Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by, and welcome to the Hexcel Q4 2020 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. After the speakers' presentation, there will be a question and answer session. Please limit your questions to one only. Thank you.
Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would like to now hand the conference over to your speaker today, Patrick Winterlich, Chief Financial Officer. Please go ahead, sir.
Thank you. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to Hexcel Corporation's Q4 2020 earnings conference call. Before beginning, let me cover the formalities. First, I want to remind everyone about the Safe Harbor provisions related to any forward looking statements we may make during the course Certain statements contained in this call may constitute forward looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. They involve estimates, assumptions, judgments and uncertainties caused by a variety of factors This could cause future accrual actual results or outcomes to differ materially from our forward looking statements today.
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Good day, I'm Nick Stanage, our Chairman, CEO and President and Kurt Goddard, our Vice President of Investor Relations. The purpose of the call is to review our Q4 and full year 2020 results detailed in the news release issued yesterday. Now let me turn the call over to Nick.
Thanks, Patrick. Good morning, everyone, And thank you for joining us today as we share both 4th quarter and full year 2020 results. After reading our news release last night, I'm sure you'll agree that clearly we've had a seismic shift In the business, our demand, our volume and our financial metrics. I also hope that you recognize how Hexcel has moved quickly and robustly in response to the market challenges arising from the pandemic. The results we are sharing with you today reflect the strong and decisive actions that we took swiftly in response The actions which are ongoing include approximately a 35% reduction in global headcount, Temporarily idling assets, cutting discretionary expenditures, prioritizing the most critical projects, including capital expenditures and rightsizing working capital to generate strong cash flow.
So I'm glad that 2020 is behind us. At the same time, it's amazing what you learn about yourself And your organization during such challenging times. I learned how extraordinarily strong, resilient Our team accepted and embraced the challenges we faced, quickly developing options and taking decisive actions. They knew what needed to be done and they did it. Although 2020 is over, the pandemic headwinds will Continue to test us into 2021.
As I mentioned in our news release last night, this Q1 of 20 21 along with Q3 and Q4 of 2020 are anticipated to be our most challenging quarters during this pandemic. We expect continued inventory destocking into the first Part of 2021, which will continue to impact sales volumes and Growth for both our customers and for Hexcel is contingent on a healthy return to air travel Following a successful vaccine rollout, we are guardedly optimistic for a steady recovery in our business as 20 2021 is going to be yet another unusual year as the world gradually emerges from the pandemic and remaining disciplined will be vital for our success. We will not drop the ball or our guard In relation to the health and safety of our employees, we'll continue to work with our customers to provide innovative solutions To meet their needs, while at the same time maintaining our focus on delivering operational excellence And cost control and not allowing waste and inefficiency in any areas of our business. We will remain disciplined in relation to cash management and maintain an optimal level of working capital throughout our business and control inventory levels to match our customer demand requirements.
And we are optimistic that the actions we have taken and continue to take during the pandemic are laying the foundation for another period of robust growth in the years ahead. Now let me turn to our results. First, I'll cover the 4th quarter results and then full year 2020. 4th quarter sales of almost $296,000,000 We're in line with our forecast. Adjusted 4th quarter's diluted EPS was a negative $0.18 Compared to a positive $0.86 last year, our focus on cash management has been unwavering throughout this pandemic And in the Q4, we generated another $104,000,000 resulting in $214,000,000 of free cash Well for the year.
Turning to our 3 markets. 4th quarter Aerospace sales were down 60 6% compared to Q4 twenty nineteen. All of our major programs were down substantially With the largest sales impact being related to the A350 wideband. Bill rate reductions driven by the pandemic Combined with the 7 37 MAX grounding and significant supply chain inventory destocking Led to the reduced sales levels. Sales to other commercial aerospace, which includes regional and business aircraft, Fell almost 60% year over year.
Again, the decline was from lower demand resulting from the pandemic. On a positive note, Space and Defense sales increased almost 4% compared to Q4 2019. Growth in this segment is broad based across several defense and space programs, particularly U. S. Military rotorcraft.
Industrial sales declined approximately 29% when compared to Q4 2019. As you know, wind energy sales are our largest industrial submarket and those sales declined 42% in constant currency. During the year, we saw a decline in demand for wind energy materials in the United States by our largest wind energy customer Vestas. That led us to close our pre preg production facility in Windsor, Colorado in November. The decline is attributable in part to the commoditization and outsourcing of blades with a change in technology from prepreg to infusion.
Wind Energy remains a good business for Hexcel and we are adjusting to the changing market dynamics and introducing new innovations support our customers. Vestas continues to be a great customer and manufacturing continues at our plants in Neumark, Austria And Tianjin, China. Now let's turn to some specifics in our full year 2020 results. 2020 sales were $1,500,000,000 down 36% year over year. Adjusted diluted EPS for the year was $0.25 Our full year results were bolstered by the pre pandemic Q1 2020 results, which were the strongest of the year.
Free cash flow came in strong at $214,000,000 compared to $287,000,000 2019, our liquidity position remains robust and we have managed working capital tightly during this pandemic. 2020 commercial aerospace sales were about $822,000,000 compared to $1,600,000,000 In 2019, a decline of almost 50%, an unprecedented decline in demand Driven by lower build rates across all programs, including the 7 37 MAX was Space declined by 1 third. Space and Defense sales for 2020 We're nominally to $448,000,000 compared to $445,000,000 in 2019. Select programs have been impacted by pandemic induced disruptions, although we feel these are temporary impacts That will be recovered over time. Moreover, Space and Defense is traditionally a strong and attractive market for Hexcel, Now enhanced by our ARC Technologies acquisition where we continue to be pleased with the excellent performance and sales growth.
Finally, turning to industrial. Sales were $232,000,000 in 2020, which was 26.5% lower year over year. We have good wind energy demand continuing from the European and Asian markets as We entered 2021 and we are encouraged by growing demand for our composites in automotive, marine And sports applications where we have opportunities for growth. Our technical innovations and strength and light weighting They were challenged in 2020 in ways we never could have imagined. Despite all the uncertainty, distractions and sacrifices, they performed well for our customers and shareholders And I couldn't be prouder.
Our employees accepted the challenge of wearing face masks all day, Constantly distancing themselves from one another, dealing with additional concerns about their own health and families' well-being in the midst of a pandemic, And they did this while continuing to deliver the high standards we set. In this context, We achieved our best ever safety rate performance in 2020. That's just phenomenal and illustrates Our deeply rooted safety culture. I also want to take a moment to reassure you that not even a pandemic such as we are experiencing Has altered our commitment to continued innovation and customer intimacy. All of our R and T sites are considered essential businesses And these teams kept up their work in our labs throughout 2020.
They've continued to advance new technologies that will lead to new and And our contract with Safran to include our HEXO IM7 Carbon Fiber for the GE9X engine That powers the 777X as well as positioning Hexcel for next generation engines being developed by Safran. This expansion also Our relationship with Safran spans more than 35 years and we are proud to partner with this key customer providing our high performance materials that support the strength, efficiency and reliability in their products. Now, I'll turn it over to Patrick Provide more details on the numbers.
Thank you, Nick. To briefly summarize the quarterly results, Our 2020 sales were negatively impacted by lower build rates and continued destocking as we expected and communicated last Quarter. Our aggressive cost reduction actions are starting to have an impact, which was demonstrated by sequential margin improvement compared to the Q3 2020. Further, we continue to generate free cash flow and deleverage with particularly strong and disciplined management of working capital. We have increased our liquidity by $230,000,000 at December 31, 2020, compared to the end of the Q1 of 2020.
As a reminder, the year over year comparisons are in constant currency. Our sales are denominated in dollars. However, our cost base is a mix of dollars, euros and British pounds As we have a significant manufacturing presence in Europe, as a result, when the dollar strengthens against the euro and the pound, our sales translate lower, While our costs also translate lower, leading to a net benefit to our margins, accordingly, a weak dollar as we are currently facing is a headwind our financial results. We hedge this currency exposure over a 10 quarter horizon to protect our operating income. Quarterly sales totaled $295,800,000 The sales decrease year over year reflects production rate decreases by our commercial aerospace customers in response to the pandemic, combined with continued commercial aerospace supply chain destocking.
Turning to our 3 markets. Commercial Aerospace represented approximately 43% of total 4th quarter sales. Commercial Aerospace sales of $126,700,000 decreased 67% compared to the Q4 of 2019 as destocking continues to impact our sales. We expect continued destocking in the Q1 of 2021 at a similar level to what we witnessed In the 3rd and 4th quarters of 2020, destocking is then forecast to wind down during the Q2 of 2021. We then expect to generally be at a steady state entering the second half of twenty twenty one with destocking largely behind us And realizing a substantial portion of the cost takeout benefits we have implemented and continue to work on.
Space and Defense represented 40% of the 4th quarter sales and totaled $119,700,000 An increase of 2.5% compared to the same period in 2019. U. S. Military rotorcraft was strong in the 4th quarter. We remain bullish for the outlook for our Space and Defense business globally.
Industrial comprised 17% of 4th quarter 2020 sales, industrial sales totaled $49,400,000 decreasing 31% compared to the Q4 of 2019 on weaker wind and recreation markets, partially offset by strengthening automotive. We closed our Windsor Colorado Wind Energy facility during the Q4 as previously disclosed. Recreation markets remained soft due to the pandemic, particularly for winter sports. In contrast, the Q4 of 2020 generated the strongest automotive sales since mid-twenty 19. On a consolidated basis, gross margin for the 4th quarter was 10.3% compared to 26 In the Q4 of 2019, as we discussed at our last earnings call, we continue to temporarily idle The sales mix, particularly lower sales of carbon fiber products, continued to be an earnings headwind.
Our view of forward demand continues to be consistent with what we communicated at our last earnings call in October With Q3 and Q4 2020 along with Q1 2021 being the low point of the pandemic downturn. We are staying close to our customers and maintaining our focus on operational excellence with process improvements and cost realignment actions across the business. 4th quarter selling, general and administrative expenses decreased 29.2% in constant Research and technology expenses decreased 21.4% in constant currency. We are an innovative material science company and continued research and technology funding is critical to our future growth. So we have been very selective with our cost reduction actions in this area of the business.
The other expense category reflected severance costs, primarily in Europe. We continue to target eliminating $150,000,000 of annualized overhead costs, including indirect labor. We expect that a significant portion of these cost add actions will be completed as we enter the second half of twenty twenty one. Adjusted operating loss in the 4th quarter totaled $6,100,000 Reflecting the lower sales volume and overhead headwinds combined with the negative sales mix, The year over year impact to exchange rates was negative by approximately 40 basis points. Now turning to our 2 segments.
The Composite Materials segment represented 76% of total sales and generated a negative 6.2% operating margin compared to 18.8 percent margin in the prior year period. The Engineered Products segment, which is comprised of our Structures and Engineered core businesses represented 24% of total sales and generated an 8.6% operating margin compared to 16.9% in the Q4 of 2019. The tax benefit for the Q4 year to date periods 2020 was $12,000,000 $61,000,000 respectively. The tax benefit was primarily due to losses incurred in various jurisdictions due to the impacts of COVID-nineteen. The 2020 tax benefit was also impacted by discrete tax items of $55,000,000 Primarily composed of a valuation allowance released in the Q3 of 2020, the pandemic and consequent mix of results Net cash provided by operating activities was $107,100,000 for the 4th quarter And $264,300,000 for 2020.
Working capital was a source of cash of $87,700,000 in the last quarter of the year. Capital expenditures on an accrual basis With $3,200,000 in the Q4 of 2020 compared to $30,000,000 for the prior year period in 2019, Accrual basis capital expenditures were $42,500,000 for the full 2020 year. We continue to tightly manage capital expenditures and look for innovative ways to optimize the flexibility of our existing to support new business opportunities in the future. Free cash flow for the Q4 of 2020 was $104,300,000 $213,700,000 for the year. We remain focused on generating and preserving cash as we deleverage.
We increased our liquidity by $108,000,000 as of December 31, 2020, Compared to September 30, 2020, further strengthening our balance sheet. Our total liquidity at the end of the 4th Quarter of 2020 was $875,000,000 consisting of $103,000,000 of cash And an undrawn revolver balance of $772,000,000 we have no near term debt maturities. Our revolver matures in 2024 and our 2 senior notes mature in 2025 and 2027 respectively. Our leverage as of December 31, 2020 is measured on a net debt basis and was 3 point 6 times compared to 3.25 times at September 30, 2020, which at that time was measured on a gross debt basis. The increase in the leverage ratio was due to the lower 12 month trailing EBITDA as net debt actually decreased $108,000,000 at December 31, 2020 compared to September 30, 2020.
We remain within covenant conditions. Our revolver facility has a leverage covenant based on a debt to trailing 12 month EBITDA. During the Q3 of 2020, we worked with our bank group to temporarily amend the covenant from a gross debt measurement to a net debt measurement and to increase the maximum allowable leverage for a period of 4 quarters. While we comfortably remained in compliance with the amended covenant at December 31, 2020, we recognize that the trailing 12 month EBITDA Based on our latest customer demand requirements, along with our belief that the aerospace supply chain destocking We'll now run through the Q2 of 2021 compared to our previous thinking that it would be largely completed by the end of 2020. We are currently in discussions with our bank group regarding our revolver facility and we are extremely confident that a mutually agreeable solution will be reached soon to ensure continued covenant compliance.
Our share repurchase program remains suspended and is also restricted by the previously referenced Revolver amendment. Our Board will continue to regularly evaluate capital allocation priorities. To summarize full year 2020 results, total sales decreased 36%, Adjusted operating income was $72,000,000 and adjusted diluted earnings per share were $0.25 We delivered $214,000,000 of free cash flow during the year, which we used to deleverage. As our earnings release states, we are not providing financial guidance at this time, but I would like to share the following. Our current market outlook, considering the strong pre pandemic Q1 of 2020, is that we expect 2021 annual sales to be lower than 2020.
We expect the aerospace chain de Selling, general and administrative expenses are forecast to be higher in the Q1 of 2021 compared to following quarters due to the timing of recording stock based compensation expenses. Some additional restructuring costs are anticipated primarily in the first half of twenty twenty one based on labor actions already initiated. Capital expenditures in 2021 will continue to be managed very tightly and are expected to be at a similar level to 2020. We expect to generate free cash flow in 2021 and further reduce debt levels. The tax assumption is more complicated than normal, but we expect the rate to be approximately 24% to 25% in 2021.
This change from prior rates is due to a mix of the jurisdictions where we expect to generate income. Over time, we expect the tax rate to return to pre pandemic levels. With that, let me turn the call back to Nick.
Thanks, Patrick. While it seems as though everything has changed, in reality nothing has changed about who we are as a company. We still have the broadest technology portfolio in our industry with leading positions on the world's largest aerospace programs with our Advanced Composites Materials. We continue to generate cash and further strengthen our balance sheet. We are taking this opportunity to strengthen our foundation, especially in the areas of cost control, Realigning the business for lower demand for a period of time and cash management to name a few.
The great job our team has done puts us in a position to return to growth with strong leverage once this pandemic is behind us. Clearly, there is still uncertainty. While air travel has increased from the 2020 lows, It remains weak, so the next couple of quarters will be challenging. However, we can see a path Forward for a return to stability and we view 2021 as a transition period that sits This year, one of our primary objectives is to continue to stay close to, aligned with, And responsive to our customers' needs. Global demand for advanced composites technology and products remain unrivaled in our industry.
The potential for a significant upturn in 2022 and beyond Continues to look promising. The actions we have taken and will continue to take will ensure that Hexcel emerges From this pandemic stronger than ever, strategically positioned for growth to support the future of aerodynamics and sustainability in the We continue to be disciplined and ready for the year ahead. Joanne, we'll now turn it back over
Your first question comes from the line of Gautam Khanna from Cowen. Your line is now open.
Yes, thanks. Good morning, guys. Thank you. I was wondering, can you elaborate on which programs you're seeing the destocking on Extending into Q2, was there like an incremental wave on the 87 or how did What changed, if you will, since last quarter? So, well, Gautam, you could imagine The programs that have the higher rates and higher ship set content and took the biggest Rate production reduction are the ones that impacted us most.
Clearly, the A350 It was leading that impact and the 787 on a percentage basis was very near to the same level. So The 7 37 MAX has certainly been an issue with respect to build rate reductions Impact then the A320neo did. So in general, I expect a little bit more 787 and wide body reduction as we go through Q1 and hopefully soon see some
Thanks guys.
Thank you, Gautam.
Your next question comes from the line of Mike Sison from Wells Fargo. Your line is now open.
Hey, guys. Good morning and glad you guys all sound healthy. Nick, just curious, Historically, Hexcel would see sales versus planned delivery somewhere between 6 months before the delivery. So Has there been a change in that? Is the spread a little bit longer or shorter coming out of the pandemic?
And are there any differences Between maybe narrow and wide body as you look forward and just want to see the timing as hopefully deliveries Improve in the second half and 'twenty two.
Yes, Mike. So again, when you look at our Two business segments on the Engineered Products versus the Composites. There tends to be a little different timing there. It has not changed over the Pandemic and I wouldn't expect it to change. I would point out that we believe there's an opportunity and we believe And we believe the supply chain recovery will amplify that stabilization of the rates And hopefully the increased rates later this year.
But as far as the lead times that we ship product to support aircraft build, Nothing really materially changes there from our perspective.
Great. Thank you.
Thank you, Mike.
Your next question comes from the line of Richard Sarfran from Ashafran from Seaport Global, your line is now open.
Thanks. Nick, Patrick, Kirk, good morning. How are you? Hope you're well. Good morning.
Good morning. So, Patrick, I know you mentioned, and Nick, this is for either one of you. In the past, you've talked about incremental margins and I understand things are getting better. You don't have Good visibility to how quickly things are getting better. But with the idea that destocking ends after 2Q and Given your remarks about a strong recovery in 2022, the cost takeout, etcetera, I thought you might discuss and elaborate on your prior remarks about how we should think about Incremental margins as volume returns and what they might look like relative to history.
So Richard, I'll take a first stab at that. So I'm not going to get into I suspect you understand that. I would tell you that the cost actions we're taking and How we're viewing the opportunity during this slowdown to get costs out and drive efficiencies It's living through the pandemic and even as we start to grow. So I'd also point out that we're very closely Monitoring and tracking our incremental leverage and we've actually built that into our metrics On how we're measuring our key performance and reporting out to our Board going forward.
Thanks.
Thank you, Richard.
Our next question comes from the line of Myles Walton from UBS. Your line is now open.
Thanks. Good morning.
Good morning. Hey, Pat. Good morning.
You Okay. The color on the top line pressure in 2021, do you think you can hold the reported adjusted margins, Operating margins versus 2020 or is there a little fade there as well year on year?
I think, I mean, as Nick was talking to already, in terms of operating margins, clearly, Q1 2020, you kind of put that But I think now with the cost coming out with a bit of stabilization certainly sort of Arriving in Q2 and going into the second half of the year, I mean, the top the margins are going to continue to be challenging. We have an overhead Headwinds and without some volume and we have the mix headwinds at the moment with the lower carbon fiber sales. But as we start to Pull through stronger carbon fiber sales, especially going into 2022, that is going to help us with incrementals and drivers. But for 2021, I don't see a further decrease in operating Income percentage margins, but I would be cautious about our ability to drive them up until we get some volume and a stronger mix Combined with the cost takeout.
Okay. And just a clarification, you mentioned the destock sort of stabilizes into 2Q. Does that imply Sort of flat revenue profile or just maybe what is stabilization 2Q versus 1Q mean?
Well, I think I mean, destocking will I mean, it's not going to be 0 as we go into the second half of the year and the 787 destocking is probably going to be the program that Comes late is just because of the timing of what's happened. I think we've had this double whammy, obviously, through These 3, as we call them, trough quarters, Q3, Q4 'twenty and Q1 'twenty one. I think as we come out of that and Destocking winds down. We're going to stabilize more closely to actual build rates. And so we should start to see a little bit of positive growth, not we're not getting carried away, but a little bit of growth in the revenue line.
And then as build rates start to increase as we get into the second half of the year, hopefully that will that trend will continue further. Okay. Thank you.
Your next question comes from the line of Pete Skibitski from Alembic Global. Your line is now open.
Hey, good morning, guys.
Good morning, Alex.
I guess I'll switch to working capital. You obviously took a lot out in 2020. Can you give us a sense of how 2021 looks, especially from kind of a first half, second half perspective?
So first half, second half, we're getting into details. I mean, our ability to take out working capital Very disciplined way and we took out appropriately a lot of working capital in 2020 in response to the downturn. Our inventory came down. Obviously, our receivables came down offset by our payables. As the business stabilizes, as you would imagine, Our working capital is going to kind of level off.
Now we will be very disciplined. We will maintain sort of the days on hand or the days payables, days Receivables as strongly as we can and we will limit any growth as business grows back. So You would expect perhaps more pressure on working capital in the second half of the year than the first year, but we will continue to be very And that's what I would differentiate, but you're not going to see another 2020 working capital adjustment.
Of course. Okay, thanks for the color.
Okay.
Your next question comes from the line of John McNulty from BMO Capital Markets. Your line is now open.
Yes, thanks for taking my question. Just with regard to the cost cutting initiatives that you've got in place, can you quantify how we should be thinking about The improvement in 'twenty one versus 'twenty from a cost perspective and just the timing of when that will sequence in, it sounds like it's more front half loaded, but A little any granularity you can give would be great.
Yes, sure. Good morning, Tom. I mean, we have started to get some of that Cost benefit in the Q4 and we will get more in the Q1. We continue to take cost out actions And they will continue through the year. But I think as we called out, I think in the script, in the narrative, By the middle of 2021, a decent portion of that cost saving will be in place, will be flowing through.
And so yes, that will help margins, it will help those incremental margins. And importantly, we need more volume, We need more carbon fiber to help the overall mix come through, but those three things combined should start to help push our margins back up in the second half of the year And then even more so as we go into 2022.
Got it. Thanks for the color.
Our next question comes from the line of Greg Konrad from Jefferies. Your line is now open.
Good morning. Good morning, Zach.
To follow-up on one of the questions before, I mean, you mentioned in the script sales are down in 2021 without providing guidance. But I mean, how are you thinking about H1 versus H2? And given the impact of destocking in H2 2020, is there any way to think about the magnitude of recovery Or growth in H2 or maybe quantify the impact of destocking to kind of help frame that tailwind as you get into the second half and into
So I'd start by saying first half of 2021 is going to be going against a comparable of a very strong quarter in 20 20. So you could imagine there's going to be a marked reduction in Q1 that will carry the first half. We don't see a recovery being a snapback. We think it's going to be gradual. We think The OEs are going to be disciplined in how they ramp their rates back up to work with the supply chain Because again, the rates will ramp up and compounded with that will be supply chain replenishment.
So we see a gradual increase going into the second half of the year. That's about all the color we're really prepared to provide at this time. Thank you. Thank you, Greg.
Your next question comes from the line of Michael Ciarmoli from Truist Securities. Your line is now open.
Hey, good morning guys. Thanks for taking my question. Maybe just to stay on what Greg was just asking. I mean, obviously, there's a lot of uncertainty out there, What's really preventing you from giving more granular guidance this year? I mean, we all know what Boeing and Airbus rates are going to be.
Presumably, You're closer to them. You don't have any aftermarket exposure, which is really short cycle. So the hesitancy, I mean, does that suggest The demand signals, the stated rates from Boeing and Airbus, you're not really confident there. I mean, I think we can all see the wide body Pressures. Maybe can you just kind of frame up maybe what the biggest unknowns are that's preventing you from giving a more detailed level projection?
Well, I'll start by saying we are absolutely intimate and connected with our Customers recognizing that it's very dynamic times. So when I step back and we step back and look at the uncertainties out there, You've got vaccinations happening at different rates all over the world. And I think everyone would say they're happening slower Than we had hoped and expected. So when exactly will the majority of the population receive vaccinations? And then Most likely, there will be a lag on when will the mass public and business feel confident to get back on planes, Provided that orders are reopened and they're allowed to fly and land without quarantining.
So I don't know anyone or I haven't read anything that clearly defines when those dates going to happen and it's evolving over time. So to stay connected to Airbus and Boeing and Safran and all of our customers, What we're focusing on is being responsive and being exactly aligned with respect to our working capital, with their needs, Recognizing that if they need to adjust upward, they will. If they need to adjust downward, they will. And at this point in time, we just do not have the clarity I feel confident that we can report a forecast that is meaningful.
No, that's fair. Maybe just a follow-up. Did Airbus' rates on the going to 47 per month catch you guys off guard or was that a factor?
So I haven't heard rate 47 coming off of Well,
I mean, yes, not going to rate 47, I mean slowing that down. Was that sort of a surprise for you
I view that as a disciplined approach in bringing the supply chain back on and I view that very positively, Ramping up 43 and 45 and evaluating for further rate increases going forward. So it wasn't a surprise.
Got it. Helpful. Thanks a lot guys.
Appreciate it. Thanks Michael.
Your next question comes from the line of Phil Gibbs from KeyBanc Capital, your line is now open.
Hey, good morning. Good morning, Phil. So your 150,000,000 So cost outs are on track. How much of that run rate have we realized exiting 2020? Just trying to gauge how much more we have left in the tank.
So, they're on track. I mean, we haven't put specific numbers to specific timeframes. I think we've sort of said it will be largely in place by the middle of this year. We undoubtedly had a portion A little bit even in Q3, more coming through Q4 and we'll see more in the next couple of quarters. I don't really want to start to try and get slice and dice specifically, but We continue to work on those cost pay counts.
The 150 continues to be the target we're working to. And by the middle of this year, A very large portion of that will be in play.
Okay. And then in the raw material environment, obviously, we've A lot of strange volatility this year in lumber and steel and iron ore and plastics and everything in between. How is the raw material environment for you all going? I know it's typically a pass through, you try to pass it through, What's the raw material environment looking like right now and how are you going to manage through it?
Yes. I mean, by and large, it's relatively steady. As we've said many times, we have some long term supply contracts and so that protects With a lot of the pricing, acrylonitrile, which we now hedge is the base raw material For our carbon fiber, there has been pressure on the propylene market that those prices have gone up compared to the middle of, say, 2020, but again, the impact on us is mitigated because of our hedging. So overall, I would say not too much of an impact, Phil.
So we shouldn't think about raw material volatility as a headwind in 'twenty one versus 'twenty?
Nothing major, no.
Okay. Thanks very much.
Your next question comes from the line of Noah Poponak from Goldman Sachs. Your line is now open.
Hi, good morning everyone.
Good morning. Good morning, Noah.
Just curious if you guys have any insight into what's going on with the 787 quality control issues. Obviously, it doesn't tie to you. It's a Boeing manufacturing issue. But just given that it's in composite structural components, I thought You might have more insight there than I do. And then, as they're building but not delivering airplanes, what does that mean For Hexcel, I mean, I know it kind of folds into the overall inventory destocking, but it would seem to be even more on that program.
So we have no more insight than you do on 787 manufacturing issues and or What's going on with fuselage? I will say I'm confident that Boeing have that under control and that That issue, if not already gone, will go away. With respect to inventory And what's going on at Owen with respect to build rates and winding down? 787 to Patrick's point, clearly Going down to rate 5 or at or around rate 5 is going to be some incremental headwind on supply chain adjustments for a quarter or 2. 7 37, it will be interesting to see the burn off of the inventory in stock and The ramp back up of the production from the very low rates they're running today.
But again, we're still optimistic that We'll start to see that in the second half of twenty twenty one.
Okay. In your other commercial aerospace revenue, Down about 60% and you specified in the release particularly business jet. The OEMs in aggregate there haven't Reduced production nearly that much, I don't think. Is that also seeing inventory destock or has that end market worsened?
That market certainly has seen some inventory destocking, especially in the 4th quarter. I think some of the questions around business jet and the size classes and how they'll rebound Remains to be seen, but we remain optimistic certainly for the small class, medium class in 2021 To show some recovery.
Okay. And Patrick, how should I expect 2021 free cash flow to compare to 2020?
I think I mean, I think I kind of directionally said it's going to be lower because we're not going to have the same working capital Tunitib, I mean, we're not guiding to a specific number, but I think that's the shape I would put on it.
Basically, just Think of it as kind of directionally flattish and then before working capital and then extract the working capital benefit.
More or less. More or less.
Okay.
Okay. Thanks so much.
Your next question comes from the line of David Strauss from Barclays. Your line is now open.
Thanks, Sabrina. Patrick, I know you highlighted the headwind from a weaker dollar in the quarter. How does that impact Going forward kind of where you hedge given that the dollar is depreciated a fair amount here?
Yes. I mean, so this is where the hedging does come into play. Again, I'm not going to get into specifics, but we don't see the same headwinds Going into 2021 versus 2020, so because of our hedging portfolio and what we have in place, It's going to be a lot more neutral in 2021. I know that that might sound ironic to your point given the slightly lower Sorry, the weaker dollar, but because of the hedges we have in place, year over year for us, the dollar should not be too much of a headwind.
Okay. And Nick, I guess thinking about 'twenty a little bit Beyond 2021 out to 2022, I know it's a ways out. But as we're building our models out and thinking about The aero business, at least as it relates to large commercial aircraft, when you expect to pretty much Be in line with delivery rates other than maybe on the MAX at that point in 2022?
Absolutely. I would expect that given we ship A fair amount prior to the aircraft build rates and I think the stability in the markets and the gradual increase, Our business will certainly have the capability and capacity to support that easily. So I think we'll be aligned. Again, I also am not underestimating some of the supply chain replenishment That will help the business going forward on a one time basis as the market starts to recover. Okay.
Thanks very much. Thanks, David.
Your next question comes from the line of Austin Mueller from Canaccord. Your line is now open.
Hi there. This is Austin on for Ken. Just to switch gears over to the defense business, can you talk about what the shipping rate is for the F-thirty 5 in the outlook for that program this year?
Unfortunately, we do not We have build rates or ship set content on our military programs simply because they're isolated And it's competitive information we don't share.
Okay. Well, just on a different point, for the defense business, are there any new program opportunities in the next few years that you're pursuing? Or how we think about the program mix for that business over the next few years? And are you pursuing anything in the space sector in
So I would say as the leading composite supplier in the Space and Defense Industry and the fact that our IM7 fiber is basically the benchmark. We're working on Multiple new programs, advanced programs, both manned and unmanned as we speak today. So, certainly would expect opportunities to continue to present themselves and us To continue to be a fiber of choice and have great content on those applications as we go forward.
Okay, got it. Thank you, guys. Your next question comes from the line of Hunter Keay from Wolfe Research. Your line is now open.
Hey, good morning, everybody. Thanks. Good morning. Good morning, Patrick. So in 2015, you guys were expecting $3,000,000,000 sales in 2020.
It's going to come in at half that. And this is a hard question, but as you think about the long term planning process in the next 5 years, do you see An ability to maybe get back to that $3,000,000,000 sales level at some point?
2015, when we clearly didn't predict the pandemic, we're continuing To work our strategic planning process, we're continuing to drive the innovation on materials and Processes are good. We're continuing to expand our portfolio as we've done with our technologies And we'll continue to evaluate organically as well as through M and A opportunities and collaboration. So I would answer that by, we don't have our crystal ball. We're working our strategic planning process Aggressively with the team. I like the pipeline we have.
I like the activities we have in place. But it unfortunately is a bit premature For us to make any judgments on when we'll deliver $3,000,000,000 or any respective number. I can assure you though I'm challenging the team and composites, advanced materials, Light weighting, sustainability, 0 emission aircraft, I'm excited With the opportunities and I'm even more excited with Hexcel's position and the efficiencies we're driving into the business. So We will hit that number. I just can't give you a date.
Okay, Nick. Thanks. And then just a quick clarification. Did you ever pause 787 shipsets?
We never paused 787 shipsets.