that space. Quite the contrary. I think they're growing, and I expect to hear more from them on that.

Mark Lammas
COO and CFO, Hudson Pacific Properties

The bulk of the 165 renewal was footage that was actually executed in 2015 and even 2016. That 3% mark-to-market on that renewal is not a reflection of some sort of pullback in any respect of where market has been trending to in terms of rents, but rather the fact that the lease that we were renewing it was a very recent lease and rents reflecting more like 2015 and 2016 rents, right? There just hasn't been that much passage of time in order to get a large mark-to-market on that renewal that pushed out the incremental two years.

Craig Mailman
Analyst, KeyBanc

Okay. Did you guys give them any TI or free rent on the renewal?

Victor Coleman
Chairman and CEO, Hudson Pacific Properties

No.

Art Suazo
EVP, Leasing, Hudson Pacific Properties

A little TI, no free rent, I think, right? Just a little TI, just because of the space. That 40,000 feet.

On the-

Victor Coleman
Chairman and CEO, Hudson Pacific Properties

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Art Suazo
EVP, Leasing, Hudson Pacific Properties

additional space, obviously, but not on the renewal.

Craig Mailman
Analyst, KeyBanc

Okay. All right. Great. Thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Blaine Heck with Wells Fargo. Please go ahead.

Blaine Heck
Analyst, Wells Fargo

Thanks. Good morning out there. Victor, obviously, you guys are ahead of the expectations on leasing. You talked about, I think, 2 million sq ft full-year figure earlier this year and exceeded that with this quarter. I guess, can you put your finger on anything specific that's been driving the better-than-expected demand in your portfolio?

Victor Coleman
Chairman and CEO, Hudson Pacific Properties

Obviously, you gave me the opportunity to commend our leasing team and Art and all his guys, so thanks for that. Without them, we wouldn't have been able to accomplish what we wanted to accomplish. I think what we've done overall is amassed a portfolio, specifically, the transition around the Blackstone portfolio. We always said it needed to be repositioned. I think we did it a lot quicker than we thought. Our initial budgetary timeframe was a three-to-four-year period. As a result, we turned it around in a 12-24-month period. That's put more space in the marketplace that a lot of tenants, quite frankly, never looked at. If I'm looking at our activity, what we do is we sort of chart twos, threes, and fours, sort of anywhere from LOIs into leases.

For our leasing activity, the preponderance of what's going on right now, either new leases, renews, or backfills for tenants that are over 10,000 feet right now in that portfolio, is pretty much as good as we've ever had in terms of the flow of tenant activity, and the consistency of the demand there. The numbers are very impressive across the board. I think we've repositioned those assets. We put a lot of capital dollars in quickly to the ones that really needed it right away, and there's a programmatic plan going forward, and I think the market sort of understands that we're long-term holders. We're not short-term guys.

Blaine Heck
Analyst, Wells Fargo

Yeah. That's helpful. I guess following up on that, you've seen very good activity in that kind of leased-up portfolio, but I guess, are you seeing any big differences in tenant demand or behavior in the Peninsula versus what you're seeing in the CBD these days?

Victor Coleman
Chairman and CEO, Hudson Pacific Properties

I think the only thing I would comment, Art, jump in on this. I think the only thing I would comment is the lease term seems to be longer. The desire to have longer lease terms, the five to seven is more like seven to 10. Isn't that right?

Art Suazo
EVP, Leasing, Hudson Pacific Properties

That's right.

Victor Coleman
Chairman and CEO, Hudson Pacific Properties

Listen, also, at the end of the day, Blaine, I think, people have asked us this question. We are seeing no pushback on rent, consistent with the first two quarters of the year prior to this quarter, and concessions are flat.

Art Suazo
EVP, Leasing, Hudson Pacific Properties

There's no pressure.

Victor Coleman
Chairman and CEO, Hudson Pacific Properties

There's no pressure on concessions right now. We're not seeing anything of any magnitude.

Blaine Heck
Analyst, Wells Fargo

Okay, great. Just another follow-up on that. You talked about the lease ups coming a little bit quicker than you guys would've expected. I guess, can you just give us your updated thoughts on the timing of repositioning of those assets that are still in that portfolio? When do you think stabilization could be kind of achievable for that group?

Victor Coleman
Chairman and CEO, Hudson Pacific Properties

Well, it's an asset-by-asset answer. Offline, I'm sure Mark and Art can sort of walk you through that on that basis. Overall, I don't think anything in terms of that specific portfolio, is looking to be repositioned greater than through 2017. I think the anticipation with the activity and the capital dollars applied, by the end of 2017, all those assets should be online, if not sooner, with specific assets in play right now. I'm just sort of looking at the amassing of some of the assets that are being back-filled and the expirations through 2017 on that. We've got a tremendous amount of activity. Obviously, as you know, the mark-to-market dollars on the rent differential is going to be pretty impressive.

Blaine Heck
Analyst, Wells Fargo

Great. Last one for you, Alex. What are you guys seeing on the acquisition market at this point? Are there any markets that have more attractive opportunities than others? Are you guys looking to continue to focus on kind of value add, or would you consider any stabilized acquisitions?

Speaker 13

I think our strategy hasn't changed. We remain committed to our core markets. As you know, we don't do allocations by sub-market. If we see an attractive opportunity in any of the markets, we'll pursue it if we think it makes sense. We're constantly evaluating both more value add and more opportunistic opportunities being balanced with more stabilized investment.

Blaine Heck
Analyst, Wells Fargo

All right. Great. Thanks, guys.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Jamie Feldman with Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Please go ahead.

Jamie Feldman
Analyst, Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Great. Thank you. I guess starting, Victor, you had commented you expect to see significant CBD San Francisco leasing activity into year-end, especially larger tenant. Can you provide more color on what you think we'll see?

Victor Coleman
Chairman and CEO, Hudson Pacific Properties

Yeah. I mean, listen, as you know, I think we're 97% leased in the city right now. Is that right? 96.5%, or something like that. We've got a couple of large spaces that we have tremendous activity on. One in particular, we've got over two specific tenants looking for the same space, which is pretty impressive numbers overall. We're seeing that large space in the market today. There seems to be a demand for that. I think as a result, we're going to see some pretty impressive numbers from a mark-to-market standpoint in our portfolio. I got to believe that if it's happening with us, the space that is also in the marketplace, it's got to happen with others. We're not going to be unique to the market.

It's a positive sign in the city, and the demand is still the same kind of mix and quality of tenant that you would think is in the works right now. They're high-quality tenants with great credit.

Jamie Feldman
Analyst, Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Okay. Then you commented that rents are still rising in Silicon Valley. What % growth are you guys seeing, and how much can you push your existing assets?

Victor Coleman
Chairman and CEO, Hudson Pacific Properties

Well, I'll sort of make two comments around that, one more generic and then one more specific. In the Valley specifically, we're looking at a high single-digit year-end number in terms of where the markets should exceed year-over-year. When you look at our portfolio, it's a blend, you've seen those numbers for the most part, we're looking at our 2017 expirations, we're looking at just our tenants over 10,000 feet that we're in conversations with, either on renewals or new deals or backfills. It's almost 1 million feet of transactions right now. We're seeing about 40% of conversations are going on in that 1 million feet right now, which are pretty consistent to renew or backfill. We're seeing over a 50% increase in mark-to-market rents.

Jamie Feldman
Analyst, Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Okay. I guess while you're talking about 2017, any known move-outs? Specifically, have you been any discussions with AIG in July?

Victor Coleman
Chairman and CEO, Hudson Pacific Properties

The two big known move-outs, I should say, well, yeah, the two big known move-outs are obviously AIG. They've come to us to stay for partial space. We are not going to entertain that because we've got enough activity for the whole space. I was just going to give sort of a rough number on that.

Speaker 13

23,000 feet.

Victor Coleman
Chairman and CEO, Hudson Pacific Properties

Yeah, rolling it.

Speaker 13

$47.

Victor Coleman
Chairman and CEO, Hudson Pacific Properties

Going to?

Speaker 13

70-plus.

Victor Coleman
Chairman and CEO, Hudson Pacific Properties

There you go. Then there's B of A, which is not a known move-out because we have not heard from them. The reality is they're a blended $11 roughly going to, I don't know, Jamie, $50? Something like that. My guess is the choice will be theirs to stay. The activity, I think Art feels on 1455 for those guys is pretty strong, specifically in the tower, and he's already got people interested in the podium.

Jamie Feldman
Analyst, Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Okay. I'm showing AIG. Your supplemental says AIG is 132,000?

Victor Coleman
Chairman and CEO, Hudson Pacific Properties

Yeah.

Jamie Feldman
Analyst, Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Sorry.

Victor Coleman
Chairman and CEO, Hudson Pacific Properties

I think we picked up a little bit of that footage potentially after the quarter. They might be 123 right now, Jamie. Yeah, it might be 123 right now.

Jamie Feldman
Analyst, Bank of America Merrill Lynch

All right. You said 23. All right, it's 123. Then beyond that, you were saying there's really no chunky move-outs?

Speaker 13

No, those are the big ones. The other decent size one is Bosch in Palo Alto. They got 58,000 feet.

Victor Coleman
Chairman and CEO, Hudson Pacific Properties

On that one, we're in discussions with Either way, they either renew or we backfill, but they're at $66.

Jamie Feldman
Analyst, Bank of America Merrill Lynch

80 plus

is probably 80 plus right now.

Finally, Victor, going back to your comment on VC and with the IPO market getting better, it sounds like you're feeling more optimistic. Do you think 2017 shapes up to be a healthier year than 2016? I guess investors are having a hard time, or including myself, just trying to figure out what these changes in the IPO market might mean, and just how much better things really feel. Maybe if you could provide more color on your conversations.

Victor Coleman
Chairman and CEO, Hudson Pacific Properties

Let's not over-exaggerate what the IPO market may or may not be for an exit, because we all know that this year was pretty anemic at best. Fortuitously for our standpoint, we had a couple of wins with tenants of ours that got through that window. I think more importantly, less around the IPO market, but more about the recapitalization and distribution of capital. When we're talking about the VC market, when we're talking about the amount of money that they've raised, they have a finite period of investment to get out, and we think that those opportunities will start in 2017, and continue throughout. I can't proportionally say that those dollars are going to be allocated in the first half of their investment term versus the second.

I can tell you when you're talking about the $ billions that have been raised, those dollars are going to get out in 2017, 2018, 2019, and some will exit. There are obviously some very large potential IPOs on the horizon that may crack the window for others to follow, but we'll have to sort of wait and see. I'm more optimistic on the distribution of capital on the VC side, and the ability for them to invest in some of these companies that are not early-stage guys, but more middle and upper.

Jamie Feldman
Analyst, Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Okay. I was thinking more specifically about the real estate market. Like the impact on the real estate market. Do you think 2017's shaping up to be a better year than 2016 already, just based on what you're seeing?

Victor Coleman
Chairman and CEO, Hudson Pacific Properties

Yeah. Listen, if you look at sort of the pipeline of guys that are looking at our space, the quality of tenant is very secure. We sort of talk about from the real estate standpoint, the deals that we sign, basically through the first three quarters of the year, it's still a 60/40 public companies versus private companies, 60/40 tech versus non-tech. Mark's great statistic about companies that are less than 10 years in existence that have signed our portfolio and that were looking at our portfolio are right around 10%. The quality of tenant that are going into the real estate markets that we're in is still very high.

Jamie Feldman
Analyst, Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Okay. All right, great. Thank you.

Victor Coleman
Chairman and CEO, Hudson Pacific Properties

Thanks, Jamie.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Alexander Goldfarb with Sandler O'Neill. Please go ahead.

Alexander Goldfarb
Analyst, Sandler O'Neill

Hey, good morning out there.

Victor Coleman
Chairman and CEO, Hudson Pacific Properties

Hey, Al.

Alexander Goldfarb
Analyst, Sandler O'Neill

Hey, how are you? Just a few questions here. I guess, first, maybe just switching to the studios for a minute. I realize that they're not fully occupied, but just not totally sure how the lease structure works. Given the increased demand for content, is there a way for you guys to sort of get more out of the studio space you have as far as leasing it to more users? The way the leases are structured, people have it locked up whether or not they're using it, so in a sense, maybe it's maximized as much as you can.

Victor Coleman
Chairman and CEO, Hudson Pacific Properties

I'm going to start, and I'll let Bill jump in for a second here. We're referring to Netflix at Icon, and then the new deal we just did with Netflix, both for office and sound stages, which is an additional almost 100,000 feet combined. The activity around that new lease is sort of indicative of what the content play with all the other players that are looking at our Gower and the remaining stages that we currently have, as well as the office space. I think the interesting thing, Alex, is you're looking at a market where the space is going to be accounted for and leased, and as to date, the stages that Netflix has had an opportunity to take down for their long-term lease, and they're going to take down, they will fully occupy them.

They're going to have a consistent flow of production, and that's where the need for back office space is and the demand on that. That's why, as Mark mentioned, they've expedited their occupancy on Icon from 2 years to 1 year earlier than anticipated, or 13 months earlier. I think that messaging for the other guys in the business is going to be consistent, and Bill's sending off that right now with not just the guys I mentioned, the HBOs, and Showtimes, and ABCs, and CBSes, and Fox, but others as well. You want to comment on that, Bill?

Speaker 13

Yeah. I think what's happening is that the streaming media companies, again, they don't really own their own physical facilities as traditional studios. They need to figure out a way to, I'll use the term, warehouse space. They also don't follow the traditional pattern of network television, so they basically produce in bundles, and they stream that content on a global basis in bundles as well, sort of around the clock kind of way of doing it. Netflix just announced that they're going to have 50% of their content be original content in the next 24 months, so they're going to have to up the ante. What's happening, all the other players around them are going to do the same. The demand's going to continue to increase.

The amount of supply on this side in L.A. is going to stay pretty stable, so we'll still be in a very strong position.

Alexander Goldfarb
Analyst, Sandler O'Neill

Okay. That's helpful. On the acquisition side, Alex, you guys mentioned you're more focused on L.A. and Seattle, which is consistent with your Investor Day. Just given where pricing has gone in L.A., it would seem like the secret is out. One is between the two markets, should we expect more Hill7 , more Seattle deals, or do you see that the rent growth in L.A. is such that even where pricing is today and the sort of going in three handles, that you still see some pretty good opportunity in the next few years, even buying at today's prices in L.A.?

Speaker 13

Sure. I think you can expect that we're going to continue to look at opportunities in both markets. We still think, for the right opportunities, we can find good value. We haven't been, as you know, the buyers of property that three handles, looking to get it to a five. We tend to look at things that we can get to the real estate sooner and get outsized yields. We're going to continue to stick to our investment thesis and look for those opportunities. I do think, we still think there's good opportunities, just where we are in the cycle, where we see rents going in both markets, find opportunities that'll be attractive.

Alexander Goldfarb
Analyst, Sandler O'Neill

Okay, as far as the rent growth that you see in Seattle and in L.A., would you say they're similar trajectories, or is one market seeing faster rent growth, as you underwrite acquisitions that you're looking at in either L.A. or Seattle?

Speaker 13

I think they're both fairly balanced, especially within the specific sub-markets that we look to invest in.

Alexander Goldfarb
Analyst, Sandler O'Neill

Okay. Thanks, Alex.

Speaker 13

Of course.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, again, if you wish to ask a question at this time, please press star one to enter the question queue. That's star one to enter the question queue at this time, you'll know that you've entered the queue once you hear the confirmation tone. Our next question comes from the line of Vikram Malhotra from Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.

Vikram Malhotra
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Thank you. Just sticking on acquisitions for a sec. You referred to, or mentioned that being currently at least the exclusive partner with CPPIB. Can you maybe just elaborate, what sort of properties or what sort of assets would you look at to partner with them or similar partners going forward?

Victor Coleman
Chairman and CEO, Hudson Pacific Properties

Sure. Currently today our relationship with CPPIB is one that we look to quality of real estate in the markets that we are in. They've not differentiated from, in terms of the alliance of our regional and marketplaces and the class of real estate that we're in. I think clearly going forward, if there were other opportunities like a 1455 in the existing portfolio to bring them in something existing or something like a Hill7 , which is a brand-new construction with lease-up opportunity, they would be an absolute identified potential partner for us. Not to say that we need to use them. Our balance sheet, the way Mark has managed it is such that we have capacity. In terms of other partners going forward, clearly we've been approached by a number of them. We like our relationship.

It takes a long time to negotiate sort of a JV agreement. If you have one that works and we're comfortable with the partner, that seems to be our desire. Not to say that we wouldn't look at another partner down the road, we're focused on that relationship, to the extent that the assets match our sort of game plan going forward with them.

Vikram Malhotra
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Okay, that's helpful. Just to follow up on the studios, given sort of the trends you've described, and the changes that have occurred on those properties, any data points or thoughts on underlying value of those assets, just given it's tough to see or to look at comps and see what they are just from an NAV standpoint?

Victor Coleman
Chairman and CEO, Hudson Pacific Properties

That's a great question. Listen, historically, we've always looked at 100 to 150 basis points wide of where we trade our Class A stuff in our similar markets. That's going to be a pretty tough comp today to validate given the fact that there are very few of them out there that have, one, traded, and two, are valued. Also, when you look at our competitive set of our Class A real estate there, it's hard to argue that Icon, as an example, would be anything less than a 5 cap. It would have a 4 handle in front of it. My guess is if you're looking to value these relative to stabilized office that is not an Icon-type asset, we're probably talking around somewhere around 6.5, Alex.

Speaker 13

Yeah.

Victor Coleman
Chairman and CEO, Hudson Pacific Properties

In that range.

Speaker 13

Yeah. I think if the trend continues where we'll be able to execute these longer-term leases for our stage and production office space like we did with Netflix at Bronson, you'll see further compression because you'll just have longer-term leases that people will be able to value.

Vikram Malhotra
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Yeah, it certainly seems like the combination is tough to replicate, that would make sense. Thank you very much.

Victor Coleman
Chairman and CEO, Hudson Pacific Properties

Thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Rich Anderson with Mizuho Securities. Please go ahead.

Rich Anderson
Analyst, Mizuho Securities

Good morning. Last question, I guess. Before you got started in Silicon Valley, in the peninsula, you had just kind of I can't remember the chain of events exactly, but you just kind of finished up in San Francisco then you took on that major effort, and it's obviously worked out great for you. Now, I'm curious what you think about the future for HPP beyond Seattle, Northern California, and Los Angeles. Do you have designs on taking another rightful shot at a nearby area, or do you think that you'll just now build upon what you have here from a market, individual region perspective that you have in the portfolio today?

Victor Coleman
Chairman and CEO, Hudson Pacific Properties

Yeah, Rich, thanks for the question. I think we've been pretty consistent in our thought process. We think our markets are some if not the best in the country. We think that there's opportunities with the Silicon Northwest, in the Bay Area, and in L.A., in our current markets and in the surrounding markets that are around those, that we see opportunities and that we're going to want to expand in. We have no desires in going to other markets at this time. We're not even sort of evaluating those other markets. I think there's just enough opportunity, and I think the platform that we've positioned with our management team around those markets is rock solid. As a result, those are the ones we're going to focus all our energy on.

Rich Anderson
Analyst, Mizuho Securities

Okay, perfect. That's what I wanted to hear. Thanks.

Victor Coleman
Chairman and CEO, Hudson Pacific Properties

Thank you.

Operator

There are no further questions at this time. I'll turn the call back over to management for any closing remarks.

Victor Coleman
Chairman and CEO, Hudson Pacific Properties

Thank you so much for participating in our third quarter call. We hope everybody has a great holiday season, and we look forward to talking to you the first of the year.

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, this does conclude our teleconference for today. We thank you for your time and participation. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Have a wonderful rest